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Dtown
05-08-2017, 10:43 PM
Probably the most flawed competition going, but I'm rather surprised by no thread. While no NBA, and potentially Euroleague, players will be competing the stakes are still rather high. Aside from this being an entrance into the World Cup, it's also the only way into the Olympics as well.

http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2019/european-qualifiers/groups

Straight forward
05-09-2017, 12:20 AM
A, E, G (and partially B) groups look really competitive.

As for my own country, rather good draw, Poland and Hungary is no match for Lithuania.

okanial
05-10-2017, 10:40 AM
H F seems really easy. We will compete with Latvia for the first spot

R1ou
05-10-2017, 02:14 PM
Seems like one of Slovenia/Latvia/Turkey won't make it to the next round.


H F seems really easy. We will compete with Latvia for the first spot

No group will be easy if Euroleague players decide not to participate.

Obina
05-16-2017, 07:26 AM
Euroleague players will not participate, Bertomeu says.

FIBA lol.

Mindozas
05-16-2017, 02:50 PM
Euroleague players will not participate, Bertomeu says.

FIBA lol.

It's not a final decision, we have to wait till July, then clubs might change their minds, but today I've read Vatutin's interview, he said that none of the clubs wants their players to play, so I guess chances are slim. It's pointless to think what kind of teams we'd have then, cause lot of players will change clubs during summer, but it still would be freaking awful

Obina
05-16-2017, 03:29 PM
Yes, awful. And always FIBA is a problem.

For example Serbia - Jokic, Bjelica, Marjanovic and Zagorac in NBA, probably Bogdanovic and Teodosic. In Euroleague are Jovic, Nedovic, Simonovic, Guduric, Kalinic, Kuzmic, Milutinov, Macvan, Musli and Raduljica.

Our best player will be Stevan Jelovac. :D

Mindozas
05-16-2017, 03:38 PM
Yes, awful. And always FIBA is a problem.

For example Serbia - Jokic, Bjelica, Marjanovic and Zagorac in NBA, probably Bogdanovic and Teodosic. In Euroleague are Jovic, Nedovic, Simonovic, Guduric, Kalinic, Kuzmic, Milutinov, Macvan, Musli and Raduljica.

Our best player will be Stevan Jelovac. :D

Pretty much the same here. NBA and Zalgiris is the core, then Maciulis in Real, Kalnietis in Milan. Coach already called 38yo Ksystof Lavrinovic and he said he'll help if healthy and of course if he won't play in Eurocup again... Probably he'd be our leader :D

Mindozas
05-16-2017, 03:48 PM
BTW, today I've read Vatutin's (CSKA GM) interview, and he said he asked FIBA, what will they do if f.e. France will send 3rd string players and won't qualify at all, FIBA replied - we'll give them wildcard.... :D FFS

Dirtyh
05-16-2017, 07:53 PM
This is becoming U20 competition..

I think that NT is too important in Lithuania and Zalgiris rather play their Euroleague games with youngsters and let their Lith players to play in NT.

Straight forward
05-16-2017, 08:18 PM
This is becoming U20 competition..

I think that NT is too important in Lithuania and Zalgiris rather play their Euroleague games with youngsters and let their Lith players to play in NT.

Good point. At least I can imagine some players wanting to go for it. What would Euroleague do if most or some teams would "tank" couple of rounds? If they would "rest'" some of the players. They could do nothing.

Dreamcatcher
05-17-2017, 02:51 PM
This is becoming U20 competition..

I think that NT is too important in Lithuania and Zalgiris rather play their Euroleague games with youngsters and let their Lith players to play in NT.

In early years maybe, but this season Zalgiris has been close to top8, so i don't think it can happen.

BiHBasket
07-26-2017, 07:50 PM
European Pre-Qualifiers(2 - 19 August 2017)

Group A

- Sweden

- Bosnia and Herzegovina

- Slovakia

- Armenia

Group B

- Netherlands

- Austria

- Albania

Group C

- Macedonia

- Estonia

- Kosovo

Group D

- Portugal

- Bulgaria

- Belarus



Offical site

http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2019/european-pre-qualifiers

Some or all games are avilable on FIBA youtube

BiHBasket
07-26-2017, 08:19 PM
BiH roster for the first match vs Sweden

- PG Alex Renfroe(86') 6'3'' Galatasaray

- PG Adi Zahiragić(95') 6'2'' Spars

- PG Amar Gegić(98') 6'7'' Bayern

- SG Almir Hasandić(90') 6'3'' Sloboda

- SG/SF Nedžad Muratović(95') 6'7'' Sloboda

- SG/SF Edin Atić(97') 6'7'' AEK

- SG/SF Džanan Musa(99') 6'9'' Cedevita

- SF Adin Vrabac(94') 6'8'' Partizan

- SF/PF Aleksandar Lazić(96') 6'9'' Mega

- C Ismet Sejfić(93') 6'10'' Pannon

- C Markus Lončar(96') 7'0'' Široki

- C Obrad Tomić(93') 6'10'' Partizan


We are without any real power forward, seems like Duško Vujošević likes to use Vrabac or Lazić on that position.


Tonight we played preparation game vs Austria. Jakob Poeltl was in their team.

BiHBasket
08-01-2017, 05:31 AM
Swedish 13 man roster for the first match vs BiH(August 2)

- Jonathan Person(93') 6'3'' Uppsala Basket
- Tobias Borg (93') 6'1'' Dominion Bilbao, SPA
- Viktor Gaddefors (92') 6'7'' Juvecaserta, ITA
- Dino Pita (88') 6'4'' Krosno, POL
- Thomas Massamba (85') 6'1'' Södertälje Kings
- Martin Pahlmblad (86') 6'4'' Södertälje Kings
- Adam Ramstedt (95') 6'8'' Södertälje Kings
- Ludvig Håkanson (96') 6'2'' Fuenlabrada, SPA
- Alexander Lindqvist (91') 6'9'' Uppsala Basket
- Nicholas Spires (94') 6'11' Södertälje Kings
- Marcus Eriksson (93') 6'7'' Gran Canaria, SPA
- Tim Schüberg (95') 6'2'' Norrköping Dolphins
- Carl Engström (91') 7'1'' Tartu, EST

Game should be avilable here
https://www.youtube.com/user/basketklipp


All the games at August 2:

(Group A)

Sweden - BiH
Armenia - Slovakia

(Group B)

Albania - Austria

(Group C)

Kosovo - Macedonia

(Group D)

Portugal - Belarus


Seems like Jordan Theodore will play for the Macedonia and some other teams should have interesting American names in their roster.

BiHBasket
08-02-2017, 09:26 AM
Final preparation match for the Austrians

Austria - Georgia 87 : 77


Coach used ten players and they all scored:

Jakob Poeltl 22
Rašid Mahalbašić 19
Bryce Douvier 15
Thomas Klepeisz 11
Marvin Ogunsipe 6
Davor Lamešić 4
Benedikt Danek 3
Thomas Schreiner 3
Moritz Lanegger 2
Jozo Radoš 2

DNP: Guttl, Kramer.


Ryan Boatright will play for Armenia as naturalized player. They also found couple of Americans of "Armenian roots" and they can play regulary for this national team.

BiHBasket
08-05-2017, 10:33 AM
Half of the Armenian team are Americans lol. Slovak Republic coach Ivan Rudež said he doesn't belive they all have Armenian roots.

lemo
08-06-2017, 09:09 AM
Totally agree.

I Searched for them in Wikipedia and found :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Fischer

A.J. Hess

Kris Yanku born in Istanbul !!!!

Did they acquired Armenian passports before they reach 16 as FIBA alleged ?!!!!

BiHBasket
08-06-2017, 09:53 AM
So Vezenkov is playing for Bulgaria.

Hakanson missed first two games for Sweden because of injury, not sure will he recover at time to play some games but with him and Eriksson future of Swedish backcourt looks very bright.

zik013
08-06-2017, 11:38 AM
Totally agree.

I Searched for them in Wikipedia and found :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Fischer

A.J. Hess

Kris Yanku born in Istanbul !!!!

Did they acquired Armenian passports before they reach 16 as FIBA alleged ?!!!!

that wikipedia article doesnt have any information... Fischer MAY have armenian parents/grandparents, we dont know. For example Yanku should have, because armenian commentators were calling him Yanku + some armenian last name ...

BiHBasket
08-09-2017, 11:22 AM
Love the headlines on the Bosnian sport sites on tonight game:

"Armenian national team without any Armenian"

"Armenia, Legion etrangere"

carlo
08-11-2017, 07:31 PM
Final preparation match for the Austrians

Austria - Georgia 87 : 77


Coach used ten players and they all scored:

Jakob Poeltl 22
Rašid Mahalbašić 19
Bryce Douvier 15
Thomas Klepeisz 11
Marvin Ogunsipe 6
Davor Lamešić 4
Benedikt Danek 3
Thomas Schreiner 3
Moritz Lanegger 2
Jozo Radoš 2

DNP: Guttl, Kramer.


Ryan Boatright will play for Armenia as naturalized player. They also found couple of Americans of "Armenian roots" and they can play regulary for this national team.

Boatright represented the (unofficial) team USA at the 2010 U18 Albert Schweitzer Tournament leading his team in ppg/apg and spg. At college he was named All-Final Four in 2014 with NCAA champ UConn and All-Conference in 2015. He also played briefly in Italy in 2016 averaging nearly 20 ppg. A fine player indeed.

BiHBasket
08-13-2017, 02:02 PM
Alex Renfroe is kicked out of Bosnian national team. After the last night home defeat vs Sweden(which puts Bosnia in tough position) he reportedly spent a night partying(and he is a husband and a dad:rolleyes:) with the Bosnian dad - Kenyan mom tv host and model Daniella.

If you wonder how she looks
https://static.klix.ba/media/images/vijesti/170205043.5_xl.jpg?v=3

BiHBasket
08-16-2017, 04:01 PM
BiH roster in today away game vs Slovak Republic, this could be one of the youngest ever in the FIBA offical matches


- PG Amar Gegić(98') 6'7'' Bayern

- PG Darko Talić(98') 6'2'' Igokea

- PG Adi Zahiragić(95') 6'2'' Spars

- SG Almir Hasandić(90') 6'3'' Sloboda

- SF Edin Atić(97') 6'7'' AEK

- SF Džanan Musa(99') 6'9'' Cedevita

- SF Adin Vrabac(94') 6'8'' Tenerife

- SF Aleksandar Lazić(96') 6'9'' Mega

- SF Nedžad Muratović(95') 6'7'' Sloboda

- C Ismet Sejfić(93') 6'10'' Pannon

- C Markus Lončar(96') 7'0'' Široki

- C Obrad Tomić(93') 6'10'' Partizan

BiHBasket
08-16-2017, 06:17 PM
Last game Armenia - Bosnia and Herzegovina will be a direct duel for qualification!

BiHBasket
08-19-2017, 08:28 PM
Qualified teams

Sweden
Estonia
Bulgaria
Netherlands
Bosna and Herzegovina
Belarus
Kosovo
Austria

Out

Slovakia
Armenia
Albania
Macedonia
Portugal


Macedonia, once(literally) a medal contender, what a downfall. Bosnia and Herzegovina avoid that destiny with a strong last game in a Armenia.

Armenia and especially Kosovo had great atmosphere and noisy fans at their home matches.

lemo
08-21-2017, 08:56 PM
Congratulations to Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo .

Bosnia was not supposed to be out of qualifier but not even supposed to be out out of Eurobasket.

Wish you a better future with mixture of Teletovic , Nurkic and Dzan Musa.

Kosovo proved that it will be a strong contender in Europe next few years.

Sad abut Macedonia, hope they will be get better soon.

Very astonished about Sweden and Armenia.

Sweden lost to Bosnia twice in Euro qualifiers and tuned the table in World Cup pre-qualifier.

usagre
09-14-2017, 09:32 PM
Slovenia might win Eurobasket and not qualify for WC.

Here's the 12 European teams I hope qualify:

Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, Latvia
Lithuania, Croatia, Italy, France
Russia, Germany, Serbia, Greece

My apologies to Finland, Czech Republic and Georgia.

R1ou
09-14-2017, 09:40 PM
Here's the 12 European teams I hope qualify:

Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, Latvia
Lithuania, Croatia, Italy, France
Russia, Germany, Serbia, Greece

My apologies to Finland, Czech Republic and Georgia.

One of Slovenia, Spain, Latvia or Turkey can't qualify. Here are the groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIBA_Basketball_World_Cup_qualification_(Euro pe)

usagre
09-14-2017, 09:46 PM
One of Slovenia, Spain, Latvia or Turkey can't qualify. Here are the groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIBA_Basketball_World_Cup_qualification_(Euro pe)

Thanks for clarifying. Sorry Turkey you're out then.

So then like Srle said it is quite possible that Slovenia wins the Eurobasket and because of a tough draw doesn't qualify for the Worlds.

Picek
09-14-2017, 10:16 PM
Thanks for clarifying. Sorry Turkey you're out then.Turkey won't have Korkmaz and Osman from this EB team but will have everyone else.
considering a turk is running FIBA Europe it is hard to believe turkish EL players won't play qualification games.
but of course that remains to be seen.
Latvia will miss Porzingis, Bertans, possibly Timma, Strelnieks etc.
Spain will miss all of their NBAers and majority of the rest.
Slovenia, someone already wrote about them earlier in the thread.
qualifications will be hectic and with EB in four years this qualification system already for this WC could actually change a basketball map of the whole Europe.
qualification, which btw. star in month and a half, will be biblical.

usagre
09-14-2017, 10:20 PM
Turkey won't have Korkmaz and Osman from this EB team but will have everyone else.
considering a turk is running FIBA Europe it is hard to believe turkish EL players won't play qualification games.
but of course that remains to be seen.
Latvia will miss Porzingis, Bertans, possibly Timma, Strelnieks etc.
Spain will miss all of their NBAers and majority of the rest.
Slovenia, someone already wrote about them earlier in the thread.
qualifications will be hectic and with EB in four years this qualification system already for this WC could actually change a basketball map of the whole Europe.
qualification, which btw. star in month and a half, will be biblical.

What a complete shit show. In a way I almost want the United States somehow to fail to qualify in order to bring to light how dumb this new format is.

Jon_Koncak
09-14-2017, 10:29 PM
What a complete shit show. In a way I almost want the United States somehow to fail to qualify in order to bring to light how dumb this new format is.

It's an excellent format which will lead to unpredictable and exciting qualification rounds.

Dtown
09-14-2017, 10:29 PM
Assuming they can even qualify.
I don't think any team is safe to assume they can qualify through FIBA's new farce of a WC Qualification process - especially a small country like Slovenia with limited depth.

Rather scary, aside from Australia (who lock to be a dead lock) I don't think any team is 100% certain to make it. A team like Slovenia missing would highlight that FIBA isn't so much making the World Cup a showcase as it is a bad joke.

usagre
09-14-2017, 10:32 PM
It's an excellent format which will lead to unpredictable and exciting qualification rounds.

Maybe exciting but with guys you never heard of. And to what end ? Isn't the purpose of any qualifying tournament to have the best teams qualify ? That won't be the case if the best players don't participate. In theory creating the home and away games is cool but the timing and in practice it sucks.

usagre
09-14-2017, 10:34 PM
Rather scary, aside from Australia (who lock to be a dead lock) I don't think any team is 100% certain to make it..

If not at 100% then the Usa is at 99%.

Jon_Koncak
09-14-2017, 10:38 PM
Rather scary, aside from Australia (who lock to be a dead lock) I don't think any team is 100% certain to make it. A team like Slovenia missing would highlight that FIBA isn't so much making the World Cup a showcase as it is a bad joke.

each team will give 12 games,for 4 of them NBA players will be available if they want to.

usagre
09-14-2017, 10:43 PM
each team will give 12 games,for 4 of them NBA players will be available if they want to.

