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  • Originally posted by karim
    these are my predictions considering leb will send a full strenth team which it looks like its gonna happen , the same team as 2005 except Roy samaha(204) in the place of Paul Khoury(206).....

    Group A:China,Jordan(i think philippines can play good games against leb. only ....im sorry but ur losing all the other games even against kazakhaztan)
    Group B:Lebanon,Japan(this 1 is an easy call)
    Group C:Qatar,Kazakhaztan(no comment)
    Group D:Korea,Taiwan(Syria has a good chance too)

    Second Round given this scenario

    Group A:Jordan,Lebanon,Kazakhaztan.Korea(i think Lebanon will beat Jordan since we beat them the last 4 times in last 2 years so we have this confidence edge over them especially them not having sam to help them and Jordan will edge Korea and come in 2nd)
    Group B:China,Japan,Qatar,Taiwan(very tough group but i think the imports(qatar)can manage to win and China will come in 2nd

    Semis:Leb will win China in a close game , same goes for Qatar over Jordan

    Final:If lebanon can get to protect the qatari offensive rebounds we have a good chance much like in the semis of 2005....but qatar have naturalized 2 centers since than....i would really be pissed if lebanon dont go to the olympics cuz of a team which shouldnt be here cuz of naturalizing players and changing their names(qatar)....if lebanon do go out i prefer it would be to any1 else.......
    Its very hard to predict this way..we have 7 strong teams and they all have a chance..still pissed about this draw!!

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    • China B, Jordan, Iran.

      China B.

      China B is yet to prove their prowess in internationally basketball. Young and lack of experience will surely be the negative factors for this team. Haven't seen them played because haven't been seen them in international competitions. My overall rating for this team is 6.

      Jordan

      The last time we played against this team was in Brunei Cup in August 2006. And the Jordan All Stars end up with a whooping 107-67, a 40 points defeat from Coach Chot's boys. Guess we should know the reason now why they considered as being grouped among the toughest in the Tourney after the draw last June 6. They said they have some new players with naturalized American Rashiem Wright. Surely thet have beefed up their lineup but i don't think it will make a very big difference. I i've noticed too that they have a totaly different lineup compared to the team who played in Brunei last year. Nevertheless, My rating, 7.

      Iran

      Who could forget that fateful days for RP Team in Tehran?

      The last time i remember we've beaten this team is in 2005. I used to see Rp Team beating tthe Iranians with a double Digit margin. But it was another story in Tehran, where RP team was beaten with a margin of 13 in the opening game. If Iran can only beat Philippines with a 13 point margin considering having big imports on their side, I can easily say that we can beat them again like we used to do before. A 13 point margin doesn't say anything especially when you are playing with imports. So I will give this team a rate of 6.

      So I am optomistic that Philippines will top the Group A and move on to quarterfinals together with Jordan or Iran but not China B.

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      • Originally posted by karim
        these are my predictions considering leb will send a full strenth team which it looks like its gonna happen , the same team as 2005 except Roy samaha(204) in the place of Paul Khoury(206).....

        Group A:China,Jordan(i think philippines can play good games against leb. only ....im sorry but ur losing all the other games even against kazakhaztan)
        Group B:Lebanon,Japan(this 1 is an easy call)
        Group C:Qatar,Kazakhaztan(no comment)
        Group D:Korea,Taiwan(Syria has a good chance too)

        Second Round given this scenario

        Group A:Jordan,Lebanon,Kazakhaztan.Korea(i think Lebanon will beat Jordan since we beat them the last 4 times in last 2 years so we have this confidence edge over them especially them not having sam to help them and Jordan will edge Korea and come in 2nd)
        Group B:China,Japan,Qatar,Taiwan(very tough group but i think the imports(qatar)can manage to win and China will come in 2nd

        Semis:Leb will win China in a close game , same goes for Qatar over Jordan

        Final:If lebanon can get to protect the qatari offensive rebounds we have a good chance much like in the semis of 2005....but qatar have naturalized 2 centers since than....i would really be pissed if lebanon dont go to the olympics cuz of a team which shouldnt be here cuz of naturalizing players and changing their names(qatar)....if lebanon do go out i prefer it would be to any1 else.......
        that's what u think but sorry to disappoint u that's not gonna happen... what u saw with our team is not exactly the same team that you are going to see comes the fiba-asia champs... even when we hit 15 3pt shots against your blue stars, theres still a lot of things that our team can offer... you'll see a more rejuvenate and more focus rp team... our training is still ongoing, some players might still be replaced in the lineup, and 3 of the former National team coaches of RP in asian games will join our coaching staff... 4 heads are better than 1...

        and as far as my prediction with regards to lebanon, i think they will do good but will fell short in the later rounds... i think your one month preparation is not enough... the question here is 'is the 1month preparation of your team enough? enough to beat teams that have been practicing for months? like rp and jordan which both went abroad for further trainings... you have a new coach and it takes time before you get use to the style of a new coach... the team that is more prepared and focus has the huge chance of qualifying...

