Iran vs Jordan vs Lebanon vs China

[TheShot]

what about everybody uses these nationalized players and see what happens?
how about that ?

Thats like saying we should let everyone use steroids, if its fair for one countries, and it should be done for every country. See the logic? Not happening.

[jxuusa]

you missed a key word in his sentence, and that would be -yes you guessed it (or maybe not)- "continue".

But nvm, just troll away.

If he's American or supports America, then that statement to begin with would have never been true.

The way the imports dominate only demonstrate how much the rest of the team (and Asia) that are domestic have to improve. Eventually the level of play of domestic players will decline due to the dependence on imports and what then? Become the next Qatar and have literally a full roster of non-domestic players?

[BlacKOEIsle]

Offtopic tunisia has advanced to the semis at fiba africa, just been wondering how our teams top 4 in asia match with the top 4 in africa??that would be interesting if they make a small champion ship between the top 4 from each zone a year after each fiba championship this would improve the game in both Asia and africa.

China with Yao Ming always beat those African teams easily(except in 2002 when China suffered from the new blood transition)....

[BlacKOEIsle]

If West Asian teams don't buy American and African players and use only their natural players, the top 4 teams probably are :

China, Iran, Korea, Pilipin edit: yeah, thanks, Taiwan should be fighitng with Pilipin and Japan for 4th palce

Countries like Lebanon, Jordan, Qatar, UAE will be fighting with Hong Kong and Indonesia for 5-9 place.

Lebanon is strong,and is a basketball favor country who can produce domestic good players like Khatib.They can at least challenge for the top 4 without americans..

But Jordan?I seriously think if not for nationalized ones,the likes of PHI is better than them...And damn,it's a county where basketball is not popular .....

BTW:it doesn't make you feel good when you hear the players use English instead of Arabic to communicate on the court....

[WIZARD]

Fiba made the rules, and by those rules we are playing..if any one is having issues they can freely complain to FIBA, jordan has 1 american player,lebanon has 1 american player. the rest are all locals so stop this nonsense and to this american dude ,didnt russia naturalize Holden?
or didnt germany naturalize kaman ,didnt turkey naturalize ilyasova from azerbaijan? and those are top european countries that dont need this step and they can easily win any game against the top asian teams with 30+ pts minimum including china! as for africa i wont comment cuz i dont care its not my concern i care about asia.OH before i forget Didnt THE ALL MIGHTY USA naturalize hakeem olajuwon??

[BlacKOEIsle]

Fiba made the rules, and by those rules we are playing..if any one is having issues they can freely complain to FIBA, jordan has 1 american player,lebanon has 1 american player. the rest are all locals so stop this nonsense and to this american dude ,didnt russia naturalize Holden?
or didnt germany naturalize kaman ,didnt turkey naturalize ilyasova from azerbaijan? and those are top european countries that dont need this step and they can easily win any game against the top asian teams with 30+ pts minimum including china! as for africa i wont comment cuz i dont care its not my concern i care about asia.OH before i forget Didnt THE ALL USA naturalize hakeem olajuwon??

Yes,the rest are all locals,though many of them doesn't speak local language....

And man...we lost to Spain in OT,lost to Greece by 12,lost to Lituanian by 20...How can you say the likes of Turkey can easily beat China with 30+ minimum?(Yao-less China maybe?)

From what I see you don't follow basketball closely and I think you should think carefully before writing such things.

[nader]

Fiba made the rules, and by those rules we are playing..if any one is having issues they can freely complain to FIBA, jordan has 1 american player,lebanon has 1 american player. the rest are all locals so stop this nonsense and to this american dude ,didnt russia naturalize Holden?
or didnt germany naturalize kaman ,didnt turkey naturalize ilyasova from azerbaijan? and those are top european countries that dont need this step and they can easily win any game against the top asian teams with 30+ pts minimum including china! as for africa i wont comment cuz i dont care its not my concern i care about asia.OH before i forget Didnt THE ALL USA naturalize hakeem olajuwon??

and not to forget that usa neutralized our all Lebanese rony saikley

[WIZARD]

Lebanon is strong,and is a basketball favor country who can produce domestic good players like Khatib.They can at least challenge for the top 4 without americans..

But Jordan?I seriously think if not for nationalized ones,the likes of PHI is better than them...And damn,it's a county where basketball is not popular .....

