Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[Rodbi]

In view of this, they better start getting bigs, especially given the fact that Japeth and JDV are old, and CStan is also aging, and there's a rumor that he might leave after this coming conference. That leaves just Caperal as their reliable big, and he's under 30.

Shame that they let go of Ken Holmqvist (he's not in the roster list). He could have been useful, even as a backup.

Oh, well, some bigman prospects are worth looking at in the draft. Christian Fajarito, Christian Buñag, Brandon Rosser, Brandon Bates. Sige, there's Justin Arana and Jeo Ambohot, but I'd rather have them develop at the 4, and if possible, 3.

Brandon Rosser would be the most logical choice for BGSM and probably the best option among the names you mentioned as replacement for CStand should he decide to not re-sign. He's already too ripe for the PBA anyways.

Fajarito would also be a good option for PF/small-ball C with his athleticism and for being a strong finisher underneath the rim. Kinda reminds me also of RDO, yung outside shooting na lang ang kulang.

Bates upside is his height and aggression on the defensive end. He would be an additional rim protector for BGSM along with Japhet.

[IPC]

In view of this, they better start getting bigs, especially given the fact that Japeth and JDV are old, and CStan is also aging, and there's a rumor that he might leave after this coming conference. That leaves just Caperal as their reliable big, and he's under 30.

Shame that they let go of Ken Holmqvist (he's not in the roster list). He could have been useful, even as a backup.

Oh, well, some bigman prospects are worth looking at in the draft. Christian Fajarito, Christian Buñag, Brandon Rosser, Brandon Bates. Sige, there's Justin Arana and Jeo Ambohot, but I'd rather have them develop at the 4, and if possible, 3.

Brandon Rosser would be the most logical choice for BGSM and probably the best option among the names you mentioned as replacement for CStand should he decide to not re-sign. He's already too ripe for the PBA anyways.

Fajarito would also be a good option for PF/small-ball C with his athleticism and for being a strong finisher underneath the rim. Kinda reminds me also of RDO, yung outside shooting na lang ang kulang.

Bates upside is his height and aggression on the defensive end. He would be an additional rim protector for BGSM along with Japhet.

OK, so Cone says that CStand just got his contract extended, so that "last conference" rumor might turn out to be bullshit.

He will adjust, but it's best if he and Japeth sub for each other for most of the game. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, that Ginebra made the right move for him. I previously said that Ferrer and Manganti were better fits.

He'll lessen Ginebra's need for a big, and make them focus on the forward spots. Still, they could use another big in the near future, when age really starts to hit Japeth and even CStand.

[Rodbi]

OK, so Cone says that CStand just got his contract extended, so that "last conference" rumor might turn out to be bullshit.

He will adjust, but it's best if he and Japeth sub for each other for most of the game. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, that Ginebra made the right move for him. I previously said that Ferrer and Manganti were better fits.

He'll lessen Ginebra's need for a big, and make them focus on the forward spots. Still, they could use another big in the near future, when age really starts to hit Japeth and even CStand.

That's great for BGSM then. It's too early to say that the CStand acquisition is a total bust but still, the coaching has got to find a way on how to utilize an asset like him to the fullest. Perhaps, someone in the BGSM/SMC circle could tame CStand and convince him to fully commit and play within the CTC's system first? They already have Pringle as their main one-on-one offensive option and it still works well.

I fully agree on the next gen of bigs that BGSM must invest on. There are a lot of young guys in the amateurs and minor leagues to choose from but only problem is, will they be ready enough for CTC's triangle offense system? Dun na lang talaga magkakatalo eh.

[IPC]

Something I never understood is why MVP's teams in the PBA always underperform.

Actually. The SMC teams have been a roadblock for them. The MVP teams tend to choke against them for some reason in the years before they won the All-Filipino a couple months ago.

[thatweirdguy]

Actually. The SMC teams have been a roadblock for them. The MVP teams tend to choke against them for some reason in the years before they won the All-Filipino a couple months ago.

Probably because of SMC teams huge advantage on firepower? It also didn't help that SMC teams hoarded all the legit bigmen in the league and that TNTs premier players are close to retirement by the time JF and were drafted.

[IPC]

If only Anthony Semerad was eligible for Gilas, he's an ideal 3 and D player

Semerad got me thinking about how the small ball 4 has become more common for PBA teams. And a great majority are good-sized for the position already. And all of them can play the 3 and play or guard the perimeter.

NLEX - 6'4" Semerad, 6'5" Oftana
TerraFirma - 6'5" Cahilig, 6'5" Adams (although he usually plays the 3)
NorthPort - 6'4" Arwind, 6'5" Ferrer, 6'6" Malonzo
Ginebra - 6'3" Mariano, 6'4" Dillinger, 6'5" Tolentino
Magnolia - 6'2" Abueva, 6'5" Dionisio
MERALCO - 6'4" Hodge (he used to play SF earlier in his career)
TNT - 6'4" Khobuntin
Phoenix - 6'4" Anthony, 6'5" Manganti, hopefully 6'5" Camacho
RoS - 6'2" Mocon, 6'4" Santillan, 6'4" Borboran

Hopefully, more 6'4"-6'5" guys come in, and they play the small-ball 4. Eventually, hopefully these guys then get moved to the 3.

[IPC]

Semerad got me thinking about how the small ball 4 has become more common for PBA teams. And a great majority are good-sized for the position already. And all of them can play the 3 and play or guard the perimeter.

