Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[IPC]

I believe that this is the time that PBA should fuse commissioner's and governor's cup. Just make the import-laced conference reinforced by two imports with aggregate height of 410 cm.

That allows for a 7-footer and a 6'5" import, which will fill the 5 and 3 positions, respectively, although the 6'5" player can play as a small-ball 4. This could help our teams in competing for the EASL.

The problem may lie, however, when trying to developing bigs, and even small-ball fours, which are essentially wings. Theoretically, when the imports take the 3 and 5 positions, that leaves the 4 spot open. However, what if your best lineup consists of the imports manning both 4 and 5 spots? That will deprive our local bigs of an opportunity to develop at even the 4 spot. And as for our tall 3/4 players, what if the team's best lineup consists of three guards and the two imports up front?

[reamily]

I believe someone like Chris Tiu, Charles Tiu or Jai Reyes are fit to become the replacement of Willie Marcial. Millenials should be given the chance to run the league and see what will happen from there. Millenials can perfectly echo the sentiments of the younger generations (Millenials and the Gen Z's) towards the league.

The problem is pba board of governors are boomers especially the power brokers...mvp, vargas, rsa..Gen xers like Charlie Cuna wouldnt touch commissioner ship as it is career suicidal move, his fellow Genxers Noli Eala, you knew what happened to him. Chualay just follow RSA orders to the bone, Vince Hizon and Danny Seigle are long shots.


Ginebra is a basketball brand that doesnt need a city....But thinking you can fanboy thelakers even if youre not from los angeles, Bulls for Chicago, so you can still cheer for purefoods and at the same time gain new fans from the folks who like to cheer for their city..Its now a marketing startegy if you lean on the team brand or the city brans like for example Cebu where you emhasize more on being the "cebuano's" team in the pba..

[ja.he]

The problem is pba board of governors are boomers especially the power brokers...mvp, vargas, rsa..Gen xers like Charlie Cuna wouldnt touch commissioner ship as it is career suicidal move, his fellow Genxers Noli Eala, you knew what happened to him. Chualay just follow RSA orders to the bone, Vince Hizon and Danny Seigle are long shots.


Ginebra is a basketball brand that doesnt need a city....But thinking you can fanboy thelakers even if youre not from los angeles, Bulls for Chicago, so you can still cheer for purefoods and at the same time gain new fans from the folks who like to cheer for their city..Its now a marketing startegy if you lean on the team brand or the city brans like for example Cebu where you emhasize more on being the "cebuano's" team in the pba..

Well, imo, millenials can be more fierced and will impose more challenge than Gen X'ers. The world is changing and basketball world is no exemption to that. Millenials and Gen Z's witnessed it to the greatest extent.

Actually, it is better suited for less popular but independent teams like Alaska, ROS and Phoenix. They deserve to have a built-in fanbase.

[hmbopbaduwap]

PBA given clearance to play with spectators by Pasay LGU, games at the MOA arena will most likely held in January

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/p...ef=home_feed_1

PBA games in Pasay with fans will have to wait as the Mall of Asia Arena will host the MPBL Invitational starting on Saturday until December 23 in a competition that has also been opened to spectators.

Cuneta Astrodome is another venue in Pasay, but it was gutted by fire recently, making it unusable for games to be held there.

Marcial though is hopeful that the return of spectators in PBA arenas will come sooner than later as the league now waits for the clearance from the Quezon City government which could be given as early as next week.

The Smart-Araneta Coliseum has already indicated its desire to stage the PBA games at the venue, but the league needs the required go-signal from the LGU.

Despite the clearance from Pasay City and the impending go-signal from Quezon City, Marcial said the league will limit the number of spectators that will enter the venue.

“Ang MOA, ang papapasukin lang nila, lower box. So mga 1,200 lang kasama na tayo [teams, league staff, production, media]… Ang Araneta, pumapayag ata sila ng upper box pero walang gallery. Ang Araneta kaya ng 20,000, ngayon 4,000 na lang,” said Marcial.

Marcial said the league and the venue will be implementing protocols such as social distancing and the strict wearing of masks.

“Ang Araneta, may marshals sila na kapag may naghubad ng mask, pipinahan. May ordinansa sila na magbabayad ka,” said Marcial.

[CoJ]

Well, imo, millenials can be more fierced and will challenge than Gen X'ers. The world is challenging and basketball world is no exemption to that. Millenials and Gen Z's witnessed it to the greatest extent.

