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Originally posted by b3lowzro View Posti'd like to feed him to dogs , hey the Azkals appeared in the pre game ceremonies of PBA today, guess who was with the team?
Mr. MVP has pledge to support the national football team. It's about time for the big corporations to do their part.Follow my blogs and tweets. http://dxjayrocksnotes.blogspot.com/ and https://twitter.com/dxjayrock
Road To Rio 2016.
Kwentong Gilas ~ Gilas Serye. LMAO!!!
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#Azkals being honored at the Big dome! Manny Pangilinan pledged 1 million to support the team! http://yfrog.com/h4r8fwjFollow my blogs and tweets. http://dxjayrocksnotes.blogspot.com/ and https://twitter.com/dxjayrock
Road To Rio 2016.
Kwentong Gilas ~ Gilas Serye. LMAO!!!
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Originally posted by b3lowzro View Postill ask jowee and mon of team manila if ever they go online
I wanna have that kit. Lol.Follow my blogs and tweets. http://dxjayrocksnotes.blogspot.com/ and https://twitter.com/dxjayrock
Road To Rio 2016.
Kwentong Gilas ~ Gilas Serye. LMAO!!!
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Originally posted by obama2008 View Post
patriciahizon Patricia Hizon
#Azkals being honored at the Big dome! Manny Pangilinan pledged 1 million to support the team! http://yfrog.com/h4r8fwj
Nice one MVP! Most Valuable Pinancier.. Bwahahaha..
-.-Philippines is in National Team transition mode.
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one reason other countries are strong in football is that they use naturalized players. On the other hand, the Philippines uses players from other countries but they are half-Filipinos and so under Philippine constitution are classified as Filipino citizens. This is an important distinction from naturalized citizens.
Here is the news article here on the global phenomenon of using naturalized players:
In Blood We Trust
12 December 2010 Rick Olivares , Business Mirror
AFTER the Philippine national men’s football team beat Vietnam, 2-0, during the final rounds of 2010 Suzuki Cup last week, some quarters around Asia commented that the only reason the Philippines found success was because of a bunch of “naturalized” players.
The players in question were Filipino-Americans Aly Borromeo and Anton del Rosario, Filipino-Britons Phil and James Younghusband, Chris Greatwich, Rob Gier and Neil Etheridge, Filipino-Dutch Jason de Jong, Filipino-Icelander Ray Jonsson and Filipino-German Mark Drinkuth.
The accusation is false on many counts.
First of all, it is not the first time these players, save for Drinkuth, suited up for the Philippines. Several of them have been with the national team since 2004. So why is it that there are only complaints now?
And second, they are not naturalized. They are half-Filipinos, unlike the Singaporean national team that has naturalized players in Serbians Aleksandar Duric and Mustafic Fahrrudin, Englishman Mark Daniel Bennett and Chinese-born Shi Jiayi.
Another Southeast Asian eleven that makes use of players of foreign descent is Indonesia. Their national squad has four Dutch-born players in defender Tobias Waisapy, midfielders Raphael Maitimo and Jeffrey de Visccher and striker Jhon van Beukering.
The “naturalization” phenomenon isn’t new. In fact, in this world made more variegated with globalization and immigration, countries have naturalized different people for different reasons. It just so happens that sports has evolved with the times and football, the world game, is the best example of athletes without borders.
Guiseppe Rossi was born in Teaneck, New Jersey, yet he is a backup striker with the Italian national team and played for the Azzurri in the recent World Cup in South Africa.
Germany’s youth movement during its vastly successful 2010 World Cup campaign featured several players of foreign descent. Midfielders Sami Khedira is born to a Tunisian father and a German mother, while Mesut Ozil is a third-generation Turk-German.
Jerome Boateng is of Ghanaian descent yet plays in the back four for Die Mannschafft. His half-brother Kevin Prince Boateng plays for Ghana. Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose were both born in Poland but immigrated to Germany at an early age. Both could play either for Poland or Germany but they chose the latter.
