24th FIBA-Asia Championship [Jul 28-Aug 5 Japan]

[jrb0yd]

welcome malas... that's a great analysis... but of course since im a filipino and i believe in the talent of my team, i'll go for my team no matter what... all im sure is that the group A is very tough because all of the teams there have talent and all of them are taking this tournament seriously...

like jordan they even went abroad like our country for further trainings, and then they naturalize rasheim wright... that's just to show how serious they are... its gonna be tough...

China: you're right even if its team b or u20, its still china... china will play for pride... but the big question here is are they ready to play with the big boys?

Iran: to be honest i don't know them that much but all i know is they have improved a lot... the good thing for our team is that our NT coach has been scouting iran since 2005 so i would say when we face them we already have a clue on how they play...

My beloved country, Philippines: in my opinion, no team is more serious in this tournament than the philippines... i know that many teams are taking this tournament seriously but i would say nothing compares to phils... when our suspension was lifted, the team went back to work... two of the giant business entities in the philippines helped shoulder the training of rp... the training alone allocated for the training of our NT is around 1.5 million dollars...the team was formed last march12 and from there they didn't stop their training... they went to US for training and then participated in the fiba-asia club and then within this week they are going to belgrade serbia for further trainings... when my team had a bad tournament in iran which for me is excusable, the team was reviewed by the basketball panel and they find out ways on how to improve the team... that's just show how very serious we are... our battlecry is we believe!

anyway, Goodluck to all! i know there's gonna be a lot of surprises comes the fiba-asia championship... cheers!

[igorotski]

My heart says Philippinnes will make it

But my mind says, Philippines most likely wont.

[daniab]

Great analysis Malas1,
For sure that Asian champ 2007 will be different than asian champ 2005 specially with the come back to many teams like syria,philippine.
My opinion about the draw:
Group A
China ,all of u know whose china and what can do even they play in China Z.
Jordan ,this team is most preferable to go with china to 2nd round.They have 3 or 4 players in the best in asia Rasheim(29.6 per game),Sam doughlas(6.9 assist per game),Ayman Deis(17.7 ppg,14.8 rpg),and many good players!!
Iran,the taller asian team next to china (Hamed Ahadadi 217 cm),Moosa Nabipoor (206 cm),Aidin Nek Khah Bahrami (202),Pooya Tadjik (202) and one of the best point guard in asia Mehdi Kamrani.
Philippine very fast team ,they have one of the best guard in asia Mark Caguiao(22.7 ppg) and one of the best forward in asian cup Danny Seigle(21.5 ppg) and the big guy Asi Taulava (17.5 ppg,10.9 rpg).
They will have a difficulty against China,jordan and Iran bcz those 3 teams are very tall when Filippino players are very short .

Group B
Lebanon will qualified easly to second round,we have the second best player in asia Fadi el Khatib(29.6 ppg), One of the best Center in asia Joe Vogel(211 cm).
Japan also will qualfied easly to next round with all my respect to UAE.

Group C
No comment !! Quatar and Kazakhstan surely to 2nd round

Group D
Very tough group,i think S.korea and Syria will qualified to 2nd round !!

Good luck for all Of you,and hope Lebanon do the dream and take the Olympics ticket !!

[watiwawa]

they may be good individually or tall, i wonder how they look like when they play as a team.

I've seen the 1st RP vs Lebanon friendship game in Cuneta Astrodome, Pasay City, I was there live, not too many were watching. The RP team struggled in the 1st half, and the referees were calling weird calls, it made the American coach of the Lebanese squad to complain frequently. When it's read on the newspapers, it seems like na napakalakas ng RP team, pero ang totoo eh hirap na hirap tayo against Lebanon, nagkataon lang na nakasunod sunod ng 3pts si Ritualo tapos binangko na si El Khatib, he might be injured because he has ice all over his ankle. Notable players than Ritualo was Ranidel de Ocampo for his defense on El Khatib and his offensive rebounds against taller forwards of Lebanon, pati yun mga 3 pts ni Pennisi, lason. I wonder why Filipinos fancy pitting players because they're tall, because they've seen them play good, what matters is will they work well together?

