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rikhardur
06-05-2008, 01:32 PM
Andrea Bargnani may play for Italy in their EuroBasket 2009 qualifying games after all.

National team boss Carlo Recalcati, who will lead the Azzurri against Serbia, Bulgaria, Hungary and Finland in Division A games later this year, was preparing to move forward without the Toronto star because of his heavy training commitments with the Raptors.

But Italian Basketball Federation president Fausto Maifredi has received positive information on the 22-year-old's availability.

"In the case of Bargnani, there is something new," Maifredi said.

"Toronto have communicated to us that the player is available for the national team and consequently, he will evaluate the summer workout programs."

The 2.11m Bargnani made his senior team debut last summer at the EuroBasket in Madrid and helped the Azzurri reach the quarter-final qualifying round by averaging 12.7 points and five rebounds per contest.

Italy are uncertain if Marco Belinelli, a rookie this season with the Golden State Warriors and also a member of last year's team, will be able to play.

Belinelli was also important to Italy last year, pouring in 15.5 points per game.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_WmQi1xWSJOovRJ3AESj9c2.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

Good news no doubt for Italy and also considering the known cases with Garbajosa, Ilgauskas and others. Wishful thinking, but perhaps this could mark a turning point...

rikhardur
06-06-2008, 10:41 AM
Italy coach Carlo Recalcati has given a ringing endorsement to 2004 Olympian Luca Garri following his performances for an experimental Azzurri side the past two weeks.

Garri was the last cut from last year's squad in Spain but appears to have a great chance of making this summer's team for Italy's EuroBasket 2009 qualifying games against Serbia, Hungary, Bulgaria and Finland.

Speaking after Italy's 98-90 friendly defeat to the Czech Republic in Bassano on Wednesday night following a 22-point performance from Garri, Recalcati said: "We have played seven games in nine days and I have to say I have seen good things from my players.

"I cannot be fully happy in terms of results. I have seen Luca Garri, captain of this national team, regain his confidence and personality on the court and that is a good thing."

Italy will play on Friday against Ukraine in Verona looking to bounce back from their back-to-back setbacks against the Czech Republic.

Ukraine will play France, Belgium and Turkey in EuroBasket 2009 qualifying games.

Recalcati said: "Ukraine is probably a competitive team but right now, our aim is to focus on ourselves."
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_fi8yyjMVIHkY-Vl7adyGX3.container_frontpage.articleMode_on.html

rikhardur
06-09-2008, 07:31 PM
GIBA, the syndicate of Italian basketball players, set a strike to all activities of senior Italian NT starting on 18th July. The reason is simple: the difference between foreign and national players in Lega. Unless the situation changes and an agreement is reached, the NT will go on strike.

rikhardur
06-19-2008, 03:10 PM
Carlo Recalcati has confirmed that Andrea Bargnani will not play this summer for Italy "due to his commitments with the Toronto Raptors".

Bargnani made his first senior-team bow last year at the EuroBasket in Spain but the Azzurri failed to reach the quarter-finals and now have to go through qualifying for EuroBasket 2009 in a very difficult group that includes Serbia, Hungary, Bulgaria and Finland.

Unfortunately for basketball fans in Italy, the Raptors take priority for Bargnani, depriving the country of its biggest basketball star.

"Andrea Bargnani will not be available due to his commitments with Toronto Raptors," Recalcati said in a statement issued by the Italian Basketball Federation.

"Marco Belinelli will be included in the 24-player list. Marco has a programme of two summer leagues with the Golden State Warriors. I have reached an agreement with Golden State that if they were satisfied with his first (summer league) then his position may be reconsidered."

Recalcati is still hopeful that the country's other promising star, Danilo Gallinari, will not have his hopes of joining up with Italy dashed by the forthcoming NBA draft.

Gallinari, who is coming off his second full season with Armani Jeans Milano, is projected to be a first-round pick.

"Danilo Gallinari has given his full availability but we will have to wait and see which franchise chooses him on June 26 in the NBA draft," Recalcati said.

The Italians are even having to clear hurdles at the collegiate level in America with University of South California coach Tim Floyd apparently unwilling to let point guard Daniel Hackett play for the Azzurri.

Recalcati visited USC earlier this year, but has revealed: "The problem with Daniel Hackett is that his coach Tim Floyd doesn't understand our system of qualifying and doesn't allow him to be available. We are working on changing his mind."

And it's not just roadblocks Recalcati is facing in America that is cause for frustration.

In Italy, there is a threat of a players' strike. Players, in a worst-case scenario, could boycott the national team unless tighter restrictions are placed on the number of foreigners allowed to play in Italy's leagues.

"I am aware of the danger of the (players) strike but I will never say who doesn't join the national team for issues other than physical or technical," Recalcati said.

"I just hope that the players and the institutions speak and find a solution so that by July 18, we are able not only to meet but to train."
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_VQSJL,ieGiMQAfPuhLcvY0.container_frontpage.ar ticleMode_on.html

rikhardur
06-21-2008, 04:54 PM
Italian fellows, is it true Stonerook might play for Italy?

special-thanks-2
06-21-2008, 05:10 PM
Italian fellows, is it true Stonerook might play for Italy?
Yes. Recalcati himself said he will consider him, so there are concrete chances to see Stonerook playing for Italian NT.

Toxicity
06-22-2008, 02:33 AM
Stonerook would be wonderful for our team! :cool:

Rocca is a better rebounder and he's a nice player but Shaun is another thing... i want him in the NT!

I think Recalcati should also call Michele Maggioli back in the roster... he's no young at 31 but he's clearly the best center we have right now (Chiacig and Marconato are declining, Crosariol is still too inconsistent).

Considering the friendly games played lately, i'd say Datome is a lock to make the roster for the qualifications. Garri, Cinciarini and Lechthaler may be too...

Hvala Milane
07-09-2008, 10:56 AM
These are the players for Bormio's training camp:

1. Amoroso Valerio (80, 202, A, Premiata Montegranaro)
2. Bulleri Massimo (77, 188, P, Armani Jeans Milano)
3. Cavaliero Daniele (84, 188, P)
4. Cinciarini Daniele (83, 194, G, Lottomatica Roma)
5. Cittadini Alessandro (79, 207, C, Upim Bologna)
6. Datome Luigi (87, 202, A, Montepaschi Siena)
7. Di Giuliomaria Christian (79, 210, A/C, Snaidero Udine)
8. Fantoni Tommaso (85, 203, A, Fastweb Casale Monferrato)
9. Gallinari Danilo (88, 205, G, New York Knicks)
10. Gigli Angelo (83, 209, A, Benetton Treviso)
11. Hackett Daniel (87, 194, G, Usc Trojans)
12. Mancinelli Stefano (83, 203, A, Upim Bologna)
13. Michelori Andrea (78, 204, A)
14. Mordente Marco (79, 193, P, Armani Jeans Milano)
15. Poeta Giuseppe (85, 190, P, Bancatercas Teramo)
16. Soragna Matteo (75, 199, A, Benetton Treviso)
17. Vitali Luca (86, 201, G, Armani Jeans Milano)
18. Zacchetti Joel (82, 208, A, Tisettanta Cantù)
The schedule of Bormio's training camp:
. training camp from July 19 to July in Bormio (Sondrio);
· friendly matches against Israel on July 27 and against Poland on July 29 in Bormio;
· international tournament with Israel, France, Poland and Italy from July 31 to August 2 in Bormio;
· friendly match against France on August 5 in Bormio.

Toxicity
07-10-2008, 08:34 AM
These are the players for Bormio's training camp:

1. Amoroso Valerio (80, 202, A, Premiata Montegranaro)
2. Bulleri Massimo (77, 188, P, Armani Jeans Milano)
3. Cavaliero Daniele (84, 188, P)
4. Cinciarini Daniele (83, 194, G, Lottomatica Roma)
5. Cittadini Alessandro (79, 207, C, Upim Bologna)
6. Datome Luigi (87, 202, A, Montepaschi Siena)
7. Di Giuliomaria Christian (79, 210, A/C, Snaidero Udine)
8. Fantoni Tommaso (85, 203, A, Fastweb Casale Monferrato)
9. Gallinari Danilo (88, 205, G, New York Knicks)
10. Gigli Angelo (83, 209, A, Benetton Treviso)
11. Hackett Daniel (87, 194, G, Usc Trojans)
12. Mancinelli Stefano (83, 203, A, Upim Bologna)
13. Michelori Andrea (78, 204, A)
14. Mordente Marco (79, 193, P, Armani Jeans Milano)
15. Poeta Giuseppe (85, 190, P, Bancatercas Teramo)
16. Soragna Matteo (75, 199, A, Benetton Treviso)
17. Vitali Luca (86, 201, G, Armani Jeans Milano)
18. Zacchetti Joel (82, 208, A, Tisettanta Cantù)
The schedule of Bormio's training camp:
. training camp from July 19 to July in Bormio (Sondrio);
· friendly matches against Israel on July 27 and against Poland on July 29 in Bormio;
· international tournament with Israel, France, Poland and Italy from July 31 to August 2 in Bormio;
· friendly match against France on August 5 in Bormio.

Oh my god... :eek:

Well, i don't know what to think... i'm surprised (upset) about the lack of any center (just PFs) in this team... Rocca, Maggioli, Crosariol, Marconato... all left at home, apparently. :confused:

It's hard to imagine this team competing against the much more physical Serbia... especially under the basket where, i fear, we'll be destroyed by the likes of Milicic, Krstic, etc...

Hvala Milane
07-10-2008, 09:36 AM
Oh my god... :eek:

Well, i don't know what to think... i'm surprised (upset) about the lack of any center (just PFs) in this team... Rocca, Maggioli, Crosariol, Marconato... all left at home, apparently. :confused:

It's hard to imagine this team competing against the much more physical Serbia... especially under the basket where, i fear, we'll be destroyed by the likes of Milicic, Krstic, etc...
Totally agree, because against a tough guy like Milicic Crosariol would have helped with his intimidation and ability to contest every shot and we all know that Darko goes mad if he can't find his way but Andrea still can't stay on court for many minutes because of foul trouble and lack of offensive moves. More skilled C like Maggioli and Marconato would have helped scoring some points without only layups, dunks or putbacks like in Crosariol's case but in defense I think also the actual Krstic would kill them easily, so we definitely needed Mason Richard since he can play hard defense (without blocking or contesting shots like the others I mentioned) denying easy position to his opponent and in offence he is a banger but he has some go to moves like sky hook and dropstep which often are successful.

Toxicity
07-11-2008, 10:20 AM
Totally agree, because against a tough guy like Milicic Crosariol would have helped with his intimidation and ability to contest every shot and we all know that Darko goes mad if he can't find his way but Andrea still can't stay on court for many minutes because of foul trouble and lack of offensive moves. More skilled C like Maggioli and Marconato would have helped scoring some points without only layups, dunks or putbacks like in Crosariol's case but in defense I think also the actual Krstic would kill them easily, so we definitely needed Mason Richard since he can play hard defense (without blocking or contesting shots like the others I mentioned) denying easy position to his opponent and in offence he is a banger but he has some go to moves like sky hook and dropstep which often are successful.

I agree but i think Maggioli is the best center in Italy right now, especially on offense. I put him ahead of Marconato who can only score from outside while Michele has solid post moves... Rocca is the best defender on bigs we have (Stonerook is another guy i like but i don't think he'll play for NT anytime soon) but he's recovering from injury and he may be not ready for August.

Crosariol, beyond his usual inconsistency, should be in the NT because he's the only athletic and young 7-0 we have. Recalcati should know that...

I hate Recalcati. :mad:

Hvala Milane
07-11-2008, 01:28 PM
I agree but i think Maggioli is the best center in Italy right now, especially on offense. I put him ahead of Marconato who can only score from outside while Michele has solid post moves... Rocca is the best defender on bigs we have (Stonerook is another guy i like but i don't think he'll play for NT anytime soon) but he's recovering from injury and he may be not ready for August.

Crosariol, beyond his usual inconsistency, should be in the NT because he's the only athletic and young 7-0 we have. Recalcati should know that...

I hate Recalcati. :mad:
I agree that Maggioli is our best offensive center by far but I've seen him playing sometimes this season and looked a bit uneffective in defense compared to the others because he doesn't play much phisically so he allows his opponents to shoot quite uncontested layups even if he's a good shot blocker and he isn't fast enough to defend effectively on pick and roll but this is a more common weakness. You also have to think that he played in the second league but I'd have given a chance to him too considering the lack of centers.

rikhardur
07-11-2008, 05:45 PM
I hate Recalcati. :mad:
Who doesn't I daresay :D I still cannot understand how the Italian federation was able to re-sign him, oh well...

rikhardur
07-15-2008, 10:09 PM
Gallinari - 'I'm playing for Italy'

Danilo Gallinari has firmly declared he will be with Italy this summer for their EuroBasket qualifying games against Serbia, Hungary, Bulgaria and Finland.

The New York Knicks rookie, the sixth overall pick in last summer's NBA draft, is currently in America with the Knicks where he was set to make his debut on Monday with the team in the Las Vegas Summer League.

"Yes, I will go to Italy on the 21st (of July) straight after the Summer League," he said.

"I need to speak to (Italy coach) Charly Recalcati to find out if I will be able to get a couple of days to rest or not.

"In any case I will be with the national team, even though just as my other colleagues I am following the discussions between the FIP, Lega and the GIBA (Italian Players' Basketball Association)."

Italy's national team players are threatening to strike if a quota is not placed on the number of foreigners in the domestic league (Lega A).

The FIP, Lega A and GIBA will meet on Friday to see if an agreement can be reached in the dispute regarding foreign players quota with GIBA having threatened to go on strike.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_13HZ1HA8HPsQHMQcfPvT71.container_frontpage.ar ticleMode_on.html

Toxicity
08-25-2008, 08:50 PM
Italian NT sucks all the way... :o

Recalcati, go home!!! :mad:

Fortitudo
08-26-2008, 09:27 AM
Italian NT 2008

LOL :)

raph
08-30-2008, 04:56 PM
Well, after the loss against bulgaria (the game that had to be won basically) i guess recalcati will surely go home yup.

I might be wrong but it's more or less the last hope italy had (unless a win in serbia...) to qualify for next euro, right ?

On the other hand, serbia lost against finland.

rikhardur
09-04-2008, 07:37 PM
Italy guard Luca Vitali could miss the rest of the Azzurri's EuroBasket 2009 qualifying campaign with a hand injury.

According to a statement issued by the Italian Basketball Federation, the player has broken a bone in his right hand and has left the team to join up with his club side, Varese.

Italy, with just one victory in four EuroBasket Division A games, face a must-win game this weekend when they travel to Serbia (3-1) in Group A.

Only the group winners, and the three best second-place teams from the four qualifying groups will earn automatic places at EuroBasket 2009 in Poland.

The Azzurri also have games remaining against Finland, Hungary and Bulgaria.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_nPcKBFE8JXMIB5Vp8UfFy3.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

Everything going well for Recalcati :rolleyes:

ffalkec
09-09-2008, 01:19 PM
Is Charlie still your coach? Who will be his replacement, if (when) he goes?

Toxicity
09-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Is Charlie still your coach? Who will be his replacement, if (when) he goes?

Unfortunately no Messina or Scariolo... :(

The main candidate is Matteo Boniciolli (last year he won italian cup with Avellino and won the COY Award), i believe.

rikhardur
09-25-2008, 10:03 PM
The president of the federation resigned, how could this affect Recalcati's future?

raph
09-28-2008, 10:09 AM
And what about Messina ? In our local "gazetta dello sport" (l'equipe) both him and majlkovic are interviewed and they pretend to be interested by coaching french NT.
It seems unrealistic for me (especially messina for obvious reasons...) but messina declared that he would rather coach italy (i can imagine he won't say much more till recalcati is fired). which is not what was suggested by italian fans here.

AlbionGate
09-28-2008, 01:06 PM
The president of the federation resigned, how could this affect Recalcati's future?

I hope they will keep "Charlie" as head coach. A lot a players were missing, some due to NBA (Bargnani, Belinelli), other due to injuries (Gallinari, Gigli, Vitali). If you add these players to Crosariol, Da Tome, Hackett and Poeta you obtain a beautiful roster. Although I consider two positions as very weak (center and playmaker).
If anybody knows something about the young center Cucarollo 220 87 (he was in Benetton and played well during Euro U20 in 2007. At the time I thought he would be soon member of Italian NT).

Khalid80
09-28-2008, 08:42 PM
It's sad to see the Italian basketball NT not doing well these days after they played amazing back in the 2004 Olympics in Athens when they won the silver medal.
Recalcati has been coaching the Italian NT for quite a long time now and I think it's time for new coach if there are any better candidates available (I don't remember a coach staying that long with a NT. I think it's been like 7 or 8 years that he's been coaching the NT if i'm not mistaken.)

rikhardur
10-02-2008, 01:10 AM
Meneghin Pleads With NBA Trio To Play For Italy


Italy basketball legend Dino Meneghin has made an emotional appeal to Andrea Bargnani, Marco Belinelli and Danilo Gallinari to play for the Azzurri in next year's Additional Qualifying Round for the EuroBasket.

Injury prevented New York Knicks rookie Gallinari from taking part this summer while NBA commitments with Toronto and Golden State, respectively, for Bargnani and Belinelli stopped each from joining.

Without their three rising stars, Italy managed to win just four of their eight qualifying games in Group A and that was only good enough for a third-place finish behind Serbia and Bulgaria.

Meneghin, who was this week appointed Italian Basketball Federation commissioner in the wake of Fausto Maifredi's unexpected resignation as president, told Legabasket.it: "We´ve had a huge problem this summer with qualification. We missed a lot our three NBA players while we had other injured players.

"My hope, my certainty that I can offer at this time, is that the players across the Atlantic understand the dramatic moment of our national team that really needs to take part in the EuroBasket 2009.

"Their presence is crucial and necessary. In this case I make their appeal to their team spirit and their love of the national team, many times said and read on the newspapers but that now needs to be shown on the court.

"Once called, they must respond to the call-up of the national team, of coach (Carlo) Recalcati, things that have been done by all the great players of the NBA.

"They should be with us so that the national team, which belongs to everyone, can go to the EuroBasket and regain the prestigious place where it belongs."

Italy will take on France, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belgium, Finland and Portugal in the Additional Qualifying Round with just one place for the EuroBasket up for grabs.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_JXXZzBqTGGskpxi39iPt32.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

Toxicity
10-02-2008, 05:41 PM
I hope they will keep "Charlie" as head coach. A lot a players were missing, some due to NBA (Bargnani, Belinelli), other due to injuries (Gallinari, Gigli, Vitali). If you add these players to Crosariol, Da Tome, Hackett and Poeta you obtain a beautiful roster. Although I consider two positions as very weak (center and playmaker).

I don't think the PG position is that weak... Vitali-Poeta-Hackett is a good trio in which every player can bring something different.

The real weak position is the C. Even if Crosariol and Lechthaler (this year the 4rd big man for Montepaschi Siena) can become decent at international level and rumors report Bargnani has gained around 15lbs of muscle this summer so he should play more downlow for us. Gigli himself can play that position for some minutes... we'll see.

For the future the new name is Benetton's Andrea Renzi (1989 born), although probably better suited for the PF position (like many italian prospects lately).


If anybody knows something about the young center Cucarollo 220 87 (he was in Benetton and played well during Euro U20 in 2007. At the time I thought he would be soon member of Italian NT).

Cuccarolo last year played in the 2nd division (Legadue) for Montecatini. Few minutes and very few decent games for him... still immature and underdeveloped physically. I don't think he'll play in the Italian NT anytime soon (if ever)... this year he should be playing in the 3rd division but i'm not sure.

rikhardur
10-06-2008, 08:39 PM
Thumbs-up For Italy Coaches Recalcati, Ticchi


Carlo Recalcati and Giampiero Ticchi are to remain in charge of the men's and women's national teams of Italy, respectively.

The FIP said in a statement that both men had been nominated to continue as coaches by Italy Basketball commissioner Dino Meneghin.

Italy basketball great Meneghin recently took temporary charge of the FIP following the resignation of president Fausto Maifredi and has been a long-time supporter of Recalcati.

He recently told legabasket.it: "He (Recalcati) is a person that I admire, a great man that knows the system from A to Z. For me, he is indispensable and I hope that he will be alongside me in these months."

Recalcati led Italy to bronze at EuroBasket 2003 and silver at the Athens Olympics and has been at the helm of the Azzurri ever since. The team did not meet their aim this summer of reaching next year's EuroBasket in Poland, but it will take part in the Additional Qualifying Round against France, Portugal, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belgium and Finland.

The six teams will battle for one spot that is still available for next year's Final Round.

Ticchi took charge of the Azzurre before this summer's EuroBasket Women 2009 qualifying campaign.

He will guide them in January's Additional Qualifying Round for the EuroBasket Women.

The Italians will battle Ukraine, Bulgaria, Belgium, Croatia and Germany for two places that are still up for grabs for the Final Round that is to be staged in Riga, Latvia.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_8gBLnz9hGY2O-h0J2G6F92.articleMode_on.container_frontpage.html

rikhardur
11-17-2008, 04:48 PM
European Round-Up: Meneghin To Stand For President


Dino Meneghin has moved closer to becoming president of the Italian Basketball Federation (FIP) after receiving the backing of the presidents of the regional committee of the FIP.

The Italy basketball legend has been serving as commissioner of the FIP since September after Fausto Maifredi stepped down as president.

The presidents of the regional committee met in Milan at the weekend and officially asked Meneghin to stand for president when the election is held on February 7 and Meneghin agreed to do so.

"I have accepted to stand for several reasons," Meneghin said in a statement by the FIP.

"I have found a lot of good faith in my project as well as a common wish to achieve it. We have spoken a lot about schools, and youth teams and that is a good first step to work together in time.

"I have met people that work on a day-to-day basis on the court, that give their best for a common goal.

"With the presidents of the regional committee, we agree on an issue that basketball is to be improved, not rescued.

"We must work to improve it, to attract the biggest number of youngsters, to offer them to the clubs and then to the national team. With all due respect to clubs, the national team is the most important club in Italy."
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_LBSE18QtGe-DaFFw6sGx62.articleMode_on.container_frontpage.htm l

Khalid80
01-20-2009, 01:41 PM
"(by Gianni Pascucci)
Yesterday started in Porto San Giorgio the first of the three National Team mini-camps scheduled by coach Carlo Recalcati to test and develop the skills of the best young Italian players. The other two camps will be held on February 16 and on March 23. One of the convocated players, Tommaso Fantoni (203-F-85, agency: Players Group), was unable to join the camp due to a light injury. The other ones are as listed down:
Michele Antonutti (202-G/F-86)
Pietro Aradori (192-G-88)
Daniele Bonessio (197-G/F-88)
Matteo Canavesi (204-F/C-86)
Bruno Cerella (194-G/F-86)
Andrea Cinciarini (191-G-86)
Valerio Circosta (185-G-87)
Gino Cuccarolo (219-C-87)
Marco Cusin (211-C-85, agency: Interperformances)
Lorenzo D'Ercole (190-G-88)
Thomas De Min (203-G-86)
Giancarlo Ferrero (194-G-88, agency: Players Group)
Giuseppe Poeta (190-G-85)
Tommaso Rinaldi (204-F/C-85)
Brian Sacchetti (197-G/F-86)
Gennaro Sorrentino (185-G-85)"

damelo
01-20-2009, 02:20 PM
Wow, and we don't even have started to work on NT.

Khalid80
01-20-2009, 03:21 PM
Wow, and we don't even have started to work on NT.