One country at the forefront of the naturalization movement is Brazil. The world’s fifth-largest country counts among its biggest exports (aside from its natural resources) supermodels, bad-ass mixed martial arts fighters and football players.
Former Arsenal and current Shaktar Donetsk midfielder Eduardo Alves da Silva is Brazilian born and bred. But after success playing in Croatia’s top-flight league, he was naturalized in 2002 for the national side.
And more than a decade ago, Japan naturalized Brazilian Wagner Lopes who played for their 1998 World Cup team.
As for Team Philippines, ranked 151st in Fifa’s rankings, it’s also about playing the global game.
Jonsson, who plays for Grindavik in the Iceland Premier League, spent the first eight years of his life in Cebu before his family moved back to Iceland. He doesn’t express himself well in Filipino but can speak Visayan fluently. Jonsson, who once played in a UEFA tournament where he scored a goal against Austria, first suited up for the Philippines in the 2010 Long Teng Cup in Taipei.
Gier, who plays in the back four for Ascott in the English Hellenic League, has played for the Philippines since the 2009 Asian Football Confederation Challenge Cup.
Greatwich, who now coaches football in New Jersey, has played for the Philippines since 2004. He was a part of Brighton and Hove Albion’s Youth Squad in 2002 and has played in other league. Greatwich, has two other brothers, Philip and Simon, that have also suited up for the country.
De Jong currently plays midfield for Dutch second division team VB Veendam. He was offered an opportunity to play for the Netherlands but instead chose to represent the Philippines.
Etheridge, whose mother is from Tarlac, is a backup goalkeeper for Fulham in the English Premier League. He first started out with the Younghusband brothers in Chelsea’s Youth Academy and rejoined the brothers on the Philippine national team in 2008.
The Younghusband brothers, perhaps the most famous of all the Fil-foreigners on the team, have suited up for the country since 2005. As children, they were already exposed to Philippine culture as their mother would take them to Filipino-British events in London. Phil was with Chelsea from 1997 to 2005, while James was with the current English Premier League champion’s youth and seniors reserve team from 1996-2006.
Del Rosario and Borromeo were both born in San Francisco, California, a year apart, where they played high school and college ball in the area. They made their national team debut in 2004 with Greatwich, current team cocaptain Emelio “Chieffy” Caligdong, Peter Jaugan, Roel Gener and Ian Araneta.
National team head coach Simon McMenemy believes that the inclusion of Fil-foreigners significantly improves the team’s standings and chances at international competitions, but doesn’t do much for growth in the grassroots level.
“Their experience to top-flight competition and training is an asset,” said McMenemy. “But since they play abroad they are only able to train with the national team about a few days or even sometimes a day before we go into competition. That’s why we haven’t changed our formation or tactics because there wasn’t enough time to do so. That requires constant practice to get familiar with it and for everyone to know their roles and how to react when the situation calls for it. Hopefully, our national team’s success spurs real change and growth for the sport on every level.”
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Anyone who wants to replace a coach because his dwarf team keeps losing against bigger teams is wishing for a miracle and should get a magician. A more practical solution is to get reinforcements unless one is content to wait a few more years in the hope that the dwarf players will grow wings and fly over their defenders. PBA reinforcements will not guarantee a championship, but it will guarantee close losses which is enough to make me happy.
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Originally posted by pachador View Postone reason other countries are strong in football is that they use naturalized players. On the other hand, the Philippines uses players from other countries but they are half-Filipinos and so under Philippine constitution are classified as Filipino citizens. This is an important distinction from naturalized citizens.
Here is the news article here on the global phenomenon of using naturalized players:
In Blood We Trust
12 December 2010 Rick Olivares , Business Mirror
AFTER the Philippine national men’s football team beat Vietnam, 2-0, during the final rounds of 2010 Suzuki Cup last week, some quarters around Asia commented that the only reason the Philippines found success was because of a bunch of “naturalized” players.
