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luuij_ss
09-01-2008, 06:02 PM
FIBA Americas Championship for Men

The FIBA Americas Championship is the American (THE CONTINENT NOT THE STATES) basketball championships that take place every two years between national teams of the continents. The Americas Championship is also a qualifying tournament for the FIBA World Championships and the Olympic Games. The next tournament in going to be from Aug. 19th 2009 to Aug. 30th 2009

The nations that have qualified so far are:

The US - automatically qualified
Canada -automatically qualified {I KNOW, IT SUCKS}
Puerto Rico- 1th place in Centrobasket
American Vigin - 2th centrobasket
The Dominican Republic -3th centrobasket {I meant Quizqueya not Dominica though}
Cuba {yeah, I did wirte CUBA!!} - 4th centrobasket
Argentina - 1th place South american championship
Uruguay - 2th south ameriacan
Brazil - 3th south american
Venezuela - 4th south american

luuij_ss
09-01-2008, 06:05 PM
actually venezuela was 3th and brazil 4th

possible men for dominican roster are:

Ronald Ramon G
Sammy Mejia PG
Trevor Ariza SF
Dominik Mejia G
DAMIEN MCSWINE PG
Edgar Sosa PG
Charlie Villanueva SF
Francisco Garcia SF
Reggie Charles SF
Ricky Soliver G
Marlon Martines F
Ivan Almonte F
Ricky Greer G
Jeff Greer G
Richard Hidalgo PF/c
Edward Santana F
Juan Araujo F
Quincy Bouby G
Pablo OZUNA F
Amauris Filion F
La BOA PAULINO G
RAPHAEL MADERA C
francisco Alberto Ozuna
Andy William Turner Baltazar G
JUAN PABLO MONTAS F
JOSE APOLINARIO PF/C
FELIX CRUZ F
MARLON MARTINEZ F
cALROS PANIAGUA F
Al Horford PF/C
Joshua Asslin C
Luis Flores PG/SG
Jaime Peterson PF
Miguel Angel Pichardo C/F
Jack Michael F
Flankin Westen PF
Luis Felipe Lopez Lopez PG/SF
Amauri Fillion SF
Manny Quezada PG/SG
Joel Ramirez PG
Andres Sandoval PG
Manuel Fortuna SG
Kelvin Pena PG/SG
Carlos Morban G
Franklin Western F
Eulis Baez F
Alejandro Flores F
Henry Lalane SF
Manuel Guzman G
Otto Vantroy PG
Hansel Salvador PG
Alejandro Salas PG

I particularly would choose:
Ronald Ramon G
Sammy Mejia PG/G
Dominik Mejia G
DAMIEN MCSWINE PG
Charlie Villanueva SF
Francisco Garcia SF
Ricky Soliver G
Ricky Greer G/SF
Jeff Greer G/SF
Al Horford PF/C
Joshua Asslin C
Luis Flores PG/SG
Trevor Ariza SF

luuij_ss
09-01-2008, 07:42 PM
Can someone help me with the puerto rican team??????????????????????????:confused:

cardenales
09-01-2008, 08:13 PM
Puerto rican team

Jose Barea
Carlos Rivera
Javier Mojica
Carlos Arroyo
Filiberto Rivera
Miguel Ali Berdiel
David Huertas
Jesus Verdejo
Joel Jones
Rick Apodaca (Probably not)
Angel Vasallo
Angel Alamo
Alex Galindo
Luis Villafañe
Angel Rosa
Peter John Ramos
Ricky Sanchez
Angelo Reyes
Victor Davila
Angel Luis Garcia
Alejandro Bimbo Carmona
Luis Colon
Dennis Clemente
Guillermo Diaz
Jorge Brian Diaz

Por ahora... [transl: For now...]
ahhh, se me olvidaba Andres Rodriguez. [transl: Oh I was forgetting Andres Rodriguez]
[Always provide a translation when writing in a language other than English ;) rikhardhur]

luuij_ss
09-01-2008, 09:10 PM
what about argentina does they are gonna send a b-level team, or so, cuz I wanna see Manu Playing

luuij_ss
09-01-2008, 09:27 PM
If somebody know what will be the US in th Americas tournamnet can yuo pleazzzzzzzzzzzze post it

J-Mart
09-01-2008, 11:36 PM
There is nothing on the USA yet, neither on the Argentina team. We have to see if Virgin Islands Raja Bell want to play this tournament

Saskibaloia
09-02-2008, 12:20 AM
The Uruguayans always send an A-grade squad of course which features a couple of players who play in Europe such as former NBA big man Estaban Batista in Israel for Euroleague power house Maccabi Electra Tel-Aviv, sharp shooter Nicolas Mazzarino of Tisettanta Cantu (Italy) or the athletic Mauricio Aguiar of Livorno (Italy). A couple of Uruguayans also have some NCAA experience such as Leandro Garcia Morales who plays as an import in Venezuela (Cocodrilos de Caracas) during the off-season.

The Uruguayans played quite well in the last FIBA Americas coming up short of a spot in the FIBA Olympic Qualification round to Canada. Batista was a monster for the "Celeste" with averages of 20ppg and tournament leading 14rpg and hopes to have another great tournament if Uruguay is to progress.

I believe that to enhance the chances of my adopted country is for the Uruguayan basketball players to make use of their dual citizenship (many Uruguayans have either a Spanish or Italian passport due to the mass immigration that occured in the early part of the 20th century from Europe to the River Plate countries - Argentina & Uruguay) and play overseas in Europe even if they are playing in the lower division. The "Celeste" do have a excellent one-two punch in the interior presence of Batista and the 3 point shooting of Mazzarino however, one or two more players must step up and provide greater support for these two. I noticed that the only time when the Uruguayans were able to win their games during the Pan-American Tournament or the FIBA-Americas was if both Mazzarino and Batista had an excellent game. However, once the oppossing team shut down one, Uruguay would struggle on offense and thus would affect their confidence on the defensive end as well. This reminds me of the Australian team during the 90s. Though they were successful they relied a lot on Andrew Gaze and Shane Heal. Like Uruguay, once one was shut down, the Boomers would immensely struggle on the offensive end.

Saskibaloia
09-02-2008, 12:36 AM
I forgot to mention about Jason Granger who is a Uruguayan (father's African American and his mother's Uruguayan) that plays in Spain's Estudiantes. He's a 6'4" point guard who plays more like a point forward according to "17 Deportes" (a versatile point who does a little of everything). However, according to "El Pais" of Uruguay his style of play is more leaning towards Michael Jordan's style. In the last FIBA-Americas campaign the 18 year old was included in the national team's training squad however, he was later cut in the 2nd stage of selection. I believe that if Uruguay is to look ahead they should do what many national squads do and add in a youngster (just like Australia's Patty Mills or Spain's Ricky Rubio) to allow exposure to that level of play.

luuij_ss
09-02-2008, 03:03 AM
There is nothing on the USA yet, neither on the Argentina team. We have to see if Virgin Islands Raja Bell want to play this tournament

I think that if Raja Bell ever play in an international competition, he would be wearing the re white and blue for the americans like Duncan did

luuij_ss
09-02-2008, 03:14 AM
The coach of the dominican nt has just quit
I'm gonna post this in spanish cuz I couldn't find it in english nor did I have time to traslate it. SORRY TO MY ANGLOS FRIENDS:

RENUNCIA A SU CARGO EL COACH SCOTT ROTH.

El dirigente del equipo masculino de baloncesto de República Dominicana, Scott Roth declaró que no regresará el próximo año como jefe principal del quinteto que competirá en el Torneo Premundial 2009, alegando que estará de “vacaciones familiares” para esa fecha.

“El contrato entre la Federación Dominicana de Baloncesto (Fedombal) y yo terminó con la conclusión de este campeonato”, dijo Roth muy molesto, luego que el país obtuviera la presea bronceada del evento.

“El objetivo se ha cumplido: clasificar al Premundial 2009”, dijo.
“No estamos contentos con un bronce, pero esa es la medalla que hemos ganado y debemos sentirnos orgullosos”, aclaró. Scott dijo que el baloncesto dominicano ha mejorado un mundo y seguirá mejorando cada día.

luuij_ss
09-02-2008, 03:58 AM
Why the puerto rican never bring Rick Apodaca to internatinal tournaments and when they do, they don't use him, at least not as he is supposed to.

I think Puerto Rico should first give the respect that Rick Apodaca desreves and 2th kiss his aZZZZ
hi is a terrific playA

cardenales
09-02-2008, 04:43 AM
USA as I write before somewhere, they are not going to sent a NBA players to the Tournament of America because they are already in thanks to their gold medal in Beijin.

Puerto Rico will also have Alex Falcon in their pre squad for next year tournament.

This is for Luuij-ss, Rick Apodaca is an excellent player with great potential but for some reason, lately he has not been playing as expected.

J-Mart
09-02-2008, 08:29 AM
I think that if Raja Bell ever play in an international competition, he would be wearing the re white and blue for the americans like Duncan did
he already wore the white yellow and green of the USVI in the 2003 CentroBasket (http://fibaamericas.com/torneos_roster_us.asp?t=WHNXHHXSZY&team=385&n=Virgin%20Islands&c=ISV)and if im not mistaken he was on the USVI roster of the ToA 2003 but didnt played

J-Mart
09-02-2008, 09:03 AM
So here comes renovation...

Bye to Falcon, Villafa~e, Narvaez, Santiago

Victor Davila, JB Diaz and Piwi Garcia will get a shot at the NT
Vasallo will be on the future editions
No word on Ayuso or Guillermo Diaz

Carlos Arroyo
Jose Juan Barea
Filiberto Rivera
Larry Ayuso
Rick Apodaca
Guillermo Diaz
Javier Mojica
AD Vasallo
"Buster" Figueroa
Joel Jones
Carmelo Antrone Lee
Angelo Reyes
Victor Davila
Jorge Bryan Diaz
Ricky Sanchez
"Piwi" Garcia
Peter John Ramos
Angel Rosa Clemente

damelo
09-02-2008, 09:26 AM
From what i saw from Ricky Soliver in nancy, he is far from having the level at the point. I would even prefer him Ricardo or Jeff Greer for that place even if both of them are not made for that place.

luuij_ss
09-02-2008, 03:55 PM
From what i saw from Ricky Soliver in nancy, he is far from having the level at the point. I would even prefer him Ricardo or Jeff Greer for that place even if both of them are not made for that place.

Risky soliver is more of a combo guard Stephon Mabury-like type of player That is a point guard but has as a first option himself, and the to pass the ball as seconed option.

He reminds me of The tiny guy from puerto rico that won the MVP in the centrobasket:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

and I don't think Neirther Ricky or Jeff or has a spot as a point in this team, because the team scares of SF and REAL SG, and besides, with sammy mejia who is a 6'6 point guard wiht a lot of talent that got a chance to play in the nba, The won be neede it there, the point is to crowded with Ronald raon a 3-pointer specialist, DAMIEN MCSWINE the dominican league MVP a guy who despite his age ih very experienced and maybe even edgar sosa
could made the team and with luis flores being the sixth man of the team, he'll be playing the point at times.

PRSURF
09-02-2008, 07:24 PM
I think that if Raja Bell ever play in an international competition, he would be wearing the re white and blue for the americans like Duncan didHe played with Virgin Island in 2003:
http://www.latinbasket.com/Tournament-of-the-Americas/basketball_2003.asp

alermac
09-02-2008, 07:24 PM
There is nothing on the USA yet, neither on the Argentina team. We have to see if Virgin Islands Raja Bell want to play this tournament
It's waaaaaaaaaay too early to think about Argentinean team. First of all, we have no coach since Hernández's contract is over, and his replacement won't be decided until next year. Second of all, it's a mystery how many of its NBA players will be available for it (Ginóbili and Oberto surely won't). And third, Argentina would surely get a FIBA invitation for the World Championship if they don't qualify (like Puerto Rico in 2006), so that may induce a not-so powerful lineup for this event, without most of the big names.

I can think of these:

PG
¿Pablo Prigioni?
Antonio Porta
Luis Cequeira
Maximiliano Stanic
Nicolás Gianella

SG
¿Carlos Delfino?
Paolo Quinteros
Javier Bulfoni
Julio Mázzaro
Diego García
Matías Lescano

SF
¿Andrés Nocioni?
¿Walter Herrmann?
Hernán Jasen
Roberto Gabini
Federico Kammerichs
Matías Sandes
Marcos Mata

PF
¿Luis Scola?
Leonardo Mainoldi
Leonardo Gutiérrez
Diego Lo Grippo
Diego Guaita
Fabricio Vay

C
Román González
Juan Pedro Gutiérrez
¿Robert Battle?
Damián Tintorelli
Pedro Calderón

ajaxballer
09-02-2008, 08:12 PM
Possible players for team Canada


Likely
Carl English
Joel Anthony
Levon Kendall
Jesse young
Olu Famitimi
Jermaine Anderson
Andy Rautins :(
Aaron Doornekamp :(

Questions marks

Sam Dalembert
Juan Mendez
Denham Brown
Dave Thomas
Rowan Barret
Jamaal Majlorie
STEVE NASH :rolleyes:

Other National team caliber players

Vladmir Kuljanin
Devoe Joseph
Tyler Kepkay
Rans Brempong
Kai Williams
Jermaine Bucknor
Osvaldo Jeanty
Russel Hicks
Willie Gallick
Alex Bougaieff
Sean Denison
Olu Ashalou
Junior Cadguan
Tristan Thompson - Ranked #1 in America in the class of 2010

luuij_ss
09-02-2008, 10:25 PM
Possible players for team Canada


Likely
Carl English
Joel Anthony
Levon Kendall
Jesse young
Olu Famitimi
Jermaine Anderson
Andy Rautins :(
Aaron Doornekamp :(

Questions marks

Sam Dalembert
Juan Mendez
Denham Brown
Dave Thomas
Rowan Barret
Jamaal Majlorie
STEVE NASH :rolleyes:

Other National team caliber players

Vladmir Kuljanin
Devoe Joseph
Tyler Kepkay
Rans Brempong
Kai Williams
Jermaine Bucknor
Osvaldo Jeanty
Russel Hicks
Willie Gallick
Alex Bougaieff
Sean Denison
Olu Ashalou
Junior Cadguan
Tristan Thompson - Ranked #1 in America in the class of 2010


The only thing I don't like about the Canadian team (I mean beside they are automatically of course) is the fact that they have way to many players that were'n born there who don't even canadian decendence. Like Dalembert, Mendez (this guy by the way is one of the most hated in the dominican along with A-RoD or like we call him now MADONA) Majlorie, and I think that English Too(not sure 'bout this one, I'm just sayin'), and of course Nash. I mean I'm not trying to offend you or anythin' like that but I do think FIBA should regulate that in a better way.;)

Now, if Canada ca gather at the same tournamnet the second list of player that include
Sam Dalembert
Juan Mendez
Denham Brown
Dave Thomas
Rowan Barret
Jamaal Majlorie
STEVE NASH
along with Carl English that team Is going to be an unstoppable Gigant teamfor sure that could compete with Argentina(at least a B-level team) brazil and puerto rico and maybe even lose for less that a 20 lead by th USA.

luuij_ss
09-02-2008, 10:43 PM
Can some one tell me if Paniagua is Puerto rican or dominican, and he is not on the NT

ajaxballer
09-02-2008, 11:31 PM
The only thing I don't like about the Canadian team (I mean beside they are automatically of course) is the fact that they have way to many players that were'n born there who don't even Canadian decendence. Like Dalembert, Mendez (this guy by the way is one of the most hated in the dominican along with A-RoD or like we call him now MADONA) Majlorie, and I think that English Too(not sure 'bout this one, I'm just sayin'), and of course Nash. I mean I'm not trying to offend you or anythin' like that but I do think FIBA should regulate that in a better way.;)

Now, if Canada ca gather at the same tournament the second list of player that include
Sam Dalembert
Juan Mendez
Denham Brown
Dave Thomas
Rowan Barret
Jamaal Majlorie
STEVE NASH
along with Carl English that team Is going to be an unstoppable Gigant teamfor sure that could compete with Argentina(at least a B-level team) brazil and puerto rico and maybe even lose for less that a 20 lead by th USA.
As far as I knew Mendez was raised in Montreal as was Dalembert. Maglorie was raised in Toronto and even has his name on a walk of fame here. Nash was raised in Canada and English was born and raised in Canada, he just has an accent because hes from the province of Newfoundland lol.

Heck a lot of players from Puerto Rico were born and raised in the U.S as were many other players that play for South American nations.

Canada's real problem is that they don't have the right people in place to organize the talent we have into one cohesive team. Hopefully that will change in the future. (European coach :) )

TDW
09-03-2008, 12:37 AM
Heck a lot of players from Puerto Rico were born and raised in the U.S

That is true but, remember Puerto Rico is part of USA anyways :rolleyes:

LFGC79
09-03-2008, 12:58 AM
As far as I knew Mendez was raised in Montreal as was Dalembert. Maglorie was raised in Toronto and even has his name on a walk of fame here. Nash was raised in Canada and English was born and raised in Canada, he just has an accent because hes from the province of Newfoundland lol.

Heck a lot of players from Puerto Rico were born and raised in the U.S as were many other players that play for South American nations.

Canada's real problem is that they don't have the right people in place to organize the talent we have into one cohesive team. Hopefully that will change in the future. (European coach :) )

With Puertorican parents. How many of those that were just mentioned have Canadian parents or even grandparents?

ajaxballer
09-03-2008, 01:14 AM
With Puertorican parents. How many of those that were just mentioned have Canadian parents or even grandparents?

Why should that matter if they were raised in Canada? I wasn't being critical of any other country I was just stating that its common for people to be raised in one country and play for the country they feel they should represent or in the country where they first started playing basketball. I think its great that players raised in the U.S or whatever will go back and play for the country they feel they should represent. This is the case for many African teams as well.

The only thing I don't really like is the situations where a player will play for a country as an import when they have no ties to that country what so ever, I can only over look it when the less competitive countries do it. (ie. Georgia, Bosnia, Japan)

luuij_ss
09-04-2008, 01:32 AM
Can some one tell me if Paniagua is Puerto rican or dominican, and he is not on the NT

J-Mart
09-04-2008, 01:37 AM
Can some one tell me if Paniagua is Puerto rican or dominican, and he is not on the NT
both;)

luuij_ss
09-04-2008, 03:04 AM
both;)

What you mean BOTH:mad: , what an answer man:eek: . Now I'm more confused:confused:

where are his parents from?,
where was he born?
where did he grow up?

has he represented any of those countries yet?

SO HE IS LIKE ARCANGEL:confused:

J-Mart
09-04-2008, 03:40 AM
he is dominican and puerto rican

like franklyn western and carlos payano

luuij_ss
09-04-2008, 03:32 PM
he is dominican and puerto rican

like franklyn western and carlos payano
I still don't get U but anyhow.if they'r puerto-rican. Why isn't he and payano in the NT then. U think they wouldn't make it????:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

J-Mart
09-04-2008, 03:53 PM
I still don't get U but anyhow.if they'r puerto-rican. Why isn't he and payano in the NT then. U think they wouldn't make it????:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Payano wouldnt make it
Western could make it but he decided to play for the Dominican Republic

J-Mart
09-05-2008, 05:02 AM
4 teams will advance to the WBC.
Mexico doubled their bid to host the tournament, for which only Argentina has expressed any interest in hosting, but has not given an actual offer.

