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serbianhoops
09-04-2016, 07:07 PM
official website (http://www.fiba.com/europe/u16/2017)
11-19 August 2017
Podgorica, Montenegro


Let's see if the Basketball Federation of Serbia will find a way to bring together Mario Nakic (Real Madrid, Spain), Lazar Zivanovic (Real Madrid, Spain) Aleksej Pokusevski (Olympiacos Piraeus, Greece), Deny Avdija (Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Israel), Luka Sakota (Kings Christian Collegiate, Canada) and David Petrusev (Prolific Prep North, Canada), Nemanja Misljenovic (Mens Sana Siena, Italy), Marko Dosen (Mens Sana Siena, Italy), Djordje Pazin (Stella Azzurra Roma) and the best prospects playing for local teams such as Dusan Tanaskovic (Partizan Belgrade), Luka Novakovic (Partizan Belgrade), Lazar Vasic (Crvena Zvezda Belgrade) and Aleksandar Langovic (Banjica Mega).

vaslover
12-06-2016, 08:55 AM
Great performance by 15yrs old Djordje Pazin from Stella Azzura Roma in Serie B. This kid scored 24 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists! I.m already in foretaste to see him in U 16 Serbian NT in 2017.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbjI0Er8-Bw&feature=youtu.be

carlo
04-17-2017, 05:50 AM
Turkey won the Bellegarde tournament beating host France in the final game 76-63.
Final standing: Turkey 3-0, France 2-1, Spain 1-2, Montenegro 0-3.
All-Five: Timothé Crusol (FRA), Arda Cete (TUR), Ekrem Sancakli (TUR), Canberk Kavsuk (TUR), Golden Dike, MVP, (ESP).

http://www.tournoi-bellegarde-basket.fr/program-results-stats/results-stats.html

serbianhoops
06-08-2017, 07:06 PM
2 kids with serbian roots has been named to Canada’s roster for next week’s FIBA U16 Americas, 6'4" PG Luka Sakota & 6'7" F Victor Radocaj.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Luka-Sakota-97872/

BiHBasket
07-18-2017, 03:06 PM
BiH will play U16 EC division B. Team will miss best Bosnian 01' player Tarik Biberović(recovering from injury).

roloj
07-19-2017, 07:09 PM
http://www.musukrepsinis.lt/lkf/specialus-projektai/u16-baltic-cup-2017/

Dreamcatcher
07-20-2017, 12:05 AM
Final Baltic cup game - Lithuania-Turkey: 73-67

Blaževič 15, Kancleris 14, Tubelis 12
Kavsuk 20, Kucuk 15, Karabilen 9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi1hOuowcsE

BiHBasket
07-26-2017, 08:20 AM
EYOF

Bosnia Erzegovina – Italia 103-97

BOSNIA ERZEGOVINA: Dedajic 5, Markovic, Kusturica 13, Kondic 15, Huseinspahic 15, Neskovic 7, Zelenika, Radak 11, Micic 2, Krupalija 15, Islamovic, Manojlovic 20

ITALIA: Drocker 17, Parravicini 35, Ziviani, Boniciolli, Rupil 9, Reggiani, Guglielmi, Farina 10, Doneda 3, Guastamacchia 2, Borra, Guerrieri 21

roloj
08-05-2017, 08:39 AM
Turkey and Serbia played two games in two days. Serbia won both games: 77-76 and 84-79

BiHBasket
08-07-2017, 05:26 PM
BiH and Slovenia played two preparation games, what's only worth mentioning is that Slovenia had in their roster Luka Smodiš, son of Matjaž.

pohani komarac
08-09-2017, 10:12 AM
To bad Roko Prkačin won't be here do to injury, he is already 2nd best player despite being younger. Rudana, Gizdavčić, Matković and 2002 born Perasović and Tišma should be key players

Dreamcatcher
08-09-2017, 12:50 PM
To bad Roko Prkačin won't be here do to injury, he is already 2nd best player despite being younger. Rudana, Gizdavčić, Matković and 2002 born Perasović and Tišma should be key players

I don't know about Israel, but looks like a group A is tough.

Perasovic has nothing to do with Efes's coach?

roloj
08-09-2017, 01:12 PM
I don't know about Israel, but looks like a group A is tough.

Perasovic has nothing to do with Efes's coach?

His son

Dreamcatcher
08-10-2017, 03:52 PM
Is Miskovic from Serbia a brother of a guy who was named EC U18 MVP a weak ago?

BiHBasket
08-10-2017, 06:17 PM
Some scouts were impressed by Belgium PF/C Haris Bratanović in today game vs Romania in division B. Personally I would not care about him but while he is born in Belgium his parents are from Bosna and Herzegovina.

serbianhoops
08-10-2017, 07:35 PM
Is Miskovic from Serbia a brother of a guy who was named EC U18 MVP a weak ago?