I think the actual quality of the games is gonna be low. What preparation time or training will there be ?

Srle
09-14-2017, 10:43 PM
Here's the 12 European teams I hope qualify:

Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, Latvia
Lithuania, Croatia, Italy, France
Russia, Germany, Serbia, Greece

My apologies to Finland, Czech Republic and Georgia.

All major basketball countries should just boycott Fiba until they change this ridiculous competition format. Let Albania,Netherlands, San Marino etc. compete at the Olympic tournament, that would bring the ratings up I am sure :rolleyes:

Jon_Koncak
09-14-2017, 10:50 PM
All major basketball countries should just boycott Fiba until they change this ridiculous competition format. Let Albania,Netherlands, San Marino etc. compete at the Olympic tournament, that would bring the ratings up I am sure :rolleyes:

San Marino doesnt have a basketball national team

usagre
09-14-2017, 10:51 PM
All major basketball countries should just boycott Fiba until they change this ridiculous competition format. Let Albania,Netherlands, San Marino etc. compete at the Olympic tournament, that would bring the ratings up I am sure :rolleyes:

If I am one of these low level countries who normally would never have a shot to qualify I would get like 8 or 9 guys together and just practice as a team for a year straight. Like the old Red Army Soviet hockey team. Put them up in a barracks military style, food, water and basketball. By the time the games start these guys will know each other like the back of their hands and can play together blind folded.

Srle
09-14-2017, 10:55 PM
Our women played their women in the qualification for the women eurobasket , I am sure there is somewhere male NT :) besides, San Marino is just an example, you can throw any NT with the bad rankings and 0 basketball tradition instead of them. Let them compete at world championships, Olympic games , those qualifications are pointless, Fiba will never be at Fifa level.

Jon_Koncak
09-14-2017, 10:58 PM
Well yeah..at FIFA there is no Catalan lawyer highjacking the european competitions along with 11 teams..If you want a strong FIBA stop supporting Jordi and his mafia

Srle
09-14-2017, 11:02 PM
Fiba is not doing nothing to make it any better, they are bad as Jordi. The most stupid thing they could have done was to introduce this new system of competition.

R1ou
09-15-2017, 05:49 PM
What a complete shit show. In a way I almost want the United States somehow to fail to qualify in order to bring to light how dumb this new format is.

Indeed, the format is utter shit and there's no question about it. Talking about Greece f.e it's like B-C tier players who have never played together again, trying to beat Eurobasket sides in full strength like Great Britain and Israel (only minus Casspi) which will not miss any single players in these qualifiers. Same goes for every other team which relies on NBA and EL guys. That's alteration of result. They're trying to boycott their own product.

Picek
09-17-2017, 04:27 PM
for some of us unfortunately EB finished a week ago so I for once had a lot of time to think about the upcoming WC qualification.
after the EB 2017. (final game yet to be played) in two months time the new qualification system will start.
actually it already started during the summer with pre-qualifications for some teams.
Sweden, B&H, Netherlands, Austria, Estonia, Kosovo, Bulgaria and Belarus made it from there.
anyway, no one knows what to expect from the qualifications because of two rounds being played during NBA and EL season which means no players from either league for the rounds in november 2017. and february 2018.
for some teams that will of course be a huge problem and we can expect a lot of surprise results.
teams won't be affected only by players missing but also coaches.
from what we now, after EB Tanjević retired and Montenegro is without a coach, I read somewhere that Missas is no longer Greece coach, Petrović is no longer croatian coach but we already named his successor Ivica Skelin.
even before EB we knew that Messina won't be leading the italian team anymore. Meo Sacchetti is taking over italian team.
Fleming won't be coaching Germany anymore either.
Kokoškov probably won't be leading slovenia as he is an assistant coach in NBA.
anyone else?
first games are being played on november 23. (the same day EL is playing it's round 9) and the second game is november 26.
what we do know is that deadline for the 24 players list is october 6.
a lot of things will be known then but for sure it will be hectic.

Groups are as follows:
Group A
Montenegro
Slovenia
Spain
Belarus

23.11. Montenegro - Spain and Slovenia - Belarus
26.11. Belarus - Montenegro and Spain - Slovenia

Group B
Sweden
Turkey
Latvia
Ukraine

23.11. Sweden - Ukraine and Turkey - Latvia
26.11. Latvia - Sweden and Ukraine - Turkey

Group C
Poland
Kosovo
Lithuania
Hungary

23.11. Poland - Hungary and Kosovo - Lithuania
26.11. Lithuania - Poland and Hungary - Kosovo

Group D
Italy
Netherland
Croatia
Romania

23.11. Netherlands - Croatia and Italy - Romania
26.11. Croatia - Italy and Romania - Netherlands

Group E
B&H
Belgium
Russia
France

23.11. B&H - Russia and Belgium - France
26.11. France - B&H and Russia - Belgium

Group F
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Iceland
Finland

23.11. Bulgaria - Finland and Czech Republic - Iceland
26.11. Iceland - Bulgaria and Finland - Czech Republic

Group G
Germany
Serbia
Austria
Georgia

23.11. Germany - Georgia and Serbia - Austria
26.11. Austria - Germany and Serbia - Georgia

Group H
Israel
Great Britain
Greece
Estonia

23.11. Israel - Estonia
24.11. Great Britain - Greece
27.11. Greece - Israel and Estonia - Great Britain

every game is important as points from first round are being taken to the second round as well. three teams from each group go to the second round.

Jon_Koncak
09-17-2017, 05:20 PM
the old system was broken.Spain or Greece or Lietuva hadnt played in a qualification round for eurobasket since 2003.They'd quailfy to the next tournament by finishing in high positions in the previous (even when Greece flopped at euro 2013 they got a wild card for World Cup 2014 which meant automatic qualification for 2015(!!).All this made no sense and doesnt happen in any other sport.In principal,FIBA windows is a good idea,despite what journalists and coaches who are at Jordi's pay roll want you to believe..I also like how every result counts..there will be some epic battles for those places.

The NBA players problem is a real one and i think 2 more games should be played in dates where NBA players would be available.That'd mean 6 out of 12 rounds with full rosters.As for Jordi and his mafia he knew since 2015 about it and chose the conflict.It's absurd that he thinks he's in NBA's position and he has the same leverage.

Jazz
09-17-2017, 07:38 PM
the old system was broken.Spain or Greece or Lietuva hadnt played in a qualification round for eurobasket since 2003.They'd quailfy to the next tournament by finishing in high positions in the previous (even when Greece flopped at euro 2013 they got a wild card for World Cup 2014 which meant automatic qualification for 2015(!!).

Here's another one. Great Britain qualified for Eurobasket 2013 because they were one of the Olympic participants in 2012. But they only played at the Olympics because they got a wildcard as hosts and ending up winning just one game. :D

Dtown
09-17-2017, 07:54 PM
Personally I think you could have solved a lot of issues just by moving more of the windows into July-September. You may not have gotten everyone's A team, but you would have gotten at least B teams for everyone.

If you take out the issues with NBA/Euroleague, I actually quite like the idea behind the qualifiers. Solves the nonsense wild cards FIBA used to give out, and gives teams actual home games that matter (can't wait for Greece/Finland/Serbia home games).

But it's impossible to ignore teams will have c and d level teams ( if not worse) for the bulk of this competition.

Italian Pride
09-17-2017, 10:52 PM
what we do know is that deadline for the 24 players list is october 6.
a lot of things will be known then but for sure it will be hectic.

Where did you read abot deadline?This list will b only for this window or for all he first round of the qualyfing round?

BiHBasket
09-17-2017, 10:53 PM
With the zero Euroleague players anyway, BiH shouldn't be worried.

We are looking for a new American for our team.

Most of the guys from our young pre -qualifications team should be there again.

Coach Vujošević said he is counting on those three experienced players who missed pre - qualifications: Andrija Stipanović, Elmedin Kikanović, Milan Milošević.

He also said that he doesn't count on the long time national guard Nemanja Gordić. Rumor: Some disagreements from their Partizan Belgrade time, Nemanja doesn't like Duško and Duško doesn't like Nemanja.

Picek
09-18-2017, 06:24 AM
Where did you read abot deadline?This list will b only for this window or for all he first round of the qualyfing round?

our federation and our press.
that is the reason we wanted to appoint new coach asap.
not sure if it is only for this window or for both november & february or possibly entire qualifications.

Picek
09-18-2017, 10:32 AM
Henrik Rodl was announced as new head coach of German NT.
he has been Flemings assistant in the last two years.

our tv commentators yesterday during the final also mentioned who will take over slovenian NT but didn't hear the name.

Mr Chacho
09-18-2017, 11:10 AM
Without NBA and EL players, Spain most competitive team would be something liuke this:

Colom-Fernández-San Miguel
Brizuela-Corbacho
Beirán-Rabaseda
Aguilar-Antelo-Llovet
Arteaga-Sáiz

Interesting team, our best player would be the naturalized Colom, how people like :rolleyes:

ThePeraCar
09-21-2017, 02:48 PM
Without NBA and EL players, Spain most competitive team would be something liuke this:

Colom-Fernández-San Miguel
Brizuela-Corbacho
Beirán-Rabaseda
Aguilar-Antelo-Llovet
Arteaga-Sáiz

Interesting team, our best player would be the naturalized Colom, how people like :rolleyes:

Apparently Spanish federation doesnt care about Euroleague Garbajosa said that they will call their best players from EL to play in NT in qualifications

BiHBasket
11-01-2017, 10:37 AM
BiH announced 16 players roster:

PG Nemanja Gordić (88') 6'4'' Budućnost

PG Amar Gegić (98') 6'7'' Bayern

PG Adi Zahiragić (95') 6'2'' Kakanj

PG Sani Čampara (99') 6'1'' Andorra

SG Almir Hasandić (90') 6'3'' Sloboda

SF Edin Atić (97') 6'7'' AEK

SF Džanan Musa (99') 6'9'' Cedevita

SF Adin Vrabac (94') 6'8'' Tenerife

SF Aleksandar Lazić (96') 6'8'' Mega

SF Nedžad Muratović (95') 6'7'' Sloboda

SF Milan Milošević (85') 6'8'' Patras

PF Emir Sulejmanović (95') 6'9'' Fuenlabrada

C Andrija Stipanović (86') 6'10'' Cedevita

C Elmedin Kikanović (88') 6'11'' Monaco

C Markus Lončar (96') 7'0'' Široki

C Obrad Tomić (93') 6'10'' Partizan

pohani komarac
11-07-2017, 03:04 PM
so Efes allowed Ballbay and Batuk to play, but does not Simon

How this makes this qualis regular?

Italian Pride
11-07-2017, 04:04 PM
16 players called by Meo Sacchetti for the games against Romania and Croatia:

Awudu Abass (1993, 200, A, EA7 Emporio Armani Milano)
Pietro Aradori (1988, 196, G, Segafredo Virtus Bologna)
Paul Stephane Lionel Biligha (1990, 200, C, Umana Reyer Venezia)
Christian Charles Burns (1985, 203, A/C, Red October Cantù)
Andrea Crosariol (1984, 212, C, Red October Cantù)
Amedeo Della Valle (1993, 194, P/G, Grissin Bon Reggio Emilia)
Ariel Filloy (1987, 190, P, Sidigas Avellino)
Diego Flaccadori (1996, 193, G, Dolomiti Energia Trentino)
Simone Fontecchio (1995, 203, A, EA7 Emporio Armani Milano)
Raphael Gaspardo (1993, 207, A, The Flexx Pistoia)
Alessandro Gentile (1992, 200, G/A, Segafredo Virtus Bologna)
Marco Giuri (1988, 194, P, Happy Casa Brindisi)
Antonio Iannuzzi (1991, 208, C, Fiat Torino)
Achille Polonara (1991, 205, A, Banco di Sardegna Sassari)
Brian Sacchetti (1986, 200, A, Germani Basket Brescia)
Luca Vitali (1986, 201, P, Germani Basket Brescia)

Levenspiel
11-16-2017, 09:07 AM
so Efes allowed Ballbay and Batuk to play, but does not Simon

How this makes this qualis regular?
Because Balbay and Batuk does not actually play with Efes any way. No loss if they're tired or injured or whatever.

I'm curious about who will eventually be there. We were already barren in the EC, with only 4 somewhat good players, 3 of which is surely unavailable now (Osman, Korkmaz, Mahmutoglu).

edvinas9
11-20-2017, 12:20 PM
Scottie Wilbekin will play for Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Obina
11-20-2017, 02:38 PM
Serbian dreamteam. :D :D

Stefan slow mo Peno, Milenko the legend Tepić
Dejan Todorović, Vanja Marinkovic
Marko Simonovic, Aleksa Radanov
Milan Macvan, Stefan Rasheed Bircevic
Miroslav Raduljica, Djordje Dikembe Gagic

BiHBasket
11-21-2017, 11:17 AM
Situation with the rosters for the first two games in our group:

Belgium

They are without Euroleague players Van Rossom and Lojeski, also without Lecomte(NCAA) and Hervelle(retired). Tabu and Serron are injured.

Their roster for those two games seems not strong at all:


Thomas Akyazili (Antwerp Giants), Khalid Boukichou (Elan Chalon), Maxime De Zeeuw (Oldenburg), Pierre-Antoine Gillet (Elan Chalon), Vincent Kesteloot (Ostende), Alexandre Libert (Charleroi), Retin Obasohan (Oettinger Rockets), Elias Lasisi (Ostende), Jean Salumu (Ostende), Olivier Troisfontaines (Okapi Aalstar), Kevin Tumba (Murcia), Hans Vanwijn (Antwerp Giants)


Bosnia and Herzegovina

We don't have players in the Euroleague so at least we don't have to think about that. There is a rumor that Scottie Wilbekin will play for our national team, but I guess in the future, not in those games in the next couple of days.

Russia

Without Mozgov and Vorontsevich their frontcourt will suffer, but even without Shved their backcourt(Khvostov, Kulagin, Fridzon, Karasev) is very, very strong for this level of competition.


France

Euroleague players Fabien Causeur, Thomas Heurtel and Kevin Seraphin will not play in the first game vs Belgium, but maybe all or some of them will join for the game vs Bosnia and Herzegovina.




November games:

24. 11. 2017.

Bosnia and Herzegovina - Russia
Belgium - France

27. 11. 2017.

Russia - Belgium
France - Bosnia and Herzegovina

okanial
11-23-2017, 01:47 AM
Mahmutoğlu will play and probably will be the best player of the team. What a strange time to be alive.

Ermiş, Geçim, Arar and Şanlı will be other starters I guess and they all play good in the league right now. I like our chances but still we need clear roles for the players to win. There are good defensive players and a 5 of Balbay-Batuk-Geçim-Arar-Erden should lock any team at this level. But only Geçim can handle the ball on offense in that squad and I don`t trust Sarıca enough to give ball to him.

Mojado
11-24-2017, 10:32 AM
Germany roster has been announced:

Ismet Akpinar (ratiopharm ulm)
Robin Amaize (medi Bayreut)
Danilo Barthel (FC Bayern München)
Robin Benzing (s.Oliver Würzburg)
Bastian Doreth (medi Bayreuth)
Isaiah Hartenstein (Vipers, G-League)
Dominic Lockhart (BG Göttingen)
Andreas Obst (Oettinger Rockets)
Joshiko Saibou (ALBA Berlin)
Karsten Tadda (EWE Baskets Oldenburg)
Johannes Thiemann (MHP RIESEN Ludwigsburg)
Maik Zirbes (FC Bayern München)

This is like an enhanced b-team with a bunch of role players. I don't see a real scorng threat here so the games against Georgia and Austria won't be a walk in the park at all.

usagre
11-24-2017, 07:11 PM
I feel for the tiny nation of Latvia. They probably have the most significant drop off in talent from their first 5 unavailable NBA/Euroleaguers to their next 5 who actually have to represent them in this tournament.