NLEX - 6'4" Semerad, 6'5" Oftana
TerraFirma - 6'5" Cahilig, 6'5" Adams (although he usually plays the 3)
NorthPort - 6'4" Arwind, 6'5" Ferrer, 6'6" Malonzo
Ginebra - 6'3" Mariano, 6'4" Dillinger, 6'5" Tolentino
Magnolia - 6'2" Abueva, 6'5" Dionisio
MERALCO - 6'4" Hodge (he used to play SF earlier in his career)
TNT - 6'4" Khobuntin
Phoenix - 6'4" Anthony, 6'5" Manganti, hopefully 6'5" Camacho
RoS - 6'2" Mocon, 6'4" Santillan, 6'4" Borboran

Hopefully, more 6'4"-6'5" guys come in, and they play the small-ball 4. Eventually, hopefully these guys then get moved to the 3.

Hopefully, the addition of guys like Lawrence Domingo and Caelan Tiongson help this trend. Both look like they can play both forward positions.

[zairex]

This could be an interesting format for the PBA. They keep the number of games and can still make some money off the fans while keeping the level of competition good, and be FIBA-friendly as well.

I just hope that in your proposed with import tournaments, they don't impose a height limit.

How do they make money? they need fans in the stadium to pay for tickets. Fans now don't go to stadiums regularly. They couldn't fill up the arena unless Ginebra or classic games.

[zairex]

Hopefully, the addition of guys like Lawrence Domingo and Caelan Tiongson help this trend. Both look like they can play both forward positions.

How do we define small ball 4? As long as he can shoot the ball from perimeter?

[IPC]

How do we define small ball 4? As long as he can shoot the ball? Domingo can't.

Not exactly. As long as he can play the SF position, pwede naman small-ball 4. At least in my book.

So Domingo is kinda like Hodge, so to speak. But he looks like he has the handles of a perimeter player. Shooting lang ang kulang. Kinda like someone like Javonte Green, who's played 4 for the Bulls and has had a history of difficulty of shooting (although I think he's shot well from 3 this NBA season), but still a small-ball 4.

[IPC]

How do they make money? they need fans in the stadium to pay for tickets. Fans now don't go to stadiums regularly. They couldn't fill up the arena unless Ginebra or classic games.

Even before the pandemic, attendance was low due to lack of fan interest in the Metro. Kahit nga Ginebra games, hindi kumpleto ang attendance.

Question talaga is marketing. How do you make the league, and the other 11 teams, appealing to the fans?

[zairex]

Even before the pandemic, attendance was low due to lack of fan interest in the Metro. Kahit nga Ginebra games, hindi kumpleto ang attendance.

Question talaga is marketing. How do you make the league, and the other 11 teams, appealing to the fans?

Exactly pre-pandemic 5K average fans in a 20K capacity arena. If I am not mistaken, revenue from TV ads goes to TV5. I just don't know about revenues from YT or Facebook.

[ja.he]

Exactly pre-pandemic 5K average fans in a 20K capacity arena. If I am not mistaken, revenue from TV ads goes to TV5. I just don't know about revenues from YT or Facebook.

Even before the pandemic, attendance was low due to lack of fan interest in the Metro. Kahit nga Ginebra games, hindi kumpleto ang attendance.

Question talaga is marketing. How do you make the league, and the other 11 teams, appealing to the fans?

How can these teams get more appeal to the fans when they were named after a poultry product, prepaid sim, a toll way and a perfume? Well, while we can actually say that PBA used to be popular with teams such as Toyota, Crispa, Magnolia, SMB and Ginebra but these teams are followed because of certain personalities. Teams like Shell and Pop Cola/Sunkist had a huge following - thanks to the guys like Benjie Paras, Ronnie Magsanoc and Vergel Meneses. However, as soon as these players left there teams, the popularity of these teams waned.

For me, what PBA should address is their member teams' fanbases.

[zairex]

How can these teams get more appeal to the fans when they were named after a poultry product, prepaid sim, a toll way and a perfume? Well, while we can actually say that PBA used to be popular with teams such as Toyota, Crispa, Magnolia, SMB and Ginebra but these teams are followed because of certain personalities. Teams like Shell and Pop Cola/Sunkist had a huge following - thanks to the guys like Benjie Paras, Ronnie Magsanoc and Vergel Meneses. However, as soon as these players left there teams, the popularity of these teams waned.

For me, what PBA should address is their member teams' fanbases.

Well in the defense of PBA monickers, NBA has Heat, Nets which I don't know exactly what they are. B. League has, Happinets, Tokyo Z Friends.

[JAMSKIE]

How can these teams get more appeal to the fans when they were named after a poultry product, prepaid sim, a toll way and a perfume? Well, while we can actually say that PBA used to be popular with teams such as Toyota, Crispa, Magnolia, SMB and Ginebra but these teams are followed because of certain personalities. Teams like Shell and Pop Cola/Sunkist had a huge following - thanks to the guys like Benjie Paras, Ronnie Magsanoc and Vergel Meneses. However, as soon as these players left there teams, the popularity of these teams waned.

For me, what PBA should address is their member teams' fanbases.

Great points bro. Perhaps the only PBA team that remains very popular despite the departure of certain personalities who are very much identified with the team (Sonny Jaworski of course the most popular figure of the team of all time) is Ginebra.