Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[subsandwiched]

The rookie draft rights should be won by pure luck. All teams have equal chance of winning the lottery - on draft day. This will end the cycle of BW and TF purposely landing the top picks and trading them to SMB/MVP teams after few seasons.

[Rodbi]

The longer format will force coaches to have to better manage players' minutes, especially those of imports and key local players. That way, there can be more chance of magic bunot and introduction of rookies and other young players, and there's less chance of being injury-riddled come playoff time.

Yeah, i hope that if ever such a format or something of similar variety would be applied, it would help promote less dependence on imports for offense. Even though it's kind of impossible at the current setting, there outliers naman in the local ranks who can really be the "faces" and capable enough to carry their respective teams.

[IPC]

Thought of this more than a year ago. What if the PBA just implemented a transfer system, like what's being done in the rest of the world? That way, teams can ask for a load of money if they need to move one of their star players. Although there are cases of player swaps, money is the primary consideration. Plus, buyout clauses could be incorporated in the contracts. Independent teams might benefit. Sellers will benefit from the money, as they can use it to pay players and build their training and development infrastructure.

For example, if TNT want to get Matthew Wright from Phoenix, they can just buy him for P10M or something. Or RoS might ask P6M-8M for Javee Mocon.

just how football leagues in Europe are doing it. during this transfer window, all teams from different leagues can inquire for the player.

applying this in basketball, for instance, a player like Terrence Romeo, during this window, can receive offers from teams like Alvark Tokyo, Chiba Jets or Ryukyu Golden Kings from BLG, Tainan Ghosthawks or Taiwan Beer Hero Bears in T1 League or Ginebra, Magnolia or MERALCO in the PBA. the team with the highest offer wins and shall pay San Miguel for Terrence Romeo's transfer. This is just an example.

Another option is to loan players to other teams, whether domestic or international. The loaned player can spend a specified period of time with the loanee team, after which the loaning team will get him back, and probably a much-improved version.

We can do that with underused young players, like say, James Laput, Kent Salado, Ken Holmqvist.

[Rodbi]

Another option is to loan players to other teams, whether domestic or international. The loaned player can spend a specified period of time with the loanee team, after which the loaning team will get him back, and probably a much-improved version.

We can do that with underused young players, like say, James Laput, Kent Salado, Ken Holmqvist.

I was thinking of this, too. Teams can loan their underutilized players to the current minor league clubs we have here in the PHL (MPBL, NBL, FilBasket, VisMin, etc.) for significant court burn and to get their motivation/confidence levels up all year. But I think there should be an age or tenure limit to this scheme.

[IPC]

I was thinking of this, too. Teams can loan their underutilized players to the current minor league clubs we have here in the PHL (MPBL, NBL, FilBasket, VisMin, etc.) for significant court burn and to get their motivation/confidence levels up all year. But I think there should be an age or tenure limit to this scheme.

Agreed on the age limit. In European football, it's usually young teenagers or players in their early twenties that are loaned so that they can get some burn and confidence, so that when they come back, they'll be much improved. Or when the improvement is apparent, the mother team can recall the loaned player.

[IPC]

I'm thinking, what if the Fil-foreigner limit is changed to FIBA-ineligible limit? 7 roster spots for FIBA-ineligibles, and of those spots, 2 can be used for imports whether Asian or otherwise. And these imports would still be subject to the 13'6" total height limit that Rodbi suggested.

Still, bahala ang team if they fill the 7 spots with FIBA-ineligible Fil-foreigners. This might strike a balance between making the league more competitive and giving the FIBA-eligibles more opportunity.

I think the PBA should start adjusting the Fil-foreign rule as well. Remove the FIBA-eligibles from the limit, and include the naturalized players. Thus, it's a FIBA-ineligible limit instead of a blanket Fil-foreigner limit. Imports fall under this limit as well.

[IPC]

Ok , so our proposal is what?

7 players - Fiba Eligible (including fil foreigners who are eligibles, and naturalized players)
5 players - Fiba Ineligible (including imports)

Something like that?

It's actually 5 FIBA-ineligibles for me. Included in this list are imports, naturalized players, and FIBA-ineligible Fil-foreigners.

On the other hand, no limit to homegrowns and FIBA-eligible Fil-foreigners.

[mathematicianrcg]

oh yes. agreed with that.

I only put 7, because if a team will max 5 fil ineligible spots.

[IPC]

I prefer this free agency signings over both annual drafts and trades.