Mojado
09-05-2008, 01:42 PM
How can a country host the TOA if they are not qualified for the tournament ? I bet they are thinking that they can get away with an extra spot right there.If no other country wants to host it, I even think it could be possible...what do you guys think ?

J-Mart
09-05-2008, 01:46 PM
it's possible, and it's likely to happen unless...

luuij_ss
09-05-2008, 03:38 PM
I heard bout that. a couple fo days ago. As a matter fo fact, I read in a mexican paper that said that is was almost a fact that Mexico will host the event.

Also Heard that the dominican president ordered His federation (yeah, "HIS" I know, that sucks) to take a bid to host it too.

But if mexico have as candidate cities to represent it. Cancun or the ore one (I don't remember the name) were they played the centrebasket. I think they won't win it cuz those
arenas are not at the TOA level() basically they'r not even arenas). IF THEY HAVE ANOTHER DECENT ARENA THOU THEy"LL WIN it for sure.


but I'm a little counfused now, I thought that the number of countries qualified that can
participate in a Toa was already reach. wasn't it???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????
??????????????????????????????????????????

I thought that just only a certain # of countries could play in TOA. if mexico host it aren't they surpassing that #. will FIBA allow that??????

luuij_ss
09-05-2008, 03:48 PM
it's possible, and it's likely to happen unless...


Unless The US ASK FOR IT.


believe me no one is gonna say "NOOOOOOO"

J-Mart
09-05-2008, 04:21 PM
the US wont ask for it, they dont need the games. They should not even play, they most probably going to send a NCAA team.

J-Mart
09-05-2008, 04:50 PM
http://www.elnuevodia.com/diario/noticia/baloncesto/deportes/mexico_aumenta_su_interes_por_la_sede/453445

actually.... FIBA Americas is actualy considering relieving USA from the tournament and giving Mexico the event

luuij_ss
09-05-2008, 07:51 PM
http://www.elnuevodia.com/diario/noticia/baloncesto/deportes/mexico_aumenta_su_interes_por_la_sede/453445

actually.... FIBA Americas is actualy considering relieving USA from the tournament and giving Mexico the event

yeah u'r right about The US. I forgot that. I hope Mexico make it.... but I'd rather see panama hosting this. It would be better for the sport specially in the region.


Also Heard that the dominican president ordered His federation (yeah, "HIS" I know, that sucks) to take a bid to host it too.

But like I siad before
But if mexico have as candidate cities to represent it. Cancun or the ore one (I don't remember the name) were they played the centrebasket. I think they won't win it cuz those
arenas are not at the TOA level(basically they'r not even arenas they'r just poor ball yards my neighborhood's is in better conditions. I swear). IF THEY HAVE ANOTHER DECENT ARENA THOU THEy"LL WIN it for sure, but if not I doubt it.

In your article's link it says that Cancun is one of the citites propused for the event but this city doesn't count with a decent place to play ball though

J-Mart
09-06-2008, 01:06 AM
they have a new arena under construction which was supposed to be ready for CentroBasket.

personally i wouldnt give them the games because of the huge failure of the CentroBasket games. SouthAmerica is due for a ToA

luuij_ss
09-06-2008, 01:34 AM
they have a new arena under construction which was supposed to be ready for CentroBasket.

personally i wouldnt give them the games because of the huge failure of the CentroBasket games. SouthAmerica is due for a ToA

but The SOUTH hasn't done anything to get the hosting. Argentina's proposition is not even offical

what about Borinque (u think they'r interested)

I'm telling u right now The dominicans will get a load of it, cuz they wanna hav the "HOMECOURT advantage" besides they think, it'll be an insentive for players that have been sceptical of playing for the NT because of conflicts with the federation like the GREERS.


I heard venezuela was interested too

PRSURF
09-06-2008, 02:59 AM
but The SOUTH hasn't done anything to get the hosting. Argentina's proposition is not even offical

what about Borinque (u think they'r interested)

I'm telling u right now The dominicans will get a load of it, cuz they wanna hav the "HOMECOURT advantage" besides they think, it'll be an insentive for players that have been sceptical of playing for the NT because of conflicts with the federation like the GREERS.


I heard venezuela was interested tooDominican Republic can't host this event because they host the past Tournament of the Americas in 2005;)

J-Mart
09-06-2008, 03:11 AM
Dominican Republic can't host this event because they host the past Tournament of the Americas in 2005;)
they can, but with a huge offer like the mexican one, and the fact that they hosted the ToA in 2005, its a longshot for the dominicans

I expect Puerto Rico to show some interest... but if I was the federation, i would abstain myself and try to host the olympic qualifiers

luuij_ss
09-06-2008, 04:19 AM
by the way???? does this tournament qualify the top something (let's say 3) for the olympics or at least the olympic qualifiers ro that's anothers story???? I thought that the centrobasket actually did that (NOT FOR THE OLYMPICS BUT FOR THE QUALIFIERS)...................




Anyone???????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????

J-Mart
09-06-2008, 04:30 AM
by the way???? does this tournament qualify the top something (let's say 3) for the olympics or at least the olympic qualifiers ro that's anothers story???? I thought that the centrobasket actually did that (NOT FOR THE OLYMPICS BUT FOR THE QUALIFIERS)...................




Anyone???????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????
top 4 qualify for the World Championship in Turkey
CentroBasket qualify to the WBC's Qualifier

zyx96
09-06-2008, 07:25 AM
Puerto Rico First Needs To Get Rid Of Felo Rivera And Manolo Cintron. With These Two Idiots In Charge We Will Never Have The Best Pr Team Possible That Plays To Its Full Potential. When You Put Players Like Alex Falcon, Villafane, Angel Rosa And Half The Team Is 6'3" Or Shorter You Cant Always Expect Great Results. There Is Definitely Talent In Pr But For Some Reason These Guys Dont Get It. Theyre Always Saying That Players Such As Angel Garcia, Victor Davila Or Jb Diaz Are Too Young To Be Considered. Since When Are Falcon, Villafane, Angel Rosa, Valenzuela Ect... National Team Material? I Miss The Coaching Days Of Julio Toro And The Ones Before Him, During Those Times They Would Select The Right Players For Pr And We Beat Good Teams Like Usa, Spain And Serbia. Now You Dont Know What To Expect. We Won Centrobasket Not Because The Coaching But Because Certain Players Stepped Up And The Competition Was Somewhat Weak.

alermac
09-06-2008, 09:11 PM
This last Centrobasket qualified teams for next year's Americas, which is a World Cup Qualifier. Next Centrobasket (2010) will qualify to 2011 Americas, which is 2012 Olympic Qualifier.

luuij_ss
09-07-2008, 02:33 AM
This last Centrobasket qualified teams for next year's Americas, which is a World Cup Qualifier. Next Centrobasket (2010) will qualify to 2011 Americas, which is 2012 Olympic Qualifier.


THANX FOR THE INFO:)
GOOD clarification BRO

bigyellow
09-07-2008, 10:50 AM
DOES ANYONE KNOWS WHATS GONG ON WITH BIG URUGUIAN TALENT Gustavo Panchi Barrera ?

alermac
09-07-2008, 05:38 PM
DOES ANYONE KNOWS WHATS GONG ON WITH BIG URUGUIAN TALENT Gustavo Panchi Barrera ?
Last I heard, he's playing back in Uruguayan league, and this year he joined Uruguay NT.

mvblair
09-08-2008, 01:19 PM
Puerto Rico First Needs To Get Rid Of Felo Rivera And Manolo Cintron. With These Two Idiots In Charge We Will Never Have The Best Pr Team Possible That Plays To Its Full Potential. Unfortunately, there are so many national teams that are mismanaged throughout the world. Team USA is lucky to be so well-organized. I suppose you're right that Falcon and Rosa aren't that great and could easily be replaced.
I Miss The Coaching Days Of Julio Toro Yes, of course!! Who doesn't?
We Won Centrobasket Not Because The Coaching But Because Certain Players Stepped Up And The Competition Was Somewhat Weak. I didn't watch any of the games. Why was tahe coaching so bad?

J-Mart
09-08-2008, 02:40 PM
Unfortunately, there are so many national teams that are mismanaged throughout the world. Team USA is lucky to be so well-organized. I suppose you're right that Falcon and Rosa aren't that great and could easily be replaced. Yes, of course!! Who doesn't? I didn't watch any of the games. Why was tahe coaching so bad?
yes:)

luuij_ss
09-08-2008, 05:47 PM
yes:)

but i don't think that the main reason why the puerto rican ball hasn't stepped up recently, cuz that happen with must team specially teams like canada, mexico, panama. the philippines, the dominican, Venezuela, and even the us (before the last olympic I meant.)

zyx96
09-09-2008, 12:22 AM
Manolo Cintron Has Many Times Made Questionable Decisions Like Playing A Bunch Of Short Players At The Same Time And Felo Selectiing Players Who Do Not Belong On The National Team. He Wont Even Give Sharif Fajardo The Opportunity To Once Again Be On The Team. Dont Get Me Wrong Sharif Is Not All That But He Is Better Than Falcon, Angel Rosa Or Villafane. As Long As Felo Rivera Is In Charge Manolo Wont Have To Worry About Beign Fired. I Hear That Some Of The Players On The National Team Dont Really Like To Play For Him But They Play Cause They Enjoy Playing For P.r. I Believe That If Manolo And Felo Left Players Such As Rick Apodaca Would Come Back To The Team. Maybe Even Guillermo Diaz Would Consider Playing, He Is Definitely A Player Who Would Help The Team Out Especially Since It Seems Like Larry Ayuso Wont Be On The Team Much Longer Cause Of Age And He Is Not The Player He Was A Few Years Ago. Maybe Even Daniel Santiago, Who Right Now Is Trying Out With The Houston Rockets Would Consider Playing Again. When Julio Toro Was There P.r. Played Well In The Olympics And The 2002 World Championships. With Manolo We Couldnt Even Make The Olympics. It Would Be Great If Julio Would Come Back Or Even Carlos Morales Maybe Even A Foreign Coach Could Do The Job.

LFGC79
09-09-2008, 01:07 AM
Manolo Cintron Has Many Times Made Questionable Decisions Like Playing A Bunch Of Short Players At The Same Time And Selectiing Players Who Do Not Belong On The National Team. He Wont Even Give Sharif Fajardo The Opportunity To Once Again Be On The Team. Dont Get Me Wrong Sharif Is Not All That But He Is Better Than Falcon, Angel Rosa Or Villafane. As Long As Felo Rivera Is In Charge Manolo Wont Have To Worry About Beign Fired. I Hear That Some Of The Players On The National Team Dont Really Like To Play For Him But They Play Cause They Enjoy Playing For P.r. I Believe That If Manolo Left Players Such As Rick Apodaca Would Come Back To The Team. Maybe Even Guillermo Diaz Would Consider Playing, He Is Definitely A Player Who Would Help The Team Out Especially Since It Seems Like Larry Ayuso Wont Be On The Team Much Longer Cause Of Age And He Is Not The Player He Was A Few Years Ago. Maybe Even Daniel Santiago, Who Right Now Is Trying Out With The Houston Rockets Would Consider Playing Again. When Julio Toro Was There P.r. Played Well In The Olympics And The World Championships. With Manolo We Didnt Do Much In The World Championships And Couldnt Even Make The Olympics. It Would Be Great If Julio Would Come Back Or Even Carlos Morales Maybe Even A Foreign Coach Could Do The Job.

Cintron did not coach the world championship 2006, it was Julio Toro.

J-Mart
09-09-2008, 01:34 AM
Manolo dont select the players. That's on Felo

Waneko
09-09-2008, 09:06 PM
I agree the U.S. or any other team that has automatically qualified for the Worlds or the Olympics should not play in any of the qualifying tournaments. It's a waste and FIBA should maximize the competition by instead adding another team who is hungry for a spot.

I'd love to go to the TOA if I can. I hope they don't have it in the DR again, my wife refuses to go back LOL. She might agree to Mexico but I can't see them hosting without participating.

Hmmm, imagine if Cuba was interested in hosting...

Czarkazem13
09-09-2008, 09:34 PM
I think that if Raja Bell ever play in an international competition, he would be wearing the re white and blue for the americans like Duncan did

I don't think he would be considered by the U.S. Plus, Duncan only reps the U.S. because there wasn't a senior team at the time. I believe he has sat out every match between the U.S. and Virgin Islands (though I could be wrong).

Czarkazem13
09-09-2008, 09:41 PM
Other National team caliber players

Vladmir Kuljanin
Devoe Joseph
Tyler Kepkay
Rans Brempong
Kai Williams
Jermaine Bucknor
Osvaldo Jeanty
Russel Hicks
Willie Gallick
Alex Bougaieff
Sean Denison
Olu Ashalou
Junior Cadguan
Tristan Thompson - Ranked #1 in America in the class of 2010

Bougaieff! He seems to pop up in Summer Leagues every once in a while. I was always surprised an Israeli team never picked him up do to the lack of quality big men there.

J-Mart
09-23-2008, 04:41 AM
Argentina and Mexico have made offers to host the games. Mexico's offer is by far the better according to endi.com. if they get selected to host the games, Cuba would lost their spot for the ToA.

Lewis
09-23-2008, 05:54 PM
Argentina and Mexico have made offers to host the games. Mexico's offer is by far the better according to endi.com. if they get selected to host the games, Cuba would lost their spot for the ToA.

This must be a joke:mad: isn't it:eek:

U gotta be kidding me!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: they'll give a team that didn't qualify and didn't deserve to like mexico a spot over cuba a team that not only is already qualified but that showed toughness in the Centrobasket...... That's a freakin' Shame !!!!!!!!!!

LFGC79
09-24-2008, 08:08 PM
This must be a joke:mad: isn't it:eek:

U gotta be kidding me!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: they'll give a team that didn't qualify and didn't deserve to like mexico a spot over cuba a team that not only is already qualified but that showed toughness in the Centrobasket...... That's a freakin' Shame !!!!!!!!!!

I concur; I was surprised to hear that as well. I think that it is a mistake by the newspaper, they are often wrong in sports, especially that reporter. I think that what was discussed originally was that USA would get the BYE, however, I think this is unfair for the USA because this would then be one less opportunity to accumulate points for the FIBA ranking by not participating in this tournament. They need the points as they have been displaced from the number one spot by Argentina.

Mojado
09-25-2008, 08:22 AM
Do you really think USA Basketball gives a dime about the FIBA rankings ? I heavily doubt that...
They would send a college-team anyway, so there would be no gold for the US in here.Any news out of the PR ? I mean wasn't the assembly two days ago ?

LFGC79
09-25-2008, 03:41 PM
Any news out of the PR ? I mean wasn't the assembly two days ago ?

In a place where everybody thinks alike, nobody thinks much.

alermac
09-26-2008, 05:28 PM
FIBA Americas press release:

The Executive Committee from FIBA Americas accepted Mexico as candidate to organize the FIBA Americas Championship 2009, pending the report from FIBA Americas Special Commission from that will be completed in 15 days.

PRSURF
09-26-2008, 08:22 PM
FIBA Americas press release:

The Executive Committee from FIBA Americas accepted Mexico as candidate to organize the FIBA Americas Championship 2009, pending the report from FIBA Americas Special Commission from that will be completed in 15 days.What a shame!

Mojado
09-26-2008, 09:47 PM
Hey...since nobody wants to do it,somebody gots to do it,right ? At least someone on the continent shows real interest to host the torneo, shame on the other countries who gave a damn...

Now lets enjoy another torneo at the beach if Cancun gets it.
I hope to be there too if I can get vacations...

PRSURF
09-27-2008, 12:15 AM
Hey...since nobody wants to do it,somebody gots to do it,right ? At least someone on the continent shows real interest to host the torneo, shame on the other countries who gave a damn...

Now lets enjoy another torneo at the beach if Cancun gets it.
I hope to be there too if I can get vacations...Ok, thats true bro, is better like this.

Lewis
09-27-2008, 12:56 AM
that's Just another FIBA AMERICAS' JOkes:eek: :eek:
so is it true that cuba is not going to participate cuz mex was included:confused: ??? IF SO, that'd be very disgusting and unfair. I'd feel sorry for Cuba cuz their been trying to put it together for such as long time....well...........what a shame cuban-americas are not allowed to compete.

Well, At least we got a country which is actually gonna try to play hard, in the states we don't even care about this (or actually any international) tounament.

cancun won't host it thou, cuz I've heard its arena sucked so much in the centroBall, that even some countries were complaining 'bout the awful condition in which this one was.

I wonder when mexico is gon' build a real place to pla proBall

Ain't the sport growing there???? according to what i've seen it actually is. Mexican-americans (at least the1 i know) play it more than soccer, som even like futball (believe it R not!!:) )

J-Mart
09-27-2008, 01:24 AM
I wonder when mexico is gon' build a real place to pla proBall


they already build it, just that it was not ready for centrobasket.

PRSURF
09-27-2008, 01:46 AM
that's Just another FIBA AMERICAS' JOkes:eek: :eek:
so is it true that cuba is not going to participate cuz mex was included:confused: ??? IF SO, that'd be very disgusting and unfair. I'd feel sorry for Cuba cuz their been trying to put it together for such as long time....well...........what a shame cuban-americas are not allowed to compete.

Well, At least we got a country which is actually gonna try to play hard, in the states we don't even care about this (or actually any international) tounament.

cancun won't host it thou, cuz I've heard its arena sucked so much in the centroBall, that even some countries were complaining 'bout the awful condition in which this one was.

I wonder when mexico is gon' build a real place to pla proBall

Ain't the sport groing there???? according to what i've seen it actually is. Mexican-americans (at least the1 that i know) play it more than soccer, som even like futball (believe it R not!!:) )CUBA will play bro!

Mojado
09-28-2008, 08:13 AM
@Lewis: Like the guys from PR mentioned before, Cancun is going to have a big arena ready next year and Mexico City has also a huge arena (Palacio..) where they hosted a CBA back in the days and some pre-season games of the NBA, so it cant be that bad.
I hope Cuba is going to participate as they qualified regularly and so they cant kick them out like that.
Which Cuban-American would be even good enough to join the national-team if he could ? There are no players in college let alone the pro ranks.Believe me, the current national-team is probably one of the strongest Cuba can field (The guys that fled the country years ago are too old these days.You may remember Herrera,Guibert,Matienzo and Borrell...).

But what was even more interesting then who is going to do the hosting is this consubasquet stuff. Are the results out of all these events still valid as they (FIBA) annuled the recent U-15 champs in South America.

J-Mart
09-28-2008, 08:16 AM
USA asked to be excused from the ToA, FIBA Americas ok'ed it, so Cuba will play on the tournament which most probably will be played in Mexico, since Argentina retired their offer.

cardenales
09-28-2008, 04:10 PM
Mojado, Karel Rosario is a cuban american that graduated of Florida International University when Carlos Arroyo study at this university. Karel is a strong 6-9 foward, with good rebounding skills. Have experience playing in Israel and last year played in Puerto Rico with the champions Capitanes de Arecibo. Other players with cuban blood are the Lopez twins that came out of Stanford. Now, they might not want to play with the cuban national team because of political issues now, that the big majority of cubans exile are against the communists.