I believe Italy wants to do something in the next Euro-Championship after their dismal performances for the last few years and the best thing to do is start preparing from now.

special-thanks-2
01-20-2009, 09:59 PM
It would be interesting to see our "real" NT, I mean with the full roster available. I would really love to see a team like this:

POINT GUARDS
Giuseppe Poeta (1985) - Teramo
Luca Vitali (1986) - Milano
Daniel Hackett (1987) - USC (NCAA)

SHOOTING GUARDS
Marco Belinelli (1986) - Golden State Warriors
Marco Mordente (1978) - Milano

SMALL FORWARDS
Danilo Gallinari (1988) - New York Knicks
Matteo Soragna (1975) - Treviso
Luigi Datome (1987) - Roma

POWER FORWARDS
Stefano Mancinelli (1983) - Fortitudo Bologna
Angelo Gigli (1983) - Roma

CENTERS
Andrea Bargnani (1985) - Toronto Raptors
Richard Mason Rocca (1977) - Milano

Khalid80
01-21-2009, 04:47 PM
It would be interesting to see our "real" NT, I mean with the full roster available. I would really love to see a team like this:

POINT GUARDS
Giuseppe Poeta (1985) - Teramo
Luca Vitali (1986) - Milano
Daniel Hackett (1987) - USC (NCAA)

SHOOTING GUARDS
Marco Belinelli (1986) - Golden State Warriors
Marco Mordente (1978) - Milano

SMALL FORWARDS
Danilo Gallinari (1988) - New York Knicks
Matteo Soragna (1975) - Treviso
Luigi Datome (1987) - Roma

POWER FORWARDS
Stefano Mancinelli (1983) - Fortitudo Bologna
Angelo Gigli (1983) - Roma

CENTERS
Andrea Bargnani (1985) - Toronto Raptors
Richard Mason Rocca (1977) - Milano

Yeah there are many players that were not mentioned but this NT that Recalcati has called up is just for selecting the best potential young players (below 22 and excluding the NBA players). I'm sure those names that were posted won't be the final roster of the Italian NT.

special-thanks-2
01-23-2009, 04:57 PM
Yeah there are many players that were not mentioned but this NT that Recalcati has called up is just for selecting the best potential young players (below 22 and excluding the NBA players). I'm sure those names that were posted won't be the final roster of the Italian NT.
Yes, I know. Among them actually the only one who really belongs to the NT is Poeta, who's having a superb season so far. A fast PG, who loves getting into the lane, he can score and draws lots of fouls. As for the others, maybe they'll get a chance sooner or later, but they need to develop. A huge disappointment is Aradori who was expected to have a breakout season in a small team like Biella but he's struggling a lot (2.8 ppg in 11.7 mins).

rikhardur
02-09-2009, 10:53 PM
ITA – Meneghin ready for huge challenge as Italy’s new basketball supremo


ROMA (FIP) - No player stood taller in Italian hoops for nearly three decades than the country’s newly elected basketball federation (FIP) president Dino Meneghin.

A towering 2.06m, Meneghin was the ultimate leader whose mere presence inspired teammates and captured the imagination of Italy as he helped drive the national team to some of its finest moments.

Born in 1950, he made his debut for the Azzurri at 16 and went on to play 271 times for his country with his last appearance as a 44-year-old.

He thrived on challenges as a player, and now he faces a huge one off the court as the FIP supremo.

Meneghin, who had served commissioner of the FIP since September following the resignation of Fausto Maifredi as FIP president, gave this exclusive interview to FIBA.com.

FIBA: Dino, several months ago you said you didn't have the time required to be president of the Italian Basketball Federation. What made you change your mind?

Meneghin: People's insistence that I was the right man for the job. My will is to do something important for Italian basketball. I have always been a man of the court, before a coach or a general manager of clubs in Italy or the national team. I am 59 years old and I believe the time had come to put my experience, my knowledge and willingness to the service of the Italian basketball movement. Despite knowing that it will be a challenge with my other job (he runs an events and public relations company Sicom Eventi) I know that with sacrifice and will, I can do it. I will not be alone in the task of running the federation as I will have counselors that will be placed in the right positions, people who want to work hard and are competent. Once that happens, my job will be made easier.

FIBA: What is the state of Italian basketball right now and can we be optimistic?

Meneghin: I am an optimist by nature, especially when facing adversity. In difficult times you need to work hard and think positive. With regards to the national team, we have good players but we are not able to get the results at international level. Our immediate hope is to qualify for the EuroBasket this summer and from then on, understand our value. With regards to our clubs, we have good teams and players but yet again we are missing important results at international level. The will to get achievements is there from everyone but we know that we face important challenges from Spain, Greece, Russia, while other eastern (European) countries are finding the resources to be competitive at the maximum level. The task of our clubs is not easy when you are competing with strong clubs that have the revenue to sign top players. We have higher taxes from the state placed on our clubs, hence, when a player is given the same offer by two clubs, a player will choose to go to Spain or Russia rather than come to Italy because we pay more taxes. Considering the financial crisis that the world is facing, it makes it harder to find sponsors and that also makes the clubs' job harder. In terms of the youth system we have a lot of work to do. We need to be more involved with schools, find youngsters and talent to bring closer to basketball. It's a huge task that we all must focus on, not only the federation but also all the basketball clubs.

FIBA: You are a living legend in Italy. Does your name make the job easier?

Meneghin: I can put the face, even if it's an ugly one! But the will and the capacity is there. The fact is that we need to get more support from the media. Public television like RAI and Mediaset don't give us much contribution in terms of broadcasting news, games and results. This diminishes our sport, even if it's strong, because in the eyes of some, it seems as it doesn't exist.

FIBA: Italy's national team has struggled since 2004. What has been the reason for this and are you convinced that the national team can have a starring role in the near future?

Meneghin: My hope is that we will. We have great players but we have not gotten results sometimes due to injuries, other times we haven't played well and that has been the merit of our rivals. I am convinced of the strength of our basketball but we must show this on the court. I think we just need a good result to confirm the good work done by everyone. We are well aware that the competitiveness has notably increased, that our teams need to be extremely competitive and arrive to the top tournaments in the best form possible. We have a problem in that our tournament is very long but the fact that it is a hard one means that our players are very active. Sometimes they arrive in the summer rather tired and they are not able to give what they really could. I also believe we have been unlucky at crucial times in not having certain players available through injury and that is crucial.

FIBA: It is strange that powerful teams like France and Italy will have to face each other for the only remaining place in the EuroBasket. How difficult is the Additional Round going to be for Italy?

Meneghin: This is a Russian roulette, in the sense that we cannot afford to make a mistake. To see two historically strong teams, full of good players having to come up against each other for one spot is hard. But this goes to prove the high standard of basketball in Europe. There are no longer any easy games, they are all difficult. Therefore, you need all your players in good shape. For us, the Additional Qualifying Round against France will be extremely challenging and very difficult. I cannot deny that we are rather worried because in a few days you play for everything. It's a challenging calendar with road games, too, and fatigue will come into it. That is why the players will need the right mentality to understand how difficult our task will be and to be fully focused and in top physical form.

FIBA: Will Italy coach Carlo Recalcati remain in charge of the national team even if the Azzurri fail to qualify for the EuroBasket?

Meneghin: Charley Recalcati has a contract until September. After that, I will sit down with him and understand what his intentions are based on the results and whether his wish is to continue to guide the national team. If that is the case, we will renew his contract. Otherwise, we will go for someone else. But until then, he is not under discussion. He has all my trust and support.

FIBA: With the focus placed on the Additional Qualifying Round, you must be following Italy's American-based players closely. What can you tell us about the improvements made by NBA trio Andrea Bargnani, Marco Belinelli and Danilo Gallinari as well as University of Southern California point guard Daniel Hackett?

Meneghin: Marco has shown a lot of character. He proved that he wanted more playing minutes and when given the chance, he has shown what he can do in terms of defense, rebounds. He has grown in personality. As for Andrea, he still has ups and downs and needs to find continuity but in certain games he has proved important for his team. Danilo is still recovering from a back injury but in the games he has played he has shown potential. Our hope is that he improves his physical condition and gets better primarily for New York and then for the national team. As for Daniel Hackett, he is doing very well and he could be useful for us in the Additional Qualifying Round.

FIBA: Will we see Italy's NBA players in action at the Additional Qualifying Round and if successful, at the EuroBasket?

Meneghin: This is a question mark. I hope that the players and the clubs they play for will allow them to come and play with the national team just as they have done in the past. Other players like Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker and Pau Gasol have done this for their respective national teams. While being aware that their future in the NBA is important to them, I believe it's also crucial for them to play in the national team. If they did this, it would set a great example for the other players that play in Italy but especially, for the young players because it would inspire them as they look up to them. Regardless of the NBA or the Lega A, the most important team is the national team. That was the case for me, because it is the team of the whole of Italy. I can play and win with Milano 30 league titles and 20 Euroleagues and then the Milano fans will be happy. But if I win a medal at the Olympics, at a EuroBasket or a World Championship, I would make 50 million Italians happy and that is somewhat different.

FIBA: Dino, I know you followed Italy women's Additional Round with a lot of expectation. How proud are you of Giampiero Ticchi's women who last month qualified for this year’s EuroBasket in Latvia?

Meneghin: I am delighted. They have shown great strength. I have followed the teams on the court and outside it and I have seen that they are a true team. They are a group of friends, who are united. I have been hit by their enthusiasm, their availability for the national team. This has been one of the reasons why this team has qualified for the EuroBasket after many years. The merit has been down to their strength and the work done by coach Giampiero Ticchi and his staff. This is a great result and I hope it can be a great example for the men's national team.

FIBA: Italy are among the countries short-listed to host the 2014 FIBA World Championship for men. What would it mean for Italian basketball and for the nation to host such a prestigious event?

Meneghin: It would be the result of a lot of work and sacrifice. To bring to Italy such an important event after many years would be a reward for those who work in basketball and who love the sport. We hosted the EuroBasket in 1991 and ever since then, we have not hosted anything. Italy needs and wants to see the best basketball in the world played here. We know very well that (the other two candidates) China and Spain are two important realities but we are hopeful.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/inte/p/newsid/29368/arti.html

penzias
02-24-2009, 07:19 AM
It's sad to see the Italian basketball NT not doing well these days after they played amazing back in the 2004 Olympics in Athens when they won the silver medal.
Recalcati has been coaching the Italian NT for quite a long time now and I think it's time for new coach if there are any better candidates available (I don't remember a coach staying that long with a NT. I think it's been like 7 or 8 years that he's been coaching the NT if i'm not mistaken.)
Antonio Diaz Miguel stayed 27 years as spanish NT coach. The funny thing is that he was suposed to be an interim coach when he was hired back in the anciant era.
Hopefully we'll see Bargnani playing this summer. A good performace with the NT might boost his recently gained confidence and help him to show us the greatness that i'm sure lays somewhere inside him.

Mindozas
03-10-2009, 10:43 AM
Seems like Gallinari won't play in additional qualification round for EC'09. Like our bball sites writes, that Danilo has plans to stay and practise in US all summer long and if he will come back to Italy, it will be only for short vacations.

rikhardur
03-10-2009, 10:53 PM
Recalcati Looks At Players In March Training Camp

Italy will face an enormous task this summer when they go up against France and Finland in the EuroBasket Additional Qualifying Round Group B.

There's no time like the present for Azzurri coach Carlo Recalcati to start preparing for both teams, which is why he is holding a training camp in Domegge di Cadore from March 16-17 for 16 of his Italian-based players.

Luca Lechthaler of defending Lega A champions and Coppa Italia winners Montepaschi Siena has been named along with Marco Mordente, an Italy veteran who has been excelling with Armani Jeans Milano.

Angelo Gigli, a key member of the EuroBasket 2007 squad who missed last summer's qualifying campaign through injury, is also included.

The only player from the Lega Due to be named is Monferrato center Tommaso Fantoni, who played in two qualifying games last summer.

The 2.03m center Fantoni, who turns 24 on Wednesday, is averaging 12.6 points and 5.5 rebounds for fourth-place Monferrato.

Squad for Italy training camp:

Valerie Amoroso (202-F-80) (Bancatercas Teramo)

Michele Antonutti (203-G/F-86) (Snaidero Udine)

Pietro Aradori (192-G-88) (Angelico Biella)

Daniele Cavaliero (189-G-84) (Premiata Montegranaro)

Daniele Cinciarini (194-G-83) (Air Avellino)

Andrea Crosariol (212-C-84, (Air Avellino)

Luigi Datome (202-G/F-87) (Lottomatica Roma)

Tommaso Fantoni (203-F-85) (Fastweb Casale Monferrato)

Luca Garri (207-C/F-82) (Angelico Biella)

Jacopo Giachetti (191-G-83) (Lottomatica Roma)

Angelo Gigli (209-F/C-83) (Lottomatica Roma)

Luca Lechthaler (207-C-86) (Montepaschi Siena)

Marco Mordente (191-G-79) (Armani Jeans Milano)

Giuseppe Poeta (190-G-85) (Bancatercas Teramo)

Andrea Renzi (208-F/C-89) (Benetton Treviso)

Luca Vitali (201-G-86) (Armani Jeans Milano)
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_UZv2I1koIvgNUcOrY3omi2.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

rikhardur
03-24-2009, 01:18 AM
D'Antoni, Italy Fret Over Gallinari

Italian basketball fans are worried about the back problems that have plagued Danilo Gallinari during his rookie season in the NBA and so are the New York Knicks faithful.

New York coach Mike D'Antoni has done nothing to allay the anxiety, admitting in the Italian media over the weekend that he's "a bit nervous" about the 20-year-old who has played in just 28 games this season.

Gallinari was due to rejoin the Knicks on Monday after having his back examined by doctors in Milan.

"I think we will have him back for next season, whether it's with physiotherapy or an operation, that we still don't know," D'Antoni said.

"Certainly, I am a bit nervous and he should be also because there are no guarantees.

"We know we cannot make any mistakes when dealing with this situation. Danilo is a very important part of our future."

The New York Times reported last week that Gallinari is likely to decline an invitation to play for Italy in the Additional Qualifying Round (AQR) for EuroBasket 2009.

In the AQR, Italy are in Group B with France and Finland.

Should the Italians finish top of that pool, they will then have to win in a home-and-away tie against the winners of Group A (Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina or Portugal) to advance to Poland for the Final Round.

Italy still do not know if three of the other North American-based players - Toronto Raptors center Andrea Bargnani, Golden State Warriors guard Marco Belinelli or University of Southern California point guard Daniel Hackett - will play.

Bargnani has been on a tear since February 10, averaging more than 20 points in 16 games.

However, he missed Sunday's win over the Los Angeles Clippers with a sore left heel.

Hackett's Trojans suffered a narrow defeat to Michigan State on Sunday night to bow out of the NCAA Tournament in the round of 32.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_Q85tXZ,WHiYSFCw-O8Pu41.container_frontpage.articleMode_on.html

mvblair
03-24-2009, 02:48 PM
I can't imagine Gallinari playing in the qualifiers (or the rest of the NBA this year). Back pain is a killer and Gallinari is the victim. Maybe if he skips the rest of the NBA season, he can play for Italy, but seriously, this is a young kid who is at the start of his career. He could risk his career coming back to soon. Of course, he shouldn't act like Ilgauskas and dedicate his career to his franchise, but I think it would be very risky for him to play in the summer.

I'm sure Bargnani and Belinelli will play for Italy. Bargnani is having a All-Star second half of the season and seems very healthy. Hackett will no doubt travel with the team, but he might not make it onto the court because Italy has a lot of guards "ahead" of him, like Belinelli, Basile, Bulleri, Giachetti, and di Bella. Of course, maybe Hackett has improved so much as a point guard that Recalcati will be forced to play him!

special-thanks-2
03-24-2009, 04:12 PM
Damn, I got the feeling we'e never going to see our real NT. There's always something wrong, call it NBA, call it injuries, call it players' strike. It's been so long since the last time I saw a decent Italian team. This really bothers me.


I can't imagine Gallinari playing in the qualifiers (or the rest of the NBA this year). Back pain is a killer and Gallinari is the victim. Maybe if he skips the rest of the NBA season, he can play for Italy, but seriously, this is a young kid who is at the start of his career. He could risk his career coming back to soon. Of course, he shouldn't act like Ilgauskas and dedicate his career to his franchise, but I think it would be very risky for him to play in the summer.

I'm sure Bargnani and Belinelli will play for Italy. Bargnani is having a All-Star second half of the season and seems very healthy. Hackett will no doubt travel with the team, but he might not make it onto the court because Italy has a lot of guards "ahead" of him, like Belinelli, Basile, Bulleri, Giachetti, and di Bella. Of course, maybe Hackett has improved so much as a point guard that Recalcati will be forced to play him!

Okay, you can pull Gallinari off the list. We all know it would be crazy for such a young and promising guy underestimate his back pains. He just needs to think about his health since he's very injury-prone. It's a shame because due to another injury he already was forced to give up NT in 2007. It's like destiny doesn't want him to play official games with Italy.

Basile said he considers his NT experience over. He's 34 and wants to rest in the summer months.

Bulleri could be once again bouncing around. A total bust playing for Milano and Virtus Bologna, he's doing great since he went back to Treviso, not far from the levels he reached some years ago. It seemed there were no more chances for him, but as long as he keeps playing this way I guess Recalcati will call him back.

Giachetti played great in the first part of the season as backup PG. He stole Brandon Jennings' minutes and was decisive in several games. But then, he started fading. I think he'll get a call only in friendly games, otherwise he'll get a chance only if someone else is injured.


Recalcati loves Hackett. I'm sure he's going to call him. The problem is there's too much crowd in the PG spot (Poeta, Bulleri, Vitali, Hackett), even if Vitali is more of a combo-guard than a pure PG.

mvblair
03-24-2009, 09:58 PM
Damn, I got the feeling we'e never going to see our real NT. There's always something wrong, call it NBA, call it injuries, call it players' strike. It's been so long since the last time I saw a decent Italian team. This really bothers me. I think you're right. But even if Gallinari doesn't play, I think Bargnani is the better player for almost any team.
Basile said he considers his NT experience over. He's 34 and wants to rest in the summer months. That's too bad. He's still got a lot of game.
Recalcati loves Hackett. I'm sure he's going to call him. The problem is there's too much crowd in the PG spot (Poeta, Bulleri, Vitali, Hackett), even if Vitali is more of a combo-guard than a pure PG. Hackett is also more of a combo-guard (I've read) in the NCAA, where the players are simply smaller than they are in the European competitions. In the NCAA, he has learned to play both positions, so maybe there will be some playing time for him. Who knows?

rikhardur
03-27-2009, 12:47 AM
ITA/USA – Surgery appears likely for Gallinari

NEW YORK (NBA) – New York Knicks rookie Danilo Gallinari is likely to have surgery in a bid to solve the back trouble that has plagued the Italian this season.

Gallinari visited with specialists last weekend in Milan and Verona and returned to New York on Monday.

When asked about the possibility of surgery, the 20-year-old said: "Yeah, I'm leaning in that direction.

"We tried everything for eight months to figure out this problem. Last week, we were talking about this with specialists about the right idea and what to do.”

The aim of surgery is to relieve pressure on a nerve in his back.

Knicks officials will confer with specialists this week before making an announcement on Gallinari, who played in just 28 games this season.

Gallinari has not publically ruled out playing for Italy in the EuroBasket 2009 Additional Qualifying Round though his appearance seems unlikely.

Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni, meanwhile, has no regrets selecting Gallinari sixth in last year's draft.

"We didn't pick anybody to win the title this year," D'Antoni said.

"We picked guys that in one, two, three years will develop into some of the best players in the league.

"We're pretty confident he's on that track. Now whether he does or not, nobody can see into the future."
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29723/arti.html

jugoplastika
04-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Speaking of the summer, which can’t come soon enough, Andrea Bargnani told me yesterday he’s definitely going to play for Italy.

And it could be busy.

The Italians have to play in an additional qualification round this summer – against the likes of France and Israel – just to make it to Eurobasket 2009 in September so there’s a chance the majority of Bargnani’s off-season will be taken up with national team obligations.

You all right with that?

Of course, Italy could bow out in the first qualifier and he’d have all of September off but that might not be the case.

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/2009/04/quincys-time-and-andreas-summer.html

rikhardur
04-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Great news for Italy!



ITA – Azzurri get thumbs-up from Bargnani

ROME (EuroBasket 2009) – Italy coach Carlo Recalcati delivered some morale-boosting news on Thursday when revealing that Toronto Raptors star Andrea Bargnani will play for the Azzurri this summer.

The headlines in recent weeks have been about the injury-plagued season of Danilo Gallinari and a back operation that has all but ruled the New York Knicks rookie out of the Additional Qualifying Round games for EuroBasket 2009.

Italy played without Bargnani, Marco Belinelli (Golden State Warriors), Gallinari and Daniel Hackett (University of Southern California) last summer.

"I want to have the best players available for the qualifiers,” Recalcati said in an FIP statement.

“Obviously, among them I include the ones that play in America; Bargnani has already given his availability. I will meet Belinelli in a couple of weeks' time when he returns to Italy and for Hackett, we will have to wait until the NBA draft on June 25.”

Bargnani turned into a far more explosive player this season with the Raptors, averaging 15.3 points and 5.3 rebounds per game.

The seven-footer had even better statistics over the last half of the campaign following the trade of center Jermaine O’Neal to Miami.

Recalcati is already looking ahead to the opening game showdown with France.

"We will not have a long preparation but I believe it will be enough to arrive in the best possible condition for the games that count - first the one with France, a traditional rival that has great quality,” Recalcati said.

“We will not underestimate the other teams but the first game at home will be crucial."

As for the French Basketball Federation’s much publicised signing of a letter of engagement by point guard Tony Parker that commits the San Antonio Spurs point guard to national team duty through the summer of 2012, FIP president Dino Meneghin said: "We hope our players don't need a piece of paper.

“The national team is not a contract. It's a feeling, an emotion. For me, a handshake means much more."
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29877/arti.html

rikhardur
04-25-2009, 11:20 PM
ITA – Hackett looks ahead to 2014 with Italy

ROME (2014 FIBA World Championship) - Italian-born and raised Daniel Hackett has spent the past seven years in America playing basketball in high school, and then college at the University of Southern California.

Though he’s focused right now on embarking on a professional career that will probably land him in the NBA, the point guard has one eye on 2014 when he wants to be a full-fledged member of Italy’s national side.

Italy are hoping to host the 2014 FIBA World Championship.

“The 2014 FIBA World Championship is closer that we think,” Hackett said in remarks on www.italia2014.com.

“It has to be played in Italy and I am fighting for my place in the team.”

FIBA will announce next month whether Italy, Spain or China are to host the event.

Hackett the Italian

Hackett’s father, Rudy Hackett, played professional basketball in Italy at the end of the 1980s.

The 21-year-old Hackett, who was born in Forlimpopoli and grew up in Italy, moved to America with his family and eventually earned a scholarship to USC where his father is the team trainer.

This season, Hackett helped the Trojans capture the Pac-10 title and reach the NCAA Tournament.

Because he has declared for the NBA draft and is uncertain about possible commitments that follow, he hasn’t been able to give a thumbs-up yet to Italy coach Carlo Recalcati on taking part in the Additional Qualifying Round for EuroBasket 2009.

However, Hackett is friends with many of Italy’s players like Danilo Gallinari and has already forged links with the Italian national team set-up.

“I started to practice with the team two years ago and I managed to grab my spot on the court…,” he said.

“I am Italian and not from Los Angeles and my heart beats for the Italian national team."

