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PHILIPeurobasket
08-10-2007, 11:42 AM
Turow Zgorzelec will play friendly games with Slovenian teams: 12.09 in Ljubljana with Olimipja and 19.06 in Domzale with Helios...

elaj
08-10-2007, 12:15 PM
Turow Zgorzelec will play friendly games with Slovenian teams: 12.09 in Ljubljana with Olimipja and 19.06 in Domzale with Helios...
Thanks! I'll probably go and see both games. ;)

PHILIPeurobasket
08-10-2007, 12:33 PM
Thanks! I'll probably go and see both games. ;)

No problem :) Do you want also other games ? because all will be in Slovenia ...

PHILIPeurobasket
08-10-2007, 12:48 PM
Ofcourse. :)

Benvidspor (7.09, city ???), Olimpia (12.09, Ljubljana), BC Kijow (14.09, city ???), BK Ventspils (15.09, city ???), Darussofaka (17.09, city ???) and Heliosem (19.09 Domzale).

All games will be in Slovenia, but I didnt know all citys :( I hope that this will be not a problem for you :)

elaj
08-10-2007, 12:55 PM
I merged the posts from that topic to this one.

I'll write the stuff I know - dates, results, game reports.

14.09 and 15.09 - Armani Jeans Milano, Benetton, Fortitudo Bologna and Olimpija (Italy)

12.09 - Olimpija vs. Turow Zgorzelec (Ljubljana)
19.09 - Helios Domžale vs. Turow Zgorzelec (Domžale)

Barcelona is also planning to have practice camp in Kranjska Gora (Slovenia) and ofcourse there will be few friendly games with Slovenian teams. This is not confirmed yet.

KK Zlatorog is planning to play on few tournaments (dates unknown yet):

Poreč and Delnice (Croatia) - Zadar, Ural great, Lokomotiv Novosibirsk, Zlatorog

Široki Brijeg (BiH) - Cibona, Split, Široki Brijeg, Zlatorog
Tuzla (BiH) - Crvena zvezda, Budućnost, Sloboda Dita, Zlatorog
Laško (Slovenia) - unknown yet

Elektra Esotech is planning to play on two preseason tournaments, at least one abroad.

21.09 and 22.09 Šoštanj (Slovenia) - unknown yet

I'm sure Slovenian coaches (Okorn - BC Ventspils, Mahorič - BC Kiev, Filipovski - Turow Zgorzelec) will for sure have preparations here in Slovenia.

PHILIPeurobasket
08-10-2007, 07:59 PM
12.09 - Olimpija vs. Turow Zgorzelec (Ljubljana)
19.09 - Helios Domžale vs. Turow Zgorzelec (Domžale)
.

So you will be on this games :) :confused: Do you have maybe a cam :p :confused:

elaj
08-12-2007, 12:19 PM
Preseason of Union Olimpija 2007/2008:

29.8. Zreče (Slovenia) - Union Olimpija – EWE Baskets Oldenburg

1.9. Lignano (Italy) - Snaidero Udine – Union Olimpija

5.9. Ljubljana (Slovenia) - Union Olimpija – Banvitspor (CANCELLED)

12.9. Ljubljana (Slovenia) - Union Olimpija – Turow Zgorzelec

14.9. Caorle (Italy) - Armani Jeans Milano – Union Olimpija

15.9. Caorle (Italy) - Benetton Treviso/Fortitudo Bologna - Union Olimpija

18.9. Ljubljana (Slovenia) - Union Olimpija – Darusafaka (CANCELLED)

19.9. Ljubljana (Slovenia) - Union Olimpija – Slask Wroclaw

23.9. - 24.9. Kranjska Gora (Slovenia) - Turow Zgorzelec, Crvena Zvezda, Union Olimpija, Helios Domžale

29.9. - 30.9. Kranjska Gora (Slovenia) - Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Efes Pilsen, Hapoel Jerusalem, Union Olimpija

There can be changes in dates, etc.

Preseason of Helios Domžale 2007/2008:

5. 6. and 7.09.2007 – Tournament in Poreč (Croatia)
- Helios Domžale
- Dinamo Moscow Region
- Lokomotiv Novosybirsk
- Ural Great

14. 15. and 16.09.2007 – Tournament in Rogaška (Slovenia)
- Helios Domžale
- Cibona Zagreb
- Alpos Šentjur
- Ural Great

19.09.2007 – Friendly in Domžale (Slovenia)
- Helios Domžale
- Turow Zgorzelec

23. and 24.09.2007 – Tournament in Kranjska Gora (Slovenia)
- Turow Zgorzelec
- Crvena zvezda
- Helios Domžale
- Union Olimpija

26.09.2007 – SuperCup - Helios Domžale vs. Union Olimpija

Preseason of Zlatorog Laško 2007/2008:

3.09.2007 (Poreč, Croatia): Zlatorog - Lokomotiv Novosibirsk

4.09.2007 (Poreč, Croatia): Zlatorog - Ural Great

7.-9.09.2007 (Široki Brijeg, BiH): Zlatorog, Cibona, Split and Široki

14.-15.09.2007 (Tuzla, BiH): Zlatorog, Crvena zvezda, Budućnost and Sloboda Dita

21.-22.09.2007 (Laško): Zlatorog, Vojvodina, Sloboda Dita and Darušafaka

23.09.2007 (Laško): Zlatorog - Široki

4.-6.10.2007 (Wloclawek, Poland): Zlatorog, Bnei Hasharon, Slupsk and Anwil

elaj
08-30-2007, 10:32 AM
Union Olimpija played three (unofficial/closed) friendlies so far:

Union Olimpija - Prostejov 76:72
Union Olimpija - Alpos Šentjur 102:64
Union Olimpija - Oldenburg 78:69

Helios Domžale - TCG Mercator 87:61
Helios: Troha 18 (4/4), Zalokar 15, Mihalič 9, Ingram 9 (4/4), Krušič 8, Laškevič 7 (1/2), Zagorc 5 (3/4), Radojičić 3 (2/2), Žerak 2, Moro, Balažic, Tratnik.
TCG Mercator: Ljeko 17 (7/8), Eržen 15 (3/5), Finžgar 7 (1/2), Mezek 4, Skok 4, Murič 4 (-/1), Ljubenovič 3 (-/2), Vodončnik 3, Hartman 2, Jankovič 2, Demšar, Guzelj.

