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  • Junior "Gods" That Never Really Made It

    I'm really curious to see how many young players at junior level that never made the career everyone expected.

    Giorgos Diamantopoulos

    http://www.fibaeurope.com/Default.asp?cid={5179A822-D4B1-4476-AD04-EDBC445D6DC6}&playerID=27651&teamID=291&roundID=23 46&compID={2248A846-FA78-40FF-B03C-54B460890F45}&season=1998

    Nikos Pettas

    http://www.fibaeurope.com/Default.asp?cid={5179A822-D4B1-4476-AD04-EDBC445D6DC6}&playerID=25394&teamID=291&roundID=23 11&compID={89EB60F8-7F8F-4FFB-9427-6103055F3511}&season=1997

    Christos Tapoutos

    http://www.fibaeurope.com/Default.asp?cid={5179A822-D4B1-4476-AD04-EDBC445D6DC6}&playerID=30087&teamID=291&roundID=23 68&compID={792A6AB7-C6A6-434B-BEA5-9BF1BC619DB4}&season=2002

    Alexandros Anthis



    Mladen Sekularac

    http://www.fibaeurope.com/Default.asp?cid={5179A822-D4B1-4476-AD04-EDBC445D6DC6}&playerID=24596&teamID=390&roundID=23 11&compID={89EB60F8-7F8F-4FFB-9427-6103055F3511}&season=1997
    Mi imamo svoga boga, on se zove Bodiroga.
    Demetrious "Primo Gavrorum Malleus" Diamantidis

    Thank you for all you have given me. 6*
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Bxh4eYMxw

    Panathinaikos is not just a club. It's a religion.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtWbTZbfkI8

    When the OAKA foundations moved a couple metres
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbFl2mO8E0

  • #2
    Now that you mention it, Aleksandar Čubrilo for Serbia and Josip Sesar for Croatia, I really liked those two.
    Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
    Artificial Nature

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    • #3
      Anyone heard about Gregor Belina?
      i thought so... hedropped 42 on Stackhouse, to stay completely anonimous later...

      otherwise there is quite a list of players that never developed up to the expectations in Slovenia: Milič, Bečirovič, Nesterovič, Hafnar... Gorenc could be included eventough he was a helluwa player at his time...
      Originally posted by Jon_Koncak
      That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Matiz
        Anyone heard about Gregor Belina?
        i thought so... hedropped 42 on Stackhouse, to stay completely anonimous later...

        otherwise there is quite a list of players that never developed up to the expectations in Slovenia: Milič, Bečirovič, Nesterovič, Hafnar... Gorenc could be included eventough he was a helluwa player at his time...
        I think you missed the point.

        You mention players that play for top European clubs or have played in the NBA.
        Mi imamo svoga boga, on se zove Bodiroga.
        Demetrious "Primo Gavrorum Malleus" Diamantidis

        Thank you for all you have given me. 6*
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Bxh4eYMxw

        Panathinaikos is not just a club. It's a religion.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtWbTZbfkI8

        When the OAKA foundations moved a couple metres
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbFl2mO8E0

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rikhardur
          Now that you mention it, Aleksandar Čubrilo for Serbia and Josip Sesar for Croatia, I really liked those two.
          Josip Sesar definately!

          http://www.fibaeurope.com/default.asp?cid={5179A822-D4B1-4476-AD04-EDBC445D6DC6}&playerID=20285&teamID=2168&roundID=2 345&compID={2248A846-FA78-40FF-B03C-54B460890F45}&season=1996

          Aleksandar Cubrilo , not!

          http://www.fibaeurope.com/default.asp?cid={5179A822-D4B1-4476-AD04-EDBC445D6DC6}&playerID=22541&teamID=390&roundID=13 98&compID={792A6AB7-C6A6-434B-BEA5-9BF1BC619DB4}&season=1996
          Mi imamo svoga boga, on se zove Bodiroga.
          Demetrious "Primo Gavrorum Malleus" Diamantidis

          Thank you for all you have given me. 6*
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Bxh4eYMxw

          Panathinaikos is not just a club. It's a religion.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtWbTZbfkI8

          When the OAKA foundations moved a couple metres
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbFl2mO8E0

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          • #6
            Well Australia won the WC for U22 in 1997 with starters like Aaron Trahair and Ben Pepper and players on the bench like Scott McGregor and Frank Drmic. Trahair was a star on the Junior WC in 1995, being selected to All-Star 5 of that tournament, then he never ever made it to OZ NT as a senior. Drmic the Croatian was supposed to be the next Andrew Gaze but he bounced around in European minor leagues and is now an overweight out of shape PF after having started his career as a PG/SG/SF like Dejan Bodiroga. Ben Pepper was drafted in the second round of the '97 draft I think but he can't even crack the OZ NT and never will. Goes to show how being good at junior level can be fool's gold.

            Bradley Sheridan was a star player for OZ team in Junior WC in 1999 and also Young Men WC in 2001 but he is nothing more than a defensive role player in OZ NBL and will never be anything more than that. Andrew Rice was the captain on those teams. He played some Italian A2 ball for a while, but now he can't even start for his NBL team (not sure which one this season).

            Steven Markovic was a star player on the team that won Junior WC in 2003 with Andrew Bogut but he can't get off the bench for Red Star Belgrade. He's not a lost cause yet though. Still time to do something...