Hackett envisions a time when he represents the country of his birth in a major basketball competition.

"It would be fantastic to be able to play at an event like the 2014 FIBA World Championship in Italy,” he said.

“I could finally play in front of my friends and provoke a unique feeling that can only be understood by someone who really loves his home country.”
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29972/arti.html

FilWelsh
04-26-2009, 02:49 AM
How i wish Italy would qualify in Eurobasket. . . they should have qualified last year but breaks were not on their side. . . hoping they will do so this year. . . it just unfortunate you will face a tough opponent such as France when if you reviewed the rosters of those who already qualified, you can say France and Italy are more deserving to be there earlier and not to fight between the two of them for a remaining lone qualifier this year. . .

rikhardur
04-26-2009, 11:30 PM
Confirmed – All Systems Go For Belinelli

Italy coach Carlo Recalcati revealed at this weekend's EuroChallenge Final Four in Bologna that Golden State have given a thumbs-up on guard Marco Belinelli representing the Azzurri this summer when they attempt to qualify for the EuroBasket in Poland.

Belinelli remained in the United States last year to get ready for his second year in the NBA but he now looks set to play for the Italians when they attempt to reach the EuroBasket via the Additional Qualifying Round.

Italy will go up against France and Finland in Group B and if they finish top, Recalcati's team will then challenge Portugal, Bosnia and Herzegovina or Belgium for the remaining spot on offer for the Final Round.

"I met the Golden State general manager just yesterday and we talked about Belinelli," Recalcati said to Basketball World News on Friday night.

"And Golden State is very happy for Belinelli to play with the national team.

"That's good to know that he is with us, the same with (Andrea) Bargnani."

Belinelli was enjoying a breakout season with the Warriors until he suffered a badly sprained ankle in January.

He returned to action several weeks later and finished the campaign having averaged 8.9 points per game.

Bargnani will start at center for Italy this summer. He enjoyed a very strong third season with Toronto, averaging more than 15 points and five rebounds per contest. His numbers were even better the last two months following the trade of center Jermaine O'Neal to Miami.

"Andrea is arriving in Italy next week and he'll be with the national team in Bormio when we gather on July 2," Recalcati said.

"I have to check the physical condition of some other veteran players (in Italy). I think that we'll have the best team that we can put on the court next summer.

"We won't have (New York Knicks rookie) Danilo Gallinari, of course, because of his (back) surgery."

Recalcati doesn't know if Daniel Hackett will play, either.

Hackett, who just finished his junior season with the University of Southern California, has declared for the NBA draft. If available, he is a near certainty for the squad.

"I believe in Daniel," Recalcati said.

"I think he is the right kind of player for the national team, and, he wants to play. This is very, very important. He's Italian, he likes the blue shirt and he's an incredible guy."
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_2LG2QBrCI0IBixu,FyvB-1.articleMode_on.container_frontpage.html

jugoplastika
04-28-2009, 03:23 PM
Belinelli is allowed to play at Eurobasket

Italy coach Carlo Recalcati revealed at this weekend’s EuroChallenge Final Four in Bologna that Golden State Warriors guard Marco Belinelli(1.96-SG/SF) will represent the Azzurri this summer when they attempt to qualify for the EuroBasket in Poland.


Golden State have given their blessing for Belinelli, who just finished his second season in the NBA, to compete for his national team when they go up against France and Finland in the Additional Qualifying Round.


“I met the Golden State general manager just yesterday and we talked about Belinelli,” Recalcati said to FIBA.com on Friday night. “And Golden State is very happy for Belinelli to play with the national team. “That's good to know that he is with us, the same with (Andrea) Bargnani.”

http://thehoop.blogspot.com/2009/04/belinelli-is-allowed-to-play-in.html

:)

rikhardur
04-28-2009, 08:45 PM
Belinelli Ecstatic He’ll Join Italy This Summer

Marco Belinelli is thrilled that his NBA side Golden State have given their blessing for him to take part in this year's Additional Qualifying Round with Italy.

Belinelli remained in the United States last summer to prepare for his second NBA campaign with the Warriors and Italy missed him a great deal as they finished third in Division A Group A behind Serbia and Bulgaria.

That result has left the Azzurri needing to claim the one remaining spot for the EuroBasket in Poland that is on offer in the extra qualifiers and to do that, one of the teams they will have to beat is France.

"The Warriors have accepted my desire and I am really happy," Belinelli said.

"The national team means a lot to me and for me to play gives me great joy. I honestly cannot wait to play.

"I have already spoken to (France center) Ronny Turiaf, my Warriors teammate. The (opening) game (between France and Italy) will be a special one for the both of us. I am already charged up for that game."

Italy must finish top of Group B in the Additional Qualifying Round above France and Finland with games at home and away against both.

If they achieve a first place finish, Belinelli and the Italians would then go up against the winner of Group A (Portugal, Belgium or Bosnia and Herzegovina) in a two-legged final.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_vF-5ZCEaJPIJ0qtNnMXTt3.container_frontpage.articleMod e_on.html

rikhardur
05-13-2009, 09:39 PM
ITA – Bargnani keeps fingers crossed that Italy will stage FIBA World Championship

ROME (2014 FIBA World Championship) - Italy big man Andrea Bargnani has expressed the hope that his country will on May 23 be named hosts of the 2014 FIBA World Championship.

FIBA will make the announcement in Geneva, with China and Spain also hoping to host the prestigious event.

Toronto Raptors star Bargnani, the number one draft pick overall in the NBA a few summers ago, said in an FIP statement: "To organize the 2014 World Championship would represent for our movement a starting point to re-launch basketball and bring the sport to young.

"I would be delighted to compete in such an important event in Italy.

“I played in Rome with the Raptors and it was exciting. It would be fantastic to face the strongest teams in the world in front of our fans."
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/30179/arti.html

rikhardur
06-15-2009, 03:23 PM
Recalcati Receives Contract Extension

Italy have extended the contract of national team boss Carlo Recalcati for at least another year.

Recalcati, whose contract was set to end in September 2009, will now be in charge through the end of September in 2010.

He will this summer attempt to lead the Azzurri into the EuroBasket in Poland by winning the Additional Qualifying Round (AQR) in August.

France, Finland, Portugal, Belgium and Bosnia and Herzegovina are also in the AQR.

The Italian Basketball Federation (FIP) have announced on their website: "The Federal Council has reached an agreement with national men's team coach Carlo Recalcati, deciding to continue the working relationship until September 30, 2010. Such agreement previews the extension of the working relationship based on the sporting results that will be achieved."

The EuroBasket is the qualifying event for the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

The 60-year-old Recalcati, a former Italy national team player, has been at the helm of the Azzurri for several years.

He guided them to a bronze medal at EuroBasket 2003 in Sweden and to silver at the Athens Olympics the following year.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_zWuG2uMbI6UJWK3w81CrM0.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

:rolleyes:

Toxicity
06-18-2009, 10:15 PM
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_zWuG2uMbI6UJWK3w81CrM0.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

:rolleyes:

It sucks. :mad:

damelo
06-19-2009, 09:09 AM
It sucks. :mad:

It means I can be happy? Tony Parker won't be too much in Eva's area this summer? :rolleyes:

Toxicity
06-19-2009, 09:26 PM
It means I can be happy? Tony Parker won't be too much in Eva's area this summer? :rolleyes:

It means italian federation is blind... Recalcati is done.

I don't know if you can be happy... i hope not. ;)

BTW today the Italy NT roster was released:


1. Amoroso Valerio 80 204 A/C Bancatercas Teram
2. Bargnani Andrea 85 213 A/C Toronto Raptors
3. Belinelli Marco Stefano 86 196 G Golden State Warrio
4. Bulleri Massimo 77 188 Pm Benetton Treviso
5. Crosariol Andrea 84 210 C Air Avellino
6. Cusin Marco 85 211 C Vanoli Soresina
7. Datome Luigi 87 203 A Lottomatica Roma
8. Garri Luca 82 206 A/C Angelico Biella
9. Giachetti Jacopo 83 192 Pm Lottomatica Roma
10. Gigli Angelo 83 209 A/C Lottomatica Roma
11. Mancinelli Stefano 83 203 A Gmac Bologna
12. Mordente Marco 79 190 G Aj Milano
13. Poeta Giuseppe 85 192 Pm Bancatercas Teram
14. Soragna Matteo 75 198 A Benetton Treviso
15. Stonerook Shaun 77 201 A Montepaschi Siena
16. Vitali Luca 86 201 Pm Aj Milano

Giocatori a disposizione (riserve a casa):
17. Aradori Pietro 88 195 A/G Angelico Biella
18. Cinciarini Daniele 83 194 G Air Avellino
19. Cittadini Alessandro 79 207 C Gmac Bologna
20. Hackett Daniel 87 196 Pm Usc Trojans
21. Ress Tomas 80 208 A/C Montepaschi Siena
22. Spinelli Valerio 79 185 Pm Angelico Biella

I've more faith in the team since Shaun Stonerook seems in the roster for the first time... :eek:

Picek
06-24-2009, 02:49 PM
Valerio Amoroso (Bacatercas Teramo)
Giuseppe Poeta (Bacatercas Teramo)
Andrea Bargnani (Toronto Raptors)
Marco Belinelli (Golden State Warriors)
Massimo Bulleri (Benetton)
Matteo Soragna (Benetton)
Andrea Crosariol (Air Avellino)
Marco Cusin (Vanoli Soresina)
Luigi Datome (Lottomatica Roma)
Jacopo Giachetti (Lottomatica Roma)
Angelo Gigli (Lottomatica Roma)
Luca Garri (Angelico Biella)
Stefano Mancinelli (Gmac Bologna)
Marco Mordente (AJ Milano)
Luca Vitali (AJ Milano)
Stonerook Shaun (Montepaschi Siena)

thin under basket as always and their PG's aren't really what they used to be..
who's idea was to invite Giachetti? lol Recalcati should be shot to death just because of that..
other than that nice roster, especially strong on positions 2,3 and 4 but I don't think they stand a chance against France..

Toxicity
06-24-2009, 05:27 PM
Valerio Amoroso (Bacatercas Teramo)
Giuseppe Poeta (Bacatercas Teramo)
Andrea Bargnani (Toronto Raptors)
Marco Belinelli (Golden State Warriors)
Massimo Bulleri (Benetton)
Matteo Soragna (Benetton)
Andrea Crosariol (Air Avellino)
Marco Cusin (Vanoli Soresina)
Luigi Datome (Lottomatica Roma)
Jacopo Giachetti (Lottomatica Roma)
Angelo Gigli (Lottomatica Roma)
Luca Garri (Angelico Biella)
Stefano Mancinelli (Gmac Bologna)
Marco Mordente (AJ Milano)
Luca Vitali (AJ Milano)
Stonerook Shaun (Montepaschi Siena)

thin under basket as always and their PG's aren't really what they used to be..
who's idea was to invite Giachetti? lol Recalcati should be shot to death just because of that..
other than that nice roster, especially strong on positions 2,3 and 4 but I don't think they stand a chance against France..

Thin? Probably but Crosariol and Bargnani are both 7-0 and around 250lbs... who has France with the same size other than Turiaf?

Poeta is the best PG we have since a long time... he's better than Bulleri imo. He's no Pozzecco (yet) unfortunately...

I agree about Giachetti: Recalcati had, as always, a bad idea... :rolleyes:

Anyway i think we have some chances against France... they miss Noah and M. Pietrus and they're a young, athletic team but somehow unexperienced and without real 3p threats (you know in FIBA basketball outside shot is very important).

Toxicity
07-05-2009, 09:30 PM
Official 16-men roster in Bormio:

1. Amoroso Valerio (80, 204, A/C, Bancatercas Teramo)
2. Aradori Pietro (88, 195, A/G, Angelico Biella)
3. Bargnani Andrea (85, 213, A/C, Toronto Raptors)
4. Belinelli Marco Stefano (86, 196, G, Golden State Warriors)
5. Crosariol Andrea (84, 210, C, Lottomatica Roma)
6. Cusin Marco (85, 211, C, Vanoli Soresina)
7. Datome Luigi Dal (87, 203, A, Lottomatica Roma)
8. Garri Luca (82, 206, A/C, Angelico Biella)
9. Giachetti Jacopo (83, 192, Pm, Lottomatica Roma)
10. Hackett Daniel (87, 196, Pm, Benetton Treviso)
11. Gigli Angelo (83, 209, A/C, Lottomatica Roma)
12. Mancinelli Stefano (83, 203, A, Gmac Bologna)
13. Mordente Marco (79, 190, G, Aj Milano)
14. Poeta Giuseppe (85, 192, Pm, Bancatercas Teramo)
15. Soragna Matteo (75, 198, A, Free Agent)
16. Vitali Luca (86, 201, Pm, Aj Milano)

In the end Shaun Stonerook and Massimo Bulleri refused to play for the Italian NT: two great misses...

rikhardur
07-05-2009, 09:44 PM
In the end Shaun Stonerook and Massimo Bulleri refused to play for the Italian NT: two great misses...
:eek: Why did Stonerook refuse? I thought he was more than willing to play for Italy...

Toxicity
07-05-2009, 09:54 PM
:eek: Why did Stonerook refuse? I thought he was more than willing to play for Italy...

He already said during this season that he's old for playing and has to recover from some hernia during the summer... it's almost the same story every year: Recalcati tries to call him but Shaun refuses... what a pity. :(

rikhardur
07-13-2009, 04:02 PM
ITA – Belinelli ready to fight for the Azzurri in bid to reach the EuroBasket

ROME (EuroBasket 2009) - If Italy are to reach EuroBasket 2009 in Poland and then have a chance of qualifying for next year’s FIBA World Championship in Turkey, they will need big performances from Marco Belinelli and Andrea Bargnani.

Youngsters two years ago at the EuroBasket in Spain, both players know that national team coach Carlo Recalcati will be looking for signification contributions from them and not only in terms of points, assists and rebounds.

He will also expect both NBA players to lead.

"At the start of the our training camp, especially Bargnani and I will need to face it with the right mentality, ready to go out on the court, train well and be a group,” said Belinelli, who is coming off his second year in America with the Golden State Warriors.

“France has created a very strong squad with eight or nine NBA players. It's going to be tough but we are ready to give the best.”

Indeed, the Italians must beat France and Finland in Group B of the Additional Qualifying Round for the EuroBasket and then defeat the winner of Group A (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belgium and Portugal) in a home-and-away tie to claim the last remaining place on offer for Poland.

If they make it that far, Italy would then need to finish in the top six of the EuroBasket to advance to next year’s big event in Turkey.

Should 2010 hosts Turkey be among the top six, then a top-seven finish in Poland for Italy would do.

“I am returning to play with the Azzurri colors after Madrid (2007) because I want to,” said Belinelli, insisting he felt no pressure to play for the national side back in Italy.

“To play with the national team is a pleasure. I am doing it for all the Italians but more importantly, for myself. It's something I want to do and I hope to help the national team obtain results, starting with the qualifying round games. I can't wait to play against (Golden State’s Ronny) Turiaf.”
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/31000/arti.html

Picek
07-16-2009, 07:12 PM
played yesterday:

ITALIA – REPUBBLICA CECA 64-63 (20-20, 13 -11, 14-15, 17-17)
ITALIA: Giachetti (0/1), Mancinelli 3 (0/3), Soragna 10 (2/2, 1/3), Poeta 7 (0/1, 0/1, 7/8 tl), Mordente 7 (2/2, 1/4), Vitali 0/3 3p), Crosariol 5 (2/5), Garri 2 (1/1, 0/1), Gigli 3 (1/1, 0/2), Belinelli 19 (5/9, 0/2, 9/10 tl), Cusin 1 (½ tl), Aradori 7 (2/3, 0/2). All. Recalcati
REPUBBLICA CECA: Marek 7 (1/2, 1/3), Kotas, Slezak 12 (4/6, 1/4, 5/10 tl), Satoranski 5 (1/3, 1/1), Pumpria 1 (0/1, 0/2), Sokolovski 2 (1/3, 0/2), Veseley 2 (1/1, 0/2), Pospisil 2 (1/6, 0/1), Benda 10 (5/6), Bohacik 11 (1/5, 1/2), Hampl 6 (2/4), Licatovsky 5 (¼, 1/3), All. Jezoik

Arbitri. Biggi, Mattioli, Begnis

Note: Ita 17/46 (28/37 tl, 15/28 da 2, 2/18 da 3). Rimbalzi 30 (Garri 5). RepC. 23/61 (12/17 tl, 18/41 da 2, 5/20 da 3). Rimbalzi 37 (Benda 7)
Matteo Soragna ha superato 800 punti realizzati con la maglia azzurra, espulso Belinelli (35') per doppio antisportivo




ITALIA-SVEZIA 85-49 (28-19, 16-9, 18-8, 23-13)
ITALIA: Giachetti (0/1 da tre), Mancinelli 14 (3/4, 2/3), Soragna 7 (2/2, 1/1), Mordente 7 (0/1, 1/4) Vitali 3 (0/2 da tre), Garri 3 (1/2, 0/1) Gigli 7 (1/2), Amoroso (0/2 da tre), Belinelli 12 (4/6, 0/3), Hackett 4 (2/4, 0/1) Aradori 9 (2/2, 1/2), Bargnani 19 (5/8, 0/2).
All: Recalcati
SVEZIA: Nystrom 7 (2/2, 1/1), Massamba 6 (1/1, 0/1), Lindquist (0/4 da tre), Levin 2 (1/6, 0/1) Ilunga 5 (1/1, 0/3), Inan 3 (1/3 da tre), Grant 4 (0/1, 1/3), Kjellbom 2 (0/3), Blom 6 (3/4, 0/2), Ringstrom (0/2, 0/3), Myrthill (0/1), Skjoldebrand 14 (1/1, 4/11).
All: Flevarakis

Arbitri: Begnis, Cicoria, Quacci

Note T2 Ita 20/31; Sve 9/22. T3 Ita 5/22; Sve 7/32. TL Ita 30/38; Sve 10/14. Rimbalzi Ita 7+36; Sve 2+23. Assist Ita 5; Sve 2.

Nella prima gara la Repubblica Ceca ha battuto il Senegal col punteggio di 81-59.

Picek
07-18-2009, 02:46 PM
ITALIA-SENEGAL 67-63 (17-8, 12-21, 22-18, 16-16)
ITALIA: Mancinelli 7 (2/4, 1/3), Soragna 5 (1/4, 1/2), Poeta 4 (1/3, 0/3), Mordente (0/2 da tre), Vitali 2 (0/1 da tre), Crosariol 4 (0/2), Datome 8 (4/4, 0/1), Amoroso (0/1, 0/4), Hackett (0/3), Cusin 8 (4/5, 0/1), Aradori 11 (2/2, 1/5), Bargnani 18 (2/10, 3/5).
All: Recalcati
SENEGAL: Kotè, Sow 10 (5/11, 0/1), Diop 6 (3/8), Cisse 6 (3/4, 0/2), Thioune 2 (1/2, 0/3), Ndoye 15 (2/4, 3/8), Niang, Faye 14 (3/5, 2/5), Ndiaye, Coly 3 (1/3), Mbengue, Badiane 7 (2/7).
All: Ndiaye

Arbitri: Longhi, D’Este, Mattioli

Note T2 Ita 16/38; Sen 20/44. T3 Ita 6/27; Sen 5/19. TL Ita 17/21; Sen 8/14. Rimbalzi: Ita 11+25; Sen 13+34 (12 Diop). Assist: Ita 6 (4 Mancinelli); Sen 9 (4 Diop).

Spettatori: 350 circa

Picek
07-19-2009, 06:11 AM
Italia-Repubblica Ceca 89-97 (18-27; 41-58; 62-76)
ITALIA: Mancinelli 11 (5/7, 0/1), Soragna 2 (1/2), Poeta 10 (0/2, 1/2), Mordente 7 (2/2, 1/1), Datome 6 (2/4, 0/1), Garri 5 (1/2, 1/1), Gigli 2 (1/1), Belinelli 26 (3/8, 1/3), Hackett 2 (0/3), Cusin 4 (1/4), Aradori 7 (2/2), Bargnani 11 (1/7, 1/4). All. Recalcati
REP.CECA: Marek 3 (1/3 da 3), Kotas ne, Slezas 14 (4/7, 2/3), Satoransky 8 (4/5), Pumprla ne, Solokovsky 18 (0/2, 5/7), Vesely 9 (2/3, 0/1), Pospisil 9 (3/4), Benda 18 (7/11), Bohacik 6 (0/3, 2/2), Hampl, Licartovsky 8 (2/5, 0/4). All. Jedzisk

Note: T2: Italia 19/44, Rep.Ceca 22/40, T3: Italia 10/21, Rep Ceca 5/12, TL: Italia 36/50, Rep.Ceca 23/28. Rimbalzi: Italia 32 (Belinelli 5), Rep.Ceca 30 (Marek 6).

Arbitri: Longhi, D’Este, Babacar (dalla Federazione senegalese)

Spettatori: 350 circa

not the greatest result for Italy..
yeah it is still early but Czechs are playing with pretty young squad without their stars Barton and Welsch..
and losing by 17 after the first half to them..
it does make you wonder..
if Italy doesn't qualify to the EC I wonder if the italian bball federation will finaly have the strength to fire Recalcati..

btw. take a look at the FT attempts :D

p.s. sweden won against senegal 60-46

Toxicity
07-19-2009, 10:03 PM
not the greatest result for Italy..
yeah it is still early but Czechs are playing with pretty young squad without their stars Barton and Welsch..
and losing by 17 after the first half to them..
it does make you wonder..
if Italy doesn't qualify to the EC I wonder if the italian bball federation will finaly have the strength to fire Recalcati..

btw. take a look at the FT attempts :D

p.s. sweden won against senegal 60-46

We suck big time... 5th august is coming soon and we are not ready at all. But, Gallinari apart, we have all the right players so it has to be a coach fault...

If Italy doesn't qualify for the Euro Championship there's still a chance Recalcati can hold his job: a wild card for the 2010 World Championship!!! :eek: :mad:

Picek
07-26-2009, 05:15 AM
ITALIA-CANADA 91-69 (19-19, 45-34, 73-51)
Italia. Hackett 5 (1/3), Mordente (0/3),Belinelli 22 (7/10, 2/6), Gigli 3,Bargnani 28 (7/10, 2/4). Giachetti (0/1), Soragna 3 (1/1), Poeta 7 (1/1, 0/1), Crosariol 2 (1/1), Datome 8 (1/1, 2/4), Amoroso5 (1/1, 1/4), Aradori 8 (1/3, 1/3). Allenatore Carlo Recalcati.
Canada. Anderson (0/2, 0/3), Famutimi, Rautins 15 (0/3, 5/10), Young 16 (6/11), Kendall 3 (0/5, 1/2). Kepkay 12 (1/4, 3/3), Bell 2, Bucknor 3 (0/2, 1/2), Martin 4 (2/6), Doornekamp 6 (0/3, 1/1), Landry 2 (0/2), Hicks (), Shepherd, Pangos 6 (2/2). Allenatore: Leo Rautins
Arbitri. Lorenzo Gori, Roberto Pinto, Paolo Longhi
Tiri: T2: Ita 19/28; Can 11/41. T3: Ita 10/29; Can 11/20. TL : Ita 23/28, Can 14/15. Assist: Ita 23 (Hackett 5), Can 15 (Anderson 4). Rimbalzi: Ita 29 (Bargnani 6), Can 43 (Doonerkamp 7).


