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Billy Bounce
10-29-2008, 12:04 PM
[I moved the posts concering the VTB League from the previous thread, I think the issue deserves a thread of its own. rikhardur]

Meantime the Russians are building the brand new league: VTB League (http://english.sport-express.ru/articles/9_239/) after VTB bank - the main sponsor

"At the moment the system of the League is as follows: the first stage is a Promo-Cup in the form of Final Eight that is to take place in Moscow very soon – 20-22 December. The following teams are to take place there: Russian CSKA, Khimki and Dynamo, Ukrainian BC Kyiv and Azovmash, Latvian ASK, Polish Sopot and Lithuanian Zalgiris."

"16 clubs is not a final figure. From now on at least one strong club can be delegated from such countries as Czech Republic and Bulgaria. Romania is on the rise; their teams outplay ours in European Cups. And we cannot omit Maccabi from Tel Aviv. It does not matter that the Israeli club is not in the project now, they showed interest to the VTB League."

It looks like MTA has found another league to compete in :D

Gruebler
10-29-2008, 02:06 PM
Can somebody elaborate on the "three final eights and a final four" system from 2009/10 on? I don't understand if they already want to increase the number of teams next season. If not, than well, it's a hand full of tournamants for the next years. Let's just see if VTB or other players want to proceed after the first few years and really build a full size league with home and away games, playoffs...

In principle, the idea of additional regional leagues sounds good. BalticBL, VTB league, Adrialeague. My guess is that the strong teams from western Europe (Belgium, France, Germany...) will follow this path sooner or later if their respective leagues can't develop as a whole.

porompompero
10-29-2008, 03:33 PM
It looks like MTA has found another league to compete in
:D
LOL! Is this serious?

uhg80
10-29-2008, 04:06 PM
I'm wondering what would happen to the Baltic League. If Zalgiris, Rytas and Riga will compete in the new league, the national championships and cups, plus Euroleague or -Cup, there would hardly be any room for the BBL games, I guess. This should be an issue as soon as the VTB guys come close to their goal of a league with 16 teams and 30 games.

Gruebler
10-29-2008, 04:38 PM
@rikhardur. By moving this topic into "more european discussion" you kind of made a statement – probably by accident - as you put this new league on a level with the regional leagues clearly geographically defined as Baltic League and Adriatic League are.

But is it really only a regional league? Or is it rather a eastern european alternative financed by Russia (as VTB's majority is owned by the state) to Jordi's Euroleague mostly backed by and put together from the mediteranean leagues? Even now the "regional" aspect is somehow defined in rather wide terms... if Maccabi really joins, we can't really consider it a regional league.

elaj
10-29-2008, 04:42 PM
LOL! Is this serious?
Maccabi competed already in Adriatic League few seasons ago.

vaslover
10-29-2008, 11:07 PM
In my opinion,if considering this competition as business-project we can see some huge gaps. Yes sure, with positioning on the first stage will all be normal ( who stronger lithuanians or russians,ukranians or latvians ),an as regarding the profitable article, for example sale of tickets?..
Clearly, that on the match of CSKA-Zalgiris the Moscow CSKA arena will be full, but on such matches as for example Dinamo-Barons or Triumph - Sopot, believe me no more than 800 fans will come. I,m sure that this tournament has no future. It,s would be 2-nd NEBL.

rikhardur
10-29-2008, 11:14 PM
@rikhardur. By moving this topic into "more european discussion" you kind of made a statement – probably by accident - as you put this new league on a level with the regional leagues clearly geographically defined as Baltic League and Adriatic League are.

But is it really only a regional league? Or is it rather a eastern european alternative financed by Russia (as VTB's majority is owned by the state) to Jordi's Euroleague mostly backed by and put together from the mediteranean leagues? Even now the "regional" aspect is somehow defined in rather wide terms... if Maccabi really joins, we can't really consider it a regional league.
Well yeah, but we don't know clearly what this league is yet :p Let's wait and see what happens, but you raised an important issue.

