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  • Originally posted by zairex View Post
    Well in the defense of PBA monickers, NBA has Heat, Nets which I don't know exactly what they are. B. League has, Happinets, Tokyo Z Friends.

    "NBA has Heat, Nets which I don't know exactly what they are"

    - ?????

    "B. League has, Happinets, Tokyo Z Friends."

    - That's Earth Friends Z. Japanese basketball teams are known to name their teams some weird but catchy-to-the-ears monickers. Even teams in KBL have weird by catchy monickers.

    BTW, monickers are not the point here. i thought we are talking about how the viewership of PBA is slowly dwindling. one of the reasons why PBA-model is unstable is because of how teams are formed. product-based team has no sense of attachment to the fans compared to a city-based or school-based team.

    if I were to chose to watch a game between TNT (the team I currently follow in the PBA) and Adamson (the school where I came from), ofcourse I will choose to watch the latter because I am an alumnus there. Sense of belongingness is important.
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    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
      Great points bro. Perhaps the only PBA team that remains very popular despite the departure of certain personalities who are very much identified with the team (Sonny Jaworski of course the most popular figure of the team of all time) is Ginebra.
      other less popular teams should try to make their teams provincial-based kahit calabarzon or central luzon-based teams sila.
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      • More out-of-town games say, around 40% of total elimination games even if it's probably going to cost more in logistics and boarding? Provinces' (those considerably distant from the NCR) qualified venues sure are smaller in capacity compared to NCR's, thus can be easily filled up if ticket prices are reasonable enough. Having those venues jampacked and very loud on TV every out-of-town gameday can create the illusion that PBA is again becoming an exciting league. When the hype's on again, I think that is when PBA marketing people should start focusing and channeling their energy on to come up with new gimmicks to create more public interest, or at least find a way to revive the rivalry aspect not just between opposing teams, but also on players and coaches.

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        • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
          More out-of-town games say, around 40% of total elimination games even if it's probably going to cost more in logistics and boarding? Provinces' (those considerably distant from the NCR) qualified venues sure are smaller in capacity compared to NCR's, thus can be easily filled up if ticket prices are reasonable enough. Having those venues jampacked and very loud on TV every out-of-town gameday can create the illusion that PBA is again becoming an exciting league. When the hype's on again, I think that is when PBA marketing people should start focusing and channeling their energy on to come up with new gimmicks to create more public interest, or at least find a way to revive the rivalry aspect not just between opposing teams, but also on players and coaches.
          they can fill up a provincial arena of 2,000-5,000 seating capacity. imo, they not should expect people from metro manila to fill MOA and the Big Dome and watch every games. that's 16,000 to 20,000 seating capacity. that's too much to ask, tbh.
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          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
            "NBA has Heat, Nets which I don't know exactly what they are"

            - ?????

            "B. League has, Happinets, Tokyo Z Friends."

            - That's Earth Friends Z. Japanese basketball teams are known to name their teams some weird but catchy-to-the-ears monickers. Even teams in KBL have weird by catchy monickers.

            BTW, monickers are not the point here. i thought we are talking about how the viewership of PBA is slowly dwindling. one of the reasons why PBA-model is unstable is because of how teams are formed. product-based team has no sense of attachment to the fans compare to a city-based or school-based team.

            if I were to chose to watch a game between TNT (the team I currently follow in the PBA) and Adamson (the school where I came from), ofcourse I will choose to watch the latter because I am an alumnus there. Sense of belongingness is important.
            Yeah, reaching out to the fans is important. Jawo took a lot of time for the fans. I don't see many PBA teams trying to expand their fanbase.

            As to the monickers, OK lang naman siguro ang products as an influence. I mean, the name for the Bulls was partly because Chicago had a meatpacking industry.

            But I digress. Basta, connection with the fans is important. I see more of that in the UAAP and NCAA than in the PBA. I remember when the UP team went around during the 2018 Lantern Parade, and I was able to take pictures with Bright, Javi, Jun Manzo, and Diego Dario, and I assume other fans took pictures too. Point is, they connected with the fans with that, and other stuff too.

            Another thing. Changing the system, how it is run, that would help too. Ample cooperation during FIBA tournaments, and some transparency on trades. I mean, teams are free to be stupid, but we'll need to have a basis for balanced trades.