Yep, not the same level of talent though. And Dusan Tanaskovic is the younger brother of Nikola (Partizan & Serbia U20).

tallwestman
08-10-2017, 07:39 PM
It seems like BIH didn't put tall center " Amar Mehic( 210 cm) in the team. He is one of top prospects in class of 2001.

serbianhoops
08-10-2017, 07:53 PM
Mehic is a late-bloomer, as far as I know he was called but he decided to focus on his individual development this summer. 6'10" Eddie Maslic from Melbourne is also missing, but it's not a big deal given that he's weaker than Islamovic who made the team.

Srle
08-10-2017, 11:07 PM
Haris Jusovic , the kid from Switzerland have a great physical tools for big guy, one year younger than the competition.

BiHBasket
08-11-2017, 09:26 AM
Haris Jusovic , the kid from Switzerland have a great physical tools for big guy, one year younger than the competition.

Haris's everywhere;)

Dreamcatcher
08-11-2017, 09:50 AM
http://www.fiba.com/europe/u16/2017/Germany#tab=roster

I almost laughed when i saw picture in German roster. I hope that African fellow in the middle is 16 y.o. at least.

miloje
08-11-2017, 10:07 AM
tarik biberović will play for turkey? :confused:

BiHBasket
08-11-2017, 10:32 AM
tarik biberović will play for turkey? :confused:

He isn't playing in this year EC, neither in division A neither in division B, neither for BiH, neither for Turkey, we should talk about players who are actually participating.

serbianhoops
08-11-2017, 11:18 AM
Haris's everywhere;)

In Serbia also, Haris Sahic ('01). He is playing for BC Tutin.
Interesting fact, he was born in Wiltz (Luxembourg).

serbianhoops
08-11-2017, 11:44 AM
http://www.fiba.com/europe/u16/2017/Germany#tab=roster

I almost laughed when i saw picture in German roster. I hope that African fellow in the middle is 16 y.o. at least.

Nope, Hukporti is 15-year old (born in 2002) :rolleyes:
He was listed as Togolese at this year's ANGT tournanment.
http://www.adidasngt.com/u18/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=007690&seasoncode=JTB16#!highs

By the way, 6'9" skinny stretch F Daniel Zdravevski ('01) has Serbian roots through his mother Ljiljana (her maiden name is Panic). She was born in Prilep (FYROM) to parents from Pirot (southeastern Serbia). Daniel was recently recruited by Bayern Munich which was not a surprise given that Svetislav Pesic knows him for years. They met in 2015, when Daniel spent summer vacation at his maternal grandparents' house in Pirot (Pesic's birthplace). His sister Laura Zdravevska ('97) played for Germany U20 NT at this year's European Championship.

Zdravevski with Pesic in Pirot back in July 2015.
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Levenspiel
08-11-2017, 12:10 PM
http://www.fiba.com/europe/u16/2017/Germany#tab=roster

I almost laughed when i saw picture in German roster. I hope that African fellow in the middle is 16 y.o. at least.
Why were you laughing? Have you been to Germany?

Dreamcatcher
08-11-2017, 12:32 PM
Why were you laughing? Have you been to Germany?

No, i weren't. You want to say it's typical for Germany? But still it was a little bit funny for me.

Srle
08-11-2017, 04:51 PM
http://www.fiba.com/europe/u16/2017/Germany#tab=roster

I almost laughed when i saw picture in German roster. I hope that African fellow in the middle is 16 y.o. at least.

Have you seen Spanish and Israeli one, its sad what some federations are doing for the short term goals:( All of them are probably 2,3 years older than the competition, all those players from the Africa.

Srle
08-11-2017, 04:54 PM
Nope, Hukporti is 15-year old (born in 2002) :rolleyes:
He was listed as Togolese at this year's ANGT tournanment.
http://www.adidasngt.com/u18/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=007690&seasoncode=JTB16#!highs

By the way, 6'9" skinny stretch F Daniel Zdravevski ('01) has Serbian roots through his mother Ljiljana (her maiden name is Panic). She was born in Prilep (FYROM) to parents from Pirot (southeastern Serbia). Daniel was recently recruited by Bayern Munich which was not a surprise given that Svetislav Pesic knows him for years. They met in 2015, when Daniel spent summer vacation at his maternal grandparents' house in Pirot (Pesic's birthplace). His sister Laura Zdravevska ('97) played for Germany U20 NT at this year's European Championship.

Zdravevski with Pesic in Pirot back in July 2015.
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So did he chose our NT:D

serbianhoops
08-11-2017, 05:12 PM
Nope, Zdravevski is on German roster.