Actually, it is better suited for less popular but independent teams like Alaska, ROS and Phoenix. They deserve to have a built-in fanbase.

too bad the boomers are in-charge of the PBA, Gen X also did a bad job in managing a league (ehem duremdes),millennials, despite the flack that they are getting can infuse new ideas to Philippine basketball

[hmbopbaduwap]

https://twitter.com/reubensports/sta...RDRNy354Q&s=19

Reuben Terrado
@reubensports
PBA commissioner Willie Marcial announces that the league will return to the Araneta Coliseum on Wednesday with fans @spinph

Reuben Terrado
@reubensports
All games next week - from Wednesday to Sunday - will be played at the Araneta Coliseum with fans, according to PBA commissioner Willie Marcial @spinph

https://mobile.twitter.com/reubenspo...80312022634500

Reuben Terrado
@reubensports
The PBA games at the Araneta Coliseum will still be on limited capacity as part of the safety protocols
@spinph

Reuben Terrado
@reubensports
PBA commissioner Willie Marcial: Fans must be fully vaccinated. Before entry at the Big Dome, fans must present vaccination card and government ID
@spinph

[digitalsuperman]

PBA given clearance to play with spectators by Pasay LGU, games at the MOA arena will most likely held in January

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/p...ef=home_feed_1

PBA games in Pasay with fans will have to wait as the Mall of Asia Arena will host the MPBL Invitational starting on Saturday until December 23 in a competition that has also been opened to spectators.

Cuneta Astrodome is another venue in Pasay, but it was gutted by fire recently, making it unusable for games to be held there.

Marcial though is hopeful that the return of spectators in PBA arenas will come sooner than later as the league now waits for the clearance from the Quezon City government which could be given as early as next week.

The Smart-Araneta Coliseum has already indicated its desire to stage the PBA games at the venue, but the league needs the required go-signal from the LGU.

Despite the clearance from Pasay City and the impending go-signal from Quezon City, Marcial said the league will limit the number of spectators that will enter the venue.

“Ang MOA, ang papapasukin lang nila, lower box. So mga 1,200 lang kasama na tayo [teams, league staff, production, media]… Ang Araneta, pumapayag ata sila ng upper box pero walang gallery. Ang Araneta kaya ng 20,000, ngayon 4,000 na lang,” said Marcial.

Marcial said the league and the venue will be implementing protocols such as social distancing and the strict wearing of masks.

“Ang Araneta, may marshals sila na kapag may naghubad ng mask, pipinahan. May ordinansa sila na magbabayad ka,” said Marcial.

still good news. a glimpse of normalsy.

[IPC]

Haven't caught up with PBA action since 2014.

Which team do you guys think has the potential to be a strong club who can challenge powerhouses in East Asian and West Asian leagues?

This is assuming they have two imports of unlimited height and their lineup has legit size/skill for the international game.

I think in terms of talent and personnel in the lineup, TNT and Ginebra. TNT just needs wing imports, as their bigman rotation is already good-sized and versatile enough. As for Ginebra, they just need wings, they already have a good bigman rotation, and they can go small if needed. Kaso lang, both teams have a tendency to roll out three-guard lineups.

A dark horse is Magnolia, who not only probably has the personnel, but also the tactics, especially defensively. They'll give the Japs and Koreans a hard time with their physicality and discipline on that end. Their imports will address any size concerns in the forward and/or bigman positions.

[IPC]

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Phoenix is obviously loaded at the forward positions. I almost forgot that Sean Athony is also at Phoenix now. Yung problema lang talaga is the playing time that some of these Phoenix forwards might struggle to get.

So it seems slowly but surely nagpo proliferate narin yung mga good size combo forwards & natural small forwards in the PBA. In next year's PBA rookie draft, we'll probably be seeing guys like Jeremiah Gray & Brandon Rosser. Those are also good size small forwards or combo forwards waiting in the wings. Though some of these forwards are not FIBA eligible, their mere presence in the PBA elevates the level of competition & trains the FIBA-eligible forwards on how to match up with good size small forwards & combo forwards in the FIBA game.

Yeah, we've been seeing plenty of good sized natural SFs, or at least combo forwards who can play the 3 position, or at least as small-ball fours. The problem is, most of these guys are not exactly that used at the 3, as that spot is taken by off-guards who are undersized for that position internationally. Plus, three-guard lineups are often the best lineups from 1 to 3. Ginebra, San Miguel, and TNT have seen success trotting out these lineups.

We'll need not also size, but also quality out of the natural SFs to kill off these 3-guard lineups, for lack of a better term.

[Rds]

Yeah, we've been seeing plenty of good sized natural SFs, or at least combo forwards who can play the 3 position, or at least as small-ball fours. The problem is, most of these guys are not exactly that used at the 3, as that spot is taken by off-guards who are undersized for that position internationally. Plus, three-guard lineups are often the best lineups from 1 to 3. Ginebra, San Miguel, and TNT have seen success trotting out these lineups.