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            • plus merchandise

              sell some shirts, jerseys, cap, towel, mask, fan.. include it in 100 m per season.. PBA didnt capitalize that during the pandemic.. promotion of the games like how nbl, b-league does.. social media activity is not the same as those said leagues..
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              • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                plus merchandise

                sell some shirts, jerseys, cap, towel, mask, fan.. include it in 100 m per season.. PBA didnt capitalize that during the pandemic.. promotion of the games like how nbl, b-league does.. social media activity is not the same as those said leagues..
                PBA used to have collectible cards of players. As to shirts, I even bought the shirt of Jason Castro when me and my father (a Ginebra fan) watched the game some years ago. what happened to these kinds of stuffs?
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                • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                  plus merchandise

                  sell some shirts, jerseys, cap, towel, mask, fan.. include it in 100 m per season.. PBA didnt capitalize that during the pandemic.. promotion of the games like how nbl, b-league does.. social media activity is not the same as those said leagues..
                  Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                  PBA used to have collectible cards of players. As to shirts, I even bought the shirt of Jason Castro when me and my father (a Ginebra fan) watched the game some years ago. what happened to these kinds of stuffs?
                  Sad that counterfeit jerseys of PBA players/teams (and Gilas) are worn by Pinoys around the country, PBA could have marketed jerseys and other merchandise at a competitive price, and to think the league is very strict regarding their intellectual property.

                  they could learn from the UAAP/NCAA and Universidad (the apparel company), they sell original UAAP jerseys at a very low price (around 300-500 pesos) and other items such as lanyards, jackets etc

                  edit: I use to collect those PBA cards released by Upper Deck back in the late 90s-early 2000s

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                  • Also the league should revert to classic jersey designs, it has become too cartoonish. I prefer the old SMB, Alaska jerseys coz its more relatable. The design should be kept simple and just show the main brand logo. The current ones are just too exaggerated and ugly IMO.

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                    • Originally posted by subsandwiched View Post
                      Also the league should revert to classic jersey designs, it has become too cartoonish. I prefer the old SMB, Alaska jerseys coz its more relatable. The design should be kept simple and just show the main brand logo. The current ones are just too exaggerated and ugly IMO.
                      I see your point. Actually, most leagues are like that - they just put the brand logo of their team or sponsor. that's why TNT used to have to a good-looking jersey.



                      Northport, so far, has the nicest looking jersey out there.



                      Purefoords' jersey:

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                      • Originally posted by interxavierxxx View Post
                        7. Instead of Companies, teams should represent locations with the sponsor being attached to the clubs like Antipolo+SMC or QC+TNT.

                        Smart Quezon City
                        Meralco Pasig
                        NLEX Bulacan
                        Northport Manila
                        Phoenix Davao

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                        • Originally posted by subsandwiched View Post
                          Smart Quezon City
                          Meralco Pasig
                          NLEX Bulacan
                          Northport Manila
                          I believe that lesser teams in the PBA (ROS, Alaska, Phoenix and NLEX) should adopt a province as their home.

                          Pampanga NLEX Road Warriors
                          Laguna Alaska Aces
                          Rizal Phoenix Fuel Masters
                          Batangas ROS Elasto Painters

                          I prefer places in NCR, CALABARZON, Central Luzon, Pangasinan, and Benguet if we go regional since these places are all connected by NLEX, CavitEx, SCTEX, TPLEX and SLEX.
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                          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                            I believe that lesser teams in the PBA (ROS, Alaska, Phoenix and NLEX) should adopt a province as their home.

                            Pampanga NLEX Road Warriors
                            Laguna Alaska Aces
                            Rizal Phoenix Fuel Masters
                            Batangas ROS Elasto Painters

                            I prefer places in NCR, CALABARZON, Central Luzon, Pangasinan, and Benguet if we go regional since these places are all connected by NLEX, CavitEx, SCTEX, TPLEX and SLEX.


                            Very doable. With a right commissioner and BODs.

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                            • Originally posted by subsandwiched View Post
                              Very doable. With a right commissioner and BODs.
                              I believe someone like Chris Tiu, Charles Tiu or Jai Reyes are fit to become the replacement of Willie Marcial. Millenials should be given the chance to run the league and see what will happen from there. Millenials can perfectly echo the sentiments of the younger generations (Millenials and the Gen Z's) towards the league.
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                              • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                                Exactly pre-pandemic 5K average fans in a 20K capacity arena. If I am not mistaken, revenue from TV ads goes to TV5. I just don't know about revenues from YT or Facebook.

                                Does PBA teams have a share in TV rights deals, ticket revenues and sponsorships? That's how all sports club in the world make money.

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