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  • Originally posted by macan77 View Post
    from your comments besides each countries, it seems that its only Bangladesh, Mongolia and Nepal that we have a good chance of beating?..that's your opinion and I beg to differ..i opined that we can beat any of these countries on any given day..much more if some potential players will will (cagara, De Guzman's, etc.)
    It really depends on how much we'll improve in the coming months as a team. Judging by the way we played, it seems that our team improved significantly since the Suzuki Cup. Then again, we might have issues with the availability of our players.
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    • Originally posted by macan77 View Post
      from your comments besides each countries, it seems that its only Bangladesh, Mongolia and Nepal that we have a good chance of beating?..that's your opinion and I beg to differ..i opined that we can beat any of these countries on any given day..much more if some potential players will will (cagara, De Guzman's, etc.)
      i didn't say that. my point is a lot of people underestimate our competition. who did the Azkals beat so far? the weaker ASEAN countries, Vietnam on a good day, Mongolia on a humid day, and Bangladesh. this isn't like basketball where we can predict a match just based on who beat who.

      if you want an honest assessment, we're evenly matched with all those other teams except Malaysia and Vietnam. with the level of competition we're facing so far, we can afford to just insert any experienced Fil-For and expect something. i haven't seen the Palestine and Bangladesh games so i wouldn't know what effect Jerry Lucena had. did we have more ball possession with him? did he create scoring chances? did he win balls? is he better than De Jong? (since reports says he was in that DMF position infront of the defense)

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      • Azkals Dream Team in the works
        (The Philippine Star) Updated March 27, 2011 12:00 AM

        Ian Araneta boots in a goal against a Bangladeshi goalie in Friday’s game. ABAC CORDERO


        RANGOON – Watch out for the Azkals Dream Team.
        Yes, very soon, the Azkals will come to their full potential, with the possible arrival of more recruits, including Fil-German Stefan Schrock and Fil-Danish Dennis Cagara.
        The Azkals are also looking at the Toronto-born De Guzman brothers, Jonathan and Julian, to be part of the team when they vie in the World Cup qualifiers starting in June.
        Angel Guirado, the Fil-Spanish hitman, assured the team of his availability, as well as Jerry Lucena, who flashed his own brilliance in three matches here over the week.
        Team manager Dan Palami feels like he’s got the final pieces to the puzzle in his hand.
        “For the World Cup qualifiers, I’m hoping that we will be able to form our Dream Team,” he said yesterday inside his Yangon Hotel room.
        As he talked about the Dream Team, the Azkals were busy packing their things for the trip back home, fresh from their victorious stint in the AFC Challenge Cup group stage here.
        With a team beaming with talent and cohesion, the Azkals drew their matches against Myanmar and Palestine before beating Bangladesh, 3-0, to make it to the 2012 Challenge Cup main tournament.
        But Palami said the current team is not yet the team he had dreamed of.
        “This is just 60 percent of the full potential that I have in mind,” said Palami.
        From here, he said the Azkals will get a much-needed break. For a month, they can attend to their families, loved ones, their work or respective football clubs.
        But while the players rest, the coaches will be as busy as before.


        Palami said the local coaches will be looking out for under-23 talents to be fielded for the 26th Southeast Asian Games in Indonesia in November.
        Head coach Michael Weiss, on the other hand, will be flying home to Germany soon, not to rest but to scout for other Fil-foreign talents waiting to be tapped.
        Palami said Rob Gier will help Weiss in the scouting.
        Team captain Aly Borromeo, Anton del Rosario and Simon Greatwich will leave for the United States to conduct tryouts in the East and West coasts beginning April 8.
        “By March 30 we will know who our opponent will be in the World Cup qualifiers,” said Palami.
        And by the time the Azkals try to do what’s never been done before, there’s hope that the Dream Team is there to compete.
        Palami said dreams come true.
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        • Cagara, I thought Denmark giving him a chance to try out for their Seniors team?

