Iran vs Jordan vs Lebanon vs China

[khalid]

I bet that if we did not withdraw then we would beaten Iran Hardly and you know that

nope.. nobody knows unless it's actually played

[marko]

ohooo jordan lebanon woow would be gr8 .. the best two arabic basketball teams fighting for the asian title.. leaving iran and china fighting for the third world cup spot lol:P
anywayz this scenario is not impossible

[masketball]

Well, basketball is not math, and the score between different teams does not mean too much. The difference between a 3 point loss and a 6 point loss is an extra missed 3 pointer. I saw the game between CHN vs LIB and JOR earlier, one thing they have in common is that CHN is in control of the whole situation. Even though both LIB and JOR come in very close, in both occasions CHN pulled away with one or two nice plays.

SOme of the body languages have shown me that CHN player never thought about losing either games. One of the difference is that by the end of the game, when LIB/JOR scored a critical shot and came in close, their players jumped up and down and cheered like there's no tomorrow, but when CHN returned the favor one play later, their player/bench was relatively calm. Yesterday when WZZ shot a 2 and 1 when JOR was like 3 point behind with 20 seconds left, he and his teammate were pretty calm, and if you saw his face on the TV, he has very little emotions. No panic, no hugging, no tear dropping drama. IT's almost like saying "I told you we got this one". That WZZ shot eventually crippled the JOR plan because now they were forced to rush 3 pointers which never hit. Both JOR and LIB came really close, but as you might aware, 1 point loss is a loss.

I don't know how many times CHN have won this cup, but it seem like that their players have such a psychological supeority over their asian rivals that they can't see themselves losing. It is common to be scared or panic when your rival is like 1 point behind, you, but for CHN team last night, That thought of "omg we are screwed tonight" doesn't seems to be there. Even though many teams (Like JOR and LIB) have shown that they are up there with the "big boys", CHN still have the " I am better than you" mentality. No one can tell how long this mentality will last, but last night and the night before, I saw this kind of attitude towards LIB and JOR.

If I have to rate those three teams (i don't know Iran too much)
i would rank
0. CHN with yao
1. CHN with out yao
2. LIB (physical games w/ good bigs beat guards, the paint is where games are won, or lost)
3. JOR (they have shown that they can beat LIB when things are going alright, but i would rank a guard oriented team behind a Big man oriented team, if they seem to be on the same level)

thank you CHN LIB JOR for making this AC a lot more fun to watch. BB doesn't need 100 pt blowout.

[WIZARD]

ohooo jordan lebanon woow would be gr8 .. the best two arabic basketball teams fighting for the asian title.. leaving iran and china fighting for the third world cup spot lol:P
anywayz this scenario is not impossible

yeah i agree, i really can see lebanon beating china why not? both our teams proved they can do it, its just they need to focus little bit on executing the ball a low field goal % is not in our favor and that what happened to our teams, jordan sucked at those 3 pts and lebanon didnt have high 2pt (from the paint i mean) but yet we were so close.plues meeting in the finals will tell who is better than who instead of bragging hehehe

[WIZARD]

Well, basketball is not math, and the score between different teams does not mean too much. The difference between a 3 point loss and a 6 point loss is an extra missed 3 pointer. I saw the game between CHN vs LIB and JOR earlier, one thing they have in common is that CHN is in control of the whole situation. Even though both LIB and JOR come in very close, in both occasions CHN pulled away with one or two nice plays.

SOme of the body languages have shown me that CHN player never thought about losing either games. One of the difference is that by the end of the game, when LIB/JOR scored a critical shot and came in close, their players jumped up and down and cheered like there's no tomorrow, but when CHN returned the favor one play later, their player/bench was relatively calm. Yesterday when WZZ shot a 2 and 1 when JOR was like 3 point behind with 20 seconds left, he and his teammate were pretty calm, and if you saw his face on the TV, he has very little emotions. No panic, no hugging, no tear dropping drama. IT's almost like saying "I told you we got this one". That WZZ shot eventually crippled the JOR plan because now they were forced to rush 3 pointers which never hit. Both JOR and LIB came really close, but as you might aware, 1 point loss is a loss.

I don't know how many times CHN have won this cup, but it seem like that their players have such a psychological supeority over their asian rivals that they can't see themselves losing. It is common to be scared or panic when your rival is like 1 point behind, you, but for CHN team last night, That thought of "omg we are screwed tonight" doesn't seems to be there. Even though many teams (Like JOR and LIB) have shown that they are up there with the "big boys", CHN still have the " I am better than you" mentality. No one can tell how long this mentality will last, but last night and the night before, I saw this kind of attitude towards LIB and JOR.

If I have to rate those three teams (i don't know Iran too much)
i would rank
0. CHN with yao
1. CHN with out yao
2. LIB (physical games w/ good bigs beat guards, the paint is where games are won, or lost)
3. JOR (they have shown that they can beat LIB when things are going alright, but i would rank a guard oriented team behind a Big man oriented team, if they seem to be on the same level)

i agree,but u know i can tell u from now that if china wins it this time.it will be their last for few years to come until they produce a better squad than the current one trust me, that just reminds me of the american squad at the 2000 olympic games, their games against lithuania and france showed every one that in the upcomenig international games they will be beaten and that what happened, something else west asian teams are catching up with china very quickly.so its just a matter of time when we will see china ranked 3rd or 4th maybe.