KWSN-Men
10-30-2008, 02:01 PM
It is written in Greece that Panathinaikos was invited together with MTA to join.

Basketball Player
10-30-2008, 04:11 PM
PAO, Maccabi, CSKA, Khimki, Dynamo, Zalgiris, BC Kyiv, Azovmash, ASK Riga, and Prokom Sopot all in the same league? Seems like an attempt to form their own new Eastern Euroleague.

LuDux
10-30-2008, 04:51 PM
PAO, Maccabi, CSKA, Khimki, Dynamo, Zalgiris, BC Kyiv, Azovmash, ASK Riga, and Prokom Sopot all in the same league? Seems like an attempt to form their own new Eastern Euroleague.

It's not so strange if you know that President of VTB bank is Ostap Bender

vaslover
10-30-2008, 10:14 PM
It's not so strange if you know that President of VTB bank is Ostap Bender
:D NEW VASUKI! And in 5 years they wish to see in tournament Los Angeles Lakers,San Antonio and football Chelsea... Our great POPULIST RFB president(Chernov) likes to tell beautiful stories. But in real,it,s just empty delusions...

Gruebler
12-02-2008, 09:19 PM
/push

Any news here? Does this year's tournament take place? If I'm not mistaken it should be in only three weeks time or so.

Edit
Ah. I should use google before posting questions to the public:
draw results (http://english.sport-express.ru/summary/1_3397/)

Again, they clearly say that 2012/2013 they want to have a full league program with 16 clubs and home/away games plus playoffs/F4.

But there's also some form of caveat in regards to the current economic situation:


Our League is a flexile project. Its structure can undergo different changes depending on the economic situation in our country and Europe."
(Source as above)

vaslover
12-02-2008, 11:34 PM
/push

Any news here? Does this year's tournament take place? If I'm not mistaken it should be in only three weeks time or so.

Edit
Ah. I should use google before posting questions to the public:
draw results (http://english.sport-express.ru/summary/1_3397/)

Again, they clearly say that 2012/2013 they want to have a full league program with 16 clubs and home/away games plus playoffs/F4.

But there's also some form of caveat in regards to the current economic situation:
(Source as above)
In Russia we have proverb: To talk is not to carry sacks... Our RFB president(mr.Chernov) likes to talk beautiful ideas, but from time to time his ideas looks like empty delusions.
As for tournament bright future,i don,t no man. We don,t know what can happen with f..ng economic situation tomorrow, so why we must be sure that a tournament will exist the day after tomorrow...

rikhardur
12-03-2008, 12:15 AM
Video of the draw and comments (in Russian) (http://video.sportbox.ru/bright/pa/20081201195100_20dekabraprojdetpromoturnirkubka_sl .asx?dGltZXN0YW1wPTEyMjgyNjA2NzkmdG9rZW49N2Y0YTBhM jU5MSZzaWduYXR1cmU9ZGNlZGMzZTI2OTEzZDliMWUwZDRlZDd iYzRiMGMzYWVlYTdkMjVjZA==)

robbe
12-20-2008, 01:17 PM
Migelitas' post (http://forums.interbasket.net/showpost.php?p=232272&postcount=65) reminds us that it indeed takes place, starting today. Oh wait, it has started already.

Zalgiris - BC Kiev 67:74
Zalgiris: Jonas Maciulis 19, Dainius Salenga 12, Loren Woods 10
BC Kiev: Kenan Bajramovic 24, Scoonie Penn 14, Jovo Stanojevic 13

Khimki - Azovmash 74:54
Khimki: Mike Wilkinson 13, Vitaly Fridzon 10, Kelly McCarty 9
Azovmash: Uchenna Nsonwu 11, Simonas Serapinas 10, Dijon Thompson 9

CSKA - ASK Riga 80:67
CSKA: Terence Morris 13, Erazem Lorbek 12, Ramunas Siskauskas 11
ASK: Kaspars Kambala 15, Bruno Sundov 15, Aigars Vitols 14