Helios Domžale - Zagorje 91:81
Helios: Žerak 15 (9/10), Ingram 13 (5/8), Laškevič 10, Radojičić 10 (4/5), Zalokar 9, Mihalič 9 (2/3), Zagorc 8 (2/2), Krušič 7 (1/3), Moro 6 (4/4), Krejič 4 (2/2), Troha, Balažic, Tratnik.
Zagorje: Dimnik 19 (5/6), Spesič 13 (5/6), Ambrož 11 (7/7), Dunovič 10 (8/9), Milović 10 (4/4), Adamovič 9 (3/3), Lipovšek 3 (1/1, Percel 2 (2/2), Mišič 2 (2/2), Savinovič 2 (2/2), Jesenovič 1 (1/4), Vukalič.

Geoplin Slovan - Zagreb 67:78

elaj
09-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Snaidero Udine - Geoplin Slovan 81:64
Snaidero: Penberthy 6, Vetoulas 8, Zacchetti 13, Bosio, Antonutti 13, Di Giuliomaria 18, Maganza 2, Lovatti 1, Sales 4, Pesoli 8, Allen 8.
Slovan: Vesely 12, Bilic, Mlakar 11, Bubnic 6, Dragic 8, Novak 2, Cigoja 6, Samadan 17, Modric 2.

Zlatorog - Alpos Šentjur 84:75
Alpos Šentjur: Kobale 24, Sebič 13, Grušovnik 11, Koštomaj 11, Dragšič 6, Nedeljković 4, Delić 3, Luka Lapornik 3.
Zlatorog: Globovnik, Kos, Smajlovič 2, Horvat 3, Jelesijević 21, Maček 8, Mali 28, Malvik 4, Brčina, Alispahić 7, Nuhanovič 10, Dimec.

Zlatorog - Oldenburg 75:75 (23:12, 7:32, 26:15, 19:16)
Zlatorog: Brčina, Mašić 6 (2:2), *Smajlovič 2, *Horvat, Jelesijević 22 (6:9), *Maček 9 (4:6), Mali 11 (4:4), Malvik 2, Alispahić 2 (2:2), Nuhanovič 23 (5:6).
EWE Oldenburg: Strauch 11 (2:2), *Majstorović 6, *Perković 11 (4:4), Ratkovica 5, Hein, Anastasov 2, *Gardner 10 (1:2), Pauldine 17, Peković 15 (3:3).

Snaidero Udine - Union Olimpija 73:77
Union Olimpija: Bailey 18pts, Graves 16pts+5rbs, Milič 10pts+8rbs+3ast, Močnik 10pts+3ast, Zupan 8pts, Begić 5pts, Dončič 2pts, Taylor 8pts+6rbs+4ast

Joško Poljak Fan
09-01-2007, 09:28 PM
jebote Močnik :eek:
It's still just a preparation period but really didn't expect that, his flaws are obvious but if he keeps up with that, Olimpija got themselves a steal- can't really stay away from being biased ;)

Elaj, do you happen to know who is that Vesely guy? seems I've missed Slovan signing him...

elaj
09-02-2007, 08:35 AM
jebote Močnik :eek:
It's still just a preparation period but really didn't expect that, his flaws are obvious but if he keeps up with that, Olimpija got themselves a steal- can't really stay away from being biased ;)

Elaj, do you happen to know who is that Vesely guy? seems I've missed Slovan signing him...
Jan Vesely (206cm, 1990, PF) - he came from Czech Rep. already in the past season. I heard he was scouted by Olimpija, but then they couldn't somehow get him papers so they asked Slovan to sign him (something like that, probably similar case to Preldžić). U18 EC stats (http://www.fibaeurope-u18men.com/enDivB/Default.asp?cid={E7BA731A-A812-4C5C-9C62-E987CBB10B2B}&playerID=53029&compID={2248A846-FA78-40FF-B03C-54B460890F45}&season=2007&roundID=5539&teamID=2612&), U16 EC stats (http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_f43ulKJBGLcVnbH-aqLVu2.teamID_2612.compID_YUjW-7-FJ,kK9s431Lyr41.season_2006.roundID_4753.playerID_ 53029.html).

Močnik... he will probably have the same role as Hohler in previous season. I doubt he will get any serious playing time with Bailey and Dragič? on PG position...on other hand, I heard Bailey can also play as combo, same goes for Dragič...

Joško Poljak Fan
09-02-2007, 09:14 AM
I remembered now about Vesely :)

As for Močnik, considering Memi showed some trust in young players last season, at least I remember Ambrož and that 16 y.o. guy getting some minutes when Helios was ahead, nevermind they were far from ready to contribute. So I think/hope Memi could do the same at least in adriatic league with Močnik from time to time, I don't have any illusions on him surpassing Dragič or Bailey untill he bulks up...

