24th FIBA-Asia Championship [Jul 28-Aug 5 Japan]

[reamily]

Lets get it on Rp vs Lebanon in finals who will qualify who will win who gonna be the x-factor for lebanon we know lebanon a good team a go to guy and a good big man and a good guards a great defensive team a physical team while rp afast team and now a mixture of korean pinoy basketball where we took alot of 3's or i say phoenix suns type with no star players just pure team play anyone can explode great match

[pachador]

i believe middle east is a rising power in basketball because of a combination of tall populations, increased popularity of basketball and money. Africa actually has a bigger potential but because most of africa is very poor, the middle-east will probably progress faster in basketball for the near-future.

the biggest obstacles to philippine basketball is the lack of a grassroots program unlike south korea and china which is only being remedied now, and a population of short people whcih has been overcome to a large extent by a fanatical following of basketball among filipinos, and the continuing supply of good filipino-Am players, but if basketball continues to grow in popularity in the middle east then we can expect stronger middle-east teams specially Iran which has a big an tall population. If i am correct, Lebanon has 'politics' interfering with the growth of lebanese basketball(daniab and karim can explain more about this)

[andoks]

A good ranking is good, but it does not always spell victory. The Philippines has just proven that during the SEABA, Jones Cup, and Manila Invitationals.

I don't care what China or Lebanon says about the Philippine team, but this team has a good fighting chance against any team in Asia today, including China, Lebanon, Qatar, and South Korea.

No one is guaranteed to win the Fiba-Asia title, not the Philippines, not China, not anyone. The only guarantee is that China, win or loss, is a cinch to make it to next year's basketball olympics by virtue of its hosting rights.

But this is by far the best national basketball team we have formed for the ABC since the 1985 RP champion. This is the team I want to watch on TV and cheer with gusto because it is truly the best we have.

And if we lose, I believe it will be a close one, not necessarily to a better team, but to a team with better breaks and luck. And I can accept that kind of loss, if at all.

[saints13]

there are other Asian teams that is closer to China not RP

saints13, you seem to have a lot of knowledge about RP bball internationally
and i seem to know less (and thats true, i admire you for that)

but you dont have to bring into play that historical knowledge of yours to just refute my point

yeah i asked you in my last post "is the ranking legit?"
you seemed to looked at it, the word legit, too literally
hell, of course they earned it, the rankings
teams earned it as you say, the legal way

but when i say legit, is it really 99x true that japan, malaysia etc. should be ahead of us?
are they really 99x better than us?
i know its legal,
on how these teams are being ranked, but does the ranking really shows the true standing of the teams?

just for example, if michael jordan is injured for half of the nba season and just averaged 18ppg due to his injury and loss the mvp race to karl malone but the bulls recovered in the playoffs and won the championship with a healthy jordan in the playoffs

who do you think is the real MVP? yeah malone did get the MVP award the legal way, but jordan is the deserving right? the legit

lastly about that fiba suspension,
this is the time i want you to share your historical knowledge
when was our RP team beaten by 50pts in fiba asia? was that before our suspension? its crazy bec. the only team that can beat us by that large a margin is china, and i dont think fiba should be surprised with that

maybe that RP team you're saying that was beaten by 50pts are college stars? i wanna know wat kind of RP team is that and when
thnx

ah sorry bro, I thought you don't believe in the FIBA rankings. I thought you doubt its legitimacy.

btw, we really won't know if the PBA players are better than the other Asian players unless they play international basketball, and that's what they are doing right now. PBA players don't deserve they are one of the best in Asia unless they prove it the legit way, which is to compete and win and not by assumption alone.

btw, to be realistic, let me share this facts with you.
know your facts too, try looking for these pages, RP in international basketball.you'll know who are the other asian players too, the stats are there, the win-loss cards are still fresh there.
don't argue with me on this one, this is not my assumption, these are facts.

source:www.asia-basket.com

Asian U20 2004
1st Round Group C
1.China. 3-3
2.Jordan 2-1
3.Malaysia 1-2
4.Philippines 0-3

16th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1991
Aug.22 - Sep.1, 1991 at Kobe, Japan
1. China
2. Korea
3. Japan
4. C. Taipei
5. DPR Korea
6. Iran
7. Philippines
8. Jordan
9. Saudi Arabia
10. Singapore
11. Hong Kong
12. Kuwait
13. India
14. Indonesia
15. Bahrain
16. Qatar
17. Malaysia
18. Sri Lanka

17th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1993
Nov.12-21, 1993 at Jakarta, Indonesia
1. China
2. DPR Korea
3. Korea
4. Iran
5. C. Taipei
6. Saudi Arabia
7. Japan
8. UAE
9. Kuwait
10. Jordan
11. Philippines
12. Indonesia
13. Hong Kong
14. Malaysia
15. Thailand
16. Singapore
17. Pakistan
18. Bangladesh