Dynamo Moscow - Asseco Prokom

jugoplastika
12-21-2008, 12:56 PM
http://www.cskabasket.com/news/?a=news&id=6090&lang=en

:D C`mon, post somebody a video, please! :D

Straight forward
12-21-2008, 01:55 PM
Šiškauskas is a lucky bastard :p

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3963/12297981351xe9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/12297981351xe9.jpg/1/w415.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img99/12297981351xe9.jpg/1/)

Mindozas
12-21-2008, 02:04 PM
http://www.cskabasket.com/news/?a=news&id=6090&lang=en

:D C`mon, post somebody a video, please! :D

There was just accident, not a fight or smth :)

Here (http://video.sportbox.ru/VidySporta/Basketbol/v_20081220175500_muzhchiny) you can watch the game, it happened on ~1:26:30. At first sight nothing serious, I even didn't notice that there was a contact, Planinic even managed to run to defence, but then felt bad. To be fair, it scared me a bit, cause I thought that it smth with his heart, especially when he collapsed when he was took out of the court :confused: But looks like everything will be ok with him

robbe
12-21-2008, 08:49 PM
Semi Finals:
CSKA - BC Kiev 88:58
CSKA: Erazem Lorbek 16/7 rebounds, Ramunas Siskauskas 15, Trajan Langdon 11
BC Kiev: Manuchar Markoishvili 17, Kenan Bajramovic 16/11 rebounds, Jovo Stanojevic 9

Khimki - Dynamo 67:61
Khimki: Anton Ponkrashov 16/8 assists, Mike Wilkinson 10/9 rebounds, Jorge Garbajosa 10
Dynamo: Bostjan Nachbar 16/9 rebounds, Travis Hansen 15, Hollis Price 9/4 assists

Placement Games:
ASK Riga - Zalgiris 67:95
ASK Riga: Kaspars Kambala 13, Bruno Sundov 12/8 rebounds
Zalgiris: Paulius Jankunas 21, Mantas Kalnietis 16, Zygimantas Janavicius 11

Azovmash - Prokom 88:57
Azovmash: Marc Salyers 21, Uchenna Nsonwu 16/14 rebounds, Simonas Serapinas 14/6 rebounds
Prokom: Ronnie Burrell 10, Filip Dylewicz 9

Edit: Janavicius corrected

Migelitas
12-21-2008, 09:24 PM
ASK Riga - Zalgiris 67:95
ASK Riga: Kaspars Kambala 13, Bruno Sundov 12/8 rebounds
Zalgiris: Paulius Jankunas 21, Mantas Kalnietis 16, Zygimantas Janavicius 10


Janavičius (no. 10) actually 11
http://www.basket.ru/index.php?dn=game&id=63878&ml=1

robbe
12-22-2008, 09:56 PM
So, not a surprise: CSKA winning the VTB Promo Tournament.

Final
CSKA - Khimki 70:66
CSKA: Victor Khryapa 15/5 rebounds/3 assists, Trajan Langdon 13, JR Holden 13
Khimki: Milt Palacio 19/4 assists, Vitaly Fridzon 12, Mike Wilkinson 10/6 rebounds

Game for 3rd place
BC Kiev - Dynamo 86:73
BC Kiev: Manuchar Markoishvili 28/5 rebounds, Kenan Bajramovic 15/6 rebounds, Alex Scales 11/7 rebounds/4 assists
Dynamo: Travis Hansen 15, Sergey Bykov 14, Bostjan Nachbar 13/6 rebounds

Game for 5th place
Zalgiris - Azovmash 82:78
Zalgiris: Jonas Maciulis 20, Dainius Salenga 20, Paulius Jankunas 15/15 rebounds
Azovmash: Uchenna Nsonwu 20/11 rebounds, Simonas Serapinas 18, Khalid El-Amin 15

Game for 7th place
ASK Riga - Prokom 76:56
Riga: Bruno Sundov 23/13 rebounds, Kaspars Kambala 23/8 rebounds, Aigars Vitols 10
Prokom: Filip Dylewicz 10/6 rebounds, Alexey Nesovic 10, Ronnie Burrell 9/8 rebounds

As I am hearing, attendance was minus 12 in average. Or was that the weather?