Joško Poljak Fan
09-05-2007, 11:30 AM
Zlatorog - Sibirtelekom Lokomotiv 77:64 (59:45, 36:32, 19:14)
Zlatorog: Globovnik, Mašić 11, Smajlovič 7, Horvat 7, Jelesijević 18, Maček 9, Mali 7, Alispahić 4, Nuhanovič 14, Brčina.

Sibirtelekom Novosibirsk: Saveljev 4, Baranov 2, Nazarov, Cooper 7, Lobanov, Krivošejev 3, Zemljić 12, Podkolžin 10, Belousov 10, Kirjanov 7, Žukov 4, Belousov 15.

Zlatorog-Ural Great 79:77 (53:48, 32:38, 20:16)
Zlatorog: Globovnik 1, *Mašić 10, *Smajlovič, *Horvat 5, *Jelesijević 17, *Maček 14, Mali 11, Alispahić 8, Nuhanovič 11, Brčina 2.

Ural Great: *Wisniewski 15, *Wright 13, *Bašminov 13, Ševelj, *Biggs 8, Ionov 4, Kamitov, Varlamov, Belov, *Černov 1, Zauzolin 3, Plisnić, Rindin, Koljević 17, Surovcev 3.

not bad games for Zlatorog.

elaj
09-06-2007, 01:04 PM
ALBA – Geoplin Slovan 69 : 66
ALBA: Jeretin, Brown 2, Zwiener 2, Dojčin 17, Jenkins 12, G.Nikolić 10, Thompson 15, Bradley 11.
Geoplin Slovan: Vesely 8, S.Nikolić 2, Mlakar 13, Bubnič 10, Dragić 3, Novak 8, Bilić, Čigoja 4, Šamadan 7, Modrič 11.

;)

boki
09-06-2007, 03:56 PM
Is this Slovan's final roster (+Klobucar)? I hope not, because this year's team looks even worse than last year's IMO with Modric as the only experienced player. It will be tough to collect more wins than last year with this young team.

elaj
09-07-2007, 12:49 PM
Dinamo Moscow Region : Helios Domžale 77:66
Lokomotiv Novosybirsk : Helios Domžale 74:97
Ural Great : Helios Domžale 75:55

Široki Prima pivo - Zlatorog 77:66 (56:52, 39:27, 16:17)
Široki Primapivo: Bubalo, Bulić, Štembergar 19, Perinčić 6, I.Tomas 10, Dijan Župić 11, Šola 1, Špralja 30, Bošnjak.
Zlatorog: Mašić 5, Smajlovič 2, Alispahić, Horvat 10, Jelesijević 11, Maček 1, Mali 17, Pešič 2, Nuhanovič 8, Brčina.

Zlatorog - Split 72:81
Zlatorog: Mašić 2, Smajlovič 2, Horvat 5, Maček 14, Mali 19, Pešič, Alispahić 15, Nuhanovič 15, Brčina.
Split: Car 18, Šumić, Akins 15, Rudež, Delaš 2, Ivanov 20, Siriščević 7, Stipanović 12, Perić 3, Sobin 4.

Helios Domžale – Krka 79:66
Helios Domžale: Moro 17, Laškevič 16, Žerak 9, Krušič 7, Zagorc 6, Krejič 5, Ingram 5, Zalokar 4, Mihalič 4, Radojičić 4, Tratnik 2, Korošec, Troha.
Krka: Marcelić 26, Krivec 12, Sebič 10, Žvan 8, Soldo 8, Mihailovič 2, Cerkovnik 1, Kovačič, Sitar, Koračin, Župevec, Ristič.


Is this Slovan's final roster (+Klobucar)? I hope not, because this year's team looks even worse than last year's IMO with Modric as the only experienced player. It will be tough to collect more wins than last year with this young team.
I heard they are searching for one more playmaker and maybe a center, but it will depend on the budget.

PHILIPeurobasket
09-12-2007, 07:35 PM
Turow Zgorzelec beat today in pre-season game Olimpia Ljubljana 76:73 :) There was any stats from game ...
http://www.ksturow.pl/turow.php?str=1&a=322

elaj
09-12-2007, 10:24 PM
Turow Zgorzelec beat today in pre-season game Olimpia Ljubljana 76:73 :) There was any stats from game ...
http://www.ksturow.pl/turow.php?str=1&a=322
They played closed game, coaches did whatever they wanted, they took timeouts when ever they needed one. They played 45 minutes, after 40 minutes Turow won 77:73, while after 45 minutes Olimpija won 85:82. :)

PHILIPeurobasket
09-13-2007, 02:50 AM
They played closed game, coaches did whatever they wanted, they took timeouts when ever they needed one. They played 45 minutes, after 40 minutes Turow won 77:73, while after 45 minutes Olimpija won 85:82. :)

Ok thanks for this info ;)

elaj
09-14-2007, 11:05 PM
Helios Domžale : Cibona Zagreb 87:81 (17:23, 24:15, 24:25, 22:18)
Helios Domžale: Moro 18 (5/8), Laškevič 17 (5/5), Ingram 16 (2/4) and 9rbs, Radojičić 11 (2/2), Žerak 7 (4/3), Mihalič 5, Krušič 4, Krejič 4, Zagorc 3 (3/4), Zalokar 2, Korošec, Tratnik.
Cibona Zagreb: Hoskin 20 (2/3), Vukušić 16 (4/7), Warren 16 (5/6), Kelley 11 (1/3), Ayuso 7 (1/2), Princ 5 (2/2), Andrić 4, Krasić 2, Kruslin, Zorić, Kaštropil.

Helios played without scorer Troha.