Anyway, they should not let Cuba out of the TOA because they earned their participation qualifiying in Centrobasket.

J-Mart
09-28-2008, 07:45 PM
Roberto Herrera, Angel Caballero

cardenales
09-29-2008, 08:27 PM
Roberto Herrera y Angel Caballero ya no estan para jugar en la seleccion.

J-Mart
09-29-2008, 10:09 PM
Roberto Herrera y Angel Caballero ya no estan para jugar en la seleccion.
one opf them can still make it, i dont remember which one of them is. the other one is pretty much washed out

Mojado
10-01-2008, 11:54 AM
Herrera and Caballero are probably too old to be considered.
Rosario played in Israel ? When was that and for how long ? He was once in Europe for Try-Outs but did not sign a contract anywhere and played the last years in the crooked semi-pro ABA from what I know.He would have been a nice add to the NT although I doubt he would be better then Silvestre,Simon and others.

In other news: Consubasquet-boss calls FIBA Americas-boss "Mafia"...source: Latinbasket.com :p

Lewis
10-02-2008, 07:00 PM
Herrera and Caballero are probably too old to be considered.
Rosario played in Israel ? When was that and for how long ? He was once in Europe for Try-Outs but did not sign a contract anywhere and played the last years in the crooked semi-pro ABA from what I know.He would have been a nice add to the NT although I doubt he would be better then Silvestre,Simon and others.

In other news: Consubasquet-boss calls FIBA Americas-boss "Mafia"...source: Latinbasket.com :p

CUBAN PLAYING In different countries:

US:
Robin Lopez,former of Stanford, Phoenix Suns, C 7'0"
Brook Lope, New Jersey Nets, 7'0"

In Argentina
Borrell Lazaro, 202, F, Obras (LigaA)
Hechavarria Radbel, 188, G, Notre Rio Cuarto (Regional League)
Herrera Ruperto, 202, F, Ben Hur (LigaA)

In Bolivia
Chapotin Roberto, 209, C, Meta La Salle (Liga Superior)
Teran Carlos, 204, C, Nonis (Liga Superior)

Colombia
Gonzalez Rene, 197, G/F,Bucaros (Copa Federacion)
Soler Humberto, 183, G, Bucaros (Copa Federacion)

The Dominican Rep.
Cuesta Leonardo, 200, F/C, San Carlos (National District League)
Ramirez Oswal, 193, G/F, Mattica (La Vega League)

Spain
Balbe Kiyodsy, 200, F, Almendralejo (EBA)
Mato Juan, 200, F/C, Inelga BBC (EBA)

France
Vega Morejon Amiel, 202, F, Valence (N2)

Italy
Moreno Yankiel, 190, G, Vado Ligure (B1)

Mexico
Chapman Leider, 192, G, Pioneros (CIBACOPA)
Serrano Jorge, 186, G, Marineros (different Leagues)

Paraguay
Amaro Roberto, 197, F, Sacachispas (National League)

Puerto Rico
Caballero Angel, 192, G, Mayaguez (BSN)
Guibert Andres , 208, F/C, Ponce (BSN)
Herrera Roberto Carlos, 190, G, Guayama (BSN)
Rodriguez Luis, 185, G, Guayanilla (SuperLeague 25 A.T.)
Rosario Karel, 206, C, Arecibo (BSN)

Uruguay
Matienzo Richard, 202, F/C, Atenas (LUB)
Villena Alberto, 191, G, Cordon (Metropolitan)

CUBAN COACHES ABROAD
Algeria :Conde Manuel - M.C.Alger (D1)
Bolivia :Varona Oscar - Bolivian National Team
Chile :Ordax Carlos - Dep.Espanol (DIMAYOR) ; Sardina Ulises - Villarrica (DIMAYOR)
Colombia: Aurrecochea Claro - Alcaldia (Copa Federacion)
Ecuador: Hernandez Javier - Mavort (National League) ; Perez Reinaldo Paez-Espoli FDI (Pichincha Reg.League)
Guatemala: Diaz Ernesto - Guatemalan National Team; Pell William-Guatemalan National Team
Honduras: Valdez Cesar - Ingenieros T. (LSB)

Mojado
10-02-2008, 08:31 PM
No offense, but I dont see a player that would make an immediate impact on the national team from the list you copied from latinbasket.com.
Guibert and the other veterans had their best years in the past.

The Lopez brothers have no real interest to represent the country of their father that left the family when they were babies.Guess they dont even speak spanish.
Its a pity cuz both are the ones that would make a difference.

I remember Amiel Vega and Leider Chapman who fled Cuba some years ago and never made a bigger team.

Coach Manuel Conde won the national championship of Algeria this year.

rikhardur
10-04-2008, 02:56 PM
FIBA – Decision day approaches on 2009 FIBA Americas Championship hosts


SAN JUAN (FIBA Americas) - A decision on the host nation for the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship is likely to take place soon with Mexico looking to be the front-runner.

Alberto Garcia, the FIBA Americas president, told FIBA.com that there are hurdles that the Mexicans must clear before being awarded the event, however.

"The FIBA Americas Tournament for Women in 2009 will be hosted by Brazil, the city of Cuiabá," Garcia said.

"With Argentina having withdrawn their bid, Mexico remain the only candidate to host the FIBA Americas Tournament for men in 2009.

“Mexico have certain institutional issues to resolve before we can grant them this tournament, however.

“Mexico have a working commission that is recognized by FIBA but there is no federation recognized by FIBA.

“For them to be granted the tournament, they need to have a federation that is recognized by FIBA. It is probable that this decision will be taken in the next 15 days.”

The FIBA Americas has numerous other important issues to deal with, including the recent suspension of CONSUBASQUET.

CONSUBASQUET is the body that governs the South American zone of the FIBA Americas.

There are also the North American and Caribbean zones.

"The FIBA Americas has the faculty of authorizing the functioning of those zones and has also the faculty of taking that away,” Garcia said.

“What has been done in this case is to no longer recognize CONSUBASQUET for breach of contract.

“CONSUBASQUET did not respect a contract that FIBA Americas has for the Molten ball as well as the use of a ball that has not been approved by FIBA, hence violating the internal rules of FIBA.”

Garcia made it clear that federations themselves were not punished.

"The sanction is to the institution of CONSUBASQUET, not to the national federations because the latter are affiliated to FIBA, not the FIBA Americas,” he said.

"FIBA Americas has decided to suspend and punish the CONSUBASQUET zone, taking away all their functions.

“We have not sanctioned the executives of CONSUBASQUET because they have their own regulations and it is the national federations that belong to that zone that have the power to do that.”

What does the future hold for CONSUBASQUET?

"The 10 federations of South America will have to meet and decide what they will do with those executives that have put CONSUBASQUET in this position and that meeting will take place on October 7 in Asuncion, Paraguay,” Garcia said.

"They will then have to present their case to the FIBA Americas for the approval to be given so that they can be recognized again.

"For the time being, the FIBA Americas has taken over the technical and administrative side of CONSUBASQUET and the tournaments are taking place normally.

“We have a tournament in Ecuador that will be organized by the federation but with the control of FIBA Americas and it is not a complicated task as we have the capacity to organize and monitor all of the tournaments."
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/28625/arti.html

cardenales
10-07-2008, 09:43 PM
I am son of cuban parents and for the cubans first generation that left in the early 60s, the idea is to boycott everything that comes from Cuba. I also support that.

Mojado
11-11-2008, 04:14 PM
http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=TKAUGRDYKM

If they are awarding PR with the tournament, things would appear really dirty to me.
PR never applied in time to host the tournament, why awarding now the tournament to PR ? Because the president of FIBA Americas is Puertorican...this is how things are done in the western world.Know a friend that knows a friend that has a friend in the right spot.
After dumping the Anti-U.S.American Venezuelans , FIBA Americas with it's office in Puerto Rico, is trying to lure the tournament to Puerto Rico although Mexico is ready to host it.
This is really another sour apple right after the shameful refereeing during the US games at the Olympics. Where is Stankovic when you need him ?

PRSURF
11-11-2008, 05:54 PM
http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=TKAUGRDYKM

If they are awarding PR with the tournament, things would appear really dirty to me.
PR never applied in time to host the tournament, why awarding now the tournament to PR ? Because the president of FIBA Americas is Puertorican...this is how things are done in the western world.Know a friend that knows a friend that has a friend in the right spot.
After dumping the Anti-U.S.American Venezuelans , FIBA Americas with it's office in Puerto Rico, is trying to lure the tournament to Puerto Rico although Mexico is ready to host it.
This is really another sour apple right after the shameful refereeing during the US games at the Olympics. Where is Stankovic when you need him ?I know your frustration, but Mexico is lucky to be in the tournament thanks to USA, and you wanna host too??, pufff haha......just kidding, thats how it work bro.:o

J-Mart
11-12-2008, 06:32 PM
I think the disaster of CentroBasket and that Mexico didn't qualified directly has something to do with nobody wanting Mexico to host the tournament.

JGX
11-12-2008, 09:13 PM
Seriously, the only corruption going on here is Mexico being allowed to play in the tournament at all.

J-Mart
11-12-2008, 09:33 PM
Seriously, the only corruption going on here is Mexico being allowed to play in the tournament at all.

IMO... Mexico, Panama, Colombia and Chile should play for the last spot on the tournament.

Mojado
11-14-2008, 09:34 AM
Facts:
- No nation in the Americas wanted to host the TOA when it was the time to decide.Mexico was the one willing to do it, and that even before they lost in the Centrobasket.FIBA technically announced that Mexico is going to host it next year,atlhough a final approvement was set to be made after 15 days or so.To this day, no announcement was made by FIBA which is shameful for the professional governing body.
- Cancun is building a new gym which should be ready for the TOA next year, so no more small gyms in two different places.Even if they are using the smaller gym for some of the games (Do you actually watched the games of the last TOA in Vegas ? None of the teams brought a lot of fans to it),so let it be,as long as the gym is not far away like Chetumal.
- FIBA Americas offices are in PR ,and it's president is from there.
- I dont see any corruption regarding Mexico's bid to host the TOA, but is it a coincidence that the PR has now good chance to host it even though its too late and FIBA Americas is run by a Boriqua ?

If Mexico is not going to host the games, I would be in favor for an additional qualifying round between the next seeded teams like Mexico and Chile for the last place in the tournament.
I doubt that Cuba is getting the visa for PR as even at the last Caricom Games, the PR refused to give visa to Guyana's homegrown players while the diaspora players based in the States were allowed to enter San Juan.Now imagine how difficult it will be for Cuba...
I have no hard feelings against Boriquas, I really respect the people and I talked to JJ Barea, he is a good kid, so don't get me wrong on this one, this has nothing to do with nationalism, but rules. I know Mexico gets maybe a free place in the TOA if they are going to host it which is a great thing, but what happens if they don't ?

BTW: What the heck is Ayuso doing by playing in the D-League ? He really wants to get to the NBA with 31-years through the D-League ? I doubt it will work.Not because he has no talent but because of politics.
He should have taken the offer his agents proposed him for a team in Europe during the last summer.

J-Mart
11-14-2008, 05:21 PM
Facts:
- No nation in the Americas wanted to host the TOA when it was the time to decide.Mexico was the one willing to do it, and that even before they lost in the Centrobasket.FIBA technically announced that Mexico is going to host it next year,atlhough a final approvement was set to be made after 15 days or so.To this day, no announcement was made by FIBA which is shameful for the professional governing body.
- Cancun is building a new gym which should be ready for the TOA next year, so no more small gyms in two different places.Even if they are using the smaller gym for some of the games (Do you actually watched the games of the last TOA in Vegas ? None of the teams brought a lot of fans to it),so let it be,as long as the gym is not far away like Chetumal.
- FIBA Americas offices are in PR ,and it's president is from there.
- I dont see any corruption regarding Mexico's bid to host the TOA, but is it a coincidence that the PR has now good chance to host it even though its too late and FIBA Americas is run by a Boriqua ?

If Mexico is not going to host the games, I would be in favor for an additional qualifying round between the next seeded teams like Mexico and Chile for the last place in the tournament.
I doubt that Cuba is getting the visa for PR as even at the last Caricom Games, the PR refused to give visa to Guyana's homegrown players while the diaspora players based in the States were allowed to enter San Juan.Now imagine how difficult it will be for Cuba...
I have no hard feelings against Boriquas, I really respect the people and I talked to JJ Barea, he is a good kid, so don't get me wrong on this one, this has nothing to do with nationalism, but rules. I know Mexico gets maybe a free place in the TOA if they are going to host it which is a great thing, but what happens if they don't ?

BTW: What the heck is Ayuso doing by playing in the D-League ? He really wants to get to the NBA with 31-years through the D-League ? I doubt it will work.Not because he has no talent but because of politics.
He should have taken the offer his agents proposed him for a team in Europe during the last summer.
But no one was really happy with the organization an the basketball gym Mexico used to play the CentroBasket. Mexico was building a new gym for CentroBasket too. Everyone expected something, and we got other thing.

No tournament will bring fans if its hosted in the USA. They got the event cuz they were willing to pay a lot of $$ for it.

Puerto Rico has proven time and time again that in the Americas, we are #1 at hosting basketball events. Cuba managed to play on the World Baseball Classic with their whole team, and at Caricom, I saw the Cuban team win the bronze medal. I cant say there wont be any problem, because there always is, but somehow we always manage to fix it and the Cubans are allowed to enter PR.

I guess FIBA is worried that hosting the games in Mexico, with no NBA team, would be mortal for the tournament, so they must see Puerto Rico as a better choice.

PRSURF
11-14-2008, 07:35 PM
Facts:
- No nation in the Americas wanted to host the TOA when it was the time to decide.Mexico was the one willing to do it, and that even before they lost in the Centrobasket.FIBA technically announced that Mexico is going to host it next year,atlhough a final approvement was set to be made after 15 days or so.To this day, no announcement was made by FIBA which is shameful for the professional governing body.
- Cancun is building a new gym which should be ready for the TOA next year, so no more small gyms in two different places.Even if they are using the smaller gym for some of the games (Do you actually watched the games of the last TOA in Vegas ? None of the teams brought a lot of fans to it),so let it be,as long as the gym is not far away like Chetumal.
- FIBA Americas offices are in PR ,and it's president is from there.
- I dont see any corruption regarding Mexico's bid to host the TOA, but is it a coincidence that the PR has now good chance to host it even though its too late and FIBA Americas is run by a Boriqua ?

If Mexico is not going to host the games, I would be in favor for an additional qualifying round between the next seeded teams like Mexico and Chile for the last place in the tournament.
I doubt that Cuba is getting the visa for PR as even at the last Caricom Games, the PR refused to give visa to Guyana's homegrown players while the diaspora players based in the States were allowed to enter San Juan.Now imagine how difficult it will be for Cuba...
I have no hard feelings against Boriquas, I really respect the people and I talked to JJ Barea, he is a good kid, so don't get me wrong on this one, this has nothing to do with nationalism, but rules. I know Mexico gets maybe a free place in the TOA if they are going to host it which is a great thing, but what happens if they don't ?

BTW: What the heck is Ayuso doing by playing in the D-League ? He really wants to get to the NBA with 31-years through the D-League ? I doubt it will work.Not because he has no talent but because of politics.
He should have taken the offer his agents proposed him for a team in Europe during the last summer.The dream for Ayuso is to play for a NBA team, he have two or three years of good basketball, so no problem with that.

The president of Fiba Americas is from Dominican Republic and the Vice president from Argentina.;)

The only problem with Cuba is the players, they abandon his national teams.

Lewis
11-15-2008, 08:03 AM
Facts:
- No nation in the Americas wanted to host the TOA when it was the time to decide.Mexico was the one willing to do it, and that even before they lost in the Centrobasket.FIBA technically announced that Mexico is going to host it next year,atlhough a final approvement was set to be made after 15 days or so.To this day, no announcement was made by FIBA which is shameful for the professional governing body.
- Cancun is building a new gym which should be ready for the TOA next year, so no more small gyms in two different places.Even if they are using the smaller gym for some of the games (Do you actually watched the games of the last TOA in Vegas ? None of the teams brought a lot of fans to it),so let it be,as long as the gym is not far away like Chetumal.
- FIBA Americas offices are in PR ,and it's president is from there.
- I dont see any corruption regarding Mexico's bid to host the TOA, but is it a coincidence that the PR has now good chance to host it even though its too late and FIBA Americas is run by a Boriqua ?

If Mexico is not going to host the games, I would be in favor for an additional qualifying round between the next seeded teams like Mexico and Chile for the last place in the tournament.
I doubt that Cuba is getting the visa for PR as even at the last Caricom Games, the PR refused to give visa to Guyana's homegrown players while the diaspora players based in the States were allowed to enter San Juan.Now imagine how difficult it will be for Cuba...
I have no hard feelings against Boriquas, I really respect the people and I talked to JJ Barea, he is a good kid, so don't get me wrong on this one, this has nothing to do with nationalism, but rules. I know Mexico gets maybe a free place in the TOA if they are going to host it which is a great thing, but what happens if they don't ?

BTW: What the heck is Ayuso doing by playing in the D-League ? He really wants to get to the NBA with 31-years through the D-League ? I doubt it will work.Not because he has no talent but because of politics.
He should have taken the offer his agents proposed him for a team in Europe during the last summer.

distinguished gentleman not all of the things you said were really fair
I mean, first of all,If we have to choose who deserve the hosting the most regarless of who actually want it, I assure you that no 1 will say Mexico. I mean I'm not saying they suck or anything like that (i.e. I know najera) but they didn't even qualify. they'r lucky they'r playing cuz for me Panama deserved it that spot even more the mexican team. (if you think about it; panama and mexica finished in the same place in the centorbasket, so why should mexico get the spot and not panama??? MN....that makes you think, HUH!!!!!!!!!!)

second of all, compair with the puerto rican ones, the mexican gyms are nothig(not trying to insult u here,just being realistict),and besides. Puerto rican love basketball so all the games will be sold-out for sure, no matter who's playing (well, unless the domicans are palying).

and third The president of Fiba Americas is not even puerto rican:eek: . WHERE DID YOU GET THAT, DOOD?????:confused: :confused: :confused:

Mojado
11-17-2008, 04:11 PM
@Lewis: What you mean with the word "Dood" :confused: (Are you the same guy that claimed Haiti on this board before?)

I have no problem with the gyms and the fans in PR and if they would have applied in time for the TOA, then I would have given it to the PR due to the reasons you guys have given in this thread.But the applied after the deadline-simple as that.

Yes, the president is a Dominicano,I was wrong, and yes he does stuff he is not supposed to do (Including supporting a shady basketball league in the US called ABI)...like this one here: http://www.7dias.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=36592

And how opinions can differ:
http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread4_us.asp?r=CSBWSCIBGF

Lewis
11-17-2008, 06:32 PM
@Lewis: What you mean with the word "Dood" :confused:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dood
You have been living a lie your whole life, now I'm opening your eyes to the real world.
BTW you'r welcom!!!!!!!!!