          "Angel dela Muerte" Guirado's brother is also interested to play for but I can't remember where did I got that info.
          you know why I am happy

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          • Originally posted by paolylo View Post
            i didn't say that. my point is a lot of people underestimate our competition. who did the Azkals beat so far? the weaker ASEAN countries, Vietnam on a good day, Mongolia on a humid day, and Bangladesh. this isn't like basketball where we can predict a match just based on who beat who.

            if you want an honest assessment, we're evenly matched with all those other teams except Malaysia and Vietnam. with the level of competition we're facing so far, we can afford to just insert any experienced Fil-For and expect something. i haven't seen the Palestine and Bangladesh games so i wouldn't know what effect Jerry Lucena had. did we have more ball possession with him? did he create scoring chances? did he win balls? is he better than De Jong? (since reports says he was in that DMF position infront of the defense)

            During the 2010 Suzuki cup, we can really say that Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia are a notch higher than us coz we only depended on a couple of talents..now with the success of that tournament, there are loads of high calibre (not as high as the PL players) that are volunteering for the national team..and some of these players flew from their origin countries to tryout for the national team, others stayed for a couple of weeks and months to practice with the team..and to your question if Jerry Lucena is better than De Jong? Ofcourse, he is better than de Jong..He is playing in a Tier 1 (or 2) tournament in Europe. That makes him an elite player. And his position is very important in the game, DMF but he could also be an attacking defensive midfielder. And probably, during the Bangladesh match, he has been both defensive and offensive player. Its usually in these position that the tempo of the game is dictated..

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            • current state of the Philippine Football team is i think in a right direction. The good thing about football is that, FIFA, the world governing body, has been very good in scheduling their international tournaments (worldwide) where the best possible players can really play for their country during these tournaments. Niel Etheridge for example is under the Fulham Club, but since this week is a European Qualifier, the Premier League is on a break..That's why he is allowed to play. These also goes to other football elites that are playing in the premier league. They all went home to play for their countries. And mind you, MOST of them always represent their flags when called upon. I say most because there are those who decline but for personal reasons and not because they are not allowed by thier clubs or leagues. and these kind of state differs from our basketball state. I am still a basketball craze person since all my life i have been playing and watching basketball games..but its a sad state really. the only bright spot is the Gilas but still...i just leave my comment there..peace..

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              • as with anything in sports, i'd reserve my judgement until i see it on TV. on paper, Lucena is more experienced than De Jong... but De Jong is more familiar with the Azkals, as he even started out playing the wingman position. i also don't know the caliber of Danish football, but Dutch football is right up there with the Italian and Portuguese leagues (top 3 are obviously England, Germany, and Spain). there are so many leagues in Europe, only a fool would think they all produce the same quality. De Jong playing in the Indonesian league right now guarantees him match-fitness and familiarity with perennial opponents. 2 games, 2 results... job well done for Lucena so far.

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                • Galing talaga ng AZKALS!...

                  GOOD JOB BOYS!!

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                  • this Wiki article is very informative. I'd like you guys to check out the format and level of competitions (see how SEA nations fared against others, esp the MidEast teams. Kudos to Thailand though)

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                    • Originally posted by paolylo View Post
                      as with anything in sports, i'd reserve my judgement until i see it on TV. on paper, Lucena is more experienced than De Jong... but De Jong is more familiar with the Azkals, as he even started out playing the wingman position. i also don't know the caliber of Danish football, but Dutch football is right up there with the Italian and Portuguese leagues (top 3 are obviously England, Germany, and Spain). there are so many leagues in Europe, only a fool would think they all produce the same quality. De Jong playing in the Indonesian league right now guarantees him match-fitness and familiarity with perennial opponents. 2 games, 2 results... job well done for Lucena so far.
                      you really don't know the structure of european footballs? they are not produce by the tier 1 leagues in europe. they are produced by the academy put up by these leagues and countries..the players in the tier 1 are the finished products of these academy. that's where they honed their skills. Only those elite from the academy and those proven offered to play for these multi-million euros clubs. but if you are saying that De Jong is much better as a team player because he has been playing long enough with the azkals..yeah, you're probably right..but mind you, national teams in europe are constantly changing their players..and they only need a few weeks practice..why? because these players are all professional (tier 1 players) and should know what they are doing..that's why, the likes of Lucena does not need to undergo any tryouts for the national team..you know what I mean?

