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  • #31
    Originally posted by behzadir View Post
    I know him better than most his countrymen as he is a close friend to Arsalan Kazemi and i'm in contact with Arsalan and know his thoughts.
    No one has told me this,it's just obvious if you see the young prospects games. Ahmad Ibrahim is a great player for his caliber,a skillful shooter, but still has a long road ahead of him to be an outstanding prospect. Playing with Rice will surely improve his game. For now Arsalan is amazingly better than any other prospect and no one comes close to him. I would put Guo Ailun as the next player after Kazemi right now.
    If Guo Ailun is indeed the correct age like posted then yes it might be possible but you can never know the true correct ages of the Chinese players due to the unfortunate cheating that takes place in China regarding the date of birth of their players

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Khalid80 View Post
      If Guo Ailun is indeed the correct age like posted then yes it might be possible but you can never know the true correct ages of the Chinese players due to the unfortunate cheating that takes place in China regarding the date of birth of their players
      Yes indeed ,agreed.

      The age problem is always there in chinese basketball. Never been faded away!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by behzadir View Post
        He was better than him in the same age too.

        I never said i'm a god of basketball,i'm just emphasizing my opinions. You can walk by them if you don't mind reading them. I have my share of basketball knowledge.


        About Guo Ailun he is surely being exaggerated on by some over here, but give him credit for posting the most PPG in the 2010 FIBA Under-17 World Championship with 22.4 and landing China to seventh place,he also played some good minutes with the Senior team in WC 2010. Also Arsalan has shown himself with a remarkable performance at the age of 20 in the basketball WC last year in turkey with Iran's Senior team.

        The last international tournament i remember from Ahmad Ibrahim was last years tragic performance(team performance) in the U18 Asian championship. So he has yet to show himself though i know he has a great potential.
        just remember even a world class player like Kobe or Lebron can't hold a team on his back all the time.
        Basketball is a team game. Individuals achieve things playing for the team.

        If a star player doesn't have support role players around him it's unlikely that the team will win.

        Tracy McGrady used to score over 35 pts average with The Magics but most of the time Orlando ended up with a L.

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        • #34
          speaking of prospect, this kid would be one of the pillars of PHilippine basketball in next version of smart gilas (together with Parks jr.)

          keifer ravena 5'11 18 years of age

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mavrick_h View Post
            just remember even a world class player like Kobe or Lebron can't hold a team on his back all the time.
            Basketball is a team game. Individuals achieve things playing for the team.

            If a star player doesn't have support role players around him it's unlikely that the team will win.

            Tracy McGrady used to score over 35 pts average with The Magics but most of the time Orlando ended up with a L.
            That's exactly what i mean here. Some guys are making the pressure increase on a player that is only 18 yo. They expect him to carry his senior national team in such age. With this kind of expectations put aside improving,the player will get mentally broken i guess.

            Same going with Arsalan. He is still young and we shouldn't expect him to do something extraordinary. Our key players are Haddadi,Samad,Afagh and Kamrani. Arsalan is a great inclusion in the roster but he's still not the GUY on the team. He will learn game after game.

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            • #36
              well,i havent watched all arsalan's games with rice, but i did watch him with the NT in Iran, and i did watch many tapes of him training with brahim.
              and from where i stand, to be honest i must say that arsalan is more explosive under the basket,whereas brahim is a much better shooter and a better dribbler, and i might even add better defender, just that on Kazemi has a huge edge on the rebounding end, i've seen brahim taking his shots off the drible but never seen kazemi doing that (again in what i've seen of both),both are fast but cant judge who's faster
              overall both are great high caliber players but i'll have to wait for this year to see brahim's performance with rice to judge wether or not he's really an overall better than Kazemi though the former has some huge shoes to fill.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by behzadir View Post
                He was better than him in the same age too.

                I never said i'm a god of basketball,i'm just emphasizing my opinions. You can walk by them if you don't mind reading them. I have my share of basketball knowledge.
                I respect your opinion, never did otherwise, however the way you judge is not logical. Again, what sort of measurement you used to determine whether Arsalan was better at Ahmad's age? Actually Ahmad's at the age of 16 topscored the Asian U18 back to 2008 with 35ppg, and if it wasn't for the biggest scandal ever vs Kazakhstan and the horrible officiating, we could have made it all the way to the World Championship alongside you guys.
                I dont want to go into details of how big the difference was and still is btw the way the Iranian youths prepare and the one of Lebanon, huge difference, and that for sure is our problem not yours.



                About Guo Ailun he is surely being exaggerated on by some over here, but give him credit for posting the most PPG in the 2010 FIBA Under-17 World Championship with 22.4 and landing China to seventh place,he also played some good minutes with the Senior team in WC 2010. Also Arsalan has shown himself with a remarkable performance at the age of 20 in the basketball WC last year in turkey with Iran's Senior team.
                Guo is a great player, but first i dont think his age is correct, no info just guessing. And second, i dont think he's enough skillful to be compared to Ahmad or Arsalan.


