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the_black_planet
07-02-2006, 06:16 PM
Dear PhillipEurobasket and woma,I wrote before about it but probably you didn't notice.Can you give me some info about some players that pleyed in Polish League this year?I mean Jerome Beasley,Chris Herren and Gatis Jahovic.They are alla good talent but I don't know how they are at this stage of their career.Did they played well in Poland?Do you consider them able to compete in stronger leagues?Thanks.

Juan Carlos Nadal
07-02-2006, 06:19 PM
I created this thread for whoever wants info on the above.

PHILIPeurobasket
07-02-2006, 06:27 PM
Dear PhillipEurobasket and woma,I wrote before about it but probably you didn't notice.Can you give me some info about some players that pleyed in Polish League this year?I mean Jerome Beasley,Chris Herren and Gatis Jahovic.They are alla good talent but I don't know how they are at this stage of their career.Did they played well in Poland?Do you consider them able to compete in stronger leagues?Thanks.

Ok I can give You info :) thats no problem .... Beasley play in Polpak Swiecie, but he will not stay in this team. Jahovics play in my team (Anwil Wloclawek), and he has contract for next season, and Herren was on test also in Anwil :)

Here you have info about they:

JEROME BEASLEY
Height: 208cm / 6'10''
Position: Forward
Born: 1980
Team: Polpak (POL) (2006-06)
Nationality: USA
Agency: Naiditch Entertainment
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224lbs / 102kg
Birthday May, 17, 1980
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Outlook:
Jerome is a rarity in basketball. At 6'10, he averages near 50% from 3 pt range. At the same time, Jerome runs the court very well and has guard-like athleticism. With a mix of Karl Malone and Dirk Nowitski-like skills, Jerome is one of the NBA's future stars.
Good size and athleticsm.
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Career:
1999 Moreno Valley High School (California) 19ppg, 15rpg
1999-2000 Midland Junior College
2000-2001 Midland Junior College 9.8 ppg 5rpg
2001-2002: North Dakota (NCAA2): 21.7 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 51.9% 3pt
2002-2003: North Dakota (NCAA2): 26.6ppg, 8.9 rpg, 45.8% 3pt
2003: Portsmouth Pre-NBA Draft Invitational Tournament
2003: drafted by Texas Rim Rockers (USBL,3rd(27))
2003: Drafted by Miami Heat (2rd(33))
2003 July: Orlando Summer League (Miami Heat)
2003-2004: $366,000: Miami Heat (NBA): in Nov.'03 was placed (lower back strain) on the injured list, activated at the beginning of Jan.'04, but later that month was again placed (lower back strain) on the injured list: Regular Season: 2 games: 1.0ppg, 1reb
2004 July: Pepsi Pro Summer League in Orlando, FL (Miami Heat)
2004-2005: Miami Heat (NBA): at the beginning of Nov.'04 was placed on the injured list, in Feb.'05 signed at Sioux Falls Skyforce (CBA,1T): 16 games: 17.8ppg, 9.2rpg, 1.1spg, FGP: 56.1%
2005 June: Chicago Bulls (NBA) minicamp, San Antonio Spurs (NBA) mini-camp and LA Clipper (NBA) mini-camp
2005: Reebok Las Vegas Summer League (Orlando Magic)
2005-2006: Ulker Istanbul (TUR-D1): Euroleague: 2 games: 6.5ppg, left in Nov.'05, then joined CB Granada (ESP-ACB), and in Jan.'06 signed at Polpak Swiecie (POL-DBL,1T): 18 games: 13.4ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.3apg, 2FGP: 59.7%, 3FGP: 34.4%, FT: 55.3%
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Awards/Achievements:
HS McDonalds All-American Nominee -99
NCAA Division II All-American First Team -03
Portsmouth Invitational MVP -03
2003 Daktronics NCAA Division II Player of the Year -03
2003 Bulletin NCAA Division II Player of the Year -03
NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals -04
CBA Western Conference Champion -05
CBA Champion -05
USA National Team -05
Tournament of the Americas (Copa America) in Dominican Rep. -05
Polish Cup Semifinals -06
Polish League Semifinals -06
Eurobasket.com All-Polish League Honorable Mention -06

