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  • Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    right now RoS is grooming nambatac as their go-to guy but to be honest i dont see nambatac has that it factor to become a go-to guy. but i do hope they can get one in the next draft.
    Nambatac shoots too low a percentage, and is too inconsistent to be a reliable go-to guy. He's a spark plug or a support scorer at best. I have a similar issue with Mocon, although he could create for himself as well.

    Yeah, RoS should get one in the next draft. With the Fil-for restrictions being relaxed, and the limit increased, they can go for one of them as the future go-to guy.

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    • Originally posted by robert0326
      Gilas management should play their players in the PBA as a guest team, so that they will not do this.. I guess Tab didn't want play their players to PBA due to previous reasons.. Sana di nya dinamay yung issue nya on the players.. Those players deserve to play regularly.. sayang oras eh... Ang tagal ng bakante ng cadets natin.. I know PBA's rules and FIBA are different, but this is still basketball.. competitiveness is still there... playing against imports will benefit them.. I will definitely mad at Gilas management if they will not join other pocket tournaments next year.. time is running and 2023 WC is fast approaching.. tapos sisihan to the max pag months nalang before WC nalang sila mag practice..
      Gilas players already playing... in B.League hahaha.

      No need to play in PBA, just bad habits, will be bullied by vets and international-style does not translate.

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      • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
        I stand corrected, thanks bro. Furthermore, to avoid such ruckus in the future, PBA and other Asian leagues should be working with each other now to establish an organized system of player loaning, even if it's only a one-sided arrangement. If money is involved, then so be it.
        because Gilas draft is a sham. PBA teams who drafted them were paying CBC, Van Opstal, etc. their batch right? But the recent one with Heading, Navarro, Rangel, Tungcab only SBP (practically Metropacific group) is paying?

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        • Originally posted by noyce View Post
          because Gilas draft is a sham. PBA teams who drafted them were paying CBC, Van Opstal, etc. their batch right? But the recent one with Heading, Navarro, Rangel, Tungcab only SBP (practically Metropacific group) is paying?
          Well, for as long as it benefits the national team, I'm very fine with it. I don't care much about how the Gilas draft affects the PBA, to be honest.

          Gilas draftees Isaac Go, Jordan Heading & William Navarro have been serviceable for the national team.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • Originally posted by robert0326
            I mean the Gilas cadets back home, likes of Go, Kouame, Navarro, etc... (especially those from PBA draftees)...
            Those guys will just try their luck in other leagues besides B. League.

            The Ateneo men's basketball team is basically becoming a farm team to produce international quality players.

            Go, Kouame, Navarro, and even non-Ateneans like Tamayo or Balti already meet the minimum skillset to be considered by foreign clubs.

            Makes sense tbh. If I was a local 6'5 swingman, I wouldn't waste my time in the PBA unless I get to play my true position in any MVP-backed team.
            GILAS WISHLIST:
            6'8 Pingris

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            • Originally posted by robert0326
              Sayang si Navarro, because he will be end up in Northport, An alleged SMC farm team... he will be end up like Kevin Ferrer if he will play in the PBA...
              Or William Navarro could end up as a serviceable role player to any of SMC team. Remember, defense is Navarro's calling card & he has played under a very good system of coach Tab, hence he has a very good understanding of the game which could be another significant quality of his game. We know that all SMC teams - San Miguel, Ginebra & Magnolia are already loaded with talents, scorers, hence a role defensive player like Navarro may be perfect compliment to any of those teams. Besides, a good size wingman with decent defensive skills is a sought after commodity in basketball nowadays.

              With Kevin Ferrer, I really don't know what his calling card is. He is very inconsistent in offense. Is he a decent wing defender? Ferrer's career is going nowhere.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                Or William Navarro could end up as a serviceable role player to any of SMC team. Remember, defense is Navarro's calling card & he has played under a very good system of coach Tab, hence he has a very good understanding of the game which could be another significant quality of his game. We know that all SMC teams - San Miguel, Ginebra & Magnolia are already loaded with talents, scorers, hence a role defensive player like Navarro may be perfect compliment to any of those teams. Besides, a good size wingman with decent defensive skills is a sought after commodity in basketball nowadays.

                With Kevin Ferrer, I really don't know what his calling card is. He is very inconsistent in offense. Is he a decent wing defender? Ferrer's career is going nowhere.
                If Navarro becomes the taller version of Freddie Abuda on defense, and then expands his role to become a stretch 4 with a respectable outside shot (33-40%), that would already be a huge win for any of the 3 SMC clubs, and has MVP-backed Gilas to thank for.

                As for Ferrer, I'm kinda seeing Aldrech Ramos in him, although the latter has somewhat resurrected his PBA career with stellar showings last conference. Ferrer has to reinvent himself, get in better shape (he's gotten really big and slow), and focus on becoming a primary defensive stopper for his current or future team, something he was kind of good at when he was with BGSM.

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                • Originally posted by robert0326
                  With Navarro, depending on his coaches if how he will be use by his coach..if he is with smc, I want him at magnolia.. smb and ginebra are not patience on young guns.. atleast magnolia have confidence on their young players..
                  Yeah, of the three SMC teams, Mags is the best place for a young player to go to. They actually have a good track record of player development since Victolero took over. Sangalang became a reliable offensive option, Jio became a serviceable backup PG, and Dionisio is being groomed to be a serviceable 3/4. Laput will also benefit there. In addition, Victolero's system is the best-suited for international competition, especially defense.