That was the time na narealize ko na talagang ang laki ng difference with maturity of players, si Willie Miller lang halos ang pumapalag nung una, pagdating kay Fadi El Khatib, everybody was a mismatch, even Taulava, Santos and Miller as well as everybody had their fouls each just to stop him, it was Ranidel who did the stopping effort really work.

Watiwawa, with all due respect, the team you've composed based on your taste will not even have a chance against the current RP team, now your saying they have a chance against China B and Lebanon, you won't earn respect for our RP teamif you don't even respect the strong teams in Asia.

Ni wala ngang natural point guard sa line-up mo, and you expect them to win against Lebanon or China B?

Let's be realistic, let's stop speculations na parang pangPlaystation. I agree with you tol Watiwawa, but I think you're event oriented, we Filipinos should be program oriented, it's not who's gonna play, who's gonna be in the line-up, its what we should do with the line-up, how do we prepare the team. We may have resources of tall players, pero how will you group them together, instantly ba? It will take a program for that.

sori p0h sir,, and you say it na pg binuo agad hindi lang talents... sa tingin bro pde rin mangyare un china b....

thnx bro... that team is assembled because they are young w/ talents(except slaughter)... but i think it's safe to say that they are the bright spots of the future of PILIPINAS basketball team... thanks...

TEAM PILIPINAS,, we believe!!!

[saints13]

sori p0h sir,, and you say it na pg binuo agad hindi lang talents... sa tingin bro pde rin mangyare un china b....

thnx bro... that team is assembled because they are young w/ talents(except slaughter)... but i think it's safe to say that they are the bright spots of the future of PILIPINAS basketball team... thanks...

TEAM PILIPINAS,, we believe!!!

that's ok, did i sound rude?

I believe too..

[Malas1]

This year will be the most tough competition in the tournament's history....this chance of qualifying to the olympics comes 1 each 100 years for some teams.....so everyone are getting ready to utilize it.....

[Phantim3dx]

lack of guards in this team... sori...

but havin norwood and ryan reyes two us ncaa players is good ryt???

but still lack of guards....

norwood can bring the ball up with ease, he has done it on several occasion with GMU the year they did really good. he might not be a true pg but he wold eat the green archers alive just like how he and his teammates pretty much ran thru everyone the year gmu did really good in the NCAA. norwood can bring the ball up no problem if he wanted to. his height and other abilities are jsut a bit tad higher than the coach of gmu wanted him playing another spot

[watiwawa]

so, norwood is also familiar w/ a run and gun style lyk the rp team plays.. ayt??

'cause as far as i know GMU is also a small team,,

then the only question remains is...

can norwood play defense??? i think he can, cause in us ncaa, defense is the fundamental of the game...

thanks Phantim3dx for some infos...

[spreekanick]

who'll be the members???

SLAUGHTER-7'0(kung totoo, magaling at FIL-AM tlga)
AGUILAR-6'9
WASHINGTON-6'7
WILLIAMS-6'6
NORWOOD-6'5

bench
devance-6'7
ryan reyes-6'3
jayr reyes-6'8(not xur sa height nia)
eman-6'10
chiu-6'9
a. santos-6'5


i think we have match against china b team... or even lebanon w/ this team.... the only problem is that they are not exposed internationally....

and lyk china's b team... other players of this team can also be elevated to the a team lyk norwood and williiams

c'mon dude..jay-r reyes and samigue eman? they can't even play that well..jay-r reyes can score coz he's big in PBA but internationally?! He'll flap againts lebanon and china..

devance?! - i think he'll be like a BRYAN GAHOL(high expectations but where's he now?)....hehehe no offence but that's what i see..

i haven't seen chiu, japeth(the japeth now..not before), and slaughter plays..
can't judge them...
as for the rest of the team..they are good.


but i do respect your opinion for our TEAM...
i like some of your choices...

[Phantim3dx]

so, norwood is also familiar w/ a run and gun style lyk the rp team plays.. ayt??

'cause as far as i know GMU is also a small team,,

then the only question remains is...

can norwood play defense??? i think he can, cause in us ncaa, defense is the fundamental of the game...

thanks Phantim3dx for some infos...

