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rusher
09-29-2007, 10:53 AM
So, there are couple of days left so I decided to continue the tradition and to create new BBL thread.

BBL Elite League:

Vilniaus Lietuvos Rytas (LTU)
Kaunas Zalgiris (LTU)
KK Siauliai (LTU)
Klaipedos Neptunas (LTU)
ASK Riga (LAT)
BK Ventspils (LAT)
Riga Barons/LMT (LAT)
Valmiera/Lāčplēša Alus (LAT)
Tartu Rock (EST)
Tallin Kalev/Cramo (EST)

BBL Challenge Cup:

Techasas Panevezys (LTU)
Kedainiu Nevezis (LTU)
Vilniaus Sakalai (LTU)
Suduva-Arvi (LTU)
Kaunas Aisciai-Atletas (LTU)
Alytus (LTU)
Liepajas Lauvas (LAT)
VEF Riga (LAT)
Bumerangs/ASK (LAT)
Triobet/Dalkia (EST)
Fausto Tartu (EST)


Teams will play each other two times during the regular season and two best Elite league's clubs will advance straight to the final four, meanwhile 3-8 places are going to show off for quarterfinals. 9'th place team of the Elite division will have play-offs consisting of two games (at home and away) against lower league's vice-champion. The winner advances to the quarterfinal.

The last place team of the Elite league will be eliminated, while the Challenge Cup's winner substitutes it on condition that it meets the SEB BBL requirements.

Quarterfinals system

Pair A: SEB BBL Elite league's team 3 - Challenge Cup's team 1
Pair B: SEB BBL Elite league's team 4 - Play-off winner
Pair C: SEB BBL Elite league's team 5 - SEB BBL Elite league's team 8
Pair D: SEB BBL Elite league's team 6 - SEB BBL Elite league's team 7

In quarterfinals clubs will play 2 games. The lower-seeded team plays first game at home. Second match will be held on higher-seeded team's court. Winners advance to the semifinals.

Semifinals system

Pair E: Pair A winner - Pair D winner
Pair F: Pair B winner - Pair C winner
Semifinals have the same priciple as the quarterfinals.

Championship's prize fund - 75 000 euros.


First games:

Elite Division (all times GMT+02:00)

2007-10-02 Lietuvos Rytas vs Siauliai 19:45
2007-10-03 Barons/LMT vs Zalgiris 19:40
2007-10-04 Valmiera vs Lietuvos Rytas 18:30
2007-10-05 Rock vs Zalgiris 19:00
Neptunas vs Siauliai 18:00
2007-10-06 Valmiera vs Zalgiris 17:00
Lietuvos Rytas vs Kalev/Cramo 16:10

Challenge Cup

2007-10-02 Nevezis vs Liepajas Lauvas 18:00
Aisciai/Atletas vs Bumerangs/ASK 18:30
Techasas vs Alytus 18:00
Sakalai vs Suduva/Arvi 18:30
2007-10-04 VEF Riga vs Fausto 19:30
2007-10-06 Nevezis vs VEF Riga 17:00
Alytus vs Sakalai 17:00
Bumerangs/ASK vs Techasas 17:00
Liepajas Lauvas vs Aisciai/Atletas 17:00

rusher
09-29-2007, 11:10 AM
At the start of the season probably mediocre Lithuanian clubs will be superior to other clubs from Latvia or Estonia because their championship has already started but big clubs could struggle like last year when at the start of the season Zalgiris won Kalev in close game and ASK menaged to beat Lietuvos Rytas at home. Zalgiris doesn't look convincing at the moment because it's still the start of the season. Their first game is against Barons, club which also is still searching for it's game after buying 7 new players this year so i don't think they could pull up a surprise already in Arena Riga on 3rd October. Valmiera will most probably be crushed by LR and I think of them (and Neptunas who play terrible in LKL) as the 9th and 10th team of the Elite League.

As for Challenge Cup, I think of Alytus, Suduva, Bumerangs and one or both Estonian clubs as outsiders. Nevezis will probably win it, though two young and fresh teams VEF Riga and Aisciai Atletas could for the 1st place and LBL 4th place winners Liepajas "Lauvas" has strenghten it's roster too.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-29-2007, 12:15 PM
I see there are 4LIT and 4LAT teams in 1st bbl right now, how do these get determined? is it the best from BBL chalenge cup getting into BBL elite, or is the number of teams per country determined in some other way? (as far as I remember Lithuania had more clubs than Latvia some time ago)
We've got huge issues about that in adriatic league, that's why I am asking :)

LuDux
09-29-2007, 12:43 PM
I see there are 4LIT and 4LAT teams in 1st bbl right now, how do these get determined? is it the best from BBL chalenge cup getting into BBL elite, or is the number of teams per country determined in some other way? (as far as I remember Lithuania had more clubs than Latvia some time ago)
We've got huge issues about that in adriatic league, that's why I am asking :)

http://www.bbl.net/index.php/ZnVzZWFjdGlvbj1zdGFuZGluZ3Mudmlldw==

rusher
09-29-2007, 02:01 PM
I see there are 4LIT and 4LAT teams in 1st bbl right now, how do these get determined? is it the best from BBL chalenge cup getting into BBL elite, or is the number of teams per country determined in some other way? (as far as I remember Lithuania had more clubs than Latvia some time ago)
We've got huge issues about that in adriatic league, that's why I am asking :)

It's simply based on what results achieved clubs last year in BBL. LR and Zalgiris were nr.1 and nr.2, Ventspils 3rd, Sauliai 4th, then ASK and Kalev who lost the semi-finals for competing in final 4, then the rest higher placed teams were Barons, Valmiera, Rock and then there was one wild card, in my opinion, they gave it to Neptunas because 3rd Estonian team would be too weak for Elite League and in Latvia we had our own issues when Lauvas won Valmiera for the 4th place in championship and they wanted the place in BBL Elite but league accepted Valmiera because at the moment they had fulfilled necessary requirements and Lauvas couldn't because they had less money and too old and small arena. But this year they are building new arena and they have better sponsors too.

All in all, at the start of the BBL Latvian and Estonian clubs were at the bottom and if it would be the first year now, we would all (except Ventspils) play in Challenge Cup. Fortunately our society, fans (sponsors) couldn't stand losses to Lithuanians so domestic basketball started to improve, not only buying more foreigners but also our domestic league was reformed and club's owners were forced to have more youngsters of 19-23 years who still haven't really found their game to participate so they don't leave basketball and go work somewhere. This year our U-18 won bronze in EC, most of the team was from ASK, Barons and Ventspils farm clubs so Baltic League really improved our basketball and i hope if our teams will continue to grow that someday this league could be useful not only for Siauliai and lower Lithuanian teams but also for Zalgiris and LR too. Last year Rytas lost to Latvian clubs twice and this year I hope Zalgiris too will lose at least one away game let's say against ASK cause it's the leader now in Latvian basketball :D

Endym
09-29-2007, 02:38 PM
BC Kalev:

PG Parmer, Sokk
SG Kriisa, Arbet
SF Pelkic,
PF Kangur, Keerles, Toome
C Reed, Viiask


Tartu Rock:

PG Tsintsadze, Leppik
SG Kullamäe, Doronin, Aab
SF Tein, Paade, E.Dorbek
PF Sestokas, Talts
C Cusworth, Allingu

Kalev is still searching PF/C after Vuksanovic injury who probably will not play with them. But they still have solid squad, i belive Arbet will be also used as SF.

