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Marcos gained power by a staged NPA attack on Enrile and co. He was corrupt. He allowed himself and his cronies to gain much wealth without showing anything for it. He had ambitious plans but due to a combination of corruption and mismanagement failed. Almost all of the GOCCs he started were losing money even during his time. Eventually they had to be shutdown or sold off. I could forgive the corruption if he had something to show for it but he didnt. He left our country worse off. But the worst was his human rights record. I know many people who were picked up and jailed just because they went to a party that was also attended by a political suspect. A lady who was jailed was sexually abused. Back then you had to find your loved ones within 10 days or they will disappear forever. The guy was power hungry. He did not blink on imprisoning, torturing or killing his critics or those associated with them. You couldnt even criticize his family without fearing for your life. You were lucky if you didnt mind the propaganda and the government agents but if you protested chances are youll get jailed or worst.
Duterte for me is very wrong on two parts. One is on killing criminals. Look how Isko makes a show of presenting suspects alive and not dead. Better be shown on camera alive than a cadaver. Second, is his kowtowing to China. I agree you have to be practical but at the same time he should think if it is worth it. Giving up our territory is a no no. I'm with Carpio on this. Authentic historical records show that China has no right to their 9 meter red line. They just have the big guns and boats. We can politically protest their intrusions while supporting economic imvestments from them if they are still willing. Lastly, he should restrict the visas of these guys. Chinese workers are engulfing Manila and keeping condominium rates high with the government only getting barya in tax payments. Only SM, DD and the Chinese POGO owners are getting rich. Filipino employees are paying taxes while the Chinese workers are tax free. Not all investments are good. If they dont give anything back to the Filipino people except higher property rates they should be restricted.
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Originally posted by astigram04How did you know na hindi lumobo? Hawak mo ba ang accounting Ng assets nila? You aren't even aware that was Marcos was even financially helping out ninoy while he was getting treatment in Chicago? Are you even aware that they were supposedly already bankrupt because the loan agreement they entered with magsaysay (the one which the cojuancos used to purchase more land) had that stipulation that the land will be distributed to the farmers after 50 years? You didn't know that, do you? And you call then less wvil?
As I've said, I honestly believe that the Aquinos aren't clean at all. They also have their dark side. But the Aquinos are definitely less evil than Ferdinand & Imelda Marcos.
Bro, I have met & heard the words of people who are Marcos loyalists & you obviously sounded like one."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by astigram04I'll be busy for a while but I'm anticipating some of the answers and questions to be thrown.
First, if you read those verdicts (a lot of which were later on reversed, some still on appeal), the conviction were based on "Marcos couldn't have earned that large fortune" , some would even cite his income taxes.
Im not sure if this is the right term but there was this they call "transcription" period for claimants for the WW2 loots. It was set at 50 years. After that period, whoever possesses it owns it by default. That's why Marcos couldn't just declare those possessions.
Marcos was actually wanting to give this back to tje people and had negotiations with cory's emissaries but the kamag anak incorporated wanted it for themselves. That's how greedy that family is. Cory even refused to operate the nuclear power plant despite the Filipinos suffering and the economy suffering from those Nationwide blackouts.
Kung may darkest years man, hnd Yan nung martial law kundi panahon ng reyna Ng brownout.
Bro, wake up. You're being blinded by your biases. Your rationale & discernment are obviously impaired by your biases."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by astigram04I'll be busy for a while but I'm anticipating some of the answers and questions to be thrown.
First, if you read those verdicts (a lot of which were later on reversed, some still on appeal), the conviction were based on "Marcos couldn't have earned that large fortune" , some would even cite his income taxes.
Im not sure if this is the right term but there was this they call "transcription" period for claimants for the WW2 loots. It was set at 50 years. After that period, whoever possesses it owns it by default. That's why Marcos couldn't just declare those possessions.
Marcos was actually wanting to give this back to tje people and had negotiations with cory's emissaries but the kamag anak incorporated wanted it for themselves. That's how greedy that family is. Cory even refused to operate the nuclear power plant despite the Filipinos suffering and the economy suffering from those Nationwide blackouts.
Kung may darkest years man, hnd Yan nung martial law kundi panahon ng reyna Ng brownout.
Do you seriously believe that?
Kaya pala hanggang ngayon grabe opposition nina Imelda, Bongbong at Imee sa pag-sasauli ng Marcos ill-gotten wealth sa Philippine government.
Bro, kung ikaw nabubulagan ka dahil sa mga biases mo, please spare us from your delusion."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by astigram04The first paragraph you can just copy and paste to your browser coz I quoted that verbatim. A more independent and detailed article I recommend is in this link which I posted earlier
https://larouchepub.com/other/2004/s...lipp_coup.html
Beside he isn't a economist. Do you have any other subject matter expert and has atleast a Master in international economics.