GMU is a small team when they had success, how would you exactly define run and gun style, because as far as im concerned the offensive scheme of GMU is more of 4 out 1 in the paint, not so much run and gun but setup for outside shooting since guys tend to be bigger than them.
I'm sure norwood could play defense in terms of asian standards, not to belittle asian leagues or level of play; asian leagues and basketball just don't like to bang bodies. now if you said, can norwood play defense, and norwood came from lets say the big 12 or big east conference, then yeah i would say his defensive capabilities would be higher and more physical than average because its embedded in the minds (as i got a quick lesson in pickup games) that u foul to foul hard and to intimidate.

now if u mean run and gun as in fastbreak all the time and dont send extra bodies for the rebound, physically norwood is well enough in conditioning to run up and down the court without much problem. there's obviously a reason why chot is interested in him, although personally i think having him play for the PHIL natl team is pretty much naturalizing him even though he has a small percentage of fil bloodline. to me its kind of a foot in the mouth when we bash qatar is it, for naturalizing players, when the phil basketball program is somehow trying to find a loophole in the system to let norwood play frot he rp team who has small traces of fil bloodline. either ways it would be good for norwood to play for the rp team no matter what, i guess i wish other would bash less about qatar and naturalizing most of their players in the past.

personally norwood would not be able to make it to the NBA, he should go to europe and play more basketball there for a few yrs.

[saints13]

GMU is a small team when they had success, how would you exactly define run and gun style, because as far as im concerned the offensive scheme of GMU is more of 4 out 1 in the paint, not so much run and gun but setup for outside shooting since guys tend to be bigger than them.
I'm sure norwood could play defense in terms of asian standards, not to belittle asian leagues or level of play; asian leagues and basketball just don't like to bang bodies. now if you said, can norwood play defense, and norwood came from lets say the big 12 or big east conference, then yeah i would say his defensive capabilities would be higher and more physical than average because its embedded in the minds (as i got a quick lesson in pickup games) that u foul to foul hard and to intimidate.

now if u mean run and gun as in fastbreak all the time and dont send extra bodies for the rebound, physically norwood is well enough in conditioning to run up and down the court without much problem. there's obviously a reason why chot is interested in him, although personally i think having him play for the PHIL natl team is pretty much naturalizing him even though he has a small percentage of fil bloodline. to me its kind of a foot in the mouth when we bash qatar is it, for naturalizing players, when the phil basketball program is somehow trying to find a loophole in the system to let norwood play frot he rp team who has small traces of fil bloodline. either ways it would be good for norwood to play for the rp team no matter what, i guess i wish other would bash less about qatar and naturalizing most of their players in the past.

personally norwood would not be able to make it to the NBA, he should go to europe and play more basketball there for a few yrs.

yes, Philippines is the mother of naturalizing players we can't blame others to follow...we should not be envious of other countries' success just like Qatar and Lebanon...and now Jordan and Syria...pare-parehas naman tayong nag-iimport ng players eh..hehehe

[asapa11]

yes, Philippines is the mother of naturalizing players we can't blame others to follow...we should not be envious of other countries' success just like Qatar and Lebanon...and now Jordan and Syria...pare-parehas naman tayong nag-iimport ng players eh..hehehe

i believe the Philippines doesnt have a single naturalized player.

[donmar]

i believe the Philippines doesnt have a single naturalized player.

I agree... we don't have naturalized players... the last naturalized players we have was Dennis Still, Jeff Moore and Arthur Engelland... and that was back in the mid-80s

[reamily]

SLAUGHTER-7'0(English please)
AGUILAR-6'9
(WASHINGTON-6'7-a team)
(WILLIAMS-6'6-a team)
(NORWOOD-6'5-a team)
devance-6'7
intal 6'4
cabagnot-6'1

bench
ryan reyes-6'3
jayr reyes-6'8(not ENGLISH please)
eman-6'10
chiu-6'9
a. santos-6'5-
canaleta 6'6
cardona-6'1
fonacier6'2

probably small English please rp team younger version

[saints13]

I agree... we don't have naturalized players... the last naturalized players we have was Dennis Still, Jeff Moore and Arthur Engelland... and that was back in the mid-80s

that's what i meant..
we were the 1st one to capitalize on that..
the 1985 Ron Jacobs Asian Championship team in Kuala Lumpur that beaten China in the finals..
I wasn't one year old back then, my father said that the naturalized players did most of the damage for China...
I disagree that the Philippines doesn't have naturalized players..
we're owning too much foreign-bred players who claim Filipino roots..
English please...