New Zealand beat Portugal 98-91

Picek
07-27-2009, 08:09 AM
ITALIA-NUOVA ZELANDA 88-70 (29-14, 46-32, 69-51)
Italia. Soragna (0/2 da tre), Poeta 10 (3/6, 1/2), Belinelli 20 (6/9, 2/4), Amoroso 16 (4/4, 2/3), Gigli 7 (2/4, 1/2). Mordente 6 (1/3, 1/2), Vitali 3 (0/1, 1/1), Datome 4 (1/4, 0/6), Garri 11 (3/5, 1/2), Hackett 2 (0/1 da tre), Cusin 5 (2/2), Aradori 4 (1/3, 0/1). Allenatore: Carlo Recalcati.
Nuova Zelanda. Tait 10 (3/6), Penney 28 (1/8, 6/12), Vukona 4 (2/3, 0/2), Pledger 2 (1/6), Frank 2 (1/1, 0/1). Kenny, Fitchett 7 (0/3, 1/4), Webster 2 (1/1), Henry, Abercrombie 9 (1/2, 1/1), Loe 6 (0/2, 2/3), Trueman. Allenatore Nenad Vucinic.
Arbitri: Lorenzo Gori, Roberto Pinto, Paolo Longhi
Note: 5 falli: Vukona
Tiri: T2: Ita 23/41, Nz 10/32; T3: Ita 9/26, Nz 10/23; TL: Ita 15/17, Nz 20/26. Rimbalzi: Ita 34 (Garri 8), Nz 38 (Penney 8). Assist: Ita 20 (Belinelli 7), Nz 13 (Fitchett 5).

Canada beat Portugal 74-55.

Portugal looks to be in really poor form with only 10 days to go.

And Italy was outrebounded both by New Zealand and Canada, when France bigs come to town it will be a huge difference..

Toxicity
07-28-2009, 06:25 AM
And Italy was outrebounded both by New Zealand and Canada, when France bigs come to town it will be a huge difference..

We won medals despite being outrebounded... ;)

For sure it's a problem, because italian players often forget boxing out their opponents... if we add the fact that Recalcati doesn't love to play with a pure C downlow then the disaster is complete. Historically our teams are poor at rebounding so i'm not too worried... :rolleyes:

Picek
07-28-2009, 06:50 AM
We won medals despite being outrebounded... ;)


that is true, but then again you had better shooters before then you currently do..
although this game (http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.gameID_1783-4-A-1.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_1999.roundI D_1783.teamID_.html) was won by defence.. it's been 10 years since then..


ITALIA-PORTOGALLO 83-72 (16-15, 30-33, 54-49)
Italia. Poeta 10 (4/6), Mordente 5 (0/1 da tre), Amoroso 5 (1/2, 0/3), Belinelli 13 (1/3, 1/3), Bargnani 11 (3/6, 0/4). Giachetti 6 (2/3, 0/3), Mancinelli 2 (1/2), Soragna 13 (1/2, 3/4), Vitali 7 (0/0, 1/3), Crosariol, Datome (0/2 da tre), Gigli 11 (1/1, 2/3). Allenatore Carlo Recalcati.
Portogallo. Da Silva 8 (3/3), Andrade 12 (1/5, 1/6), Coelho 7 (3/5), Miranda 15 (3/4 da tre), Santos 14 (4/5 da tre). Gomes 1, Costa 2 (0/1 da tre), Carriera 3 (0/2, 1/2), Mota 4 (2/2), Sousa 6 (1/3, 0/1), Figuiredo, Evora. Allenatore: Moncho Lopez.
Arbitri: Alessandro Terreni, Maurizio Pancotto, Paolo Longhi
Note:
Tecnico alla panchina portoghese (23-28, 17’ 49”). Tecnico a Coelho (33-34, 22’37”) e a Belinelli (74-61, 37’13”)
5 falli: Da Silva (61-52, 32’36”), Figuiredo (70-53, 34’ 01”) Belinelli (74-61, 37’13”)
Tiri: T2: Ita 14/25, Por 10/20. T3: Ita 7/26, Por 9/19. TL : Ita 34/45, Por 25/33. Rimbalzi: Ita 28 (Gigli e Amoroso 7), Por 29 (Mirando 8). Assist: Ita 8 (Poeta 4), Por 12 (Da Silva 3).

zwbgr
07-28-2009, 12:10 PM
Is there any official site of Trentino Cup or at least full results on any italian site?

Mindozas
07-28-2009, 12:23 PM
Is there any official site of Trentino Cup or at least full results on any italian site?

Here (http://basket.sportrentino.it/) are articles with results and some stats

zwbgr
07-28-2009, 02:07 PM
Grazie mille :D

krikit
08-02-2009, 06:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWsC_XdG7NA&fmt=18

Mancinelli cheap shot instigates a small brawl vs Canada.

wardjdim
08-02-2009, 07:35 AM
Nice..

Stefano Mancinelli used to be my favorite Italian basketball player. Now he is my favorite Italian boxing player :cool:

Picek
08-02-2009, 09:45 AM
I respected him a lot..
now I think of him as a moron..
Recalcati should kick him out of the team because of this..
but Italians are always acting like that in friendlies on their court and that is way they are always playing friendlies on their court..
reason more for me to cheer for France..

Simonas123
08-02-2009, 09:55 AM
This kind of behaviour is humanless, he should be punished for these kind of actions. While we all know that a fire doesn't ignite by itself, you just can not behave in this manner, no matter what the insult, or a little knock with an elbow it might have been. I'm for kicking him out. Disgrace.

Big Lebowski
08-02-2009, 08:16 PM
Mancinelly is simply a coward and an asshole: he didn't even graduate at school, because he has failed for two consecutive years (in Italy, when it happens, you're out). Till now he has not even been fined by FIP (Italian Basketball Federation) and he will play against France. That's because in FIP they are as cowards as Mancinelli is.
We are probably talking about the most stupid and idiot Italian player, and with lots of chances to win the World award of ignorance.

rikhardur
08-02-2009, 08:18 PM
He must be punished or else... You guys said it all. I mean, he hits him from behind and kicks and punches him in the floor.

Picek
08-02-2009, 09:10 PM
Mancinelly is simply a coward and an asshole: he didn't even graduate at school, because he has failed for two consecutive years (in Italy, when it happens, you're out). Till now he has not even been fined by FIP (Italian Basketball Federation) and he will play against France. That's because in FIP they are as cowards as Mancinelli is.
We are probably talking about the most stupid and idiot Italian player, and with lots of chances to win the World award of ignorance.
what did you expect when:

"Carlo Recalcati, ct azzurro, parla di: “una rissa difficile da capire. C’erano state già scintille non controllate. Peccato. Mi dispiace che sia accaduto, però devo dire che la squadra ha reagito come un sol uomo e questo è positivo, anche se non avremmo voluto che accadesse. La partita? Ah sì, la partita: abbiamo fatto tutto noi, preso vantaggi, li abbiamo fatti rientrare, e non siamo stati capace di chiudere la gara. Dobbiamo crescere, diventare più concreti quando con la Francia, ci sarà anche la differenza canestri a canestri.”

I mean the moron is satisfied because his team acted like one during the brawl.. what a stupid moron :mad::mad:

Toxicity
08-02-2009, 09:33 PM
Recalcati is hopeless... :mad:

Regarding Mancinelli... he should be suspended for some games i think. Even by FIP itself... but it's unlikely so he'll play against France as we need him.

Anyway it's the first time in his career i see a violent act by Stefano on court... he's used to be a good guy. Not the greatest IQ for sure but also not a dirty player or so... until yesterday at least.

Toxicity
08-02-2009, 09:35 PM
but Italians are always acting like that in friendlies on their court and that is way they are always playing friendlies on their court..
reason more for me to cheer for France..

I really don't understand your point... maybe you're joking... :rolleyes:

ip84
08-02-2009, 11:08 PM
Recalcati is hopeless... :mad:

Regarding Mancinelli... he should be suspended for some games i think. Even by FIP itself... but it's unlikely so he'll play against France as we need him.

Anyway it's the first time in his career i see a violent act by Stefano on court... he's used to be a good guy. Not the greatest IQ for sure but also not a dirty player or so... until yesterday at least.
And what happened that he reacted like this? I didn't see any interaction between those two before Mancinelli got crazy.

Toxicity
08-03-2009, 06:35 AM
And what happened that he reacted like this? I didn't see any interaction between those two before Mancinelli got crazy.

Some canadian players played dirty all the game (ask Datome, who's another quiet guy but he was ready to fight after being hit in the head)... especially Domerkamp. Mancinelli after the game said the canadian tried to elbow him in that play... it's not so clear from the video footage but this is what he said.

Toxicity
08-03-2009, 08:16 PM
Here's the 12-men roster for the game against France:

1. Amoroso Valerio (80, 204, A/C, Bancatercas Teramo)
2. Bargnani Andrea (85, 213, A/C, Toronto Raptors)
3. Belinelli Marco Stefano (86, 196, G, Toronto Raptors)
4. Cusin Marco (85, 211, C, Vanoli Soresina)
5. Datome Luigi Dal (87, 203, A, Lottomatica Roma)
6. Giachetti Jacopo (83, 192, Pm, Lottomatica Roma)
7. Gigli Angelo (83, 209, A/C, Lottomatica Roma)
8. Mancinelli Stefano (83, 203, A, AJ Milano)
9. Mordente Marco (79, 190, G, AJ Milano)
10. Poeta Giuseppe (85, 192, Pm, Bancatercas Teramo)
11. Soragna Matteo (75, 198, A, Angelico Biella)
12. Vitali Luca (86, 201, Pm, AJ Milano)

Crosariol is injured and was replaced bu Cusin while Hackett is out as well (probably because we don't need his difense since Parker won't play, and he's not in great shape)...

I don't agree with Recalcati about Aradori sent home... apart Belinelli, we don't have another perimeter player so talented among the guards and small forwards.

obe31
08-04-2009, 08:45 AM
Some canadian players played dirty all the game (ask Datome, who's another quiet guy but he was ready to fight after being hit in the head)... especially Domerkamp. Mancinelli after the game said the canadian tried to elbow him in that play... it's not so clear from the video footage but this is what he said.

What was all that about? It was all over the news! I do enjoy a good punch up from time to time but it got a bit out of hand for a basketball game. Anyway dont forget people that the players are in the middle of the preparation and tempers are a bit short. Big deal out of nothing really, this happens all the time..even with players of the same team.

Srle
08-04-2009, 02:31 PM
Here's the 12-men roster for the game against France:

1. Amoroso Valerio (80, 204, A/C, Bancatercas Teramo)
2. Bargnani Andrea (85, 213, A/C, Toronto Raptors)
3. Belinelli Marco Stefano (86, 196, G, Toronto Raptors)
4. Cusin Marco (85, 211, C, Vanoli Soresina)
5. Datome Luigi Dal (87, 203, A, Lottomatica Roma)
6. Giachetti Jacopo (83, 192, Pm, Lottomatica Roma)
7. Gigli Angelo (83, 209, A/C, Lottomatica Roma)
8. Mancinelli Stefano (83, 203, A, AJ Milano)
9. Mordente Marco (79, 190, G, AJ Milano)
10. Poeta Giuseppe (85, 192, Pm, Bancatercas Teramo)
11. Soragna Matteo (75, 198, A, Angelico Biella)
12. Vitali Luca (86, 201, Pm, AJ Milano)

Crosariol is injured and was replaced bu Cusin while Hackett is out as well (probably because we don't need his difense since Parker won't play, and he's not in great shape)...

I don't agree with Recalcati about Aradori sent home... apart Belinelli, we don't have another perimeter player so talented among the guards and small forwards.
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Damn you don't have center at all

Toxicity
08-04-2009, 02:52 PM
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Damn you don't have center at all

We lack a pure center since Dino Meneghin, yeah... :D

Seriously, Recalcati already stated we're going to play with Bargnani in the 5 position for almost all the time so it's not a big miss... Raptors will be happy, i think.

Srle
08-04-2009, 02:58 PM
How about that kid that played for Italian youth national teams born in 1987 he's 217 cm tall. I know his stats weren't that impressive on those championships. But he is a big kid. Did he make any progress at all????

Toxicity
08-04-2009, 03:34 PM
How about that kid that played for Italian youth national teams born in 1987 he's 217 cm tall. I know his stats weren't that impressive on those championships. But he is a big kid. Did he make any progress at all????

Gino Cuccarolo?!? :D

220cm wasted at this point... :rolleyes:

Our big men situation is not that bright to be honest... the only center with some potential physically is Crosariol but his head is not always connected to say the least. ;)

Cusin also is not bad athletically but lacks experience at this point (already 24 y old)... this year he'll play his first season as starter in the Legauno.

Among youngers we have few names... Renzi (1989) is good but probably is more a PF than a C. Eventually a finesse C...

We have some names born in 1991 or later but it's early to say where they can go...

In this context we are forced to put Bargnani as center, because he has at least the basketball talent... but we know he's not a center by any mean, height and size apart.

ınvnceable
08-05-2009, 11:26 AM
can we watch italy-france game on the ınternet?

Toxicity
08-05-2009, 12:19 PM
can we watch italy-france game on the ınternet?
There's the Raisport Più streaming (http://www.raisport.rai.it/dl/raisport/multimedia/diretta.html?cid=ContentItem-18b9bd8c-1ab9-44e8-a684-fd3430493964) but it should be only available for italian users...

Maybe the game on sat (Raisport Più is a free channel on sat too) isn't crypted who knows...

penzias
08-29-2009, 10:38 PM
So.....who'll be the new coach? :rolleyes:
2nd coming of Messina maybe?

Toxicity
08-31-2009, 03:54 PM
So.....who'll be the new coach? :rolleyes:
2nd coming of Messina maybe?

Messina? A damn ACB rule should not allow that for coaches of the spanish teams... even if Spain NT itself has a part-time coach!!! :rolleyes:

I think the main candidate is Pianigiani from MPS Siena (as part-time coach as well)... but there's also the chance our federation keeps Recalcati!!! :eek: :mad:

JoRandazzo
10-04-2009, 03:56 PM
The last results of our NT are bad and Italy will miss the next world cup but we have a lot of talented players in NBA and in Europe. During the past year, several italo-american players have shown great talent in high-school competition and they are among the best 100 players in their year class in USA.
That's why I think that players like Brandon Cataldo, Ben Vozzola, Alex Rossi,
Chad Calcaterra and Mike Marciano could help Bargnani, Gallinari and Belinelli in the future.

Cataldo (6'10 270) is a very strong center and as I know Italy don't have any solid center actually. Calcaterra and Marciano are also 6'10 tall. While Vozzola and Rossi are both shooting-guards.

Toxicity
10-04-2009, 09:19 PM
The last results of our NT are bad and Italy will miss the next world cup but we have a lot of talented players in NBA and in Europe. During the past year, several italo-american players have shown great talent in high-school competition and they are among the best 100 players in their year class in USA.
That's why I think that players like Brandon Cataldo, Ben Vozzola, Alex Rossi,
Chad Calcaterra and Mike Marciano could help Bargnani, Gallinari and Belinelli in the future.

Cataldo (6'10 270) is a very strong center and as I know Italy don't have any solid center actually. Calcaterra and Marciano are also 6'10 tall. While Vozzola and Rossi are both shooting-guards.

Never heard of them... who are they???

And are you sure they would opt for the italian NT? They feel more american than italian i believe...

AlbionGate
10-05-2009, 09:33 AM
Never heard of them... who are they???

And are you sure they would opt for the italian NT? They feel more american than italian i believe...

Alex Rossi is one of the best high school player in Chicago. I know it because I read a lot about him when I was looking for news about Alex Dragicevich, who is also one of the best player in the area. Both will be high school senior next year and will play in NCAA next season.

ArkadiosV2
11-20-2009, 01:40 PM
Recalcati Italian NT coach no more (http://www.talkbasket.net/news/recalcati-italian-nt-coach-no-more-2517.html)

The three candidates to replace him: Paningiani, Sacripanti and Repesa.

Alyosha12
11-20-2009, 03:26 PM
Recalcati Italian NT coach no more (http://www.talkbasket.net/news/recalcati-italian-nt-coach-no-more-2517.html)

The three candidates to replace him: Paningiani, Sacripanti and Repesa.

They should take Paningiani IMO.

rikhardur
11-20-2009, 04:21 PM
Recalcati Italian NT coach no more (http://www.talkbasket.net/news/recalcati-italian-nt-coach-no-more-2517.html)

The three candidates to replace him: Paningiani, Sacripanti and Repesa.
At last... Anyone is better than Recalcati at this point.

Toxicity
11-20-2009, 10:29 PM
Recalcati Italian NT coach no more (http://www.talkbasket.net/news/recalcati-italian-nt-coach-no-more-2517.html)

The three candidates to replace him: Paningiani, Sacripanti and Repesa.

Well, it's never too late... i'm happy Recalcati is not our coach anymore. :cool:

Regarding the three coach race, i'd go with Pianigiani because he has shown a system in Siena and we need a system for the NT. Moreover his situation resembles that of Ettore Messina when became the italian coach in 1993 (young coach rising)...

But also Sacripanti and Repesa are good choices. The first knows well the italian basketball since he's also the coach of the U20 NT (and won a bronze two years ago at Euros) and he's doing a nice job in Caserta... Repesa doesn't need presentation: he's a master at working with young players and we have a lot of that in our NT future...

Definitely an upgrade over Carlo Recalcati. But i could be an upgrade too... :D

Franz
11-20-2009, 10:48 PM
A good rebuilding point for Italy.

With a new coach along with their youth (Rullo, Melli, ect.) and known players (Bargnani, Gallinari, ect), I see good future for Italy national team.

Big shame not to have such a nation active in basketball.

lucasscott
11-21-2009, 03:51 PM
Bye Bye Recalcati (http://basketcentral.it/news/it/8435/nazionali/ufficiale_recalcati_lascia.html)....

Picek
11-22-2009, 12:32 PM
Bye Bye Recalcati (http://basketcentral.it/news/it/8435/nazionali/ufficiale_recalcati_lascia.html)....few years too late, but better late then never..

Toxicity
11-22-2009, 02:34 PM
few years too late, but better late then never..

Yeah. He should have resigned (or sent home by federation) after the poor 2005 Euro or right after 2006 WC...

rikhardur
11-23-2009, 05:35 PM
Italy Timescale On New Coach

Italy will have a new coach within the two weeks, the country's basketball federation president Dino Meneghin has revealed.

The federation announced over the weekend that Recalcati was no longer in charge of the team, a side he had coached for eight years.

"In the next two weeks we will decide the new coach of the Italian national team, who will take the role as permanent coach," Meneghin said.

Recalcati had served as Italy coach while leading club side Montepaschi Siena from 2003-06 and it was during that time that he had great success with the Azzurri.

The Italians captured a bronze medal at EuroBasket 2003 and silver the following year at the Olympics in Greece.

After leaving Siena, Recalcati took the Italy coaching post on a full-time basis.

Poland and Croatia are also searching for new coaches.

Muli Katzurin departed from his post with the Poles after the EuroBasket and Repesa recently decided to leave the Croatians.

Repesa, in fact, was a huge hit in Italy with Fortitudo Bologna, where he coached Italy's Marco Belinelli.

He also coached at Lottomatica Roma.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_pzvg5veYGGMLX5AWWB6oY0.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

Picek
11-24-2009, 07:47 AM
Pianigiani, Sacripanti and Repeša are one of the candidates for the job..
according to the italian/croatian press..

rikhardur
12-03-2009, 09:49 PM
ITA – Bargnani says youth is on Italy’s side

TORONTO (2010 FIBA World Championship) – The 2010 FIBA World Championship will be missing one of Europe’s most famous national teams with Italy forced to play the role of spectator this time.

The Italians didn't reach Turkey after failing to even make it to the EuroBasket in Poland, which was the qualifying event for next year’s big tournament.

Now only a wild card would get the Italians in.

There is hope for the future, though, according to the team’s seven-foot star Andrea Bargnani.

"Italy is not going through the best moment but we have to remember that we will have a new coach and that we have a young team," he said.

"So we have a lot of work to do to be better and to compete at the highest level."

Indeed, the country is looking to appoint a new coach as a replacement for Carlo Recalcati.

Recalcati might still be at the helm had the country's leading players been able to play in the summer of 2008.

Marco Belinelli, Bargnani and Danilo Gallinari all missed the qualifying campaign, with Gallinari out due to injury, and the Italians finished third in EuroBasket Division A, Group A, behind two teams that qualified: Serbia and Bulgaria.

This summer, Belinelli and Bargnani played in the Additional Qualifying Round but Gallinari did not after having a back operation.

The Italians still lost out to France, who took the last spot for the EuroBasket and finished fifth to qualify for the FIBA World Championship.

Bargnani has the name as the former number one draft pick in the NBA, but when it comes to Italy he has yet to make his mark.

"I play more comfortable with the Raptors than I do with Italy but I love to play for both," Bargnani said, before emphasizing: "To play with the national team is special."

Bargnani and Belinelli now play together in Toronto following the latter's trade to the team in the summer from Golden State.

Bargnani admits he has benefitted from the transaction both on and off the court.

"My best friend at the Raptors is Marco Belinelli, because he is Italian and I can speak to him in our language," Bargnani said.

"We get on really well."

The future really is bright for Italy and Bargnani.

Because of his size, and his ability to shoot the ball from long range, Bargnani has been likened to Germany's Dirk Nowitzki, a former NBA MVP.

That comparison is fine with the 24-year-old Bargnani.

"For me it's not an added weight to be compared to Nowitzki," he said.

"On the contrary, it's an honor.

"I feel proud because he is a great player but I think my way of playing is very different from his."
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/37652/arti.html

rikhardur
12-19-2009, 03:39 PM
Pianigiani Confirmed As New Italy Coach

Italy have appointed Montepaschi Siena boss Simone Pianigiani as the new coach of the national team.

Pianigiani, who has led Montepaschi to the last three Lega A titles and also turned the club into a powerhouse in Europe, will be unveiled to the media on Tuesday.

The 40-year-old has replaced his former boss at the Siena club, Carlo Recalcati, as the Azzurri coach.

Recalcati recently ended his eight-year reign with the national side.

A statement from the FIP read: "Pianigiani is the new head coach of the national team. FIP President Dino Meneghin will present Pianigiani as the new coach of the national team on Tuesday, December 22."

Pianigiani has reportedly signed a two-year contract extension and will combine his role with that of head coach of Montepaschi Siena.

He will attempt to steer the Italians into EuroBasket 2011.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_t1S85IqLHTsz93ygjsmdd3.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html


They couldn't have chosen someone better at this time.

Franz
12-19-2009, 03:44 PM
Can someone explain to me if this is good or bad for Italy? I don't know much about Italian league.

rikhardur
12-19-2009, 04:06 PM
Can someone explain to me if this is good or bad for Italy? I don't know much about Italian league.
Excellent choice. Pianigiani's achievements: 3 titles, 1 cup, 3 super cups, win ratio of 92.8 per cent... And he's just 40.

robbe
12-19-2009, 04:12 PM
Can someone explain to me if this is good or bad for Italy? I don't know much about Italian league.
Well, Pianigiani has continuously been doing magnificent work in Siena, establishing Montepaschi as a - imo - Top5 club in Europe. With a very fast, athletic, and defensively strong roster.

I'm not sold regarding Italy's roster quality though, even if everyone shows up. The team that peaked in the '04 Olympics was very good defensively (for example, Bulleri-Basile-Soragna-Galanda-Marconato was a great defensive lineup), hard-working and intelligent (plus deadly from three point range), today's key players (Belinelli, Bargnani, Gallinari, soon Aradori) are all talented and versatile, but nobody would ever connect them to the words "defense" and "toughness". Everybody has been blaming the coach, but now that the new one is proven on club level and well-respected, I guess the players are under a lot of pressure to show something.