R1ou
11-24-2017, 07:13 PM
I feel for the tiny nation of Latvia. They probably have the most significant drop off in talent from their first 5 unavailable NBA/Euroleaguers to their next 5 who actually have to represent them in this tournament.

It will be a shame if they go out tbf.

Dtown
11-24-2017, 09:29 PM
First OT game of the qualifiers going on right now. Great Britain with the impressive last minute comeback

okanial
11-27-2017, 01:35 PM
Isn`t it sad that this players play with all they got but most of them won`t be in World Cup because Euroleague and NBA players will replace them

pohani komarac
11-27-2017, 01:39 PM
Isn`t it sad that this players play with all they got but most of them won`t be in World Cup because Euroleague and NBA players will replace them

It's trgic for evryone

And somthing will be interesting next year. When durig summer NBA an EL players join NT's and curent get sacked, how it will efect them in next winter when they get called again?

Levenspiel
11-29-2017, 11:28 AM
Isn`t it sad that this players play with all they got but most of them won`t be in World Cup because Euroleague and NBA players will replace them
that's a very good point.
in our case however, we cannot really replace these guys :), yeah maybe 4-5 of them, but probably half of them will be in the world cup roster if they can make it.

BiHBasket
01-16-2018, 04:22 PM
BiH 17 players list for the february matches:


PG Scottie Wilbekin (93') 6'2'' Darussafaka
PG Nemanja Gordić (88') 6'4'' Budućnost
PG Amar Gegić (98') 6'7'' Bayern
PG Adi Zahiragić (95') 6'2'' Kakanj
PG Sani Čampara (99') 6'1'' Andorra
SG Almir Hasandić (90') 6'3'' Sloboda
SF Edin Atić (97') 6'7'' AEK
SF Džanan Musa (99') 6'9'' Cedevita
SF Nedim Buza (95') 6'8'' Oostende
SF Adin Vrabac (94') 6'8'' Hamburg
SF Aleksandar Lazić (96') 6'8'' Mega
SF Milan Milošević (85') 6'8'' Patras
PF Emir Sulejmanović (95') 6'9'' Fuenlabrada
PF Miralem Halilovic (91') 6'10'' Orleans
C Andrija Stipanović (86') 6'10'' Cedevita
C Elmedin Kikanović (88') 6'11'' Monaco
C Markus Lončar (96') 7'0'' Široki

serbianhoops
01-19-2018, 04:12 PM
France has named an 18-man squad for next month's World Cup Qualifiers against Russia and Belgium.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT6gfdTX4AALhKi.jpg:large

CKR13
01-20-2018, 12:19 AM
Russia names 15 players for next month's Euro qualifiers
http://www.sdna.gr/mpasket/pagkosmio-kypello/pagkosmio-kypello-2019/article/423304/me-paiktes-tis-tsska-kai-tis-ximki

serbianhoops
01-20-2018, 12:09 PM
BiH 17 players list for the february matches:


PG Scottie Wilbekin (93') 6'2'' Darussafaka
PG Nemanja Gordić (88') 6'4'' Budućnost
PG Amar Gegić (98') 6'7'' Bayern
PG Adi Zahiragić (95') 6'2'' Kakanj
PG Sani Čampara (99') 6'1'' Andorra
SG Almir Hasandić (90') 6'3'' Sloboda
SF Edin Atić (97') 6'7'' AEK
SF Džanan Musa (99') 6'9'' Cedevita
SF Nedim Buza (95') 6'8'' Oostende
SF Adin Vrabac (94') 6'8'' Hamburg
SF Aleksandar Lazić (96') 6'8'' Mega
SF Milan Milošević (85') 6'8'' Patras
PF Emir Sulejmanović (95') 6'9'' Fuenlabrada
PF Miralem Halilovic (91') 6'10'' Orleans
C Andrija Stipanović (86') 6'10'' Cedevita
C Elmedin Kikanović (88') 6'11'' Monaco
C Markus Lončar (96') 7'0'' Široki

As the saying goes, "don't count your chickens before they're hatched."


Darussafaka's PG Scottie Wilbekin will receive a Turkish passport and will play for Turkish NT. He received offers from several european federations in the past months, including Romania and Bosnia

BiHBasket
01-20-2018, 12:58 PM
Wilbekin visited Sarajevo and promised he will play for BiH. And suddenly he changed his mind or whatever.

We were embarrassed and I blame Turkish Basketball Federation, Bosnian Basketball Federation, menager Misko Raznatovic and Wilbekin himself for this situation.


edit: To be clear, BiH didn't ask for Wilbekin, his menager Raznatovic offered him to Bosnian Basketball Federation, at least that's what they say.

Levenspiel
01-20-2018, 09:27 PM
Wilbekin visited Sarajevo and promised he will play for BiH. And suddenly he changed his mind or whatever.

We were embarrassed and I blame Turkish Basketball Federation, Bosnian Basketball Federation, menager Misko Raznatovic and Wilbekin himself for this situation.


edit: To be clear, BiH didn't ask for Wilbekin, his menager Raznatovic offered him to Bosnian Basketball Federation, at least that's what they say.
if true, it's the most embarrassing for us. Turkoglu and his TBF has no decency and this is just another showcase for it.

BiHBasket
02-05-2018, 06:54 PM
After 0 - 2 in first two games, Croatia decided to rely on vets. Marko Popović(35 y) and Luka Žorić(33 y) are called.

BiHBasket
02-05-2018, 07:00 PM
2001 born big man Haris Bratanović is on the prelim list of Belgium. His parents are from BiH.

Levenspiel
02-14-2018, 11:03 AM
Turkish NT candidate squad for the 2nd window

https://i.hizliresim.com/rO2aGV.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/z0B174)

okanial
02-14-2018, 06:53 PM
Turkish NT candidate squad for the 2nd window

https://i.hizliresim.com/rO2aGV.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/z0B174)

Who took the photo and why does he hate all these players?

BiHBasket
02-16-2018, 07:58 AM
Belgium roster for the matches vs BiH and France

- Vincent Kesteloot (Oostende)
- Tim Lambrecht (Oostende)
- Elias Lasisi (Oostende)
- Jean-Marc Mwema (Oostende)
- Jean Salumu (Oostende)
- Thomas Akyazili (Antwerp Giants)
- Ismael Bako (Antwerp Giants)
- Hans Vanwijn (Antwerp Giants)
- Haris Bratanović (Falco Gent)
- Jonathan Tabu (Bilbao)
- Kevin Tumba (Murcia)
- Pierre-Antoine Gillet (Chalon)
- Retin Obasohan (Oettinger)
- Quentin Serron (Gravelines)
- Matt Lojeski (Panathinaikos)


Obasohan and Lojeski are questionable for the injury/Euroleague reasons.

Euroleague player Van Rossom is injured anyway, also injured and missing is Maxime De Zeeuw.

Tabu and Serron missed first two games because of injuries, now they should play.

Bratanović(16 yo) may be youngest player in the history of Belgium national team.

vilkusuns
02-16-2018, 09:58 AM
Latvian roster for matches vs Ukraine and Turkey
Aigars Skele G 192/1992 Ventspils
Davis Lejasmeiers PG 192/1991 Krosno
Ingus Jakovics G 186/1993 Ventspils
Janis Blums SG 190/1982 Zaragoza
Arturs Ausejs SG 192/1990 Pieno zvaigzdes
Rihards Lomazs G 190/1996 Ventspils
Zanis Peiners SF 203/1990 Lietkabelis
Rodions Kurucs SF 202/1998 Barcelona
Ojars Silins F 204/1993 Trento
Rolands Smits PF 207/1995 Fuenlabrada
Mareks Mejeris PF 207/1991 VEF Riga
Andrejs Grazulis PF 202/1993 Parma
Anzejs Pasecniks C 215/1995 Gran Canaria
Martins Meiers C 208/1991 Enisey

JGX
02-20-2018, 08:29 PM
The British are running out of money:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/basketball/2018/02/16/team-gb-basketball-teams-face-extinction-funding-900000-short/

Dtown
02-21-2018, 12:58 AM
The British are running out of money:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/basketball/2018/02/16/team-gb-basketball-teams-face-extinction-funding-900000-short/

Apparently this was big enough to take in front of members of parliament http://www.gbbasketball.com/news/4405.php#.WozEAIPwaM-

http://www.mvp247.com/2018/02/parliamentary-debate-basketball/

JGX
02-21-2018, 03:27 AM
Apparently this was big enough to take in front of members of parliament http://www.gbbasketball.com/news/4405.php#.WozEAIPwaM-

http://www.mvp247.com/2018/02/parliamentary-debate-basketball/

British politicians talking about basketball is incredible. Here's a selection of quotes:


Minister, let us not be remembered for throwing an air ball; let us do what is right for basketball and slam dunk the ball right into the hoop for our GB players. At the moment, the ball is in the hands of UK Sport, and I am concerned that it is double dribbling with its decision not to fund GB basketball. I see an opportunity for the ​Minister to make an offensive turnover, and her assist could provide the opportunity for British basketball to score the winning three-pointer that sees those women through to EuroBasket in Serbia and Latvia in 2019


I am sure that most hon. Members think of basketball as a five-player game indoors, but they will also remember the classic movie “White Men Can’t Jump”, starring Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes, in which Woody and Wesley play outdoors on a half-court, two on two. That will not quite become an Olympic sport, but if we add a player on each side, it will: 3 on 3 basketball will debut at the Tokyo 2020 games, in just two years’ time, as a full Olympic sport—an Olympic sport eligible for UK Sport funding. No one knows who the medal challengers will be or what our Olympic potential is.

The game 3 on 3 is played in every urban constituency, as the hon. Member for Hornchurch and Upminster (Julia Lopez) has pointed out. In fact, 3 on 3 basketball is the largest urban team sport in the world, according to a study commissioned by the International Olympic Committee. The Netherlands base their youth basketball development programme on the 3 on 3 style of play, and as a result the country is ranked second across all genders and ages. Ball Out 3x3 is pioneering 3 on 3 basketball in the UK and is endorsed by FIBA 3x3. It will deliver the nation’s biggest 3 on 3 tournament this summer. We will become one of the leaders of 3 on 3 if this continues.

In the United States, rapper Ice Cube has teamed up with former NBA stars to launch a 3 on 3 league. Cube said:

“It was to bring a style of basketball that I grew up playing, watching, and loving, which is 3-on-3 basketball.”

That is the same urban sport that our young people play outdoors. As this is the first debate I have led in Westminster Hall, I hope you will indulge me, Mr Bailey, and let me quote from the Ice Cube song, “It Was a Good Day”, which is about a day in south-central Los Angeles, a very urban and difficult area. It was a day without any gang violence, air pollution or police harassment. He raps:

“Which park, are y’all playin’ basketball?

Get me on the court and I’m trouble”.


I hope that the Minister will take on board three recommendations, with which she can score a triple double—a basketball term for scoring 10 or more points in three different areas.


For people who have not been to a basketball game, it is worth going along. It is not like a football game or a rugby game. I have seen Raiders play at the Copper Box at the Olympic park and I was brimming with pride at seeing them play on such a big stage, but there is no place like home. We have Foxy the mascot, the best basketball cheerleaders in the country, indoor fireworks, music, competitions on court and a chance to see hero players—going to a basketball game is fantastic.


Some hon. Members will know that as a massive gay, I am not really into the traditional cheerleader, but I am a big fan of equality


As has already been pointed out, basketball is a truly unique sport. I played on my university team for three years and enjoyed it, proving that mixed-race, Pakistani-Polish girls can jump. [Laughter.]

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2018-02-20/debates/2f66dbaf-7164-4921-bc98-6f006b21289a/WestminsterHall

edvinas9
02-21-2018, 10:02 PM
Lithuania's national basketball team right now:
Mindaugas Girdžiūnas
Rokas Giedraitis
Martynas Echodas
Renaldas Seibutis
Edgaras Želionis
Kšištof Lavrinovic
Vaidas Čepukaitis
Laurynas Birutis
Adas Juškevičius
Žygimantas Janavičius
Marius Grigonis
Arnoldas Kulboka
Eimantas Bendžius
Evaldas Kairys

edvinas9
02-22-2018, 04:29 PM
Does any know a site, where I can find all team rosters for this week games?

Hepcat
02-22-2018, 07:25 PM
Here is the Lithuanian team's twelve man roster for tomorrow's game in Klaipėda against Hungary:

Evaldas Kairys - C
Vaidas Čepukaitis - C, PF
Martynas Echodas - PF, C
Kšištofas Lavrinovičius - PF, C
Edgaras Želionis - PF
Eimantas Bendžius - PF, SF
Rokas Giedraitis - SF
Marius Grigonis - SG
Renaldas Seibutis - SG
Adas Juškevičius - SG, PG
Mindaugas Girdžiūnas - PG, SG
Žygimantas Janavičius - PG

Martynas Echodas and Edgaras Želionis will therefore be donning Team Lietuva jerseys for the first time in an officially sanctioned men's team game.

:)

Hepcat
02-22-2018, 07:32 PM
Does any know a site, where I can find all team rosters for this week games?

FIBA World Cup Qualifiers - European Teams (http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/european-qualifiers/qualifiedteams)

:)

BiHBasket
02-22-2018, 09:13 PM
BiH - Bosnia is a vital game for both sides.

According to FIBA site, this will be BiH roster for tomorrow game:

PG - Gordić(88'), Gegić(98')
SG - Musa(99'), Atić(97'), Hasandić(90')
SF - Lazić(96'), Vrabac(94'), Buza(95')
PF - Sulejmanović(95'), Halilović(91')
C - Stipanović(86'), Lončar(96')

Once again, it's a young team. It's well known that Kikanović is injured and won't play, but it's suprise that Milošević isn't in the final 12(if FIBA is right).

According to media, this should be Belgium roster:

- Vincent Kesteloot (Oostende)
- Elias Lasisi (Oostende)
- Jean-Marc Mwema (Oostende)
- Jean Salumu (Oostende)
- Thomas Akyazili (Antwerp Giants)
- Ismael Bako (Antwerp Giants)
- Hans Vanwijn (Antwerp Giants)
- Jonathan Tabu (Bilbao)
- Kevin Tumba (Murcia)
- Pierre-Antoine Gillet (Chalon)
- Retin Obasohan (Oettinger)
- Quentin Serron (Gravelines)

Lojeski may play against France.

BiHBasket
02-23-2018, 03:19 AM
Croatia 12 for the match vs Romania

1 - Uljarević, Mavra
2/3 - Pilepić, Babić, Delaš, Krušlin
4 - Šakić, Buva, Perić
5 - Žorić, Planinić, Bilan

Mr Chacho
02-23-2018, 11:04 PM
I watched Spain's game today and man, awful and boring. LEB Bronze teams plays in better courts.

I appreciate the desire of our players, although they know that they wont play the WC. That team is the C team.

Dtown
02-24-2018, 12:42 AM
Some weird results today

Croatia's basically screwed 0-3 with a loss to Romania
Spain barely beating Belarus of all teams.
Sweden beating Turkey (Nice crowd though)
Germany downing Serbia (okay not a huge surprise)

Picek
02-24-2018, 03:54 AM
Some weird results today

Croatia's basically screwed 0-3 with a loss to Romania
Spain barely beating Belarus of all teams.
Sweden beating Turkey (Nice crowd though)
Germany downing Serbia (okay not a huge surprise)
No words about our loss.
No words can describe it.
We still have some slim chances but we basically just killed Bogdanovic, Saric etc. chances to play at big competition in the nex four years.

BiHBasket
02-24-2018, 11:42 AM
Fridzon will join to the Rusian team for the match vs BiH. With Kulagin and Karasev already there, that's a top backcourt for this level of competition.

R1ou
02-24-2018, 11:46 AM
Bosnia looks like the surprise team of the qualifiers, with Croatia and Latvia being the biggest disappointments.

BiHBasket
02-24-2018, 12:13 PM
Ukraine is a positive suprise too, and Finland is a disappointment.