I like Rock more. They have good american center Cusworth (213cm, played summer league with Warriors team), good players for every position. And they have very good coach (Kerde).

rusher
09-29-2007, 04:24 PM
BC Kalev:

PG Parmer, Sokk
SG Kriisa, Arbet
SF Pelkic,
PF Kangur, Keerles, Toome
C Reed, Viiask


Tartu Rock:

PG Tsintsadze, Leppik
SG Kullamäe, Doronin, Aab
SF Tein, Paade, E.Dorbek
PF Sestokas, Talts
C Cusworth, Allingu

Kalev is still searching PF/C after Vuksanovic injury who probably will not play with them. But they still have solid squad, i belive Arbet will be also used as SF.

I like Rock more. They have good american center Cusworth (213cm, played summer league with Warriors team), good players for every position. And they have very good coach (Kerde).

How come ''Rock'' lost to Liepajas "Lauvas'' recently?

Btw, Barons few minutes ago won their ''Reval Hotel Barons'' trophy in Arena Riga beating ASCO Slask 81:69

Šķēle 26+6 R (3P - 3/3), Gustas 15+6 R (2P - 4/4, 3P - 1/1), Hlebovicki 12, Bērziņš 7, Alexander 6+5 R, Stewart 6+12 R, Vaikulis 4, Kravčenko 3, Adomaitis 2

matisvijs
09-29-2007, 06:45 PM
Barons backcourt Gustas-Šķēle looks real solid this season. If they can find some decent players at forward spots and in center, they could do some serious damage to ASK, Ventspils or even Rytas. :D

pablonis
09-29-2007, 08:13 PM
Although some latvians may disagree (fools hope), first two spots were decided before the season even began but a fight between ASK, Ventspils, Barons and Siauliai should be interesting and unpredictable. I'm also glad to see BBL getting stronger:

two euroleague top16 calibre teams and atleast 4 average/above average uleb cup level teams, with others also gaining some strengh

rusher
09-29-2007, 08:39 PM
Barons backcourt Gustas-Šķēle looks real solid this season. If they can find some decent players at forward spots and in center, they could do some serious damage to ASK, Ventspils or even Rytas. :D

Forwards and centers look experienced this year, we have two universal players PF/C - Bērziņš who I hope will continue to grow as a player, he can shoot from every position, good 3-point shooter, Alexander who averaged 13.9 ppg in ACB and who is also PF/C and can shoot from everywhere. As a center we have very experienced Kebu Stewart with experience playing for big European clubs in the past, very athletic, last year with Crvena Zvezda, another forward is a starter of AEL Limasol- Michal Hlebovicki (husband of our ladies NT player who is now in Italy) from Cyprus last year. Limasol was pretty good last year in FIBA EuroCup and he has played in Barons in the past so it looks he will be good 6th or 7th player. And we also have as forwards Dainius Adomaitis from Gravelines, also with lots of experience, in past though, in Euroleague and NT and we have Brūniņš who played in Poland last year.

Now it's a mixture of experienced tall men and speed and willingness to play of our youngish backcourt. If our experienced men don't get injuries than I believe this team might have a chanse of getting LBL gold this year. But ASK still will be a team to beat and we can't forget about BK Ventspils.

PS: I think I will call Demetrius Alexander as "Alexander The Great" if he will play in Barons as good as in Cajasol last year.
Someone even made a movie for Youtube about him- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjV1YYyinUU

It will be interesting when he meets his former teammate Hollis Price from LR now, who gave him those brilliant passes back there.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-29-2007, 10:39 PM
btw. what is the situation in Ventpils like? I do understand that some latvian clubs are getting more ambitious lately than Ventpils does, but they've signed ex-Olimpija's coach, Okorn... so I'd be glad if someone could explain how things are looking there so far because of that, I haven't yet created a clear opinion on Okorn in this short period, but I do think he might have some promise to become a good coach one day...
eventhough it's only preseason we're talking about :)

rusher
09-30-2007, 08:46 AM
btw. what is the situation in Ventpils like? I do understand that some latvian clubs are getting more ambitious lately than Ventpils does, but they've signed ex-Olimpija's coach, Okorn... so I'd be glad if someone could explain how things are looking there so far because of that, I haven't yet created a clear opinion on Okorn in this short period, but I do think he might have some promise to become a good coach one day...
eventhough it's only preseason we're talking about :)

Well, Ventspils budget still isn't lower than any other year, maybe even a litle bit bigger. It's the other two clubs (Barons and ASK) that continue to improve their finansial situation. ASK has dreams of Euroleague somewhere in the future, Barons don't want to stay 2nd best in Riga so they keep developing. Ventspils simply has not so much money as ASK and even maybe as much as Barons this year.
Okorn wants his team to play defensive basketball more, as new foreigners they have Baxter and Gilchrist, Baxter hasn't played yet but Gilchrist looks to be solid at the moment. Also they'll have one player of Nigerian citizenship as a center (probably Akingbala from LEB). Okorn's trainings are really hard so maybe because of that team has played not great recently, but at the end they also have managed to beat Siauliai, some Ukrainian and Russian league clubs and yesterday they destroyed AEL Limasol so I think it'll be ok with Ventspils when the season really starts. They also have some of the brightest Latvian next generation talent but will they become important players this year, we'll see.

rusher
10-02-2007, 05:31 PM
Nevezis - Liepajas "Lauvas" 58 : 60 ( 18–19, 10–16, 18–16, 12–9 )

Nice start for Lauvas beating one of three leaders of LKL at the moment. Only interesting fact that Lauvas shot only one free throw in this close game:D Must be really weak offensive team or Nevezis were good on defense.


Techasas - Alytus 79 : 56 ( 28–16, 15–19, 20–9, 16–12 )

Urbonas + international (American) brigade beats Janisius and his teammates!

Aisciai Atletas - Bumerangs Gulbene 84 : 75 ( 24–18, 20–12, 19–28, 21–17 )

Not so bad game and result, if young and unexperienced Gulbene improves their game maybe they could beat some teams and not stay in the last places of Challenge Cup

Sakalai - Suduva Arvi 97 : 86 ( 24–23, 23–26, 24–13, 26–24 )

Sakalai, in my opinion, did what they needed to do. To win pretty equal team at home. And they did it. Sinica with 30 points and some good percentage for the winning team!

Gytaz
10-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Lietuvos Rytas - Šiauliai 80:72 (23:22, 17:19, 22:8, 18:23)

„Lietuvos rytas“: Kenan Bajramovic 17 (3/3 3pt), Martynas Gecevičius 16, Mindaugas Lukauskis 15, Marijonas Petravičius 14, Chuck Eidson 9 (6 assists), Andrius Šležas 3, Michailas Anisimovas 2, Hollis Price 2, Artūras Jomantas 2, (Matthew Nielsen, Simas Buterlevičius).

„Šiauliai“: Donatas Zavackas 17 (3/3 3pt), Antonio Grant 13, Darius Pakamanis 9, Saulius Kuzminskas 7, Vaidas Pauliukėnas 7, Artūras Masiulis 6 (7 rebs), Tomas Rinkevičius 4, Mantas Ruikis 4, Aurimas Kieža 3, Gediminas Maceina 2.

Hollis Price was injured during the match but will be able to play on thursday.