Toxicity
12-20-2009, 03:29 PM
Well, Pianigiani has continuously been doing magnificent work in Siena, establishing Montepaschi as a - imo - Top5 club in Europe. With a very fast, athletic, and defensively strong roster.

I'm not sold regarding Italy's roster quality though, even if everyone shows up. The team that peaked in the '04 Olympics was very good defensively (for example, Bulleri-Basile-Soragna-Galanda-Marconato was a great defensive lineup), hard-working and intelligent (plus deadly from three point range), today's key players (Belinelli, Bargnani, Gallinari, soon Aradori) are all talented and versatile, but nobody would ever connect them to the words "defense" and "toughness". Everybody has been blaming the coach, but now that the new one is proven on club level and well-respected, I guess the players are under a lot of pressure to show something.

Well, Gallinari and Aradori are tough for sure... yeah, they're not great defenders like the players in the recent past but they're also much more talented. So we have to play in a different way... we should be happy to see some real talent afterall!

rikhardur
01-14-2010, 02:25 PM
Bargnani Positive After Pianigiani Appointment

Italy's seven-foot center Andrea Bargnani is optimistic about the future of the national team following the appointment of Simone Pianigiani as coach.

Bargnani played for Carlo Recalcati two of the past three summers when Italy fell short of expectations.

He's hopeful that Pianigiani will turn the Azzurri back into a winning team.

"I don't know Pianigiani," Bargnani said.

"I don't think I have ever spoken to him. I know, however, that he does an incredible job at (Montepaschi) Siena, he is objective, and the results prove that.

"Let's hope that in the national team he brings experience and the same results as at Siena."

Italy will this weekend discover which teams they are going to face in qualifying for EuroBasket 2011 in Lithuania.

The hope is that Bargnani, Marco Belinelli and Danilo Gallinari will all play this year.

Injuries prevented Gallinari from joining up with the Italians the past three summers but he is having a good season with the New York Knicks and wants to play for the national side.

"I don't think in the national team we are missing a given player," Bargnani said. "You don't resolve anything by getting one particular player.

"Each team has its weaknesses. We have a good group but we lack being a true team."
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_9kdec5IwGq6BoHQLk10Nd3.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

rikhardur
02-01-2010, 10:36 PM
ITA – Meneghin keeps the lines of communication open with Italy’s NBA players and their clubs

ROME (EuroBasket 2011) – Nothing will come easy for Italy later this year when they attempt to qualify for EuroBasket 2011.

With games coming up against Latvia, Israel, Finland and newly-promoted Montenegro in EuroBasket Division A, new Italy coach Simone Pianigiani will have his hands full.

It will make it easier if the team’s three most high-profile players, Andrea Bargnani and Marco Belinelli of the Toronto Raptors and New York Knicks ace Danilo Gallinari, are able to play.

Italian Basketball Federation president Dino Meneghin, a former national team star himself, has returned from New York where he just held meetings with the players.

"We have not gone into depth regarding our summer program with them,” Meneghin said.

“I have only told them what the intentions of the Federation are with respect to the logistics of the next qualifying phase that will see us involved in August.

"I have not received any answers, whether positive or negative, because I didn't ask. This wasn't the aim of my trip.

"The players were interested and have asked for information about the technical staff and the dates and venues of the games.”

What is obvious to Meneghin and any other federation presidents outside North America that has players in the NBA is that there needs to be good communication.

"From now on, the relationship between the FIP and the three NBA players will be more frequent,” Meneghin said.

“At this point of the season, it would not have been fair to force them to give me an answer but I am optimistic because in recent days, I have been able to speak directly to the Toronto and New York executives and I have reiterated the importance of us having Bargnani, Belinelli and Gallinari next summer.

"We face a very difficult qualifying round and with the three of them on the court, it will be less challenging."
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/38310/arti.html

c_d
03-15-2010, 05:30 PM
PLANNING FOR ITALY BUT NO COMMITMENTS FROM NBA TRIO

// 15 March 2010
Italy are making sure they give themselves every chance of qualifying for next year's EuroBasket in Lithuania with solid organization, according to new coach Simone Pianigiani.

But the Azzurri have yet to announce with 100% certainty that Danilo Gallinari, Andrea Bargnani and Marco Belinelli will represent the country in the qualifying games.

"Since my unveiling in December," Pianigiani said, "we have created a high level team staff in order to optimize each detail and to especially be able to be immediately effective when the important weeks come along.

"With regards to the three players in the NBA, we have two certainties: The first is that the FIP (Italian Basketball Federation) is doing all it can to have them available, considering their duties and responsibilities in their respective clubs.

"The second is that all of them have always shown from a young age their commitment to the Azzurri colors. This is a good starting point. "

Bargnani and Belinelli play for the Toronto Raptors while Gallinari is on the books of the New York Knicks.

Italy will compete in Division A, Group A against Finland, Israel, Latvia and Montenegro.

Pianigiani, the coach of Italian league leaders Montepaschi Siena, replaced Carlo Recalcati as national team boss at the end of 2009.

He will be with Italy when they begin training in Bormio on June 29.

Failure to reach last year's EuroBasket in Poland was a huge disappointment for a country that is accustomed to challenging for medals.

The Italians won the European title in 1999, snatched bronze four years later and captured Olympic silver in 2004.

Italy Basketball Federation president Dino Meneghin: "It's going to be a dense and intense season. We are in need of results."
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_xl0Lwz9wJgcM,ZpUi11dl1.container_frontpage.ar ticleMode_on.html

c_d
04-13-2010, 02:19 PM
ITALIANS OPT FOR BARI 'WARMTH AND PASSION'

// 13 April 2010
Italy have decided to play all of their home qualifying games for EuroBasket 2011 in the city of Bari.

The Azzurri, who failed to reach last year's Final Round in Poland, will take on Finland, Latvia, Montenegro and Israel in Group A.

Italy Basketball Federation president Dino Meneghin says Bari is the perfect site.

"We needed a place that offered the best and that would guarantee us having a great arena, an airport and an organization that would give the staff and the players the possibility to work at their best as well as make them feel at home," he said.

"To play all the games in the same venue, the same floor and stay in the same place for the entire qualifying campaign is crucial.

"We have chosen not to move around but instead to feel the warmth and passion of the Bari and Puglia fans."

The Italians will not know the make-up of their squad for several weeks, with no word yet on the availability of New York Knicks star Danilo Gallinari, or Toronto pair Andrea Bargnani and Marco Belinelli.

But there is one certainty.

The team will have plenty of youth.

Italy coach Simone Pianigiani, who is the boss of runaway Lega A leaders Montepaschi Siena, said: "We will come to Bari with a group of young players that have to be hungry to find an important space at European level."

Pianigiani believes Bari is the perfect venue for the Azzurri.

"We will have the enthusiasm of a region that will support us from the first to the last game," he said.

"I don't know whether we will win from the start but this is our main aim.

"Victories are important just as reaching our aim to qualify for the next EuroBasket.

"We go into the qualifying to enhance the level of our basketball and regain a new lease of life for a movement of the national team. "
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_mDt-ey3uHKgp83L5h3bqS1.container_frontpage.articleMode _on.html

rikhardur
04-30-2010, 01:36 PM
All Systems Go For Bargnani

Italy will have at least one of their ‘big three' in the squad this summer with Toronto Raptors big man Andrea Bargnani confirming his presence at EuroBasket qualifying games.

The seven-footer held a press conference in Roma on Friday to announce he will be with the Azzurri when they take on Latvia, Israel, Montenegro and Finland in a Division A ‘group of death'.

Sitting alongside Italian Basketball Federation president Dino Meneghin, Bargnani said: "My decision has been spontaneous at a time when Italian basketball is going through a period of an ugly crisis.

"It's right that this new cycle brings the Azzurri back to the level it merits.

"We are going through a difficult time and I feel that responsibility but there's also the willingness to return to enjoy myself having an important role at international level."

Bargnani played last summer when the Italians lost out to France in the Additional Qualifying Round for EuroBasket 2009 in Poland.

He said there was never any doubt about his playing this time.

"I didn't need to be convinced by Dino Meneghin or by coach Simone Pianigiani," he said.

As far as the intentions of his Toronto teammate, Marco Belinelli, Bargnani said: "Belinelli? I cannot speak for him, but I obviously hope that he also returns to the national team."

The other player in the NBA Italy would like to have in tow is Danilo Gallinari of the New York Knicks.

Injuries have kept him out of action for the Italians dating back to EuroBasket 2007 in Spain - the last time the Azzurri made it to an important international tournament.

Italy will play eight games in three weeks as they attempt to reach EuroBasket 2011 in Lithuania.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_KXDE4XqsJnIs6QertapSL2.articleMode_on.contain er_frontpage.html

l'emigrante
05-04-2010, 02:51 PM
Gallinari said NO to Italian NT

rikhardur
05-12-2010, 04:59 PM
ITA – Belinelli gives thumbs-up to Italy

ROME (EuroBaskett 2011) - Marco Belinelli announced on Wednesday that he’ll wear the Italian shirt with pride as always when they attempt to qualify for EuroBasket 2011.

The Italians face an daunting task this summer with Division A, Group A games against Latvia, Israel, Finland and a team that many believe to be the emerging powerhouse on the continent, Montenegro.

Toronto Raptors shooting guard Belinelli, who just wrapped up his third and most productive campaign in the NBA, confirmed his presence in the Italian squad at Italy’s Olympic headquarters in Rome.

"There's little to say,” Belinelli said.

“I was the first to say yes to the national team and I will do everything possible to help Italy get back to high levels."

Belinelli joins his Toronto Raptors teammate Andrea Bargnani in Italy’s set-up.

Italian basketball fans will also be hoping that Danilo Gallinari of the New York Knicks is able to play this summer.

Injuries have prevented Gallinari from wearing the Italian shirt the past three years.

Under new national team boss Simone Pianigiani, who is currently coaching Montepaschi Siena in Italy’s top flight, Belinelli will try to help fire the Azzurri to a high enough finish that qualifies the country for next year’s EuroBasket in Lithuania.

If they make it to Lithuania, they will have a chance to book a trip to the 2012 Olympics in London.

Italy won the silver medal at the 2004 Olympics and competed at the 2006 FIBA World Championship and EuroBasket 2007 in Spain.

They missed out, however, on the 2008 Beijing Games and last year’s EuroBasket in Poland.

Italy Basketball Federation president Dino Meneghin and Giovanni Petrucci, the president of CONI (Italian Olympic Committee), sat alongside Belinelli at Wednesday’s news conference.

"I am happy to present Marco Belinelli in the Azzurri,” Meneghin said.

"When we spoke during the year, I never had any doubts and once his season in the NBA was over, he immediately responded positively.

"A thank you to Marco, who gives up his holidays because he knows that the most important team is the national team.

“He is not here to be the top star but to give his precious contribution to the team."

Belinelli, 24, averaged 7.1 points in 17 minutes per game for Toronto this season - his first with the Canadian team after spending his first two years in the NBA with Golden State.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/39934/arti.html

Straight forward
05-18-2010, 11:23 AM
Gallinari said NO to Italian NT

Damn...Italy needs the best players to get back on track, unfortunately all 3 best layers playing for NBA. I thought that NBA already is about to be more open for international games, but it seems that most of NBA clubs owners don't care about it at all. Stern was about to announce that NBA teams should allow their players to NT, and FIBA rule changes have something to do with that (de facto). Seems like nothing is working out so far...

I can only wish the balls of Dirk, Kirilenko and Garbajosa for international players.

mbenga
05-18-2010, 02:27 PM
I got your point but i wouldn't call what Garbajosa did in 2007 having balls but being stupid.

Toxicity
06-06-2010, 09:14 PM
I somewhat agree with you guys but if a national team like Italy needs his best player to just qualify for the euro championship... i wouldn't know what to say. :rolleyes:

BTW i prefer Danilo will rest and take care of his body this year after the surgery and the long season with NY... starting from next year he'll play with Italian team and we'll be happy. :)

c_d
06-22-2010, 02:08 PM
ITALY ANNOUNCE PRELIMINARY SQUAD
// 22.06.2010

Simone Pianigiani has named an 18-man preliminary squad for the EuroBasket 2011 qualifying campaign.

The team will begin its workouts in Bormio from June 29 to July 6 and will then, from July 7-11, take part in the Torneo Internazionale "Memorial Diego Gianatti".

Former Italy international Riccardo Pittis is now the team manager of the national side.

The Italians will face Israel, Latvia, Finland and Montenegro in EuroBasket Division A, Group A.

Italy's 18-man squad: Pietro Aradori, Andrea Bargnani, Marco Belinelli, Marco Carraretto, Daniele Cavaliero, Andrea Crosariol, Marco Cusin, Luigi Datome, Jacopo Giachetti, Angelo Gigli, Luca Lechthaler, Antonio Maestranzi, Stefano Mancinelli, Marco Mordente, Giuseppe Poeta, Luca Vitali, Andrea Cinciarini and Andrea Renzi.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_FalyfbivHMwBZ0zWaNl013.articleMode_on.html

Toxicity
06-22-2010, 10:11 PM
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_FalyfbivHMwBZ0zWaNl013.articleMode_on.html

Biggest surprise: Captain Soragna is out. I'm glad...:D

Seriously, i think it's a good team. Usual weaknesses are PG and C positions... it's a pity Di Bella and Michelori (2 of the best italian players in Lega A this year with Pepsi Caserta) are not in the roster but i believe they refuse for some reason.

basketinside.com
06-23-2010, 07:28 PM
Biggest surprise: Captain Soragna is out. I'm glad...:D

Seriously, i think it's a good team. Usual weaknesses are PG and C positions... it's a pity Di Bella and Michelori (2 of the best italian players in Lega A this year with Pepsi Caserta) are not in the roster but i believe they refuse for some reason.


i think that soragna is old for national

ffalkec
07-21-2010, 03:26 PM
Does anybody know if there will be broadcasts of friendly games on raisport or some other tv channel?

Toxicity
07-21-2010, 08:52 PM
Does anybody know if there will be broadcasts of friendly games on raisport or some other tv channel?

There are just 2 friendly games left before the qualification tournament starts (24 and 25 july both against Croatia) but i doubt any italian TV will show something...

mbenga
07-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Biggest surprise: Captain Soragna is out. I'm glad...:D

Seriously, i think it's a good team. Usual weaknesses are PG and C positions... it's a pity Di Bella and Michelori (2 of the best italian players in Lega A this year with Pepsi Caserta) are not in the roster but i believe they refuse for some reason.
What about Daniel Hackett? I thought he was the great not-so-white hope for Italy in the PG position.

boyd20
03-10-2011, 02:37 PM
Here's what's going on...

POINT GUARDS
- Anthony Maestranzi (Montegranaro) 8.8 ppg, 2.6 apg, 1.1 spg, 51.4% 2p, 37.1% 3p, 96.4% ft in 26.6 minutes
- Giuseppe Poeta (Virtus Bologna) 8.9 ppg, 2.2 apg, 2.3 spg, 41.1% 2p, 33.3% 3p, 77% ft in 24.8 minutes
- Daniel Hackett (Pesaro) 14.2 ppg, 2.5 apg, 2.4 spg, 54.3% 2p, 37% 3p, 77.4% ft in 29 minutes


Andrea Cinciarini (Montegranaro) 7.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 2.2 apg, 47.6% 2p, 40.6% 3p, 67.3 ft in 22.9 minutes

SHOOTING GUARDS
- Marco Belinelli (New Orleans Hornets) 10.2 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.2 apg, 46.3% 2p, 40.4% 3p, 77.1% ft in 24.5 minutes
- Pietro Aradori (Siena) 6.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.6 apg, 64% 2p, 40.5% 3p, 75% ft in 15.2 minutes


Marco Mordente (Milano) 5.2 ppg, 1.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 47.8% 2p, 40% 3p, 54.6% ft in 17.7 minutes
Daniele Cavaliero (Montegranaro) 9.9 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 48.3% 2p, 35.9% 3p, 77.8% ft in 27.5 minutes

SMALL FORWARDS
- Marco Carraretto (Siena) 3.5 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 48% 2p, 30.6% 3p, 85% ft in 14.2 minutes
- Luigi Datome (Roma) 9.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.5 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.5 bpg, 51.5% 2p, 46.6% 3p, 93.3% ft in 21.1 minutes


Jeff Viggiano (Biella) 12.5 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.3 apg, 2.1 spg, 60.3% 2p, 31.9% 3p, 74.5% ft in 28.6 minutes

POWER FORWARDS
- Danilo Gallinari (Denver Nuggets) 16 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.7 apg, 47.7% 2p, 34.7% 3p, 89.3% ft in 32.6 minutes
- Stefano Mancinelli (Milano) 11.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 51.7% 2p, 29.6% 3p, 75.6% ft in 29 minutes
- Tomas Ress (Siena) 4.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.6 bpg, 56.4% 2p, 42.3 3p, 57.9% ft in 14.8 minutes


Luca Garri (Caserta) 7.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.4 spg, 52.9% 2p, 44.4% 3p, 69.8% ft in 17.8 minutes
Michele Antonutti (Montegranaro) 6.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 56.3% 2p, 49% 3p, 90.9% ft in 15.6 minutes

CENTERS
- Andrea Bargnani (Toronto Raptors) 22.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.8 apg, 0.7 bpg, 47.9% 2p, 33.8 % 3p, 82.6% ft in 36.2 minutes
- Andrea Crosariol (Roma) 5.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.4 bpg, 1.4 spg, 1.0 apg, 54.3% 2p, 49.1% ft in 22.4 minutes


Marco Cusin (Pesaro) 7.3 ppg, 4.4. rpg, 63.1% 2p, 76.3% ft in 20.5 minutes

rikhardur
03-12-2011, 08:19 PM
Gallinari Boost For Italy

Europe will finally see the full might of Italy this summer when the Azzurri play at the EuroBasket in Lithuania.

Italy coach Simone Pianigiani, without reservation, has said Danilo Gallinari of the Denver Nuggets will be in the line-up when his team takes on Israel, France, Latvia, Germany and Serbia in Group B, arguably the toughest of the pools in the First Round.

Gallinari hasn't been able to play for the Italy senior team because of injuries, including a back problem that was thought to be career-threatening.

Recently dealt from the New York Knicks to Denver in the big Carmelo Anthony trade, Gallinari, currently out of action with a toe problem, has enjoyed his best season in the NBA, averaging 15.9 points and 4.8 boards.

Pianigiani was asked if Gallinari will go to Lithuania and he answered: "Yes, and I am very satisfied with what our players are doing in the NBA.

"Regardless of their teams' campaigns, each of them have grown a lot."

Andrea Bargnani is averaging 22.1 points and 5.6 rebounds for the struggling Toronto Raptors while Marco Belinelli is playing a career-high 24.7 minutes per game for New Orleans, who are in the Western Conference play-off hunt.

Belinelli is averaging 10.2 points per game this season, but 14.2 in six games played in March.

Pianigiani, the coach of four-time defending Lega A champions Montepaschi Siena, will coach Italy in Sunday's All-Star Game in Milan against a Dan Peterson-led Foreigners team.

Peterson came out of retirement to coach Armani Jeans Milano in early January.

"It will be a great party," Pianigiani said.

"For the national team, it's also a way to give a chance to those that have never worn the Azzurri jersey or have not put it on for some time.

"What I am interested in is to consolidate the group spirit, the same we had in the European qualifiers."

In last year's EuroBasket qualifying campaign, Italy overcame a slow start to finish 5-3 in Group A behind Montenegro and Israel.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_89V0d1sQJ-YBOlzq8Opjm1.articleMode_on.html

boyd20
03-12-2011, 10:14 PM
Our weakest spot is PG and it is rumored our starter (Anthony Maestranzi) is injured for the season. Let's hope this ain't true, because right now there's no depth at all there.

Duncan
03-24-2011, 01:35 AM
Cinciarini has been upping his game lately, maybe he can do the job. Not really confident in Poeta or some of the others. Hackett isn't a point guard, even though I think he could do the job in a short spurt against certain teams

serbianhoops
03-29-2011, 02:53 PM
With Maestranzi out, Pianigiani can select another naturalized player. Maybe an US who plays in Lega for years or an italo-american from NCAA.

Yale junior Greg Mangano (PF 6'10) can be a good choice. He is one of the best rebounder (23rd with 10 rbs per game) and blocker (10th with 3 blks per game) in NCAA. Although in the weak IVY League, these stats shows that he is a good player. Probably not yet ready to be efficient at the Eurobasket level, but Italy should keep an eye on him.

boyd20
03-29-2011, 04:23 PM
Cinciarini has been upping his game lately, maybe he can do the job. Not really confident in Poeta or some of the others. Hackett isn't a point guard, even though I think he could do the job in a short spurt against certain teams
Totally agree.
Cinciarini is more of a project, since he's a SG who's been running the point due to Maestranzi injury and he's still learning the job. Good and versatile player, I guess he'll be part of the NT but not for the European Championships. He's still young, there's time to let him develop.
Now that Shammond Williams joined Montegranaro I guess Cincia will be back at SG for most of the time.

I don't like Poeta that much and he's not been able to play at the same level of 2008-2009 season. Anyway, he could be useful as a backup as he's complementary to Maestranzi.
The fact is that they both are injured right now.

Daniel Hackett is probably the most improved Italian player. He's a slasher, can play both PG and SG, he's improving his shooting from outside, though he's still somewhat streaky and he also still needs to learn how to stay cool and focused.


With Maestranzi out, Pianigiani can select another naturalized player. Maybe an US who plays in Lega for years or an italo-american from NCAA.

Yale junior Greg Mangano (PF 6'10) can be a good choice. He is one of the best rebounder (23rd with 10 rbs per game) and blocker (10th with 3 blks per game) in NCAA. Although in the weak IVY League, these stats shows that he is a good player. Probably not yet ready to be efficient at the Eurobasket level, but Italy should keep an eye on him.

If injuries will keep Maestranzi out, I think Jeff Viggiano will be the main candidate as naturalized. I'm not really a fan, but he would bring in some useful things (he's a terrific athlete).
It's rumored Travis Diener may be getting an Italian passport being married to an Italian woman. It would be great to have him as our starting PG, but I believe it will be a quite long process, so...

Another player who's getting an Italian passport but won't be part of the NT is undersized SG Jarrius Jackson (Veroli; LegaDue), who's having a breakout season (20.3 ppg, 2 apg, 57% 2p, 46% 3p, 89% ft) and could be targeted by important teams.

Toxicity
03-29-2011, 10:02 PM
Cinciarini is a PG with a body of a SG (but he always played the point) so he's not a project in that sense...

rikhardur
03-30-2011, 08:55 PM
Bargnani Ready To Pull Off Magic Trick

Count me in, says Andrea Bargnani.

Italy's talisman will be headed back to Europe this summer, not just for a much-needed vacation but also to once more serve as the focal point of his national team.

"It's in my plans," confirms the Toronto Raptors centre.

"If everything is OK with the team and my body, I'll be in Lithuania."

The availability of ‘Il Mago' (The Magician) for Eurobasket 2011 is a welcome tonic for the plans of Italy head coach Simone Pianigiani.

Third in their qualifying group last summer behind Montenegro and Israel despite the scoring of their NBA star, Italy were among the most relieved nations after FIBA Europe extended its invite list from 16 to 24 teams.

The Azzurri were absent from Poland two years ago, after losing to France twice in the Additional Qualifying Round.

Now the path is clear for Bargnani to appear in a major championship for the second time, after EuroBasket 2007.

