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  • Little by Little, Pba is embracing change and adaption. I know we kinda hate pba here in ibn. But I give credit when it will be due.

    Applying concepts from NBA is a good idea.

    Like this Free Agency thing. At least all teams can pick up potential talents in FA market. And who knows, maybe in the future, like in nba, some pba superstars will enter FA market too.

    Some Changes I would recommend in relation to FA.

    1. Salary Cap,Soft Cap, and Hard Cap - These are all important concepts in Nba FA period. So Great teams cant just sign every superstar. I know pba has salary cap now, but I think they should be stricter in thar aspect.

    2. Bird Rights - so that the team that (Player A) played for , for atleast 3 years, can have an advantage.

    And now, pba is planning or talking at least about expanding the market thru EASL and Excgange programs.

    This is gut feeling, but I think even the Pba Heads are reading, and knows the fans' demands in pba. Lol.

    But it is in their hands if they will do it

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    • The rich will become richer in this free agency. Teams willing to pay will get the top free agents.
      Never look too far ahead. You might stumble on a block right in front of you.

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      • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
        The rich will become richer in this free agency. Teams willing to pay will get the top free agents.
        I prefer this one than deceiving the public with dubious trades and annual drafts that don't serve the purpose.

        Free agency is a straight forward, no non-sense approach, imo. Just implement the anti-tampering rule and the salary cap, though.
        Last edited by ja.he; 01-08-2022, 03:51 AM.
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        • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
          The rich will become richer in this free agency. Teams willing to pay will get the top free agents.
          i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)

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          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
            I prefer this one than deceiving the public with dubious trades and annual drafts that don't serve the purpose.

            Free agent is a straight forward, no non-sense approach imo. Just implement the anti-tampering rule and the salary cap, though.
            The imports' salary should also be included in the salary cap, in my opinion.

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            • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
              i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)
              I like this idea. If everything would just be transparent, this policy can be executed properly and could serve as a means to deter talent-hoarding clubs from doing their thing that's clearly detrimental to the league's parity. Also, said tax must be shared equally among the non-violators of the luxury tax rule.

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              • Ricky Vargas hopes that naturalized players who played for Gilas can play in the PBA someday: http://tbti.me/s20dt8

                I think this could be an option. However, the NP should take one of the Fil-foreigner slots so that we can still have more room for locals.

                All our NPs in recent memory have been 7-foot centers (Douthit, Blatche, Kouame). I hope they can play in All-Filipino tournaments so that we can get used to seeing more 7-foot centers around. Our players might figure out a way to score over them, and our local taller bigs might (and, in my opinion, should) figure out a way to play alongside them.

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                • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                  I prefer this one than deceiving the public with dubious trades and annual drafts that don't serve the purpose.

                  Free agency is a straight forward, no non-sense approach, imo. Just implement the anti-tampering rule and the salary cap, though.
                  What salary cap? They are still deceiving the public pretending these players are paid within the cap.

                  Don’t get me wrong, I like that players get to be free in choosing the teams they wan’t to play for. But this further widens the gap of team strengths in terms of talent. We can only hope there are a lot of players with principle and integrity that’s willing to concede more money to play for the team they really like.
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                  • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                    i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)
                    Nice idea but I doubt this will ever happen. SMC and MVP groups for sure would not be amenable to this as it means spending a lot more. We all know these teams are the biggest spenders, particularly SMB and Ginebra.

                    An alternative is to have an NBL like tier system of talents to achieve some semblance of parity. Any idea though, that challenges the status quo and puts the top teams’ hoarding of talents at risk should be considered far fetched.
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                    • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                      i think the best way to address this would be through a luxury tax similar to the NBA. Yes bigger teams can overspend to keep their players with bird rights but they ought to pay a fine/penalty per peso they exceeded the cap. (i.e. if a team exceeds Php 10 million in the salary cap, they also pay the same amount as tax/penalty)
                      But they can use Bird rights with only the players that have stayed with them for 3 straight years or more, and those players should not leave their previous teams via free agency.

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                      • Whatever policy sports league makes, if there are rich teams and poor teams there will always be unbalanced. Players will choose a team that gives them maximum benefits (either by cash, kind, or opportunities) of their worth. Few teams in PBA are as rich as SMB and MVP. This will happen whatever fair policy they will implement.

                        Just open everything up like Euro leagues, B.League, so no more lying, no more pretending.

                        If you try to balance a league, your clipping free will, and choice of teams and players. If you give free will and choice, you will not see balance. It's just what it is.

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                        • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                          Whatever policy sports league makes, if there are rich teams and poor teams there will always be unbalanced. Players will choose a team that gives them maximum benefits (either by cash, kind, or opportunities) of their worth. Few teams in PBA are as rich as SMB and MVP. This will happen whatever fair policy they will implement.

                          Just open everything up like Euro leagues, B.League, so no more lying, no more pretending.

                          If you try to balance a league, your clipping free will, and choice of teams and players. If you give free will and choice, you will not see balance. It's just what it is.
                          This is where I agree with you and that's the reason why I favor this free agency more over than rookie drafts and trades. Big teams and their farm teams can no longer pretend about something that is not true. There are two problems however that I want to be resolved by the PBA - 1) salary cap and 2) tampering.
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                          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                            This is where I agree with you and that's the reason why I favor this free agency more over than rookie drafts and trades. Big teams and their farm teams can no longer pretend about something that is not true. There are two problems however that I want to be resolved by the PBA - 1) salary cap and 2) tampering.
                            There has to be a salary cap and restrictions. Otherwise the rich teams will just keep on stacking the good free agents even if they don't need them to cripple the poor teams. And that would just make the draft useless in the long run since teams can sign them up without any consequences if they can wait. It would make break the already imbalanced league

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                            • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                              There has to be a salary cap and restrictions. Otherwise the rich teams will just keep on stacking the good free agents even if they don't need them to cripple the poor teams. And that would just make the draft useless in the long run since teams can sign them up without any consequences if they can wait. It would make break the already imbalanced league
                              the problem here is that the league let one conglomerate to grow and lord over the matters of the league. now, there are two of them - much harder to implement transparency. free agency could have been easier to implement if each companies own only one team in the league. this is not the case in the PBA, wherein SMC owns 3 teams plus 2 farm teams and MVP owns 3 teams plus 1 farm team.
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                              • Though i see the merit of the PBA's unrestricted free agency which could somehow diminish the old farm team system and hopefully lead to transparency. I just hope that the PBA won't end up like the UAAP or NCAA, no salary caps, just the rich schools/rich boosters spending too much to form a great roster (well the empires are financing certain schools anyway)

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