Seems like Czech Republic will take maximum number of points in their group before the second group stage, so even before first game in second/final group stage they will already be very close to the World Cup. All of that without Vesely and Sataronsky.

I like Sweden. They are underrated. That group with them, Turkey, Ukraine and Latvia is the most interesting.

Levenspiel
02-24-2018, 02:17 PM
Ukraine is a positive suprise too, and Finland is a disappointment.

Seems like Czech Republic will take maximum number of points in their group before the second group stage, so even before first game in second/final group stage they will already be very close to the World Cup. All of that without Vesely and Sataronsky.

I like Sweden. They are underrated. That group with them, Turkey, Ukraine and Latvia is the most interesting.
I half-watched Sweden - Turkey game, and we played like crap. it's worth mentioning though the (very) clear foul on Dixon was not called on last offense. Refs sympathized with the crowd i guess. anyway, the game should not have come to that point. great game by Spires, with 6 blocks.

serbianhoops
02-24-2018, 05:41 PM
No words about our loss.
No words can describe it.
We still have some slim chances but we basically just killed Bogdanovic, Saric etc. chances to play at big competition in the nex four years.

Meanwhile PG David Stockton poured in 10 points in 21 minutes for USA in blowout win over Cuba.

Liha
02-24-2018, 10:27 PM
This is silly. Finland will start it's group with 1 win and 3 losses after tomorrow when they lose to Bulgaria thanks to Euroleague for not letting our two Euroleague players Salin and Koponen play.

Barcelona won't let Koponen play and he's not even in their starting five usually. Barcelona won't have overlapping games or anything near Sunday when Finland plays Bulgaria. They are just messing with us. Meanwhile Barcelona let's Vezenkov of Bulgaria play tomorrow against Finland. Same thing happened in the last Bulgaria match but miraculously Finland won that game. It's so f*cked up. Finland would have 4 wins and 0 losses after tomorrow without this Euroleague BS.

There's just not enough depth in Finnish team to endure losing 2 of our top-3 players. Finland must suffer from this more than any other team right now. Top teams like France etc have enough depth.

On top of that we are missing two of our starting five players due to injuries. It's fun losing to Iceland.

BiHBasket
02-25-2018, 08:30 AM
Russian roster for today game:

- Baburin (87', Lokomotiv Kuban)
- Khvostov (89', Lokomotiv Kuban)
- D. Kulagin (92', Lokomotiv Kuban)
- Ilnitskiy (94', Lokomotiv Kuban)
- Zaitsev (89' Khimki)
- Zubkov (91', Khimki)
- Karasev (93', Zenit)
- Valiev (90', Zenit)
- Fridzon (85', CSKA)
- Gubanov (87', Nizhny)
- Ukhov (95', Parma)
- Balashov (91', Pieno)


BiH roster will be same as against Belgium:

PG - Gordić (88'), Gegić (98')
SG - Musa (99'), Atić (97'), Hasandić (90')
SF - Lazić (96'), Vrabac (94'), Buza (95')
PF - Sulejmanović (95'), Halilović (91')
C - Stipanović (86'), Lončar (96')

BiHBasket
02-25-2018, 02:52 PM
Wow, those new guys on the Russian side, Vicente Bulto, Tomas Jasevicius, Anastasios Piloidis, you can't win against them:rolleyes:

We lost by 19 against France but still referees did a great job, but this today is ridiculous.

remigijus
02-25-2018, 03:36 PM
Wow, those new guys on the Russian side, Vicente Bulto, Tomas Jasevicius, Anastasios Piloidis, you can't win against them:rolleyes:

We lost by 19 against France but still referees did a great job, but this today is ridiculous.

Tomas Jasevičius on the russian side ? =DD are you mad bro ........

Dtown
02-25-2018, 06:06 PM
I feel Britain might be the best bad team in Europe. Every game they have a lead going into the 4th quarter, sometimes by double digits, and each and every time they lose without fail.

Picek
02-25-2018, 07:23 PM
I feel Britain might be the best bad team in Europe. Every game they have a lead going into the 4th quarter, sometimes by double digits, and each and every time they lose without fail.

they lost all four games by combined total of 16 points.
bit unlucky but still with chances to progress.

BiHBasket
02-26-2018, 07:52 PM
I bet if Turkey doesn't not qualify on the ordinary way, FIBA will find a way:rolleyes:

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 08:16 AM
Slovenia let Vidmar in Banvit after first game, because they understand that results from a team that doesn’t qualify don’t count. That’s how it should be anyway, because you should get points from the same teams. But they found out yesterday, that’s not the truth. And that’s Prepelic reaction,

http://www.eurohoops.net/en/fibawc/624790/prepelic-wc-qualifiers-huge-bullsh-t/

Dtown
02-27-2018, 11:17 AM
Slovenia let Vidmar in Banvit after first game, because they understand that results from a team that doesn’t qualify don’t count. That’s how it should be anyway, because you should get points from the same teams. But they found out yesterday, that’s not the truth. And that’s Prepelic reaction,

http://www.eurohoops.net/en/fibawc/624790/prepelic-wc-qualifiers-huge-bullsh-t/

Absolute truth in the reaction. The system sucks, it absolutely sucks, but when you lose to bad teams you make it infinitely harder on yourself and the consequences for not qualifying are extreme.

Shawshank
02-27-2018, 01:06 PM
Overall the system is tough for nt teams that have very little deph ,but the system is all same for everybody. Those middle level teams have way bigger chances for upsets sure,but thats no excuse for elite teams to lose against b level teams like belarus,sweden,romania and so on you must beat such level NT teams even with without 6-7 best your players if you are elite team.

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 01:31 PM
Overall the system is tough for nt teams that have very little deph ,but the system is all same for everybody. Those middle level teams have way bigger chances for upsets sure,but thats no excuse for elite teams to lose against b level teams like belarus,sweden,romania and so on you must beat such level NT teams even with without 6-7 best your players if you are elite team.

I’m not talking about that, but crazy rule that all scores count in second round, even against teams, who won’t make it in second round. That means that all teams in qualifying group won’t play against same opponents. For example. In group C all teams will go in next round with 4 points and great basket difference from games against Kosovo. And they will compete there with teams, who won’t have points against Kosovo, but if we look to today’s table against Croatia. That’s pretty big advantage for teams in group C. I never heard something like that in any sport. Same group, but points from different matches.

Prepelic said they changed that rule, but even if Slovenia and other teams simply didn’t know about that rule and should blame themselves. That doesn’t change the fact, how wrong the rule is. It’s impossible that someone in the same group has the points against Kosovo and other have or doesn’t have against let’s say Croatia.

Yesterday the problem was, that Slovenia let Vidmar go in Banvit and Muric injured himself in the start od the match. If I understand correctly Vidmar would have stay, if they knew the game is important.

Shawshank
02-27-2018, 02:00 PM
I’m not talking about that, but crazy rule that all scores count in second round, even against teams, who won’t make it in second round. That means that all teams in qualifying group won’t play against same opponents. For example. In group C all teams will go in next round with 4 points and great basket difference from games against Kosovo. And they will compete there with teams, who won’t have points against Kosovo, but if we look to today’s table against Croatia. That’s pretty big advantage for teams in group C. I never heard something like that in any sport. Same group, but points from different matches.

Prepelic said they changed that rule, but even if Slovenia and other teams simply didn’t know about that rule and should blame themselves. That doesn’t change the fact, how wrong the rule is. It’s impossible that someone in the same group has the points against Kosovo and other have or doesn’t have against let’s say Croatia.

Yesterday the problem was, that Slovenia let Vidmar go in Banvit and Muric injured himself in the start od the match. If I understand correctly Vidmar would have stay, if they knew the game is important.

if thats true what you say its nonsense for sure.I thought those 2 games againts Kosovo will mean nothing at all.We gonna go to second round with 4-0 or 3-1,but not with 5-1 or 6-0.Are you sure the system like that? I dont see where in that interview is written like that?

on vikipedia is written is like that: 'Teams will carry over the points from round one' but will they carry wins against all teams or only those that made 2 round for me in unclear.If they carry all wins then ofcourse all wins is very important.But thats not fair i agree.Only wins against 2 round teams should be carry over no doubt.

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 02:12 PM
if thats true what you say its nonsense for sure.I thought those 2 games againts Kosovo will mean nothing at all.We gonna go to second round with 4-0 or 3-1,but not with 5-1 or 6-0.Are you sure the system like that? I dont see where in that interview is written like that?

on vikipedia is written is like that: 'Teams will carry over the points from round one' but will they carry wins against all teams or only those that made 2 round for me in unclear.If they carry all wins then ofcourse all wins is very important.But thats not fair i agree.Only wins against 2 round teams should be carry over no doubt.

Slovenian team got that answer yesterday from Fiba. But Vidmar was already in Turkey and other players in friendly mode. Total joke.

That’s what Prepelic meant with. “The World Cup Qualifiers are irregular. A thousand and one things change at the last minute. This is one huge bullsh–t.”

Dtown
02-27-2018, 02:25 PM
Slovenian team got that answer yesterday from Fiba. But Vidmar was already in Turkey and other players in friendly mode. Total joke.

I'm not sure about the rule one way or another but it's a moot point, Belarus had not been eliminated yet at the time of the game. Presuming they would be eliminated later so it was okay to slack off is arrogant in the extreme.

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 02:37 PM
I'm not sure about the rule one way or another but it's a moot point, Belarus had not been eliminated yet at the time of the game. Presuming they would be eliminated later so it was okay to slack off is arrogant in the extreme.

Who’s paying Vidmar? Vidmar was in hospital before games and Banvit not particularly fond to let him go. They made a deal for more important game. I can only thanks Banvit. Preparation for first game was for sure different and I said it’s players fault for defeat. Prepelic even missed Ft for overtime. And he criticized himself for bad game. But that doesn’t change the fact that the rule is totally wrong and qualifications irregular. Fiba should quit.

Italian Pride
02-27-2018, 03:03 PM
if thats true what you say its nonsense for sure.I thought those 2 games againts Kosovo will mean nothing at all.We gonna go to second round with 4-0 or 3-1,but not with 5-1 or 6-0.Are you sure the system like that? I dont see where in that interview is written like that?

on vikipedia is written is like that: 'Teams will carry over the points from round one' but will they carry wins against all teams or only those that made 2 round for me in unclear.If they carry all wins then ofcourse all wins is very important.But thats not fair i agree.Only wins against 2 round teams should be carry over no doubt.

man,read this https://sportando.basketball/en/national-teams/world-cup/265956/fiba-world-cup-qualifiers-europe-results-of-all-games-played-in-1st-round-are-valid-for-2nd-round.html#refresh_ce

Picek
02-27-2018, 03:10 PM
Slovenian team got that answer yesterday from Fiba. But Vidmar was already in Turkey and other players in friendly mode. Total joke.

That’s what Prepelic meant with. “The World Cup Qualifiers are irregular. A thousand and one things change at the last minute. This is one huge bullsh–t.”
don't you think they should have known that before it was too late for Vidmar?
I mean they are not the only ones who didn't know that, our federation didn't know it either but it's their fault. they are paid to know.

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 03:29 PM
don't you think they should have known that before it was too late for Vidmar?
I mean they are not the only ones who didn't know that, our federation didn't know it either but it's their fault. they are paid to know.

I agree they should know. They fucked up. But that doesn’t change the fact that the rule is wrong, stupid... And imho qualifications irregular. You can’t have fair competition, if teams in the same qualifications group don’t have scores from the same opponents. It’s crazy how they cannot see how wrong that is.

Hepcat
02-27-2018, 04:59 PM
...Belarus had not been eliminated yet at the time of the game. Presuming they would be eliminated later so it was okay to slack off is arrogant in the extreme.


don't you think they should have known that before it was too late for Vidmar?
I mean they are not the only ones who didn't know that, our federation didn't know it either but it's their fault. they are paid to know.


I agree they should know. They fucked up. But that doesn’t change the fact that the rule is wrong, stupid... And imho qualifications irregular. You can’t have fair competition, if teams in the same qualifications group don’t have scores from the same opponents. It’s crazy how they cannot see how wrong that is.

You fellows are all very correct. The rule counting games against eliminated opponents is unfair and is therefore a really bad one. But for any national federation not to be aware of the rule though is beyond belief, and for the Slovenian federation not to take the game against Romania seriously enough is unpardonable. Somebody should be disciplined.

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 06:29 PM
You fellows are all very correct. The rule counting games against eliminated opponents is unfair and is therefore a really bad one. But for any national federation not to be aware of the rule though is beyond belief, and for the Slovenian federation not to take the game against Romania seriously enough is unpardonable. Somebody should be disciplined.

1. Slovenia didn’t play with Romania.
2. They for sure wanted Vidmar for both games, but it was fair decision towards player and his club, who is paying him.
3. Motivation in sports is always in correlation with who you’re playing against and the importance of the game.
4. The rule is so stupid, that I cannot blame federation to much for not knowing it.
5. It’s obvious Fifa cannot organize regular competition, therefore they should dissolve themselves in favor of the basketball.

Hepcat
02-27-2018, 08:26 PM
Slovenia didn’t play with Romania.

Whoops! Of course I meant Belarus.


The rule is so stupid, that I cannot blame federation to much for not knowing it.

But I'm not paid to know what I'm talking about here or get things right. Unlike me the Slovenian federation does get paid to get things right. The federation therefore can't be so easily excused.


Motivation in sports is always in correlation with who you’re playing against and the importance of the game.

You realize of course that you've just put your finger on FIBA's rationale for the rule. FIBA wants every team to take every game as seriously as possible regardless of the teams' position in the standings. Quite simply while a game might mean nothing to a team that's already advanced, the outcome of the game might nonetheless determine which of two other teams advances. Therefore FIBA wants to see both teams giving their all on the floor, as of course do the fans who've paid good money for tickets.

:)

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 08:51 PM
Whoops! Of course I meant Belarus.



I'm not paid to know what I'm talking about here or get things right. Unlike me the Slovenian federation does get paid to get things right. The federation therefore can't be so easily excused.



You realize of course that you've just put your finger on FIBA's rationale for the rule. FIBA wants every team to take every game as seriously as possible regardless of the teams' position in the standings. Quite simply while a game might mean nothing to a team that's already advanced, the outcome of the game might nonetheless determine which of two other teams advances. Therefore FIBA wants to see both teams giving their all on the floor, as of course do the fans who've paid good money for tickets.

:)

nice. than why don’t we introduce double points in last 5 minutes, to make every game interesting till the end? maybe team in the lead should score twice for a point? or why we don’t have in group stage, last game bringing double points, so nobody will be qualified before last game? who cares if competition isn’t fair, the only important goal is to have interesting competition.

Fiba with their genius plan made it possible, that we will have in next round in each group results from 12 games from teams that won’t be even there.

Hepcat
02-27-2018, 09:48 PM
nice. than why don’t we introduce double points in last 5 minutes, to make every game interesting till the end? maybe team in the lead should score twice for a point? or why we don’t have in group stage, last game bringing double points, so nobody will be qualified before last game?

I was guessing that FIBA might have wanted to make each game equally important. Why would you leap from that to making asinine suggestions about some games or points being "more equal" than others? Are you just trying to be obstinate? If so, you're succeeding.


who cares if competition isn’t fair, the only important goal is to have interesting competition.

Fiba with their genius plan made it possible, that we will have in next round in each group results from 12 games from teams that won’t be even there.

Yes, but worse yet was the decided lack of anything approaching genius at the Slovenian basketball federation. Why are you trying to let them off the hook? I'd think you'd now want to drag them out of their comfortable chairs and give them a solid ass-kicking for not even bothering to appraise themselves of the qualifying rules. Your cousin or brother-in-law isn't by any chance a member of this federation, is he?