[pinoybrat]

i think the top four spots belong to china,iran,jordan and lebanon... i dont know which placing might they end up... but im still hoping that someone from the underdogs pull an upset win....

[kentpaul]

i want to see iran vs jordan!!! hahah.

[Z-Grant]

i agree,but u know i can tell u from now that if china wins it this time.it will be their last for few years to come until they produce a better squad than the current one trust me, that just reminds me of the american squad at the 2000 olympic games, their games against lithuania and france showed every one that in the upcomenig international games they will be beaten and that what happened, something else west asian teams are catching up with china very quickly.so its just a matter of time when we will see china ranked 3rd or 4th maybe.

yeah, while the west asian teams just simply got some players from USA....., but still, id like to see the overall upgrade of asian basketball performance, otherwise, it will be really boring ...

[WIZARD]

yeah, while the west asian teams just simply got some players from USA....., but still, id like to see the overall upgrade of asian basketball performance, otherwise, it will be really boring ...

dude its just a 1 player??? heck germany has american player CHRIS KAMAN
the all mighty Russia has an American player.it was just one of those plans to improve the game in general,and to tell u the truth rashiem will be last naturalized player..palma insisted to bring a good player to improve the all over performance and it wasnt easy procedure it went to the king him self to sign his papers and its the first time in our country to do so just for the sake of our NT other wise foreigners never get the jordanian ID no matter what.
but as u said this is still good generaly for the sake of the asian BB.

[masketball]

i agree,but u know i can tell u from now that if china wins it this time.it will be their last for few years to come until they produce a better squad than the current one trust me, that just reminds me of the american squad at the 2000 olympic games, their games against lithuania and france showed every one that in the upcomenig international games they will be beaten and that what happened, something else west asian teams are catching up with china very quickly.so its just a matter of time when we will see china ranked 3rd or 4th maybe.

"until they produce a better squad than the current one" is the key sentence in this quote. The question is : "can a country w/ 1 billion people that loves basketball produce some more asia/world level talent?" I am not surprised if they do. By looking at the previous asia junior game, CHN pretty much pwned everybody until that game which they withdrew from the game. CHN is the last country in asia that i would worry about a continous supply of talent. If yao retires now, CHN will face a shortage but not as bad as some thought. Yi...cough...cough...jianlian. A 20 year old (Okay...24 year old) with high potential. If yao decide that he will play once again, asia teams are toast. He pwned everybody in 08 Olympics, i would expect total domination at asia's level. I doubt his condition would allow him to play for CHN, but NBA is where he belongs anyways.

The problem with us is that not all NBA talent would want to play for his country (sad isn't it) or play at full force. because if they got injured, their upcomming season is screwed. They get paid playing NBA games, and international games are not their focus. That changed until U.S got smoked by Greece few years earlier, the pride of U.S basketball was crippled for the next few years. Now more people in the U.S realized that the world is catching up and we can't beat them with out our best. Look at 08 OC, we send out our elite squad, and our average victory margin is double digit.

[WIZARD]

"until they produce a better squad than the current one" is the key sentence in this quote. The question is : "can a country w/ 1 billion people that loves basketball produce some more asia/world level talent?" I am not surprised if they do. By looking at the previous asia junior game, CHN pretty much pwned everybody until that game which they withdrew from the game. CHN is the last country in asia that i would worry about a continous supply of talent. If yao retires now, CHN will face a shortage but not as bad as some thought. Yi...cough...cough...jianlian. A 20 year old (Okay...24 year old) with high potential. If yao decide that he will play once again, asia teams are toast. He pwned everybody in 08 Olympics, i would expect total domination at asia's level. I doubt his condition would allow him to play for CHN, but NBA is where he belongs anyways.

The problem with us is that not all NBA talent would want to play for his country (sad isn't it) or play at full force. because if they got injured, their upcomming season is screwed. They get paid playing NBA games, and international competation is not their focus. That changed until U.S got smoked by Greece few years earlier, the pride of U.S basketball was crippled for the next few years. Now more people in the U.S realized that the world is catching up and we can't beat them with out our best. Look at 08 OC, we send out our elite squad, and our average victory margin is double digit.

i agree with the china part,its a huge country and they wont face any problems creating good teams.but by the time new chinese team rises up
west asian teams will be doing the same since they will be motivated by the results they achieved ,lets say jordan and lebanon make it to the WC, this will force the local federations to work harder to keep those achievments
and even try farther more than playing in the WC,but even advancing to the second round or so, it may take some time and patience,but it will pay off
later on.

[hawke12]

China vs. Iran

[BlacKOEIsle]

It seems every people thought Lebanon would beat Korea definitely...

And man...if not for the nationalized ones..Korea would be TOP4,at least better than Jordan...

[FARIDOON]

Philippines vs Iran in the Finals..

[prince75]

Philippines VS Iran in the Finals LOL....... But i hope so