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    New coach for China, Aleksandar Djordjevic, recently named his 18-men roster. Half of the team were basically mainstays from previous generations, but a couple of names are considered very surprising. Basically very average CBA players but who fit Djordjevic's criteria. Sun Minghui is not selected and it's not clear if it's due to injury.

    Basically Djordjevic likes:

    Tall point guards. Zhao Jiwei at 6'1'' is the only short guard on the team, probably to provide veteran ballhandling, every other guard is at least 6'3''.

    Tall wing players, at least 6'7'' or 6'8'', who can play defense and shoot the 3.

    He values defensive intensity over scoring ability. For guards, he doesn't care too much about skinny guys who can jump, but for rim protectors, he picked a couple skinny guys who can jump.

    Honestly, CBA scoring means very little internationally.

    Actually I won't be surprised if he cuts Wang Zhelin, Guo Ailun, Zhao Jiwei and Zhou Peng for the Worlds. It's time to inject some fresh blood into this sorry team
    aim low, score high

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    Do you mind posting the 18 man roster? I could not find it anywhere. Thanks!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sinobball View Post
      New coach for China, Aleksandar Djordjevic, recently named his 18-men roster. Half of the team were basically mainstays from previous generations, but a couple of names are considered very surprising. Basically very average CBA players but who fit Djordjevic's criteria. Sun Minghui is not selected and it's not clear if it's due to injury.

      Basically Djordjevic likes:

      Tall point guards. Zhao Jiwei at 6'1'' is the only short guard on the team, probably to provide veteran ballhandling, every other guard is at least 6'3''.

      Tall wing players, at least 6'7'' or 6'8'', who can play defense and shoot the 3.

      He values defensive intensity over scoring ability. For guards, he doesn't care too much about skinny guys who can jump, but for rim protectors, he picked a couple skinny guys who can jump.

      Honestly, CBA scoring means very little internationally.

      Actually I won't be surprised if he cuts Wang Zhelin, Guo Ailun, Zhao Jiwei and Zhou Peng for the Worlds. It's time to inject some fresh blood into this sorry team
      Will China continue their plan to hire naturalized player? It's already a hot debate in Chinese social media sites today....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Btlovd View Post
        Do you mind posting the 18 man roster? I could not find it anywhere. Thanks!
        MIES (Switzerland) - The sixth and final window of the Asian Qualifiers is right around the corner and with that, national federations from competing nations have begun to announce player rosters.


        Regarding naturalization I haven't seen any information, maybe you know more than me since you can read Chinese social media sites...
        aim low, score high

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        • #5
          Scrimmage game:

          China 108:67 Nanjing Monkey Kings (CBA)
          China: Zhang Zhenlin 20p (8/9FG)
          Nanjing: QJ Peterson 15p 4a 4s

          CNT played 14 players out of the 18 (DNP: Wu Qian, Zhu Mingzhen, Jiao Boqiao, Cui Xiaolong), Nanjing had all players.
          aim low, score high

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          • #6
            Scrimmage game:

            China 81:64 Shanghai Sharks (CBA)
            China: Guo Ailun 10p 3a
            Shanghai: Eric Bledsoe 24p 7r 6a

            Wang Zhelin played for Shanghai instead of CNT this game.

            Rookie Cui Yongxi became a starter this game. Cui is a skinny and athletic guy who plays very hard, but he's very raw.

            So China's starting 5:
            PG: Zhao Jiwei 183
            SF: Cui Yongxi 199
            SF/PF: Zhang Zhenlin 205
            SF/PF: Zhou Peng 206
            PF/C: Zhou Qi 216

            Average height = 202cm = 6'8''
            aim low, score high

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            • #7
              Cui Xiaolong and Zhu Mingzhen have been cut.

              Teenager Cui Yongxi has been the biggest surprise of the year, from "Who?" to starting on the national team in two weeks.