Several players (Croatian Tisma, Israeli Avdija, Slovenians Radovic & Gavric) have particularly interesting background stories. As well as few others that didn't make the cut for the championship due to injuries such as Croatian Lazic.

roloj
08-11-2017, 06:10 PM
Too much hype in this Turkish generation... tough loss versus a very good German team today. Great skills of Van Slooten, dominating the game. Turkis missing incredible number of shots (we made 73 to score 65 points). May be we are on time to call that Bosnian guy :D :D. We have talent so I hope we can change this situation, but you need to play defense.

And you must fight for average just in case is important...

P.s-->I do know nothing about that German big guy, but Golden Dike of Spain was born and raise in Malaga. They will miss Garuba, who is most talented

slice me nice
08-11-2017, 06:19 PM
We are ruined on court, especially got smashed physically. German team is also individually better off, however 20 points difference can not be accepted easily when one thinks our team was giving some good signals before the tournament.

Kurtuldum is a quite overrated prospect. His improvement is stall and I don't see anything new on his skill-set comparing to last year. Not a bad player, but no way can be considered as a elite prospect. My personal favorite from this generation, İlyasoğlu, had a very bad game. I am expecting more from Erdek and Çete as they have been reliable scorers in preparation period. Actually, I am not impressed by any players in this first game, let's see what they are going to offer upcoming games to make more accurate comments.

Srle
08-11-2017, 06:33 PM
Too much hype in this Turkish generation... tough loss versus a very good German team today. Great skills of Van Slooten, dominating the game. Turkis missing incredible number of shots (we made 73 to score 65 points). May be we are on time to call that Bosnian guy :D :D. We have talent so I hope we can change this situation, but you need to play defense.

And you must fight for average just in case is important...

P.s-->I do know nothing about that German big guy, but Golden Dike of Spain was born and raise in Malaga. They will miss Garuba, who is most talented
Even his name is fake, taken from some porn flick:) Finland have two suspicious players as well, their center look beyond his age physically.

roloj
08-11-2017, 06:46 PM
We are ruined on court, especially got smashed physically. German team is also individually better off, however 20 points difference can not be accepted easily when one thinks our team was giving some good signals before the tournament.

Kurtuldum is a quite overrated prospect. His improvement is stall and I don't see anything new on his skill-set comparing to last year. Not a bad player, but no way can be considered as a elite prospect. My personal favorite from this generation, İlyasoğlu, had a very bad game. I am expecting more from Erdek and Çete as they have been reliable scorers in preparation period. Actually, I am not impressed by any players in this first game, let's see what they are going to offer upcoming games to make more accurate comments.

We are playing "alaturca". When this press defense is not working and you are a second later to every ball yo allow lots of easy baskets. As I said we have some talent so I sope know kids can probe they have character and IQ enough to learn from this and play better tomorrow. I do not know if coach is going to keep this way of shorts periods of time in court, long rotations, high pace, run, etc..

I do not agree in your impressions about Çete, he is not a reliable scorer in my opnion, he takes shots he have not to take (little bit selfish), if he misses he continue shooting without any success, etc... In the other hand, he usuallu (no today) is a good defender, have good legs potential, can make steals, and it´s good in open court,..

roloj
08-11-2017, 06:47 PM
Even his name is fake, taken from some porn flick:) Finland have two suspicious players as well, their center look beyond his age physically.

GOLDEN NMAEMEKA DIKE EGUN :p

slice me nice
08-11-2017, 07:07 PM
We are playing "alaturca". When this press defense is not working and you are a second later to every ball yo allow lots of easy baskets. As I said we have some talent so I sope know kids can probe they have character and IQ enough to learn from this and play better tomorrow. I do not know if coach is going to keep this way of shorts periods of time in court, long rotations, high pace, run, etc..

I do not agree in your impressions about Çete, he is not a reliable scorer in my opnion, he takes shots he have not to take (little bit selfish), if he misses he continue shooting without any success, etc... In the other hand, he usuallu (no today) is a good defender, have good legs potential, can make steals, and it´s good in open court,..

Lacking a true center to assist the defensive settling is the biggest problem related with this team. Rim protection is non-existed. Kavşuk is kinda good defensively though he didn't see enough playing time today. I have watched some games from preparation period, we change the defensive schemes so frequently that sometimes players feel lost. I am sick to see all these combination defenses.

Çete is good, believe me. He was the leading scorer of the team in previous preparation tournament. It was a bad display for him today also just like the others. I also expect more from Erdek. The coach should take a look at the roles again. Kurtuldum leading the team is not a good idea. +25 minutes to Küçük is essential.

roloj
08-11-2017, 07:29 PM
Lacking a true center to assist the defensive settling is the biggest problem related with this team. Rim protection is non-existed. Kavşuk is kinda good defensively though he didn't see enough playing time today. I have watched some games from preparation period, we change the defensive schemes so frequently that sometimes players feel lost. I am sick to see all these combination defenses.