Afraid
10-03-2007, 05:38 PM
is the game between Zalgiris and Barons broadcasted via internet, or in any latvian television??

Basket_
10-03-2007, 05:54 PM
is the game between Zalgiris and Barons broadcasted via internet, or in any latvian television??
Latvian LTV7 is broadcasting the game.

Basket_
10-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Zalgiris, in Riga without T.Beard won against Barons 102:80 (21:19, 21:24, 25:12, 35:25)

here's box score:
http://www.bbl.net/index.php/ZnVzZWFjdGlvbj1nYW1lcy5tYWluJmdfaWQ9MTA1Mw==

rusher
10-04-2007, 09:22 AM
Zalgiris, in Riga without T.Beard won against Barons 102:80 (21:19, 21:24, 25:12, 35:25)

here's box score:
http://www.bbl.net/index.php/ZnVzZWFjdGlvbj1nYW1lcy5tYWluJmdfaWQ9MTA1Mw==

Barons still is in terrible shape. Was in Arena Riga at this game. First half Barons was leading and it ended with +1for Barons after the half time. Then, in the 3rd period some problems stertet, players played too individually, i didn' see any team game, passing to our tall players, team quickly came down to -16 as Zalgiris three pointers started to come in. Nontheless team came back, Muiznieks did some corrections and till the 35th minute it was back to -7 for Barons. But Zalgiris continued to shoot ''terribly'' acurate from three-point line (due to the very bad defense from Barons also though), so afterwards Gustas, Hlebovicki and later Skele started to ''save the game'' and didn't play team basketball. They were punished for that, team was punished. Somehow it got to -22 for Barons. I don't know what to say, if there weren't last 5 minutes I would say that team looked not so bad at all but....

Muiznieks was angry, he is rarely really angry and he wasn't THAT angry today too but he said that team played as it should play only one quarter and playing good only one quarter against Zalgiris surely isn't enough to hope for something, he didn't like last 5 minutes of the game too. He didn't understand why team simply lost it, ok game was lost but we shouldn't lose our defense, our attack and we shouldn't allow 102 points in a process.

Still many things to improve, at fighting spirit because you can't build a entirely new team in a weeks time. Friday's LBL game with ASK Riga should bring some improvement. I don't see us winning it but at least if players aren't ready to play as a team yet then maybe some fighting qualities would be prefarable.

sashikas
10-07-2007, 03:40 PM
Žalgiris played agains Valmiera yesterday and won 91:78.

The game had an incident, when the arrived Žalgiris fans lounched petards after the game. That wasn't very appreciated by the hall security, and they decided to take them away. The security wasn't allowed to get to those fans, so security decided to buckle one of the fans - our fellow Joker (http://forums.interbasket.net/member.php?u=98) . Then Goran Jurak, Mantas Kalnietis and Marko Popovič got out of the locker room and saved him from the crawls of the security and brought him with them.

source - an article with the headline Team + Fans = Unity (http://www.esports.lv/basketbols/06102007-fotogalerija_komanda_fani_vienotiba)

Photo's from that article for those, who do not want to get into the source page:

http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47885992/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard011.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47885994/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard021.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47885996/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard031.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47886001/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard051.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47886005/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard081.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47886008/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard091.jpg

rusher
10-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Žalgiris played agains Valmiera yesterday and won 91:78.

The game had an incident, when the arrived Žalgiris fans lounched petards after the game. That wasn't very appreciated by the hall security, and they decided to take them away. The security wasn't allowed to get to those fans, so security decided to buckle one of the fans - our fellow Joker (http://forums.interbasket.net/member.php?u=98) . Then Goran Jurak, Mantas Kalnietis and Marko Popovič got out of the locker room and saved him from the crawls of the security and brought him with them.

source - an article with the headline Team + Fans = Unity (http://www.esports.lv/basketbols/06102007-fotogalerija_komanda_fani_vienotiba)

Photo's from that article for those, who do not want to get into the source page:

http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47885992/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard011.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47885994/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard021.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47885996/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard031.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47886001/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard051.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47886005/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard081.jpg
http://content2-foto.inbox.lv/albums47886008/barons6/komanda-fanivienotiba/Clipboard091.jpg

Unfortunately our security don't like petards in our halls, and sometimes there are some sucurity guys who tend to get even violent when they don't like something

ASK Riga - Neptunas 96:67 ( 26–18, 26–10, 18–13, 26–26 ) (http://www.bbl.net/index.php/ZnVzZWFjdGlvbj1nYW1lcy5tYWluJmdfaWQ9MTA1OQ==)


After an overtime thriller in LBL game- Riga derby (ASK won it again, thanks to 2 Millage's free throws in the last second with 100:99), ASK had its debut in BBL against Neptunas, there were some 2000 spectators only this time and Arena looked empty, not like in the previous showdown. At first, ASK had difficulties but soon they found their game and after the half time it was all clear (52:28), in the third period margin of the score started to become sth from +32 +34 and the third quarter ended (70:41), in the fourth quarter reserves came in, including Freimanis and Bertans and they didn't manage to gain +30 or 100 points though but non the less, convincing win. Only one problem- Vilums got injury and he's out for 6 months. First loss in ASK's roster.

After the game Butautas said ''We cared about the quality, not the result today. I am satisfied that guys played as if it was a close game and displayed professional attitude. Unfortunately Vilums injury is probably serious - he is a very tough guy so judging by his reaction it does not look good (OUT FOR 6 MONTHS). ''
Head coach Rudis of Neptunas said that " ASK Riga is a great team that will achieve a lot this season and I wish them to do so. We are a team of different level, our budget is three times smaller. Our task this season is to keep the spot in Elite division.''

SO NEXT TWO GAMES TOMORROW:

Rock - Siauliai (Will Rock prove that they can beat 4th strongest BBL team at home or not)
Valmiera- ASK (Will Valmiera continue to lose in BBL or they'll find some quality at home to beat LBL champions)

PHILIPeurobasket
10-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Zalgiris, in Riga without T.Beard won against Barons 102:80 (21:19, 21:24, 25:12, 35:25)

here's box score:
http://www.bbl.net/index.php/ZnVzZWFjdGlvbj1nYW1lcy5tYWluJmdfaWQ9MTA1Mw==

Barons buy good player, they have moneys, but everyone after this game see that they are not so strong - defeat with Zalgris, who play without Beard that's sound not good for future :( Bad info, because I like this time - in Barons play players who was very close with Poland - Skele, Adomaitis, Hlebowicki, Stewart :)

rusher
10-09-2007, 09:41 AM
Barons buy good player, they have moneys, but everyone after this game see that they are not so strong - defeat with Zalgris, who play without Beard that's sound not good for future :( Bad info, because I like this time - in Barons play players who was very close with Poland - Skele, Adomaitis, Hlebowicki, Stewart :)

Two days after this game they lost to ASK Riga in LBL game by 99:100 in overtime (These two teams can't win either without an overtime or with higher margin than +1 and this time there were both cases). I still think that referees helped ASK to win the game but ok). In my opinion when they'll play more games and get used to each other (because team is practically new, diferent from the last season, different players, different game strategy) the results will be good.