Armani Jeans Milano : Union Olimpija 87:94 (25:17; 45:49; 69:77)
Armani Jeans: Gaines 24, Watson 13, Aradori 4, Gadson 9, Vukcevic 17, Touré 12, Shaw 3, Gentile 5.
Union Olimpija: Dončič 9pts (22min), Rančić 0pts (15min), Močnik 4pts+4ast+2stl (15min), Milič 11pts+7rbs+2ast+5TO (30min), Hukić 7pts (10min), Bailey 14pts+3ast+3stl (32min), Zupan 24pts+6rbs (25min), Taylor 16pts+4rbs+3stl (32min), Graves 9pts+4rbs+3ast+3stl (19min)

AJ Milano without Bulleri and Gallinari, while Olimpija without Dragič and Begič (slightly injured). Rančić seems to be in bad shape.

TCG Mercator - Geoplin Slovan 58:81
TCG Mercator : Ljubenovič 9, Vodočnik 3, Mezek 6, Finžgar 10, Hartman 8, Skok 6, Jankovič 2, Murič, Julevič 10, Leko 4.
Geoplin Slovan: Vesely 12, Nikolić 2, Mlakar 3, Bubnič 14, Z.Dragić 4, Clemons, Jovanović 9, Novak 7, Čigoja 7, Šamadan 12, Modrič 8.

elaj
09-15-2007, 05:03 PM
Zlatorog - Crvena zvezda 83:71 (63:52, 34:37, 17:16)
Zlatorog: Strnad 17 (7:10), Mašić 10 (2:2), Jelesijević 9 (1:1), Maček 14, Mali 11 (4:5), Nuhanovič 16 (6:7).
Crvena zvezda: Marković 5, Kikanović 25 (7:9), Cook 5 (3:4), Kovač 7 (1:2), Bakić 5, Dragičević 22 (9:10).

Zlatorog - Budućnost 73:81 (61:60, 46:48, 24:27)
Zlatorog: Strnad 8 (2-2), Mašić 4 (2-6), Smajlovič 3 (1-2), Horvat, Jelesijević 21 (4-4), Maček 15 (5-Cool, Mali 6 (2-2), Nuhanovič 16 (2-2).
Budućnost: Otašević 3 (3-4), Micov 14 (2-5), Popović 5 (2-2), Gordić 24 (2-4), Peković 5 (5-6), Rakočević 10 (4-Cool, Dragičević 3, Maraš 15 (1-3), Dašić 12 (3-3).

elaj
09-15-2007, 09:39 PM
Fortitudo Bologna – Union Olimpija 70:65 ( 13-13, 38-27, 54-48 )
Fortitudo Bologna: Jenkins 18, Mancinelli 8, Cittadini 4, Torres 2, Lamma, Cavaliero 7, Bagaric 4, Janicenoks 3, Kesicki 2, Chiarini, Thomas 13, Calabria 9.
Union Olimpija: Dončič 9pts (28min), Rančič 0pts (5min), Močnik 2pts (17min), Milič 7pts (26min), Begić 2pts (6min), Bailey 4pts+2ast (32min), Zupan 14pts+5rbs (26min), Taylor 20pts+6rbs+7stl+3ast (35min), Graves 7pts+5rbs (19min).

It looks like Rančič won't stay... he seems to be in bad shape. Two games in a row without points for a SG... Hukić didn't play because of slight injury. Still long way to go untill season starts... also few additions needed (Dragič + C (Barać?) + SG (Rančič? Garnett?)).

Helios Domžale : Ural Great 76 : 82 (20:27, 26:23, 15:14, 15:18)
Helios: Moro 14, Mihalič 13 (2/5), Žerak 11 (1/1), Krejič 8 (1/2), Laškevič 8 (2/3), Zagorc 7 (7/8), Ingram 6, Krušič 4, Zalokar 3 (1/2), Radojičić 2, Korošec, Tratnik.
Ural: Wright 20 (10/14), Koljević 19 (3/3), Wisniewski 13 (3/4), Zotulin 8 (2/2), Ionov 7 (3/4), Khamitov 6 (2/2), Plisničć 4 (2/4), Bashminov 3 (1/2), Chernov 2, Shevel, Diggs, Varlamov.

Moro seems to be playing great!

Alpos Šentjur - Helios Domžale 51:97
Alpos: Kobale 11 (3/3), Nedeljković 10 (6/8), Koštomaj 9 (5/6), Sebič 6 (4/4), Dragšič 5, Lapornik 4 (1/2), Delič 4 (1/2), Pelc 2, Palčnik, Jug, Ribežl, Ferme.
Helios: Radojičić 14pts and 10asists (2/2), Zalokar 13pts and 9rbs (2/2), Moro 13 (3/6), Mihalič 9, Ingram 8 (2/4), Laškevič 8 (2/2), Krušič 7 (1/1), Zagorc 6 (1/1), Tratnik 6, Krejič 6, Žerak 5 (3/5), Korošec 2 (2/2).

Crvena zvezda - Geoplin Slovan 82:64
Crvena zvezda: Marković 3, Kikanović 2, Cook 9, Koval 5, Mišanović 13, Šljivančanin 2, Bakić 5, Dragičević 33, Lukić, Cvetković 2, Aleksandrov 8.
Geoplin Slovan: Vesely 6, Nikolić 2, Mlakar 3, Klobučar 13, Dragić, Novak 12, Jovanović 6, Bubnič 4, Šamadan 7, Modrič 11.