Roy M
12-22-2008, 10:09 PM
PAO, Maccabi, CSKA, Khimki, Dynamo, Zalgiris, BC Kyiv, Azovmash, ASK Riga, and Prokom Sopot all in the same league? Seems like an attempt to form their own new Eastern Euroleague.


I hope that Maccabi will play in this league. it's about the time for Maccabi to quit from the IBL once for ever.

EL and the new VTB good enough to Maccabi.

LuDux
12-22-2008, 10:41 PM
I hope that Maccabi will play in this league. it's about the time for Maccabi to quit from the IBL once for ever.

EL and the new VTB good enough to Maccabi.

I think VTB is supposed to be new EL, or EL-east

ArnoldPettybone
12-23-2008, 02:39 AM
I hope that Maccabi will play in this league. it's about the time for Maccabi to quit from the IBL once for ever.

EL and the new VTB good enough to Maccabi.
Again this nonsense? Get it into your head once and for all-no team can quit its national league and still play at ULEB competitions-period.

Basket_
07-01-2009, 06:06 PM
According to zalgiris.lt (http://www.zalgiris.lt/LT/naujienos/zinutes/4606/), from next season, league will be organized as a championchip with regular season, final 4. There will be 8 teams: Žalgiris Kaunas, CSKA Moscow, Khimki Moscow region, Uniks Kazan, Azovmash Mariupol, Donetsk, VEF Riga. 8th team should become Asseco Prokom, Kalev Tallin or Rock Tartu.
System: will be 2 groups, with 4 teams in each group. Every team will play 6 games in regular season, then 2 best team from each groups will go to Final 4, which should be arranged in February.

Demarr
07-01-2009, 09:49 PM
There will be 8 teams: Žalgiris Kaunas, CSKA Moscow, Khimki Moscow region, Uniks Kazan, Azovmash Mariupol, Donetsk, VEF Riga. 8th team should become Asseco Prokom, Kalev Tallin or Rock Tartu.

Kalev's manager confirmed to Estonian media that they are interested in joining, however nothing is certain because they are still negotiating.
Getting a place in VTB League would most probably mean that they wouldn't participate in EuroChallenge (if thats still the name), which seems like a reasonable decision by the club's management.

Anyways, I'd be very surprised if an Estonian team would be chosen.

Demarr
07-09-2009, 04:59 PM
BC Kalev/Cramo got the final, 8th, place. The group draw will apparently take place in few weeks.

Basket_
08-10-2009, 11:22 AM
So, here are the groups:

Group A:

Khimki Moscow region
Uniks Kazan
Donetsk
VEF Riga

Group B:

Žalgiris Kaunas
CSKA Moscow
Azovmash Mariupol
Kalev Tallin

Season will be opened in Moscow, with CSKA - Žalgiris game on October 14 or 15.

http://www.zalgiris.lt/LT/naujienos/zinutes/4701/

Billy Bounce
10-11-2009, 11:47 AM
VTB league does a terrible job of promoting itself.

I mean there is no dedicated web site , let alone on-line PBP and statistics :rolleyes:

Although the games' calendar can be found in the deeps of Russian Basketball Federation , but only in the Russian language section of the site (http://www.basket.ru/index.php?dn=season&to=position&id=180&ml=136)

The competition is supposed to be international , but somehow English section isn't updated from the last year VTB Promo :rolleyes:

The games start in 3 days :

14.10 VEF (Riga) - UNICS (Kazan)
15.10 BK Donetsk (Donetsk) - Chimki (Moscow)
15.10 CSKA (Moscow) - Zalgiris (Kaunas)
15.10 Kalev (Tallinn) - Azovmach (Mariupol)

Migelitas
10-13-2009, 05:35 PM
VTB league does a terrible job of promoting itself.

