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  • RD: Charlie Villanueva's status questioned

    The Argentinian Federation and the Puertorrican Federation are presenting a claim against Charlie Villanueva and Josh Asselin.

    Argentina says that the autorization for CV31 to play for RD was processed to fast.

    Puerto Rico argues that CV31 and Josh Asselin cant play together because both of them are naturalized players, since Josh is not dominican and CV31 already lost his dominican status by playing with USA.

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  • #2
    Villanueva never played on the Senior team, so he should be alright to play for D.R.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by raft View Post
      Villanueva never played on the Senior team, so he should be alright to play for D.R.
      but he played on the U21, and that's enough to disqualify him to play for DR.
      DR should have followed a process, which would have required a letter from USA Basketball allowing CV31 to play for DR, a time period, and a couple of things i cant really remember. On the other side, Tuto Marchand promised the DR Federation that if they could get CV31 a DR passport, he would be able to play. FIBA is evaluation the case at the moment.

      The issue is not about him not playing for a senior team, the issue is that he declared his basketball nationality being over 18 years old. He was 19 years old, about to be 20 in Halifax when he represented USA, which under my limited understanding, makes him a property of USA Basketball unless they quit on his rights.

      My understanding is that the DR Federation is trying to nationalize him by giving him a dominican passport. A passport and the constitution of a country doesnt make u elegible to play for a National Team according to FIBA rules.

      The president of the PR Federation has denied that they filed a complaint to FIBA about the issue.
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      • #4
        I am pretty sure if he didn't play for the Senior team he is alright to play for another country. This is why Ben Gordon can play for Britain if he wants. Gordon played for a junior level US team a few years back when he was still at UConn and over 18.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by raft View Post
          I am pretty sure if he didn't play for the Senior team he is alright to play for another country. This is why Ben Gordon can play for Britain if he wants. Gordon played for a junior level US team a few years back when he was still at UConn and over 18.
          ben gordon played for the seniors team at a Pan Am tournament in 2003 in Santo Domingo. The team was composed of then college players, but competing in the senior level. Played with the likes of Emeka Okafor, Josh Childress, Andre Barrett, Chuck Hayes, Ike Dioug, Luke Jackson, and others. The tournament was won by Brazil (Varejao, Machado, Splitter, Giovannoni), the dominicans finished 2nd (JMM, Cisco, Western, Filion) Puerto Rico finished third (Arroyo, Ayuso, Santiago, Dalmau) and USA finished 4th. Ben Gordon cant play for Britan. He has never played for Britain, and if he wants to play for Britain, he has to get a clearance from Team USA.

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          • #6
            Fiba should let Villanueva play for the dominicans, dont know who is Josh Asselin, but he has ass on his name so he must be arrogant. Nationalized players or not Puerto Rico will still wipe the floor with them..
            Originally posted by J-Mart
            the land of the free and the home of the brave is the greatest joke I've ever heard. There is no such thing as liberty and the american dream is more overrated than Japeth Aguilar was when u guys found he was a pinoy
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            • #7
              Originally posted by saalsapr View Post
              Fiba should let Villanueva play for the dominicans, dont know who is Josh Asselin, but he has ass on his name so he must be arrogant. Nationalized players or not Puerto Rico will still wipe the floor with them..
              Josh Asselin played as an import a couple of years ago in Puerto Rico and got his butt kicked. After that he played fairly well in the spanish ACB. He was naturalized by the dominicans for the 2005 Tournament of the Americas. He aint as good as advertised. Villanueva is a far better option than him, so I wouldnt complain if I was dominican and FIBA made me decide between the 2 of em.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by -K2- View Post
                The Argentinian Federation and the Puertorrican Federation are presenting a claim against Charlie Villanueva and Josh Asselin.

                Argentina says that the autorization for CV31 to play for RD was processed to fast.

                Puerto Rico argues that CV31 and Josh Asselin cant play together because both of them are naturalized players, since Josh is not dominican and CV31 already lost his dominican status by playing with USA.