The players in question were Filipino-Americans Aly Borromeo and Anton del Rosario, Filipino-Britons Phil and James Younghusband, Chris Greatwich, Rob Gier and Neil Etheridge, Filipino-Dutch Jason de Jong, Filipino-Icelander Ray Jonsson and Filipino-German Mark Drinkuth.
The accusation is false on many counts.
First of all, it is not the first time these players, save for Drinkuth, suited up for the Philippines. Several of them have been with the national team since 2004. So why is it that there are only complaints now?
And second, they are not naturalized. They are half-Filipinos, unlike the Singaporean national team that has naturalized players in Serbians Aleksandar Duric and Mustafic Fahrrudin, Englishman Mark Daniel Bennett and Chinese-born Shi Jiayi.
Another Southeast Asian eleven that makes use of players of foreign descent is Indonesia. Their national squad has four Dutch-born players in defender Tobias Waisapy, midfielders Raphael Maitimo and Jeffrey de Visccher and striker Jhon van Beukering.
The “naturalization” phenomenon isn’t new. In fact, in this world made more variegated with globalization and immigration, countries have naturalized different people for different reasons. It just so happens that sports has evolved with the times and football, the world game, is the best example of athletes without borders.
Guiseppe Rossi was born in Teaneck, New Jersey, yet he is a backup striker with the Italian national team and played for the Azzurri in the recent World Cup in South Africa.
Germany’s youth movement during its vastly successful 2010 World Cup campaign featured several players of foreign descent. Midfielders Sami Khedira is born to a Tunisian father and a German mother, while Mesut Ozil is a third-generation Turk-German.
Jerome Boateng is of Ghanaian descent yet plays in the back four for Die Mannschafft. His half-brother Kevin Prince Boateng plays for Ghana. Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose were both born in Poland but immigrated to Germany at an early age. Both could play either for Poland or Germany but they chose the latter.
One country at the forefront of the naturalization movement is Brazil. The world’s fifth-largest country counts among its biggest exports (aside from its natural resources) supermodels, bad-ass mixed martial arts fighters and football players.
Former Arsenal and current Shaktar Donetsk midfielder Eduardo Alves da Silva is Brazilian born and bred. But after success playing in Croatia’s top-flight league, he was naturalized in 2002 for the national side.
And more than a decade ago, Japan naturalized Brazilian Wagner Lopes who played for their 1998 World Cup team.
As for Team Philippines, ranked 151st in Fifa’s rankings, it’s also about playing the global game.
Jonsson, who plays for Grindavik in the Iceland Premier League, spent the first eight years of his life in Cebu before his family moved back to Iceland. He doesn’t express himself well in Filipino but can speak Visayan fluently. Jonsson, who once played in a UEFA tournament where he scored a goal against Austria, first suited up for the Philippines in the 2010 Long Teng Cup in Taipei.
Gier, who plays in the back four for Ascott in the English Hellenic League, has played for the Philippines since the 2009 Asian Football Confederation Challenge Cup.
Greatwich, who now coaches football in New Jersey, has played for the Philippines since 2004. He was a part of Brighton and Hove Albion’s Youth Squad in 2002 and has played in other league. Greatwich, has two other brothers, Philip and Simon, that have also suited up for the country.
De Jong currently plays midfield for Dutch second division team VB Veendam. He was offered an opportunity to play for the Netherlands but instead chose to represent the Philippines.
Etheridge, whose mother is from Tarlac, is a backup goalkeeper for Fulham in the English Premier League. He first started out with the Younghusband brothers in Chelsea’s Youth Academy and rejoined the brothers on the Philippine national team in 2008.
The Younghusband brothers, perhaps the most famous of all the Fil-foreigners on the team, have suited up for the country since 2005. As children, they were already exposed to Philippine culture as their mother would take them to Filipino-British events in London. Phil was with Chelsea from 1997 to 2005, while James was with the current English Premier League champion’s youth and seniors reserve team from 1996-2006.