:confused:

Dtown
02-27-2018, 10:05 PM
The point I and others have been trying to make is no matter how stupid the FIBA rule is (and it is stupid) it should not have effected Slovenia because

1: Slovenia had not, and has not, qualified for the 2nd round yet. Worrying about what carries over to the 2nd round when you can still be eliminated in the 1st foolish.

2: Even if Slovenia had won yesterday, and even if FIBA didn't have the stupid rule, Belarus would still have had a chance to make the second round! While unlikely a win over Spain/Montenegro or just a big enough win over Montenegro would have put them in. So Slovenia assuming this game wouldn't carry over makes even less sense.

Killer Bob
02-27-2018, 10:22 PM
The point I and others have been trying to make is no matter how stupid the FIBA rule is (and it is stupid) it should not have effected Slovenia because

1: Slovenia had not, and has not, qualified for the 2nd round yet. Worrying about what carries over to the 2nd round when you can still be eliminated in the 1st foolish.


2: Even if Slovenia had won yesterday, and even if FIBA didn't have the stupid rule, Belarus would still have had a chance to make the second round! While unlikely a win over Spain/Montenegro or just a big enough win over Montenegro would have put them in. So Slovenia assuming this game wouldn't carry over makes even less sense.

the rule is not only stupid, but makes qualifications irregular.

Slovenia can realistically not qualify only if Belarus wins Spain and Montenegro in away games and Slovenia loses both home games, against Montenegro for 13 points. all other results are even less likely, because Slovenia has better head to head to Belarus and Belarus -24 with Montenegro, what makes any three way tie very difficult for Belarus.

If Slovenia have had won yesterday, Belarus would have needed away win over Spain and win over Montenegro in away game, and Montenegro to lose in Slovenia or away win against Montenegro for 25 points not to be last. Any situation highly unlikely.

And even after yesterday’s win, Belarus is prime candidate for last place. They need to win Montenegro away and hope that Montenegro doesn’t win Slovenia. -24 points lost is very heavy.

Spain first, Slovenia second and Montenegro 3rd is far the most realistic scenario.

p.s. All this calculations are from the head, I apologize in advance if I missed something.

Shawshank
02-28-2018, 12:10 PM
the rule is not only stupid, but makes qualifications irregular.

Slovenia can realistically not qualify only if Belarus wins Spain and Montenegro in away games and Slovenia loses both home games, against Montenegro for 13 points. all other results are even less likely, because Slovenia has better head to head to Belarus and Belarus -24 with Montenegro, what makes any three way tie very difficult for Belarus.

If Slovenia have had won yesterday, Belarus would have needed away win over Spain and win over Montenegro in away game, and Montenegro to lose in Slovenia or away win against Montenegro for 25 points not to be last. Any situation highly unlikely.

And even after yesterday’s win, Belarus is prime candidate for last place. They need to win Montenegro away and hope that Montenegro doesn’t win Slovenia. -24 points lost is very heavy.

Spain first, Slovenia second and Montenegro 3rd is far the most realistic scenario.

p.s. All this calculations are from the head, I apologize in advance if I missed something.


calm down that lose wont effect Slovenia in first group,they will easily qualife for sure.But that lost will make your teams life more diffcult in second group .Belarus will finish with 1-5,this win was shining moment of Belarus team in this qualification (they already played all 3 games at home,2 remaining is away and they will lose in double digits no doubt in those games).

2round Slovenia gets Latvia,Turkey,Ukraine and thats not joke teams at all +Spain and Slovenia,Montenegro and only 3 will get ticket to WC. Even Montenegro can make upsets in some games in 2 round.I would call this death group of this WC qualification.All 6 teams were in top 16 in last eurobasket, 3 of them in top8)

Spain will win the group and for 2-3 places will be a dog fight.Thats lose againts very weak belarus can hunt your team in the 2nd round for sure.Same goes to Turkey and they lose againts Sweden.

BiHBasket
04-16-2018, 09:10 AM
We may lose Gordić, he is on his prime, MVP of the Adriatic league playoff, will probably play in the Euroleague in the next season.

BiHBasket
05-16-2018, 08:53 AM
BiH 24 players list(Nurkić will not play, Adams still doesn't have our passport...) for the matches vs France and Belgium:


PG Josh Adams (93') 6'2'' Besiktas
PG Nemanja Gordić (88') 6'4'' Budućnost
PG Amar Gegić (98') 6'7'' Bayern
PG Sani Čampara (99') 6'1'' Andorra
PG Darko Talić (98') 6'2'' Igokea
PG Marko Rikalo (94') 6'1'' Sloboda
SG Almir Hasandić (90') 6'3'' Sloboda
SF Edin Atić (97') 6'7'' AEK
SF Džanan Musa (99') 6'9'' Cedevita
SF Milan Milošević (85') 6'8'' Patras
SF Adin Vrabac (94') 6'8'' Hamburg
SF Aleksandar Lazić (96') 6'8'' Mega
SF Nedim Buza (95') 6'8'' Oostende
SF Ibrahim Durmo (97') 6'8'' Spars Sarajevo
SF Nedžad Muratović(95') 6'7'' Sloboda
SF Amar Alibegović (95') 6'8'' St. John's
PF Emir Sulejmanović (95') 6'9'' Fuenlabrada
PF Ajdin Penava (97') 6'10'' Marshall
PF Ivan Karačić (96') 6'8'' Široki
C Jusuf Nurkić (94') 7'0'' Portland
C Andrija Stipanović (86') 6'10'' Cedevita
C Elmedin Kikanović (88') 6'11'' Monaco
C Markus Lončar (96') 7'0'' Široki
C Kenan Kamenjaš (00') 6'9'' Spars Sarajevo



Miralem Halilović will miss those two games. Karačić played for the Croatia youth national teams.

serbianhoops
05-22-2018, 03:04 PM
http://www.zurnal.rs/public/uploads/images/a2%2864%29.jpg

Italian Pride
05-23-2018, 12:53 PM
17 years old Nico Mannion will join italian training camp next June

serbianhoops
05-23-2018, 08:39 PM
17 years old Nico Mannion will join italian training camp next June

Or not, given that Mannion is also on USA U17 World Cup Team roster for a training camp which will take place June 15-18 at the United States Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs.

https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2018/05/mu17-court-coaches.aspx

serbianhoops
05-24-2018, 07:54 PM
Nuggets center Nikola Jokic will not participate in international basketball this offseason (https://milehighsports.com/nuggets-center-nikola-jokic-will-not-participate-in-international-basketball-this-offseason/)

Italian Pride
05-25-2018, 05:47 PM
Guys, do you know the deadline to communicate the 24 man squad to Fiba?

Serbianhoops: about Nico we'll see

Dtown
05-26-2018, 12:36 AM
British basketball stays alive....for now

https://inews.co.uk/sport/other/british-basketball-funding-government-bail-out-string-attached/

The Brits were in danger of not having the funding to keep their Mens and Womens basketball teams active and might have missed their next two qualification games as a result. They've been granted funding, but need to get their act together.

JGX
05-27-2018, 05:01 PM
The GB thing is so strange to me. There are plenty of smaller, poorer countries competing in FIBA qualifiers (and FIBA tournaments in general), but GB seems to be the only one on the verge of not being able to play their games and apparently folding their entire national team program. Is the funding situation really that different for GB than for everyone else? Does the GB vs. England/Scotland/Wales thing just throw everything off? Are they just uniquely inept at generating revenue outside of government funding? Maybe they can take lessons from the USVI on running a program with limited resources.

Dtown
05-27-2018, 10:43 PM
The GB thing is so strange to me. There are plenty of smaller, poorer countries competing in FIBA qualifiers (and FIBA tournaments in general), but GB seems to be the only one on the verge of not being able to play their games and apparently folding their entire national team program. Is the funding situation really that different for GB than for everyone else? Does the GB vs. England/Scotland/Wales thing just throw everything off? Are they just uniquely inept at generating revenue outside of government funding? Maybe they can take lessons from the USVI on running a program with limited resources.

I think it has something to do with the Brits over all sport funding model, which means all the money goes to sports where they could medal and are cut from programs that can't. So when when Basketball was deemed to have no shot to medal it was cut to 0. GB is also terrible at raising their own cash so it's a mix of cruelty from GB Sport and incompetence from GB Basketball.

Roofman
05-27-2018, 11:48 PM
This whole situation with Britain and other teams in a similar situation annoys me. Why can't FIBA offer each nation a small incentive (say $US500 000) to cover administration and coaching costs each year the same way FIFA do? (Fwiw, I hear that each team that qualifies for the FIFA World Cup receives something like $US15 000 000 just for qualifying). Would it break the bank just to do that? Nigeria in the London Olympics were another example, they prepare in Houston for the Venezuela qualifying tournament, then have only sufficient money to meet a few days before the Olympics.

Obina
05-28-2018, 02:48 PM
Djordjevic announced preliminar list. Jokic and Bogdanovic will not play.

Nemanja Bjelica (Minnesota Timberwolves)
Milos Teodosic (LA Clippers)
Boban Marjanovic (LA Clippers)
Nemanja Nedovic (Unicaja)
Dragan Milosavljevic (Unicaja)
Marko Guduric (Fenerbahce)
Nikola Kalinic (Fenerbahce)
Stefan Jovic (Bayern Munich)
Vladimir Lucic (Bayern Munich)
Luka Mitrovic (Brose Bamberg)
Dejan Musli (Brose Bamberg)
Marko Simonovic (Zenit Saint Petersburg)
Miroslav Raduljica (Jiansu Dragons)
Nikola Milutinov (Olympiacos)
Vasilije Micic (Zalgiris Kaunas)
Stefan Peno (Alba Berlin)
Aleksa Avramovic (Varese)
Dejan Todorovic (Bilbao)
Stevan Jelovac (Niznhi Novgorod)
Ilija Djokovic (Borac Cacak)
Ognjen Dobric (Crvena Zvezda)
Aleksa Radanov (Crvena Zvezda)
Dejan Davidovac (Crvena Zvezda)
Djordje Gagic (Partizan)
Nikola Miskovic (Mega)

Italian Pride
06-07-2018, 04:18 PM
Or not, given that Mannion is also on USA U17 World Cup Team roster for a training camp which will take place June 15-18 at the United States Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs.

https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2018/05/mu17-court-coaches.aspx

Mannion is in like Jeff Brooks:cool:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfEoI0tXUAAklLC.jpg:large

Dtown
06-20-2018, 01:38 AM
Germany have seriously upgraded their roster for the final two games.

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/european-qualifiers/news/schroder-voigtmann-and-kleber-join-germany-for-games-against-austria-serbia

CHBB
06-21-2018, 08:42 PM
That French team is seriously strong. And they've got guys like Okobo for the future, too. Who knows who their next great player will be? It's odd that TLC isn't playing though. Unless he didn't make the cut?

I really can't fault any free agent for not playing. It's a huge risk.

As for Great Britain... it really annoys me how stupid their sporting body is about basketball. They have produced some very good players and were having a renaissance of sorts with an increasing amount playing for colleges in the US then they pull the plug entirely because they didn't medal at the Olympics. There is such wasted potential there. Even the BBL has improved to the point where there's a team in London playing in the Copper Box (which sits 7,000) and are finally getting their games broadcast live and coverage by the BBC sport section yet their federation can't get the funding that these Central American countries get from theirs! Even the US sponsors sports most don't care about.

markkanen
06-27-2018, 05:07 PM
Susijengi will play against Czech Republic, on 29. June, and against Iceland, on 02. July. There will be not empty chair against Iceland!

Roster: Koponen, Salin and Markkanen are coming back!

Dtown
06-27-2018, 10:51 PM
So remember when I said the Brits got their finances settled? Well....

https://inews.co.uk/sport/british-basketball-rescue-deal-verge-collapse/

I thought the situation was hard to comprehend before but this seems malicious incompetence. It hurts since I've followed them since they began their qualifying journey before the 2012 Olympics.

If this falls through and they fail to win both games this window it isn't a big deal for FIBA. However if they do manage to qualify it could be a headache going forward.

CHBB
06-28-2018, 02:07 AM
Me too, DTown.

This is so unbelievably ridiculous given the major strides they've made since 2011. The Deng Academy, the success of their U-23/U-20/U-18, etc, the major upgrade in talent compared to that 2012 team, and even the huge strides the BBL has taken. They should easily be able to beat Israel and Estonia, even without Deng or their other NBA players. But the people running things couldn't care less.

Dtown
06-28-2018, 02:59 AM
Really that's what gets me, is that what they gain out of this is baffling to me.

In the initial funding scandal I at least got it, easy gold medals should get more funding because it makes us look good. I disagreed with the principle but the logic was easy to get.

This seems more like, we were happier competing in u18 european competitions individually as England, Scotland, and Wales and never winning anything. Bonkers.

CHBB
06-28-2018, 03:39 AM
I can understand the national pride for Ireland and Scotland but they have to realize that they have literally zero shot of doing anything as individual federations. They as a united federation are still having to work really damn hard to produce the kinds of players that form a strong national team, and they think they can do it individually? It would take decades, if it were even possible at all. This isn't soccer. Demographics and athleticism absolutely come into play. Scotland and Ireland would be on the level of like Rwanda or something on their own.

It's completely illogical to not just stay combined as one federation and pool your money. Then maybe quite a few years down the road you can separate again.

I hope this isn't because of Scotland's success at the Commonwealth Games. They weren't playing the class of Europe, nor the US, and any strong sides they did play didn't have their NBA players. They would have gotten absolutely killed by Bulgaria even.

BiHBasket
06-28-2018, 03:30 PM
Situation with the rosters in the group F:

Bosna and Herzegovina

We are without Musa and Nurkic, but also without Gordic, Milosevic, Stipanovic etc., we're in very bad situation with our roster.

France

All of the French stars are with the team, this is very close to the strongest possible France. Gobert, Batum, Fournier, De Colo etc., all of them will play.

Belgium

They are in problems same as Bosnia, they can't count on: Lojeski, Lecomte, Obasohan, Serron, Tumba, De Zeeuw, Vanwijn etc. In the other hand, first time in the qualifications Van Rossom is available.

Russia

They are without Shved and Vorontshevich, but pretty much everyone else is there, including Mozgov.

BiHBasket
06-28-2018, 04:07 PM
Game BIH - France will be in the Mejdan hall, Tuzla. But to get a permission from FIBA to play in that hall, a lot of money was invested in a new court, new scoreboards, new locker rooms and other things.

For example, locker rooms in Mejdan before and just before this match:

https://image.ibb.co/hQZaqT/svlamej.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/fdVRx8/12021_mejdan4_1530198029.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/nFvC4o/12021_mejdan2_1530198028.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/dGeBx8/12021_mejdan7_1530198030.jpg

CHBB
06-28-2018, 05:27 PM
Wow. That before picture is crazy.

Tough break for you guys, losing Musa on top of not having Nurkic and others. Can't blame the kid though considering he's a rookie now.

markkanen
06-28-2018, 08:42 PM
Me too, DTown.

This is so unbelievably ridiculous given the major strides they've made since 2011. The Deng Academy, the success of their U-23/U-20/U-18, etc, the major upgrade in talent compared to that 2012 team, and even the huge strides the BBL has taken. They should easily be able to beat Israel and Estonia, even without Deng or their other NBA players. But the people running things couldn't care less.

I doubt it. Israel and Estonia are stronger teams than Great Britain.


I can understand the national pride for Ireland and Scotland but they have to realize that they have literally zero shot of doing anything as individual federations. They as a united federation are still having to work really damn hard to produce the kinds of players that form a strong national team, and they think they can do it individually? It would take decades, if it were even possible at all. This isn't soccer. Demographics and athleticism absolutely come into play. Scotland and Ireland would be on the level of like Rwanda or something on their own.

It's completely illogical to not just stay combined as one federation and pool your money. Then maybe quite a few years down the road you can separate again.

I hope this isn't because of Scotland's success at the Commonwealth Games. They weren't playing the class of Europe, nor the US, and any strong sides they did play didn't have their NBA players. They would have gotten absolutely killed by Bulgaria even.