J-Mart
11-20-2008, 08:56 AM
“Para enero ya debemos saber qué pasará con eso”, dijo Nigaglioni recordando que aspirar a ese torneo cuesta unos $4 millones y tras explicar que México ha confrontado problemas para confirmar la sede porque la Federación Mexicana de Baloncesto fue descertificada por el Comité Olímpico de México.


Mexican Basketball Federation descertified by the Olympic Committee? :confused:

Mojado
11-28-2008, 11:30 AM
The gym is finally ready:
http://contodoqroo.com.mx/nota.php?cual=647

And the new president is known too:
http://www.televisadeportes.com/basquetbol/026681/modesto-robledo-nuevo-presidente-fmb

So now all we have to do and wait what will be decided next week.

Lewis
02-10-2009, 04:20 AM
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/fibaEven/fibaAmerCham/p/newsid/25049/arti.html

Lewis
02-13-2009, 05:21 AM
Draw Expected

Mexico defines headquarters next week and teams of the Americas Pre World

AP

MEXICO - The next weeks will define the groups and venues for the Americas Baskeball Championship (qualifying for the 2010 Turkey Wolrd Championship) to be held this year in Mexico, reported on Thursday Modesto Robledo, president of the Mexican federation of this sport.

Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil, Uruguay, Puerto Rico,The Dominican Republic, Virgin Islands, Cuba, Canada and Mexico "the hosting teams" will be battling for four tickets to the world that will be held next year in Turkey.

FIBA-Americas recently announced that Mexico City and possibly other city in the country will be hosting the tournament, but did not identify the teams that played in each place.

"We are looking into the possibility of having the Federal District as sub-hosting. Also Baja California is being considered, Mexicali to be specific, but this will be defined next week along with the groups," Robledo said the AP.

The tournament is scheduled to take place from 18 to August 31. Headquarters in the capital would be the Palace of Sports, which has a capacity of about 22,000 fans.

Robledo said the lottery game schedule will be determined next month.



........

b3lowzro
03-31-2009, 01:29 PM
sorry to be OT here but can Jordan's sons play for the Mexican NT? Isn't that their mom Juanita used to be a Mexican.

Mojado
03-31-2009, 03:10 PM
I doubt that MJ's sons are simply good enough to make the team.
Maybe Marcus could be playing for the junior-national team if the Federation wants it and he has the ambition to rep his mom's country.

PRSURF
04-01-2009, 06:19 AM
sorry to be OT here but can Jordan's sons play for the Mexican NT? Isn't that their mom Juanita used to be a Mexican.
Bro, Juanita is puertorrican.

Luíz for 3
04-07-2009, 02:49 PM
The groups are already defined?? The USA won't participate, isn't it??

sixama23
04-08-2009, 01:27 AM
Hello from Greece! I think that without USA in the championship, Argentina and Brazil will easily be at the final, this year. What concerns me is which teams will take the 3rd and 4th place, in order to qualify for the World Championship. I was very disappointed by Canada last year at the Olympic Qualifying Tournament in Athens. I also think that if Puerto Rico had a better coach maybe would have qualified for the Olympics. I will be glad to see Uruguay qualifying for the World Championship cause i really liked very much Esteban Batista, when he was playing in Europe. But i think, it will be very tough for them.

J-Mart
05-08-2009, 09:21 AM
Charlie Villanueva is likely to play for DR.
The Dominican team is also trying to get Trevor Ariza to play for the NT.
The USVI is trying to get Tim Duncan to play for the NT.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/dominicanaseapertrecha-566412.html

Mindozas
05-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Charlie Villanueva is likely to play for DR.
The Dominican team is also trying to get Trevor Ariza to play for the NT.
The USVI is trying to get Tim Duncan to play for the NT.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/dominicanaseapertrecha-566412.html

Hmmm, Duncan played for USA already, so IMO he can't play for other NT what so ever. FIBA rules doesn't allow that

PRSURF
05-08-2009, 06:34 PM
The groups are already defined?? The USA won't participate, isn't it??Not ready defined and USA won't participate....

PRSURF
05-12-2009, 04:56 PM
When is the fiba americas tournament draw?

alermac
05-13-2009, 08:19 PM
Argentine sportscasters has reported that FIBA might strip Mexico of hosting the Tournament of Americas, not because of the swine flu but (surprisingly) because of lack of payment (just like Venezuela in 2007). Yet i can't find any confirmation about it.

PS: Is Venezuela going to be part of the Tournament? Remember they are no longer part of FIBA Americas after the conflict between both presidents

alermac
05-14-2009, 06:54 PM
Here (http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=NROCOBCTZU) is the confirmation. Mexico won't be hosting it.


Out of Mexico the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship.

SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - FIBA Americas have decided to withdraw the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship from Mexico.

Mr. Alberto Garcia, Secretary General of FIBA Americas, informed that due to the fact that the organizers failed to pay for the rights to host the tournament, the international regent body determined to withdraw the Seat from that country.

After some discussions held with the people in charge of organizing the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship for Men, a positive answer from their part was not received, and the situation worsened after the organizers failed to complete one of the scheduled payments and instead announced their intention of withdrawing the city of Mexicali (whose main sponsor was the Sport and Physical Culture Institute of Baja California) as a sub-seat for the Event.

Mr. Garcia also added that today a letter was sent to all the participant countries, with the exception of Mexico, with the purpose of offering them the possibility of organizing this important event.

Judging by his comments, and the fact that there is little time to organize the event, the countries shall present their answer on, or before, May 22nd. The Event is scheduled for August 26th to September 6th, 2009.

There have been reports that until now four countries have expressed their interest to evaluate this possibility in detail to the Secretary General. These countries are: Uruguay, Puerto Rico, Argentina, and Canada.

The 2009 FIBA Americas Championship qualifies the best four teams from the Americas to the 2010 FIBA World Championship to be held in Turkey.

Mojado
05-14-2009, 08:16 PM
Here are more details: http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/30201/arti.html

Is Mexico now out of the competition and who is taking their place in the field? The possible hosts are all already qualified...

FilWelsh
05-14-2009, 09:15 PM
possible men for dominican roster are:

Ronald Ramon G
Sammy Mejia PG
Trevor Ariza SF
Dominik Mejia G
DAMIEN MCSWINE PG
Edgar Sosa PG
Charlie Villanueva SF
Francisco Garcia SF
Reggie Charles SF
Ricky Soliver G
Marlon Martines F
Ivan Almonte F
Ricky Greer G
Jeff Greer G
Richard Hidalgo PF/c
Edward Santana F
Juan Araujo F
Quincy Bouby G
Pablo OZUNA F
Amauris Filion F
La BOA PAULINO G
RAPHAEL MADERA C
francisco Alberto Ozuna
Andy William Turner Baltazar G
JUAN PABLO MONTAS F
JOSE APOLINARIO PF/C
FELIX CRUZ F
MARLON MARTINEZ F
cALROS PANIAGUA F
Al Horford PF/C
Joshua Asslin C
Luis Flores PG/SG
Jaime Peterson PF
Miguel Angel Pichardo C/F
Jack Michael F
Flankin Westen PF
Luis Felipe Lopez Lopez PG/SF
Amauri Fillion SF
Manny Quezada PG/SG
Joel Ramirez PG
Andres Sandoval PG
Manuel Fortuna SG
Kelvin Pena PG/SG
Carlos Morban G
Franklin Western F
Eulis Baez F
Alejandro Flores F
Henry Lalane SF
Manuel Guzman G
Otto Vantroy PG
Hansel Salvador PG
Alejandro Salas PG

I particularly would choose:
Ronald Ramon G
Sammy Mejia PG/G
Dominik Mejia G
DAMIEN MCSWINE PG
Charlie Villanueva SF
Francisco Garcia SF
Ricky Soliver G
Ricky Greer G/SF
Jeff Greer G/SF
Al Horford PF/C
Joshua Asslin C
Luis Flores PG/SG
Trevor Ariza SF

That's 4 bonafide, quality NBAers. . . though only few as compared to their compatriots in Major League Baseball, which currently have 22 Dominicans playing. . . Villanueva and company, I think is more stronger than the traditional powerhouse Puerto Rico, I would like them to qualify and play next year's FIBA World championships. :cool::cool:

JGX
05-14-2009, 09:56 PM
The way this is going, Miami Tropics will end up winning the championship.

The fairest way to determine the last spot would be a playoff between Mexico, Panama, and Colombia, but I suspect that Mexico will end up keeing their place.

PRSURF
05-15-2009, 03:13 AM
That's 4 bonafide, quality NBAers. . . though only few as compared to their compatriots in Major League Baseball, which currently have 22 Dominicans playing. . . Villanueva and company, I think is more stronger than the traditional powerhouse Puerto Rico, I would like them to qualify and play next year's FIBA World championships. :cool::cool:How do you know that this Dominican team is better tha PR?, you see they playing in Centrobasket 08 with Garcia, Horford and co.??, I don't think so.:rolleyes:

alermac
05-15-2009, 03:49 AM
How do you know that this Dominican team is better tha PR?, you see they playing in Centrobasket 08 with Garcia, Horford and co.??, I don't think so.:rolleyes:
Dominican NT has definitely more star power, but we also saw what happened in 2005, that team also played well below the expectations.


The fairest way to determine the last spot would be a playoff between Mexico, Panama, and Colombia, but I suspect that Mexico will end up keeing their place.
I think the same. But i still not sure about whether Venezuela will be allowed to play, maybe Colombia or Panamá can fill in if necessary.

Dtown
05-15-2009, 04:20 AM
The whole tournament looks like a train wreck so far, and they only have a little over three months to get it fixed.

J-Mart
05-15-2009, 10:24 AM
Puerto Rico will ask for the rights to be host of the tournament. The city of San Juan have offered the Roberto Clemente Coliseum as a venue. The Choliseo could be another possibility. "Salvi" Vilella (Former GM of the PRNT and organizer of the ToA 1999 & 2003) is organizing the possible tournament in the island.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/sinsedeelpremundial-569124.html


With all due respect to the mexican posters here... Mexico hosting the ToA is like Puerto Rico hosting a major soccer tournament :D Im searching in thepaperboy.com for mexican newspapers and no mention about Mexico losing the tournament. :rolleyes:

J-Mart
05-16-2009, 08:59 AM
Dominican Republic started their preparation for CaribeBasket in Tortola.
Leandro Barbosa will play in the ToA.

FilWelsh
05-17-2009, 09:33 PM
How do you know that this Dominican team is better tha PR?, you see they playing in Centrobasket 08 with Garcia, Horford and co.??, I don't think so.:rolleyes:

we will see. . .:rolleyes::rolleyes:

LFGC79
05-18-2009, 04:44 PM
With all due respect to the mexican posters here... Mexico hosting the ToA is like Puerto Rico hosting a major soccer tournament :D Im searching in thepaperboy.com for mexican newspapers and no mention about Mexico losing the tournament. :rolleyes:

how about the simple fact that they did not qualify for the tournament should be enough to keep em out. As far as i am concerned there are 7 months to go till X-mas so i dont see the need to give them the privilege to participate.

Mojado
05-18-2009, 07:44 PM
With all due respect to the mexican posters here... Mexico hosting the ToA is like Puerto Rico hosting a major soccer tournament :D Im searching in thepaperboy.com for mexican newspapers and no mention about Mexico losing the tournament. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

This sounds like only big basketball countries are supposed to host such an event?
I call this ignorant and disrespectful towards countries that want to promote basketball within their borders and it does not matter if you put a smilie behind it or not. Calling yourself a moderator but you dont descalate but provoke, great job K2!

And Mexican newspapers did report about it. When I searched the web for more inside on the news, I found plenty.
Guess your antic web-searching tools need to be updated.

@LFGC79: Who should be instead participating in the tourney in your opinion? Spit some of your knowledge...and why didnt the Boriqua apply to host the tournament in the first place? Where was Puerto Rico when it was time to decide who is going to host the tournament? Don"t tell me your president,blah blah,blah...

LFGC79
05-18-2009, 08:09 PM
Mojado, dont take it personal, and calm down.

The truth us that in less than two years this is the second incident with the Mexican federation and their bid. In last years Centrobasket weren't the teams playing on a BB court that looked like a High School court because the coliseum was unable to be finished in time, contrary to what the Mexican federation promised? Even then Fiba did not take the tournament from Mejico.

I believe that it is important to host events and promote basketball in Mejico, actually the team in the last few years has improved significantly. Almost at the glory years of Mexican leyend Satanas Arroyo.

Now the whole thing with one of the cities (backing down). Did they even finish the coliseum? If you ask me this behavior is highly unprofessional, specially twice in a row, but that is my opinion you don't have to agree.

We host a lot of tournaments, not sure if you are aware of that, some other countries in the region actually complain about that. If I remember correctly there might have been an informal bid in placed by our federation, but a low ball one, at least that one would have been paid.

As for who should be participating, USA. They qualified and should at least send a college team. This is probably the first time that all this non sense has happened, just because they could not find a host city.

The truth (spit of my knowledge as you put it, which is common knowledge by the way) is that Mejico did not qualify, and underperformed at the last tournament. It should have been an easy qualify for them specially after a good TOA. For that reason, should they be included in the pre world tournament? Specially now that they F^%&%& everyone else by not placing the correct bid and leaving the tournament orphan.

You tell me what entitles your team to get that spot over other countries without this being an invitational tournament.

A four team mini-tournament should be done to decide the last spot.

Mejico need to change stuff and move people around at their federation so they can actually host events, and maybe convince their players to play for the NT.

alermac
05-19-2009, 01:24 AM
It's easy to see what happened: Mexico was awarded the ToA in advance, before having qualified, FIBA Americas always does that (and this goes as proof, they shouldn't do it again). Then Mexico stunned everybody by not qualifying; and that caused the series of events that only USA Basketball helped look barely respectable when it decided to quit the ToA, because dumping Cuba for Mexico would have been a joke.

That said, i can't figure out why Mexico wouldn't be able to host, since its league is growing rapidly and they've hosted both Americas League F4's. The money obviously should be there, the stadiums also should (come on, like Mexico needs to build new arenas!!), that must leave a political feud inside the Mexican Federation as the only conclusion.

Lewis
05-19-2009, 11:00 PM
According to FIBA Americas

Americas Championship WILL NOT BE IN MEXICO

FIBA Americas decided to withdraw the organization of the Americas Championship for Men 2009 Mexico.*

The Secretary General of FIBA Americas, Mr. Alberto Garcia reported that the failure to pay for the rights of organization, the international body of basketball in America decided to remove the seat to Mexico.*

After several conversations with the leaders of the organization of the Americas Championship 2009 Men unfortunately could not achieve a favorable response and the situation was aggravated by the lack of payment and withdrawal of the headquarters of Mexicali, which was the special sponsor Institute of Sport and Physical Culture of Baja California.*

Mr. Garcia also reported that today a letter was sent to all countries except Mexico, which are to provide the organizers of this important tournament.*

According to its terms and because of the short time to organize the tournament, the countries should give a response on or before May 22 next days. The date of the event is held from August 26 until September 6, 2009.*

It is anticipated that there are four countries that have notified the Secretary-General in San Juan, with interest to assess in detail the possibilities and we have communicated with the Secretary General. They were: Uruguay, Puerto Rico, Argentina and Canada.*

We recall that the FIBA Americas Championship ranks the best four-continent 2010 World Championship in Turkey.*

The governing board of the Basketball Federation of Puerto Rico (FBPR) will decide today how much money will offer the International Basketball Federation (FIBA America) for the championship seat Premundial male.*

Mexico lost the seat on Thursday after the event not to pay the rights of organization required by the governing body of sport in the continent.*

Mexico City and Mexicali were planning to organize the tournament, in which the August 26 to September 6 10 teams competing for four tickets to the world next year in Turkey.

Countries interested in the seat should give an official response on or before May 22, told the AP the general secretary of FIBA Americas, Alberto Garcia.*

"By Monday is called the Governing Board of the Federation to make a decision about our proposal. The decision to seek the seat is already taken, but what is discussed with respect to economic, "he said to Associated Press Nigaglioni Ruben, vice president of the FBPR.*

"Our immediate concern is the amount that we can offer in terms of duty. We must consider the economic viability of this type of event. But we are confident we can mount this tournament here would be successful and competitive in terms of support, because we have done before, "he said.*

Nigaglioni indicated that if they grant the island headquarters Americans championship, organizing the event would be provided by the employer Salvador Vilella, former general manager of the Puerto Rico national team.*

"We had anticipated that it could happen what happened to Mexico and had begun to make arrangements. That is why we are in a fairly advanced stage, "he said.

J-Mart
05-20-2009, 09:23 AM
Julio Toro likely to coach the Dominican Republic

http://www.elnuevodia.com/bailabachatatoro-571086.html

PRSURF
05-20-2009, 04:25 PM
Julio Toro likely to coach the Dominican Republic

http://www.elnuevodia.com/bailabachatatoro-571086.htmlPuff Julio Toro is a stupid bastard, for that he left the NT? :mad:

LFGC79
05-20-2009, 04:28 PM
Julio Toro likely to coach the Dominican Republic

http://www.elnuevodia.com/bailabachatatoro-571086.html

very very concerning if you ask me

Lewis
05-21-2009, 12:03 AM
FIBA defines TUESDAY
THE SEAT OF THE Americas. (19-05-09)

FIBA Americas will make the final decision on the headquarters of the Pre World Championship for men on Tuesday, May 26.

Alberto Garcia, secretary general of the organization, said he has had contact with five countries to take on organizing the event after which Mexico was stripping the title of the event was hosted last week for lack of royalty payments.

Federations interested in taking on the event are Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Brazil and Uruguay, which share the events of interest to Argentina. All countries have extensive experience with this type of tournament, as they have been hosting tournaments Pre World and Pre Olympic basketball as well as regional games.

Brazil, inclusive, is hopeful to hold the Olympic Games of 2016 and hosted the Pan American Games in 2007.

"The federations have shown interest are Brazil, which is very interested, Dominican Republic, which has the backing of his government, and Uruguay, whose minister of sports, together with Minister of Sport Argentina, has shown interest in the event, "Garcia said from San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Leader explained that basketball intercontinental countries have until Friday to submit their proposals. Canada was one of the countries concerned when the seat became vacant, but when no communication is received from northerners......

Lewis
05-21-2009, 12:13 AM
very very concerning if you ask me

is he good? (I've never heard of 'im before)
I read somewhere that is was coaching in Venezuela, the level of play there is really low.

who's puerto rico's coach btw?

rikhardur
05-21-2009, 12:18 AM
is he good? (I've never heard of 'im before)
I read somewhere that is was coaching in Venezuela, the level of play there is really low.

who's puerto rico's coach btw?
He's one of the best PR coaches ever, if not the best.

LFGC79
05-21-2009, 12:29 AM
is he good? (I've never heard of 'im before)
I read somewhere that is was coaching in Venezuela, the level of play there is really low.

who's puerto rico's coach btw?

probably one of our best coaches, back home he is like our phil jackson. He coached the VEN NT in the early nineties. Won several tournaments in leagues in PR, venezuela, Mejico etc. Toro coached the team in 2004 athens when we beat the USA, he was the one that 1st played the matchup zone to team USA.

The only bad thing that I see is that he inflates the player's egos too much, like arroyo.