However it is not the possibility of a European title which is his major obsession. It is the potential, en route, to secure one of the two free passes to next year's Olympic Games in London.

"It would be amazing," the Roman declares.

"To play in an Olympics would be incredible. That's the main reason I want to play for the national team this summer, to play in an Olympics. It's a dream of mine. It's something I've not had the chance to experience before. And I want to make 2012 my first time."

The Italians have ample strength as they look ahead to an initial group which includes their old friends Israel and France, as well as Latvia, Germany and the powerful Serbia.

His former Toronto team-mate Marco Belinelli is a relative veteran of the international game and, despite inconsistencies, has held onto a starting role in the backcourt of the New Orleans Hornets this season.

Meanwhile Danilo Gallinari has settled into life in Denver after arriving from the New York Knicks.

"We've always had great talent," Bargnani states.

"We just have to play well as a team.

"In the EuroBasket, it doesn't matter how many NBA players you have. The important thing is to play together and hit a peak. It is always so competitive now at Eurobasket."

Bargnani knows Italian eyes will be on him. The 2.13m star is 25 years old now and with five years of experience at the highest level of club basketball.

In Toronto, they have relied on him more this season since the departure of Chris Bosh. The number one pick of the 2006 NBA Draft has been asked to carry more of a load than ever before.

"There has been more focus on me," he admits. "People expect more. You have to keep getting better."

Italy will have high expectations from him also.

Last summer, he led his side in scoring in every game, finishing second only to Bo McCalebb of F.Y.R of Macedonia in the overall qualifying charts.

Without his contribution, he knows it will be hard for Pianigiani's men to imagine progress into the second round, let alone an Olympic challenge.

"It's a good kind of pressure," he smiles.

"I'm used to having that in Toronto. I've been in the NBA for five years now. Ever since I was the number one draft pick, I've had that pressure."

In March, he made a brief trip back across the Atlantic to play at the venue where his ultimate dreams might be realised.

The Raptors were taking part in the NBA's first-ever regular season games in Europe. They lost twice to the New Jersey Nets, despite the Italian's weighty individual contribution.

"It was great to be part of history," he confirms.

"It was fun and a great experience. My mother, my father and a few friends from Italy were there. It was great to be able to be in front of them."

There is, of course, the possibility that he might play more frequently in Europe next season if the NBA pursues a lock-out.

Bargnani was named Euroleague's best young player in 2006 while with Benetton Treviso, before seeking fame and fortune in North America. Would he consider returning if the Raptors are sent into hibernation?

"I don't know," he admits.

"It's a tough call. I have a long contract so I'm not even sure that I can."

Italy will pray that the lockout will not affect his summer itinerary. The Azzurri are out to conjure up a surprise.

For that, they will need their magician.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_BZKOiU0-Gh-V5zBYGP4YY0.articleMode_on.html

Duncan
04-10-2011, 07:16 AM
Yeah, I think Viggiano might be getting that spot. He is a good athlete, but not exactly what la Nazionale need at the moment. I think Piangiani will give Tony every chance to get back and prove himself, but Cinci will be in his plans as well.

I am just wondering who the best starting 5 would be? Bargnani, Gallo, Mancinelli, Belinelli, Maesto could be it, but who is going to do the dirty work? And Il Mago is not exactly a rebounding demon.

Someone like Stonerook would be perfect in that role, but he won't play for Italia.

boyd20
04-11-2011, 09:01 PM
Yeah, I think Viggiano might be getting that spot. He is a good athlete, but not exactly what la Nazionale need at the moment. I think Piangiani will give Tony every chance to get back and prove himself, but Cinci will be in his plans as well.

I am just wondering who the best starting 5 would be? Bargnani, Gallo, Mancinelli, Belinelli, Maesto could be it, but who is going to do the dirty work? And Il Mago is not exactly a rebounding demon.

Someone like Stonerook would be perfect in that role, but he won't play for Italia.

Forget about Stonerook, he never played for Italy and never will.
I'm quite sure too Pianigiani will try to have Maestranzi, he will give up only in case he'll still be injured.
I think the best starting five could be something like this:

Mastranzi - Belinelli - Carraretto - Gallinari - Bargnani

Carraretto is not young (1977), but he's a very solid role player, a shooter and defensive specialist, he would fit perfectly in that team, and note that he's a veteran in Siena, playing for Pianigiani, who trusts him a lot.

Toxicity
04-11-2011, 10:06 PM
That starting five is very likely (knowing Pianigiani)... but i think it's very weak at rebounding... the only guy who can grab some boards would be Gallo!

Datome is playing great lately (and taking down a nice number of rebs)... maybe he could be the starting SF. He's an excellent shooter and athlete but not a great defender like Carraretto...

Or maybe Gallinari switches into the SF position and Gigli (or another big) takes the PF spot...

Another player who is doing great things this season is Daniel Hackett... yesterday was the top scorer against Pianigiani's MPS Siena and only the fouls prevented him to be the hero for Pesaro. I think he could be useful in the NT given his size (rebounds+difense) and slashing abilities at the PG position...

Duncan
04-11-2011, 11:39 PM
Hackett, if he can do that consistently, will be a big asset. I really think though, that since Bargnani is such a poor rebounder for his size, the other forward with Gallo will need to play defence and get plenty of boards and do the dirty work. Who will that be? I hope Simone knows.... Maybe, like it was said, Datome could be one to watch.

OR, depending on who the match up is with, Gallo at Power forward and Hackett and small forward? Hmmmmm

Toxicity
04-15-2011, 06:46 PM
Italian NT gathering on April 18-19th

1. Antonutti Michele
2. Aradori Pietro
3. Carraretto Marco
4. Cavaliero Daniele
5. Chessa Massimo
6. Cinciarini Andrea
7. Crosariol Andrea
8. Cusin Marco
9. Datome Luigi
10. D’Ercole Lorenzo
11. Gentile Alessandro
12. Giachetti Jacopo
13. Gigli Angelo
14. Hackett Daniel
15. Lechthaler Luca
16. Maestranzi Antonio
17. Mancinelli Stefano
18. Melli Nicolo’
19. Moraschini Riccardo
20. Mordente Marco
21. Poeta Giuseppe
22. Renzi Andrea
23. Ress Tomas
24. Viggiano Jeffrey Donald
25. Vitali Luca


Pianigiani will probably pick the 12 men roster from this list (plus the 3 NBA players). The main absents seem to be Andrea Michelori and Fabio Di Bella (also Luca Garri won't be there).

They're not big names, but a couple of players in the weaker spots (PG and C) would be helpful...

Duncan
04-18-2011, 09:48 PM
Surprised that Di Bello is not in that list

rikhardur
05-11-2011, 10:38 PM
ITA - Bargnani puts disappointing season behind him, focuses on national team

TORONTO (NBA/EuroBasket 2011) - Andrea Bargnani is looking forward to playing for Italy at the Eurobasket following a tough club season with the Toronto Raptors.

Bargnani, the No 1 overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft, came under sharp criticism from Raptors officials after the team finished the 2010-2011 campaign with a 22-60 record.

The 25-year-old, who averaged a career-high 21.5 points per game in his fifth season, did not lose his cool and accepted his share of the blame.

"I know how to deal with critics, no problem," he said. "If they don't criticise me - the franchise player - who should be blamed?"

Bargnani has shifted his attention from club to country and is eager to play in Lithuania.

He expects this summer to mark the beginning of a new chapter in Italian basketball.

"The silver medal at 2004 Olympic Games closed an era for our national team and now we can open a new one," he said.

"We have a good group of players but we need to be humble and take it one step at a time."

The Azzurri will make their return to the biggest European basketball tournament after missing out in Poland two years ago.

They have been drawn in Group B in Siauliai and face some stiff opposition in the form of France, Germany, Israel, Latvia and Serbia.

Italy are encouraged by the fact of having their three NBA players - Bargnani, Denver Nuggets forward Danilo Gallinari and New Orleans Hornets guard Marco Belinelli - all available for the first time.

For his part, Bargnani hopes to put on a better show than at EuroBasket 2007 in Spain.

"That was my first summer with the national team and I wasn't successful," he admitted.

"It took me three years to provide a top performance in Europe."

Indeed, the Rome native did put on a show at last year's EuroBasket Qualifying Round, finishing as the top scorer by averaging 24.1 points per game, including a 34-point effort against Montenegro.

More importantly, he helped Italy book a place for EuroBasket.

With his dynamic skills and the consistency he showed last summer, Bargnani figures to lead Simone Pianigiani's side by example.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/46713/arti.html

CKR13
05-16-2011, 12:05 PM
Danilo Gallinari to Play for National Team (http://www.sportando.net/eng/usa/nba/27475/danilo_gallinari_confirmed_today_he_will_play_euro basket_with_italy.html)

Toxicity
05-16-2011, 01:35 PM
Stefano Gentile named best U22 in the LegaA league (ahead of Motiejunas)... and Daniel Hackett finished as the best scorer (and best PER) among italians.

Nice news for the italian basket.

sagenas
05-16-2011, 02:25 PM
Stefano Gentile named best U22 in the LegaA league (ahead of Motiejunas)... and Daniel Hackett finished as the best scorer (and best PER) among italians.

Nice news for the italian basket.

And what that should mean? Absolutely worthless note here.

Toxicity
05-16-2011, 02:51 PM
And what that should mean? Absolutely worthless note here.

Man, it means there are few great youngsters in our league... that's all. ;)

BTW i'd pick Motiejunas as the best U22 of our league this year and problably the most improved player (together with Hackett)...

sagenas
05-17-2011, 10:26 AM
Man, it means there are few great youngsters in our league... that's all. ;)

BTW i'd pick Motiejunas as the best U22 of our league this year and problably the most improved player (together with Hackett)...

But he's still quite younger than 22 years old players so that isn't very good comparison...when he will be 22 years old he will definitely be much better than he is now. :)

Toxicity
05-17-2011, 10:32 AM
But he's still quite younger than 22 years old players so that isn't very good comparison...when he will be 22 years old he will definitely be much better than he is now. :)

What comparison? I didn't make any bball comparison involving Motiejunas...

sagenas
05-17-2011, 07:18 PM
What comparison? I didn't make any bball comparison involving Motiejunas...

You did. When you say that someone is ahead of someone it's like you compare or just write other people's comparison of him that he is better/worse/equal to someone and etc. :)

Toxicity
05-17-2011, 07:40 PM
You did. When you say that someone is ahead of someone it's like you compare or just write other people's comparison of him that he is better/worse/equal to someone and etc. :)

Well, i just said he was selected ahead of Motiejunas (despite being 2 years younger and playing another spot) as the Best U22 of the Italian League... but i also pointed out the fact that the lithuanian deserved more that award in my opinion. ;)

ZizzitSlo
05-17-2011, 11:30 PM
I agree with Toxicity, it wouldn't be unprecedented if Motiejunas would win the award, however we don't know the cause for giving the award to Gentile. Maybe they were simply looking for an Italian player, to create a feeling there is enough young prospects in Italy nowadays. This awards are for me a bit overrated both in the States and here in Europe and serve only as a prestigious indicator of some quality, but rarely tell the whole story...

Since you are talking about Motiejunas and since today is the draft lottery day, I have to post this article (posted today on nba.com by Aldridge) regarding his abilities and flaws, which changed my perspective about him a bit, to be honest. I guess it's on topic now, since almost the whole page is about him, but splitting the topic in a new one just about Motiejunas would be appropriate, I guess.


As he has matured physically, Motiejunas' game has changed from a perimeter-based offense to include more of a low-post game, though he is by no means a finished product inside. He can score, especially on the wings, and displays point-forward skills as a passer; one personnel man compared him with former Clippers forward Danny Manning (though another personnel guy strongly disagreed with that notion). But scouts remain concerned about several aspects of his game.

"He doesn't really love basketball," a Central Division executive says. "He doesn't seem to appear to like to do anything that's even a little difficult. That scares you a little bit. The only thing he gets an excellent on is offensive rebounding and putbacks, and that's because he's doing it against midgets."

Said an Atlantic Division exec: "Right now, it's not even close. Vesely is a player and Motiejunas is an unknown. I've seen him play too many times when he would get two rebounds, three rebounds. He's projected in all these mocks to go top 10. I don't think so. I think he lacks passion for the game. He looks like he's got short arms. That might be a factor.

"He gets pushed under (the basket) a lot and then he reaches up. Guys are going up over him to get rebounds. He lacks fire, lacks emotion. Always has the same demeanor on the court. If you're 7 feet tall and you have any hope of coming over here you have to be, routinely, getting 10, 11 boards ... I can't get excited about him."

Link: http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/david_aldridge/05/02/big-board-power-forwards/index.html

sagenas
05-18-2011, 10:54 AM
Italy always has talented players, I think, but they lack feel for the game :)

What about Motiejūnas, we should move this talks to http://forums.interbasket.net/f4/motiej-363-nas-lithuanias-next-big-9131/p7.html :)

Toxicity
05-18-2011, 12:54 PM
Italy always has talented players, I think, but they lack feel for the game :)


I don't agree since for me talent is related to the feeling for the game... and Italy used to lack talent compared to east europe teams like Serbia, Lithuania, etc... we usually don't lack heart tough. ;)

Toxicity
05-28-2011, 07:26 PM
Today Dino Meneghin said there's no enough time to give Travis Diener (his wife has italian origins but has still to have the italian passport) or Matt Barnes (his mother had italian parents) an italian passport for this year so we'll talk about that in 2012 or 2013... maybe it will be too late. :rolleyes:

The others can have the Ibakas, the Cooks, the McCalebbs... we have to be satisfied with Maestranzi or Viggiano...

rikhardur
05-28-2011, 08:13 PM
The others can have the Ibakas, the Cooks, the McCalebbs... we have to be satisfied with Maestranzi or Viggiano...
Well you guys are with the rule, not with the exception, I guess that's a good thing anyway.

Toxicity
05-28-2011, 08:29 PM
Well you guys are with the rule, not with the exception, I guess that's a good thing anyway.

Yeah, but i was referring to the value of the players involved... ;)

rikhardur
05-28-2011, 08:34 PM
Yeah, but i was referring to the value of the players involved... ;)
I know, I know... The exception ends up being more beneficial than the rule. That's how basketball today is twisted regarding this matter :rolleyes:

sagenas
05-29-2011, 10:31 AM
I don't agree since for me talent is related to the feeling for the game... and Italy used to lack talent compared to east europe teams like Serbia, Lithuania, etc... we usually don't lack heart tough. ;)

But I just can't believe how in so strong league like Italian you produce only few talents. :) Too much foreigners I guess.. :) But Italian teams like Lithuanians and that's good though :D

Toxicity
05-29-2011, 01:48 PM
But I just can't believe how in so strong league like Italian you produce only few talents. :) Too much foreigners I guess.. :) But Italian teams like Lithuanians and that's good though :D

Good italians cost more than same-value ones from US or East Europe... that's why many teams prefer the latters.

And not many coaches have patience with our youngers, so in the end they are buried on bench or go on loan at lower level (ex: Legadue or 3rd league)... it's hard to find the new Gentile or Melli in this situation.

Lithuanian guys are always competitive as players (btw they're much more mature than italians @ same age) and don't cost much, that's why italian league likes them...

Dizz
06-14-2011, 09:56 AM
Who will Coach Piangiani choose for his frontcourt in addition to Bargnani. It looks like there are not a lot of players who have had great seasons and with NT experience?

I am assuming Crosariol and Ress will make it and Galllo will realistically play PF?

Toxicity
06-14-2011, 10:30 AM
Who will Coach Piangiani choose for his frontcourt in addition to Bargnani. It looks like there are not a lot of players who have had great seasons and with NT experience?

I am assuming Crosariol will make it and Galllo could realistically play PF? So who else.... :)

Gigli has Euroleague and NT experience... if he's healthy (i'm not sure since he lost almost all the season) he'll be probably the starter.

Cusin has no international experience but he's still our best athlete in the front court and he's 6-11 tall... he'll compete against Crosariol for the backup center spot.

Then we have Tomas Ress (great Euroleague experience) who can give a lot in few minutes like he does in Siena... as PF or C.

In the end both Gallinari and Mancinelli can play the PF spot in Europe with Bargnani playing the 5 position for the majority of minutes...

Italian Pride
06-27-2011, 12:53 PM
Pianigiani tomorrow will issue the 18 squad...i think that they'll be:

maestranzi-hackett-poeta-cinciarini-giacchetti
belinelli-aradori-mordente-carraretto
gallinari-datome
bargnani-mancinelli-gigli-ress
crosariol-cusin-renzi

Toxicity
06-28-2011, 11:49 AM
1. Bargnani Andrea (85, 213, A/C, Toronto Raptors)
2. Belinelli Marco (86, 196, G, New Orleans Hornets)
3. Carraretto Marco (77, 197, G, Montepaschi Siena)
4. Cavaliero Daniele (84, 188, G, Fabi Shoes Montegranaro)
5. Cinciarini Andrea (86, 192, P, Fabi Shoes Montegranaro)
6. Crosariol Andrea (84, 210, C, Lottomatica Roma)
7. Cusin Marco (85, 211, C, Scavolini Siviglia Pesaro)
8. Datome Luigi (87, 203, A, Lottomatica Roma)
9. Gallinari Danilo (88, 208, A, Denver Nuggets)
10. Giachetti Jacopo (83, 192, P, Lottomatica Roma)
11. Gigli Angelo (83, 209, A/C, Lottomatica Roma)
12. Hackett Daniel (87, 200, G, Scavolini Siviglia Pesaro)
13. Maestranzi Antonio (84, 178, P, Fabi Shoes Montegranaro)
14. Mancinelli Stefano (83, 203, A, Armani Jeans Milano)
15. Mordente Marco (79, 190, G, Armani Jeans Milano)
16. Poeta Giuseppe (85, 192, P, Canadian Solar Virtus Bologna)
17. Renzi Andrea (89, 207, A/C, Tezenis Verona)
18. Vitali Luca (86, 201, P, Lottomatica Roma

I'm surprised: Ress and especially Aradori are not in the roster... :confused:

Italian Pride
06-28-2011, 01:39 PM
I'm surprised: Ress and especially Aradori are not in the roster... :confused:

ress out for personal reasons,while aradori in according with simone out to improve his game during this summer...

the final rooster will consist of 12 or 14 players?

Toxicity
06-28-2011, 02:12 PM
ress out for personal reasons,while aradori in according with simone out to improve his game during this summer...

the final rooster will consist of 12 or 14 players?

Aradori is considered behind Belinelli, Carraretto and Mordente for the SG spot by Pianigiani so this exclusion makes sense... even if there's no other offensive guards apart Belinelli (Gentile and Aradori are both out).

The final roster should be back to 12 players.

Picek
06-28-2011, 02:31 PM
PG position thinner then ever :-/
what is going on with Hackett?

Toxicity
06-28-2011, 03:18 PM
PG position thinner then ever :-/
what is going on with Hackett?

PG position is our main problem... since Pozzecco i'd say... we have some youngsters with potential but they have way to go before being considered NT senior material...

Among the PGs in this roster i like Cinciarini who's maybe the best pure PG and he's rising even if he's not that young...

Hackett is seen more as a combo guard and i doubt he'll see many minutes as PG... in Scavolini Pesaro he played SG and SF with great results and i think Pianigiani considers him a swingman rather than a point guard. We'll see if Daniel makes the final roster and how he's used.

mattteo
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Winning 1 game would already exceed my expectations.

boyd20
06-28-2011, 06:08 PM
WTF, Mordente's still there. :mad:

Michelori would have been a very good option as a backup C, too bad he quit NT.

Toxicity
06-28-2011, 07:24 PM
WTF, Mordente's still there. :mad:

Michelori would have been a very good option as a backup C, too bad he quit NT.

Well, Mordente is the captain so there's no surprise to see him in the preliminary roster... and i fear he'll end up playing in the Euro Champs too.

Regarding Michelori, i agree with you. And also Ress would have been decent as the last big man of the NT...

boyd20
06-28-2011, 08:41 PM
Well, Mordente is the captain so there's no surprise to see him in the preliminary roster... and i fear he'll end up playing in the Euro Champs too.

Regarding Michelori, i agree with you. And also Ress would have been decent as the last big man of the NT...

Yes, definitely. Ress had a very good season, he would have been a good option off the bench.

I'm also a bit disappointed about Aradori. I liked the way he played this season, as a backup guard he could've been useful and I think he's better than Cavaliero and Mordente (I respect him but he really slipped over the last two seasons, hope I'm wrong but I think he's no more NT stuff).

In the end, I think we miss three good players (Ress, Michelori, Aradori...is it a case they all are from Siena?) and we're in a mess for the PG spot, since Maestranzi is off a bad season and was injured and the others are not so good indeed. I'm quite pessimistic, we lack depth but we have talent here and there. Cross my fingers for a good showing by our NT.

Toxicity
06-28-2011, 08:52 PM
Yes, definitely. Ress had a very good season, he would have been a good option off the bench.

I'm also a bit disappointed about Aradori. I liked the way he played this season, as a backup guard he could've been useful and I think he's better than Cavaliero and Mordente (I respect him but he really slipped over the last two seasons, hope I'm wrong but I think he's no more NT stuff).

In the end, I think we miss three good players (Ress, Michelori, Aradori...is it a case they all are from Siena?) and we're in a mess for the PG spot, since Maestranzi is off a bad season and was injured and the others are not so good indeed. I'm quite pessimistic, we lack depth but we have talent here and there. Cross my fingers for a good showing by our NT.

Pianigiani said Aradori plays in a deep spot (SG) so there wouldn't be minutes for him behind Belinelli, Carraretto and Mordente (and maybe Hackett)... i respect Simone but i doubt Aradori is worse than this Mordente. And also Carraretto, already 34 y-old, is not that good... but they have both more high level experience than Pietro so the choice is understandable. Also Alessandro Gentile could have been helpful for this team but he will play the European Championships for U20.

Regarding Michelori, unfortunately he quitted with the NT a couple of years ago. He would have been a great fit with Bargnani as hustling center.

Italian Pride
06-28-2011, 09:45 PM
about playmaker i think that andrea cinciarini could be the surprise,i hope that pianigiani give him confidence in the exibition,for me he's the best play actualli of our team....

waht do you think?

Toxicity
06-28-2011, 09:58 PM
about playmaker i think that andrea cinciarini could be the surprise,i hope that pianigiani give him confidence in the exibition,for me he's the best play actualli of our team....

waht do you think?

I like him, i think he's one of the most complete PG we have in Italy. But he's not that great of a shooter (especially from 3) so i don't know if he can work with 3 NBA players.

Maestranzi is the worst on difense but he can score from deep easily and play the pick 'n roll with Bargnani: i think Pianigiani likes him a lot for the starting spot.

Hackett would be ideal given his age and size but he's not a true PG and hasn't outside shot.

Giachetti last year did pretty well as backup. If he's healthy he'll probably be in...

Vitali, Cavaliero and Poeta... i don't consider them as legitimate options (Poeta can be useful at times but that's all).

Italian Pride
06-28-2011, 10:51 PM
I like him, i think he's one of the most complete PG we have in Italy. But he's not that great of a shooter (especially from 3) so i don't know if he can work with 3 NBA players.

Maestranzi is the worst on difense but he can score from deep easily and play the pick 'n roll with Bargnani: i think Pianigiani likes him a lot for the starting spot.

Hackett would be ideal given his age and size but he's not a true PG and hasn't outside shot.

Giachetti last year did pretty well as backup. If he's healthy he'll probably be in...