Del Rosario and Borromeo were both born in San Francisco, California, a year apart, where they played high school and college ball in the area. They made their national team debut in 2004 with Greatwich, current team cocaptain Emelio “Chieffy” Caligdong, Peter Jaugan, Roel Gener and Ian Araneta.
National team head coach Simon McMenemy believes that the inclusion of Fil-foreigners significantly improves the team’s standings and chances at international competitions, but doesn’t do much for growth in the grassroots level.
“Their experience to top-flight competition and training is an asset,” said McMenemy. “But since they play abroad they are only able to train with the national team about a few days or even sometimes a day before we go into competition. That’s why we haven’t changed our formation or tactics because there wasn’t enough time to do so. That requires constant practice to get familiar with it and for everyone to know their roles and how to react when the situation calls for it. Hopefully, our national team’s success spurs real change and growth for the sport on every level.”
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/hom...blood-we-trust
using these foreign-born players of Filipino descent will surely make their team better and may improve their standing in football. Future successes of this team which consists of local plus foreign-born players will surely saturate its awareness to Filipino masses. In the long run, Filipino masses will embrace this beautiful game of football.
PI's FIFA ranking at 151st will move up that's what I can assure as long there are more people like Dan Palami who selflessly share their resources to the betterment of national side. . .
I'm very upbeat with the potentials of PI in international football. Their local programs might be crap but the amount of prospects, talents in its Filipino diaspora are abundant. I have a chat with Mr. De Beer, a real estate expert and a honorary member among Filipino communities here in UK. He is known to be a sports patron, sponsoring many sports events for Filipino community throughout Britain. He noticed while the first generation Pinoys here preferred and play basketball, the second generation, their sons and daughters are into football. Mr. De Beer has toured Filipino communities all over UK, he noticed several children of full and part-Filipino descent are training in many known football academies including English Premiership age level youth teams. . . The same situation he noticed among Filipino children in Italy when he stayed there for a year some few years back.
Take note, there are around 250,000 Filipinos now in UK and 175,000 in Italy. . . Both these countries have strong football tradition. . .Last edited by FilWelsh; 12-13-2010, 12:06 AM.
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Only 2 native-born (in bold) on its starting 11:
Etheridge(England), Gier(England), Del Rosario(USA), Borromeo(USA), Jonsson(Iceland), J.Younghusband (England), Caligdong(Philippines), De Jong(Holland), Greatwich(England), P.Younghusband(England), Araneta(Philippines)
Caligdong and Araneta were both born in Iloilo. . . it seems football in PHL is followed mainly by Illongo-speaking people in Panay and Negros islands while the rest of the country it is almost non-existent . . .
my 600th post after more than three years here in IBNLast edited by FilWelsh; 12-13-2010, 12:03 AM.
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Indonesia could be a powerhouse in Asia, if they also use players of part-Indonesian descent from their large expatriate community in Holland. Please take note, four members of the Holland's 2010 World Cup runner-up team are of part Indonesian descent. They are Robin Van Persie of Arsenal, John Heitinga of Everton, captain Giovanni von Bronckhorst of Feyenoord and Demy De Zeeuw of Ajax.
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I was wondering which Dutch players who are playing in the Dutch Eredivisie or other top divisions around the world that have parents or grandparents...
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Originally posted by FilWelsh View PostIndonesia could be a powerhouse in Asia, if they also use players of part-Indonesian descent from their large expatriate community in Holland. Please take note, four members of the Holland's 2010 World Cup runner-up team are of part Indonesian descent. They are Robin Van Persie of Arsenal, John Heitinga of Everton, captain Giovanni von Bronckhorst of Feyenoord and Demy De Zeeuw of Ajax.
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I was wondering which Dutch players who are playing in the Dutch Eredivisie or other top divisions around the world that have parents or grandparents...
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/471/n...from-indonesiawelcome back! lost kings of Asian basketball!
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