I'd like to take this a step further. In lieu of a draft, how about we make every player 16 and up eligible as a free agent? That player might become eligible for a development contract, or a full-blown pro contract.

The development contract is sort of a version of a two-way. However, the G-League team is replaced by the kid's school, which makes it more similar to the B.League. The pro teams will have to make arrangement with collegiate and HS leagues to make this work, though. So under this contract, players can get called up by the mother team for a specified number of games set by the pro league. The contract's term is indefinite, so the mother team can wait until it decides that it's ready to promote the player to the team, and the promotion can even occur while the player's in his first year of college or just before HS graduation. This can serve as a useful tool for teams like NLEX, MERALCO, RoS, Phoenix, and Alaska.

[IPC]

I'd like to take this a step further. In lieu of a draft, how about we make every player 16 and up eligible as a free agent? That player might become eligible for a development contract, or a full-blown pro contract.

The development contract is sort of a version of a two-way. However, the G-League team is replaced by the kid's school, which makes it more similar to the B.League. The pro teams will have to make arrangement with collegiate and HS leagues to make this work, though. So under this contract, players can get called up by the mother team for a specified number of games set by the pro league. The contract's term is indefinite, so the mother team can wait until it decides that it's ready to promote the player to the team, and the promotion can even occur while the player's in his first year of college or just before HS graduation. This can serve as a useful tool for teams like NLEX, MERALCO, RoS, Phoenix, and Alaska.

This will work better with the transfer and loan system I proposed, and without the PBA's draft restrictions.

[mathematicianrcg]

Coach Chito Victolero was contacted by an international sports management firm about coaching in the Japan B.League.

He did confirm to Homer Sayson that he receive a call.

Source: Homer Sayson

Whoah. Coach Chito invited.

[mathematicianrcg]

LOL.

SNOW BADUA looks like not in favor of UFA

Fearing Mikey Williams will go to SMC after 7 yrs. And give even more imbalance

https://fb.watch/auHXR1pLuF/

[IPC]

LOL.

SNOW BADUA looks like not in favor of UFA

Fearing Mikey Williams will go to SMC after 7 yrs. And give even more imbalance

https://fb.watch/auHXR1pLuF/

This is a real danger of UFA. You risk losing the players you develop for nothing.

However, Mikey will be 37 by the time he's a UFA. Who's gonna take an older player?

[mathematicianrcg]

This is a real danger of UFA. You risk losing the players you develop for nothing.

However, Mikey will be 37 by the time he's a UFA. Who's gonna take an older player?

In Nba Logic now.

Nba Superstars Tends to give u at least 4-6 seasons to surround them with the right and enough talent.

If not, bye, it is time to enter FA market.

I am not sure how PBA will implement this UFA

[Rodbi]

I'd like to take this a step further. In lieu of a draft, how about we make every player 16 and up eligible as a free agent? That player might become eligible for a development contract, or a full-blown pro contract.

The development contract is sort of a version of a two-way. However, the G-League team is replaced by the kid's school, which makes it more similar to the B.League. The pro teams will have to make arrangement with collegiate and HS leagues to make this work, though. So under this contract, players can get called up by the mother team for a specified number of games set by the pro league. The contract's term is indefinite, so the mother team can wait until it decides that it's ready to promote the player to the team, and the promotion can even occur while the player's in his first year of college or just before HS graduation. This can serve as a useful tool for teams like NLEX, MERALCO, RoS, Phoenix, and Alaska.

I posted a similar concept more than a year ago. I called it PBA youth draft, eligible for 17-19 y.o.'s. Drafted youth players would be sent to PBA teams' respective affiliated universities/colleges for development (it's up to PBA and its teams and the universities/colleges to come up with an arrangement beneficial for both parties). I'd like to add this time, that the arrangement between the youth draftee and his mother club would be 5 years at max. Should the player exhibit advanced quality of play deserving of a call-up to the pros at age 21, his mother club may pick him up without any resistance from the affiliate school. Once a player is called up, he can no longer shuttle back and forth to the PBA and collegiate leagues, but must be offered a fresh 5-year pro contract, ensuring the PBA team's rights over the player in such span of time.

In contrast to the youth contract, players entered to a pro contract can be loaned out and can shuttle back and forth to the PBA and to the teams' partner minor league teams - much like how MLB deals with their draft picks. An initial call-up will trigger a player's PBA service time set up to 5 years. Players can also be traded to other PBA teams in this setup. Once the service time is up, the player becomes a free agent, with his mother club having the right over the other PBA teams to negotiate with him for a contract extension.