C-ka
10-10-2007, 01:20 PM
Barons buy good player, they have moneys, but everyone after this game see that they are not so strong - defeat with Zalgris, who play without Beard that's sound not good for future :( Bad info, because I like this time - in Barons play players who was very close with Poland - Skele, Adomaitis, Hlebowicki, Stewart :)
Yes, losing to Zalgiris bad news for Barons...:rolleyes: Zalgiris almost always plays its BBL games without some major players and Beard's absense is nothing so important in a Barons game..

greystone
10-14-2007, 03:38 PM
www.takeforum.com/bbl

a new Basketball baltic league forum - made by WindCliff (Estonia). This forum created today - everybody join please :)

Demarr
10-14-2007, 03:49 PM
Kalev is trialing Slovenian power forward Igor Jokic. He haven't impressed me so far. Jokic looks very slow and against Pärnu (one of the weakest teams in KML) he scored only 2 points and got fouled out.
Nate Johnson is also on trial-period. He plays both, pointguard and shootguard spot. He made it to the LA Lakers, but got released soon. He got earlier experience of playing in Europe. In 2005-2006 season he played in SerieA for Cantu. He had 8.3 ppg, 2.1 apg and 2.5 spg. After that he played in USA leagues like USBL.

In few weeks Estonians own sport channel will start working, named Kalev Sport.
That means more basketball for us :D

rusher
10-14-2007, 09:02 PM
In few weeks Estonians own sport channel will start working, named Kalev Sport.
That means more basketball for us :D

Luckily in Latvia this year the broadcaster is LTV7 so we'll see lot more games, even those played during the primetime for tv's. Today it was ASK-Barons, two days later- Ventspils- LR
About today's game- ASK-Barons 77:62, both teams had a lot of mistakes but Barons were worse in shooting, terrible percentage so the loss, could not be so heavy if not the last minute's trying to save the game that couldn't result in anything good for Barons. Gustas plays terrible even for Barons at the moment, Skele played with injury, Alexander looked better today but still not that good, Adomaitis for a change played well too but defense is still his weak point (don't know why), for ASK Valters and Millage were flying, as well as Broyles. If they continue to play like now, they could be trouble for Zalgiris or LR too. Barons still need to improve their game. I hope they'll improve it!

Buducnost PG
10-25-2007, 01:59 PM
Can somebody give me some information about the game of Vladimir Stimac? His stats are great for a player that is 20 years old. He played well against the big teams in this league. So perhaps somebody who watched him playing this year can write something about him.

Demarr
10-26-2007, 12:46 PM
BC Kalev signed Croatian player Mateo Kedžo.

2006/2007 - KK Split - NLB League: 26 games: 15.1 ppg (2PT 59.7%, 3PT 40%, FT 89.1%), 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg, 1.1 spg, idx. 15.7; 29:38 mpg. CRO A-1 League Stage 2: 14 games: 8.1 ppg (2PT 56.9%, 3PT 36%, FT 87.5%), 4 rpg, 0.6 apg, 1.1 spg; 22:49 mpg.

rusher
10-27-2007, 07:13 PM
Can somebody give me some information about the game of Vladimir Stimac? His stats are great for a player that is 20 years old. He played well against the big teams in this league. So perhaps somebody who watched him playing this year can write something about him.

He's surely talanted player. Main force for Valmiera team. He belongs to Zalgiris so probably next year he'll be playing for them if not go to NBA draft. He's a great rebounder and big threat under the basket. Not very tall as a center but quick, massive and aggresive. Today he played against another good big man- Brian Cusworth from Rock and he did a great job neutralising him, he wasn't that good today but neither was Cusworth too. Anyway Tartu Rock won 83:69

Barons won Ventspils today too in a close game. Finally some improvement from rather dissapointing team so far. They have won last two games and next they play against Rytas so I don't think 3rd victory in a row will come to them in Baltic League but anyway, some improvement. Alexander starts to show some of his best quality, Ventspils tried to stop Skele today but he scored 15 points anyway, Berzins was a key factor in this game with important three pointer in the end of the game and then two subsequent blockshots that eliminated even the smallest hopes of Ventspils to win the game. As for Ventspils, one of the worst seasons so far, maybe even not because they are so weak but because of Baltic (and Latvian) level of basketball which is increasing. Now we see teams that do not play in Baltic Elite division giving hard times to teams like Ventspils and ASK in Latvian League. So it's not like Baltic League is the only challenge our teams face this year. I think, two teams in LBL are already slightly better or the same level as Valmiera.

Troll
10-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Stimac does have a lot of potential to be great in Europe but i think hes a little short for hes position to make it in NBA.
I expected more from him against Tartu Rock but Rock did theyr homework and shut him down.

rusher
10-28-2007, 05:27 PM
Stimac does have a lot of potential to be great in Europe but i think hes a little short for hes position to make it in NBA.
I expected more from him against Tartu Rock but Rock did theyr homework and shut him down.

Well, he was playing against Cusworth. ASK Riga or Rytas also have good centers but they didn't concentrate on him so much because these are teams of different class. And only Stimac and Bankevics can score regularly and big for Valmiera and Rock really did a great job shutting them down

Demarr
10-29-2007, 08:24 PM
Kalev/Cramo signed Howard Frier (193:G). Last year he played for Polpak Swiecie (POL-DBL) where his stats were 8.7ppg, 2.5rpg, 3.1apg, 1.6spg.
In 2005-2006 season he played for Kalev, so fans know him very well.(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XCbhh41va8)
The contract with Mateo Kedzo is also signed and the Croatian player is in very good physical shape.

elaj
10-29-2007, 08:30 PM
Kedžo is a steal for a team like BC Kalev/Cramo. I really like him, huge body, can play inside but also has some nice shooting touch, all what needs is a bit more experience.

How long did Kalev/Cramo sign him for?

Demarr
10-30-2007, 06:59 AM
It should be 1 year contract, but im not sure. Frier and Kedžo should play today in BBL match vs Neptunas. Kalev finally found themselves a right guy after Vladimir Vuksanovic got injured and Igor Jokic turned out to be a real disaster.

Demarr
10-30-2007, 07:20 PM
Kalev made me sweat again :mad: We were -17 behind and lost halftime 43-30. I don't know what Veselin Matic told to the players, but second half we really geared up. We managed to beat Neptunas and the final score was 83-73. Once again I had to admit myself that there's only one Travis Reed - he had perfect night today with 26 points and 10 rebounds.
Mateo Kedžo had fairly good debut - 17 points (3pts 7/4). The team defence isn't still working as it should be, it is really worrying me because next week we have to face Panionios in ULEB Cup. I still don't like Marlon Parmer, he just isn't typical pointguard. He started the game, but after 6 minutes he got benched and didn't play. I think that the team plays better without him than with him.

Some moments of todays game - http://213.35.156.10/etv/30102007_kalev_neptunas.wmv

Troll
10-30-2007, 08:47 PM
Kalev rely is strugling right now they won today but the gameplay was very bad. Without Kedzos 3 pointers in 1st half i think Kalev wouldnt have been abel to stay close enough to comeback and win. I would still prefere that he spend more time under the basket than the 3pnt line tho.
Marlon Parmer is almost useless he dribbles all the time, takes an amazingly long time to cross halfway line and makes idiotic decisions. He may have some use as a sub to come in and just run at opponents, get them to make fouls but he should never be used as a PG.
Unless Kalev improves at a very fast rate i dont see them having any chance 1st ULEB game

Demarr
10-31-2007, 05:28 PM
Brian Cusworth (Rock),Travis Reed (Kalev/Cramo), Vladimir Stimac (Valmiera), Armands Skele (Barons/LMT), Dwayne Broyles (ASK Riga), Paulius Jankunas (Žalgiris), Matthew Nielsen (Lietuvos Rytas) and Antonio Grant (Šiauliai) are BBL candidates for Player of the Month.