Çete is good, believe me. He was the leading scorer of the team in previous preparation tournament. It was a bad display for him today also just like the others. I also expect more from Erdek. The coach should take a look at the roles again. Kurtuldum leading the team is not a good idea. +25 minutes to Küçük is essential.

Lack of athleticism of our C (if you consider Karabilen as C) is a big truoble for defense we did today, no matter if we make full court press (if they pass first line then they have a highway to basket) and also in that 2-3 defense (in wich we miss 3-4 rebounds whe we were close).

I know Çete is good, I told some of his good things (and he has character too, important in basketball) i´m just saying he is not a reliable scorer. Yes he can score, specially in lay-ups, open court, steal and score, but he is inconsistent in scoring (as some other players are, like Kurtuldum even with his hype), like he probed in Baltic Cup one month ago or in Eyof two weeks ago (here he had very good fist phase but then he struggled in shooting in semis and final, but I like the guy.

We have some talent but this way of playing sometimes make this happens, everyone can score, but whe the team has difficulties, roles are not clear so no one knows who the leaders are, etc..

P.s-->Even me, a yabanci, that i´m not turkish know your avatar ;)

slice me nice
08-11-2017, 07:46 PM
Lack of athleticism of our C (if you consider Karabilen as C) is a big truoble for defense we did today, no matter if we make full court press (if they pass first line then they have a highway to basket) and also in that 2-3 defense (in wich we miss 3-4 rebounds whe we were close).

I know Çete is good, I told some of his good things (and he has character too, important in basketball) i´m just saying he is not a reliable scorer. Yes he can score, specially in lay-ups, open court, steal and score, but he is inconsistent in scoring (as some other players are, like Kurtuldum even with his hype), like he probed in Baltic Cup one month ago or in Eyof two weeks ago (here he had very good fist phase but then he struggled in shooting in semis and final, but I like the guy.

We have some talent but this way of playing sometimes make this happens, everyone can score, but whe the team has difficulties, roles are not clear so no one knows who the leaders are, etc..

P.s-->Even me, a yabanci, that i´m not turkish know your avatar ;)

As I said, we should at least wait group phase to finish to give more accurate feedback on player. These are the kids who beat France, Spain, Lithuania in away games during preparation period. Potential is there. The real job is to make it visible.

I didn't know you are a foreigner. It is both strange and great to see someone who is very knowledgeable about Turkish youth setup that much. Yeah, my avatar :D 'The father of Beşiktaş and also the other clubs'. Two legends of Beşiktaş.

Levenspiel
08-11-2017, 10:48 PM
I can only start seeing kids on u16 tournaments and onwards, so I was very curious about our team. It did not look good :). At some point, I went and checked the sizes of both teams, because on court German kids seemed seriously bigger, but to my surprise the average heights were exactly the same; 1.96cm.

the only player I liked was Kucuk. He is nifty little guy. a type of PG we've been historically missing.

Germans on the other hand was like a steam roller; they physically beat us and seemed to have made every shot.

first impressions on these levels are usually not reliable. Hope see more games.

roloj
08-12-2017, 07:44 AM
As I said this is the way this generation of kids have been playing during preparation. This way of play makes lots of up and downs during the match, but of course it´s not the same have downs during a preparation game than during a tournament, mind plays too. This team was more than 30 points down vs Lthuani one month ago in a preparation match and then in second hlf, even with the defeat we were close to 4 point. We were up versus Croatia just two weeks ago and then recieve 35 points in a quarter, etc... all the games all like that, but yesterday was the first real match and whe you are down and you see you can not score like other times, you begin to think about not scoring and the you do not score and then you thnik again and....

i hope staff calmd down the kids (yesterday good signal from mister with Ilyasoglu last time he went to bench) and no to change way of playin even if that probe we are not a top level, cuz that will make not cheat ourselves and know how much we have to improve.



Just no to talk about Turkey, I liked some kids i watched yesterday: Pradilla (Spain), Mannion (Italy), Kriisa (Estonia), Maledon (France), Kadoshnikov (russia, this last one is not as mature right now as the other but i liked him)

gockun
08-12-2017, 10:05 AM
I can only start seeing kids on u16 tournaments and onwards, so I was very curious about our team. It did not look good :). At some point, I went and checked the sizes of both teams, because on court German kids seemed seriously bigger, but to my surprise the average heights were exactly the same; 1.96cm.

the only player I liked was Kucuk. He is nifty little guy. a type of PG we've been historically missing.

Germans on the other hand was like a steam roller; they physically beat us and seemed to have made every shot.

first impressions on these levels are usually not reliable. Hope see more games.

Really talented for this level. But I am afraid his best case sceranio is probably Ender Arslan :(.

What annoys me most about our youth level teams, we can't f..king shoot the ball. All U-20,18,16,14 teams included. There are really good talents out there but as long as they can't hit the ball from outside, they won't make any impact.