                The last international tournament i remember from Ahmad Ibrahim was last years tragic performance(team performance) in the U18 Asian championship. So he has yet to show himself though i know he has a great potential.
                Just to let you know, Ahmad joined the team directly in Yemen, did not have a single practice with the team who was in mood that Ahmad is not coming, and surprisingly Ahmad arrived. Again, this is not your problem,its ours, but the situations that Ahmad has been put in is really different than Arsalan. And im sure if Ahmad was given the right chance, he will shine exactly like Arsalan bcz both are from the same quality.
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                • #38
                  [QUOTE=nader7;635370]
                  Originally posted by sinobball View Post
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                  Qatar
                  No. Given Name Family Name DOB Ht. Pos.
                  4 Targuy Alban Ngombo 18/07/1989 194
                  5 Ousseynou Ndiaye 08/12/1985 191
                  6 Mansour Atif Elhadary 01/01/1990 176
                  7 Saad Abdulrahman Ali 02/05/1985 192
                  8 Mohamed Hassan Mohamed 03/08/1991 185
                  9 Ali Turki Ali 10/01/1982 200
                  10 Khalid Abdalla Adam 27/02/1993 200
                  11 Erfan Ali Saeed 20/12/1983 198
                  12 Mame Souleye Ndour 15/12/1987 206
                  13 Hammam Omar Ismail 15/09/1983 200
                  14 Abduallah Shaher Matalkeh 08/03/1991 198
                  15 Omar Abdelkader Salem 01/10/1985 205

                  Why chauncey lesley isn't with the qatari team?
                  Both MUSA boys are not in the roster. What happened?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by behzadir View Post
                    I know him better than most his countrymen as he is a close friend to Arsalan Kazemi and i'm in contact with Arsalan and know his thoughts.
                    No one has told me this,it's just obvious if you see the young prospects games. Ahmad Ibrahim is a great player for his caliber,a skillful shooter, but still has a long road ahead of him to be an outstanding prospect. Playing with Rice will surely improve his game. For now Arsalan is amazingly better than any other prospect and no one comes close to him. I would put Guo Ailun as the next player after Kazemi right now.
                    I was impressed when I saw Arsalan Kazemi's game with Rice University. The dude is long, athletic, and he plays with a lot of energy. Iran is so lucky to have two of the best small forwards in Asia in Kazemi and Bahrami.
                    5 Rings. San Antonio Spurs.

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                    • #40
                      I don't know much about Asian prospects, but I have seen Kazemi play several times and he's a legit NBA prospect. He's projected as a mid second round draft pick right now and could go higher with another solid season at Rice.

                      I was impressed with his rebounding ability and athleticism. He more than held his own against some good NBA players. He's the best prospect to come out of Asia in the last few years.

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                      • #41
                        targuy ngombo is already their naturalized player
                        actually their center was also from senegal the efran saeed guy..
                        so that already counts as 2 naturalized

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by acklium View Post
                          targuy ngombo is already their naturalized player
                          actually their center was also from senegal the efran saeed guy..
                          so that already counts as 2 naturalized

                          hey fiba asia!still sleeping?
                          No man, Targuy is counted as Qatari, the problem is with Leslie's ID, and Qatar has some time to solve his issue.

                          As for Erfan Saeed, he's of Senegali's origin, but also counted as Qatari, just like Mami Ndour, who is their new center, with Senegal original nationality, and Qatari ID as usual
                          Last edited by babdelkader; 09-13-2011, 08:10 AM.

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                          • #43
                            [QUOTE=tmlouk;637656]
                            Originally posted by nader7 View Post

                            Both MUSA boys are not in the roster. What happened?
                            According to Qatar, they are born 1980 and 1982.
                            Saad Abdulrahman Ali is Saeed Kosar and Kosar was born 1980 while Ali is born 1985.
                            Since Ngombo is born 1984 and listed 1989...then
                            Yaseen Musa is born 1975 and Daoud Musa is born 1977. They are old, maybe just too old.

                            BTW: Mustafa El Sayyad is also not with the team.

                            This guy is new:

                            Matalkeh.

                            Hammam Ismail


                            Also new are:
                            Khalid Adam and El Hadary (who is from Egypt).

                            ...and my favourite pic is:
                            Last edited by Mojado; 09-13-2011, 08:43 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by babdelkader View Post
                              No man, Targuy is counted as Qatari, the problem is with Leslie's ID, and Qatar has some time to solve his issue.

                              As for Erfan Saeed, he's of Senegali's origin, but also counted as Qatari, just like Mami Ndour, who is their new center, with Senegal original nationality, and Qatari ID as usual
                              ID is different from naturalized?
                              wtf is wrong with fiba asia!are they scared of QATAR?
                              origin is different from having a mixed blood of qatari or what so ever and even the naturalized......
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                              • #45
                                [QUOTE=Mojado;638280]
                                Originally posted by tmlouk View Post

                                According to Qatar, they are born 1980 and 1982.
                                Saad Abdulrahman Ali is Saeed Kosar and Kosar was born 1980 while Ali is born 1985.
                                Since Ngombo is born 1984 and listed 1989...then
                                Yaseen Musa is born 1975 and Daoud Musa is born 1977. They are old, maybe just too old.

                                BTW: Mustafa El Sayyad is also not with the team.

                                This guy is new:

                                Matalkeh.

                                Hammam Ismail


                                Also new are:
                                Khalid Adam and El Hadary (who is from Egypt).

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