Mayo
11-02-2007, 02:53 AM
Brian Cusworth (Rock),Travis Reed (Kalev/Cramo), Vladimir Stimac (Valmiera), Armands Skele (Barons/LMT), Dwayne Broyles (ASK Riga), Paulius Jankunas (Žalgiris), Matthew Nielsen (Lietuvos Rytas) and Antonio Grant (Šiauliai) are BBL candidates for Player of the Month.

Altough i wish Paulius Jankunas would win it,Vladimir Stimac is the one who deserves it the most to be honest,he has been incredible for Valmiera so far

rusher
11-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Altough i wish Paulius Jankunas would win it,Vladimir Stimac is the one who deserves it the most to be honest,he has been incredible for Valmiera so far

I'd go for Šķēle (if Barons would've won Neptunas what they simply NEEDED to do) because he is a great player but it's the team that's not that great to give him additional honor.

Demarr
11-02-2007, 08:03 PM
I'd go for Paulius Jankunas. 1) His shooting been almost perfect (2pts - 77.3%; 3pts - 80%; FT - 100&). 2) His team been very successful (3 wins out of 3 games). 3) His other stats are very good aswell.
Stimac been playing very well too, but I believe it is easier to score for Valmiera than Zalgiris. So again, I'd pick Jankunas.

rusher
11-02-2007, 10:55 PM
I'd go for Paulius Jankunas. 1) His shooting been almost perfect (2pts - 77.3%; 3pts - 80%; FT - 100&). 2) His team been very successful (3 wins out of 3 games). 3) His other stats are very good aswell.
Stimac been playing very well too, but I believe it is easier to score for Valmiera than Zalgiris. So again, I'd pick Jankunas.

Yeah, probably he would be the one who has deserved it. Last Valmiera game against Rock where they stopped him pretty good for me is a good argument not to give this title to Stimac (because it was an important game for Valmiera if they think about victories).

Btw, there is one Russian training with BK Ventspils at the moment and Valmiera is trying out Curtis Nash from France- ProB League.

This weekend two important games for 2 best Lithuanian and two best (at the moment, at least) Latvian clubs. ASK Riga will go for a victory, even despite these terrible problems with injuries and Millage being injured and even despite Butautas anger to whoever made BBL calendar as bad for ASK. He is so angry because tomorrow is the game against Zalgiris and monday in Riga is the big ULEB Cup opening match where all the ULEB officials will be present (it's some kind of replay of ASK- Akademik finals of European cup in the beginning of sixties) so for the city of Riga this is very important and Butautas is mad because now he need to play with full force with Zalgiris and then there's not much time to prepare for this ULEB ''show''. Anyway, ASK Riga ambitions this year are high, they still lack the budget numbers of Zalgiris and LR but now they are clearly in the 3rd place in BBL and next year could equal the numbers of big Lithuanian clubs (They said they could do it already this year but wanted to go step by step). So giving the fact that no Latvian club since the independence hasn't won Zalgiris this gives the additional expectations for fans and Butautas can't allow himself to play with teenagers in Kaunas.

The other match Barons- LR on Sunday. Well, this one Rytas should win but i'd like to see one good game from Gustas at last and from Alexander to play the full game, not only when Muiznieks says ''you lazy ass, start to pl-ay!'' :D I would like to see good performance from Barons throughout the game, not only in one half or quarter of the game (or no game at all, like run 'n gun in Klaipeda).

Troll
11-03-2007, 03:01 AM
Well i'm looking forward to Reed vs Stimac, should be a good fight. Kalev should win this game but you never know with Estonian clubs, they can go ice cold for 6+min... like Rock did today against Ventspils.

rusher
11-03-2007, 09:44 AM
Well i'm looking forward to Reed vs Stimac, should be a good fight. Kalev should win this game but you never know with Estonian clubs, they can go ice cold for 6+min... like Rock did today against Ventspils.

The problem with Estonian clubs I think is that they have good starting 5 but others simply can't hold the level. And when they start to play then teams who have more equal players, start to dominate the game. The same is with Valmiera, only they have even less good scorers.

Demarr
11-03-2007, 09:58 AM
Kalev's weak spot is rebounding, so we are looking to add one more big man, substitution for Reed. Season is long and even Reed will need to rest. Mateo Kedžo looks very useful and friendly, fans already like him. He is good in both, defense and offense. Kalev still need to improve team offense and defense. Kalev's biggest problem in my opinion is Marlon Parmer. He is ment to play pointguard position, but he just dribbles behind the arc and then makes some illogical move. In game vs Ventspils he scored 28 points, but spectators whistled. In game vs Neptunas, he made some really dumb decisions and coach Veselin Matic called him on bench. Kalev managed to win second half 53-30 with Marlon Parmer on bench. Teamwork is better when Marlon Parmer is on bench. Also, Parmer can't play defense. Kalev needs to beat Valmiera today.

Demarr
11-03-2007, 05:54 PM
Kalev beat Valmiera 85-77. Like usually we couldn't get it going and lost first quarter 13:26.

Valmiera's 3pts percentage was 56.5% (13/23), Kalev's was 50% (7/14). Kalev made only 6 turnovers.
Travis Reed poured 21 points, Marlon Parmer 15 and Kristjan Kangur 12 points. Kangur also added 7 rebounds.
Ingus Bankevics had 19 points for Valmiera. Big and furious center Vladimir Stimac dominated the boards and got 19 rebounds. He also poured 15 points.

Demarr
11-17-2007, 01:52 PM
Bit offtopic but can any Latvian help me :(

What is this hall called? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEwcNpywmSo
And this hall too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSreOMNCP4E&feature=related?

Would be very grateful to person who would end my agony by answering this question. :p

sashikas
11-18-2007, 03:39 PM
Just few minutes ago a match between Žalgiris and Kalev/Cramo finished and a team from Kaunas managed to loose to estonians at home 91-92. Popovič has missed a free throw that could bring the game to the overtime. Congrads to estonian fans.

Demarr
11-18-2007, 03:46 PM
Just few minutes ago a match between Žalgiris and Kalev/Cramo finished and a team from Kaunas managed to loose to estonians at home 91-92. Popovič has missed a free throw that could bring the game to the overtime. Congrads to estonian fans.

Actually, some sources say that BBL Online was wrong and Kalev lost by 1 point - 91-90.

Most dissapointing thing is that BBL Online is even more pointless than Euroleague online. What's the point of ''online broadcast'' if it doesn't let you observe first half and from the second half it shows you the wrong score.

Congratulations to Zalgiris and it's fans.

Mayo
11-18-2007, 05:38 PM
Zalgiris won 91-90.The score was 90-90 with 2 seconds left,then Reed(?) fouled Popovic who stepped to the line.He made the 1st one and missed 2nd one on purpose.Popo made 6/10 three pointer.Michael Bradley was very good again with 11 points 9 rebounds but got injured in the last quarter,and it seems that its pretty serious.He was helped off the field by his teammates.
I hope this injury is not too serious,we really,really need him now with Eurelijus out and no T.