Actually, Ireland isn't part of United Kingdom, so why would they play for them? It's like you said that Estonia players should play for Latvia. That doesn't make sense. Scotland, Northern Ireland, England, Wels yes, but Ireland is out of picture.

Dtown
06-28-2018, 08:56 PM
Absolutely massive win for Croatia. While they're not out of the woods yet, they might go from being out to finishing second.

CHBB
06-28-2018, 10:44 PM
I doubt it. Israel and Estonia are stronger teams than Great Britain.




Actually, Ireland isn't part of United Kingdom, so why would they play for them? It's like you said that Estonia players should play for Latvia. That doesn't make sense. Scotland, Northern Ireland, England, Wels yes, but Ireland is out of picture. I thought it was clear I was referring to Northern Ireland. I'm of mostly Irish heritage so trust me I know.

I completely disagree that Israel and Estonia are better than GB. GB has far superior athletes and has come a long, long way. Olaseni is a guy who could play in the NBA. Chuku is another very solid big with good size. All of them can shoot, too. Yeboah I think might be one of the most underrated players in the NCAA with his versatility and shooting ability. And they have the athletic Ryan Richards for the first time in seven years. Not to mention Justin Robinson, Carl Wheattle, and Josh Steel (who is talented but kind of a combo guard ala Jordan Clarkson). It's just a question of playing as a team and really digging in.

CHBB
06-28-2018, 10:52 PM
Here's another piece on the British funding situation that sheds light on the perspective from the side of the home country federations.

https://www.hoopsfix.com/2018/06/in-fighting-between-bbf-home-nations-continues-as-bailout-threatened/

CHBB
06-28-2018, 11:56 PM
Spain continues to avenge their Eurobasket finish, now a perfect 5-0 in these qualifiers.

Dtown
06-29-2018, 08:20 PM
Despite all of the British financial problems they are still very much alive beating Estonia 74 - 65. A win against Israel and a Greece win over Estonia gets them in, or if they beat Israel by a large enough total.

markkanen
06-29-2018, 09:22 PM
To bad for Iceland and Finland. Iceland again lose with very slim margine against Bulgary, guys for Balkan are always very lucky. And Finland lose against Czech Republic, with Markkanen with only 13 points, very bad.

I was hoping that Finland and Iceland could go to the second round, but now this is almost impossible. :(


I thought it was clear I was referring to Northern Ireland. I'm of mostly Irish heritage so trust me I know.

I completely disagree that Israel and Estonia are better than GB. GB has far superior athletes and has come a long, long way. Olaseni is a guy who could play in the NBA. Chuku is another very solid big with good size. All of them can shoot, too. Yeboah I think might be one of the most underrated players in the NCAA with his versatility and shooting ability. And they have the athletic Ryan Richards for the first time in seven years. Not to mention Justin Robinson, Carl Wheattle, and Josh Steel (who is talented but kind of a combo guard ala Jordan Clarkson). It's just a question of playing as a team and really digging in.

Northern Ireland have a national basketball team? I was sure that Ireland have a national team, and Northern Ireland have not.


Despite all of the British financial problems they are still very much alive beating Estonia 74 - 65. A win against Israel and a Greece win over Estonia gets them in, or if they beat Israel by a large enough total.

If Greece beat Estonia, and Great Britain beat Israel, they will all have a 2 victories and 2 loses in games between. Now, Israel has +11 point difference, Estonia -10, and Great Britain -1. So, if Estonia win against Greece, than GB need 7+ point difference, and if Estonia lose, than any victory would be enough.

CHBB
06-29-2018, 09:47 PM
You are completely missing the point. The point is that they have absolutely no chance as separate federations.

None of the teams Scotland faced were strong teams. They were all severely depleted. It's like playing a JV team and thinking you beat the real squad.

Glad to see GB got this first win. Now they need to take care of business against Israel and Greece needs to beat Estonia.

markkanen
06-29-2018, 10:40 PM
You are completely missing the point. .

Well, point is ...


I can understand the national pride for Ireland and Scotland but they have to realize that they have literally zero shot of doing anything as individual federations. They as a united federation are still having to work really damn hard to produce the kinds of players that form a strong national team, and they think they can do it individually? It would take decades, if it were even possible at all. This isn't soccer. Demographics and athleticism absolutely come into play. Scotland and Ireland would be on the level of like Rwanda or something on their own.

It's completely illogical to not just stay combined as one federation and pool your money. Then maybe quite a few years down the road you can separate again.

I hope this isn't because of Scotland's success at the Commonwealth Games. They weren't playing the class of Europe, nor the US, and any strong sides they did play didn't have their NBA players. They would have gotten absolutely killed by Bulgaria even.

Ireland has nothing to do with Great Britain, and Northern Ireland doesn't exist in basketball world. So, only Scotland and Wels.

CHBB
06-29-2018, 11:49 PM
No, that's not the point. That's nitpicking. Also... Ireland and Northern Ireland are the same place regardless of the official border so they clearly do have something to do with GB.

Dtown
07-01-2018, 05:24 PM
Looks like Croatia will live to fight another round. Up 27 in the fourth over Romania.

pohani komarac
07-01-2018, 05:54 PM
Looks like Croatia will live to fight another round. Up 27 in the fourth over Romania.

It shows how this FIBA qualis are unfair, senslese move by FIBA. It's not just unfair for Croatia, but unfair for Romania. They had to play agaist us with NBA players, Netherlad did not.

CHBB
07-01-2018, 08:31 PM
Slovenia and Italy both lose to inferior teams.

Dtown
07-01-2018, 08:44 PM
2nd round standings

Spain 6-0
Turkey 4-2
Latvia 4-2
Montenegro 3-3
Ukraine 3-3
Slovenia 2-4

Slovenia's bad losses have them in an unfortunate spot. I'd call it a group of death but Group J is basically Lithuania and then chaos.

CHBB
07-01-2018, 08:53 PM
Losing Musa killed them. Absolute worst time for that to happen.

Mindozas
07-01-2018, 09:01 PM
Losing Musa killed them. Absolute worst time for that to happen.

Musa plays for Bosnia/Herzegovina :) I guess you meant Doncic

CHBB
07-01-2018, 09:05 PM
Haha thanks. Yeah. This heat has my brain fried.

No Goran and no Doncic. I noticed even Zoran isn't on the team? Found that odd.

Dtown
07-01-2018, 09:14 PM
The previously mentioned group I

Obviously I think Lithuania progresses (honestly depending on results, they might manage it first window), and Italy is a solid pick for #2 despite this awful window...beyond that *shrug*

Lithuania 6-0
Italy 4-2
Poland 3-3
Netherlands 3-3
Croatia 3-3
Hungary 3-3

Mindozas
07-01-2018, 09:17 PM
Haha thanks. Yeah. This heat has my brain fried.

No Goran and no Doncic. I noticed even Zoran isn't on the team? Found that odd.

He torn ACL in February, so still recovering. Really unlucky, the same injury he suffered in February 2017

CHBB
07-01-2018, 09:29 PM
Ah yeah that's a bad injury. I don't really know too much about them beyond who's missing. How is their guard depth?

Mindozas
07-01-2018, 09:42 PM
Ah yeah that's a bad injury. I don't really know too much about them beyond who's missing. How is their guard depth?

It's hard to tell without watching any of their games now, no idea what kind of rotation coach is using, but looking at the names, I'd say that they are badly missing good PG. With Blazic, Prepelic they has decent shooters/scorers at SG/SF, but without proper PG it must be really hard to run the game. So Doncic and Dragic missings hurts even more

CHBB
07-01-2018, 10:02 PM
That makes sense. I remember how much they relied on Goran and Zoran over the years.

DTown, I'd have to think Croatia is the third team in that group to advance but who knows really...

Dtown
07-01-2018, 10:10 PM
That makes sense. I remember how much they relied on Goran and Zoran over the years.

DTown, I'd have to think Croatia is the third team in that group to advance but who knows really...

Croatia at their best, oh yeah obviously, but two of the three windows they're not going to have their best so *shrug* I have no idea what to expect.

CHBB
07-01-2018, 10:23 PM
Well yeah I was speaking entirely of this current short window. Making it to the World Cup is another thing entirely.

Darrell Armstrong
07-02-2018, 08:57 AM
This is madness. With the previous system, the European Champion had a guaranteed spot at the next tournament, either Worlds, or Olympics. Now Slovenia has a very slim chance to even classify!

How can you call it a "fair" system if the best teams don't even have a chance to compete with their full rosters?

Picek
07-02-2018, 03:30 PM
Croatia at their best, oh yeah obviously, but two of the three windows they're not going to have their best so *shrug* I have no idea what to expect.september window we are playing Lithuania in Zagreb on september 14. and Poland in Poland on september 17.
both games we should be able to present our strongest team.
that means Šarić, Bogdanović and Zubac who played this window plus Hezonja, Bender, Simon, possibly Žižić.
we need to take both games and try to win both games against Hungary later on.
that would probably be enough to qualify..
easier said then done.

Straight forward
07-02-2018, 03:39 PM
september window we are playing Lithuania in Zagreb on september 14. and Poland in Poland on september 17.
both games we should be able to present our strongest team.
that means Šarić, Bogdanović and Zubac who played this window plus Hezonja, Bender, Simon, possibly Žižić.
we need to take both games and try to win both games against Hungary later on.
that would probably be enough to qualify..
easier said then done.

Should be a nice game between Lithuania and Croatia if your best players comes. As for Lithuania, both Sabonis and Valanciunas said they have to talk with the clubs. Euroleague players as Kuzminskas and Lekavicius should be there. Would be quite a battle if both team will gather best players.

I think you taking down Poland, no brainer.

PS: How good is Hezonja now and how much ready is Bender?

CHBB
07-02-2018, 03:50 PM
I always forget both Zizic and Zubac are Croatian. You all have better bigs than people give you credit for. Maybe not offensively versatile like Jokic but strong for sure. Zubac was the Lakers' best player towards the end of his rookie year before an ankle injury ended it prematurely.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-02-2018, 06:31 PM
It's hard to tell without watching any of their games now, no idea what kind of rotation coach is using, but looking at the names, I'd say that they are badly missing good PG. With Blazic, Prepelic they has decent shooters/scorers at SG/SF, but without proper PG it must be really hard to run the game. So Doncic and Dragic missings hurts even more
Well, even if Nikolič played pathetic, Rupnik would be more than enough to handle Montenegro's PG's. Not to mention Prepelič can do a really god job at PG as well. We lost rebounding though, haven't seen the stats, but that and inabiity to stop Montenegro's bigs was really frustrating. Vidmar would be a complete game changer there. Prepelič got pretty mad that Omić wasn't called up. Probably about not calling up Udrih as well. He might be old, but on this level still way above anything we've got.

I completely understand euro champ not being given an automatical invitation, though. They should than do the same for all continents.

This "3rd window" is the most problematic one imo, some players are at the start of preparations for a new season, since they haven't played for month and a half, others barely ended with their seasons 2 weeks ago etc. It's hard for them to prepare well.

CHBB
07-02-2018, 08:25 PM
Well so much for Team GB.

Can't blame anybody but themselves for not getting it done in a winnable game. Congrats to Israel and Estonia.

Dtown
07-02-2018, 08:55 PM
Well so much for Team GB.

Can't blame anybody but themselves for not getting it done in a winnable game. Congrats to Israel and Estonia.

The Brits did what they always do, be competitve, be close then lose when it matters. Still I hope this isn't the end for them in regards to their financial drama.

Pretty telling the players barely waited post game to blast the situation as monumentally stupid. www.hoopsfix.com/2018/07/clark-gb-players-release-statement-condemning-basketballs-leadership/

CHBB
07-02-2018, 11:06 PM
Yup. They're like the teams who every once in awhile luck out into a wild card playoff spot yet basically use that strategy every year.

Take care of business. Simple as that.

If anything, not winning this game will probably just prove UK Sport right in their eyes and the eyes of the public. That's what's a shame. They did it to themselves this time.

markkanen
07-03-2018, 12:42 AM
I told you, Great Britain is worse than Israel. No doubt about that, british players just aren't very good for this level.

Win for Susijengi against Iceland. This is expected win, 91-77. Lauri drops 28 points, with 4-5 dunks, and Petteri and Sasu played well too. Too bad for Iceland, they might won both games against Bulgaria. Too bad for lose against Czech Republic, now they are on 5-1 score, and new standings (with all games counting) is:

France 6-0
Czech R. 5-1
Finland 3-3
Russia 3-3
Bulgaria 2-4
Bosnia 2-4

There are only two games for Finland with full squad, and this is home game against Bosnia, and away game against France. Then, Koponen, Salin, Markkanen will not be able to help, and the rest of team is too weak for this level of competition, and for teams like is France or Russia.

JGX
07-03-2018, 12:57 AM
The Brits did what they always do, be competitve, be close then lose when it matters. Still I hope this isn't the end for them in regards to their financial drama.


If I understand correctly, their next scheduled game will be a Eurobasket 2021 pre-qualifier away to Armenia in September. Good luck selling that one to UK Sport. Hopefully their women's program doesn't get dragged down along with the men.

Lots of blame to go around for the GB situation but let's not forget the role that FIBA played by holding off on confirming their host spot at the London Olympics, forcing them to focus all their resources on achieving short term results rather than building something sustainable.

Obina
07-03-2018, 07:43 AM
It's annoying to watch this serbian B team. Micic and Peno are the worst PG duo in serbian history.

And we will play both games against Greece with B team. For the luck group is easy and we will qualify to WC, that's only matter. But system is idiotic for sure.

R1ou
07-03-2018, 12:01 PM
It's annoying to watch this serbian B team. Micic and Peno are the worst PG duo in serbian history.

And we will play both games against Greece with B team. For the luck group is easy and we will qualify to WC, that's only matter. But system is idiotic for sure.

We play early September which means that both teams might be able to field up a good roster.

Levenspiel
07-03-2018, 12:14 PM
It's annoying to watch this serbian B team. Micic and Peno are the worst PG duo in serbian history.
Micic is already on Efes mood, 0/12 fg... :D

CHBB
07-03-2018, 03:07 PM
I told you, Great Britain is worse than Israel. No doubt about that, british players just aren't very good for this level. I completely disagree. It's not the quality of the players. It's the lack of discipline and very lacking coaching structure and development system.

The only thing you can really say is their guard play is lacking without Andrew Lawrence but their size and athleticism down low and on the wing should've made that a non-issue.

BiHBasket
07-03-2018, 06:15 PM
I had a hope that Belgium will let us win because they were already eliminated before this round and we needed points for the second phase:mad:

Also most of our players don't really care that much about the WC 2019. It isn't just a Nurkic(0 games played), even our completely average Eurocup at best level players missed tons of games because of false injuries or without any explanation at all.

Still, we're honored to be here, Bosnian team started from the pre - qualifications and now we advanced from such a strong group(France, Russia, Belgium).

Nemanja Gordic, who is at this moment third most important player of the national team after Nurkic and Musa missed last two games without real reason and he may not play for the national team anymore. Buducnost will play in the Euroleague in the next season so not like he could play that often anymore.

R1ou
07-03-2018, 06:26 PM
I had a hope that Belgium will let us win because they were already eliminated before this round and we needed points for the second phase:mad:

Also most of our players don't really care that much about the WC 2019. It isn't just a Nurkic(0 games played), even our completely average Eurocup at best level players missed tons of games because of false injuries or without any explanation at all.

Still, we're honored to be here, Bosnian team started from the pre - qualifications and now we advanced from such a strong group(France, Russia, Belgium).

Nemanja Gordic, who is at this moment third most important player of the national team after Nurkic and Musa missed last two games without real reason and he may not play for the national team anymore. Buducnost will play in the Euroleague in the next season so not like he could play that often anymore.