Our current coach Manolo Cintron, god help him, is close to legally retarded. Has no basketball instinct, lets the players do run and gun basketball. The team has less than 3 plays. And has had physical alterations with players. He was the assistant to Toro.

alermac
05-21-2009, 06:13 AM
Argentina and Uruguay proposing a joint bid? Now that's interesting. Too bad the ToA isn's big enough to justify a joint bid, only a World Championship is.

Lewis
05-21-2009, 06:25 AM
Toro is probably one of our best coaches, back home he is like our Phil Jackson. Won several tournaments in leagues in PR, and venezuela, etc. Toro coached the team in 2004 athens when we beat the USA, he was the one that 1st played the matchup zone to team USA.


and what about Flor Melenendes? I heard he may coach Venezuelae;

what'sthe difference of style between them? who's better on defense? who's got a better (more organized offense)

sorry if I'm asking too much :p

alermac
05-22-2009, 07:02 AM
and what about Flor Melenendes? I heard he may coach Venezuela;
Apparently, Venezuela has named Argentinian Guillermo Narvarte as NT coach. He's coached many years in Argentina (Ben Hur and Peñarol at the LNB), as well as the U19 team in 2007 and a few clubs in Venezuela.

J-Mart
05-22-2009, 09:36 AM
Puerto Rico will bid for the tournament today, having the Roberto Clemente Colliseum as the host arena and the city of San Juan as the main sponsor. The president of the organizing group is Salvi Vilella.

Argentina showed interest in hosting the tournament too.

The announcent will be made no later than the May 29.

If the tournament is held in Puerto Rico, Mexico could play if not punished for failing to host the tournament. If Argentina is selected, then the 10th participant could be Colombia.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/traselpremundial-571921.html

Lewis
05-22-2009, 05:01 PM
FEDOMBAL Denies Seeking to Host Americas (21-05-2009)

Engineer Frank Herasme, president of the Dominican Federation of Basketball (Fedombal) denied on Thursday that the country is on those seeking the seat for the next Americas Championship.

Herasme said that "after they removed The tournament from Mexico for failing to comply with payment of the $ 1.5 million, has unleashed a hunt for other countries to achieve the assembly of the same."

"We're not concerned, nor the slightest idea we can organize such an event, which brings so much logistical and economic investments," said Herasme.

He emphasized that the name of The Dominican Republic came out in the foreing (Puerto Rican & Venezuelan) media among the nations seeking the seat of Americas Tournament, along with Puerto Rico, Canada, Brazil, Venezuela, Uruguay and Argentina.

He noted that the date is established by Fibaamericas from August 26 to September 6, so we only need the formal stage of the competition.

"We're not interested in organizing it" categorically denied Herasme.

He said that an event of this magnitude, only to get the seat you need to pay 1.5 million dollars (54 million pesos), plus lodging, meals, housing, transportation and domestic air (terrestrial), technical costs, safety and personal work.

"In addition, one of the key parts is the cost of the national team that range from 650 thousand dollars to 2 millions," said the chairman of the Fedombal.

Herasme exclaimed that "the country is unable to invest this money in these times of global crisis."
.....

Lewis
05-22-2009, 05:37 PM
BRA - Brazil calls 20 players for national team:



RIO DE JANEIRO - Brazilian national team head coach Moncho Monsalve named the first 20 players that will play for a spot in the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship.

The practices start on June 29 in Sao Paulo and their preparation includes many warm up games in Brazil and in other countries.

The 20 players called are:

NAME – POSITION – AGE – HEIGHT – TEAM

Eduardo Machado (Duda) – Guard – 26 Years – 1,91m – Flamengo (RJ)
Fulvio de Assis – Guard – 27 Years – 1,87m – C.B. Granada (Spain)
Raul Togni Neto – Guard – 17 Years – 1,84m – Pitágoras/Minas (MG)
Vitor Benite – Guard – 19 Years – 1,90m – Pinheiros (SP) – SP
André Stefanelli (Dedé) – Shooting Guard – 24 Years – 1,96m – Paulistano (SP)
José Roberto Duarte (Betinho) – Shooting Guard – 20 Years – 1,95m – Winner/Limeira (SP)
Jonathan Tavernari – Shooting Guard – 21 Years – 1,96m – BYU Utah (USA)
Jhonatan Luz dos Santos – Shooting Guard – 22 Years – 1,96m – Merida (Spain)
Carlos Alexandre (Olivinha) – Small Forward – 26 Years – 2,02m – Pinheiros (SP)
Guilherme Teichmann – Small Forward – 25 Years – 2,04m – Winner/Limeira (SP)
Jeferson Willian – Small Forward – 26 Years – 2,07m – Flamengo (RJ)
Marcus Vinicius Toledo – Small Forward – 22 Years – 2,03m – Plus Pujol Lleida (Spain)
Jordan Burger – Power Forward – 18 Years – 2,03 – Sevilla Cajasol (Spain)
Lucas Cipolini – Power Forward – 22 Years – 2,06m – BYU Hawaii (USA)
Murilo Becker – Power Forward – 25 Years – 2,11m – Pitágoras Minas (MG)
Rafael de Sousa (Mineiro) – Power Forward – 20 Years – 2,07m – Paulistano (SP) – MG
Bruno Fiorotto – Center – 24 Years – 2,08m – Winner/Limeira (SP)
Hatila Passos – Center – 24 Years – 2,07m – Rhone Herens Basket (Switzerland)
Paulão Prestes – Center – 21 Years – 2,08m – Clinicas Rincón Axarquia (Spain)
Rafael Araújo (Baby) – Center – 28 Years – 2,11m – Flamengo (RJ)

Average age: 23 years
Average height: 2,00m

Players like Leandrinho Barbosa, Anderson Varejao, Tiago Splitter, Marcelinho Machado, Marcelo Huertas, Nené Hilario, among others will be joining the team later.

SCHEDULE:

29 of June until July 8 – First phase of training in São Paulo
July 10-12– Lisbon International Tournament (Portugal) Teams: Angola, Brazil, Finland and Portugal
July 14-19 – Lusofonia Games (Lisbon / Portugal)
July 27 to August 2 – Second phase of training in São Paulo
3-4 of August - Super 4 (Argentina) National teams: Argentina, Australia, Brazil and Uruguay
7-8 of August- Eletrobrás International Tournament in Rio de Janeiro, Teams: Argentina, Australia, Brazil and Uruguay
11-15 of August - Third phase of training, in São Paulo
18-20 of August - Tuto Marchand Cup in San Juan, Puerto Rico teams: Argentina, Brazil, Canada and Puerto Rico
August 26 to September 6 - 2009 FIBA Americas Championship

alermac
05-22-2009, 11:29 PM
If the tournament is held in Puerto Rico, Mexico could play if not punished for failing to host the tournament. If Argentina is selected, then the 10th participant could be Colombia.
That just goes to show FIBA Americas it needs to expand the ToA. There are decent teams left out because of those only 10 spots.

LFGC79
05-23-2009, 12:16 PM
and what about Flor Melenendes? I heard he may coach Venezuelae;

what'sthe difference of style between them? who's better on defense? who's got a better (more organized offense)

sorry if I'm asking too much :p

Flor Melendez is considered a coach of fundamentals and tight defense, a no BS coach. I think he is a very good coach and sometimes our players can behave like little princesses. He might be too tough for them to feel comfortable. He started the developmental program for tall guys back home.

Maybe Alermac can help me with this one, but back home it is said that in the late 80's early 90's he modified the developmental/youth basketball program in Argentina and set up their youths program. Back way before the golden era of Argentinian basketball, BTW Juan Espil had a hell of a shot.

here is a classic Flor Melendez moment starts on minute 1:06.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx6jCS3CM-I

Lewis
05-26-2009, 02:08 AM
SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - The offers sent by the Federations of Puerto Rico and Uruguay to be the host of the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship didn't meet the expectations of FIBA Americas. The Secretary General of FIBA Americas, Mr. Alberto Garcia, will talk to both federations to see if they offer can be improved before Tuesday, May 26.

Puerto Rico and Uruguay are the only two countries interested in hosting this event. No other country sent an offer prior to May 22 which was the deadline. The event will be played from August 26 until September 6.

The 2009 FIBA Americas Championship will have ten countries who will play for the top four spots in order to qualify for the 2010 FIBA World Championship. FIBA Americas will announce the host country next week.

http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=SBFOXTPMIF

Mojado
05-26-2009, 01:28 PM
The failure of Mexico is due to politics as Carlos Hermosillo http://www.el-universal.com.mx/notas/587861.htmlstepped down and he was the one who confirmed the money while the new president refused to pay:
http://www.quetalvirtual.com/~planodep/deportesnuevo/nota.php?id=3642

they searched for alternatives when Mexicali suddenly backed out: http://www.exonline.com.mx/diario/noticia/adrenalina/basquetbol/buscaran_soluciones_para_el_premundial_de_basquetb ol/597478and Mexicali felt not responsible for their failure since the estimated costs doubled since Mexicali announced to host the tourney:
http://www.zetatijuana.com/html/EdicionActual/Deportez-NoSeVan.htm
It seems everyone involved is a little bit guilty for the failure...

Neverthenless, I hope FIBA Americas is going to have a mini-qualification round with Mexico, The best Caribbean-team left and Colombia for the last spot.

BTW: Funny, that PR ,which is being praised here on the board, did not get the berth now easily...seems not everything is so great like is being described here in Boriqualand.
Still, hope it's going down there in PR during the Summer,no love lost.

alermac
05-27-2009, 02:32 AM
Puerto Rico and Uruguay are the only two countries interested in hosting this event. No other country sent an offer prior to May 22 which was the deadline. The event will be played from August 26 until September 6.
Puerto Rico has hosted in 1999 and 2003 (all Olympic Qualifiers).
Uruguay has hosted in 1997 (World Qualifier).

Puerto Rico evidently has more hosting experience and political power, and of course a better weather since it will be winter in Uruguay.

Puerto Rico has many nice stadiums, but Uruguay would use the Cilindro which is also pretty big.



If you ask me, i'd love Uruguay to host it, becase i can attend Montevideo easily:D but i don't think it'll happen-

J-Mart
05-27-2009, 12:54 PM
is he good? (I've never heard of 'im before)
I read somewhere that is was coaching in Venezuela, the level of play there is really low.

who's puerto rico's coach btw?

Venezuela is a good league. Top 5 leagues in latinamerica along with Mexico, PR, Brazil and Argentina. Maybe top 3.

Julio Toro is the creator of the monster called Carlos Arroyo. He shaped him, the good things and the bad things about him. The best coach to come out of the island. The philosopher of basketball. Julio is the perfect fit for the dominican team, specially if they advance to the WBC, where they will face the euro teams which always have trouble against Toro's matchup defense. Something against Toro is that I dont remember him faring well with a team with no PG.

LFGC79
05-27-2009, 04:40 PM
Venezuela is a good league. Top 5 leagues in latinamerica along with Mexico, PR, Brazil and Argentina. Maybe top 3.

Julio Toro is the creator of the monster called Carlos Arroyo. He shaped him, the good things and the bad things about him. The best coach to come out of the island. The philosopher of basketball. Julio is the perfect fit for the dominican team, specially if they advance to the WBC, where they will face the euro teams which always have trouble against Toro's matchup defense. Something against Toro is that I dont remember him faring well with a team with no PG.

could not agree more. i think he would be an excellent match up for the team. This could be a great cycle for the dominican team. You are right with the PG thing as well I think.

Good luck guys.

Lewis
05-27-2009, 07:20 PM
no PG?
-the dominican team has the ex-NBA Sammy Mejia, he's 6'6, Played in Italy, Playing in Greece now
-The Israel's League Scoring-Leader,and also ex-NBA Luis Flores (he's played in Italy and France too)
-The All-Star French League - Ricky Greer (second in votes this year for the MVP) also last year Finals mvp. lead he's team in assits, scoring, 3 pts, and steals and is second in rebounds
-Jose Oliviero,(NCAA) among Assists Leaders(in Lithuania ) and amogn scoring leaders in France
-Carlos Morban (NCAA) and Latvia League All-star
-Kelvin Penia (Developed in Spain) I think he's playing in the same team Toro is coaching in Venezuela.

and ther's another dude called Ricky Soliver, playing in The Czech Rep, and a kid called Edgar Sosa, but I think he's way too raw and inmature, nad he's kinda stuck right now, maybe he need another year or so to develop. Manny Quezeda is also a good NCAA player.

LFGC79
05-28-2009, 04:58 PM
tournament will be hosted by San Juan

http://www.elnuevodia.com/confirmado:sanjuanseralasededelpremundial-574460.html

Lewis
05-29-2009, 01:22 AM
PUR – Puerto Rico selected as host of 2009 FIBA Americas Championship:

5/28/2009




SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) – After the FIBA Americas Executive Committee decided to retire Mexico as host of the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship, which is a qualifier for the 2010 FIBA World Championship in Turkey, a process started to find another country interested in being the organizers of the most important continental competition.

Last night after an important meeting with Puerto Rican Basketball Federation President, Ruben Nigaglioni, an agreement was reached to be the organizer of the tournament.

The event will be held at Roberto Clemente Coliseum who was the host of the 1999 and 2003 FIBA Americas Championships. The Puerto Rican Federation has a lot of experience having this type of event and the 2009 event will be played from August 26 to September 6 in San Juan and the top 4 teams enter the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

FIBA Americas Secretary General, Alberto Garcia, was very grateful to the Uruguayan Federation who was also interested in the event and specially to the Puerto Rican Federation who will organizze the most important continental championship. After an evaluation of the technical, commercialization, television, and other important aspects that will guarantee a competitive and economical success, it was decided to give the Puerto Rican Federation the tournament.

This event has Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Venezuela for the South American Sub-Zone (ABASU), Canada for North America and for the Central American and Caribbean Zone (CONCENCABA), Cuba, US Virgin Islands, Mexico, Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. The United States qualified for the 2010 FIBA World Championship after winning the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

Puerto Rico has been host of a World Championship qualifier in 1993 where they won Silver. They were also host to three Olympic qualifiers starting in 1980 and also in 1999 and 2003 where they won a medal in two competitions (Gold in 1980 and Bronze in 2003).

The last FIBA Americas Championship (World Qualifier) was played in 2005 in the Dominican Republic where Brazil won Gold, Argentina Silver and Bronze for Venezuela. The last FIBA Americas Championship was the Olympic qualifier in 2007 held in Las Vegas as the United States dominated the whole tournament to capture the gold medal.


http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=QQOQIJEIZQ

J-Mart
05-29-2009, 08:34 AM
Puerto Rico Tourism Company is trying to move the semis and the finals to the Choliseo.

J-Mart
05-29-2009, 08:40 AM
no PG?
-the dominican team has the ex-NBA Sammy Mejia, he's 6'6, Played in Italy, Playing in Greece now
-The Israel's League Scoring-Leader,and also ex-NBA Luis Flores (he's played in Italy and France too)
-The All-Star French League - Ricky Greer (second in votes this year for the MVP) also last year Finals mvp. lead he's team in assits, scoring, 3 pts, and steals and is second in rebounds
-Jose Oliviero,(NCAA) among Assists Leaders(in Lithuania ) and amogn scoring leaders in France
-Carlos Morban (NCAA) and Latvia League All-star
-Kelvin Penia (Developed in Spain) I think he's playing in the same team Toro is coaching in Venezuela.

and ther's another dude called Ricky Soliver, playing in The Czech Rep, and a kid called Edgar Sosa, but I think he's way too raw and inmature, nad he's kinda stuck right now, maybe he need another year or so to develop. Manny Quezeda is also a good NCAA player.

some of those guys are not on the same level as the competition they will face. They are not as good as the Marcelo Huertas, Barbosa, Arroyo, Barea, Filiberto, Pepe Sanchez, Prigioni, Vazquez, etc... Some of those guys are not even good enough for their own NT. And a couple of them are not even PG's.


With Puerto Rico hosting, I would say it's pretty much a given that Mexico will play in the ToA.


Jose Juan Barea is questionable for the ToA (shoulder surgery)

Lewis
06-01-2009, 02:15 AM
BUENOS AIRES (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - Argentinean center Fabricio Oberto will wait on the opinion of his doctors in order to participate in the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship to be played in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

"I played less this season, I am not tired, but it depends on what the doctor’s say to me next week to see if I have to take medication or stop playing. I have been calling Sergio Hernandez without any luck so far," said to Ole newspaper in Argentina.

There is still hope that Oberto will play as he will be key in the aspirations of Argentina as Manu Ginóbili and Andrés Nocioni stepped down because they are recovering from injuries.

"I never lost the will to play for the national team and I never retired. It is special for me and it helps you to gain rhythm and add confidence," he added.

Oberto thinks that Argentina has a good possibility to qualify for the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

"The national team, it doesn't matter who goes, they always prepare well and achieve many things like in Las Vegas. If you can, then come and play."

In 2005 Argentina won Silver in the FIBA Americas Championship with only two players repeating from the 2004 Olympics.

Luis Scola, Pablo Prigioni, Carlos Delfino, Román González, Paolo Quinteros, among others are expected to play.
http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=WKWRLMNFMP

Lewis
06-03-2009, 05:25 PM
PUR – FIBA Americas Championship Draw on Tuesday:

6/2/2009




SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) – The draw of the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship will be held on Tuesday, June 9 at 11:55 a.m. at Coliseo Roberto Clemente of San Juan, Puerto Rico, home of the tournament that will be played from August 26 until September 6.

This tournament has Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Cuba, Dominican Republic, México, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, U.S. Virgin Islands and Venezuela playing for four of the qualifying berths for the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

The ten national teams will be divided into two groups of five teams each. The host country (Puerto Rico) will select the group they want to participate when the two final selections are made.

The draw will be live on www.fibaamericas.com

Lewis
06-09-2009, 01:22 AM
PUR - FIBA Americas Championship draw this Tuesday live on www.fibaamericas.com:

6/8/2009




SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) – The draw of the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship will be held on Tuesday, June 9 at 11:55 a.m. at Coliseo Roberto Clemente of San Juan, Puerto Rico, home of the tournament that will be played from August 26 until September 6.

This tournament has Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Cuba, Dominican Republic, México, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, U.S. Virgin Islands and Venezuela playing for four of the qualifying berths for the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

The ten national teams will be divided into two groups of five teams each. The host country (Puerto Rico) will select the group they want to participate when the two final selections are made.

The draw will be live with video on www.fibaamericas.com and the competition schedule will be announced shortly after the draw is done.

rikhardur
06-09-2009, 09:04 PM
PUR - FIBA Americas Championship Draw held in San Juan:

SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) – FIBA Americas, in cooperation with the Puerto Rican Basketball Federation, hosted the draw of the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship.

The 2009 FIBA Americas Championship will be played at Roberto Clemente Coliseum in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Ten of the best national teams will be and the top four qualify for the 2010 FIBA World Championship to be played in Turkey.


Please find below the result of the draw, as well as the complete event schedule.