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            • #7
              I remember a player, Nikola Dacevic who played one season in Limoge I think but he ended up in Switzerland. I think in one of his interviews when he was 19-20 years old he told that he considered himself better than Michael Jordan!!!!
              Also to refer to the U20 World Cup in Athens 1995, I remember two players, one Nigerian and one from Jordan or Lebanon(I think Jordan), both PF/C, who were considered top college prospects after the tournament and had a few proposals to join colleges in U.S.A. After that they dissapeared. Anyone to give information?
              Also from the same tournament the Lithuanians Jiourkounas(I think) and Marculionis' nephew who considered top prospects at these ages but also dissapeared.
              Last but not least Qatar's Mahmood Raouf who was about to get drafted some years ago but still plays in Qatar i think, although he is considered to be a decent player considering the local level.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OSCAR_SCHMIDT
                Also from the same tournament the Lithuanians Jiourkounas(I think) and Marculionis' nephew who considered top prospects at these ages but also dissapeared.
                1976
                Come on, Lithuania is not that small, Kestutis Marciulionis is not Sarunas' nephew, unless he's hiding it from us. Jurkunas had problems with back and weight, probably because he had to play PF or C in US. Before disappearing they both played in NT and in Zalgiris but were fired in the middle of season. Another god from that generation - Sestokas - too small/perimeter oriented to play PF, too slow to play SF.

                1980
                Donatas Zavackas. Started playing profesional at 16, at 18 was undisputed U18 NT leader. Went to US, broke transfer rules and didn't play 1 season. In 2000 averaged 8 points in EC U20

                1972
                Alvydas Pazdrazdis. Was "next Marciulionis", played in 1992 Olympics, but suffered knee injury
                The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EverGreen
                  I think you missed the point.

                  You mention players that play for top European clubs or have played in the NBA.
                  okay... except Belina (who dissapeared after junior tournaments) true.
                  I was trying to say none of those players I listed never lived up to their potential, maybee mentioning Gorenc or Nesterovič was overeacting a bit, but I still stand for Milič and Bečirovič being "junior gods" that never really made it. At the age of 18 their upside was tremendous, while they turned into good, but still only role players on EL level...
                  Originally posted by Jon_Koncak
                  That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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                  • #10
                    Sorry, I remember reading an article these days in a greek magazine where Kestutis was mentioned as Sarunas nephew.
                    Was Jasikevicius a member of that team (Athens,1995)?
                    I also remember a Russian player, he must be 22-23 years old now, who played for a High School in Canada and considered to be something like Magic Johnson!! 213 cm and he was playing as playmaker most of the time. He was expected to be a lottery pick some years ago but then I heard that he ended up in Russia. Anybody the name?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OSCAR_SCHMIDT
                      Sorry, I remember reading an article these days in a greek magazine where Kestutis was mentioned as Sarunas nephew.
                      Was Jasikevicius a member of that team (Athens,1995)?
                      I also remember a Russian player, he must be 22-23 years old now, who played for a High School in Canada and considered to be something like Magic Johnson!! 213 cm and he was playing as playmaker most of the time. He was expected to be a lottery pick some years ago but then I heard that he ended up in Russia. Anybody the name?
                      Ivan Chiriaev? He was 7'1" and played in some Canadian college, but he is now in Russian league. Philip the Polish guy who runs eurobasket.com should know where he is.

                      Edit: Yes Jasikevicius was a member of that junior team in 1995 but he was not quite the player he would later become. I think he was a late bloomer, and it served him well. Look where Efthimios Rentzias is now? He was the MVP of that tournament.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nemesis 11 (aka Sabas 11)
                        Ivan Chiriaev?
                        Chiriaev played last season for Demon Astronauts Amsterdam (Netherlands) as far as I know.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nemesis 11 (aka Sabas 11)
                          Look where Efthimios Rentzias is now?
                          He retired last year due to injury problems.
                          Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
                          Artificial Nature

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                          • #14
                            He was certainly never in the same league with players like Diamantopoulos or Sesar but once the brightest PG prospect out of Turkish basketball, Orhan Güler (nicknamed "Doctor") surely deserves a honourable mention here. Güler (1.94 m, 1977), a product of İstanbul club Darüşşafaka, first shined in Korac Cup 1998 with Daçka averaging 7.9 ppg and immediately drawing comparisons to Naumoski with his style. That summer, he was the playmaker of the heavy loaded Turkish U22 NT (featuring players like Türkoğlu, Okur, Erdoğan and Tunçeri) that grabbed the bronze in the European Championship for Men '22 and Under' in Trapani (ITA). Güler was one of the leaders in offense with 8.9 ppg, Türkoğlu was the star (12.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg), Okur (5.7 ppg), Erdoğan (5.3 ppg) and Tunçeri (6.6 ppg) were all role players. The year after that, Güler was even more impressive in Korac Cup averaging 18.6 ppg and 4.9 apg with Daçka. In 2000, he made a deal with Ülker, then powerhouse of Turkish basketball, but he was extremely unlucky with several injuries and didn't do much other than warming the bench in Ülker. He spent the 2002 season with Euras Ekaterinburg in Russia before completely disappearing from the basketball scene, last year I was shocked when I realised he was still a pro playing for Al Karkh in IRAQ!

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                            • #15
                              Old timer would be Gunther Behnke of Germany

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