I mean there is no dedicated web site , let alone on-line PBP and statistics :rolleyes:



I think they just have heard you:
http://vtb-league.com/

Basket_
10-14-2009, 04:26 PM
http://www.ltv7.lv/lat/zinas_sports/430/tiesraide/?stream=1

VEF - Unics video live.

Richey666
10-14-2009, 07:30 PM
Are there neutral or home referees in this league?

Straight forward
10-15-2009, 09:02 AM
Are there neutral or home referees in this league?

Why to bother? If you will play good, you won't need to complain about referees.

If there would be any links of Žalgiris- CSKA tonight, that could be a good place for the links :rolleyes: I know Lithuanian SPORT 1 will broadcast, unfortunately I'm out of CCTV (or other stuff required).

auris1
10-15-2009, 10:17 AM
Why to bother? If you will play good, you won't need to complain about referees.

If there would be any links of Žalgiris- CSKA tonight, that could be a good place for the links :rolleyes: I know Lithuanian SPORT 1 will broadcast, unfortunately I'm out of CCTV (or other stuff required).

sportbox.ru

Mindozas
10-15-2009, 03:39 PM
CSKA - Žalgiris should be here (http://www.justin.tv/gyt1s) and here (http://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta/Basketbol/spbvideo_V-1950-15-oktyabrya-Edinaya-liga-VTB-Muzhchini-CSKA-ZHaligiris)

Game starts in ~20min

Edit: link from sportbox.ru works only in Russia :( first one seems ok

uRAgan
11-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Azovmash Mariupol 65-84 CSKA
Zalgiris 88-56 Kalev 88-56
Khimki 103-66 VEF
Donetsk 78-98 UNICS

Picek
11-03-2009, 10:39 AM
Donetsk 78-98 UNICSLončar and Popović (coming in from the bench) combined for 53 points :D
Popović 7/10 for three pointers (30 points in total), 6 assists and 4 rebounds..
nice allround game for him..
Unics started kind of slow (only won by 4 against VEF Riga away and by 6 against Enisey at home) into the season but now it looks like their coach put everything were it is supposed to be..
with CSKA being weaker then in previous years and Khimki still looking for their gameplan Unics could actually grab something more then a cup competition this year..

Basket_
11-18-2009, 06:52 PM
Žalgiris - Azovmash 82:69 (http://vtb-league.com/en/game.aspx?id=d28f9a38-501c-4d00-8b1e-4151508134a9)
Marcus Brown scored 37 points (7/11 three-pointer), Travis Watson (17 rebounds) and Tadas Klimavičius both with 13 points for Žalgiris.

Unics - Khimki 82:69 (http://vtb-league.com/en/game.aspx?id=b9738bd5-87a5-44f6-ac1b-e21a9b6406c4)

Vef - Donetsk 76:86 (http://vtb-league.com/en/game.aspx?id=541c0f26-6fb9-457e-be65-bb85e540e5cd)

Mindozas
12-07-2009, 02:19 PM
Nice win for Zalgiris over CSKA.

Why isn't Rytas playing there? Weren't they invited or did they decline the invitation? How about next year?

Rytas didn't show interest in it

LuDux
12-07-2009, 03:09 PM
They'll be begging to join next year when it becomes a legit league with 16 clubs.

I guess they chose to become top team in weak Euroleague instead of average team in the VTB League

Straight forward
12-07-2009, 03:34 PM
But what would Rytas know? It's not as if they possess the spirit of the 80s.

It's not as if current Žalgiris knows something about those glorious days, not even a smell. And off course three triples of smart ex "Trail Blazers" player has nothing to do with that aswell, specially when it's only a single game in VTB (experiment and nothing more so far).

Gytaz
12-07-2009, 04:15 PM
I think that Rytas made the right choice. It should be either VTB or BBL and I don't see any reason why they should have chosen VTB this year. And I'm sure they will be able to join the league next year, if they want to. Personally, I never liked the idea of VTB, but I guess there's nothing stopping it now and BBL (at least at its current form) will probably be dissolved in the upcoming years (or maybe not, we'll see, but it's too much for Žalgiris and Rytas to play in both leagues, especially if VTB expands).