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        • Originally posted by vladski
          China B, Jordan, Iran.

          China B.

          China B is yet to prove their prowess in internationally basketball. Young and lack of experience will surely be the negative factors for this team. Haven't seen them played because haven't been seen them in international competitions. My overall rating for this team is 6.

          Jordan

          The last time we played against this team was in Brunei Cup in August 2006. And the Jordan All Stars end up with a whooping 107-67, a 40 points defeat from Coach Chot's boys. Guess we should know the reason now why they considered as being grouped among the toughest in the Tourney after the draw last June 6. They said they have some new players with naturalized American Rashiem Wright. Surely thet have beefed up their lineup but i don't think it will make a very big difference. I i've noticed too that they have a totaly different lineup compared to the team who played in Brunei last year. Nevertheless, My rating, 7.

          Iran

          Who could forget that fateful days for RP Team in Tehran?

          The last time i remember we've beaten this team is in 2005. I used to see Rp Team beating tthe Iranians with a double Digit margin. But it was another story in Tehran, where RP team was beaten with a margin of 13 in the opening game. If Iran can only beat Philippines with a 13 point margin considering having big imports on their side, I can easily say that we can beat them again like we used to do before. A 13 point margin doesn't say anything especially when you are playing with imports. So I will give this team a rate of 6.

          So I am optomistic that Philippines will top the Group A and move on to quarterfinals together with Jordan or Iran but not China B.
          .


          WRong infos about jordan NT the team that played in brunai isnt the first team that was under 18 years with 2 players from first team el khas and najjar..just for correction..here u can see the roster http://www.bruneicup.com/jordan.htm

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          • Originally posted by jrb0yd
            that's what u think but sorry to disappoint u that's not gonna happen... what u saw with our team is not exactly the same team that you are going to see comes the fiba-asia champs... even when we hit 15 3pt shots against your blue stars, theres still a lot of things that our team can offer... you'll see a more rejuvenate and more focus rp team... our training is still ongoing, some players might still be replaced in the lineup, and 3 of the former National team coaches of RP in asian games will join our coaching staff... 4 heads are better than 1...

            and as far as my prediction with regards to lebanon, i think they will do good but will fell short in the later rounds... i think your one month preparation is not enough... the question here is 'is the 1month preparation of your team enough? enough to beat teams that have been practicing for months? like rp and jordan which both went abroad for further trainings... you have a new coach and it takes time before you get use to the style of a new coach... the team that is more prepared and focus has the huge chance of qualifying...
            No lebanon always appoints a coach and starts training 2 weeks in advance.......this happened in 2001 and 2005 and we were able to get a silver medal against teams who stayed months training....so i think 1 month is more than enough time for our country

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            • Originally posted by karim
              No lebanon always appoints a coach and starts training 2 weeks in advance.......this happened in 2001 and 2005 and we were able to get a silver medal against teams who stayed months training....so i think 1 month is more than enough time for our country
              well we are going to see how far they go... 2001 and 2005 are different to 2007 in terms of the talent of the other teams...
              Last edited by jrb0yd; 06-07-2007, 11:44 AM.

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              • Originally posted by WIZARD
                First of all WABA tourney isnt done yet and beside jordan iran lebanon syria iran there is yeman and palestine playing??? some how come they made the draw already??? what if palestine and yeman can make it???this is unprofi from the asian fed !!!how come they rush the results?? and show no respect to other teams something else each country should be represented in japan for the draw and simply we didnt know about it the jordanian fed knew about the drew late night from some sport forums!!!and about media covarage!!! well there was no 1 even at fibasia site and fiba site there is nothing so i think this draw is pice of crap and i heard the jordanian fed will proteset to the fiba soon
                What are you talking about??? The field of qualifiers for this FIBA-Asia has been confirmed since last year except for Middle Asia and South East Asia. So any league in Asia (except the two mentioned) that is happening right now has no bearing to the 2007 FIBA-Asia. If Palestine or Yemen wants to qualify, they had their chances last year.