Rudar Trbovlje - Union Olimpija 63:83
Union Olimpija: Dončič 3pts+7rbs+4blk, Bailey 24pts+3ast+7stl, Močnik 4pts+2ast, Mulalič 7pts+2ast, Zupan 19pts+13rbs, Taylor 6pts+3rbs+3ast, Milič 20pts+13rbs+3ast

Joško Poljak Fan
09-23-2007, 09:13 PM
Kelag Wörthersee Piraten (A) – Krka Novo mesto 84 : 81
Piraten: Breithuber M., Husanovič 37, Breithuber Ma. 2, Weber, Kuttnig 12, Mahalbašič 1, Buggelsheim 1, Gavran 4, Schaal 4, Dawson 3, Allesch, Creddle
Krka: Mihailovič 6, Balažič 18, Sebič 7, Koritnik, Soldo 9, Žvan, Marcelič 13, Cerkovnik, Rakočevič 3, Krivec 6, Kovačevič 15, Župevc 3

Elektra Esotech - Dubrava Zagreb (CRO) 80 : 68
Elektra: Dobovičnik 2, Savkovič, Ličartovsky 3, Golež, Kunc 9, Vrečko 24, Jeršin 12, Vidovič 17, Goršek 4, Bogešič 2, Lekič, Šimunič 7
Dubrava: Vragovič 7, Kartelo 16, Šakič 15, Krajačič 14, Biško 5, Perkovič, Samac 4, Barač, Rački, Srdič 7

3rd place
Dubrava Zagreb - Krka Novo mesto 57 : 72
Dubrava: Vragolič 5, Srdič 4, Šakič 11 +12reb, Krajačič 9, Biško 2, Perkovič 8, Samac 5, Barač 2 in Kartelo 11.
Krka: Mihailovič 12, Balažič 4, Sebič, Sorrentine 14, Soldo 8, Žvan, Marcelič 7, Cerkovnik, Rakočevič 7, Krivec 10, Kovačevič, Župevc 10.

finals:
Elektra Esotech - Kelag Wörthersee Piraten 89 : 83 – OT
Elektra: Dobovičnik 3, Savkovič 2, Ličartovsky 8, Kunc 20+10reb, Vrečko 17 +12reb, Jeršin 7, Vidovič 2, Goršek, Bogešič 8, Lekič, Šimunič 22.
Piraten: Allesch, Husanovič 29, Breithuber M. 5, Kuttnig 4, Mahalbašič 3, Buggelsheim 10, Gavran 6, Schaal, Dawson 9, Breithuber Me. in Creddle 16.


Zlatorog - Sloboda Dita 67 : 55
Zlatorog: Strnad 10, Mašić 1, Smajlovič 3, Horvat, Jelesijević 9, Maček 12, Mali 20, Dronjić, Alispahić, Nuhanovič 10, Harris 2.
Sloboda Dita: Halilović, Jahić, M.Milošević 22, Hrnčić 4, Halilbegović, Albijanić 4, Peršić 2, Tanasilović 4, Matić 2, N.Milošević 4, Jacović 2, Ross 11

Zlatorog - Darušafaka 80 : 61
Zlatorog: Strnad 5, Mašić 17, Smajlovič 9, Horvat 6, Jelesijević 19, Maček, Mali 5, Dronjić, Alispahić, Dimec, Nuhanovič 12, Harris 7.
Darušafaka: Yavsaner 5, Evanochko, Senturk 14, Ademoglu, Cipa 2, Selen, Clyne-Heard 10, Guney 1, Brown 17, Erol 5.

elaj
09-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Helios Domžale - Crvena Zvezda 88:92
Helios Domžale: Moro 15, Zalokar, Mihalič, Radojičić 11, Ingram 3, Zagorc 13, Krušič 7, Žerak 6, Korošec, Laskevič 11, Tratnik, Krejič 22.
Crvena zvezda: Marković 5, Kikanović 5, Cook 10, Kovač 8, Mišanović 17, Radosavljević, Šljivančanin 3, Bakić 8, Dragičević 23, Krasnić, Cvetković 7, Aleksandrov 6.

Union Olimpija - PGE Turów Zgorzelec 78:84 - after OT
stats: TBA

Olimpija played without injured Hukić (ready in a week) and Begić (out for few weeks or even a month) and also still need to sign four players. At Turow Harding didn't play.

ArkadiosV2
09-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Is Milosevic of Crvena Zvezda still injured?

PHILIPeurobasket
09-24-2007, 02:27 AM
Union Olimpija - PGE Turów Zgorzelec 78:84 - after OT
stats: TBA

Olimpija played without injured Hukić (ready in a week) and Begić (out for few weeks or even a month) and also still need to sign four players. At Turow Harding didn't play.

elaj you you know boxscores :confused:

Turow is very very strong this year :)

Capitan
09-24-2007, 05:43 AM
We plaied with out Begič and Hukič, we are still waiting for Dragič and we finished game with out C..

I guess Turow is not so good;)

Inspector
09-24-2007, 06:15 AM
This is all I've got: :D

Olimpija:
Dončić 5 pts
Auriantal 2 pts
Močnik 10 pts, 8 ast
Milič 14 pts, 6 reb
Bailey 13 pts, 2 ast
Zupan 15 pts, 9 reb
Taylor 20 pts, 6 reb