BTW:it doesn't make you feel good when you hear the players use English instead of Arabic to communicate on the court....

u mean 1 naturalized player rashiem and not once ,we are not cheaters, anyway i start to smill the fear from the chinese after those 2 games against lebanon and jordan..before that we didnt hear them complaning
anyway we have won alot of good games against good teams with out rashiem and daghlas and ayman deis . now about this english well
english is the second official language in jordan and 70% of ppl speak it
plus rashiem doesnt speak arabic so how in hell would he understand his team mates??!!

[sinobball]

Naturalization is a good thing for Asian basketball. This is basketball not politics and basketball needs good players. As long as a player only plays for one team, I am all for it. Every country can naturalize one player per FIBA rule so what is the problem? I understand that many country don't want to do it and that's fine too; there is no point in bringing this up every time. I much rather want to see Vroman and Freije giving China a good fight than 88-point blowouts

As far as nationalities go, not all nations have the same laws and standards. Even as far as China goes, in the 1950s and 1960s, almost all players in the People's Republic of China basketball team are ethnic Chinese people from Philippines or Indonesia. So please understand each other. Lebanon has had a turbulent history in recent decades and understandably many Lebanese are born outside of Lebanon. Philippines and Jordan have many people leaving their countries and immigrate to America. Qatar is a tiny country with big resources so even their demographics have a lot of immigrants and foreign workers, so what is the problem of having some players who originated from Sudan but live their lives out in Qatar?

[BlacKOEIsle]

u mean 1 naturalized player rashiem and not once ,we are not cheaters, anyway i startes to smill the fear from the chinese after those 2 games against lebanon and jordan..before that we didnt hear them complaning
anyway we have won alot of good games against good teams with out rashiem and daghlas and ayman deis . now about this english well
english is the second official language in jordan and 70% of ppl speak it
plus rashiem doesnt speak arabic so how in hell would he understand his team mates??!!

No...I don't fear your team at all...As I said before,you can win at most 1 or 2 games out of 10 against this Yao-less China..

As you say english is the second offcial language.Then maybe this question is more accuracy:Can all the locals speak Arabic?

[WIZARD]

Yes,the rest are all locals,though many of them doesn't speak local language....

And man...we lost to Spain in OT,lost to Greece by 12,lost to Lituanian by 20...How can you say the likes of Turkey can easily beat China with 30+ minimum?(Yao-less China maybe?)

From what I see you don't follow basketball closely and I think you should think carefully before writing such things.

dude i follow basket ball very well.. i will post some results of china being beaten by high scores later on..but hey if u think that china is on the same level of those teams then its good new for us heheh..we arent that far from then too

[BlacKOEIsle]

dude i follow basket ball very well.. i will post some results of china being beaten by high scores later on..but hey if u think that china is on the same level of those teams then its goo new for use heheh..we arent that far from then too

I can give you more...
China always get beaten by the top teams of world easily by 30 margin(greece,usa,lituanian,etc...)
But against europe 2-tier teams China can always have a fight with them(Italy,Slovenia in 2006,German in 2008)..

BTW:China used to lose to the likes of Yugoslav by 60+..But that's more than 10 years ago...

And you follow basketball so well that you even don't know China quit from the U18 ABC in 2008...

[WIZARD]

No...I don't fear your team at all...As I said before,you can win at most 1 or 2 games out of 10 against this Yao-less China..

As you say english is the second offcial language.Then maybe this question is more accuracy:Can all the locals speak Arabic?

u mean the players? yes of course man ,but as i said the coach speaks in english rashiem speaks only english so thats why they use it on court.

[BlacKOEIsle]

dude i follow basket ball very well.. i will post some results of china being beaten by high scores later on..but hey if u think that china is on the same level of those teams then its goo new for use heheh..we arent that far from then too

Even Yao-less China can beat you easily.(don't judge from the score..it can be seen from the game the gap between Yao-less China and Jordan is about 10 points)

China with Yao can easily crush you by 20+ margin,and you are not far from us.

[WIZARD]

I can give you more...
China always get beaten by the top teams of world easily by 30 margin(greece,usa,lituanian,etc...)
But against europe 2-tier teams China can always have a fight with them(Italy,Slovenia in 2006,German in 2008)..

BTW:China used to lose to the likes of Yugoslav by 60+..But that's more than 10 years ago...

And you follow basketball so well that you even don't know China quit from the U18 ABC in 2008...

i live in serbia man, *ex yugoslavia* i follow the european basket more than the asian one (unless my senior team is playing),plus i told u once we middle eastern ppl dont care much about the youth teams **by that i mean fans** not the federations, senior teams in all sports gets the attention always. we measure the sucsess in our sports with our senior teams thats how it goes in the meddile east what can u do about it?