Levenspiel
08-12-2017, 02:17 PM
Really talented for this level. But I am afraid his best case sceranio is probably Ender Arslan :(.

Ender Arslan at 20yo? I'd take it. :) Arslan later became a joke of a player, he was great in the beginning both for NT and for Efes.

Dreamcatcher
08-12-2017, 06:12 PM
Streaming is drunk in this tournament. Maybe not in all the games, because i've watched only Lithuanian games so far. By the way, Chroatian team got stucked in Lithuanian defence - non of them could score 10 pts in the game.

roloj
08-12-2017, 06:29 PM
Streaming is drunk in this tournament. Maybe not in all the games, because i've watched only Lithuanian games so far. By the way, Chroatian team got stucked in Lithuanian defence - non of them could score 10 pts in the game.

Today I had no problem, but yesterday´s match of Lithuania was crazy to see with that streaming, but in today´s Lithuanian game I had no problem (only watched first half)

Dreamcatcher
08-12-2017, 07:40 PM
Today I had no problem, but yesterday´s match of Lithuania was crazy to see with that streaming, but in today´s Lithuanian game I had no problem (only watched first half)

It's strange. I didn't even watch live after yesterday's one - downloaded the game after, but it still wasn't good and some other people mentioned it too.

gockun
08-13-2017, 08:09 AM
Ender Arslan at 20yo? I'd take it. :) Arslan later became a joke of a player, he was great in the beginning both for NT and for Efes.


So, I heard that he will go to NCAA after one more year in TED (in summer of 2018). I don't know if it is good thing or not. Kid seems to know what he want, money is not a priority (for now) obviously which is the good thing for him, but NCAA didn't do good for Turkish prospects until now.

roloj
08-13-2017, 12:45 PM
So, I heard that he will go to NCAA after one more year in TED (in summer of 2018). I don't know if it is good thing or not. Kid seems to know what he want, money is not a priority (for now) obviously which is the good thing for him, but NCAA didn't do good for Turkish prospects until now.

NCAA in 2018? He still needs to finish 2 more years of high school before go to University, no?

slice me nice
08-13-2017, 01:41 PM
NCAA in 2018? He still needs to finish 2 more years of high school before go to University, no?

He can't go to university till 2019. Probably, he meant high school in USA which would be a very risky choice for his career as well.

Lithuania beat Israel by 8 and Israel stood back to 2nd place in group which means Turkey - Israel match-up at the next round since winning against Slovenia won't change our position, due to the heavy loss against Germans, unless we make a wonder by winning over them at least +30 points which doesn't sound realistic. Israel has a very good team here, but for our team getting Israelis from the 2nd spot is more than good. Today's Slovenia game is important to see whether we are going to gradually improve our performance.

Dreamcatcher
08-13-2017, 07:40 PM
WOW what is happening, Mannion from Italy knailed 42 pts in Russian basket and Chroatia lost 50 pts to Serbia - do these kids have passion for the game?

Srle
08-13-2017, 09:43 PM
Pazin could have scored 50 today if he played whole game;) Passion had to do nothing , some teams are just very bad or too young. The clearer picture will be at u18 tournament in two years for this European generation of players.

Hepcat
08-15-2017, 03:01 PM
Wow!

Latvia 83 Russia 81 (OT)

What a comeback by Latvia! Down by 11 midway through the 4th quarter the Latvians force OT with seconds to play and hold the Russians off in the final seconds of OT!

:cool:

BiHBasket
08-15-2017, 04:59 PM
So Slovenia was 3 - 0 in their group and Croatia 0 - 3 in their, and guess what, in the round of 16 Croatia eliminated Slovenia.

I can't stand this system where every teams moves to the round of 16.

roloj
08-15-2017, 05:11 PM
So Slovenia was 3 - 0 in their group and Croatia 0 - 3 in their, and guess what, in the round of 16 Croatia eliminated Slovenia.

I can't stand this system where every teams moves to the round of 16.

Croatia playing with 6 players today...

p.s-->System was copied from youth world champìonships but i also thinks Euopean championship could be played with other system, like always did until last summer

Hepcat
08-15-2017, 05:13 PM
So Slovenia was 3 - 0 in their group and Croatia 0 - 3 in their, and guess what, in the round of 16 Croatia eliminated Slovenia.

I can't stand this system where every teams moves to the round of 16.

Yeah, it doesn't seem right when a 0-3 team knocks off a 3-0 team.

:(

The Croatian team's Jekyll-and-Hyde play also bewilders me. Here on Sunday Croatia lost to Serbia 102-52 and then today Croatia beats previously unbeaten Slovenia 76-65.