Turow:
Logan 25 pts

Joško Poljak Fan
09-24-2007, 10:25 AM
Močnik was a revelation in the 4th quarter, the game clearly didn't develope Olimpija's way, Bailey looked too non-chalant occasionaly, him and Taylor did hold onto the ball too much (without inside-out game that can happen), Dončič was forceing shots when Močnik took the game in his hands, 3pointer, 2 layups breaking Rodriguez off the dribble and another 3pointer 7 seconds to go for a tie.
Hopefully that was just a bad day by Bailey but Močnik far surpassed him with creativity and by than static game of Olimpija got a push up to catch up Turow for a tie and overtime.
In the OT the bad offensive plays continued at some time of the game Dončić was playing C, Milič got himself a technical when he should aknowledge that the referees weren't up to the level of the game and shouldn't blame them really, Dragiša Drobnjak glued on Zupan through the game and Turow got a well deserved victory.
Turow has a nice formidable team, Rodriguez seems to have improved his longrange shooting, Logan is a nice one on one player and loads of usefull guys as Witka, Drobnjak, Kitzinger, Kelati, Ščekić... they've missed their no.1 center reportedly, so that gives them an excuse on why they didn't demolish Olimpija completely in the paint. You can see Filipovski's hand over the team, since there are barely any unrational shots most americans allow themselve to take, they played real team bball. it will be interesting to see what they can do in Uleb cup, i'll be rooting for them.

Olimpija... when there was some energy left with players= 1st half, Taylor, Bailey showed some good athletical abilities at rebounding, overall some good plays by them the only thing I resent to both is that holding the ball in their hands for few seconds untill finaly doing something. Olimpija's offense looked disorganised but I hope we won't be seeing that happening with a complete team. Bailey nailed a phenomenal half court buzzer beater at the end of the 2nd Q, while also getting blocked two times taking it too easy.
That canadian that was on a try out imho isn't worth mentioning, congratulations to whoever his manager is :rolleyes:
overall with lack of inside players it was hard to judge on Olimpija since both Hukić and Begič were missing badly, but it showed Močnik could be a revelation while Bailey and Taylor can play some really nice defense...
if only the finances were ok...

woma
09-24-2007, 05:03 PM
Somebody posted on polish forum that today's final between Crvena Zvezda and Turow game is supposed to air somewhere on slovanian TV. Anybody can confirm it?

elaj
09-24-2007, 05:07 PM
Somebody posted on polish forum that today's final between Crvena Zvezda and Turow game is supposed to air somewhere on slovanian TV. Anybody can confirm it?
SportKlub TV (http://www.sportklub.si/), available only on cabel provider. :(

Union Olimpija : Helios Domžale 99:84 (76:60, 57:37, 34:17)

Union Olimpija: Dončić 3 (0:2), Auriantal 2, Močnik 15 (2:4), Milič 22 (7:8), Zupan 11, Bailey 21 (6:6), Hukić 2, Taylor 15 (2:2), Mulalič 8 (2:2)
Helios Domžale: Moro 15 (3:4), Radojičić 4 (4:6), Ingram 6 (0:1), Zagorc 12 (6:6), Krušič 2, Žerak 5 (1:2), Laškevič 23 (7:9), Krejič 17 (5:6).

Olimpija still without more than half team (without centers (Begič injured) - still need to sign PF/C, C, PG/SG and SG/SF), while Helios is missing also important players in Troha, Močnik and Janža (all of them injured). Olimpija led already by +25 during this game. I hope Mulalič will get his chance in Adriatic League during this season. I heard he has all the tools to become a decent SG/SF in the future. Močnik looks like he's playing in great form.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-24-2007, 09:10 PM
Helios trailed up to 25 in the first half, playing no defense at all. Martič demanded some effort in D in the 2nd half and improvement became visible, but I can't get rid of feeling most of teams Martič leads tend to leak in defense. There is no excuse for the way Olimpija toyed with them in the 1st half. If Olimpija would have one more PF/C able to play this would be a catastrophy for Helios and I don't know if we can expect anything different in supercup on wednesday. Hopefully a more interesting game...

Moro has some nice fundamentals, missed some easy shots at the begining, but I really liked his game. I think he could establish himself as one of the surprises of this season.
Mulalič showed a nice stroke with good release and some effort in defense. I think he might fall out of the roster, but he showed some promise to develope into a useful player.
Močnik is the man... again... If Dragič signs, I am against signing any more players for SG, since Močnik really deserves some minutes both in adriatic league and euroleague. His creativeness lives up the game and he is actually creating for the others as well as finishing around the rim, drawing fouls and so on. Zagorc is no mediocre defender, he did use his strenght advantage in offense once or twice, but still Močnik looked really impressive. Euroleague is questionable due to physical strenght of the opponents, but I think he could play sth. like 10-15 minutes in adriatic league right away...
Auriental won't be signed, he really tried, but it was visible from the plane that he isn't what Olimpija needs.

boki
09-25-2007, 01:42 PM
I also noticed, that Moro has nice potential. Till yesterday I was focused on his stats and he was allways putting around 15-20 points in preparation period. And he played in Koper last season which means there is a quite big step for him this year, but still he is one of the major players in Helios. He is tall, has good speed and ball handle, has both left and right drive to the basket. He missed a lot of shots yesterday but I could tell from his release, that he is a good shooter/scorer. offcourse all his play components have still a lot of work infront, but I think we have a nice SG/SF prospect also for NT in couple of years.

Sky7
09-29-2007, 04:08 PM
maybe there PBP for the game for Maccabi vs Domzale?:confused: tonight

elaj
09-29-2007, 08:26 PM
maybe there PBP for the game for Maccabi vs Domzale?:confused: tonight
Maccabi Tel Aviv - Helios Domžale 94:62 ( 20:14, 48:25, 75:48 )
Stats weren't followed as I know and It was closed game. I'll try to find more.

elaj
09-29-2007, 09:13 PM
Union Olimpija - Hapoel Jerusalem 99:77
Union Olimpija: Hukić 35pts+6rbs+3ast, Taylor 18pts+6rbs, Zupan 15pts+8rbs, Milič 13pts+4rbs+4ast, Dončič 9pts, Booker 4pts+6rbs, Močnik 4pts+4ast, Bailey 1pts+3ast, Anderson, Dragič.