Basket_
12-22-2009, 06:04 PM
According to lrytas.lt (http://www.lrytas.lt/-12615021451259857059-vieningosios-lygos-finalo-ketverto-varžybos-vyks-kaune.htm), VTB league Final 4 will be held in Kaunas.

Basket_
01-11-2010, 09:06 AM
So here are the final standings:

Group A:
1. Unics Kazan 5-1
2. Chimki Moscow Region 4-2
3. Donetsk 3-3
4. Vef Riga 0-6

Group B:
1. Cska Moscow 5-1
2. Žalgiris Kaunas 5-1
3. Azovmash Mariupol 2-4
4. Kalev Tallin 0-6

Final 4:

Semifinals (01-21):
Žalgiris-Unics
Cska-Chimki

Finals (01-22)

Gytaz
01-14-2010, 10:40 PM
Lietuvos Rytas coach Kurtinaitis said that he does not want Rytas to play in BBL and would like to join VTB next season. He said a lot of negative things about BBL and Latvian and Estonian basketball clubs kind of tactlessly... So I guess there are good chances to see Rytas in VTB next season.

Dreamcatcher
01-14-2010, 10:59 PM
Lietuvos Rytas coach Kurtinaitis said that he does not want Rytas to play in BBL and would like to join VTB next season. He said a lot of negative things about BBL and Latvian and Estonian basketball clubs kind of tactlessly... So I guess there are good chances to see Rytas in VTB next season.

If he still be a coach of LR, i doubt it if Rytas loose to Zalgiris in LKL finals. With Baynes and Borovniak it won't be hard to do.

LuDux
01-14-2010, 11:17 PM
Lietuvos Rytas coach Kurtinaitis said that he does not want Rytas to play in BBL and would like to join VTB next season. He said a lot of negative things about BBL and Latvian and Estonian basketball clubs kind of tactlessly... So I guess there are good chances to see Rytas in VTB next season.

And before that he said most players were chosen without him knowing about it. So i don't think his wishes will matter much

Gytaz
01-14-2010, 11:28 PM
And before that he said most players were chosen without him knowing about it. So i don't think his wishes will matter much

:D Well, you might be right, but still think that there's a good chance that Rytas will play in VTB

kecal
01-15-2010, 07:27 AM
Let me make a statement: I don't like this project, cause there's too much of USSR (or, say, Russian ambitions) in it right now. It may be only a business project, however, it has a certain symbolic meaning (especially during Žalgiris-CSKA games)... I don't like the thought of sentimental recreation of the Soviet era life... even if it is "only" basketball.

What I am really waiting for, is other Central European teams (not from former USSR) joining the league, or even Maccabi, as there were some talks about it. In this case it would be much more difficult to portray the league in some sort of "retro-Soviet" style. And it would make more sense for Lithuanian superclubs than battling weak Latvian or Estonian teams in the BBL...

Why am I talking about this? Because the Russian state masters are still dreaming about the lost empire, and they are very open on this topic... I don't "hate" Russians as a people, for sure, I'm just sceptical about the intentions of their elites... :rolleyes:

Gytaz
01-21-2010, 11:52 PM
Semi-finals:

CSKA - Khimki 71:66
Žalgiris - Unics 65:75

rikhardur
01-22-2010, 12:06 AM
Semi-finals:

CSKA - Khimki 71:66
Žalgiris - Unics 65:75
How do these semi-finals work? Looks like there will be more games tomorrow?

pohani komarac
01-22-2010, 06:56 AM
How do these semi-finals work? Looks like there will be more games tomorrow?

same as euroleague if i'm right? zalgiris-khimki for 3rd place and finals csk-unics

Mindozas
01-22-2010, 10:15 AM
same as euroleague if i'm right? zalgiris-khimki for 3rd place and finals csk-unics