:eek:

pohani komarac
08-15-2017, 05:17 PM
Definitely it's terrible system. Luckily worked for us. Positive is that our very talented 2002. will play A division. I don't have high hopes for this kids. Rudan is nice and athletic Matković (still didn't get clearance to play from FIBA ) have some chances at pro level

pohani komarac
08-15-2017, 05:22 PM
Yeah, it doesn't seem right when a 0-3 team knocks off a 3-0 team.

:(

The Croatian team's Jekyll-and-Hyde play also bewilders me. Here on Sunday Croatia lost to Serbia 102-52 and then today Croatia beats previously unbeaten Slovenia 76-65.

:eek:

I think there was planning because we played many times with Slovenia and usually toped them with this generation

slice me nice
08-15-2017, 06:16 PM
Almost a triple-double performance from Küçük and easy win for Turkey against Israel. 19 points, 9 rebounds, 10 assists in 25 minutes. Great full-court passes and amazing court vision. He played like a real leader. We shortened the rotation in this game what it is cracked up to be and it worked very well. As I said, Küçük should take the helms in this team no other way around. He had enough freedom on offense today, maybe the first time in this tournament. It is good that the coach has corrected his mistake finally.

Kurtuldum was amazing as well, great offensive and defensive display. Kurtuldum is showing his skills much better when Küçük is also on the court, I compare him to Cedi Osman at that age. They have a lot of common basketball sense. Kurtuldum likes to run, great slasher and average shooter. Not an elite prospect is Kurtuldum, however can be a very useful player in the future. I also liked his off the ball movements in this game.

Another great performance was from Karabilen. He did amazing things on offense, but his defensive contribution was the key and he ended the game on a high note defensively as well. His position is still not clear, but he is a more C than PF for my taste. It is a great plus he has a shooting touch from perimeter. I am really satisfied with the effort of team. France game is gonna be difficult for sure, but after watching today's game, I am quite hopeful for tomorrow's game.

roloj
08-15-2017, 06:34 PM
I have to agree on Kurtultum´s off ball play, I think is one of his best skills.

If France is rival tomorrow is gonna be tough, cuz is not a good fit for us. hay can run (like us, but we are better in that) but, contrary to Finland, thay can get physichal and play basket with more contact or press (like Germany did). I´m still confident we can get a spot in top5..

p.s-->i can not understad why coach is not careful woth foul troubles. Today is the second game (of 4) where a player makes 3 fouls in first quarter (Erdek in 5 minutes), and the just in first play of second quarter Çete makes his second foul, He was neither put on the bench so he did his third foul in the next minute with 8 minutes left in second quarte. If you later in the game need to use those players they can get extremely cold...

slice me nice
08-15-2017, 06:51 PM
p.s-->i can not understad why coach is not careful woth foul troubles. Today is the second game (of 4) where a player makes 3 fouls in first quarter (Erdek in 5 minutes), and the just in first play of second quarter Çete makes his second foul, He was neither put on the bench so he did his third foul in the next minute with 8 minutes left in second quarte. If you later in the game need to use those players they can get extremely cold...

Yeah, the coach sides with keeping the player on court who is on foul trouble. It is indeed hard to understand. But we are talking about a guy who made his best player averaged only 15 minutes per game in first three games. So it is not my main concern. Turkish coaches have been making a new breakthrough in basketball.

Srle
08-15-2017, 10:02 PM
So Slovenia was 3 - 0 in their group and Croatia 0 - 3 in their, and guess what, in the round of 16 Croatia eliminated Slovenia.

I can't stand this system where every teams moves to the round of 16.

That horrible Croatian team now have a chance to go to semi finals, hopefully Latvia will stop them.

roloj
08-16-2017, 12:30 PM
Croatia is playing again with just 6 players today...

JABroy
08-16-2017, 02:56 PM
official website (http://www.fiba.com/europe/u16/2017)
11-19 August 2017
Podgorica, Montenegro


Let's see if the Basketball Federation of Serbia will find a way to bring together Mario Nakic (Real Madrid, Spain), Lazar Zivanovic (Real Madrid, Spain) Aleksej Pokusevski (Olympiacos Piraeus, Greece), Deny Avdija (Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Israel), Luka Sakota (Kings Christian Collegiate, Canada) and David Petrusev (Prolific Prep North, Canada), Nemanja Misljenovic (Mens Sana Siena, Italy), Marko Dosen (Mens Sana Siena, Italy), Djordje Pazin (Stella Azzurra Roma) and the best prospects playing for local teams such as Dusan Tanaskovic (Partizan Belgrade), Luka Novakovic (Partizan Belgrade), Lazar Vasic (Crvena Zvezda Belgrade) and Aleksandar Langovic (Banjica Mega).

Why MARIO NAKIC did not participate at this European Under 16 Championship?
Is he sure of Serbian citizenship or could he play for croatia (I read that he has dual citizenship)?
I hope that HE will attend at the 2018 Under 17 World Cup if Serbia were to qualify ...