First time for me to see our new Olimpija... I took the time and drive to Kranjska Gora, maybe tomorrow I'll also visit Union Olimpija - Maccabi game in Zreče. ;)

What to say about such game? Olimpija played perfect first half with almost no mistakes. As I know this was Hapoel's first game, so no wonders that Olimpija led already by 33 points on some moments. Olimpija never had any problems with the flow of the game. They started with Zupan, Milič, Hukić, Taylor and Bailey.

Hapoel also started with their best. Arnold looked out of shape, same goes for Shason (both forced many shots), Curry was trying something, but nothing special. Same goes for Blalock. (maybe I mixed them, but all Hapoel's guards looked useless) Hagag was totally confused, while I have to give the credit also to our guards Bailey, Taylor and others who did amazing job in defense. All Hapoel's guards couldn't organise the offense, while they were just standing still and didn't help each other in defense. Their coach and his assistents were runing and yelling on them like crazy.

Olimpija, as I said played an amazing first half, especially Jasmin Hukić who proved to be back in shape with his amazing performance of 35 points. He just couldn't miss, he was unstopable with his fade away jumpers when he faced smaller opponet, same goes for his open triples. Team really played for him today.

Taylor was again fantastic in offense and also in defense, but coach saw that he has to play also Dragič/Močnik/Anderson so Taylor didn't play much. He is a shadow of that Taylor in offense we saw in Slovan (in a good way ofcourse :D). He really worked hard on his mid range and long range shot. I really hope he continues with such performances.

Dragič was out of shape, we could all see that he still needs some time to adapt to new team.

Bailey played for the team, did nice job distributing the ball in offense while he also played quite decent defense. He wasn't forcing his shots or anything. He is quite smart PG who can in my opinion also help as SG on moments.

Zupan again played most of time on C. He lacks size for that position. He did really nice job in defense against Arnold who looked really lost. :) Though at the end Hapoel finally realised that they have to force the ball down low and some points will follow.

Milič had one sicko alley-up with Močnik somewhere in the second quarter when he dunked over poor Markovich. As always vocal leader on court, did many usefull things for the team, Milič as we know him. He even scored a triple, ofcourse all arena started laughing when he did that. :D

I am still surprised how damn usefull Dončič looks for Olimpija at the moment. He again hit few open three pointers, but overall looking I really liked what I saw from him.

Močnik again played quite good, I expect from him more on offensive end, I think with his speed he can outclass almost every PG. He should be using it more often.

Mulalič didn't play much, few minutes but that wasn't enough to see what he is capable of. He seems to be interesting talent with great athletic skills for a SG/SF.

Booker played quite alot due the fact that Olimpija lacks center, but as Rajgelj said few times, he isn't what we were looking for. He can't play with his back to the basket, he perfers shooting from mid rage, but also there he isn't that successful. Though he played quite OK defense.

Anderson had an off night, in offense he couldn't hit an open jumper.

I understand that Hapoel played their first pre season game, but such performance was shameful for such team. They allowed Olimpija to score 63 points if I remember it correctly in the first half (it was 41:23 for Olimpija in first quarter!). I never saw such poor defense by a ULEB Cup team, most of the shots Olimpija took were from well organised actions and were open. Olimpija's team seems to have nice chemistry, they were enjoying the game, laughing... I also have to mention that Bečirovič allows them alot of freedom in offense and today it showed that it's damn useful. They play hardnosed defense, with alot of fastbreaks...

All in all, great game by Olimpija, Huka zlatna ruka is back, while Hapoel didn't impress me with anything. Olimpija really badly need a guy who can defened down low... guards so far really impressed me.

I'll upload some photos I took from warmup and so on...

(offtopic: The funniest moment for me was when I talked with my bro about tomorrows game vs. Maccabi and I mentioned Vujčić and Burstein (that they are injured and won't play etc) and then a Israeli family turned around and asked me in Hebrew if I can speak their language, and ofcourse I was like WTF?, then we started speaking in English and the woman explained me that she thought I speak Hebrew due the fact I mentioned Vujčić and Burstein in my words... :D Anyway, after that I told them that Maccabi plays tomorrow in Zreče... so you Israelis might have some fans there.. :D)

guyOFK
09-29-2007, 09:23 PM
Great reaport Elaj.. hope for another one 2morrow :)

We all shell learn from Elaj how to write games reaports.

Sky7
09-29-2007, 09:39 PM
Hey Elaj my friend this Hapoel Jerusalem :D not tel aviv :o

elaj
09-29-2007, 09:41 PM
Hey Elaj my friend this Hapoel Jerusalem :D not tel aviv :o
Ohh, my mistake, I guess I already had tomorrows game in my mind. :D

few photos from the game as I promised, yeah I don't have a clue how to take a photo... :D

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Sky7
09-30-2007, 01:25 PM
Good Job, BTW You will be in the game against maccabi?:rolleyes:

will you take photos also?:o

Sky7
09-30-2007, 07:28 PM
Hey elaj you was at the game? can you tell something about the game?, dam nice win by Union , BTW if you have photos or something it will be great (:

elaj
09-30-2007, 08:33 PM
Hey elaj you was at the game? can you tell something about the game?, dam nice win by Union , BTW if you have photos or something it will be great (:
I was there... report to be announced. :D

elaj
09-30-2007, 09:06 PM
Union Olimpija - Maccabi Tel Aviv 97:77
Union Olimpija: Dončič 3pts, Močnik 3pts+4ast, Hukić 13pts+5rbs, Milič 17pts+6rbs+4ast, Bailey 7pts+4ast, Zupan 10pts+6rbs, Taylor 19pts+5rbs+2ast, Booker 13pts, Anderson 5pts, Dragič 5pts+3rbs+4ast

I was again crazy enough to take a ride more than 100km to see the game. :D

Olimpija started the game strong with same lineup as yesterday vs. Hapoel, while Maccabi started with Fizer, Eliyahu, Bluthenthal, Halperin and Sharp. Olimpija again played nice defense (really aggressive) and offense with alot of fast breaks and easy baskets. Really a joy to watch. Olimpija already led by +30 on some moments, but I have to say that yesterday vs. Hapoel they played better (Hapoel was also much weaker).