Composition of Groups:

Group A: Canada, Uruguay, US Virgin Islands, Mexico

Group B: Brazil, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Cuba


Event schedule:


Preliminary Round:


August 26:


US Virgin Island vs. Uruguay

Venezuela vs. Argentina
Mexico vs. Puerto Rico

Dominican Rep vs. Brazil

Free/Libre: Canada and Cuba

August 27:


Canada vs. Mexico

Cuba vs. Dominican Rep
Puerto Rico vs. US Virgin Island

Brazil vs. Venezuela


Free/Libre Uruguay and Argentina

August 28:


Uruguay vs. Puerto Rico

Argentina vs. Brazil
US Virgin Island vs. Canada

Venezuela vs. Cuba


Free/Libre Mexico and Dominican Rep

August 29:


Mexico vs. US Virgin Island

Dominican Rep vs. Venezuela
Canada vs. Uruguay

Cuba vs. Argentina
Free/Libre Puerto Rico and Brazil

August 30:


Puerto Rico vs. Canada

Brazil vs. Cuba
Uruguay vs. Mexico

Argentina vs. Dominican Rep
Free/Libre US Virgin Island and Venezuela


*The order of the games and times will be announced later.

*Puerto Rico has the right to select their final opponent in the first round (Canada).


Second Phase (1-4 of September)

Before the beginning of the second phase, the local team (Puerto Rico) will again have the right to select the order of game days for the second phase. After the second phase all eight teams are ranked in one group and the top four teams Qualify for the semi-finals.


Semifinals (September 5)

The first place team faces the fourth place and the second faces the third team in the quarterfinal standings. The winners play for gold and losers for bronze in the finals.


Finals (September 6)
http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=ZZKNQWONIZ

PRSURF
06-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Great group for us!:eek::D

Dtown
06-09-2009, 10:35 PM
Wow not only will Puerto Rico have the home court advantage they also got the easier group by far.

J-Mart
06-09-2009, 10:42 PM
Don't like it. We should have chosen Group B. We will matchup against Group B in the second round.

alermac
06-10-2009, 12:39 AM
The draw isn't that important. All top 8 teams will face each other anyway.

Still, now it's safe to say Cuba has virtually zero chance of getting to the second round.

Lewis
06-10-2009, 05:57 AM
Still, now it's safe to say Cuba has virtually zero chance of getting to the second round.

hey, and that goes to Mexico as well.



The draw isn't that important. All top 8 teams will face each other anyway.

it is more important than what you may think. Since the wins and losses are acumilative, by I mean, that they count for the second round, so Since the PR is in a (way too) easy group that probaly means that they have a step in Turkey alredy cuz they will porbaly win all the games, and go to the second round with 4 win already, so even if they were to lose the rest of the games in the second round, they'd still have a somewhat big posibility to qualify to the Wolrd cup or championship or however is it that is called, and if they just win one more game in the second round they are already in.

So I expect to see PR in the Finals r fighting for the Bronze Medal

Mojado
06-10-2009, 10:24 AM
I hope Mexico proves all doubters here wrong and beats USVI, Canada and Uruguay ,which I think could be possible if Najera and others are healthy and ready to play . Never underestimate Mexico...and Cuba is also having a team that plays for years together, but their group is tougher then Mexico's...

LFGC79
06-10-2009, 04:27 PM
http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=ZZKNQWONIZ
do we also get to choose where the other teams sleep and what they eat lol

We have huge advantages in this tournament, if we dont qualify for the WC I will look down in shame and cry at night for a year.

I totally agree with K2 regarding the second round matchups, at least we get to choose the order.

FilWelsh
06-10-2009, 04:59 PM
PUR - FIBA Americas Championship Draw held in San Juan:

6/9/2009


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SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) – FIBA Americas, in cooperation with the Puerto Rican Basketball Federation, hosted the draw of the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship.



The 2009 FIBA Americas Championship will be played at Roberto Clemente Coliseum in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Ten of the best national teams will be and the top four qualify for the 2010 FIBA World Championship to be played in Turkey.



Please find below the result of the draw, as well as the complete event schedule.



Composition of Groups:



Group A: Canada, Uruguay, US Virgin Islands, Mexico



Group B: Brazil, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Cuba



links: http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=ZZKNQWONIZ


i thought there are 10 teams but groupings of the draw stated otherwise as there are only 8 teams. Even the host team, Puerto Rico is missing same with Argentina. I'm confused :confused::confused:, please can someone clarify these groupings?

rikhardur
06-10-2009, 05:13 PM
i thought there are 10 teams but groupings of the draw stated otherwise as there are only 8 teams. Even the host team, Puerto Rico is missing same with Argentina. I'm confused :confused::confused:, please can someone clarify these groupings?
Must be a mistake by fibaamericas website. PR is in group A and Argentina in group B.

A
Canada
US Virgin Islands
Mexico
Puerto Rico
Uruguay

B
Argentina
Brazil
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Venezuela

rikhardur
06-11-2009, 01:43 PM
PUR – Brazil, Argentina and Dominican Republic in tough Group B

SAN JUAN (FIBA Americas Championship) - South American heavyweights Argentina and Brazil and a potentially potent Dominican Republic have been drawn in Group B of the FIBA Americas Championship that tips off on August 26 in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Venezuela, who competed at the 2006 FIBA World Championship, and Cuba, ended up in the same pool at Tuesday’s draw ceremony in San Juan.

Canada, Uruguay, the US Virgin Islands, Mexico and hosts Puerto Rico are in Group A.

The tournament is the qualifying event for the 2010 FIBA World Championship in Turkey, with four teams advancing to next year’s big event.

The United States are also in the FIBA Americas but they have already booked a place for Turkey by virtue of their Olympic gold-medal win over Spain.

They are not taking part in the Puerto Rico-based tournament.

The Dominican Republic are hoping to have NBA players Trevor Ariza, Charlie Villanueva, Al Horford and Francisco Garcia in their squad.

The president of the country’s basketball federation, Frank Herrasme, knows that hard games await his team.

"There is an initial disadvantage but it's an advantage in the second round,” Herrasme said of Group B.

“What it does is establishes how vital it is to arrive at the tournament in perfect condition as there is no room to start cold or without synergy in the group."

The top four sides from each group progress to the Second Round in Puerto Rico and take on the national sides that advance from the other pool.

Puerto Rico’s interim president Ruben Nigaglioni said: "This is a favourable placing for us.

“Group B is very hard for the first round considering it has Argentina, Brazil and the Dominican Republic."
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/30489/arti.html

rikhardur
06-16-2009, 03:36 PM
FIBA Americas - Official website of the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship launched

GENEVA/SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - FIBA Americas, in cooperation with FIBA, would like to announce the launching of puertorico2009.fibaamericas.com, the official website for the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship to be held in San Juan, Puerto Rico from August 26 to September 6.

Puertorico2009.fibaamericas.com will have all the details about the event who qualifies the best four teams for the 2010 FIBA World Championship. This website will have live stats, news, photos, interviews, reports and previews. You can also follow your favorite team and players with stats, news and picture during the event.

The 2009 FIBA Americas Championship will be played at Coliseo Roberto Clemente in San Juan and will have the ten of the best national teams in America.

The participants are Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, US Virgin Islands and Venezuela.

FIBA Americas organizes this event every two years and are qualifiers for Olympics and FIBA World Championships. This tournament, which is a World Championship qualifier, was celebrated for the last time in 2005 in the Dominican Republic where Brazil won gold by beating Argentina in the finals.

The Local Organizing Committee will announce the ticket sale information soon.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/30559/arti.html

Lewis
06-24-2009, 04:54 AM
MEX - Mexico calls their national team:

6/23/2009




MEXICO - ADEMEBA gave a list of 22 players called for the Mexican National Team that will train for the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship to be played in San Juan, Puerto Rico from August 26 to September 6.

The practices begin on June 28 at Centro Nacional de Alto Rendimiento in Mexico City under head coach Arturo Guerrero.

The players called are: Omar Quintero, Enrique Zuñiga, Pedro Meza, Christopher Hernandez, Ray Castillo, Anthony Lever-Pedroza, Miguel Ayala, Victor Mariscal, Anthony Grant Esparza, Jesus Lopez, Noe Alonzo, Stephen Soriano, Romel Beck, Omar Lopez, Hector Hernandez, Arim Solares, Gustavo Ayon, Lorenzo Mata, Ramses Benitez, Victor Ávila, Horacio Llamas and Adam Parada.

In the last FIBA Americas Championship (World Qualifier), Mexico finished tenth in the standings and in the 2007 FIBA Americas Championship (Olympic Qualifier) they ended seventh. The Mexican teams wants to qualify for their first FIBA World Championship since 1974.



http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread_us.asp?r=TIOEANCJKU

PRSURF
06-25-2009, 07:53 AM
Puerto Rico call his preselection:

PG

Carlos Arroyo 6-2/1.88
Jose Barea 5-10/1.78
Ali Berdiel 6-6/1.98
Filiberto Rivera 6-0/1.83
Christian Dalmau 6-2/1.88
Andres Rodriguez 5-10/1.78
Carlos Rivera 6-0/1.83
Kevin Hamilton 6-4/1.93

SG

Mike Rosario 6-2/1.88
Larry Ayuso 6-2/1.88
Javier Mojica 6-1/1.85
Guillermo Diaz 6-2/1.88
Rick Apodaca 6-3/1.90
David Cortez 6-3/1.90
Bimbo Carmona 6-5/1.96
James Life 6-3/1.90
David Huertas 6-5/1.96

SF

Ricky Sanchez 6-11/2.10
Carmelo Lee 6-7/2.00
Danny Vasallo 6-6/1.98
Alex Galindo 6-7/2.00
Piwi Garcia 6-11/2.10
Jesse Pellot 6-5/1.96
Buster Figueroa 6-4/1.93
Sammy Villegas
Pirulo Colón
Joel Jones 6-6/1.98

PF

Natahn Peavy 6-8/2.03
Angelo Reyes 6-8/2.03
Angel Alamo 6-10/2.08
Alfonso Dyer 6-11/2.10
Manuel de Jesus 6-7/2.00
Ivan Lopez 6-8/2.03
Ramón Clemente 6-6/1.98
Luis Colón 6-10/2.08
Victor Davila 6-8/2.03

Centers

Daniel Santiago 7-1/2.16
Peter John Ramos 7-3/2.21
Manuel Narvaez 6-10/2.08
Luis Villafañe 6-11/2.10

;)

J-Mart
06-25-2009, 08:15 AM
Puerto Rico call his preselection:

PG

Carlos Arroyo 6-2/1.88
Jose Barea 5-10/1.78
Ali Berdiel 6-6/1.98
Filiberto Rivera 6-0/1.83
Christian Dalmau 6-2/1.88
Andres Rodriguez 5-10/1.78
Carlos Rivera 6-0/1.83
Kevin Hamilton 6-4/1.93

SG

Mike Rosario 6-2/1.88
Larry Ayuso 6-2/1.88
Javier Mojica 6-1/1.85
Guillermo Diaz 6-2/1.88
Rick Apodaca 6-3/1.90
David Cortez 6-3/1.90
Bimbo Carmona 6-5/1.96
James Life 6-3/1.90
David Huertas 6-5/1.96

SF

Ricky Sanchez 6-11/2.10
Carmelo Lee 6-7/2.00
Danny Vasallo 6-6/1.98
Alex Galindo 6-7/2.00
Piwi Garcia 6-11/2.10
Jesse Pellot 6-5/1.96
Buster Figueroa 6-4/1.93
Sammy Villegas
Pirulo Colón
Joel Jones 6-6/1.98

PF

Natahn Peavy 6-8/2.03
Angelo Reyes 6-8/2.03
Angel Alamo 6-10/2.08
Alfonso Dyer 6-11/2.10
Manuel de Jesus 6-7/2.00
Ivan Lopez 6-8/2.03
Ramón Clemente 6-6/1.98
Luis Colón 6-10/2.08
Victor Davila 6-8/2.03

Centers

Daniel Santiago 7-1/2.16
Peter John Ramos 7-3/2.21
Manuel Narvaez 6-10/2.08
Luis Villafañe 6-11/2.10

;)

A 40 players preselection? :o


some of those measures are wrong and some players ae out of position.
where u got this list my man? :D

PRSURF
06-25-2009, 10:19 PM
A 40 players preselection? :o


some of those measures are wrong and some players ae out of position.
where u got this list my man? :DIn a radio station, I think was Agustin Diaz...

why you complain all about I post?:rolleyes:

J-Mart
06-27-2009, 02:45 AM
In a radio station, I think was Agustin Diaz...

why you complain all about I post?:rolleyes:

It's a hobby! dont take it personal!! :D

PRSURF
06-27-2009, 06:13 AM
It's a hobby! dont take it personal!! :Dhaha no problem:D

MarcNehme
06-28-2009, 06:41 AM
hey guys... hope everything is good....

plz can anyone give me information about " Matt Freigi " the lebanese guy who was playing lately in the porto rico league...

just only because he will join our Nt in the asian cup... so i wanna know somethong about him...( if he was a leader ,skills , percentige field goals , 3 pts........)

thank you guys....

Best
Marc

Lewis
06-28-2009, 06:56 AM
hey guys... hope everything is good....

plz can anyone give me information about " Matt Freigi " the lebanese guy who was playing lately in the porto rico league...

just only because he will join our Nt in the asian cup... so i wanna know somethong about him...( if he was a leader ,skills , percentige field goals , 3 pts........)

thank you guys....

Best
Marc

don't take it personal BUT
this is not the place to ask those those things. PLZ go here:http://forums.interbasket.net/f13/bsn-thread-34/

Thanx

Lewis
06-28-2009, 10:41 PM
IBA Americas - Ticket packages available for Marchand Continental Cup and FIBA Americas Championship:

6/26/2009




SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - Ticket packages for the Marchand Continental Cup and 2009 FIBA Americas Championship are available on ticketpop.com.

The Marchand Continental Cup will be held from August 18-20 at Coliseo de Puerto Rico Jose Miguel Agrelot with the participation of Argentina, Brazil, Canada and Puerto Rico. The ticket gives you the right to see both games played each day.

At the same time the packages for the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship are available. This tournament will be played at Coliseo Roberto Clemente of San Juan, Puerto Rico from August 26 to September 6.

The package gives you tickets for the eleven days of the tournament, including the semifinals and final.

A total of ten of the best national teams national teams in America will play. The participating countries are: Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Cuba, Dominican Republic, México, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, U.S. Virgin Islands and Venezuela.

The top four teams will qualify for the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

akitto
06-30-2009, 01:13 PM
How many brazilian and argentinean are currently playing in the nba??

Lewis
06-30-2009, 07:19 PM
How many brazilian and argentinean are currently playing in the nba??

I'm gonna tell you the same thing I told your countryman:



don't take it personal BUT
this is not the place to ask those those things. PLZ go to the respective country's thread: http://forums.interbasket.net/f19/nba-brazilians-2008-09-8443/ For brasil and http://forums.interbasket.net/f30/argentines-in-the-nba-2008-09-8431/ for Argentina

Thanx

Lewis
07-11-2009, 10:26 PM
The Dominican Federation of Basketball (Fedombal) included among the players invited to the national team practices, Power forwards Marlon Martinez and Alexis Montas.

The Puerto Platan Martinez and Romanense Montas were selected by the Federation from the group that initiated the training of the national preselection for the choice of the Dominican team that will go to Fiba Americas Championship to be held from August 26 to September 6, in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

The coordinator of the national team increased, Rafael Uribe, treasurer of Fedombal, reported that the practice will begin Monday July 13th, at 9:30 in the morning at the Palacio de los Deportes Virgilio Travieso.

The list is lead by the top NBA players Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks, in the position of center and power forward Charlie Villanueva, the Detroit Pistons.

Likewise, the swingman are lead by Francisco Garcia, Sacramento Kings, and the small forward Trevor Ariza, a member of the champion team in the 2009 NBA Los Angeles Lakers, who reached a labor agreement recently with the Houston Rockets.

Completing the list are: playemakers Carlos Morban (NCAA & Europe), Edgar Sosa (NCAA), Juan Coronado, Richard Ortega, Joel Ramirez and Alvin Abreu (NCAA).

As shooting guards are two former NBA: Sammy Mejia and Luis Flores, also Kelvin Pena (NCAA & Spain-LEB Silver), Jeff Greer(NCAA & FRANCE D1), Jose Olivero(NCAA & Europe), Sean O'Girri(NCAA) and Manny Quezada (NCAA)

Small forwards Western Franklin (NCAA & PUERTO RICO), Ricky Greer (NCAA & FRANCE D1) and Santos Martinez (Europe). Also the front power Jack Michael Martinez (Europe,PUERTO RICO & Venezuela), EULIS Baez(NCAA & Spain-LEB Oro), Joshua Asselin (NCAA & ACB) and Ivan Almonte (NCAA & Europe).

And Centers, Alejandro Salas (Venezuela), John Garcia (NCAA) and Manuel Guzman (NCAA D2, NAIA & Spain-LEB Silver).

Uribe said that most players who reside abroad are beginning to arrive in the country starting this Sunday.









.....

J-Mart
07-16-2009, 05:25 PM
Tickets for the tournament are now available for each day :D
I already bought mines :D
I'll attend the first day :D

Lewis
07-17-2009, 10:18 PM
Panamanian 24 men Pre-Selection announced and David Rosario is the new coach of Team Panama - Jul 6, 2009 (by Gianni Pascucci)

Panamanian Basketball Federation (FEPABA) announced the hiring of PuertoRican David Rosario as the new Head Coach of Team Panama for the so named 'Olympic Cycle', including the upcoming COCABA Championship of August 5-9, 2009, the CENTROBASKET 2010 and the Championship of the Americas of 2011
The Panamanian Basketball Federation (FEPABA) released the 24-men list called at the National Team Camp to prepare the CentroAmerican Championship, scheduled for August 5-10 in Cancun, Mexico. The players will start practicing at the Arena Roberto Duran from July 15. In case of not availability of that court, the practice sessions will be held at the Gimnasio de la Escuela Profesional. Among the players convocated there are 2006 WC veterans Jair Peralta (178-G-76, college: Tennessee-Martin), Maximiliano Gomez (196-G/F-75), Camargo Dionisio Gomez (203-F-80, college: Arkansas), Jaime Lloreda (201-F-80, agency: HM Sports Agency, college: LSU), Michael Hicks (193-G-76, college: Texas A&M - C.C.), Antonio Garcia (203-F/C-76, college: Ky Wesleyan) and Jamaal Levy (206-C/F-83, agency: Priority Sports, college: Wake Forest). Two other big names are the ones of Danilo Pinnock (196-G-83, agency: SportsTalent, college: George Washington) (currenly playing in Capitanes de Arecibo, Puerto Rico) and Gary Forbes (201-G/F-85, college: Virginia) (who is playing in Trotamundos de Carabobo, Venezuela). Josimar Ayarza (204-F-87), Abdul Herrera (208-C-85, college: Cincinnati) and Gyno Pomare (203-F-86), instead, are the new names, they are all playing in NCAA and are the future of Panamanian basketball, together with the King brothers, Daniel King (199-F-87) and Jonathan King (193-G-90), who are they too playing in USA......

Lewis
07-17-2009, 10:40 PM
The NBA Charlie Villanueva,the Detroit Pistons' 6'11" Dominican Foward, will arrive in The Dominican Rep. on Wednesday and immediately integrated into the practices of the Dominican Team, scheduled to play in Americas Senior Championship to be held in early August in Puerto Rico.