Among other names mentioned above, I believe:
- Deny Avdija is playing for ISRAEL;
- Luka Sakota will play for CANADA;

Considering that even the 2002 class in serbia is not bad, do you know some other player 2001 that could possibly play for the next Under 17 World Championship?

roloj
08-16-2017, 03:00 PM
So Croatia, depsite his 0-3 in group phase is fihgitng for medals and with a guranteed spot in World Championship

Srle
08-16-2017, 05:05 PM
Why MARIO NAKIC did not participate at this European Under 16 Championship?
Is he sure of Serbian citizenship or could he play for croatia (I read that he has dual citizenship)?
I hope that HE will attend at the 2018 Under 17 World Cup if Serbia were to qualify ...

Among other names mentioned above, I believe:
- Deny Avdija is playing for ISRAEL;
- Luka Sakota will play for CANADA;

Considering that even the 2002 class in serbia is not bad, do you know some other player 2001 that could possibly play for the next Under 17 World Championship?

I think he will play next year for Serbia, Balsa Koprivica also didn't play twice, he was invited to NT camp, the first time two years ago . Mario was present in the Arena when our senior NT played Montenegro last Sunday, he was born in Belgrade , he played basketball there until he was 13, there is no reason for him to not participate next year , with him Pokusevski, Misljenovic and some other missing players, this team could be even better next year. In general generation 2000/2001 is very deep for Serbia, we should be one of the main contenders at U18 tournament next year, which is also qualifying for the U19 World Championship.

pohani komarac
08-16-2017, 05:25 PM
Why MARIO NAKIC did not participate at this European Under 16 Championship?
Is he sure of Serbian citizenship or could he play for croatia (I read that he has dual citizenship)?
I hope that HE will attend at the 2018 Under 17 World Cup if Serbia were to qualify ...

Among other names mentioned above, I believe:
- Deny Avdija is playing for ISRAEL;
- Luka Sakota will play for CANADA;

Considering that even the 2002 class in serbia is not bad, do you know some other player 2001 that could possibly play for the next Under 17 World Championship?

He is son of Ivan Nakić former Croatian basketball. His mother is Serbian. As far as I know he feels Serbian more than Croatian and will play for them. He probably uses Croatian passport as Croatia is member of EU.

Hepcat
08-16-2017, 05:59 PM
So Croatia, depsite his 0-3 in group phase is fihgitng for medals and with a guranteed spot in World Championship

:eek:

And after losing its three group games by a combined total of 74 points!

:confused:

Srle
08-16-2017, 06:38 PM
While Slovenia won their group, they are not impressive team and Latvia blown a big lead, they are average team as well, so Croats were very lucky.

slice me nice
08-16-2017, 06:52 PM
Playing against French U-16 teams are always extra hard. Their physical advantages are making a world of difference at this level. They nicely shut down our passing channels and put our offensive schemes out of action. We still had a chance to tie the game at the end, but very lame shot selection from Küçük and France got the game. You either just have to push the tempo or slow down the tempo against them. When you play something a blend of these two, they throw you out of the game. Anyway, hopefully we will get the 5th spot to get WC ticket. Kinda quiet summer for Turkish youth basketball. We remain medal-less.

roloj
08-16-2017, 07:32 PM
Coach was our biggest enemy today. Our best players outise Kuçuk (even he was not super today) and Çete, and they play together few minutes, not changing defense in end of 1st quarter and 2nd quarter when France was outpassing us, he recieved a technical foul, he did not call a time out when France was gettin huge difference in second quarter,... Come on man! are you with or against us??

Anyway, as is assumed we played high tempo as we always did so I have no regret on that. Unfortunately, 3 point is still a mistery for all Turkisn NTs, and is very difficult to win a physychal team like france who collapse zone to pivots if you can not open the court with 3s...

i hope we can get 5 place but it´s going to be really hard...

Srle
08-16-2017, 09:08 PM
Its going to be very competitive fight for that fifth place, Spain, Lithuania and Turkey , one of those team are going to make it to Argentina.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-16-2017, 10:10 PM
While Slovenia won their group, they are not impressive team and Latvia blown a big lead, they are average team as well, so Croats were very lucky.
Radovič, Duščak, Samar, Glas... majority of NT's might even be envious about such backcourt potential as those 4 present. But as ussual, without any notable inside presence you can't expect much at this level.

roloj
08-18-2017, 02:54 PM
Coach was our biggest enemy today

Nothing more to say about Turkey..

Srle
08-18-2017, 03:35 PM
Latvia blown big lead again, same like in quarterfinal game.

roloj
08-18-2017, 03:53 PM
Turkey and Lithuania to play for the spot in World Chapionship tomorrow.

