Official Michael "Mike" Rosario Thread.

[Flexo]

Rosario may play point, but he's still not a playmaker - which is what separates good to great NBA PGs.

I also wouldn't say he is "built for the NBA". Since he's a natural 2, I would say he would have to be taller to be "built for the NBA". However, he is more athletic and stronger then both Curry and Reddick (also is a better driver the the latter two).

In the end,believe his success will be determined on how much better his court vision gets and the team that drafts him (and how he fits in the system).

Where is your source for him not being a playmaker?
We aren't talking about good or great NBA's PG.
We are talking about Rosario getting drafted.

Rosario has nothing in common with Reddick, why would you even bring his name up in this conversation? Rosario has very good ball handling ability...Reddick has no ability to play PG at all. Rosario has been playing a lot of PG in his freshman year in the best conference in the NCAA....way more than Curry was doing his freshman year and Curry was selected 7th.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

"Rosario is a big time point guard and a great catch for Rutgers (verbal). He has a tremendous feel for the game, works harder than anyone on the court and is a flat out winner. He is the consummate floor general who can also attack the rim. His outside shot continues to improve. The term "gym rat" was invented for this kid."


Size is mad overrated in the NBA.
Rosario can play SG in the NBA, alot of guys bellow 6"5 do.

Hell, Jose Juan Barea who's 5"10 was playing SG for Dallas....as well the 5"8 Nate Robinson for NYC.

Where are you right now with basketball? You seem distant.

[Czarkazem13]

Where is your source for him not being a playmaker?

Lol. Source? LOL...

We aren't talking about good or great NBA's PG.
We are talking about Rosario getting drafted.

Hum, it's pertinent to the conversation if you are talking where he will be drafted.

Rosario has nothing in common with Reddick, why would you even bring his name up in this conversation?

Wow. Hum, I didn't. Someone else did. I just stated their differences. Comprehension isn't your strongest ability is it?

Rosario has very good ball handling ability...Reddick has no ability to play PG at all.

Really, and when did I state he can play the point?

Rosario has been playing a lot of PG in his freshman year in the best conference in the NCAA....way more than Curry was doing his freshman year and Curry was selected 7th.

When did I argue the contrary?

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

You obviously don't know what I'm talking about.

"Rosario is a big time point guard and a great catch for Rutgers (verbal).

He's a big time player, not point guard. Yet, he is a catch for Rutgers. This we agree on (don't know why you had to bring it up - who was arguing the opposite?)

He has a tremendous feel for the game, works harder than anyone on the court and is a flat out winner. He is the consummate floor general who can also attack the rim. His outside shot continues to improve. The term "gym rat" was invented for this kid."

And he goes to church every weekened, drinks milk before bed, always calls his mom...what are you, his agent?

Size is mad overrated in the NBA.

Not to most coaches and GMs.

Rosario can play SG in the NBA, alot of guys bellow 6"5 do.

Define "a lot". Define play (as in starting or real minutes).

Hell, Jose Juan Barea who's 5"10 was playing SG for Dallas....as well the 5"8 Nate Robinson for NYC.

JJ Barea is able to play at the 2, because of Kidd being a large PG and he can defend the opposing team's 2-guard. Remember when I typed, "In the end, [I] believe his success will be determined...[by] the team that drafts him (and how he fits in the system)." Hence if they have a big PG to defend opposing 2-guards.

Where are you right now with basketball?

Huh, we're doing fine. Even on speaking terms.

You seem distant.

Then type louder.

[Lewis]

You obviously don't know what you're talking about

Where is your source for him not being a playmaker?
We aren't talking about good or great NBA's PG.

Really, then can you explain his atrocious Assist/Turnover

are talking about Rosario getting drafted.

NO we are NOT
No one here has said that he won't get drafted
However, Some are stating is that he'll be the First pick overall (which is something absurd, by all accounts), that's what we are discussing about here

Rosario has very good ball handling ability...

good ball handling doesn't automatically make you a point guard,
ALLEN IVERSON is a great ball handler

Rosario has been playing a lot of PG in his freshman year in the best conference in the NCAA....way more than Curry was doing his freshman year and Curry was selected 7th.

I still think that compering Rosario with Curry "RIGHT NOW" is a disrespect to Curry. Get back to me when he averages 25, 5, 3, 2 on a regular basis.

Size is mad overrated in the NBA.
Rosario can play SG in the NBA, alot of guys bellow 6"5 do.