Troll
11-18-2007, 06:22 PM
good game :)
Kalev has rely started playing good lately, i think they should have taken it easy today with Zalgiris and save energy for tuesday vs G.Canaria but hopefully they can handle it. I wonder whay Arbet didnt play... hopefully hes not injured, cause we need him.

Demarr
11-19-2007, 05:21 AM
Zalgiris won 91-90.The score was 90-90 with 2 seconds left,then Reed(?) fouled Popovic who stepped to the line.He made the 1st one and missed 2nd one on purpose.Popo made 6/10 three pointer.Michael Bradley was very good again with 11 points 9 rebounds but got injured in the last quarter,and it seems that its pretty serious.He was helped off the field by his teammates.
I hope this injury is not too serious,we really,really need him now with Eurelijus out and no T.


At the end, Popovic was surrounded by Kangur and Reed and refrees saw foul there. Anyway it was really good game and Kalev started playing very good lately (wins over ASVEL and Panionios, close loss to Zalgiris).

Troll
11-24-2007, 04:38 PM
Kalev lost to Barons 87-88... not going to say anything about the referees as every knows in BBL home team, home referees and more times than not in a close game they do everything to help the home team win, only time it goes differently is with a lucky last sec shot.

Demarr
11-24-2007, 05:06 PM
http://etvsport.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=5051 - everyone can decide, whether there was a foul or not.

rusher
11-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Kalev lost to Barons 87-88... not going to say anything about the referees as every knows in BBL home team, home referees and more times than not in a close game they do everything to help the home team win, only time it goes differently is with a lucky last sec shot.

Oh shit don't tell me :D
If there is a game in Estonia or in Lithuania against Siauliai for Latvian teams and we lose it by a small margin everyone here says that home referees are guilty. Ok, maybe and just maybe It's truth in this case too as in others and I agree something should be done about it, anyway Barons as always got themselves into deep shit, they were playing good until some last minutes and then... OK

rusher
11-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Bit offtopic but can any Latvian help me :(

What is this hall called? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEwcNpywmSo
And this hall too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSreOMNCP4E&feature=related?

Would be very grateful to person who would end my agony by answering this question. :p

It's the same old Daugavas sporta nams, ASK play there when they can't play in Arena Riga. Before Olympic center Riga (Barons play there when they can't play in Arena, also VEF Riga) and Arena Riga was built, many games of Latvian basketball in Riga were played there.

Richey666
11-28-2007, 10:16 PM
The problem in BBL for Estonian teams, is that while Estonian referees try to whistle honestly (although sometimes their level is not that good) than Latvian and Lithuanian referees are way more likely to whistle the way their own countrymen want.
Last year Estonian referee whistled a very questionable foul against best Estonian player Martin Muursepp in last seconds Rock-Panevezhys game, when Rock was leading by one in the most critical game of the season. Because of this honest whistling Rock was out of the playoffs. Never seen or heard such thing happened in Latvia/Lithuania with their referees.

It's the same with police. Several foreigners have told me, that they've had no problem bribing Latvian and Lithuanian police for 10-20 euros, but Estonian police is tough like Germany's and some got into big trouble because of bribery. and it was big surprise, cause they thought, coming from south, that all Baltic countries are similar. Well they're not.

worldaudit.org shows, while Estonia is quite not corruptionfree yet, it's way ahead of southern neighbours.

http://www.worldaudit.org/corruption.htm

Demarr
11-29-2007, 05:41 AM
The problem in BBL for Estonian teams, is that while Estonian referees try to whistle honestly (although sometimes their level is not that good) than Latvian and Lithuanian referees are way more likely to whistle the way their own countrymen want.
Last year Estonian referee whistled a very questionable foul against best Estonian player Martin Muursepp in last seconds Rock-Panevezhys game, when Rock was leading by one in the most critical game of the season. Because of this honest whistling Rock was out of the playoffs. Never seen or heard such thing happened in Latvia/Lithuania with their referees.

It's the same with police. Several foreigners have told me, that they've had no problem bribing Latvian and Lithuanian police for 10-20 euros, but Estonian police is tough like Germany's and some got into big trouble because of bribery. and it was big surprise, cause they thought, coming from south, that all Baltic countries are similar. Well they're not.

worldaudit.org shows, while Estonia is quite not corruptionfree yet, it's way ahead of southern neighbours.

http://www.worldaudit.org/corruption.htm

In my opinion, the police was wrong example. It got nothing to do with the basketball, or does it?

Demarr
11-30-2007, 07:27 PM
Estonian sport channel ''Kalev Sport'' will show live Rock - Rytas game on saturday.

Richey666
11-30-2007, 11:41 PM
Estonian sport channel ''Kalev Sport'' will show live Rock - Rytas game on saturday.

not live, recorded i am afraid. game starts 4pm, says BBL.net , Kalev Sport shows it 7 pm.

rusher
12-01-2007, 11:40 AM
The problem in BBL for Estonian teams, is that while Estonian referees try to whistle honestly (although sometimes their level is not that good) than Latvian and Lithuanian referees are way more likely to whistle the way their own countrymen want.

Say it to Barons and Ventspils fans after their games against Siauliai at home when both teams had to win the games comfortably and were leading by +7 to +10 but lost in the last seconds with -1. Some said after that game that Latvian referees help everybody except Latvian clubs. Of course, Estonians have the right to say otherwise after such a game like Barons- Kalev.

I can't say bad things about Estonian referees, the worst ones are in Lithuania as Latvians think (not about the professionalism of them but somehow playing in Klaipeda or Siauliai you get either unexplainable offensive fouls (this year Siaulia at home vs Valmiera) or you shoot 15 free throws when your opposition sth like 40 (some years ago important overtime game in Klaipeda vs Valmiera when at the end Valmiera won it and Vairogs scored I think little over 40 or sth in the process) .



Last year Estonian referee whistled a very questionable foul against best Estonian player Martin Muursepp in last seconds Rock-Panevezhys game, when Rock was leading by one in the most critical game of the season. Because of this honest whistling Rock was out of the playoffs. Never seen or heard such thing happened in Latvia/Lithuania with their referees.

Barons, Ventspils last home games vs Siauliai as I said.


It's the same with police. Several foreigners have told me, that they've had no problem bribing Latvian and Lithuanian police for 10-20 euros, but Estonian police is tough like Germany's and some got into big trouble because of bribery. and it was big surprise, cause they thought, coming from south, that all Baltic countries are similar. Well they're not.

worldaudit.org shows, while Estonia is quite not corruptionfree yet, it's way ahead of southern neighbours.

Well, you have very honest and corruption free blood brothers and neighbors like Finland as an example to keep on the right track :)

sashikas
12-01-2007, 01:34 PM
Žalgiris - Ventspils game should be broadcasted in 40 minutes here (http://www.erdves.lt/?lt=1186751981&tv=ltv-WLD-aver.asx&program=1)

LuDux
12-01-2007, 02:08 PM
Say it to Barons and Ventspils fans after their games against Siauliai at home when both teams had to win the games comfortably and were leading by +7 to +10 but lost in the last seconds with -1. Some said after that game that Latvian referees help everybody except Latvian clubs. Of course, Estonians have the right to say otherwise after such a game like Barons- Kalev.