Vitali, Cavaliero and Poeta... i don't consider them as legitimate options (Poeta can be useful at times but that's all).
cinciarini isn't a great shooter,it's true,but he's a best assistman respect maestranzi IMHO and in defense is not bad...

considering hackett like a guard i think that him,poeta and vitali are the playmaker with more talent,but poeta have great phisicall limits and pianigiani dont see him very well,while vitali has more talent of poeta and cinciarini like playmaker but he's a bad defender without forgot his strange head...

TB-Fan
06-28-2011, 11:32 PM
I would play Belinelli as PG.

Duncan
06-30-2011, 03:13 AM
The best point guard Italy has, even if he is still a teenager, is Gentile. The others are quite average.

I wish he would have got picked for the National team.

Toxicity
06-30-2011, 12:14 PM
The best point guard Italy has, even if he is still a teenager, is Gentile. The others are quite average.

I wish he would have got picked for the National team.

What... you're a little bit confused man. Alessandro Gentile (great talent that probably deserved a spot in the roster) is a SG/SF and never played point guard in his career... ;)

I think at this point, even if hasn't international experience yet, the best PG in the italian roster is new Cantù acquisition Andrea Cinciarini. But i don't know if Pianigiani trusts in him 100%. Moreover the starting PG will likely be Antonio Maestranzi who was also the starting 1 for italian nt the past summer...

Xristos
06-30-2011, 02:48 PM
What... you're a little bit confused man. Alessandro Gentile (great talent that probably deserved a spot in the roster) is a SG/SF and never played point guard in his career... ;)

I think at this point, even if hasn't international experience yet, the best PG in the italian roster is new Cantù acquisition Andrea Cinciarini. But i don't know if Pianigiani trusts in him 100%. Moreover the starting PG will likely be Antonio Maestranzi who was also the starting 1 for italian nt the past summer...


Do you think Dan Hackett will see time at PG?

Toxicity
06-30-2011, 03:11 PM
Do you think Dan Hackett will see time at PG?

Well, Hackett is the most enigmatic player on the roster... for sure he can play 3 spots from PG to SF but in Pesaro this year (by far his best year of his career) played a lot as SG or SF and not so much times as PG... so he has shown to be much more reliable as SG/SF right now. And Pianigiani maybe sees things the same way and won't use him so much at the 1 spot.

But we'll see better once the preparation games start.

Duncan
07-01-2011, 12:26 AM
my bad, I was under the impression Gentile was also used at point. In that case, I would go for Cinciarini. I just don't think Maestranzi offers enough all around to beat the big teams of Europe

Toxicity
07-01-2011, 12:09 PM
I just don't think Maestranzi offers enough all around to beat the big teams of Europe

Yeah, Maestranzi is a "tax" on difense since he's unable to defend against many opponents (he's just 5-11 and weak body)... but he can play the pick n'roll with Bargnani and make the 3s if open. That's why Pianigiani likes him.

Dizz
07-20-2011, 07:23 AM
So with Gigli and Crosariol now looking like they won't make it - what is the latest thinking on the players now in the mix to make the final cut?

Xristos
07-20-2011, 07:30 AM
So with Gigli and Crosariol now looking like they won't make it - what is the latest thinking on the players now in the mix to make the final cut?

I guess Crosiarol's replacement will be Marco Cusin or Renzi

For Gigli, maybe Melli

Toxicity
07-20-2011, 12:16 PM
So with Gigli and Crosariol now looking like they won't make it - what is the latest thinking on the players now in the mix to make the final cut?

Well, Pianigiani said Italy roster will likely remain the same (playing especially small ball)... but i think Ress or Melli could be called to replace the two bigs in the next couple of weeks. Anyway it's true that the natural replacement for Crosariol is Cusin.

Toxicity
07-29-2011, 10:11 AM
Well, Pianigiani said Italy roster will likely remain the same (playing especially small ball)... but i think Ress or Melli could be called to replace the two bigs in the next couple of weeks. Anyway it's true that the natural replacement for Crosariol is Cusin.

Nicolò Melli has been called by Pianigiani: he'll be in the Rome NT training camp next tuesday.

I don't know if he has some chances to make the final roster but i think this camp will be useful for him and for the coach who can evaluate him among the other bigs.

Italian Pride
07-29-2011, 10:43 AM
Nicolò Melli has been called by Pianigiani: he'll be in the Rome NT training camp next tuesday.

I don't know if he has some chances to make the final roster but i think this camp will be useful for him and for the coach who can evaluate him among the other bigs.

good news IMHO,i'm very happy to see nicolò in th NT,i think he could show finally his potentiali to pianigiani and at the end he could be the 12 th man of the rooster,i think him or renzi...

Kwijibo
07-29-2011, 12:05 PM
In my opinion Italia needs a Spanish player like ibaka or mirotic :p

Xristos
07-29-2011, 05:32 PM
Where can we watch FYR Macedonia - Italy?

Xristos
07-29-2011, 06:56 PM
Italy leads 41-28 at half time
ITA: Mancinelli (8), Gallinari (7), Poeta (7)
MKD: Samardziski (9), Stojanovski (5), Sokolov (5), Nikolovski (5)

Italy started Hackett, Belinelli, Mancinelli, Gallinari, and Cusin (Bargnani not playing)
No Antic, Gecevski, and McCalebb

Xristos
07-29-2011, 08:02 PM
Italy won 89-70

Leading scorers - Belinelli 16, Gallinari 15, Mancinelli 12, Hackett 11, Carraretto 11
Samardziski 14, D. Stojanovski 13, Ilievski 12

Italian Pride
07-30-2011, 10:19 AM
yesterday among our pg i really liked peppe poeta,i hope he'll be in the final rooster,usually he isn't very good ind efense,but yesterday is committed also in defense,then he is only pg that has different features than other,he likes to play at a fast pace,so for this reason he'll be important to give a change of pace when he comes off the bench...also hackett played a good game,but he is more a combo guard than pure playmaker like peppe...

so my rooster could be:

cinciarini/maestranzi(i prefer cincia)-poeta
belinelli-hackett-mordente
carraretto-datome
gallinari-mancinelli
bargnani-cusin

renzi or melli will be the 12th man of our NT...

Xristos
07-30-2011, 05:48 PM
Italy beat Bulgaria 80-74
Italy: Gallinari 20, Belinelli 19, Cusin 11
Bulgaria: Videnov 18, D. Ivanov 12, Kostov 11


No Bargnani for Italy and no Calloway for Bulgaria

Mindozas
07-30-2011, 06:39 PM
Italy beat Bulgaria 80-74
Italy: Gallinari 20, Belinelli 19, Cusin 11
Bulgaria: Videnov 18, D. Ivanov 12, Kostov 11


No Bargnani for Italy and no Calloway for Bulgaria

Hmm, if I'm not wrog, naturalized player of BG will be Rowland :confused:

Markoishvili
07-30-2011, 08:45 PM
yesterday among our pg i really liked peppe poeta,i hope he'll be in the final rooster,usually he isn't very good ind efense,but yesterday is committed also in defense,then he is only pg that has different features than other,he likes to play at a fast pace,so for this reason he'll be important to give a change of pace when he comes off the bench...also hackett played a good game,but he is more a combo guard than pure playmaker like peppe...

so my rooster could be:

cinciarini/maestranzi(i prefer cincia)-poeta
belinelli-hackett-mordente
carraretto-datome
gallinari-mancinelli
bargnani-cusin

renzi or melli will be the 12th man of our NT...

That team has great potential at the offensive end. I think Gallinari will still spend a lot of time playing SF so Mancinelli can get on the court since he is superior to Carrareto. But when Gallo and Bargnani are at 4-5 that is really a nightmare for opposing team, guarding them on the perimeter.

Still, i miss something in this team. The sort of chemistry and team-work, especially at the defensive end. Not sure you have the right coach also. Bellineli-Gallinari-Bargnani trio is great, but role players are rather weak. Maestranzi, Carrareto, Datome...not really Eurobasket calibre players.

Italian Pride
07-30-2011, 09:46 PM
That team has great potential at the offensive end. I think Gallinari will still spend a lot of time playing SF so Mancinelli can get on the court since he is superior to Carrareto. But when Gallo and Bargnani are at 4-5 that is really a nightmare for opposing team, guarding them on the perimeter.

Still, i miss something in this team. The sort of chemistry and team-work, especially at the defensive end. Not sure you have the right coach also. Bellineli-Gallinari-Bargnani trio is great, but role players are rather weak. Maestranzi, Carrareto, Datome...not really Eurobasket calibre players.

carraretto will be role player like in montepaschi siena,i think he can do a good job in this role,datome has a great potential in the last season he seems to have finally unlocked. I think that we lack especially a center of weight ,so cusin is a good center but he is very light,i hope that bargnani get more rebounds than his standard in nba...:D

the possibile starting five hackett-belinelli-gallinari-mancinelli-bargnani is very intriguing, even if at that point only carraretto and in part datome from the bench would have a minimum experience of European level...:confused:

Xristos
07-30-2011, 10:04 PM
carraretto will be role player like in montepaschi siena,i think he can do a good job in this role,datome has a great potential in the last season he seems to have finally unlocked. I think that we lack especially a center of weight ,so cusin is a good center but he is very light,i hope that bargnani get more rebounds than his standard in nba...:D

the possibile starting five hackett-belinelli-gallinari-mancinelli-bargnani is very intriguing, even if at that point only carraretto and in part datome from the bench would have a minimum experience of European level...:confused:

Maestranzi will probably start, no? I heard Pianigiani likes how he runs the pick and roll with Bargnani.

I like the lineup with Hackett and Manci better.

I disagree that Carraretto isn't Eurobasket level, he is a great role player

Datome and Poeta too

Italian Pride
07-30-2011, 10:18 PM
Maestranzi will probably start, no? I heard Pianigiani likes how he runs the pick and roll with Bargnani.

I like the lineup with Hackett and Manci better.

I disagree that Carraretto isn't Eurobasket level, he is a great role player

Datome and Poeta too

i just hope that pianigiani won't carry mestranzi in lituania,but it is jus my hope unfortunately...

yeah pianigiani like him probably he'll be in the starting five,we'll se in the next friendly if maestranzi ll be in the starting five or instead pianigiani confimred hackett like in these 2 friendly...

i think that the strating five with mancio,hackett and 3nbaers has the higher offensive potential of all teams in europe...

i agree on carraretto and datome,but poeta is an unknown at that level, never played Euroleague or national competition,we don't know if he'll be a bluff or good player at that level...:)

boyd20
07-30-2011, 10:47 PM
We may have big chemistry issues, although we have many hard-working players who are willing to sacrifice, still we depend way too much on our three NBAers. The fact is there's a hole beyond them and that's the main issue, then we can add we lack quality in both PG and C spots...
Not a huge fan of Maestranzi, he also comes off a bad and unlucky season, but he's more of a PG than the other options we have:

- Poeta gives us a good change of pace off the bench, but I'd not expect much more;
- Vitali...has I.Q. but he's slow, has lost accuracy in his once good 3-pt shot and he's a defensive liability more than Poeta, who at least can pressure the ball;
- Hackett is a good all-around player, but definitely not a PG.

Maestranzi is tiny, struggles as a defender, but he's the one with better playmaking skills, has a good feeling with Bargnani running the pick & roll and hits the 3, even if he's not as consistent as he used to be until a couple of years ago. Nothing special, but if he's healthy we'd need him.

I think Mancinelli is going to be essential to our hopes of advancing. He's the most skilled and experienced player besides the big three, he's the one who gives us alternatives with his ability to play with his back to the basket and with his passing skills, especially while he's in the low post. He generates offense and helps in creating space.

I would have liked to see Aradori, Gentile, Crosariol, Ress as they all could have been helpful, but for different reasons we won't see them.

Italian Pride
07-30-2011, 11:08 PM
- Poeta gives us a good change of pace off the bench, but I'd not expect much more;
- Vitali...has I.Q. but he's slow, has lost accuracy in his once good 3-pt shot and he's a defensive liability more than Poeta, who at least can pressure the ball;
- Hackett is a good all-around player, but definitely not a PG.


you forget cinciarini,for me the best point guard in our NT,he's good in defense,he has a good I.Q,he can play the pick'n roll very well,for me he's a good playmaker,better than maestranzi...

Xristos
07-30-2011, 11:39 PM
We may have big chemistry issues, although we have many hard-working players who are willing to sacrifice, still we depend way too much on our three NBAers. The fact is there's a hole beyond them and that's the main issue, then we can add we lack quality in both PG and C spots...
Not a huge fan of Maestranzi, he also comes off a bad and unlucky season, but he's more of a PG than the other options we have:

- Poeta gives us a good change of pace off the bench, but I'd not expect much more;
- Vitali...has I.Q. but he's slow, has lost accuracy in his once good 3-pt shot and he's a defensive liability more than Poeta, who at least can pressure the ball;
- Hackett is a good all-around player, but definitely not a PG.

Maestranzi is tiny, struggles as a defender, but he's the one with better playmaking skills, has a good feeling with Bargnani running the pick & roll and hits the 3, even if he's not as consistent as he used to be until a couple of years ago. Nothing special, but if he's healthy we'd need him.

I think Mancinelli is going to be essential to our hopes of advancing. He's the most skilled and experienced player besides the big three, he's the one who gives us alternatives with his ability to play with his back to the basket and with his passing skills, especially while he's in the low post. He generates offense and helps in creating space.

I would have liked to see Aradori, Gentile, Crosariol, Ress as they all could have been helpful, but for different reasons we won't see them.

Hackett is a combo guard and he can do the basic playmaking. A true point guard isn't needed on this team since Gallo, Marco, and Bargnani are 1 on 1 type isolation players

Hackett is probably the best defensive option at point guard and his strength and size will match up well against Parker, Teodosic, and Hamann who are their group

I think Renzi is a nice addition with his 3 pt shooting and IQ. I agree that Mancinelli is the key. He may the best athlete on this team

I'm not familiar with Cinciarini

Is there any youtube highlights that I can familiarize myself with the less known Italian NT guys?

Italian Pride
07-30-2011, 11:51 PM
Hackett is a combo guard and he can do the basic playmaking. A true point guard isn't needed on this team since Gallo, Marco, and Bargnani are 1 on 1 type isolation players

Hackett is probably the best defensive option at point guard and his strength and size will match up well against Parker, Teodosic, and Hamann who are their group

I think Renzi is a nice addition with his 3 pt shooting and IQ. I agree that Mancinelli is the key. He may the best athlete on this team

I'm not familiar with Cinciarini

Is there any youtube highlights that I can familiarize myself with the less known Italian NT guys?
renzi good 3pt shooting?mmm.perhaps tou confuse him with another player...:D

cinciarini...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPGpWyIySpg

Xristos
07-30-2011, 11:58 PM
renzi good 3pt shooting?mmm.perhaps tou confuse him with another player...:D

cinciarini...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPGpWyIySpg


Looks like the guy I meant was Tomas Ress :D

Thanks for the highlights

Italian Pride
07-31-2011, 12:04 AM
Looks like the guy I meant was Tomas Ress :D

Thanks for the highlights

ress and renzi is too similar,easy to be wrong...;)

waht do you think about cinciarini?

boyd20
07-31-2011, 12:31 AM
@ Italian Pride

You're right, I forgot about Cinciarini, my bad. Anyway, I like him too, but I have a feeling Pianigiani is not going to count on him, or at least, not much. I guess he wants more experienced guys and I think he'd rather give a shot to Maestranzi, since he already chose him as a starting PG last summer, if he's healthy, obviously. I think Pianigiani mainly wants experience from all the other players and Maestranzi, Poeta, Vitali all are more experienced than Cinciarini.

@ Xristos

What you say about Hackett is fine, still I think we can not count too much on Bargnani, Belinelli and Gallinari creating their shots individually. They can do it, but not for a whole game, as they tend to force a lot - Belinelli more than the others, has a "questionable" shot selection - and if our role players are not involved at all then they will give us nothing as unfortunately they're not so skilled to be ready to hit whenever they're needed to, so we would not have alternatives to those three...This way you can beat smaller teams, you can win friendlies but I'm afraid it won't be enough when the tourney begins. Damn, we really lack depth.

Duncan
07-31-2011, 02:10 AM
yep, there is something just missing on this team. If it plays on all cylinders, it could make the Final Four, but that's a big "IF". I think rebounding could be a problem against more physical, higher level teams, and Maestranzi is a liabilty at this level. Maybe Cinciarini can grab his chance.

I really wish gentile would have gotten chosen as well. He could have been that X factor with his energy and youth

Buzissa
07-31-2011, 02:55 AM
Hmm, if I'm not wrog, naturalized player of BG will be Rowland :confused:

You are right.

Bulgaria Preliminary Roster:
Filip Videnov
Chavdar Kostov
Ivan Lilov
Zlatin Georgiev
Tihomir Zhelev
Aleksandar Gruev
Bozhidar Avramov
Asen Velikov
Plamen Aleksiev
Earl Rowland
Dejan Ivanov
Kaloyan Ivanov
Stanislav Vaklinov
Aleksandar Yanev
Pavel Marinov
Nikolay Varbanov
Stefan Georgiev
Tencho Banev
Kostadin Marshavelski
Cedric Simmons

Xristos
07-31-2011, 04:41 AM
You are right.

Bulgaria Preliminary Roster:
Filip Videnov
Chavdar Kostov
Ivan Lilov
Zlatin Georgiev
Tihomir Zhelev
Aleksandar Gruev
Bozhidar Avramov
Asen Velikov
Plamen Aleksiev
Earl Rowland
Dejan Ivanov
Kaloyan Ivanov
Stanislav Vaklinov
Aleksandar Yanev
Pavel Marinov
Nikolay Varbanov
Stefan Georgiev
Tencho Banev
Kostadin Marshavelski
Cedric Simmons

Cedric Simmons :eek:

He was great at Kavala! Very athletic rebounder and shot blocker, he would be a great selection

Toxicity
08-01-2011, 03:57 PM
I don't know if it's true but it seems that Alessandro Gentile and Riccardo Moraschini will join the Italy NT training camp in Rome.

Maybe some of the backcourt players (Maestranzi, Cavaliero, ecc) are still injured and Pianigiani is not sure about them...

Genjuro
08-01-2011, 06:11 PM
I've watched a couple of games and it looks to me that Belinelli is a big problem in this team (as usual as of late). His shot selection and decision making are really poor. He comes off his NBA season, where he was just a role guy, thinking that he can deliver the same stuff he used to do back in Bologna, but that's not possible. That was way too much time ago, he's not used to it and he's not effective at all. He could be really useful sticking to balanced shots and creating off the dribble for his teammates, but I'm a bit pessimistic about his willingness to sacrifice his appetite for shots.

Meanwhile, Gallinari seems to struggle a little bit to get his opponents off the dribble as he used to do back in Milano, and against Macedonia he settled for too many jumpers IMO. Don't make me wrong: he's a great shooter, but this team would really benefit from other different offensive options. I liked how aggressive he was in the second game, against Bulgaria. Anyway, I guess his NBA game style and physical work might have hurt his slashing ability a little bit, although I'm still not sure about this.

The PG issue is a concern because, without a dominant playmaker, Belinelli takes more decisions, which is bad for the team. If he settled down, it wouldn't be such a big problem given the quality of the big three. I like Hackett, even if he's not the answer to the team problems, but he brings physical presence and a reasonable offensive option.

Vitali (I used to love him) looks like a former player. He has no confidence in his playmaking abilities and his jumper is off. He's useless at this point, I'm afraid.

It's sad to see how Italy struggles to produce those smart, hard-nosed and ultra-competitive players with loads of character that used to be a trademark for this country, and that would perfectly compliment the current team stars. I guess it's a matter of having such a decimated domestic league. Anyway, I was in Bilbao a week ago watching the medal games at the U20 EC, and I was almost touched by Moraschini, who looks closer to that old Italian mold. Too bad he's not that true playmaker this NT needs so bad.

Xristos
08-01-2011, 06:15 PM
Vitali (I used to love him) looks like a former player. He has no confidence in his playmaking abilities and his jumper is off. He's useless at this point, I'm afraid.

It's sad to see how Italy struggles to produce those smart, hard-nosed and ultra-competitive players with loads of character that used to be a trademark for this country, and that would perfectly compliment the current team stars. I guess it's a matter of having such a decimated domestic league. Anyway, I was in Bilbao a week ago watching the medal games at the U20 EC, and I was almost touched by Moraschini, who looks closer to that old Italian mold. Too bad he's not that true playmaker this NT needs so bad.

You're kidding?? Italian league is excellent and the second division is better than many national leagues too.

Toxicity
08-01-2011, 07:01 PM
I've watched a couple of games and it looks to me that Belinelli is a big problem in this team (as usual as of late). His shot selection and decision making are really poor. He comes off his NBA season, where he was just a role guy, thinking that he can deliver the same stuff he used to do back in Bologna, but that's not possible. That was way too much time ago, he's not used to it and he's not effective at all. He could be really useful sticking to balanced shots and creating off the dribble for his teammates, but I'm a bit pessimistic about his willingness to sacrifice his appetite for shots.

Well Genjuro, it's true that Belinelli forced many situations that i didn't like in the first 2 games but we also have to point out that Bargnani wasn't there and he's the 1st option on offense. I hope with the come back of Andrea the offensive roles will be more balanced and Belinelli will hopefully do less damages... i think he should be closer to the player we've seen this year in NO (spot-up shooter mainly) with some slashing drives to variate his game. Even without a legit PG we have another ball-handler in Gallinari so Marco should concentrate in other aspects of the game. We'll see in the next friendly games if he can do it or not and if Pianigiani can motivate him to do so.


Meanwhile, Gallinari seems to struggle a little bit to get his opponents off the dribble as he used to do back in Milano, and against Macedonia he settled for too many jumpers IMO. Don't make me wrong: he's a great shooter, but this team would really benefit from other different offensive options. I liked how aggressive he was in the second game, against Bulgaria. Anyway, I guess his NBA game style and physical work might have hurt his slashing ability a little bit, although I'm still not sure about this.

Yeah, he definitely lost some quickness since his AJ Milano seasons... but he's also stronger and maybe can help us also under the boards where we struggle. Anyway it's just 2 weeks of work so maybe he has just to improve his conditioning...


The PG issue is a concern because, without a dominant playmaker, Belinelli takes more decisions, which is bad for the team. If he settled down, it wouldn't be such a big problem given the quality of the big three. I like Hackett, even if he's not the answer to the team problems, but he brings physical presence and a reasonable offensive option.

Hackett did pretty well... he can slash to the basket, something we lack in this team.

I'm curious to see how Cinciarini performs since he'll be the starter PG of Cantù in Euroleague... he has some talent and body to play at that level.


Vitali (I used to love him) looks like a former player. He has no confidence in his playmaking abilities and his jumper is off. He's useless at this point, I'm afraid.

I remember you loved Vitali but i think he was never a great prospect due to his limited body and athleticism (although i hoped to see him as Euroleague caliber player)... now he's also a worst shooter or maybe he lost his confidence so he's definitely useless like you say.


It's sad to see how Italy struggles to produce those smart, hard-nosed and ultra-competitive players with loads of character that used to be a trademark for this country, and that would perfectly compliment the current team stars. I guess it's a matter of having such a decimated domestic league. Anyway, I was in Bilbao a week ago watching the medal games at the U20 EC, and I was almost touched by Moraschini, who looks closer to that old Italian mold. Too bad he's not that true playmaker this NT needs so bad.

Moraschini is not a PG... he can play some minutes like Belinelli used to play several years ago... unfortunately Riccardo doesn't have the outside shot to play at Euroleague level like Marco.