                Interesting... where did you find this information ??

                Stuart
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stuart View Post
                  Interesting... where did you find this information ??

                  Stuart
                  dominican newspaper, sorry I didnt link it, i was in a news rush



                  Todo lo relacionado con el Baloncesto Dominicano, nuestros jugadores, entrenadores y nuestra Selección Nacional. El basket nos Une!!!


                  Todo lo relacionado con el Baloncesto Dominicano, nuestros jugadores, entrenadores y nuestra Selección Nacional. El basket nos Une!!!



                  links are in spanish.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by -K2- View Post
                    ben gordon played for the seniors team at a Pan Am tournament in 2003 in Santo Domingo. The team was composed of then college players, but competing in the senior level. Played with the likes of Emeka Okafor, Josh Childress, Andre Barrett, Chuck Hayes, Ike Dioug, Luke Jackson, and others. The tournament was won by Brazil (Varejao, Machado, Splitter, Giovannoni), the dominicans finished 2nd (JMM, Cisco, Western, Filion) Puerto Rico finished third (Arroyo, Ayuso, Santiago, Dalmau) and USA finished 4th. Ben Gordon cant play for Britan. He has never played for Britain, and if he wants to play for Britain, he has to get a clearance from Team USA.

                    http://www.usabasketball.com/news.ph...page=mpag_2003
                    Ben Gordon don't need any clearance, the Panamerican games arent ruled by the FIBA org.
                    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
                    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
                    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

                    Seriosuly... someone quote this whole post and signature me... Greek Loby Rulz
                    8/29/2010...THE DAY WE GOT ROBBED!

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                    • #11
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PRSURF View Post
                        Ben Gordon don't need any clearance, the Panamerican games arent ruled by the FIBA org.
                        FIBA refs, FIBA website, FIBA court, everything FIBA but FIBA doesnt rule the games... why??
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                        • #13
                          Was that Pan Am team considered the Senior team? That would have made two separate Senior teams for '03. I don't think that Pan Am team was considered a Senior team. I could be mistaken. As far as I understand the rules, if someone plays for US Senior team he is prohibited from ever playing with another country. No negotiation. If that Pan Am team was considered a Senior team, then Gordon can't ever play for Britain. Again, as far as I understand the rules. If you play on junior teams, you just need ask permission to be released by USA bball, like Villanueva did.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by raft View Post
                            Was that Pan Am team considered the Senior team? That would have made two separate Senior teams for '03. I don't think that Pan Am team was considered a Senior team. I could be mistaken. As far as I understand the rules, if someone plays for US Senior team he is prohibited from ever playing with another country. No negotiation. If that Pan Am team was considered a Senior team, then Gordon can't ever play for Britain. Again, as far as I understand the rules. If you play on junior teams, you just need ask permission to be released by USA bball, like Villanueva did.
                            From what I understand the fact that Villanueva already played for the National Team, has nothing to do with this.The thing is that according to Fiba Rules a team can only have one Naturalized player, And a player that have changed his Sport Nationality (not to be confused with a country's Nationality) is considered a Naturalized player too.

                            So Villanueva can play but the other guy Asselin can't or vise versa


                            The Only real question here is: why didn't FIBA apply this rule on JORDAN NT when they played with Rasheim Ali Abd. WRIGHT and the other dude who also changed his sport nationality because he had already played for Germany.

                            DOUBLE STANDARDS MAYBE????????????????

                            or does that rule only apply for Caribbean Nations whose Name starts with the Letter "D"


                            Neither Jordan nor The Domicnian Republic are to be blame here, is FIBA who has different rules for every single country. Just look at what they did with Belice.

                            I don't know but sometimes FIBA seems pretty hypocrite and biased to me
                            Last edited by Lewis; 08-24-2009, 02:48 AM.
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                            • #15
                              the Dominican Republic just cutted Josh Asselin. Issue solved, I guess...
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