HE'S 6'2'' for god's sake !!!!!!, HE CAN"T PLAY THE freaking 2 in the NBA, On top of that he's skinny as hell.

let's take a look at the first overall picks of the last drafts
1974 Bill Walton Center
1975 David Thompson
1976 John Lucas
1977 Kent Benson Center
1978 Mychal Thompson Center
1979 Earvin Johnson
1980 Joe Barry Carroll Center
1981 Mark Aguirre
1982 James Worthy Foward
1983 Ralph Sampson Center
1984 Akeem Olajuwon Center
1985 Patrick Ewing Center
1986 Brad Daugherty Center
1987 David Robinson Center
1988 Danny Manning PF
1989 Pervis Ellison Center
1990 Derrick Coleman PF
1991 Larry Johnson PF
1992 Shaquille O'Neal Center
1993 Chris Webber PF
1994 Glenn Robinson
1995 Joe Smith PF
1996 Iverson
1997 Tim Duncan Center
Michael Olowokandi Center
1999 Elton Brand PF
2000 Kenyon Martin PF
2001 Kwame Brown Center
2002 Yao Ming Center and the tallest guy in the NBA
2003 LeBron James a 6'8" SF
2004 Dwight Howard Center
2005 Andrew Bogut Center
2006 Andrea Bargnani PF
2007 Greg Oden Center
2008 Derrick Rose
2009 Blake Griffin PF

SO YEAH, SIZE DOES MATTER in 1974-2009 only 2 point guards have been the first overall pick and only 3 players under 6'6'' (actually only 3 players under 6'8'' have been the first overall pick of the draft)

[PRSURF]

6'3 Lewis and in the official page of u19 WC he is 6'4..........hater....go and talk about of Edgar Sosa in other topic....

[Flexo]

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He has the ability to be a 1st round pick.
Not 1st overall.
So you posted that for nothing. I guess you feel like you needed to do that to look "smart"


We aren't talking about good or great NBA's PG.
We are talking about Rosario getting drafted.
^ I meant by this, STFU about stuff that isn't relevant. Wasting mad time.

The whole title of "point guard" is overrated. Arenas, Parker, Harris, Ellis, Davis, Nelson, Terry, Williams are rock the PG position fine. They're all score first PG's and very successful in the NBA.

Does it mean Rosario will reach their level of successful?
Yes and no.

Depends how hard Rosario works.
Rosario happens to have very good work ethic.

His turnover/assist problem can be IMPROVED. He was a freshman....have you ever heard of progression and experience?

There you go ahead.
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I compare Rosario's freshman year to Curry's freshman year. (Rosario having the more superior year)
But then you b*tch on how I'm comparing Rosario to Curry now.
...where are you going with this? Thanks for wasting time and text.

Point is, Rosario is a BETTER TALENT than Curry coming out of High School and had a better FROSH year.

Therefor Rosario's potential to pass Curry's level right now in two-three years is very REALISTIC.

It isn't a disrespect to Curry. I'm not comparing them right now.

Kidd is a large PG...right....he's HUGE, at 6"4 with no hops.

Rosario is 6"2/6"3...you're really trying to make it seem like Kidd is a giant compared to Rosario? 2 inches isn't a lot. Rosario can play PG/SG in the NBA easily. Barbosa, Pargo, Jackson, Robinson, Barea and many others do it. You're just too stubborn to realize it.

[Czarkazem13]

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He has the ability to be a 1st round pick.
Not 1st overall.
So you posted that for nothing. I guess you feel like you needed to do that to look "smart"


We aren't talking about good or great NBA's PG.
We are talking about Rosario getting drafted.
^ I meant by this, STFU about stuff that isn't relevant. Wasting mad time.

The whole title of "point guard" is overrated. Arenas, Parker, Harris, Ellis, Davis, Nelson, Terry, Williams are rock the PG position fine. They're all score first PG's and very successful in the NBA.

Does it mean Rosario will reach their level of successful?
Yes and no.

Depends how hard Rosario works.
Rosario happens to have very good work ethic.

His turnover/assist problem can be IMPROVED. He was a freshman....have you ever heard of progression and experience?

There you go ahead.
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I compare Rosario's freshman year to Curry's freshman year. (Rosario having the more superior year)
But then you b*tch on how I'm comparing Rosario to Curry now.
...where are you going with this? Thanks for wasting time and text.

Point is, Rosario is a BETTER TALENT than Curry coming out of High School and had a better FROSH year.

Therefor Rosario's potential to pass Curry's level right now in two-three years is very REALISTIC.