We'll need not also size, but also quality out of the natural SFs to kill off these 3-guard lineups, for lack of a better term.

The big SFs are usually the Filfors. Its good though our homegrowns are catching up now. Trollano, Mocon and Oftana are the bigger effective homegrown SFs Im seeing now. Trollano is even being used as an SG at times if I read the posts in IBN correctly.

[IPC]

Sorry Leo Austria, you only looked good coaching a super souped up team which enjoyed a decisive edge in talent over everybody in the pack. But when such decisive edge in talent somewhat diminished, you were obviously exposed as just nothing more than an averaged coach in the PBA.

They still got a super team. But it's always fun to see super teams lose. Hope they got embarrassed again and we see some major changes.

Knowing SMC though they'll probably just farm some more talents

This talk on superteams got me thinking on how the top teams win their championships. Do they win through advancement in tactics, or just sheer talent? You can win through advancement in tactics, but you need talent to sustain it.

I think, and I think a lot of you may agree, that wins through advancement in tactics are better for Philippine basketball than winning through just getting talent, like how SMB won theirs. That's why I think this TNT-Mags series is a breath of fresh air, kasi both Victolero and Chot are good tacticians, with both finding common ground on defense. TNT just had an edge in firepower, especially with Mikey Williams.

[IPC]

The big SFs are usually the Filfors. Its good though our homegrowns are catching up now. Trollano, Mocon and Oftana are the bigger effective homegrown SFs Im seeing now. Trollano is even being used as an SG at times if I read the posts in IBN correctly.

Yeah, Trollano has been used as an SG for NLEX. So has Mocon for RoS. I do hope they stay at the 2-spot and bigger SFs take over, since Trollano is 6'3" and Mocon is 6'2". Even if the big SFs are Fil-foreigners.

Still, yeah, we're already producing more homegrown 6'4"-6'5" SFs. Hope they can be good enough to play that position full-time for PBA teams.

[IPC]

Defensively, SMB sucks this conference.. As i said before, SMB rather need a defensive type of import ala Freeman or Blakely rather than Brown... SMB will be lucky to be in semis this conference...

That's why the Vic Manuel trade is not a good one for SMB. I mean, Arwind fit them better, especially on that end. After SMB traded Arwind, they could have used an import who could cover for everyone defensively. And predictably, SMB went with their tried and tested formula of 'overwhelm with sheer firepower.'

SMB's 1-2 in their first 3. I think they have time to jell, though, and turn this bad start around.

Phoenix ultimately won the trade since they got Sean Manganti - a 6'4 versatile swingman. In addition to that, they got also Simon Camacho - another 6'4 versatile forward. si Dawn Ochea na lang ang kulang, Phoenix will complete Adamson's versatile forward trio.

Phoenix will build its team on small ball and versatility, similar to how Topex built his Lyceum teams. Hope they can teach Camacho to shoot. He already has length, athleticism, and some semblance of a handle.

Is Ochea of the same mold, 6'4" forward with the ability to guard and play the perimeter? If so, then Adamson really has a penchant for development of those kinds of forwards.

[ja.he]

Phoenix will build its team on small ball and versatility, similar to how Topex built his Lyceum teams. Hope they can teach Camacho to shoot. He already has length, athleticism, and some semblance of a handle.

Is Ochea of the same mold, 6'4" forward with the ability to guard and play the perimeter? If so, then Adamson really has a penchant for development of those kinds of forwards.

Is Ochea of the same mold, 6'4" forward with the ability to guard and play the perimeter?

- As far as I remember, yes, he was a versatile forward during Adamson stint.

"If so, then Adamson really has a penchant for development of those kinds of forwards".

- during the time of both coach leo austria and franz pumaren, Adamson produced lots of tall guards and versatile forwards. during leo austria's time, Adamson produced patrick cabahug, alex nuyles, janus lozada, jansen rios and will stinnett. on the other hand, during franz pumaren's time, Adamson had dawn ochea, sean manganti, simon camacho, jaydee tungcab (moved to up), kurt lojera (moved to dlsu) and tyrus hill (moved to dlsu). we never had a dominant big. papi sarr and lenda douanga were good rim protectors and decent rebounders but were not offensive force inside.

[IPC]

Baltazar will be at Gilas draft then either Gray or McKinney at regular draft... MVP will push another Gilas draft to have another talent aside getting regular draftee...

Do U think PBA would still love the idea of a Gilas draft considering what happened with Jordan Heading?

Yeah, there's a loophole in the Gilas draft rules, that's why (in my opinion) Heading could legally sign with a Taiwanese team. The PBA wouldn't want to set that as a precedent.

But with the stupid rules the PBA has been making, this bad faith could be karma. HAHAHAHAHAHA.