GATIS JAHOVICS
Height: 202cm / 6'8''
Position: Forward
Born: 1984
Team: Anwil (POL) (2005-07)
Nationality: LAT
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Career / Comments:
Born: August 11, 1984 in Riga
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Outlook:
A forward with great upside, good shooter and good passer.
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Career:
1999-2000: Riga junior team
2001-2002: BK Skonto Riga: 12games 4,83ppg 1,58rpg 0,92apg, Played also in BK Skonto-2(Riga, LBAL): 7 games, 19.6ppg 7.3rpg 4.0apg 2.9spg
2002-2003: BK Skonto (Riga,LBL): FIBA Champions Cup: 8games 4.5ppg 2.8rpg 1.1apg LBL: 21games 5.7ppg 4.7rpg 0.8apg 1.2spg
2003-2004: BK Skonto Riga (LBL,1T): FIBA Europe Cup: 12 games: 6.4ppg, 4.3rpg, 1.8apg, 1.4spg; LBL: 12games 10.5ppg 6.3rpg 2.1apg, in Jan.'04 moved to WTK Anwil Wloclawek (POL-EBL): 16 games: 3.8ppg, 2.8rpg
2004-2005: WTK Anwil Wloclawek (POL-EBL,1T): got injured (knee) in Dec.'04 and was sidelined for 1 month: FIBA Europe League: 9 games: 7.0ppg, 4.0rpg, 1.0apg, 1.6spg, FGP: 50%, 3Pts: 15.8%; Polish League: 32 games: 7.3ppg, 4.3rpg, 1.0apg, 1.4spg, 2FGP: 52.5%, 3FGP: 31.3%, injured in July'05 and was sidelined for five months (Achilles injury)
2005-2006: WTK Anwil Wloclawek (EBL): 19 games: 6.0ppg, 3.2rpg, 1.1spg, 2FGP: 54%, 3FGP: 31.2%, FT: 64.6%
2006-2007: WTK Anwil Wloclawek (EBL)
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Awards/Achievements:
Latvian U17 National Team -99
European Championships U17 -99
Latvian League Finalist -02
Eurobasket.com Latvian League All-Newcomers Team -02
Latvian U18 National Team -02
European Championships U18 in Germany -02
Latvian League Silver Medallist 03
Latvian U20 National Team -03
Latvian National Team -03-04
Polish Cup Finalist -04
Polish League Semifinals -04
Latvian U20 National Team -04
European Championships U20 in Brno -04
Polish League Regular Season Runner-Up -05, 06
Polish League Finalist -05, 06
Eurobasket.com All-Polish League Most Improved Player of the Year -05
Eurobasket.com All-Polish League Defensive Player of the Year -05
Eurobasket.com Polish League All-Bosmans Team -05
Eurobasket.com Polish League All-Defensive Team -05
Polish Cup Semifinals -06