The revelation was made by Caesar Saint Hilaire, general coordinator of the group, who noted the enthusiasm and commitment of the players currently training with the local preset.
.
Villanueva said that not only will he play with the Team in the preparation games against Puerto Rico, but also Atlanta hawks Starting-Center, Alfred Horford.....

perucho123
07-30-2009, 01:08 PM
i like the teams in this tourney. i heard espn bought the rights in the u.s and will broadcast the 1st and second round on espn360 broadband. the semis and final on espn or espn2. its a shame because espndeportes should make an effort and do the 1st and second round there is no major soccer tournament at that time. here is my predictions:
1st- Brazil
2nd-Puerto Rico
3rd- Argentina
4th- is going to be a dogfight between najera,watson's Mejico v. hortfort,villanueva,garcia Dominicana

Jokinen
07-31-2009, 09:51 PM
Argentina played its first preparation game, against a young Australia NT. Argentina won 98 - 78 they look real good but maybe this Australian Nt was just too weak, Paolo Quinteros led the way with 26 pts while JP. Figueroa had a great debut in the senior NT with 7 pts 8 ast and 3 stls.

Argentina (98): Cantero 3, Quinteros 26, Kammerichs 6, Scola 9, González 10 (FI), Weigand 6, Figueroa 7, J. Gutiérrez 9, L. Gutiérrez 6, García 12, Vay 5 y Pelussi 0. Entrenador: Sergio Hernández.

Australia (78): Gibson 11, Ingles 22, Barlow 5, Baynes 4, Jawai 14 (FI), Dellavedova 9, Crawford 3, Nevill 7, Weigh 0 y Forman 3. Entrenador: Brett Brown.

saalsapr
08-01-2009, 12:50 PM
i like the teams in this tourney. i heard espn bought the rights in the u.s and will broadcast the 1st and second round on espn360 broadband. the semis and final on espn or espn2. its a shame because espndeportes should make an effort and do the 1st and second round there is no major soccer tournament at that time. here is my predictions:
1st- Brazil
2nd-Puerto Rico
3rd- Argentina
4th- is going to be a dogfight between najera,watson's Mejico v. hortfort,villanueva,garcia Dominicana

Man perucho, you must be on drugs.

Heres a more credible list

1st- Panama
2nd- Virgin Islands
3rd- Uruguay
4rd- Canada

alermac
08-03-2009, 12:49 AM
Super 4 tournament in Rosario, Argentina:

ARGENTINA 82-URUGUAY 70

Argentina (82): Juan P. Figueroa 8, Paolo Quinteros 18, Federico Kammerichs 2, Luis Scola 17, Román González 9 (STARTERS); Sebastián Vega 4, Juan Pablo Cantero 11, Hugo Sconochini 3, Leonardo Mainoldi 4, Fabricio Vay 2, Matías Sandes 2, Andrés Pelussi 2, Federico Aguerre 0.

Uruguay (70): Martín Osimani 6, Gustavo Barrera 12, Emilio Taboada 0, Gastón Páez 0, Esteban Batista 29 (STARTERS); Reque Newsome 2, Juan Pablo Silveira 8, Nicolás Borsellino 3, Sebastián Izaguirre 1, Diego Castrillón 0, Mauricio Aguiar 9.

Quarters: 27-20, 42-30, 56-51.


The match also served as a retirement ceremony for Hugo Sconochini, who is retiring from pro basketball at age 38. He played five minues, hit a three, grabbed a rebound and stole a ball. Pretty good.


Earlier:

BRASIL 74-AUSTRALIA 71

Brasil (74): Fúlvio Assis 7, Fernando Penna 2, Eduardo Oliveira 0, Jonathan Tavernari 17, Guilherme Teichman 5, Rafael de Sousa 0, Bruno Fiorotto 22, Luiz Ribeiro 8, Daniel Zimer 8, Betinho 5.

Australia (71): Matthew Dellavedova 0, Adam Gibson 10, Joseph Ingles 8, Matt Burston 6, Peter Crawford 5, David Barlow 13, Aaron Baynes 10, Luke Nevill 7, Nathan Jawai 12.

Quarters: 15-14, 34-36, 52-59.

Of couse, this is not Brazil's true team. The Brazilian Federation decided it wouldn't send its stars to Rosario, allegedly because of the swine flu situation.

akitto
08-09-2009, 06:15 PM
[QUOTE=alermac;302111]Super 4 tournament in Rosario, Argentina:

ARGENTINA 82-URUGUAY 70

Argentina (82): Juan P. Figueroa 8, Paolo Quinteros 18, Federico Kammerichs 2, Luis Scola 17, Román González 9 (STARTERS); Sebastián Vega 4, Juan Pablo Cantero 11, Hugo Sconochini 3, Leonardo Mainoldi 4, Fabricio Vay 2, Matías Sandes 2, Andrés Pelussi 2, Federico Aguerre 0.

where is ginobily???? and nocione

saalsapr
08-10-2009, 02:23 PM
[QUOTE=alermac;302111]Super 4 tournament in Rosario, Argentina:

ARGENTINA 82-URUGUAY 70

Argentina (82): Juan P. Figueroa 8, Paolo Quinteros 18, Federico Kammerichs 2, Luis Scola 17, Román González 9 (STARTERS); Sebastián Vega 4, Juan Pablo Cantero 11, Hugo Sconochini 3, Leonardo Mainoldi 4, Fabricio Vay 2, Matías Sandes 2, Andrés Pelussi 2, Federico Aguerre 0.

where is ginobily???? and nocione

Those guys havent participated in a ToA since 2003, and Ginobili is hurt.

AirBall
08-12-2009, 05:10 PM
Can someone explain me format of this competition?

How many teams will qualify for the next stage?

rikhardur
08-12-2009, 05:31 PM
Can someone explain me format of this competition?

How many teams will qualify for the next stage?
Top 4 teams qualify to the WC.

AirBall
08-12-2009, 05:44 PM
Top 4 teams qualify to the WC.

My question was how many teams will qualify for the 2nd stage on this championship?

Sorry for the confusion and thanks a lot anyway for your answer

Lewis
08-12-2009, 06:09 PM
My question was how many teams will qualify for the 2nd stage on this championship?

Sorry for the confusion and thanks a lot anyway for your answer

Participating National Teams:
Argentina
Brazil
Canada
Dominican Republic
Mexico
Panama
Puerto Rico
Uruguay
Venezuela
U.S. Virgin Islands


Qualification system for participant teams

Zone's Qualification (10 Teams)
Of the 10 participant teams, 8 qualified after playing in the qualification tournaments from their respective Zones celebrated during 2008.
Centrobasket Tournament (Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Panama)
South American Championship (Argentina, Uruguay, Venezuela, Brazil)
Canada automatically qualified as they are one of the two representatives of the North America Zone. The United States does not need to play since they won Gold in the 2008 Olympics and earned a berth in the 2010 FIBA World Championship.


Competition System:

With the participation of ten (10) teams, and under FIBA's current Games Rules, this Championship will be played in three (3) rounds. If there is a tie for the same position during the First and Second Rounds, the respective system established by FIBA for that kind of situations will be also utilize. The teams will be divided in two (2) groups of five (5) teams each.

The best four teams per group enter the quarterfinals where they will play four games against the teams that entered from the other group. The quarterfinals are scheduled from September 1-4. The best four in the standings at the end of the quarterfinals will qualify into the FIBA World Championship and the semifinals. The semifinals are going to be played on September 5 and the finals the next day.

AirBall
08-12-2009, 06:14 PM
Monster thanks!

Lewis
08-15-2009, 03:59 AM
DOM - Dominican Republic ready for warm up series against Puerto Rico:

8/14/2009

PUERTO PLATA (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - Dominican Republic is ready for their warm up series against Puerto Rico on Friday and Saturday in Puerto Plata as both teams prepare for the FIBA Americas Championship. NBA stars Al Horford, Francisco García and Charlie Villanueva will be together and play in those games.

The Dominicans will probably have their best team in history as they will play in the FIBA Americas Championship to be played at Coliseo Roberto Clemente in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Francisco Garcia was the first player who reported to the national team and this week Horford and Villanueva entered. The warm up games are at polideportivo Fabio Rafael Gonzalez on Friday and Saturday.

Franklin Western, Ricardo and Jeff Greer, Kelvin Peña, Luis Flores, Juan Coronado, Carlos Morbán, Joel Ramírez, Santos Sartínez, Marlon Martínez, Jack Michael Martínez, Alejandro Salas and John García.

It is expected that center Josh Asselin reports to the team as soon as he signs overseas. Asselin made his debut in the 2005 FIBA Americas Championship, which was also a FIBA World Championship qualifier.

The Dominican Republic is in Group B along with Argentina, Brazil, Panama and Venezuela

The team is coached by Puerto Rican Julio Toro.

FIBA Americas.....

Lewis
08-15-2009, 11:50 PM
http://www.elnuevodia.com/XStatic/endi/images/espanol/donkeotm.jpg

DOM/PUR - Dominican Republic dominates Puerto Rico in warm up:


PUERTO PLATA (FIBA Americas Championship) - The Dominican Republic dominated Puerto Rico 92-76 in front of 4,000 fans at Polideportivo Fabio Rafael González of Puerto Plata.

Francisco García led with 22 points while Charlie Villanueva followed with 14, Al Horford 12 and Marlon Martínez along with Luis Flores 8 each for the winners.

The gaame was dominated from start to finish by the Dominicans who had a 43-36 halftime lead.

In the loss Jesse Pellot-Rosa had 14 points, David Cortés 13, Ricky Sánchez 11 and Carlos Arroyo 9. The Puerto Ricans received good news as Daniel Santiago and Christian Dalmau accepted the invitation to join the national team next week as they prepare for the FIBA Americas Championship.

Game two will be played tonight at 8:00 pm at Gran Arena del Cibao in Santiago.

FIBA Americas

......

perucho123
08-16-2009, 10:25 AM
what happened to trevor ariza?that guy is bumming around .he was also invited to the u.s tryouts in las vegas and dint show up there either. thats 2 teams he shut down this week. maybe he's got a 3rd national team lined up we dont know about?

perucho123
08-16-2009, 10:47 AM
talk about a guy who misses golden chances in life.
you leave the world champion lakers to end up in a yao less team who is fighting for the 8th spot in the nba playoffs
second- whats not attractive about quiskeya national team. there young players in their prime,very athletic, 3 other nba players to share responsability with, best coach in latin america, julio toro,the tournament is played close to hometown so there will be a lot of dominican fans to support the team.
third- if you play for the ee.uu you are guaranteed a medal
where is waldo? i thought he played great in the nba finals and i like his play but didnt he commit to playing for both teams and ended up playing for neither.

alermac
08-16-2009, 10:10 PM
Argentina just beat Mexico 86-76 in D.F., still without Prigioni. Cantero was the top scorer with 15 pts.

Official Stats (http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/2/00/94/49/82pQ8aHmkLud/)

oscarl06
08-16-2009, 10:56 PM
Argentina just beat Mexico 86-76 in D.F., still without Prigioni. Cantero was the top scorer with 15 pts.

Official Stats (http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/2/00/94/49/82pQ8aHmkLud/)

what was this game for?

saalsapr
08-17-2009, 02:29 AM
what was this game for?

fo being an idiot

Lewis
08-17-2009, 04:32 AM
DOM/PUR - Dominican Republic sweeps Puerto Rico:


SANTIAGO (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - The Dominican Republic defeated Puerto Rico 104-94 to sweep their warm up series 2-0 prior to the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship in a game played at Arena del Cibao.

NBA players Francisco García, Charlie Villanueva and Al Horford combined for 52 points in the win. Garcia had 19 points while Villanueva and Horford netted 17 each.

The first half was for the Dominicans 53-38 as Horford led with 11 points.

Villanueva took charge of the Dominican offense in the third quarter making 12 points to finish the first 30 minutes up 80-63.

In the loss Larry Ayuso netted 19 points while Carlos Arroyo along with Jesse Pellot-Rosa had 18 points each.

The Puerto Rican national team returns today to their island and will continue their practices toward the Marchand Continental Championship Cup to be played on August 18,19 and 20 at Coliseo de Puerto Rico José Miguel Agrelot where they will play Argentina, Brazil and Canada.

Brazil and Canada arrive today while Argentina will make it to Puerto Rico on Monday......

Lewis
08-17-2009, 04:34 AM
what was this game for?

It was a warm up game.

BTW, don't listen to the other moron ;)

oscarl06
08-17-2009, 07:00 AM
It was a warm up game.

BTW, don't listen to the other moron ;)

Cool. I wasnt sure

thanks

Picek
08-17-2009, 11:42 AM
Argentina just beat Mexico 86-76 in D.F., still without Prigioni. Cantero was the top scorer with 15 pts.

Official Stats (http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/2/00/94/49/82pQ8aHmkLud/)I know there are problems with Najera joining the team but wasn't Watson supposed to be there too?
can't see him on the list of players though..

Mindozas
08-18-2009, 08:47 AM
Hi.

Tonight starts Marchand Cup with Puerto-Rico, Argentina, Brasil and Canada participating in it. Just wanted to ask will all the teams be with full rosters or are there any important missings in it? Does teams takes this tournament little bit more seriously or it's just like ordinary friendlies before ToA? Thnx

durden_tyler
08-18-2009, 05:13 PM
Good day.

How would you rank the FIBA Americas teams in this year's edition?

J-Mart
08-18-2009, 05:30 PM
Hi.

Tonight starts Marchand Cup with Puerto-Rico, Argentina, Brasil and Canada participating in it. Just wanted to ask will all the teams be with full rosters or are there any important missings in it? Does teams takes this tournament little bit more seriously or it's just like ordinary friendlies before ToA? Thnx

ordinary friendlies

PJ Ramos and Nathan Peavy are missing for PR.

jamie9248922
08-19-2009, 06:42 AM
Well first day of the Tuto Cup is done...
A couple of observations:
The Puerto Rican team looked rusty and a little sloppy...they were very good in streches horrible in others...typicall of a team that has not practiced toghether very long.
Guillermo Diaz shoul make this team....there is no reason for him to be left out...Christian Dalmau should have never been brought in...he has never proven himself at the international level...
It looks more and morea as if Peavy will not play...his birth certificates are a mess and Puerto Rico mis having a tough time proving he is eligible...
Now Jesse Pellot, who just signed in the Israeli league is having issue getting the insurance necessary to play...
At the end of the day here are the possible roster:

WITH PEAVY
PG
ARROYO
F. RIVERA
C. DALMAU

SG
AYUSO
DIAZ

SF
LEE
VASSALLO

PF
A.REYES
N. PEAVY
R. SANCHEZ

C
PJ RAMOS
D. SANTIAGO

If he does not play you add Pellot (if contract problems are resolved) or Joel Jones

alermac
08-19-2009, 04:26 PM
How would you rank the FIBA Americas teams in this year's edition?
Just considering rosters, i'd say:

1 Brazil
2 Dominican Republic
3 Puerto Rico
4 Argentina
5 Canada
6 Mexico
7 Uruguay
8 Panama
9 Venezuela
10 Virgin Islands

Although i think Uruguay is a better team than Mexico and probably Canada

Lewis
08-19-2009, 08:20 PM
Just considering rosters, i'd say:

1 Brazil
2 The Dominican Republic
3 Puerto Rico
4 Argentina
5 Canada
6 Mexico
7 Uruguay
8 Panama
9 Venezuela
10 The Virgin Islands

Although i think Uruguay is a better team than Mexico and probably Canada

That's pretty much what I think too, just by looking at the rosters. BUT
if Raja Bell plays for The Virgin Islands,then I'd put them above Uruguay.

r0drig0lac
08-20-2009, 12:26 AM
alguen tem link de brasil y puerto rico?

algun link de caribevision ????

J-Mart
08-20-2009, 01:42 AM
wasnt ESPNDeportes supposed to show the tournament?

JGX
08-20-2009, 02:05 AM
They are showing the tournament, but the Puerto Rico-Brazil match is being shown on delay because of the MLS match.

Lewis
08-20-2009, 02:09 AM
They are showing the tournament, but the Puerto Rico-Brazil match is being shown on delay because of the MLS match.

Does anyone cares about The MLS anyway :confused::confused::confused:

those friggin' Californians !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mojado
08-20-2009, 02:09 PM
Uruguay beat Mexico 78-72 in Puebla and may lost Osimani due to an injury.

http://www.quenonino.com.uy/quenonino/tabid/37/idNoticia/5491/Rumbo-al-Premundial/Default.aspx

jamie9248922
08-21-2009, 06:03 AM
Puerto Rico Final Roster:
PG
Arroyo
Filiberto Rivera
Christian Dalmau

SG
Larry Ayuso
Guillermo Diaz

SF
Carmelo Lee
AD Vassallo

PF
Angelo Reyes
Ricky Sanchez
Nathan Peavy (or Luis Villafa~e)

C
Peter John Ramos
Danny Santiago

raft
08-21-2009, 07:35 AM
Is Prigioni gonna play? He was suppose to travel to P. Rico for Tuto Cup.

durden_tyler
08-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Thanks for the replies. i'd assume the Argentineans are ranked 4th because they have much a younger roster? i have to check the Dominican Republic roster i don't know why they are ranked that high. But again, thanks!

PRSURF
08-21-2009, 10:00 PM
Is Prigioni gonna play? He was suppose to travel to P. Rico for Tuto Cup.
Yes, he will play in the tournament.

saalsapr
08-22-2009, 12:40 AM
Thanks for the replies. i'd assume the Argentineans are ranked 4th because they have much a younger roster? i have to check the Dominican Republic roster i don't know why they are ranked that high. But again, thanks!

That was an interesting question. There are a lot of guys I dont normally see with the argentinian team, so I too assumed they brought young players, but me being the guy that I am I had to check it out. And so I did!

Went to FIBA, clicked Fiba Americas, Clicked spanish since thats my first language, clicked Tuto Marchand Cup, clicked teams on the directory, and checked all of the team members ages.

Collectively the teams average age is (from oldest to youngest)

Argentina 27.4 (average age)
Brazil 27 (average age)
Puerto Rico 26.5 (average age)
Canada 25.3 (average age)

So Argentina was actually the oldest in the Marchand Cup and Canada was the youngest.
And these 4 teams are the ones that are figured to finish in the top 5 of Fiba Americas. The one thats left is Dominican Republic and if they were to bring their 2008 centrobasket roster, their average age would be 25 so they would actually be the youngest team.

durden_tyler
08-22-2009, 03:20 PM
That was an interesting question. There are a lot of guys I dont normally see with the argentinian team, so I too assumed they brought young players, but me being the guy that I am I had to check it out. And so I did!

Went to FIBA, clicked Fiba Americas, Clicked spanish since thats my first language, clicked Tuto Marchand Cup, clicked teams on the directory, and checked all of the team members ages.

Collectively the teams average age is (from oldest to youngest)

Argentina 27.4 (average age)
Brazil 27 (average age)
Puerto Rico 26.5 (average age)
Canada 25.3 (average age)

So Argentina was actually the oldest in the Marchand Cup and Canada was the youngest.
And these 4 teams are the ones that are figured to finish in the top 5 of Fiba Americas. The one thats left is Dominican Republic and if they were to bring their 2008 centrobasket roster, their average age would be 25 so they would actually be the youngest team.