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                      • Originally posted by macan77 View Post
                        you really don't know the structure of european footballs? they are not produce by the tier 1 leagues in europe. they are produced by the academy put up by these leagues and countries..the players in the tier 1 are the finished products of these academy. that's where they honed their skills. Only those elite from the academy and those proven offered to play for these multi-million euros clubs. but if you are saying that De Jong is much better as a team player because he has been playing long enough with the azkals..yeah, you're probably right..but mind you, national teams in europe are constantly changing their players..and they only need a few weeks practice..why? because these players are all professional (tier 1 players) and should know what they are doing..that's why, the likes of Lucena does not need to undergo any tryouts for the national team..you know what I mean?
                        i've been watching European football for almost 13 years. the Danish leagues (including the Superliga, where Lucena plays) are weaker than the Dutch leagues (including the Eredivisie, where De Jong started). tier 1 in England/Germany/Spain are miles ahead of tier 1 in Liechtenstein/Andorra/San Marino. playing in "Europe" is such a general term and it's never always the case that a finished product from a football academy will be offered to play professionally... why do you think Phil and James Younghusband are not playing club football in England after going through Chelsea FC's system? big-spending European clubs recruit young talent from all over the world and will sign anyone with a price tag, the low budget European clubs can only afford to recruit talent in their country.

                        i get what you mean, but the only way to prove a player is better than another player is through their performance on the pitch. not their club experience, not their age, not even their youtube highlights.

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                        • It's my first time posting on this thread, and I want to ask a legit question:

                          When a Maradona, or a Pele, or a Friedenreich player will exist on Philippine Football? That alone will cement Filipino Football forever, right? Are we ready to face the powerhouses in the likes of England, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Spain, Japan, South Korea and many more which I will not mention.

                          It's not that I hate basketball, I both love the basketball and the football as a sport. The thing is for me, when will a football messiah will sprung among us?

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                          • Originally posted by ramzaruglia View Post
                            It's my first time posting on this thread, and I want to ask a legit question:

                            When a Maradona, or a Pele, or a Friedenreich player will exist on Philippine Football? That alone will cement Filipino Football forever, right? Are we ready to face the powerhouses in the likes of England, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Spain, Japan, South Korea and many more which I will not mention.

                            It's not that I hate basketball, I both love the basketball and the football as a sport. The thing is for me, when will a football messiah will sprung among us?
                            If you're talking about a natural born Filipino football messiah, then it's never gonna happen unless we have a very strong professional league.

                            Looking at the current football team, we are still over-reliant on fil-foreigners to fight our battles. I have no problem with this as it is the most effective solution at the moment. For me, us producing a football messiah should be the least of our priorities. We should focus on having a consistent strong football program from the grassroots to the senior national team.

                            Aside from the Azkals, we have also initiated our grassroots program in the U16, U18 and U23 categories. Only time will tell how high the caliber of players we'll produce in the future given that we don't run into any mess such politics and corruption.
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                            • Originally posted by ramzaruglia View Post
                              It's my first time posting on this thread, and I want to ask a legit question:

                              When a Maradona, or a Pele, or a Friedenreich player will exist on Philippine Football? That alone will cement Filipino Football forever, right? Are we ready to face the powerhouses in the likes of England, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Spain, Japan, South Korea and many more which I will not mention.

                              It's not that I hate basketball, I both love the basketball and the football as a sport. The thing is for me, when will a football messiah will sprung among us?
                              If you're talking about a natural born Filipino football messiah, then it's never gonna happen unless we have a very strong professional league.

                              Looking at the current football team, we are still over-reliant on fil-foreigners to fight our battles. I have no problem with this as it is the most effective solution at the moment. For me, us producing a football messiah should be the least of our priorities. We should focus on having a consistent strong football program from the grassroots to the senior national team.

                              Aside from the Azkals, we have also initiated our grassroots program in the U16, U18 and U23 categories. Only time will tell how high the caliber of players we'll produce in the future given that we don't run into any mess such politics and corruption.
                              GILAS WISHLIST:
                              6'8 Pingris

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                              • Originally posted by ramzaruglia View Post
                                It's my first time posting on this thread, and I want to ask a legit question:

                                When a Maradona, or a Pele, or a Friedenreich player will exist on Philippine Football? That alone will cement Filipino Football forever, right? Are we ready to face the powerhouses in the likes of England, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Spain, Japan, South Korea and many more which I will not mention.

                                It's not that I hate basketball, I both love the basketball and the football as a sport. The thing is for me, when will a football messiah will sprung among us?
                                of course not. in basketball, you can have a special player win games for a team on pure talent and skill alone. this sort of thing will never happen in football especially Filipino football where the Azkals have limited exposure to the world stage. we don't have a pro league that sends its champions against other Asian clubs... so even if we did have that local footballing Messiah, he'd go unnoticed and be eaten up alive once the competition steps up because individual talent and skill can only do so much.

                                the reality of Asian players being recognized is through success in the national team. Park Ji Sung, Keisuke Honda, just to name a few... increased their stock after impressing in the World Cup. how they got that far was because their team was good enough to compete.

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