It isn't a disrespect to Curry. I'm not comparing them right now.

Kidd is a large PG...right....he's HUGE, at 6"4 with no hops.

Rosario is 6"2/6"3...you're really trying to make it seem like Kidd is a giant compared to Rosario? 2 inches isn't a lot. Rosario can play PG/SG in the NBA easily. Barbosa, Pargo, Jackson, Robinson, Barea and many others do it. You're just too stubborn to realize it.

Was this for me or Lewis?

I see a lot had to be deleted.

Not sure where to even address, you seem all over the place. It looks as if you address us both without determining who you are talking to.

Kidd is over 6-4, some have hims listed as 6-5. He also has a much bigger frame then Rosario. He is also above average size and height for the PG position. I was using his size to state how Barea can play the 2 (on offense) but would need the bigger Kidd to play the 2 for D.

Since we are talking about size and draft. Take Barea, great college player, but his size scared many teams off. If he were two to three inches taller (or a freak athlete), he would have been drafted. With that said, I'm not comparing him and Rosario, just using an example on why size matters when getting drafted except for a few exceptions.

I'm not stating that he won't be good, but the thought that his height - or lack of - isn't going to affect his draft level is rediculous, and one can only come up with that conclusion if they don't know anything about the NBA.

And how is "point guard" overrated (and then just name players who have little in common as far as style and their teams have had different "successes")? Oh and the best PG you listed, Deron Williams is FAR FROM A score-first PG.

Now calm down, breathe. Rosario isn't a true PG, but his body is built for the PG position (NBA wise). All I'm saying is that can hurt him when getting drafted.

I assume the rest was aimed at Lewish.

[Flexo]

Everything was aimed at Lewis...I didnt even know you were in this thread...so you need to calm down before you jump to conclusion...but I didn't read your name. My fault. Nothing to cry about.

Kidd is 6"4
Rosario is 6"3

Not a big difference...please, be serious here.
Rosario is slighty above average at 6"3

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=avepos&year=All&draft=0&sort=

^ My source(you need sources before you open your mouth), tells that the average measured height for a point is 6"0 feet without shoes.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jason-Kidd-3144/

Jason Kidd measured 6"3 and 215 lbs.
He's 6"4 with sneakers.
He was never 6"5.

So how can you come into thread with a massive load of misinformation and expect me to take you seriously? You need to step down and do your research before you try to speak to me.


Barea is seriously like 5"10.
Rosario is atleast 6"2.
If size matters, why are you comparing two distant players?
Barea has below average height.
Rosario has above average height.
You fail once again.

Once again, how do you lack height at a position when you have above average height? Your really making no sense and should come to an agreement now that what you've been texting is 100% invalid.

[Czarkazem13]

Everything was aimed at Lewis...I didnt even know you were in this thread...so you need to calm down before you jump to conclusion...but I didn't read your name. My fault. Nothing to cry about.

Wait, do I need to calm down or stop crying, I'm a little confused.

It's also amusing that you didn't even know I was on this thread, but you've already responded to me....

Kidd is 6"4
Rosario is 6"3

I'm not sure why you post these as if they are done facts. Both players have been measured differently because teams - especially colleges - lie to make their players bigger (also to help their draft status). Most websites get the measurements from the teams.

Not a big difference...please, be serious here.
Rosario is slighty above average at 6"3
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-...&draft=0&sort=

Height, plus the fact that Kidd is stronger and has more body mass makes a big difference when dealing with physical play.

^ My source(you need sources before you open your mouth), tells that the average measured height for a point is 6"0 feet without shoes.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jason-Kidd-3144/

Lol. I love this source thing. Did you try "Deepthroat"?

Jason Kidd measured 6"3 and 215 lbs.
He's 6"4 with sneakers.
He was never 6"5.

See above.

So how can you come into thread with a massive load of misinformation and expect me to take you seriously? You need to step down and do your research before you try to speak to me.

Lol.

Barea is seriously like 5"10.
Rosario is atleast 6"2.
If size matters, why are you comparing two distant players?
Barea has below average height.
Rosario has above average height.
You fail once again.

Once again, as I've stated before, someone else started with these comparisons, I only responded. Plus, Barea is a natural PG. Rosario isn't above average height for a PG. The average heights for a PG is listed as between 6-0 and 6-3, starters not separated. Add that to the fact that Rosario isn't a true PG (yes, I know Rutgers has him there, all this depends on how he becomes a true "quarterback" and improves his skills in college).