Nice! So it must be because their previous big-name stars are not there anymore... Anyway, big thanks!

alermac
08-23-2009, 04:56 AM
Collectively the teams average age is (from oldest to youngest)

Argentina 27.4 (average age)
Brazil 27 (average age)
Puerto Rico 26.5 (average age)
Canada 25.3 (average age)

So Argentina was actually the oldest in the Marchand Cup and Canada was the youngest.
In fact, Argentina is in a tricky situation. Statistically speaking, the absences of Figueroa and Delfino hurt that age average, since they are younger than their replacements (Cantero and García). But that can't hide two facts:

1) the years go by, and the core of any Argentina NT is still made of guys from the 1976/1981 generation. It has been so since 1999, and most of the incoming players through the years also come from there. And it's because they deserve it.

2) the next generations (1982/1989) have mostly failed so far. Some players took too long to evolve into quality players, some don't seem capable of being more than role players, some never fulfilled expectations, some left for Europe too young and never made it past youth teams, some remained in Argentina and never made the leap into LNB stars.

¹²³
08-27-2009, 01:13 PM
Day 1 - Highlights

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They didn't upload the Puerto Rico vs Mexico game yet.

J-Mart
08-27-2009, 02:38 PM
US Virgin Islands 62 - 88 Uruguay (http://fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=1&r=7045)
Kevin Sheppard (USVI) 17 pts, 4 asts
Cuthbert Victor (USVI) 12 pts, 6 rebs, 5-8 FG
Leandro Garcia (URU) 28 pts, 6 rebs, 4 asts, 2 stls
Esteban Batista (URU) 23 pts, 13 rebs, 9-16 FG

Dominican Republic 68 - 81 Brazil (http://fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=2&r=7045)
Francisco Garcia (RD) 17 pts, 5 blks
Luis Flores (RD) 12 pts, 4 rebs, 9 asts, 6 turns, 5-18 FG
Alex Garcia (BRA) 21 pts, 4 rebs, 4 asts, 8-12 FG
Tiago Splitter (BRA) 14 pts, 10 rebs, 3 stls, 5-8 FG

Venezuela 85 - 69 Argentina (http://fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=1&r=7045)
Oscar Torres (VEN) 22 pts, 6 rebs, 2 stls, 7-11 FG
Hector "Pepito" Romero (VEN) 19 pts, 5 rebs, 4 asts, 13-15 FT
Luis Scola (ARG) 25 pts, 7 rebs
Pablo Prigioni (ARG) 10 pts, 4 res, 6 asts, 3 stls

Mexico 66 - 81 Puerto Rico (http://fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=2&r=7045)
Romel Beck (MEX) 26 pts, 7-20 FG
Horacio Llamas (MEX) 10 pts
Daniel Santiago (PUR) 15 pts, 11 rebs, 4 asts, 2 blks, 4-6 FG
Carlos Arroyo (PUR) 15 pts, 4 rebs, 11 asts, 6-11 FG

Waneko
08-27-2009, 05:06 PM
Nice second half by Puerto Rico. Carlos Arroyo wasn't a ballhog and still got his points.

Danny Santiago great game off the bench. I almost like the twin towers strategy, that is until Ramos got into foul trouble.

Let's see of the 'other" Puerto Rican shows up tonight. If history means anything, they will lose to the VI, but I hope not.

J-Mart
08-27-2009, 08:49 PM
Panama 87 - 100 Dominican Republic (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=3&r=7045)
Danilo Pinnock (PAN) 27 pts, 3 stls
Jose Lloreda (PAN) 19 pts, 14 rebs, 6 asts, 2 stls, 6 turns
Francisco Garcia (RD) 24 pts, 6-10 FG
Luis Flores (RD) 21 pts, 5 rebs, 4 asts, 4 stls, 2 blks, 4 turns, 8-15 FG

Canada 95 - 40 Mexico (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=3&r=7045)
Andy Rautins (CAN) 18 pts, 6-9 3PT
Carl English (CAN) 17 pts, 5-7 3PT
Noe Alonzo (MEX) 10 pts
Gustavo Ayon (MEX) 6 pts

Brazil 87 - 67 Venezuela (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=4&r=7045)
Leandro Barbosa (BRA) 15 pts, 7-10 FG
Anderson Varejao (BRA) 14 pts, 11 rebs, 6-9 FG
Richard Lugo (VEN) 12 pts, 6 rebs, 6-10 FG
Rafael "Chamo" Perez (VEN) 12 pts, 5-7 FG

Puerto Rico 85 - 74 US Virgin Islands (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=4&r=7045)
Carlos Arroyo (PUR) 24 pts, 5 asts, 3 stls
Peter John Ramos (PUR) 11 pts, 10 rebs
Kevin Shepard (USVI) 18 pts, 5 asts
Phillip Jones (USVI) 18 pts, 7 rebs, 8-14 FG

Lewis
08-27-2009, 10:27 PM
Brazil vs Venezuela already started
(p.s. someone makes a thread)

Lewis
08-28-2009, 03:09 AM
Man, either Puerto Rico is not the team we all thought they were or they're opponents have been playing great.

First Mexico and then "The Virgin freaking Islands" :eek:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope they prove me wrong but, I don't see this Puerto Rican team in the Final game.

they may have 2 wins and 0 loses by now, but we all now those were supposed to be easy wins, but they weren't at all.

Dtown
08-28-2009, 03:14 AM
They also have the advantage of playing in the weaker group, though I'll be interested to see if they perform any better against Uruguay and Canada.

khaledlebanon
08-28-2009, 09:40 AM
My Predictions for Fiba America:

GroupA

1-Canada
2-Puerto Rico
3-Uruguay
4-Mexico

Group B

1-Brazil
2-Domonic Republic
3-Venzuela
4-Argentina

Quarter Finals

Canada vs Argentina--->Canada
Puerto Rico vs Venzuela--->????maybe it's better for Lebanon if venzuela qualified cuz puerto rico took a wildcard for WC 2006... i don't think fiba will give a country two wild cards in a row cuz it will be unfair!!!!!!!!!
Brazil vs Mexico---> Brazil
Domonic republic vs Uruguay--->Domonic Republic

Therefore, Canada-Brazil-Domonic Republicand Venzuela/Puerto rico qualify to WC in Turkey, and Argentina take a Wild Card....so we will hope that europe take just two wild cards cuz they already have 7 cards for WC( so 9 cards will be enough for europe ) and Lebanon take the last one ... nshalla... GOOO LEBANON:D:D:D

rtk04
08-28-2009, 11:24 AM
khaledlebanon...the system is not knock-0ut....the secnd round is one group containing first four from each group...then the 1st four in that group goes into the semi final...

PRSURF
08-28-2009, 06:51 PM
My Predictions for Fiba America:

GroupA

1-Canada
2-Puerto Rico
3-Uruguay
4-Mexico

Group B

1-Brazil
2-Domonic Republic
3-Venzuela
4-Argentina

Quarter Finals

Canada vs Argentina--->Canada
Puerto Rico vs Venzuela--->????maybe it's better for Lebanon if venzuela qualified cuz puerto rico took a wildcard for WC 2006... i don't think fiba will give a country two wild cards in a row cuz it will be unfair!!!!!!!!!
Brazil vs Mexico---> Brazil
Domonic republic vs Uruguay--->Domonic Republic

Therefore, Canada-Brazil-Domonic Republicand Venzuela/Puerto rico qualify to WC in Turkey, and Argentina take a Wild Card....so we will hope that europe take just two wild cards cuz they already have 7 cards for WC( so 9 cards will be enough for europe ) and Lebanon take the last one ... nshalla... GOOO LEBANON:D:D:DIs imposible that three teams of the same qualified to the WC and the system isnt a knock out round.

J-Mart
08-29-2009, 08:38 AM
Argentina 67 - 76 Brazil (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=5&r=7045)
Brazil advances to the next round.
Luis Scola (ARG) 19 pts, 9-16 FG
Guillermo Kammerich (ARG) 6 pts, 10 rebs
Leandro Barbosa (BRA) 21 pts, 9-16 FG
Anderson Varejao (BRA) 19 pts, 9 rebs, 3 stls

US Virgin Islands 67 - 87 Canada (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=6&r=7045)
Walter Hodge (USVI) 18 pts, 5 asts, 3 stls
Kitwana Rhymer (USVI) 8 pts, 11 rebs, 2 blk
Jesse Young (CAN) 14 pts, 7 rebs, 2 blk, 4-7 FG
Andy Rautins (CAN) 11 pts, 5 asts, 3 stls

Venezuela 71 - 80 Panama (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=6&r=7045)
Richard Lugo (VEN) 15 pts, 14 rebs, 8 turns, 2 blk
Hector "Pepito" Romero (VEN) 17 pts, 10 rebs
Jose Lloreda (PAN) 19 pts, 8 rebs, 5 asts, 8-15 FG
Danilo Pinnock (PAN) 17 pts, 5 rebs, 4 asts, 2 stls

Uruguay 51 - 71 Puerto Rico (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=5&r=7045)
Puerto Rico advances to the next round.
Esteban Batista (URU) 19 pts, 8 rebs
Mauricio Aguiar (URU) 8 pts, 5 rebs
Carlos Arroyo (PUR) 18 pts, 5 rebs, 6 asts, 7-9 FG
Peter John Ramos (PUR) 15 pts, 12 rebs, 4 blks, 7-13 FG

J-Mart
08-29-2009, 10:59 PM
Mexico 80 - 63 US Virgin Islands (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=7&r=7045)
US Virgin Islands eliminated from the tournament. Mexico advances to the next round.
Omar Quintero (MEX) 17 pts, 5 rebs, 7 asts, 3 stls
Gustavo Ayon (MEX) 16 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 3 stls, 6 blks
Kevin Sheppard (USVI) 18 pts, 5 asts, 6-9 FG
Walter Hodge (USVI) 12 pts, 4 rebs, 4 asts, 3 stls

Canada 69 - 71 Uruguay (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=8&r=7045)
Canada advances to the next round. Uruguay advances to the next round.
Jesse Young (CAN) 20 pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks, 7-11 FG
Joel Anthony (CAN) 13 pts, 6 rebs, 2 blks, 6-7 FG
Esteban Batista (URU) 18 pts, 12 rebs, 2 stls, 8-13 FG
Martin Osimani (URU) 14 pts, 9 asts, 2 stls

Dominican Republic 78 - 73 Venezuela (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=7&r=7045)
Dominican Republic advances to the next round.
Charlie Villanueva (RD) 28 pts, 12 rebs
Al Horford (RD) 14 pts, 12 rebs
Hector "Pepito" Romero (VEN) 25 pts, 9 rebs, 10-18 FG
Richard Lugo (VEN) 16 pts, 9 rebs, 2 blk, 7-12 FG

Panama 55 - 80 Argentina (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=8&r=7045)
Jamar Warren (PAN) 18 pts, 9 rebs, 4 stls
Danilo Pinnock (PAN) 11 pts, 7 rebs, 5 asts
Luis Scola (ARG) 20 pts, 6 rebs, 7-12 FG
Pablo Prigioni (ARG) 19 pts, 8 rebs, 8 asts, 4 stls

J-Mart
08-30-2009, 11:39 PM
Uruguay 54 - 49 Mexico (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=9&r=7045)
Mauricio Aguiar (URU) 15 pts, 2 stls
Esteban Batista (URU) 13 pts, 18 rebs, 3 stls, 3 blks
Gustavo Ayon (MEX) 12 pts, 11 rebs, 3 stls, 3 blks, 6-12 FG
Horacio Llamas (MEX) 10 pts, 6 rebs

Brazil 84 - 64 Panama (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=9&r=7045)
Leandro Barbosa (BRA) 17 pts, 5-9 FG
Marcelo Huertas (BRA) 15 pts, 5 rebs, 5 asts, 3 stls
Danilo Pinnock (PAN) 24 pts, 8 rebs, 2 stls
Leonardo Pomare (PAN) 14 pts, 10 rebs, 7-12 FG

Argentina 89 - 87 Dominican Republic (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=B&n=10&r=7045)
Luis Scola (ARG) 30 pts, 8 rebs, 5 asts
Paolo Quintero (ARG) 14 pts
Al Horford (RD) 24 pts, 11 rebs, 6 asts, 9-17 FG
Jack Michael Martinez (RD) 13 pts, 11 rebs

Puerto Rico 90 - 70 Canada (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=A&n=10&r=7045)
Carlos Arroyo (PUR) 16 pts, 4-7 FG
Larry Ayuso (PUR) 16 pts, 2 stls
Andy Rautins (CAN) 18 pts
Joel Anthony (CAN) 13 pts, 10 rebs, 2 blks

Dtown
08-31-2009, 03:06 AM
Going into the second round standings look like this

Brazil 3-0
Puerto Rico 3-0
Argentina 2-1
Uruguay 2-1
Dominican Republic 1-2
Canada 1-2
Panama 0-3
Mexico 0-3

Suddenly Argentina's chances of automatically qualifying are pretty damn good. If I had to guess I'd say Brazil, Puerto Rico, Argentina and the Dominican Republic get in to the WC.

alermac
08-31-2009, 03:09 AM
If I had to guess I'd say Brazil, Puerto Rico, Argentina and the Dominican Republic get in to the WC.
I think the four spots will be among these four and Uruguay. The rest seems to be one step behind them.

Lewis
08-31-2009, 03:21 AM
Going into the second round standings look like this

Suddenly Argentina's chances of automatically are pretty damn good. If I had to guess I'd say Brazil, Puerto Rico, Argentina and the Dominican Republic get in to the WC.


I wouldn't count The PR in just yet, they still have to prove themselves against "REAL TEAMS"

Dtown
08-31-2009, 03:23 AM
I wouldn't count The PR in just yet, they still have to prove themselves against "REAL TEAMS"

Well they only have to be better than Pananma :p

Lewis
08-31-2009, 03:25 AM
Well they only have to be better than Pananma :p

oh !!!!! really :D

well, in that case they are in. LOL how unfair :D:D:D

JGX
08-31-2009, 04:03 AM
The big games start right away on Tuesday...Uruguay-Dominican Republic and Canada-Argentina...practically elimination games for the DR and Canada, and Uruguay and Argentina are almost qualified with wins.

alermac
08-31-2009, 12:04 PM
The big games start right away on Tuesday...Uruguay-Dominican Republic and Canada-Argentina...practically elimination games for the DR and Canada, and Uruguay and Argentina are almost qualified with wins.
But the Uruguay-DR game is also a big game for Uruguay, a loss to the Dominicans would leave them in a very bad position.



PS: the fun thing is, Argentina 2-1 record at the start of Round 2 is the best anyone could have expected before the tournament.

panamared
08-31-2009, 07:29 PM
Well they only have to be better than Pananma :p

well you can say that and is true, panama dont have the same team from the last fiba america for a world cup were we finish unbeaten in the second round, beaten teams like puerto rico, argentina etc.. this time is different because we missing a lot of players. :rolleyes:

J-Mart
09-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Uruguay 74 - 80 Dominican Republic (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=X&n=2&r=7164)
(Uruguay 2-2) (Dominican Republic 2-2)
Leandro Garcia (URU) 28 pts, 4 stls, 7 3PTS
Esteban Batista (URU) 16 pts, 8 rebs, 2 stls, 7-11 FG
Charlie Villanueva (RD) 19 pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks
Al Horford (RD) 17 pts, 12 rebs, 3 stls, 2 blks

Canada 51 - 67 Argentina (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=X&n=3&r=7164)
(Canada 1-3) (Argentina 3-1)
Carl English (CAN) 17 pts, 6 rebs
Jesse Young (CAN) 13 pts
Leo Gutierrez (ARG) 15 pts, 5 3PTS
Luis Scola (ARG) 12 pts, 9 rebs

Mexico 61 - 92 Brazil (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=X&n=4&r=7164)
(Mexico 0-4) (Brazil 4-0)
Omar Quintero (MEX) 13 pts
Adam Parada (MEX) 8 pts, 12 rebs
Leandro Barbosa (BRA) 18 pts, 8-11 FG
Anderson Varejao (BRA) 10 pts, 12 rebs, 3 stls, 2 blks

Puerto Rico 79 - 51 Panama (http://www.fibaamericas.com/fnabox.asp?g=X&n=1&r=7164)
(Puerto Rico 4-0) (Panama 0-4)
Peter John Ramos (PUR) 12 pts, 11 rebs, 4 blks
Guillermo Diaz (PUR) 12 pts, 7 rebs, 5-9 FG
Danilo Pinnock (PAN) 23 pts, 4 stls, 9-18 FG
Jose Lloreda (PAN) 8 pt, 7 rebs, 4-17 FG

J-Mart
09-02-2009, 08:05 AM
Standings
PUR 4-0
BRA 4-0
ARG 3-1
RD 2-2
URU 2-2
CAN 1-3
PAN 0-4
MEX 0-4

J-Mart
09-02-2009, 05:28 PM
Puerto Rico is a couple hours away from a Tropical Storm watch.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT06/refresh/AL0609W_NL+gif/144712W_NL_sm.gif

alermac
09-02-2009, 08:39 PM
At least it will happen during the morning, when there are no games:p

Waneko
09-03-2009, 01:41 PM
I have to say I'm impressed with Puerto Rico. Not just because we beat DR last night, but the way we did it. When PR was down by 5 I kept thinking it might be the time for Arroyo to take it in his own hands, but he didn't force it. He got his shots but when they were available.

The scoring was balanced all around and I guess Carlos now has enough confidence in his teammates to not be a ball hog. DR's defense was frustrating PR in the first half, to the extent guys started standing around. But DR couldn't keep the defense intensity at that level without going into cardiac arrest and it hurt them because PR's guys started to find open 3 pointers and they hit them.

I didn't think it was a good idea to play Santiago and Ramos together against these guys. It was effective against less talented teams but against DR it didn't make sense because Santiago would have to guard Villanueva and he can't. Zone defense doesn't work either because Santiago is too slow to cover in space. I'm glad Manolo only tried it for a few minutes and then he abandoned it.

Al Horford is a monster.

Manolo was smart to insert Guillermo Diaz when he did. He had the energy and athleticism to chase Francisco Garcia around and to inject some movement into their offense. He did take a bad shot or 2 but he came to his senses and found an open man when the defense collapsed around him.

In general, PJ Ramos has improved. I don't know if it's enough to make the Rockets or another NBA team this year, but he's not as tentative as he used to be. He challenges shots a lot more, though he is still not a good shot blocker. He is more patient defensively and he's not committing as many dumb fouls. He is still young and can get even better.

akitto
09-04-2009, 09:20 AM
in the 2005 championship which team got a wild card????

alermac
09-04-2009, 12:39 PM
in the 2005 championship which team got a wild card????
Puerto Rico.

akitto
09-04-2009, 01:31 PM
this year canada or DR will get a wild card... DR have a lower chance if the loose to canada... but canada will be in the WC even if they loose

J-Mart
10-03-2009, 09:16 AM
According to Nigagglioni, the tournament left earning of $500,00 to $600,000...


Bring CentroBasket home :D

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