Still you'll get to face Bulgaria, Czech Republic and Finland and I think they're at least winnable if they don't field their star players (Satoransky, Vesely, Markannen, Kopponen, Vezenkov etc). Definitely you got at least a chance to advance even though I agree that winning Belgium would give you a huge boost.

BiHBasket
07-03-2018, 07:19 PM
Still you'll get to face Bulgaria, Czech Republic and Finland and I think they're at least winnable if they don't field their star players (Satoransky, Vesely, Markannen, Kopponen, Vezenkov etc). Definitely you got at least a chance to advance even though I agree that winning Belgium would give you a huge boost.

Well, I don't like when teams miss players, even our opponents, so ideal situation would be Czech Republic, Finland and Bulgaria with full squads, but also BiH with full squad and let the better win.

Let's face it, how many people wants to see Finish league players vs Bosnian league players;) Make it Markannen, Koponen, Salin VS Nurkic, Gordic, Musa at least in september:o

markkanen
07-04-2018, 09:01 PM
Well, I don't like when teams miss players, even our opponents, so ideal situation would be Czech Republic, Finland and Bulgaria with full squads, but also BiH with full squad and let the better win.

Let's face it, how many people wants to see Finish league players vs Bosnian league players;) Make it Markannen, Koponen, Salin VS Nurkic, Gordic, Musa at least in september:o

Let's make it! :) Actually, all players will be available on september window, and that includes Finland - BiH game. I don't know why BiH missed so many players in june and july? Where are Nurkic, Mirza, and other players?

I think that there is a zero chance for Finland to qualify to the world cup 2019. I mean, without their best players they can't beat teams like Russia. Games vs. Czech Republic were crucial.

BiHBasket
07-05-2018, 12:41 AM
Let's make it! :) Actually, all players will be available on september window, and that includes Finland - BiH game. I don't know why BiH missed so many players in june and july? Where are Nurkic, Mirza, and other players?

I think that there is a zero chance for Finland to qualify to the world cup 2019. I mean, without their best players they can't beat teams like Russia. Games vs. Czech Republic were crucial.

Teletovic retired from the national team, it isn't even sure will he ever play basketball again(he is without club and not trying to find one) because of health problems.

Nurkic is a free agent in this summer, and most NBA players skip national team duties in that situation.

Musa is a rookie and Nets insisted that he skip those two games.

Gordic didn't show up on the national team gathering without any explanation, national team coach Vujosevic said that he is mad because his family home which was destroyed during the war still isn't repaired(bizarre, only in Bosnia;)). It's a big story in BiH Gordic may never play for the national team again.

Basketball Association tried to find a American for the national team, first they failed with the Wilbekin and then with Josh Adams.

Stipanovic, Milosevic, Halilovic etc. were injured or sick.


Ajdin Penava, who played in college and coach Vujosevic belives he will be important player for the national team in the future, decided to focus on Summer league and skip those two games.


So yes, we played without three key players in this moment, without American(we will find one sooner or later;)) and dozens of important rotation players, and that's way we lost in Belgium although we needed points, not them.

markkanen
07-06-2018, 04:12 PM
What about Sulejmanovic? He has played for Finland u-20 national team, but then he switched to Bosnia and Herzegovina NT.

BiHBasket
07-06-2018, 04:47 PM
What about Sulejmanovic? He has played for Finland u-20 national team, but then he switched to Bosnia and Herzegovina NT.

Missed those two games because of "mumps". Till now he didn't show much for the national team, but he had decent last season in Breogan, they won spanish 2nd division and will play in the ACB in the next season, Emir as loaned player from Fuenlabrada averaged 11.4 points and 6.7 rebounds for them, and then returned from loan.

BiHBasket
07-20-2018, 02:58 PM
BiH prelim roster for the next two games, of course it may change if some players decide to quit and some others replace them:

PG - Gordić (88', 6'4''), Gegić (98', 6'7''), Zahiragić (95', 6'2''), Rikalo (94', 6'1''), Talić (98', 6'2'')

SG - Musa (99', 6'9''), Atić (97', 6'7''), Hasandić (90', 6'3'')

SF - Milošević (85', 6'8''), Vrabac (94', 6'8''), Durmo (97', 6'8''), Buza (95', 6'8''), Muratović (95', 6'7'')

PF - Lazić (96', 6'8''), Sulejmanović (95', 6'9''), Penava (97', 6'10''), Alibegović (95', 6'8'')

C - Nurkić (94', 7'0''), Stipanović (86', 6'10''), Kikanović (88', 6'11''), Halilović (91', 6'10''), Tomić (93', 6'10''), Rikić (90', 7'1''), Lončar (96', 7'0'')

Italian Pride
08-02-2018, 01:04 PM
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38260591_1803118286436243_8728212940995428352_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=65af2bf01a86bb83ee96b0fd8f56c832&oe=5BD6700B

Our coach Meo,has named 31 players

Hackett has already called himself out

who will be the next?I suppose Pascolo(he's recovering form an injury),Gentile(training camp with Rockets),Jeff Brooks(seem that he doesn't have the italian passport yet) ,Gallinari and Belinellli

We'll see :D

Edith Compos
08-02-2018, 01:41 PM
The program

25/31 August

Workouts in Pinzolo

September 1st

Scrimmage with Vanoli Cremona in Pinzolo

2/5 September

Workouts in Pinzolo

6 September

Transfer to Hamburg

7/8 September

Supercup 2018

7 September

17.30 Italy-Czech Republic

20.00 Germany-Turkey

September 8th
5.00 pm Final 3rd-4th place

8.00 pm Final 1st and 2nd place

September 9th

Transfer to Bologna

10/13 September

Workouts in Bologna

September 14th

20.15 Italy-Poland (PalaDozza, live Sky Sports HD)

September 15th

Transfer to Debrecen (Hungary)

September 16th

Workouts in Debrecen

September 17th

Hungary-Italy (Fonix Hall, schedule to be defined, live Sky Sports HD)

September 18th

Return to Italy and end of the meeting

BiHBasket
08-04-2018, 09:04 AM
After the nice showing in the pre - qualifications for the 2019 WC, Armenia decide to withdraw from the pre - qualifications for the 2021 EC(where they participated in the first round), because the lack of money.

It's a lost for the basketball, their newly formed national team wasn't bad at all, I would say they were among 30 best national teams in Europe.

cigarafterten
08-10-2018, 07:35 AM
Italy - Hungary will be played in Livorno (Tuscany) on 22 February 2019.

BiHBasket
08-12-2018, 04:32 PM
Is it finally happening with Len:eek:


@alex_proshuta
2h2 hours ago

According to Ukrainian federation, both Svi Mikhailiuk & Alex Len declared their will to play for Ukraine NT during September #FIBAWC window. Now FBU are in talks with NBA on players insurance. It's the most important question to be solved them to play vs Spain & Montenegro

BiHBasket
08-17-2018, 10:55 PM
From the interview with the Satoransky for the media in Czech Republic (google translate did the job)


The summer has been subordinated to being best prepared for the new NBA season in which he will fight for a new one. That is why in June he missed two matches for the national team. In September, however, the national team will help in two matches with Russia and Bosnia and Herzegovina in the world championship qualification.

"These are games that can be won and bring us closer. Although Russia will be very strong and never plays easily in Bosnia. I remember when I played at the age of sixteen and it was nothing pleasant. But the boys have done great in the first phase and we will try to tighten it now, "he said.

However, the question remains whether the second major star Jan will join the team. "Of course I want him to represent because he's probably the best teammate I've ever played with. We really understand and when we are together, the representation is 50 percent better. But it's up to him. I will not persuade him. We are at an age when we are not convinced. It's up to him, "Satoranski added.

BiHBasket
08-30-2018, 05:04 PM
BiH 16 players list:


PG - Gordić (88', 6'4''), Gegić (98', 6'7''), Zahiragić (95', 6'2''), Talić (98', 6'2'')

SG - Musa (99', 6'9''), Atić (97', 6'7''), Hasandić (90', 6'3'')

SF - Milošević (85', 6'8''), Vrabac (94', 6'8'')

PF - Lazić (96', 6'8''), Sulejmanović (95', 6'9''), Penava (97', 6'10''), Alibegović (95', 6'8'')

C - Nurkić (94', 7'0''), Stipanović (86', 6'10''), Kikanović (88', 6'11'')


BAD

- BiH national team coach Duško Vujošević will miss those two games because of health problems. His assistant coach M. Bajramović will maybe replace him, i say maybe because there is a big chance he will take some club right now and we will stay even without assistent coach. Nobody knows who will be our coach in those two games.




There are rumors about Jasmin Repeša as our new coach.

Straight forward
08-31-2018, 08:16 PM
There are rumors about Jasmin Repeša as our new coach.

You don't have a coach yet? Should be really messy federation TBH :D

BiHBasket
08-31-2018, 11:27 PM
You don't have a coach yet? Should be really messy federation TBH :D

They even decided to delay national team gathering for couple of days more because we don't have a coach. After we lost Vujosevic because he is preparing for kidney transplantation, and his first assistant found a job in Hong Kong;), there is nobody left.

BiHBasket
09-01-2018, 07:00 PM
Jasmin Repesa confirmed that he will be our coach for at least those two games vs Finland and Czech Republic. He also said that he already had a talk with Gordic(they know each other from the Cedevita days) and that he will play, now that's something new:rolleyes:

BiHBasket
09-01-2018, 08:05 PM
As it seems, we will finally see Ukraine with all of their best players:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnLezUQlUbs/?taken-by=fbu_official

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnA0KJClqA-/?taken-by=fbu_official

Prancūzėlis_ZLD
09-03-2018, 02:57 PM
French roster for preparation games (Tournoi de Paris) is as below :

Nicolas Batum - Charlotte Hornets
Moustapha Fall - Lokomotiv Kuban
Edwin Jackson - Buducnost Podgorica
Mouhammadou Jaiteh - CSP Limoges
Axel Julien - JDA Dijon
Charles Kahudi - Lyon Vileurbanne
Alain Koffi - Gravelines Dunkerque
Lahaou Konaté - Nanterre 92
Paul Lacombe - AS Monaco
Mathias Lessort - Malaga
Amine Noua - Lyon Vileurbanne
Jonathan Rousselle - CSP Limoges

After 10/09, Andrew Albicy (MoraBanc Andorra), Vincent Poirier (Baskonia) and Nando De Colo (CSKA Moscow) should join the team and be available for qualification games versus Bulgaria and Finland.

Absents : Fabien Causeur, Boris Diaw, Evan Fournier, Rudy Gobert, Thomas Heurtel, Louis Labeyrie, Frank Ntilikina, ...

BiHBasket
09-04-2018, 01:43 AM
Both Satoransky and Vesely are with the Czech Republic national team. They are together in the national team for the first time after Eurobasket 2015. As it seems both BiH and Czech Republic will have something close to their strongest possible rosters for the game in Sarajevo.

Len landed in Ukraine. History in the making.

Italian Pride
09-06-2018, 04:58 PM
Finally Jeff Brooks with italian passport

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmbIJqCX4AEvn20.jpg:large

He will be available for the next two games

markkanen
09-09-2018, 08:41 PM
Today is Teemu Rannikko's and Hanno Möttölä's birthday. Two legends was born on the same day! :)

Susijengi without Markkanen against Bosnia and France. :(

Koponen, Koivisto, Salin, Wilson, Kotti etc. will be there. :)

Over 5400 tickets sold for the important game against Bosnia in Metro Arena in Espoo.


After the nice showing in the pre - qualifications for the 2019 WC, Armenia decide to withdraw from the pre - qualifications for the 2021 EC(where they participated in the first round), because the lack of money.

It's a lost for the basketball, their newly formed national team wasn't bad at all, I would say they were among 30 best national teams in Europe.

They were absent for years. Is there other country, beside Norway and Ireland without their national basketball team?

R1ou
09-10-2018, 02:29 AM
Today is Teemu Rannikko's and Hanno Möttölä's birthday. Two legends was born on the same day! :)

Susijengi without Markkanen against Bosnia and France. :(

Koponen, Koivisto, Salin, Wilson, Kotti etc. will be there. :)

Over 5400 tickets sold for the important game against Bosnia in Metro Arena in Espoo.



They were absent for years. Is there other country, beside Norway and Ireland without their national basketball team?

I think Moldova

BiHBasket
09-10-2018, 07:02 PM
Our 12 man for Finland were announced today:


1 - Gegic (Partizan), Talic (Igokea)
2 - Musa (Brooklyn), Atic (free agent), Hasandic (Sloboda Tuzla)
3/4 - Milosevic (Lavrio), Vrabac (Spars Sarajevo), Lazic (Olimpija), Alibegovic (Roma)
5 - Nurkic (Portland), Stipanovic (Cedevita), Kikanovic (Monaco)



Our weak spot is a PG position, both of them are born in 1998, they lack experience and have many flaws in their game. In the last season Gegic played for Bayern Munchen reserve squad and Talic in Bosnian league(half profesional).

We also lack any real power forward in the roster, for those "3/4" guys small forward is a primary position. And what we really lack are good 3 point shooters, to be fair most of our roster can't shoot well even free throws.

This is actually the first time ever in offical games that we have all of our three best centers in the roster. Kikanovic is still in France and will fly directly to Finland when rest of the team will already be there.


Absences:

PG Gordic (disagreements with the Basketball Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina)
PF/C Halilovic (injury)
PF/C Sulejmanovic (injury)
PF /C Penava (just signed for Baskonia and it was mutual decision that it was best for him to stay with the club)

markkanen
09-12-2018, 11:27 AM
I think Moldova

Their NT compete in FIBA European Championship for Small Countries. Norway and Ireland too. This is the first time in many years that Norway have their basketball NT.


Our 12 man for Finland were announced today:

Our weak spot is a PG position, both of them are born in 1998, they lack experience and have many flaws in their game. In the last season Gegic played for Bayern Munchen reserve squad and Talic in Bosnian league(half profesional).

We also lack any real power forward in the roster, for those "3/4" guys small forward is a primary position. And what we really lack are good 3 point shooters, to be fair most of our roster can't shoot well even free throws.

This is actually the first time ever in offical games that we have all of our three best centers in the roster. Kikanovic is still in France and will fly directly to Finland when rest of the team will already be there.


Absences:

PG Gordic (disagreements with the Basketball Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina)
PF/C Halilovic (injury)
PF/C Sulejmanovic (injury)
PF /C Penava (just signed for Baskonia and it was mutual decision that it was best for him to stay with the club)

Very strong C position, Finland doesn't have proper responce for players like Nurkic or Stipanovic.

Dirtyh
09-12-2018, 06:57 PM
Very strong C position, Finland doesn't have proper responce for players like Nurkic or Stipanovic.

You are right but they can't play together and their guards are having hard times to pass the ball to them. Bosnia has giant edge on rebounds and in paint but then again they have no answer for Koponen. I think that Salin is pretty good match up against Musa. If Finland is going to win if they are having normal shooting day.

I'm disappointed that Sulejmanovic can't play, wanted to see what kind of reactions Dettman had shown..

Nemanja
09-13-2018, 01:52 PM
My predictions for today and tomorrow are winings of France,Czech Republic,Finland,Germany,Israel,Serbia,Spain,Latvi a,Turkey,Hungary,Lithuania,Italy.About qualifiers on World Cup Group I 1 Spain 2 Latvia3 Slovenia 4 Turkey5 Montenegro 6 Ukraine .
Group J 1 Lithuania 2 Italy 3 Croatia 4 Poland 5 Hungary 6 Netherlands .
Group K 1 France 2 Czech Republic 3 Russia 4 Finland 5 Bih 6 Bulgaria.
Group L 1 Greece 2 Germany 3 Serbia 4 Israel 5 Georgia 6 Estonia .

markkanen
09-13-2018, 03:48 PM
You are right but they can't play together and their guards are having hard times to pass the ball to them. Bosnia has giant edge on rebounds and in paint but then again they have no answer for Koponen. I think that Salin is pretty good match up against Musa. If Finland is going to win if they are having normal shooting day.