If you watched U20 medal games you should have noticed the real hard nosed guy in the italian team: Achille Polonara... too bad he hasn't too many skills beside his athleticism and energy...

Genjuro
08-01-2011, 07:35 PM
If you watched U20 medal games you should have noticed the real hard nosed guy in the italian team: Achille Polonara... too bad he hasn't too many skills beside his athleticism and energy...
Yes, he was nice. Good energy there. A bit skinny too. He's the kind of player that might develop into something interesting, but it's hard to say, and he's not a teenager anymore. Anyway, it was funny during one game when he dunked on a much shorter guard and kept eye contact defying him like he had dunked on Dwight Howard.

Genjuro
08-01-2011, 07:38 PM
You're kidding?? Italian league is excellent and the second division is better than many national leagues too.
Of course, it's excellent compared to leagues such as the Greek one. But it's a lot worse than the Italian league from past decades. Not only the level has dropped, but there's a sure winner every single year. Little competitiveness there. I don't think it's a mere coincidence their struggles to produce good team players and the situation of the league.

Italian Pride
08-02-2011, 12:14 AM
I've watched a couple of games and it looks to me that Belinelli is a big problem in this team (as usual as of late). His shot selection and decision making are really poor. He comes off his NBA season, where he was just a role guy, thinking that he can deliver the same stuff he used to do back in Bologna, but that's not possible. That was way too much time ago, he's not used to it and he's not effective at all. He could be really useful sticking to balanced shots and creating off the dribble for his teammates, but I'm a bit pessimistic about his willingness to sacrifice his appetite for shots.

Meanwhile, Gallinari seems to struggle a little bit to get his opponents off the dribble as he used to do back in Milano, and against Macedonia he settled for too many jumpers IMO. Don't make me wrong: he's a great shooter, but this team would really benefit from other different offensive options. I liked how aggressive he was in the second game, against Bulgaria. Anyway, I guess his NBA game style and physical work might have hurt his slashing ability a little bit, although I'm still not sure about this.

The PG issue is a concern because, without a dominant playmaker, Belinelli takes more decisions, which is bad for the team. If he settled down, it wouldn't be such a big problem given the quality of the big three. I like Hackett, even if he's not the answer to the team problems, but he brings physical presence and a reasonable offensive option.

Vitali (I used to love him) looks like a former player. He has no confidence in his playmaking abilities and his jumper is off. He's useless at this point, I'm afraid.

It's sad to see how Italy struggles to produce those smart, hard-nosed and ultra-competitive players with loads of character that used to be a trademark for this country, and that would perfectly compliment the current team stars. I guess it's a matter of having such a decimated domestic league. Anyway, I was in Bilbao a week ago watching the medal games at the U20 EC, and I was almost touched by Moraschini, who looks closer to that old Italian mold. Too bad he's not that true playmaker this NT needs so bad.

i agree on belinelli's speech, i hope he has a little play so well because he wanted to entertain the audience a little...:rolleyes:

gallinari,i think he'll be most important player in this NT,because he is able to involve their colleagues and to be the emotional leader of the team...;)

hackett isn't a pure pg,but hhe 'll be very improtant in difense above all...
among PG i'm so curious to see andrea cinciarini,who Italian basketball commentator calls "the italian diamantidis"...:D

vitali the most talented among our PG together cinciarini could be the ideal playmaker of this team,because because he knows basketball and with bargnani would have had a very good feeling IMO...shame as you say now looks like a former player with no confidence in his game...

homever vitali against bulgaria playeed a few minutes and very well...

we have a few smart players smart players in this NT unfortunately maybe four.gallinari,carraretto,cinciarini and vitali.:(

Italian Pride
08-02-2011, 10:25 AM
cavaliero out for 3 weeks...

maybe pianigiani will call gentile and moraschini,to replace him...

Slam
08-02-2011, 04:37 PM
i agree on belinelli's speech, i hope he has a little play so well because he wanted to entertain the audience a little...:rolleyes:

gallinari,i think he'll be most important player in this NT,because he is able to involve their colleagues and to be the emotional leader of the team...;)

hackett isn't a pure pg,but hhe 'll be very improtant in difense above all...
among PG i'm so curious to see andrea cinciarini,who Italian basketball commentator calls "the italian diamantidis"...:D

vitali the most talented among our PG together cinciarini could be the ideal playmaker of this team,because because he knows basketball and with bargnani would have had a very good feeling IMO...shame as you say now looks like a former player with no confidence in his game...

homever vitali against bulgaria playeed a few minutes and very well...

we have a few smart players smart players in this NT unfortunately maybe four.gallinari,carraretto,cinciarini and vitali.:(

I whole-heartedly agree with you that Belinelli might be a problem (http://euroleagueadventures.com/quintuple-double-the-ten-least-important-nba-names-in-eurobasket/) and that Gallinari is the key to the team (http://euroleagueadventures.com/quintuple-double-ten-guys-that-need-to-step-up-in-eurobasket/)

Vitali can run the point well on offense and has really played well enough in the Italian league to earn a defined spot. Vitali-Bellinelli-Gallinari-Mancinelli-Bargnani would be my 5.

Italian Pride
08-02-2011, 04:56 PM
I whole-heartedly agree with you that Belinelli might be a problem (http://euroleagueadventures.com/quintuple-double-the-ten-least-important-nba-names-in-eurobasket/) and that Gallinari is the key to the team (http://euroleagueadventures.com/quintuple-double-ten-guys-that-need-to-step-up-in-eurobasket/)

Vitali can run the point well on offense and has really played well enough in the Italian league to earn a defined spot. Vitali-Bellinelli-Gallinari-Mancinelli-Bargnani would be my 5.

unfortunately we don't have prospects in PG position:de nicolao playmaker of under 20,is not ready yet to play an eurobasket...

so we call hackett and cinciarini that are not very young but they are rookies at this level like peppe poeta,so we'll see whether the level belongs to their or not ...homerver our princiapal lakc is in centre positioni,where we don't have a centre with tonnage,but only cusin hat is very light unfortunately....

belinelli pg i hope no homever...:D

the problem of vitali,is the lack of confidenze in his game,becuase in the last year he played very little due to injuries and not just,in addition to this defense has always been a problem for the lack of athleticism,so he isn' the ideal of our nt above all for the defense...;)

CKR13
08-25-2011, 08:46 AM
Italy 102 Brigham Young University 63

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700173375/BYU-basketball-Trip-to-Greece-ends-with-loss-to-Italian-squad.html

boyd20
08-27-2011, 08:44 PM
Daniel Hackett - Antonio Maestranzi - Andrea Cinciarini
Marco Belinelli - Marco Mordente
Danilo Gallinari - Luigi Datome - Marco Carraretto
Stefano Mancinelli - Andrea Renzi
Andrea Bargnani - Marco Cusin

4 Marcos, 3 Andreas + 1 Daniel & Danilo, not much fantasy uh...:)

This is who we are, expect the big three to play at least 30 minutes per game and let's hope Bargnani doesn't get in foul trouble, or we'll have to rely on Cusin and Renzi...:(
We're gonna miss Crosariol's size and intimidation down low, we could have had Aradori or even Gentile as backup SG instead of Mordente, who's way past his prime and I don't think can give much help.

Duncan
08-28-2011, 12:47 AM
I agree with you, why not bring Gentile? He could get some vital experience with the big boys, which could launch him for the future.

Bargnani has to stay out of foul trouble, no 2 ways about it.

I think Hackett could be the mister x[no not Galliani's mister x] for this roster. If he has a big tourney and can play multiple postions, Italia can really think about the top 6 or higher.

That is, if the Big 3 plus Manc play up to their expected standards

Italian Pride
08-28-2011, 11:35 AM
I agree with you, why not bring Gentile? He could get some vital experience with the big boys, which could launch him for the future.

Bargnani has to stay out of foul trouble, no 2 ways about it.

I think Hackett could be the mister x[no not Galliani's mister x] for this roster. If he has a big tourney and can play multiple postions, Italia can really think about the top 6 or higher.

That is, if the Big 3 plus Manc play up to their expected standards
carraetto for 10 minutes is better than gentile IMO actually,carraretto has more experience than gentile,better in defense than gentile ...

in this rooster gentile must be a member of supporting cast,not the ideal for him,so like mebmer of supproting cast is better carraretto IMO...;)


our rooster is just official:

hackett-maetsranzi-cinciarini
belinelli-carraretto-mordente
gallinari-datome
mancinelli
bargnani-cusin-renzi

Toxicity
08-28-2011, 01:18 PM
carraetto for 10 minutes is better than gentile IMO actually,carraretto has more experience than gentile,better in defense than gentile ...

in this rooster gentile must be a member of supporting cast,not the ideal for him,so like mebmer of supproting cast is better carraretto IMO...;)


our rooster is just official:

hackett-maetsranzi-cinciarini
belinelli-carraretto-mordente
gallinari-datome
mancinelli
bargnani-cusin-renzi

I didn't see Carraretto very well in these friendlies... he was launching bricks wide open and defended very bad for his standard. I hope he's fine for the start of EC or that 10 minutes of play will cost us much...

Also i don't trust in Mordente very much (another old guard without speed or 3p accuracy)... maybe Gentile is too young but a guy like Aradori (deadly 3p shooter and good rebounder) would have been much more useful as backup SG imo.

boyd20
08-28-2011, 01:34 PM
I didn't see Carraretto very well in these friendlies... he was launching bricks wide open and defended very bad for his standard. I hope he's fine for the start of EC or that 10 minutes of play will cost us much...

Also i don't trust in Mordente very much (another old guard without speed or 3p accuracy)... maybe Gentile is too young but a guy like Aradori (deadly 3p shooter and good rebounder) would have been much more useful as backup SG imo.

Definitely, I didn't understand why Pianigiani chose to leave him at home.
We really need more scoring options besides the big three, Aradori imo is the only one who could have brought some instant offense, potentially he can score plenty of points in a few minutes.
I'm afraid we will struggle in getting buckets by the other players, unless Mancinelli will be particularly effective in the low post, as this would also create space for open shots. Maybe also Datome could help us offensively, but he's streaky and I didn't see him very accurate in these friendlies. Plus, he's in a position in which he may not get a lot of minutes.

Anyway, I'm afraid that rebounds and low-post defense will be our biggest issues, even more than finding other finishers.

Duncan
08-29-2011, 12:30 AM
With this team, Italia def needs to spread the floor . Lack of post play is noticable, unless Manc can be that guy. I still thnk why not have Gentile and Aradori on this roster. They will be important for the future, and are really good now. Mordente and Carraretto don't add much in this tourney, I am sorry. In Serie A, maybe, but not in Eurobasket

GIANLUCA
08-29-2011, 08:53 AM
I have red an article how overcome the problem of lack of a good playmaker: let Gallinari play in that position! In your opinion it could be a practicable idea ?

OrgoglioSlavo
08-29-2011, 10:01 AM
I've really said that for too many times now, english please
JPF

boyd20
08-29-2011, 10:34 AM
With this team, Italia def needs to spread the floor . Lack of post play is noticable, unless Manc can be that guy. I still thnk why not have Gentile and Aradori on this roster. They will be important for the future, and are really good now. Mordente and Carraretto don't add much in this tourney, I am sorry. In Serie A, maybe, but not in Eurobasket

I'd agree, though this means we will always have to be accurate and consistent from the arc to win games, but all of our shooters are very streaky.

I'm still convinced that Mancinelli is the key with his point forward and post play skills. If he gets in rhythm we'll be dangerous.

Italian Pride
08-29-2011, 01:19 PM
With this team, Italia def needs to spread the floor . Lack of post play is noticable, unless Manc can be that guy. I still thnk why not have Gentile and Aradori on this roster. They will be important for the future, and are really good now. Mordente and Carraretto don't add much in this tourney, I am sorry. In Serie A, maybe, but not in Eurobasket

gallo and mago can play low post in europe...;)

homever i have good feeling for the next EC...

turk-jugoslav
08-29-2011, 06:40 PM
Italy is the most underated team of Lithuania 2011.Italy has very good players who may be counted as the '' top '' players of their positions in Europe like Bargnani,Gallinari and Bellinelli.Italy can do suprise to Europe.The main prpblem is that good Nba players is not good at defence and there are many unkonown things from another players about their offensive helpings.Italy is always dangerous team.Thare many reasons to afraid of Italy.Especialy Italian NBA players...

Basketball Owner
08-29-2011, 07:15 PM
Italy is the most underated team of Lithuania 2011.Italy has very good players who may be counted as the '' top '' players of their positions in Europe like Bargnani,Gallinari and Bellinelli.Italy can do suprise to Europe.The main prpblem is that good Nba players is not good at defence and there are many unkonown things from another players about their offensive helpings.Italy is always dangerous team.Thare many reasons to afraid of Italy.Especialy Italian NBA players...

I just wrote on Italy-Serbia thread how Italy is most overrated team on Eurobasket... Anyway, I think you're wrong. If Bellineli, Bargnani or Galinarri weren't Italians, they would see NBA only on TV...

Duncan
08-30-2011, 12:24 AM
what??????? Put the crack pipe down

DarkoMVP
08-30-2011, 05:22 AM
I just wrote on Italy-Serbia thread how Italy is most overrated team on Eurobasket... Anyway, I think you're wrong. If Bellineli, Bargnani or Galinarri weren't Italians, they would see NBA only on TV...

Do the Italians control the NBA somehow?

Italian Pride
04-09-2012, 12:19 AM
what do you think about this roster for the next summer:

poeta-cinciarini-de nicolao
belinelli-hackett-aradori
gallinari-mancinelli-datome-gentile
bargnani-gigli-melli
cusin-crosariol-cuccarolo(chiotti)

i hope that pianigiani use bargnani in his real role of power forward..

Italian Pride
04-19-2012, 11:12 PM
gallinari in online interview for italian newspaper declared that next summer will play with NT...

now we attend belinelli and bargnani...

carlo
05-07-2012, 06:44 PM
Italian experimental NT roster of 16 players has been presented today:

Amici Alessandro (91, 200, A, Brandini Firenze)
Cervi Riccardo (91, 212, C, Trenkwalder Reggio Emilia)
Chessa Massimo (88, 188, G, Angelico Biella)
Cournooh David (90, 189, G, Aget Service Imola)
Cuccarolo Gino (87, 219, C, Benetton Treviso)
D’Ercole Lorenzo (88, 190, G, Vanoli Braga Cremona)
De Nicolao Andrea (91, 185, G, Benetton Treviso)
Ferrero Giancarlo (88, 195, A, Conad Bologna)
Ganeto Gabriele (87, 200, A, Cimberio Varese)
Magro Daniele (87, 208, C, Umana Venezia)
Mazzola Valerio (88, 204, C, Fabi Shoes Montegranaro)
Moraschini Riccardo (91, 203, G, Canadian Solar Bologna)
Polonara Achille (91, 203, A, Banca Tercas Teramo)
Portannese Marco (89, 192, G, PMS Torino)
Renzi Andrea (89, 209, C, Tezenis Verona)
Santiangeli Marco (91, 192, A, Fileni Bpa Jesi)

Players age ranges between 1987 and 1991.
Nicolò Melli (1991, 2011 U20) and Daniel Hackett (1987, 2011 NT trials invitee) are not in the roster.
This experimental NT will play Greece in Athens June 19 and 20, then France in Pau (June 27) and in Boulzac (28).

http://www.fip.it/News.asp?IDNews=4719

Italian Pride
06-04-2012, 05:26 PM
bargnani,belinelli and gentile won't play this summer with NT...

rikhardur
06-08-2012, 01:03 AM
bargnani,belinelli and gentile won't play this summer with NT...
According to this (http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_pXXUK75KHr2PKA3ny0IXU1.articleMode_on.html) Belinelli is uncertain to play.

Italian Pride
06-09-2012, 11:45 PM
According to this (http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_pXXUK75KHr2PKA3ny0IXU1.articleMode_on.html) Belinelli is uncertain to play.

yes,but probably there won't be...

Italian Pride
07-03-2012, 10:06 PM
pianigiani called 16 players in order of role:

poeta-cinciarini-cavaliero
hackett-aradori-vitali-chessa
gallinari-datome-viggiano
melli-mancinelli
cusin-gigli-chiotti-magro

viggiano and chiotti both naturalized...

out:bargnani(injury)belinelli and gentile(injury)...

in italy we all expected at least the call of polonara and also moraschini,that played well with italy sperimental the last month...

no one expected the call of luca vitali...

starting five: poeta-hackett-gallinari-melli-cusin i like it...

Toxicity
07-04-2012, 01:07 PM
starting five: poeta-hackett-gallinari-melli-cusin i like it...

More likely Hackett-Aradori-Gallinari-Mancinelli-Cusin...

Italian Pride
07-25-2012, 08:58 PM
we won the first friendly without melli(injury and probably out for the qualifiers) and gallinari(back problems)...

tthe score box:

Finland-Italy 71-79 (24-18, 43-38, 56-59)
Finlandia: Koivisto 11 (1/3, 3/5), Muurinen 4 (1/4, 0/1), Huff 8 (1/3, 2/3), Lee ne, Salin 8 (1/4, 2/6), Kotti 9 (4/9), Koponen 14 (4/10, 1/6), Makalainen 2 (1/1), Mottola 11 (4/8, 0/3), Ahonen (0/1), Nikkarinen 4 (0/1), Nuutinen (0/1), Kaunisto (0/2, 0/1), Lindbom (0/1). All: Dettman
Italia: Cavaliero 3 (1/2, 0/1), Mancinelli 13 (2/4, 1/5), Poeta 1 (0/1), Vitali 2 (1/2), Cusin (0/2), Datome 15 (5/9, 1/3), Magro ne, Gigli 6 (3/6), Chessa ne, Cinciarini, Viggiano 5 (1/1, 1/2), Hackett 5 (1/2, 0/2), Chiotti 12 (5/7), Aradori 17 (2/4, 2/4). All: Pianigiani. Ass: Dalmonte, Fioretti

Note: Tiri da 2 Ita 21/40, Fin 18/48; tiri da 3 Ita 5/17, Fin 8/25; tiri liberi Ita 22/29, Fin 11/14. Rimbalzi Ita 38, Fin 38. Assist Ita 17; Fin 10.

we sucks in the first and second quarter,we play better in the other two...

chiotti impressed me (usually i think him like a similar mason rocca but he has better hands),pivot under size but with good hands and fighter...

datome and aradori played a good game,but the mvp is mancinelli...

Toxicity
07-26-2012, 10:30 AM
we won the first friendly without melli(injury and probably out for the qualifiers) and gallinari(back problems)...

tthe score box:

Finland-Italy 71-79 (24-18, 43-38, 56-59)
Finlandia: Koivisto 11 (1/3, 3/5), Muurinen 4 (1/4, 0/1), Huff 8 (1/3, 2/3), Lee ne, Salin 8 (1/4, 2/6), Kotti 9 (4/9), Koponen 14 (4/10, 1/6), Makalainen 2 (1/1), Mottola 11 (4/8, 0/3), Ahonen (0/1), Nikkarinen 4 (0/1), Nuutinen (0/1), Kaunisto (0/2, 0/1), Lindbom (0/1). All: Dettman
Italia: Cavaliero 3 (1/2, 0/1), Mancinelli 13 (2/4, 1/5), Poeta 1 (0/1), Vitali 2 (1/2), Cusin (0/2), Datome 15 (5/9, 1/3), Magro ne, Gigli 6 (3/6), Chessa ne, Cinciarini, Viggiano 5 (1/1, 1/2), Hackett 5 (1/2, 0/2), Chiotti 12 (5/7), Aradori 17 (2/4, 2/4). All: Pianigiani. Ass: Dalmonte, Fioretti

Note: Tiri da 2 Ita 21/40, Fin 18/48; tiri da 3 Ita 5/17, Fin 8/25; tiri liberi Ita 22/29, Fin 11/14. Rimbalzi Ita 38, Fin 38. Assist Ita 17; Fin 10.

we sucks in the first and second quarter,we play better in the other two...

chiotti impressed me (usually i think him like a similar mason rocca but he has better hands),pivot under size but with good hands and fighter...

datome and aradori played a good game,but the mvp is mancinelli...

I agree with you about Chiotti... finally we have a decent C under the basket (even if he's undersized)...

Italian Pride
07-26-2012, 11:46 PM
second testmatch in trento's tournament...

Italia-Bosnia Erzegovina 84-81 (26-17, 44-35, 64-62)
Italia: Cavaliero 5 (1/1, 1/5), Mancinelli 14 (2/3, 3/5), Poeta, Vitali, Cusin 10 (4/5), Datome 12 (4/9, 1/1), Magro ne, Gigli 13 (5/5, 1/1), Chessa, Cinciarini (0/2), Viggiano (0/1, 0/2), Hackett 8 (3/4, 0/3), Chiotti 2 (1/3), Aradori 20 (5/8, 3/6). All: Pianigiani; Ass: Dalmonte, Fioretti
Bosnia Erzegovina: Avdibegovic ne, Masic 5 (1/2, 1/3), Brkic ne, Naletilic, Wright 9 (3/12), Bavcic ne, Mitrovic, Kikanovic 16 (7/9), Teletovic 19 (0/1), Persic 3 (0/1, 1/2), Dedovic 29 (7/10, 3/5), Sinanovic (0/1). All: Petrovic

we lead always the match even reaching 13 -14 point lead...i like team performance,every player take his responsabilty,we passed the ball with pleasure,enfact 5 players scored at least 10 points and hackett almost 10 points...

i like this team,compared to previous years seem more of a real team...

i'm very happy for the performance of aradori and datome ,two guys that in national team have always been kept apart despite their talent,but now are showing that they can play at this level and also make the difference...

acki
07-27-2012, 04:54 PM
Any livescore of Trentino Cup?

Italian Pride
07-27-2012, 11:11 PM
Italia-Montenegro 84-73 (17-15, 35-25, 59-49)
Italia: Cavaliero 8 (1/1,2/5), Mancinelli(0/1 da tre), Poeta 6 (0/1,1/2), Vitali, Cusin 6 (3/3), Datome 20 (3/6,4/7), Magro, Gigli 6 (3/3,0/2), Chessa, Cinciarini 5 (2/2), Viggiano 2 (1/1), Hackett 11 (1/1), Chiotti 2 (0/1), Aradori 18 (1/4,3/5). All: Pianigiani. Ass: Dalmonte, Fioretti
Montenegro: Ivanovic 10 (1/2,2/3), Mihailovic 4 (1/2), Sehovic, Popovic 8 (1/2,2/2), Sehovic 13 (4/5,1/5), Sekulic 7 (2/2), Jelenic (0/1,0/3), Dragicevic 2 (1/3), Bjelica 2 (1/2,0/2), Rochestie 13 (4/8,0/1), Dubljevic 8 (2/3,1/1), Dasic 6 (0/2,2/5), Koljevic ne. All: Pavicevic

another good performance expecially in the second part of the match..

poeta worst for our team,he pumped the ball, much better cinciarini for me like point guard,enfact our best basketball when he was on the bench...

datome mvp of the torunament...

pianigiani called achille polonara to replace nicolò melli(injury)...

boyd20
12-05-2012, 02:44 PM
Travis Diener said he has applied for an Italian passport and would be very pleased to play for Italy in the next Eurobasket.
Well, let's hope he will get it soon, it would be a huge addition for us and for our ambitions.

Jazz
12-12-2012, 05:20 PM
boyd, I was wondering how closely you follow the Italians playing in the NBA?

boyd20
12-21-2012, 03:28 PM
boyd, I was wondering how closely you follow the Italians playing in the NBA?

I mostly read about them, since I watch them every now and then, definitely I am more focused on European basketball.