Maccabi on other hand struggeled through all the game, both teams looked abit tired on court due the fact Maccabi faced Helios yesterday and Olimpija faced Hapoel. Maccabi also played without Vujčić, Bynum, Burstein while Garcia isn't there yet if I noticed correctly (or was there, but didn't play).

Fizer played decent basketball, but I have to say the guy has to lose some weight and get better condition. He isn't able to play high tempo game as Maccabi wants to play. He is a natural PF in a body of massive C (really massive!). As I said he needs to lose some weight and get better condition. All in all quite usefull player, good mid-range shot, hits even a triple, strong under the basket, but didn't show good defense down low.

Casspi was totally dominated by Taylor in defense and didn't show much except for some forced shots. Eliyahu played like he wasn't there... while Halperin showed quite nice offense on SG, but he was forced to play alot of PG too.

Morris looked too passive for me, seems to be a guy who has great athleticsem, but as I said he didn't play well. He looked like he didn't understand quite good what coach wanted from him on the court.

Bluthenthal was great. Really the guy who played most consistant from Maccabi players. He did nice job in defense (yeah, he surprised me there!) and was also effective in offense.

Da Rossa didn't impress me, he showed he isn't able to play a center in Euroleague in my opinion. He has a strange shot, looks abit skinny and not aggressive down low... looked very inexperienced.

Cummings... he showed that he isn't used to the team, wasn't able to organise the offense...

Sharp played ok, he did what everybody expects from him, nothing big but damn useful on court. Few times Olimpija's youngster Močnik made fool out of him with those speedy sprints, Sharp's face after those was like "damn, I'm too old for this shit.." :D

Talking about Kattash.. he was quite angry during the game and he didn't surprised me with after the game training for all of the guys... looked quite pissed off.

Olimpija again played same basketball they showed yesterday, aggressive defense and alot of fastbreaks. Milič and Bailey again had nice alley up, Milič finnished it with a dunk over Cummings and a foul.

Booker surprised me, he played really decent defense and made few nice shots. I would consider signing him as a second center. Anderson hit a triple, but seemed lost on court.

Dragič played hellowa defense on Sharp and Halperin, still quite confused in offense. Dončič useful as always. Taylor again impressed with some dunks and really nice mid range game. Zupan played on C/PF, he seems to be in great shape. Hukić was again on fire from three point line, he is back I tell you...

If they can keep playing like this and add this team a decent center as Varda/Popovič this team could be a huge surprise... we will see.

elaj
09-30-2007, 09:20 PM
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Joško Poljak Fan
09-30-2007, 09:32 PM
damn, Fizer really looks massive on those photos :eek:

Too bad this last two games weren't televised, thanks for the reports elaj, much appreciated.

It's good to hear that Olimpija's guards defense wasn't just a coincidance in the past games, the way you described Taylor seemed completely like you'd be describing the games in Kranjska gora.

ffalkec
09-30-2007, 10:06 PM
Tonight Olimpija won against Macabi.

Does anybody have more details abou the game?

Sky7
09-30-2007, 10:10 PM
great Report elaj!

great pics also :)

elaj
10-01-2007, 02:28 PM
Tonight Olimpija won against Macabi.

Does anybody have more details abou the game?
You gotta be kidding right? :rolleyes:

ffalkec
10-01-2007, 10:22 PM
You gotta be kidding right? :rolleyes:

;) hehe, great report

Joško Poljak Fan
10-07-2007, 09:51 AM
Zlatorog - Bosna 77 : 72
Zlatorog: Strnad 8, Mašić 18, Smajlovič, Horvat, Jelesijević 15, Maček 6, Mali 10, Dronjić, Nuhanovič 10, Harris 10.
Bosna: Pašalić 3, Šehović 3, Kovačević 5, Ikonić, Batina 5, Bavčić 9, Đurasović, Hill 11, Bailey 5, Williams 8, Greer 5, Rahimić 18.

Krka - Bosna 89 : 81
Krka: Mihailovič 12, Kovačevič, Sebič 3, Sorrentine 16, Soldo 8, Žvan, Marcelić 7, Cerkovnik, Rakočević 5, Krivec 14, Župevec 3, Balažič 21.
Bosna: Pašalić 5, Šehović 3, Kovačević 13, Ikonić 9, Batina 3, Bavčić 10, Hill 4, Bailey 7, Williams 11, Greer 14, Rahimić 2.

Cedevita – Zlatorog 101 : 97
Cedevita:Bašić 5, Primorac 12, Rimac 22, Čolak 16, Žunić 7, Milačić 4, Filipović 11, Novačić 23.
Zlatorog: Strnjad 16, Mašić 8, Smajlović 1, Horvat 6, Jelesijević 14, Maček 7, Mali 25, Dronjić, Nuhanović 20, Harris.