                FIBA can be unfair but not on purpose but by technicality due to previous policies. You have to read the papers, there was indeed media coverage but FIBA as always is very slow to leak the news from their site.

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                • Originally posted by WIZARD
                  .


                  WRong infos about jordan NT the team that played in brunai isnt the first team that was under 18 years with 2 players from first team el khas and najjar..just for correction..here u can see the roster http://www.bruneicup.com/jordan.htm

                  Wizard, as you want to be called, if you are reading my postings, especially about Jordanian Team, I said that a totally different lineup is heading for Tokushima. I was very specific about this one. I know that it was a different team playing in Brunei cup. So next time you call out for wrong info, please read the thread very carefully.

                  Thanks.

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                  • sir vladski

                    do you think our NT are ready.... ??? because dont have any idea here in dubai and i never seen them play in one team i know they are talented specially (danny seigle) idol but how about the others?? and if this new fil am will be added to the rp team do you think it will help a lot?? where is rudy h. how about eric m. they are both have the exp for playing into this tournament... and we are having many shooters but they are not shooting well in there game. and who will stand thier leader.... but i still i know we will past group A for sure...

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                    • the RP team is always at their best, whenever they are doubted or counted out.
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                      • did you say BTV will cover the games? how can one access this

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                        • Jordan passes Cyprus's 1st test

                          Rasheim<br>Wright<br>
                          Rasheim
                          Wright


                          by Mohammed Malas - May 26, 2007
                          Rasheim Wright (193-G-81, agency: Rose Professional Mngmnt, college: District of Columbia) scored 28 points to lead Jordan men national team to win over Cyprus 79-64 today in their 1st friendly game in Prince Hamza Hall in Amman, Jordan.

                          Rasheim Wright (193-G-81, agency: Rose Professional Mngmnt, college: District of Columbia) scored 28 points to lead Jordan men national team to win over Cyprus 79-64 today in their 1st friendly game in Prince Hamza Hall in Amman, Jordan.

                          Both NT's coaches gave the chance to all their players to play in the game, Jordan seized a 22-16 lead at the end of the first period and 48-34 at halftime depending on abilities of Wright, Wesam Sous, Fadel Najjar with both Dshamal Maitah and Ayman Dies under the basket adding to the big help from Zaid Al Khas and Eyad Abdeen.

                          From the other hand, Cyprots played a very good game esspecially from Panagiotis Trisokkas, Grigoris Pantouris (190-G/F-82, agency: Globalsports/Globalevents) and Alexis Liatsos and tried their best to be tough oponnents but organization and experience were on the other team's side to win the game at the end with 15 points lead.

                          Jordan 79 - Cyprus 64 (Q's: 22- 16 , 48 -34, 68-48 & 79-64)
                          - Jordan's scorers:
                          11 - Wesam Sous 9 pts
                          4 - Fadel Najjar
                          5 - Rasheim Wright 28 pts
                          9 - Enver Soobzokov 3 pts
                          12 - Eyad Abdeen 9 pts
                          7 - Moussa Al Awadi 2 pts
                          8 - Issa Kamel
                          6 - Zeid Abbas 2 pts
                          10 - Moussa Basheer 2 pts
                          14 - Dshamal Maitah 2 pts
                          15 - Ayman Dies 12 pts
                          13 - Zaid Al Khas 10 pts
                          - Cyprus's scorers:
                          7 - Giorgos Anastasiadis 3 pts
                          13 - Panagiotis Trisokkas 14 pts
                          8 - Michalis Kounounis 4 pts
                          12 - Grigoris Pantouris 15 pts
                          11 - Darrin Fowlkes
                          15 - GiorgosTheocharidis 2 pts
                          5 - Panayiotis Serdaris 4 pts
                          14 - Dimitris Mouchtaris 2 pts
                          4 - Panayiotis Giannas 4 pts
                          6 - Aris Koronidis 4 pts
                          0 - Alexis Liatsos 11 pts
                          9 - Giorgos Neofitou
                          10 - Andreas Sixopoulos 1 pts

                          Both NT's will meet again tomorrow in the same court at 8:30 PM


                          hey wizard, I bet this answers everything. we already know how the jordanian NT play, oooopppss, sorry, i mean Rasheim Wright-Jordan NT play.