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Originally posted by astigram04Natural disasters andyan pero Yung man-made disaster na economic policies? Yung TRAIN at rice tarification law Ng administration Alam mo ba kng gano kabigat ang epekto Nyan sa magsasaka? Hnd ako natatawa dahil dyan kundi sa mga sinabi mo na kala mo napakaganda ng nagawa ni Duterte. May maliit na sakahan pa kami dto sa bulacan Kaya Alam ko ang bigat Ng pasanin na Yan. Something na pikit mata lng ang mga fanatico. TRAIN law as if hnd pa patong patong any mga pabigat na buwis mula EVAT hanggang EPIRA. Panahon ni Marcos na minumura mura nyo kakaunti lng at minimal ang taxes pero kabikabila aang infrastructures. Bkt hnd ang sectarian businesses ang patawan Ng buwis? Takot ba sa simbahan ang duterte?
and yes i agree sectarian business need to pay taxes too!Last edited by GoPilipinas; 08-08-2019, 04:35 AM.
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Politics is a pr game from Duterte to Isko Moreno, who s now building a brand of being an action man without the killing part..all bout branding
As for the policy implementation, its not a one man show, its the sponsors( now the villars, smc, davao group, chinese) are the financiers, and still the cabinet are calling the x and O'sTo becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.
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I'm curious to know what Filipino IBNers think of Reddit Philippines.
I go to that subreddit from time to time and, honestly, the things they post about politics always make me cringe. Puro reklamo na lang ang mga posts. It's become an echo-chamber for anti-Duterte Pinoys and it's annoying as fuck. I'm not even a Duterte supporter but that sub is just insufferable.GILAS WISHLIST:
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Bros, how do you find Bato Dela Rosa's statement saying rape & murder convict Antonio Sanchez deserves a second chance in life.
I find such statement extremely ridiculous, stupid & kabobohan.
Here is a man who strongly pushes for the revival of the death penalty law, yet thinks that a hardened criminal like Sanchez, convicted of heinous crimes, would deserve a 2nd chance of life. I wonder if Bato ever thought of giving those dead poor drug poseurs of operation tokhang second chance of life. Kung yung anak kaya ni Bato ang ma rape, would he be talking of giving the suspect a second chance in life? Its a shame for a senator to make such statement. I just find it kabobohan. This actually reflects the mentality of Bato Dela Rosa.
Shame on you Bato."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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You are hilarious.
Indonesia is aggressively defending their rights in the WPS and China did not even fire a single “watusi”
So what war are you talking about. I’m thinking “bayad” ang government natin courtesy of China..but that is just speculation but we will never know.. So I always keep an open mind. Our government should enforce it but everything about China ang bait ni Duterte even the current issue now, unfair sa China if we ban them. How about being fair for your fellow filipinos Duterte.
With the VFA about to be terminated because of the over reaction of Duterte dahil sa visa ni Bato will it affect out Mutual Defense Treaty?
Originally posted by astigram04Pare it's not a tribunal ruling but an arbitrary one. Naglitis Ng Wala tayong kalaban because the chinks never honored that. Nanalo tayo sa arbitrary, masyado nmng nakakahiya kng wlng kalaban sina sell Rosario sa hearing tapos natalo pa. Pero cg congratulations nanalo tayo, ngayon ang tanong, who enforces that? The UN will not even life a finger there kht mag iiyak ka in. Ang US? you expect them to risk a war just for you? Pwd kng sila ang beneficiary tapos ikaw din ang mapipinsala. Gusto nyo Yan? How about, we enforce that ruling, ano, sama kayo? Isn't it obvious, iba ang ginagawa Ng kaliwant kamay sa kanang kamay. Ilan ang secret trips ni trillanes? What did we get? We lost Scarborough. And then out of zamabales soils the Chinese built their artificial islands tapos kayo dito aquino less evil? Magpapatalo ko sa usapang basketball pero sa kamangmangang lesser evil Aquino, no way.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostBros, how do you find Bato Dela Rosa's statement saying rape & murder convict Antonio Sanchez deserves a second chance in life.
I find such statement extremely ridiculous, stupid & kabobohan.
Here is a man who strongly pushes for the revival of the death penalty law, yet thinks that a hardened criminal like Sanchez, convicted of heinous crimes, would deserve a 2nd chance of life. I wonder if Bato ever thought of giving those dead poor drug poseurs of operation tokhang second chance of life. Kung yung anak kaya ni Bato ang ma rape, would he be talking of giving the suspect a second chance in life? Its a shame for a senator to make such statement. I just find it kabobohan. This actually reflects the mentality of Bato Dela Rosa.
Shame on you Bato.
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