                  Pero, Mags have plenty of role players like Navarro.

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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                    Chot going overboard with the small-ball, going with a 4-guard lineup midway through the 1st quarter.

                    Yeng is now going with his lineup with 5 perimeter players (PG, Trollano, Oftana, Semerad, McDaniels).
                    Originally posted by Rds View Post
                    Of course Chot loves his guards. But he doesnt have a big SF though. Rosario doesnt have the handles to be an SF. While NLEX has 6'3 6'4 and 6'5 guys who can.
                    Originally posted by IPC View Post
                    He has Glenn Khobuntin and MacKenzie Moore as wings. However, yeah, he loves his guards too much to play them at 3, opting to play them at 4 instead (although Khobuntin spent most of his time at 3).
                    Originally posted by Rds View Post
                    Yes forgot about Glenn. But IMO he is below the level of the NLEX SFs.
                    Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                    Should have kept one of Trollano or Semerad instead of trading both for Parks IMO.
                    Originally posted by Rds View Post
                    That's right. But it should have been worth it. But who would've known Parks was a whiner and would opt out after a season. Similar to SMB, they should target a big SF in the next draft.
                    Almost every contender is in need of a big SF (sans the wing import). Especially TNT, SMB, and Ginebra, who employ 3-guard lineups as their best lineups, and are a bit thin in that position. Even other playoff teams like MERALCO and Alaska are in serious need in that position.

                    Magnolia, NLEX, NorthPort, RoS, Phoenix, and TerraFirma, on the other hand, have plenty of big wings and/or versatile forwards, small-ball fours. Hope we can see that style contend.

                    This coming draft might see an increase in 6'4"-6'5" wings or combo forwards.

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                    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                      Almost every contender is in need of a big SF (sans the wing import). Especially TNT, SMB, and Ginebra, who employ 3-guard lineups as their best lineups, and are a bit thin in that position. Even other playoff teams like MERALCO and Alaska are in serious need in that position.

                      Magnolia, NLEX, NorthPort, RoS, Phoenix, and TerraFirma, on the other hand, have plenty of big wings and/or versatile forwards, small-ball fours. Hope we can see that style contend.

                      This coming draft might see an increase in 6'4"-6'5" wings or combo forwards.
                      Agree with this. The talent of this upcoming batch will change the landscape of the PBA. I just hope the 3 guard teams indeed use big SFs and not just convert them to PFs.

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                        Almost every contender is in need of a big SF (sans the wing import). Especially TNT, SMB, and Ginebra, who employ 3-guard lineups as their best lineups, and are a bit thin in that position. Even other playoff teams like MERALCO and Alaska are in serious need in that position.

                        Magnolia, NLEX, NorthPort, RoS, Phoenix, and TerraFirma, on the other hand, have plenty of big wings and/or versatile forwards, small-ball fours. Hope we can see that style contend.

                        This coming draft might see an increase in 6'4"-6'5" wings or combo forwards.
                        A bit of a concern is that medyo overcrowded yung forward positions ng Phoenix, specially if Sean Anthony comes back from injury. Imagine Perkins, Anthony, Manganti, Camacho, Demusis, sharing the minutes at the 3 & 4 spots. Di ko na nga binilang si Matt Wright who also plays at the 3 spot most of the time.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                          Agree with this. The talent of this upcoming batch will change the landscape of the PBA. I just hope the 3 guard teams indeed use big SFs and not just convert them to PFs.
                          I'd said this before, but the only way tall wings will take over at the 3 and eliminate the 3-guard lineups (where the 3rd guard is 6'2"-6'3") is if a 6'5"+ wing flat out dominates the matchup at the 3 against the 3-guard lineups, and his team wins because of it. I ask myself, what wing can have that kind of impact on a team? We'll need a 6'5"+ version of Parks or Abueva.

                          I hope Malonzo can change the game at the 3-spot, and dominates that position.

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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                            A bit of a concern is that medyo overcrowded yung forward positions ng Phoenix, specially if Sean Anthony comes back from injury. Imagine Perkins, Anthony, Manganti, Camacho, Demusis, sharing the minutes at the 3 & 4 spots. Not counting Matt Wright who also plays at the 3 spot most of the time.
                            I think Topex has a temporary solution, which is to play Perkins at the 5. But I think sooner or later, Phoenix will have to trade to a team in desperate need of a wing or at least a combo forward. They can trade one of the wings for either assets (picks or prospects) or maybe bigs, or even another impactful star for them to be able to compete.

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                            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                              A bit of a concern is that medyo overcrowded yung forward positions ng Phoenix, specially if Sean Anthony comes back from injury. Imagine Perkins, Anthony, Manganti, Camacho, Demusis, sharing the minutes at the 3 & 4 spots. Di ko na nga binilang si Matt Wright who also plays at the 3 spot most of the time.
                              PHX should unload through a trade at least 1 of these forwards you mentioned and get a bigman in exchange.

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                              • ^ ^ ^ ^

                                I hope 1 among Manganti, Demusis or Camacho goes to Meralco. I think any of those players mentioned would thrive in Meralco.
                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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