Yup, it'll be like that. Everybody was waiting for the final between Zalgiris - CSKA, but Uniks was simply better yesterday than we. Our backcourt looked awful, except Pocius in the first half. In the other hand, such "cold shower" might be very good before game in Poland

pohani komarac
01-22-2010, 10:30 AM
Yup, it'll be like that. Everybody was waiting for the final between Zalgiris - CSKA, but Uniks was simply better yesterday than we. Our backcourt looked awful, except Pocius in the first half. In the other hand, such "cold shower" might be very good before game in Poland

One question. Why in Lithuania and Zalgiris you force Kalnietis on PG? He just doesn't have future on that position. From his erley days he should play on 2-3 spots. Hi isn't shooter or scorer but he would be much better than he is now on wing. PG is most reponsible position on court and it's clear he can't handle it. Mostley he hurts his own team.

Straight forward
01-22-2010, 11:24 AM
One question. Why in Lithuania and Zalgiris you force Kalnietis on PG? He just doesn't have future on that position. From his erley days he should play on 2-3 spots. Hi isn't shooter or scorer but he would be much better than he is now on wing. PG is most reponsible position on court and it's clear he can't handle it. Mostley he hurts his own team.

I was saying that for years. In other hand, Lithuania is lacking both- talented PG and the people who would know how to work with these players. All the coaches are out of ideas about it. So, Kalnietis at the moment is the best option at PG position after Šaras in Lithuania.

Mindozas
01-22-2010, 11:44 AM
One question. Why in Lithuania and Zalgiris you force Kalnietis on PG? He just doesn't have future on that position. From his erley days he should play on 2-3 spots. Hi isn't shooter or scorer but he would be much better than he is now on wing. PG is most reponsible position on court and it's clear he can't handle it. Mostley he hurts his own team.

Nobody forces him to play there, Kalnietis by himself said that he feels much more comfortable playin' as PG. He has mediocre skills to play there, while he has not better skills to be SG with his shooting abilities, however he's improving in that lately.

rikhardur
01-22-2010, 03:49 PM
same as euroleague if i'm right? zalgiris-khimki for 3rd place and finals csk-unics
Yeah you're right, nevermind :D

pohani komarac
01-22-2010, 04:49 PM
delas in starting 5 playing at C vs Mozgov:eek:

Mayo
01-22-2010, 07:42 PM
delas in starting 5 playing at C vs Mozgov:eek:

Coach Butautas seems to really like this guy,he complimented his performance in last two games in post game conferences and seems to have a lot of trust in Delas.

I like some things about Mario too,i dont expect him to be a big contributor this year but potential is definitely there and im looking forward to seeing some great performances by him.

Simonas123
01-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Zalgiris wins against Khimki 78:72. Read more (Butautas comment included) at: Pocius finds hot hand, Zalgiris takes third in VTB League (http://www.lithuaniabasketball.com/news-140-pocius-finds-hot-hand-zalgiris-takes-third-in-vtb-league.html).

Migelitas
01-22-2010, 08:07 PM
Threepointers by Pocius in last four games at this tournament 14/14, free trows 8/15 :D

pohani komarac
01-22-2010, 10:17 PM
Coach Butautas seems to really like this guy,he complimented his performance in last two games in post game conferences and seems to have a lot of trust in Delas.

I like some things about Mario too,i dont expect him to be a big contributor this year but potential is definitely there and im looking forward to seeing some great performances by him.

he suprised me today totaly. I toght Mozgov will eat him, but he did OK and showed some toughnes when he wrestled wit him knowing he played like crap i A1 leagu wich is very weak and him being undersized, skiny and being more PF than C. Hope he continiue with good work

Simonas123
04-12-2010, 11:06 AM
VTB United League should increase the participating team number from 8 to 12. Lietuvos Rytas and Asseco Prokom should join in. http://www.lithuaniabasketball.com/news-246-two-lithuanian-teams-in-next-years-vtb-league.html