                          Originally posted by WIZARD
                          Well pal i disagree about rashiem thing first of all he didnt play yet any international game with us so u cant tell really the diiference he will make..with outhim in asiad doha we done fine and without our main PG Sam
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                          • Originally posted by jawo
                            What are you talking about??? The field of qualifiers for this FIBA-Asia has been confirmed since last year except for Middle Asia and South East Asia. So any league in Asia (except the two mentioned) that is happening right now has no bearing to the 2007 FIBA-Asia. If Palestine or Yemen wants to qualify, they had their chances last year.

                            FIBA can be unfair but not on purpose but by technicality due to previous policies. You have to read the papers, there was indeed media coverage but FIBA as always is very slow to leak the news from their site.
                            dude!!! what r u talking about??????WABA qualify to asia 2007???what does that has to do with last year???last year there was no waba man!!! waba will be in 12 days!!!!! got it??

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                            • Originally posted by SkyWalker
                              Jordan passes Cyprus's 1st test

                              Rasheim<br>Wright<br>
                              Rasheim
                              Wright


                              by Mohammed Malas - May 26, 2007
                              Rasheim Wright (193-G-81, agency: Rose Professional Mngmnt, college: District of Columbia) scored 28 points to lead Jordan men national team to win over Cyprus 79-64 today in their 1st friendly game in Prince Hamza Hall in Amman, Jordan.

                              Rasheim Wright (193-G-81, agency: Rose Professional Mngmnt, college: District of Columbia) scored 28 points to lead Jordan men national team to win over Cyprus 79-64 today in their 1st friendly game in Prince Hamza Hall in Amman, Jordan.

                              Both NT's coaches gave the chance to all their players to play in the game, Jordan seized a 22-16 lead at the end of the first period and 48-34 at halftime depending on abilities of Wright, Wesam Sous, Fadel Najjar with both Dshamal Maitah and Ayman Dies under the basket adding to the big help from Zaid Al Khas and Eyad Abdeen.

                              From the other hand, Cyprots played a very good game esspecially from Panagiotis Trisokkas, Grigoris Pantouris (190-G/F-82, agency: Globalsports/Globalevents) and Alexis Liatsos and tried their best to be tough oponnents but organization and experience were on the other team's side to win the game at the end with 15 points lead.

                              Jordan 79 - Cyprus 64 (Q's: 22- 16 , 48 -34, 68-48 & 79-64)
                              - Jordan's scorers:
                              11 - Wesam Sous 9 pts
                              4 - Fadel Najjar
                              5 - Rasheim Wright 28 pts
                              9 - Enver Soobzokov 3 pts
                              12 - Eyad Abdeen 9 pts
                              7 - Moussa Al Awadi 2 pts
                              8 - Issa Kamel
                              6 - Zeid Abbas 2 pts
                              10 - Moussa Basheer 2 pts
                              14 - Dshamal Maitah 2 pts
                              15 - Ayman Dies 12 pts
                              13 - Zaid Al Khas 10 pts
                              - Cyprus's scorers:
                              7 - Giorgos Anastasiadis 3 pts
                              13 - Panagiotis Trisokkas 14 pts
                              8 - Michalis Kounounis 4 pts
                              12 - Grigoris Pantouris 15 pts
                              11 - Darrin Fowlkes
                              15 - GiorgosTheocharidis 2 pts
                              5 - Panayiotis Serdaris 4 pts
                              14 - Dimitris Mouchtaris 2 pts
                              4 - Panayiotis Giannas 4 pts
                              6 - Aris Koronidis 4 pts
                              0 - Alexis Liatsos 11 pts
                              9 - Giorgos Neofitou
                              10 - Andreas Sixopoulos 1 pts

                              Both NT's will meet again tomorrow in the same court at 8:30 PM


                              hey wizard, I bet this answers everything. we already know how the jordanian NT play, oooopppss, sorry, i mean Rasheim Wright-Jordan NT play.
                              so what??? what does that mean ???rashiem wasnt playing with us in doha and we still maneged to do great..as for the game u dont know what happened that was the first game for rashiem and he played the whole game while the others played 20 mts max and as u see all players played..we have other scorers than rashiem zeid al khas our center was our scorer in asiad doha with 20 pts/game Sam daghlas is a scorer and ayman deis..got it??

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                              • Originally posted by vladski
                                Wizard, as you want to be called, if you are reading my postings, especially about Jordanian Team, I said that a totally different lineup is heading for Tokushima. I was very specific about this one. I know that it was a different team playing in Brunei cup. So next time you call out for wrong info, please read the thread very carefully.

                                Thanks.
                                LOL ok man my bad no hard feelings

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