I sometimes get same feeling about Lithuanian referees:D


I can't say bad things about Estonian referees, the worst ones are in Lithuania as Latvians think (not about the professionalism of them but somehow playing in Klaipeda or Siauliai you get either unexplainable offensive fouls (this year Siaulia at home vs Valmiera) or you shoot 15 free throws when your opposition sth like 40 (some years ago important overtime game in Klaipeda vs Valmiera when at the end Valmiera won it and Vairogs scored I think little over 40 or sth in the process) .


Neptunas shot 58 ft's while Valmiera 39. In Valmiera host won by 15 points but Neptunas shot 12 more ft's (32:20) so it could be difference in style
Vairogs scored 33 points including long 2point buzzer-beater to win the game

rusher
12-01-2007, 11:46 PM
Neptunas shot 58 ft's while Valmiera 39. In Valmiera host won by 15 points but Neptunas shot 12 more ft's (32:20) so it could be difference in style
Vairogs scored 33 points including long 2point buzzer-beater to win the game

OK, I didn't really want to write in the same manner as these Valmiera fans who always blame referees but I guess I did not even thinking whether the numbers and facts are true. It's like a tradition there, in Valmiera, to praise the team and blame referees in every situation. There was one funny guy last year who wrote for their home page, it was interesting to read that after every defeat Valmiera had there was the same thing written "Referees killed the game", "Referees support the big budget club" - when they lost to Barons or ASK or "Referees are in favor of amateurs'' when they lost to "Lauvas", it was like a conspiracy theory and every a smalest change in a schedule also was like "BBL/LBL don't like Valmiera, they like bigger budget clubs, how much did they pay to LBL/BBL to get rid of Valmiera". The best part was though at the end of the season when in the quarter finals of LBL Valmiera lost to semi-professional team "Lauvas" and then this guy finally understood that maybe referees aren't the only ones to blame. This year they write much less bull in their page.

Demarr
12-03-2007, 12:37 PM
Candidates for the best player of November:

Kristjan Kangur (Kalev), Travis Reed (Kalev), Vladimir Stimac (Valmiera), Demetrius Darnell Alexander (Barons), Justin Love (Ventspils), Saulius Kuzminskas (Šiauliai), Matthew Nielsen (Lietuvos Rytas) and Marko Popovic (Žalgiris).

C-ka
12-03-2007, 01:59 PM
Is that our refs are the worst, or our teams the best?..:p

Seriously (and I'm not saying I wasn't serious with my first statement), as there are more experienced referees in Lithuania, I'm sure they aren't any worse than LV or EE, also considering the overall basketball level in the countries. I don't believe in the bias either. I don't believe referees would be supporting Siauliai, while most of them everywhere are tend to help smaller teams when playing against Zalgiris or Rytas.

BTW, Some very enthuasiastic voices are coming from braliukas Latvia. :D nothing bad about that though, you have to believe, only humbleness is what I miss from my point of view here...;)

And well the newest UEFA releases about corruption in European football reveals that our cold Estonian brothers are right there among the other two beloved neighbours, considered as suspiciuos countries.

rusher
12-03-2007, 07:34 PM
Is that our refs are the worst, or our teams the best?..:p

Seriously (and I'm not saying I wasn't serious with my first statement), as there are more experienced referees in Lithuania, I'm sure they aren't any worse than LV or EE, also considering the overall basketball level in the countries. I don't believe in the bias either. I don't believe referees would be supporting Siauliai, while most of them everywhere are tend to help smaller teams when playing against Zalgiris or Rytas.

BTW, Some very enthuasiastic voices are coming from braliukas Latvia. :D nothing bad about that though, you have to believe, only humbleness is what I miss from my point of view here...;)

And well the newest UEFA releases about corruption in European football reveals that our cold Estonian brothers are right there among the other two beloved neighbours, considered as suspiciuos countries.

This theme was started by Estonians :D
But it could be so that weaker teams want to win better ones much more and because in Estonia there are weaker teams like in other two countries and in Latvia- weaker than in Lithuania we tend to see help from referees everywhere.
Now I really can't say that there was something wrong with referees in Barons- Kalev game. Barons also is a good team, today 91:64 vs Rock at home. Maybe referees just missed the episode or maybe there wasn't anything. If the referees would want Barons to win they would not give an extra time and would invent some foul for Kalev, in my opinion for Barons to win it in normal time.

Demarr
12-08-2007, 09:19 AM
It will be Estonian derby match today, Rock - Kalev.

Rock is known as a very strong home team - last time they played at home, they made a lot of headache to Rytas. Kalev's situation before the game isn't the best available - many players are injured or very tired. Kangur should play 98% today, Keerles will play if coach allows him. Kriisa is doubtful.
It will be very hot game. ETV will broadcast the game.

Demarr
12-08-2007, 07:04 PM
Kalev lost to Rock 67:70. Reed scored 18, Kangur supported him with 13 points. Kullamäe and Doronin had 14 points each for Rock. The start of the game was very furious, players really fought. Kalev lost the first half 36:34. At the begging of third quarter, Kalev made 12-2 run. Rock found their hero in Kullamae whos two crazy three-pointers soon made it 50:50. During the fourth quarter Giorgi Tsintsadze start dominating. Tsintsadze was the one who scored two free-throws with 15 seconds to go. Frier had chance to save the game for Kalev, but failed. Home crowd started celebrating.
Kalev had really big problems with Rock's zone-defense. Second really big problem would be Marlon Parmer. He is supposed to lead the game, but he dribbles about 10 seconds, then he goes in, jumps in the air and tries to give a pass or make a lay-up (which usually doesn't go in). Kalev would be much stronger if we could get someone instead of Parmer. It isn't normal anymore.

Second half of Rock-Kalev game - http://213.35.156.10/etv/08122007_rock_kalev.wmv

Troll
12-09-2007, 06:24 PM
I agree Parmer should be fired even if hes contract has some release penalty for club, Kalev would be far better off without him. Every time he gets subed in Kalevs game turns into crap... What good is a PG who cant run the team, cant shoot, cant defend, if Kalev dosnt fire him then i'm sure Kalev will lose a lot more games just cause of him.

Demarr
12-13-2007, 01:47 PM
Rock - Ventspils.

Rock is known as very strong home team, but in my opinion chances are 70-30 to Ventspils. Mainly because Rock and Kalev both couldn't get back to Estonia as they planned (there are strikes in Greece). Rock will arrive to Tartu in the night at 02.00 and they are forced to play in the same evening, at 19.00. At the begging Ventspils agreed to move the gameday on saturday, but later they decided that they want to play on Friday. Rock haven't got real problems with injuries, only Sestokas might not be able to help Rock. Goodluck to Rock.

BC Kalev - Siauliai.

BC Kalev is on the verge of blackhole. Big defeats in ULEB Cup and smaller defeat to archrivals Tartu Rock really devastated the team's morale. Atleast Kalev players can have some rest in Greece. Siauliai fought very well vs Turk Telekom, they are also higher on the table in Baltic League, therefore they are favorites in that game. Even though it would be great for Kalev to make a surprise and get the morale high again. The game will be played in Kalev Hall - a quite small hall, but where fans could make the atmosphere superb.
Kalev Sport will broadcast the game.

Demarr
12-14-2007, 06:42 PM
Rock really surprised me by beating Ventspils today. The scoreline was 90-88. Ventspils had chance to tie the score on the last second, but Akingbala missed free-throw's. Cusworth scored 24 points for Rock and Tanel Tein supported him with 20 points. Jimmy Baxter got 23 point for Ventspils.