CHRIS HERREN
Height: 189cm / 6'3''
Position: Guard
Born: 1975
Team: Anwil (POL) (2005-05)
Nationality: USA
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Career / Comments:
Born: September 27, 1975
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Outlook:
Good penetrator, who resumed his point guard duties. He can shoot the three, is a tough competitor who uses screens well and is a good defender.
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Career:
High School: Durfee, Fall River, MA
1994-1995: Boston Coll. (NCAA): Played just one game before suffering a season ending wrist injury
1995-1996: Fresno St. (NCAA): redshired
1996-1997: Fresno St. (NCAA): 17.5ppg, 2.3rpg, 4.6apg
1997-1998: Fresno St. (NCAA): 15.6ppg, 2.3rpg, 4.8apg
1998: Declared for the 1998 Draft but withdrew his name
1998-1999: Fresno St. (NCAA): 11.4ppg, 1.6rpg, NCAAAssists-5(7.2apg): Ranks 2nd in assists, 4th in three point fgs made & attempted, 13th in scoring
1999: Desert Classic Tournament
1999: drafted by Denver Nuggets (NBA,2rd(33))
1999-2000: Denver Nuggets (NBA): 3.1ppg, 2.5rpg: Was activated from the injured list on 3/7 after missing 16 games Was placed on the injured list on 2/1 with a left knee strain
2000: Rocky Mountain Revue (Denver Nuggets)
2000-2001: Denver Nuggets (NBA), in Oct.'00 traded to Boston Celtics (NBA): 25 games: 3.3ppg, 2.2apg
2001-2002: Skipper Bologna (ITA-A1): asked to come back to the States in Sep.'01, before the season started, then joined Galatasaray Istanbul (TUR): 9 games: 15.4ppg, 3.1rpg, 2.9apg, 1.6spg
2002-2003: Shougang Beijing Ducks (CHN-CBA): released in Jan.'03: 10ppg 14mpg
2003: Dallas Mavericks (NBA) pre-season camp
2003-2004: Dakota Wizards (CBA): released in Nov.'03, the same month joined Jiangsu Nangang Dragons Nanjing (CHN-CBA): 5.4 PPG, 1.3 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.0 SPG, 57.1 2-PT FG, 20.0 3-PT FG, 51.6 FT
2004-2005: BS|Energy Braunschweig (GER-1.Bundesliga): left in Sep.'04, in Nov.'04 signed at Dakota Wizards (CBA), released next month
2005-2006: In Dec.'05 try-out at WTK Anwil Wloclawek (POL-DBL), but didn't signed bacause didn't pass the medical test
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Awards/Achievements:
First team All-WAC Pacific Division -97,98
Chinese CBA Regular Season Runner-Up -04
Chinese CBA Semifinals -04

Here you have all infos :)
Please tell me why you want his info about they :) ?

the_black_planet
07-02-2006, 06:42 PM
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Thanks a lot Phillip.Just curiosity,also I'm making my 2006-2007 rosters for the euroleague in NBA live and I'm looking for talented players.I follow Jahovic from the youth competition and he was a true leader but his stats in Poland are at least dissapointing.May be he didn't improve as he could...Also I expected more of Beasley,the scouters are very high on him.Herren had a good season in GalataSaray a couple of years ago.I remember him from video games and he looked nice.Is he a true PG.Why he failed to be signed by Anwil.Does he suffer important injuries.Pls tell me your personal opinion about them.Are they a good option for a euroleague club?Thanks.

PHILIPeurobasket
07-02-2006, 06:48 PM
:):):):):):):):):)

Thanks a lot Phillip.Just curiosity,also I'm making my 2006-2007 rosters for the euroleague in NBA live and I'm looking for talented players.I follow Jahovic from the youth competition and he was a true leader but his stats in Poland are at least dissapointing.May be he didn't improve as he could...Also I expected more of Beasley,the scouters are very high on him.Herren had a good season in GalataSaray a couple of years ago.I remember him from video games and he looked nice.Is he a true PG.Why he failed to be signed by Anwil.Does he suffer important injuries.Pls tell me your personal opinion about them.Are they a good option for a euroleague club?Thanks.


the_black_planet what can I say...I know that Herren has problems with injury and also with alkohol & drugs. In first day in Wloclawek he go on disco and fight with security :D Very hard player ....

Jahovics is great prospect. He has dangerous injury, but now all is OK, and in upcoming season I think he will be a key player in Anwil.

Beasley has bad start, but great finish in Polish league. He is center but he run like PG to all actions, he also very good play in defence.

Good talented players are also Krzysztof Szubarga (Polpak), Kamil Michalski (Anwil) and Lukasz Koszarek (for now without club) ...