I'm disappointed that Sulejmanovic can't play, wanted to see what kind of reactions Dettman had shown..

Looking to roster:

PG Koponen, Aidoo, Tahvanainen
SG Salin, Kanervo, Palmi
SF Huff, Nuutinen
PF Alex Murphy, Madsen, Jantunen
C Kotti

Very young players, I hope that Jantunen and Tahvanainen will be a long term solutions, they are only 18 year old. And Madsen, Palmi, Aidoo ... are members of same junior generation. First five, something like: Koponen - Salin - Huff - Nuutinen/Murphy - Kotti. These are the best of currently available players for sure.

It's pretty obvious that Finland has problems with lack of big and tall players. 37 year old Kotti have to play because there aren't any decent centers in Finland. Any national team with good frontcourt will use this. Bosnia first.

I agree with you about normal shooting day, live by shoot, die by shoot. We will see.

Dtown
09-13-2018, 08:21 PM
Germany and Greece will both qualify for the World Cup with one more win.

markkanen
09-14-2018, 09:59 AM
Very odd game in Espoo. Like Dirtyh said, excelent shooting gave Finland a large margin, but also bosnian players made so many mistakes, so many turnovers. Five - six minutes left, and Finland has 21 points lead, and suddenly that lead reduced to only 4 (81-77) and two free throws for Musa. Very important win, with much luck.

Nurkic dominated in the paint, with many 2+1 points, many fouls on him. Finland don't have decent option in C or PF, with five like: Koponen - Salin - Nuutinen - Murphy - Huff, nobody is able to stop Nurkic. Despite that, BiH played very bad in first 30 minutes of game, and because of that they lost.

Excelent shooting game for Sasu Salin, he was in fire.
Solid party for Koponen, he was a main player, he is a main option in the Lauri's absence.
It's good to see some young players that shined in yesterday game, like Jantunen, who make points, rebounds, plays decent defence.

Palmi, Aidoo made their contribution, Madsen not soo much because of fouls. Kotti, good to see him, only because he is only option on C right now.

Bulgaria won against France and that is the biggest surprise in yesterday games, but is is also good for Finns, because in case of same number of wins between Russia, Bulgaria and Finland, Finland would be in better position.

Now, current situation is:

France 6-1
Checz Republic 6-1
Finland 4-3
-----------------
Russia 3-4
Bulgaria 3-4
Bosnia 2-5

Russia's schedule: Bulgaria at home, Finland away, Checz Republic at home, Bulgaria away, Finland home
Finland's schedule: France away, Russia at home, Bosnia away, France home, Russia away
Bulgaria's schedule: Russia away, Bosnia home, France away, Russia home, Bosnia away

With 3 Russia home wins, 2 Finland home wins, and 3 wins for Bulgaria:

Finland 6-6, Russia 6-6 and Bulgaria 6-6.

Levenspiel
09-14-2018, 11:04 AM
Bulgaria won against France and that is the biggest surprise in yesterday games, but is is also good for Finns, because in case of same number of wins between Russia, Bulgaria and Finland, Finland would be in better position.

biggest surprise of the elimination round even? France was with its full squad.

OffTheWallJamal
09-14-2018, 06:29 PM
Ukraine beat Spain! Things getting interesting in Group I

Thank God Latvia was able to get Strelnieks and Timma for these two games in September, I really badly want to see Latvia in WC.

Latvia it looks like will beat Slovenia, Turkey having a tough time vs Montenegro.

Dtown
09-14-2018, 06:37 PM
Slovenia loses to Latvia 85-74. At this point they basically need to win all of their remaining games to have a chance at qualifying.

Straight forward
09-14-2018, 08:21 PM
Lithuania beats Croatia and complicates their chances to qualify. Bogdanovic had a monster third quarter with 15pts, but that wasn't enough.

Euro champs will probably have to wait next Euro champ...

BiHBasket
09-14-2018, 08:56 PM
BiH lost so many times against Finland(and never won a single game) that it's ridiculous(at least this time it wasn't by huge margin). Worst matchup for us in Europe. I would rather play Lithuania or Croatia, we beat both teams in official matches more than once.

We need to beat them finally to get rid of that "Finnish complex". Bosnian coaches, players and fans roll their eyes when they see them drawn in our group:mad:

BiHBasket
09-16-2018, 09:53 AM
Ticket prices are very different from state to state, for Finland - BiH cheapest ticket was 35 Euros, but you can attend Montenegro - Ukraine game for just 2 Euros. For the BiH - Czech Republic game you can buy tickets for 10 KM(5 Euros) and for 20 KM.

For the game Croatia - Lithuania there were tickets for 70 kuna(10 Euros) and for 100 kuna.

For the game Serbia - Estonia you can buy tickets for 500 dinara(4 Euros), and also for 750, 1000, 2500 and 5000 dinara.

markkanen
09-16-2018, 01:13 PM
BiH lost so many times against Finland(and never won a single game) that it's ridiculous(at least this time it wasn't by huge margin). Worst matchup for us in Europe. I would rather play Lithuania or Croatia, we beat both teams in official matches more than once.

We need to beat them finally to get rid of that "Finnish complex". Bosnian coaches, players and fans roll their eyes when they see them drawn in our group:mad:

Oh yes, indeed! :)

EuroBasket 2011: Finland - Bosnia 92-64
EuroBasket 2015: Finland - Bosnia 88-59

Bosnia is one of the best matchup for Finland.

Games against France is pretty exciting too. EuroBasket 2017 and win against them, Eurobasket 2015 and defeat in overtime...

Adon
09-16-2018, 04:52 PM
In spite of ref's favoritism, Greece won Georgiia and advanced to China.
Shengelia and especially Calathes played like superstars.

Dtown
09-16-2018, 04:53 PM
Epic finish to Greece/Georgia. Literal last second layup nets Greece a win 86-85, and qualifies them for the World Cup.

Oly_fan
09-16-2018, 04:56 PM
Epic finish to Greece/Georgia. Literal last second layup nets Greece a win 86-85, and qualifies them for the World Cup.

Last tenth of a second!

Dtown
09-16-2018, 06:01 PM
Good day for great games, after an epic comeback Germany looked dead to rights. Israel up 2 with the ball at the free throw line with .4 seconds remaining, misses the rim, allows Germany to inbound at mid court and the Germans send it to overtime.

edit: Germany completes the comeback, dominating on overtime winning 112 - 98 and qualifies for the World Cup.

R1ou
09-16-2018, 06:30 PM
I hope we'll have Koufos in China, Papagiannis is awful...

Adon
09-16-2018, 06:46 PM
I hope we'll have Koufos in China, Papagiannis is awful...

True, Papagiannis was a black hole defensively . Slower than ever, obviously he has serious issues with his physical condition. If he can't improve his athleticism considerably until China then he will be just another lost talent.

EverGreen
09-16-2018, 07:27 PM
Epic finish to Greece/Georgia. Literal last second layup nets Greece a win 86-85, and qualifies them for the World Cup.

Massive choke by Georgia!!! Congrays to Greece for qualifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmRC1PhKG1M

markkanen
09-16-2018, 07:37 PM
What happened in group K? What a stupid decisions, both Israel and Georgia. Israeli coach is joke, israeli players are joke, eight year old kids could win their game if they only had 2 free throws with 0,4 seconds left.

Now they both lost their chances to qualify to world cup. Congratulations to Serbia, Greece and Germany, they should play in WC no matter what, but this FIBA windows gave oportunity even to teams like Israel and Georgia.

Decent lost in France for Finland. On 54-24 I thought that is gonna be a disaster, but than 16 point difference in away game, in France wasn't that bad.

softice
09-16-2018, 08:14 PM
I don't know if it's mentioned already, Giannis Antetokounmpo will be in China for sure - if he is healthy. Not negotiations with Bucks about this tournament

Dtown
09-16-2018, 08:36 PM
Completely missed it but due to various tie breakers, the Czech Republic has qualified for the World Cup for the first time ever.

Terrorizer
09-16-2018, 08:55 PM
Completely missed it but due to various tie breakers, the Czech Republic has qualified for the World Cup for the first time ever.
And they have a really mediocre, unexciting team but somehow teams like laughable Shvedish Russia lost rebounding edge against them 44 - 21 and today BiH was also unable to overcome such a lousy team (for this they shoud put a fair part of blame on Musa who showed some atrocious decision-making once again).

Germany - Israel was a thriller, so many twists and turns. Israel was leading comfortably, then Germans were destroying them in the latter part of the 3th and begining of the 4th quarters achieving a sizeable lead but then hosts blew it out. In the end it was Tomer Ginat missing the rim with 0.4 seconds left and then Israel made an inexcusable defensive mistake which allowed for Schroeder to throw it out for Kleber's easy lay-up. In the overtime Israel just gave up. Nevertheless with Zoosman demonstrating some excellent offensive skills, Cohen playing the best basketball of his career and young Tamir Blatt showing the poise and potential to evolve into a true floor general, Israel looked promising.

On the other hand, Russia is terrible right now. Last EB we were 4th with a generally good performance and right now we lose to a "powerhouse" like Czechia and almost embarass ourselves against Bulgaria at home (and being thrashed with 20+ difference by Israel in a friendly game). I haven't watched both of these games. Seeing this team with clinical idiot Shved as its "leader" is just too painful. I suspect that Finns have decent chances against us even if absence of their top players will probably hurt them more than our team. Well, absence of Shved should be beneficial.

BiHBasket
09-16-2018, 10:44 PM
Jusuf bullied Vesely who is elite Euroleague center, but you really could see difference between him and a NBA center. We lost it anyway, and as a whole Czech Republic is a far better team.

Oly_fan
09-17-2018, 10:36 AM
Jusuf bullied Vesely who is elite Euroleague center, but you really could see difference between him and a NBA center. We lost it anyway, and as a whole Czech Republic is a far better team.

Without having seen the game, I guess that Sato and vesely bullied Nurkic plenty in the pnr.

BiHBasket
09-17-2018, 10:47 AM
Without having seen the game, I guess that Sato and vesely bullied Nurkic plenty in the pnr.

Czech centers:

Vesely, 4 points, 5 fouls

Balvin, 0 points, 5 fouls

Most of their fouls were made on Nurkic, who was also fouled out before the end of the game, but with 19 points, 15 rebounds, 3 blocks.

the_black_planet
09-17-2018, 11:04 AM
What happened in group K? What a stupid decisions, both Israel and Georgia. Israeli coach is joke, israeli players are joke, eight year old kids could win their game if they only had 2 free throws with 0,4 seconds left.

Now they both lost their chances to qualify to world cup. Congratulations to Serbia, Greece and Germany, they should play in WC no matter what, but this FIBA windows gave oportunity even to teams like Israel and Georgia.

Decent lost in France for Finland. On 54-24 I thought that is gonna be a disaster, but than 16 point difference in away game, in France wasn't that bad.

You are wrong about Israeli players mate, like Terroriser told you there are some very young players in leading roles like Blatt and Zoosman and they obviously paid their inexperience but they are great talents and in the long run this will pay off!

Terroriser I have to remind you that you were successful in the last Euro thanks to this selfish bastard Shved ;) Russia has an obvious lack of talent lately, you have also Karasev in these games who I haven't seen him playing for years and I guess he is probably a choker too but he was a hell of a talent as a youngster... At least Russian basketball started to produce talents again so the future will probably be brighter for you :)

the_black_planet
09-17-2018, 11:09 AM
Czech centers:

Vesely, 4 points, 5 fouls

Balvin, 0 points, 5 fouls

Most of their fouls were made on Nurkic, who was also fouled out before the end of the game, but with 19 points, 15 rebounds, 3 blocks.

Brother how was Musa in these 2 games? Terroriser said that he showed very bad decision making against Czechs. On the other hand against Finland he had 9 assists, how do you judge his overall performance?

BiHBasket
09-17-2018, 11:16 AM
Brother how was Musa in these 2 games? Terroriser said that he showed very bad decision making against Czechs. On the other hand against Finland he had 9 assists, how do you judge his overall performance?

He had to play full time point guard in those two games. For a guy who is 206 cm tall and isn't a point guard, he was decent.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/9/14/17862042/moment-dzanan-musa-shows-off-point-guard-skills


Anyway, too much talk about a losing team:)

Dtown
09-17-2018, 07:39 PM
Lithuania qualifies for the WC after a double overtime thriller.

madmax
09-17-2018, 09:46 PM
holy hell, croats with all their NBAers are comfortably sitting at the bottom of their group lmao:eek: I guess FIBA is still staying true to their roots and favoring team game more than individual prowess, which is always a refreshing thing to see

Straight forward
09-17-2018, 09:55 PM
Just as I said. Bogdanovic is a semi - chucker, Simon getting old, Croatia's team ball is rather primitive, the bench is thin and the only true stud they have is Saric.

Saric is true stud, Bender will be a heck of a player I believe, as well as Hezonja one day might grow up and to play all around BB (or stay unpredictable chucker) and I like Zubac. So Croatia should build around these, but only Bog and Saric are not enough to become a powerhouse.

Italian Pride
09-17-2018, 10:40 PM
Just as I said. Bogdanovic is a semi - chucker, Simon getting old, Croatia's team ball is rather primitive, the bench is thin and the only true stud they have is Saric.

Saric is true stud, Bender will be a heck of a player I believe, as well as Hezonja one day might grow up and to play all around BB (or stay unpredictable chucker) and I like Zubac. So Croatia should build around these, but only Bog and Saric are not enough to become a powerhouse.
their biggest weaknes is the lacknes of a true Pg

Rok Stipcevic is a medium playereven in our mediocre league

I think they still have a bit chance but they must win all remaining games

Dreamcatcher
09-18-2018, 12:44 AM
Just as I said. Bogdanovic is a semi - chucker, Simon getting old, Croatia's team ball is rather primitive, the bench is thin and the only true stud they have is Saric.

Saric is true stud, Bender will be a heck of a player I believe, as well as Hezonja one day might grow up and to play all around BB (or stay unpredictable chucker) and I like Zubac. So Croatia should build around these, but only Bog and Saric are not enough to become a powerhouse.

I don't like such talks that Bogdanovic is a chucker. He's individually a great player. It's not his fault that Chroatian NT doesn't play a good team basketball and lacks more good players.

Erkan12
09-18-2018, 05:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ51vKAHVt0

Efesdxb
09-18-2018, 07:14 AM
Turkey had 2 wins against Montenegro at home and Slovenia away. Noting that Slovenia has only 4 players (Randolph, Rebec, Muric, Cancar) from their Eurobasket 2017 Champion team.
On the other side we were almost with our full team.
Wilbekin, Furkan Korkmaz, Cedi Osman trio is great. They almost do everything. Then on front court we have Ersan Ilyasova then nothing. If we can get Omer Yurtseven (Georgetown) on our roster, we can have solid line up.
We have some young talents (Berkan Durmaz, Muhsin Yasar, Muhaymin Mustafa, Yigit Arslan (Tofas), Omercan Ilyasoglu (Efes), Ridvan Oncel, Berke Atar, Tolga Gecim, Sehmuz Hazer, Eray Akyuz (Banvit)) and we hope they improve this year.

Erkan12
09-18-2018, 08:01 AM
Turkey had 2 wins against Montenegro at home and Slovenia away. Noting that Slovenia has only 4 players (Randolph, Rebec, Muric, Cancar) from their Eurobasket 2017 Champion team.


You forget Vidmar and Zagorac.

Mindozas
09-18-2018, 09:42 AM
their biggest weaknes is the lacknes of a true Pg

Rok Stipcevic is a medium playereven in our mediocre league

I think they still have a bit chance but they must win all remaining games

Exactly, let alone decent, missing atleast good PG is huge deal for Croatians. There's good enough individual quality to beat teams like Poland, but no one to organize the game, to put it all in right places. With this I mean poor coaching either. With no proper PG and coach you are in huge trouble