18th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1995
June 17-26, 1995 at Seoul, Korea
1. China
2. Korea
3. Japan
4. C. Taipei
5. Kazakhstan
6. Saudi Arabia
7. Uzbekistan
8. Kyrgyzstan
9. UAE
10. Iran
11. Kuwait
12. Philippines
13. India
14. Malaysia
15. Hong Kong
16. Thailand
17. Jordan
18. Indonesia
19. Sri Lanka

19th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1997
Riyadh, KSA: Sep.11 - Sep.19
1. Korea
2. Japan
3. China
4. Saudi Arabia
5. UAE
6. C. Taipei
7. Jordan
8. Iran
9. Philippines
10. Bahrain
11. India
12. Indonesia
13. Kazakhstan
14. Hong Kong
15. Bangladesh

ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1999
Fukuoka, Japan August 24 - September 5
1. China
2. South Korea
3. Saudi Arabia
4. Taiwan
5. Japan
6. Kuwait
7. Lebanon
8. Syria
9. Uzbekistan
10.United Arab Emirates
11.Philippines
12.Bahrain
13.Hong Kong
14.Thailand
15.Malaysia

21st ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 2001
July 20-28, 2001, International Gymnastic Center, Shanghai, China
1. China
2. Lebanon
3. S.Korea
4. Syria
5. Qatar
6. Japan
7. Taiwan
8. India
9. Uzbekistan
10. UAE
11. Hong Kong
12. Kuwait
13. Thailand
14. Singapore

22nd ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 2003
September 23 - October 1, 2003
1. China
2. Korea
3. Qatar
4. Lebanon
5. Iran
6. Japan
7. Kazakhstan
8. India
9. Syria
10. Jordan
11. Taiwan
12. Kuwait
13. Hong Kong
14. Uzbekistan
15. Philippines
16. Malaysia

23rd ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 2005
September 8-16, 2005 at Doha, Qatar
1. China
2. Lebanon
3. Qatar
4. Korea
5. Japan
6. Iran
7. Jordan
8. S.Arabia
9. Taiwan
10. Kazakhstan
11. Uzbekistan
12. India
13. Kuwait
14. Indonesia
15. Hong Kong
16. Malaysia

[saints13]

But this is by far the best national basketball team we have formed for the ABC since the 1985 RP champion. This is the team I want to watch on TV and cheer with gusto because it is truly the best we have.

I really believe this is the strongest team the RP NT has come so far..hopefully, this will not be the last, and the RP NT will continue to get better and better.

[DiegoClang]

ah sorry bro, I thought you don't believe in the FIBA rankings. I thought you doubt its legitimacy.

btw, we really won't know if the PBA players are better than the other Asian players unless they play international basketball, and that's what they are doing right now. PBA players don't deserve they are one of the best in Asia unless they prove it the legit way, which is to compete and win and not by assumption alone.

btw, to be realistic, let me share this facts with you.
know your facts too, try looking for these pages, RP in international basketball.you'll know who are the other asian players too, the stats are there, the win-loss cards are still fresh there.
don't argue with me on this one, this is not my assumption, these are facts.

source:www.asia-basket.com

Asian U20 2004
1st Round Group C
1.China. 3-3
2.Jordan 2-1
3.Malaysia 1-2
4.Philippines 0-3

16th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1991
Aug.22 - Sep.1, 1991 at Kobe, Japan
1. China
2. Korea
3. Japan
4. C. Taipei
5. DPR Korea
6. Iran
7. Philippines
8. Jordan
9. Saudi Arabia
10. Singapore
11. Hong Kong
12. Kuwait
13. India
14. Indonesia
15. Bahrain
16. Qatar
17. Malaysia
18. Sri Lanka

17th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1993
Nov.12-21, 1993 at Jakarta, Indonesia
1. China
2. DPR Korea
3. Korea
4. Iran
5. C. Taipei
6. Saudi Arabia
7. Japan
8. UAE
9. Kuwait
10. Jordan
11. Philippines
12. Indonesia
13. Hong Kong
14. Malaysia
15. Thailand
16. Singapore
17. Pakistan
18. Bangladesh

18th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1995
June 17-26, 1995 at Seoul, Korea
1. China
2. Korea
3. Japan
4. C. Taipei
5. Kazakhstan
6. Saudi Arabia
7. Uzbekistan
8. Kyrgyzstan
9. UAE
10. Iran
11. Kuwait
12. Philippines
13. India
14. Malaysia
15. Hong Kong
16. Thailand
17. Jordan
18. Indonesia
19. Sri Lanka

19th ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1997
Riyadh, KSA: Sep.11 - Sep.19
1. Korea
2. Japan
3. China
4. Saudi Arabia
5. UAE
6. C. Taipei
7. Jordan
8. Iran
9. Philippines
10. Bahrain
11. India
12. Indonesia
13. Kazakhstan
14. Hong Kong
15. Bangladesh

ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 1999
Fukuoka, Japan August 24 - September 5
1. China
2. South Korea
3. Saudi Arabia
4. Taiwan
5. Japan
6. Kuwait
7. Lebanon
8. Syria
9. Uzbekistan
10.United Arab Emirates
11.Philippines
12.Bahrain
13.Hong Kong
14.Thailand
15.Malaysia

21st ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 2001
July 20-28, 2001, International Gymnastic Center, Shanghai, China
1. China
2. Lebanon
3. S.Korea
4. Syria
5. Qatar
6. Japan
7. Taiwan
8. India
9. Uzbekistan
10. UAE
11. Hong Kong
12. Kuwait
13. Thailand
14. Singapore

22nd ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 2003
September 23 - October 1, 2003
1. China
2. Korea
3. Qatar
4. Lebanon
5. Iran
6. Japan
7. Kazakhstan
8. India
9. Syria
10. Jordan
11. Taiwan
12. Kuwait
13. Hong Kong
14. Uzbekistan
15. Philippines
16. Malaysia

23rd ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 2005
September 8-16, 2005 at Doha, Qatar
1. China
2. Lebanon
3. Qatar
4. Korea
5. Japan
6. Iran
7. Jordan
8. S.Arabia
9. Taiwan
10. Kazakhstan
11. Uzbekistan
12. India
13. Kuwait
14. Indonesia
15. Hong Kong
16. Malaysia

No one can argue with those stats, but can i just ask you...what sort of team did the Philippines send for those tournaments? are they our A team or B,C.D or Z team?

[donmar]

No one can argue with those stats, but can i just ask you...what sort of team did the Philippines send for those tournaments? are they our A team or B,C.D or Z team?

I would say its the B or C or D team from colleges or from amateur leagues... those players were brave boys playing against stronger men in the Asian Championships... eventhough they got wasted...

Don't blame the players... blame the Graham Lim and the BAP!

[daniab]

If i am correct, Lebanon has 'politics' interfering with the growth of lebanese basketball(daniab and karim can explain more about this)

Not exactly,but here in lebanon a lot of politics problems and now we are in war hope they'll finished soon,so the basketball program develop slowly bcz these things (war,instability,...) and this year our NT being their pratice late bcz the situation in Lebanon.

[saints13]

No one can argue with those stats, but can i just ask you...what sort of team did the Philippines send for those tournaments? are they our A team or B,C.D or Z team?

try looking for the asia-basket with those RP teams in the past, look at their composition and it will answer your question bro.

the fact that a team bannered the Philippine team in a FIBA Championships event, it is a national team. ok?the hell who cares what letter of the team the RP is sending.there is no such thing as team B, C or even Z if there is no team A.and the Philippines during those times don't have a continuous basketball program wherein you'll call the strongest team as team A and the next one is team B and the rest will follow, there's no such thing that existed in Philippine Basketball so far because all we have back then was sick basketball program and false myths telling Filipinos that "magagaling ang Pinoy, hindi lang natin pinapadala ang mga pinakamagagaling nating manlalaro kaya tayo natatalo" translation: Filipinos are good in basketball, we just don't send our best. e gagong katwiran yun, talo na nga may palusot pa, e kung gusto natin sabihin na magagaling ang Pinoy, e di ipadala ang mga pinakamagagaling, wag yun nagpapantasya lang tayo ng mga bagay na hindi naman totoo. that's my point, I'm not against our RP team, and I believe that the SBP and SMC-backed RP team we have right now is the best so far.

I'm just being realistic. there are links bro, try to research, the internet has a lot to offer about the RP NT.

[jundakki]

daniab & khatib , just asking what channel in your home country they will televise FIBA Asia? tnx

[budz17]

rankings, rankings, rankings, blah, blah, blah...

basketball games are not won or lost in the rankings, they are won on the basketball court. fans of other countries may look down on philippines basketball, but that is because they do not know much about us. rest assured, the basketball officials of these countries know philippines basketball and I'm sure they don't belittle us. they know that we have a proud basketball tradition, and that we have excellent players. they know that we will always be a threat. so what if fans of other countries don't expect much or do not fear us, it will be even more sweeter beating them...

[arnoldt]

lebanon should worry about its player's partying so much in the Philippines.

are they allowed to go out here? if they are i am sure they wont have energy left come FIBA Asia.

[daniab]

daniab & khatib , just asking what channel in your home country they will televise FIBA Asia? tnx

LBC channel

[daniab]

lebanon should worry about its player's partying so much in the Philippines.

are they allowed to go out here? if they are i am sure they wont have energy left come FIBA Asia.

What you meant exactly in this post ??

[igorotski]

What you meant exactly in this post ??

he meant that leb players shudnt be hanging out too much like in clubs,bars,parties,etc. cus they wud lose energy.

anyways, i dont think so. those are more of relaxation unless they drink hard and dance 24/7 like hell.lol.