EDIT: Ventspils coach Gasper Okorn was ejected from the field and sent to the locker room because he showed middle finger to one of the referee's (?).
http://213.35.156.10/etv/14122007_korvpall_turock.wmv

sashikas
12-15-2007, 04:12 PM
Ventspils coach Gasper Okorn was ejected from the field and sent to the locker room because he showed middle finger to one of the referee's (?).
http://213.35.156.10/etv/14122007_korvpall_turock.wmv
If this action was included to the report link is heading to, then it looked like Okorn was showing pointing finger, not the middle one. But his actions surely had to be awarded with the ejection.

Rytas beats Neptūnas by almost 40 point margin. It is notable, that Vilnius' team was playing with their second string players mostly. Neptūnas surely is a huge disappointment this season. I kinda hoped, that after the one they had last year they will become at least a good bronze medal contender in Lithuanian championship.

Žalgiris beats Barons also with quite a large margin and resting their main players 93:66.

Demarr
12-15-2007, 05:12 PM
If this action was included to the report link is heading to, then it looked like Okorn was showing pointing finger, not the middle one. But his actions surely had to be awarded with the ejection.

Rytas beats Neptūnas by almost 40 point margin. It is notable, that Vilnius' team was playing with their second string players mostly. Neptūnas surely is a huge disappointment this season. I kinda hoped, that after the one they had last year they will become at least a good bronze medal contender in Lithuanian championship.

Žalgiris beats Barons also with quite a large margin and resting their main players 93:66.

TV commentator said that he showed middle finger, also some people who went to see match said that he showed the middle finger just a littlebit earlier, so it was off the screen. He also told one of the referee's to f***-off. After the game Ventspils made an official protest.

Kalev beat Siauliai 93-80. Kangur had very good game once again with 25 points and 7 rebounds. Reed had a very usual game with 22 points.
Antonio Grant had also 22 points for Siauliai.
Kalev - Siauliai highlights - http://213.35.156.10/etv/15122007_kalev_siauliai.wmv

C-ka
12-29-2007, 04:12 PM
Zalgiris lost @ Venspils 70-77

DC Collins, Marcus Brown, Micheal Bradley and Eurelijus Zukauskas all didn't play, while Motiejunas got injured in the first quarter so Zalgiris had no center at all for the rest of the game. And yet Zalgiris played too relaxed (as if it was a friendly game:rolleyes: ) except only last minutes, when they just didn't have the luck on offense while seemed tired and slow in defense. Also the same short squad had a game a day before.

Of course it's not so nice to lose to a Latvian team, anyway it doesn't change pretty much anything while the result is quite fair considering the circumstances.;)

rusher
01-04-2008, 01:49 PM
Zalgiris lost @ Venspils 70-77

DC Collins, Marcus Brown, Micheal Bradley and Eurelijus Zukauskas all didn't play, while Motiejunas got injured in the first quarter so Zalgiris had no center at all for the rest of the game. And yet Zalgiris played too relaxed (as if it was a friendly game:rolleyes: ) except only last minutes, when they just didn't have the luck on offense while seemed tired and slow in defense. Also the same short squad had a game a day before.

Of course it's not so nice to lose to a Latvian team, anyway it doesn't change pretty much anything while the result is quite fair considering the circumstances.;)

Historical game for Latvian basketball, for 20 years none of Latvian clubs have beaten Zalgiris in an official game no matter home or away. And I, not being the fan of Ventspils even didn't watch it. And now I would say that I really don't want to watch it.
Of course it's historical background is huge, remembering the times when Broceni lost only in the last seconds playing with Zalgiris that those days was one of the top teams in Euroleague, Ventspils constant good games against Rytas and enexplainably weak games against Zalgiris, ASK's lat year's games home and away, especially that one away game when Millage, if he would score that 3-pointer, would get this win. For Lithuanian basketball it doesn't matter much, for Latvian basketball- a lot.
But this game, Zalgiris playing with half of their full strenght roster and Ventspils that had struggled this year against ASK and Barons....It wasn't the kind of game people would say "Zalgiris was damn good in this game but Ventspils were a bit better". This was another one of both teams sucked. Because Ventspils can't play better and Zalgiris didn't think they need to play better to beat Ventspils.
Some say that nobody will remember what roster Zalgiris had that day, how good were Ventspils players etc. They probably won't remember.
I constantly thought that if Zalgiris were to lose to Latvian club that would rather indicate that club level of Latvian basketball has risen, not that Zalgiris interest about games against constantly weak opponents in BBL has lovered. I guess I was wrong. Latvian basketball is even in worst shape this year than it was the previous year. Yeah, ASK's record in BBL looks solid, almost as LR or Zalgiris but they way they play in ULEB Cup...The way they last to Zalgiris their away game...Still lots of work to do.
I still hope that someday our club will beat Zalgiris when both of the teams will be very motivated and more importantly, both will show great quality of basketball game.

Mayo
01-04-2008, 02:52 PM
http://sport.postimees.ee/030107/esileht/sport/237046.php

Hey can somebody that speaks estonian please translate this article?

It's about the most promising estonian young basketball player.I've seen him play this year for Zalgiris youth team and he impressed me very much.He's the future of estonian basketball imo

rusher
02-08-2008, 11:57 AM
http://www.barons.lv/img/news/bildes/skelepr.jpg
Armands Šķēle signed with Barons/LMT for three more years. Previously there were some rumors he could go to better clubs, the ones that play in Euroleague but he stays in Barons. He said that he likes playing in front of local fans, he likes Barons team and the financial side of the deal was very good too. GM said that Barons has some ambitious goals in the future and sponsors were willing to kee Skele in Riga for three more years and the financial situation is very good and club can continue to develop further. Nobody knows for sure how many he will earn in next three years, some say it could be million euros for three years


http://www.barons.lv/img/news/bildes/batis.jpg
Also Barons signed with J.P.Batista who previously played for Lietuvos Rytas in the Baltic League. It has been said that he will earn the same amount of money per month he earned with Rytas. GM of Barons club said that Nagys was a good player to the team but they wanted someone more aggressive and bigger force under the basket so they waited for Rytas decision to what to do with Batista. Batista will play with number 33 and GM said that hopefully no one else will play with this number till the end of the season (there were three players this year, including Nagys who had played with it before)
Batista said that the first impression of the club was very good, he plays in BBL for the 2nd year so he knows the league and teams. He knows that Barons club has very ambitious plans in the future and it is good that players and coaches had seen him playing for Rytas many times previously and know what he can do.
His debut was yesterday in LBL against Gulbene Bumerangs. Not really a serious and tough game for Barons so all players played good and got their minutes. Batista's playing time was biggest in the team- he played 28 minutes and got 15 points and 8 rebounds.

Demarr
04-13-2008, 09:25 AM
All the Final-Four participants are now known as Barons/LMT and ASK Riga joined Zalgiris & Rytas.

ASK Riga - BC Kalev 79:72 & 62:56. Highlights 1 (http://213.35.156.10/etv/12042008_kalev_bbl.wmv), Highlights 2 (http://esports.lv/basketbols/seb_bbl/video/12042008_1332_kristaps_drikis_ask_riga_-_kalev_cra)

Barons/LMT - BC Siauliai 84:90 & 73:65.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2950/finalfourie9.png