              Highlight reel from his 3-month professional career:


              As you can see, not a lot of skills (there's a bad travel) but a freak... a rim protector at the 2 position, wow

              I have no doubts of his age, because in 2019 he looked like this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BtG9dWig...9-0a15767cc8c0
              Last edited by sinobball; 02-19-2023, 04:04 AM.
              aim low, score high

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              • #8
                Djordjevic's lackluster debut is somewhat saved by Cui Yongxi's brilliance in Game 2. This kid will be a really good player down the road but he has a lot to work on. Looked nervous as fuck in Game 1, but in Game 2 he showed what he could do. Terrific defender (although he got lost on a couple of occasions) and instincts, even has good court vision although his ball handling is subpar. He still made many mistakes especially on offense but it's expected, the most important thing was that he was on the floor when the game was close AND he made plays. Very impressive

                Likely won't be called up again: Zhu Xuhang and Cheng Shuaipeng. Zhu is a 30-year-old "rookie" who can't offer anything other than rebounds and "hustle", and he got plenty of chances. Cheng didn't play much but he's likewise not special. Jiao Boqiao (21 y/o) and Zeng Fanbo (20 y/o) will get more chances but they don't look ready (especially Zeng, Jiao just sat on the bench.), but I think they will both become NT-calibre if they stay healthy, both guys have very good potential.

                Biggest problem: No point guard besides Zhao Jiwei. Some guards can't even dribble. If Guo Haowen recovers from his broken ankle surgery in time for the Worlds, I think he will be an important player. I think Djordjevic is probably also realizing that he needs to get some guards that can shoot to complement his core. Also Guo Ailun looks like he should be cut or relegated to the end of bench.

                Fucking Zhou Qi is shooting 40% from FTs in BOTH games. Do they not practice FTs in Australia? Anyway he looked terrible for a star but there's nobody better.
                Last edited by sinobball; 02-26-2023, 06:33 AM.
                aim low, score high

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sinobball View Post
                  MIES (Switzerland) - The sixth and final window of the Asian Qualifiers is right around the corner and with that, national federations from competing nations have begun to announce player rosters.


                  Regarding naturalization I haven't seen any information, maybe you know more than me since you can read Chinese social media sites...
                  It's a hot debate in Chinese social media sites that China are finally tapping NP for future FIBA competitions... Honestly, That current line up have no chance vs Europeans and Americas, even teams like South Sudan will give Chinese a big headache... A NP guard will give Chinese guard a new dimension to this lackluster performance 

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                  • #10
                    You have cui yongxi who has potential to be a good rotational player for your nt this year.. for us we do have mason amos, a 18 year old "finished product"(if you knew what I mean a player like I say Kiefer Ravena who looks to be past his prime at 28) but he is a bucket.. and might be all enough to be in the team for a long long time..
                    Last edited by reamily; 02-28-2023, 04:02 AM.
                    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                      It's a hot debate in Chinese social media sites that China are finally tapping NP for future FIBA competitions... Honestly, That current line up have no chance vs Europeans and Americas, even teams like South Sudan will give Chinese a big headache... A NP guard will give Chinese guard a new dimension to this lackluster performance¬
                      Stop saying things like "finally" when you can't provide a NP's name. It's like "I'm finally getting married" "To whom?" "I don't know".

                      Even if there were a NP there is no chance the team will come out of the group. Japan got a NP and 2 NBA players and they lost every Olympic game by like 20 points, at home. What's the point?
                      aim low, score high

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sinobball View Post
                        Stop saying things like "finally" when you can't provide a NP's name. It's like "I'm finally getting married" "To whom?" "I don't know".

                        Even if there were a NP there is no chance the team will come out of the group. Japan got a NP and 2 NBA players and they lost every Olympic game by like 20 points, at home. What's the point?
                        Actually it is bro... Although Chinese federation wants to tap a guy who is willing to stay in China, give up his passport and other considerations... There are some names already... 

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