If you want talk and have more infos please write on my mail [email protected] :)

woma
07-02-2006, 06:54 PM
Dear PhillipEurobasket and woma,I wrote before about it but probably you didn't notice.Can you give me some info about some players that pleyed in Polish League this year?I mean Jerome Beasley,Chris Herren and Gatis Jahovic.They are alla good talent but I don't know how they are at this stage of their career.Did they played well in Poland?Do you consider them able to compete in stronger leagues?Thanks.
Jerome Beasley is a nice offensive threat, but his basketball IQ is low and I can't see him playing on higher level than low level spanish/italian club.
Gatis Jahovics is a nice prospect if somebody would look for a defensive SF, his offense basically consists only putbacks after offensive rebounds or fastbreak points, but he is a good defender and plays with a lot of heart and energy. He still has 1 or 2 more years on his contract with Anwil Wloclawek. It's hard to predict his future, but if he will work on his offensive game and at the same time will keep his defensive intensity and skills, he can develop into Aigars Vitols kind of player, which is not bad...
Chris Herren was a great player a few years ago, but now is a broken person and for me his career is over. I don't think there is any sense in writing more about his demons, but he really has some serious problems...

Edit: I read Philip opinion about Beasley, and he forgot to mention that he works for his polish agent, so this change his perspective a little bit...

PHILIPeurobasket
07-02-2006, 07:02 PM
I read Philip opinion about Beasley, and he forgot to mention that he works for his polish agent, so this change his perspective a little bit...

What You mean? Arek Brodzinski and I was his agent in Poland ...

woma
07-02-2006, 07:10 PM
What You mean? Arek Brodzinski and I was his agent in Poland ...
You should really go back to school...

That's exactly what I wrote. Because of this, you are not neutral in opinion about Beasley, especially when you did write that he is a good defensive player. His defense is a joke.

PHILIPeurobasket
07-02-2006, 07:15 PM
woma everyone agent write only good words about his player ;) Beasley has problems with defence, but 6.6rpg is good result. Woma but you must say that in attack he was one of the best players on his position. In offence Beasley was very fast, and good (2FGP: 59.7%)...

Btw: woma I wait when you will write to me on my GG communicator - number 1565454...

woma
07-02-2006, 07:23 PM
woma everyone agent write only good words about his player ;) Beasley has problems with defence, but 6.6rpg is good result. Woma but you must say that in attack he was one of the best players on his position. In offence Beasley was very fast, and good (2FGP: 59.7%)...

Btw: woma I wait when you will write to me on my GG communicator - number 1565454...
Yah, but you didn't tell "The_Black_Planet" that you works for Beasley agent...
And rebounds are only one of the few elements of being a good defensive player - if he is a good rebounder, you should write that he is a good rebounder, and not a good defensive player.

Regarding me contacting you via GG - you will be waiting, and waiting, and waiting...

PHILIPeurobasket
07-02-2006, 07:27 PM
Yah, but you didn't tell "The_Black_Planet" that you works for Beasley agent...


haha you are funny...and what will now happen? :D What do you have for it? Are you from Police, FBI or something other?
you are so funny :D

woma
07-02-2006, 07:45 PM
haha you are funny...and what will now happen? :D What do you have for it? Are you from Police, FBI or something other?
you are so funny :D


You don't understand. If I would ask for example "Matiz" about his opinion about Stipe Modrić (for example), he would probably reply and write about him. If he would be Stipe Modric agent (or he would be Stipe Modric family :)), I would like to see him mention it, since then I would know that even if he would try, he can't be neutral, since he is writing about his own player (or his own family member).
End of story.

stuart
07-03-2006, 04:02 PM
I'm glad you guys can turn every thread you involve yourselves in into a huge pissing match.

No, really, I am really happy about it, and I took a poll of all the IBN members, they love it too.

closed.

Stuart