Once again, how do you lack height at a position when you have above average height? Your really making no sense and should come to an agreement now that what you've been texting is 100% invalid.

Huh. Lol. He's not an NBA PG yet. He is still a small 2-guard which was the point all the way from my first post.

Can we agree that you have a hard time comprehending?

[Flexo]

1. Ight, thats nice.
2. Nope.
I got my sources, which are pretty valid and accurate.
Official draft measurements > your unofficial make believe heights.
Damn son, you mad stubborn as hell.
Even when I still present the facts to you, you still manage to b*tch about something. You fail to tell the difference between right and wrong, and you're very delusional.
3. Lameness. Responses are like "LOL" and stuff. Why did you even bother coming here?
4. You stated it before, but it got proven wrong, so shaddup.
5. Barea is a natural PG who's played minutes at SG...so? A position is a position...

The average height for a PG is listed at 6" without shoes as I posted from the link.

It isn't an estimate...6"0, 6"1, 6"2, and 6"3 are four different heights. There is only one average, pendejo. and it is 6"0

Lets try simple math for a simple guy like you.

6"0 = 6"0 = Average
6"1 > 6"0
6"2 > 6"0
6"3 > 6"0

You said:
Rosario isn't above average height for a PG.

Rosario is a PG/SG...combo...he doesn't need to be a true PG to play PG...alot of people play the PG position with great scoring ability.


Not everyone is your dream NBA fantasy height...in the real NBA world, the average is what is it stated and measured officially.

[Czarkazem13]

1. Ight, thats nice.

What? Or was that for Lewis again?

2. Nope.

Huh, ok...?

I got my sources, which are pretty valid and accurate.
Official draft measurements > your unofficial make believe heights.

Who are you, Bob Woodward?

Damn son, you mad stubborn as hell.

Two people debating, not giving in, yet only one is "mad" stubborn. Besides, it's more out of amusement for me.

Even when I still present the facts to you, you still manage to b*tch about something. You fail to tell the difference between right and wrong, and you're very delusional.

Such language. What facts? At least that are relevant. The whole original point was that Rosario isn't a natural PG, which could hurt him in the draft. He is small for the 2-guard, but it would depend on the team that drafted him (whether they have big guards to help or a above average PG).

3. Lameness. Responses are like "LOL" and stuff.

LOL.

Why did you even bother coming here?

Probably for the same need you have to respond to me.

4. You stated it before, but it got proven wrong, so shaddup.

But I don't need to talk to type....

5. Barea is a natural PG who's played minutes at SG...so? A position is a position...

Position is a position? Hum...ok.

The average height for a PG is listed at 6" without shoes as I posted from the link.

It isn't an estimate...6"0, 6"1, 6"2, and 6"3 are four different heights. There is only one average, pendejo. and it is 6"0

Pendejo? LOL. What are you 10?

So with that said, Jason Kidd is an above average height for a PG. Thank you, you've proved my point. What are you going to argue about Chauncy Billops now?

Lets try simple math for a simple guy like you.

6"0 = 6"0 = Average
6"1 > 6"0
6"2 > 6"0
6"3 > 6"0

You said:
Rosario isn't above average height for a PG.

Well, I'm too tired (and simple) to go look where I put that, but I'm sure I meant for a SG, since that would be his natural position (unless his playmaking improves) and that was my basic point from the beginning.

Rosario is a PG/SG...combo...he doesn't need to be a true PG to play PG...alot of people play the PG position with great scoring ability.

I didn't say he couldn't play PG. The point of this was his lack of playmaking skills (for a 1) and lack of size (for a 2) could hurt him when drafted. That's it.

Should I now throw an insult at you?

Not everyone is your dream NBA fantasy height...in the real NBA world, the average is what is it stated and measured officially.

So not everyone is the same height? Is that your point? Well, I guess we agree on something.

[Flexo]

Okay, so you finally submit.

I was getting at you because you like to type a lot things that have no meaning and you didn't know the average height for a point guard.

I'm glad to teach you though...keep reading, and never stop yourself from learning.

[Czarkazem13]

Okay, so you finally submit.

I was getting at you because you like to type a lot things that have no meaning and you didn't know the average height for a point guard.

I'm glad to teach you though...keep reading, and never stop yourself from learning.

LMAO!!!!

Yeah, ok Grasshopper.

[bobo81]

lol @ you nizzles fighting over PG heights.

[Czarkazem13]

lol @ you nizzles fighting over PG heights.

Fo' shizzle.