Now time to semifinals!!

slice me nice
08-18-2017, 04:00 PM
Just rip up the coaching licence of this so-called coach. He is 100% malevolent towards some players. It is inexplicable why Küçük played only 12 minutes in this game. Moreover, Küçük was the main actor of comeback and made 13 points, 3 assists and 4 rebounds in limited playing time. I really can't understand this kind of douchiness. We won despite our own coach. If he uses this retarded rotation tomorrow against Lithuania, we are going to present last WC ticket to Liths. I even don't mention his irritating attitudes on bench. You are almost 40 years old dude, watch your acts a little bit.

roloj
08-19-2017, 03:57 PM
We finally get a place in World Cahmpionship. I still think bad decissions in key moments let us without a medal. Happy cuz we have some talented guys, even we still are not aware the need we have to improve individual basic skills in young players..

gockun
08-19-2017, 05:13 PM
So, it is over... There is no "real deal" talent for Turkey, actually there is also no eurolegue level talent there too. Erdek, Çete, Kurtuldum has no basketball IQ, tunnel visions and very bad shot selections out there. They only play with high motor, agressive which are enough for this age to be successfull but in senior age. Karabilen has some IQ, good vision, very mobile but not consistent, lacks agressivity, motor and somewhat unsupporting. Kucuk as I said before reminds me of Ender Arslan, really talented but really low basketball IQ and does not have good frame for senior level. As years go by this team will downgrade I think, though I would love to be mistaken...

Terrorizer
08-19-2017, 06:27 PM
Wow!

Latvia 83 Russia 81 (OT)

What a comeback by Latvia! Down by 11 midway through the 4th quarter the Latvians force OT with seconds to play and hold the Russians off in the final seconds of OT!

:cool:
I guess, I shall have my own catchphrase on these boards. Maccabeo has "shooot", I'll go with "Russian choking". I haven't watched this championship except for some glimpses of the first gameday's scrimmages because I was really busy with my scientific work obligations but either way this Russian team achieved a new all-time low. This is the first European youth basketball tournament where we finished last. And initially I had some hopes for this team, God, what was I thinking.

Russian basketball is doomed. It gets worse and worse. There are ebbs and flows as it is always the case in youth categories but, generally speaking, ten years ago we were elite (well, worse than Spain or Serbia but at least rarely missing qfs), five years ago we were decent, now we are atrocious. I am not a stranger to the Russian basketball but the speed with which we are deteriorating puzzles even me. Next year only U-18 Russian team will play at a Division A of these European junior NT competitions. Shit, future is bleak for basketball here. Well, that won't stop CSKA crooks from tunnelling budget money into their laughing stock of a team. Maybe, it's better to go the Norway way and dissolve all the national teams on all levels for good (or maybe they still have U-16, dunno)? I think it's a better option than fighting with Malta and Armenia for the 13-16th places in Division B. And, given the dynamics we currently have, such a scenario is set to become reality very soon.

Terrorizer
08-19-2017, 06:29 PM
By the way, I'm surprised to see Montenegro in the finals but I'm far from being knowledgeable about this generation of players.

roloj
08-19-2017, 06:35 PM
Could Sezgun be a late-bloomer? I like physichal skills of Kirciman

Lack of IQ is one of biggest problems in turkish basketball. Most of the teams, players play too vertical, too direct to the basket. This U16 is an exageration of that, as Gokun said, they result in agrresive with high motor players, but can not read the game whe thay can not be succesfull with thhat basketball or whe the oponent team slow us....

I like Kuçuk but he shoots like when kids change to play in real high basket, do not know how to explain his shoot in English..

slice me nice
08-19-2017, 06:50 PM
I guess, I shall have my own catchphrase on these boards. Maccabeo has "shooot", I'll go with "Russian choking". I haven't watched this championship except for some glimpses of the first gameday's scrimmages because I was really busy with my scientific work obligations but either way this Russian team achieved a new all-time low. This is the first European youth basketball tournament where we finished last. And initially I had some hopes for this team, God, what was I thinking.

Russian basketball is doomed. It gets worse and worse. There are ebbs and flows as it is always the case in youth categories but, generally speaking, ten years ago we were elite (well, worse than Spain or Serbia but at least rarely missing qfs), five years ago we were decent, now we are atrocious. I am not a stranger to the Russian basketball but the speed with which we are deteriorating puzzles even me. Next year only U-18 Russian team will play at a Division A of these European junior NT competitions. Shit, future is bleak for basketball here. Well, that won't stop CSKA crooks from tunnelling budget money into their laughing stock of a team. Maybe, it's better to go the Norway way and dissolve all the national teams on all levels for good (or maybe they still have U-16, dunno)? I think it's a better option than fighting with Malta and Armenia for the 13-16th places in Division B. And, given the dynamics we currently have, such a scenario is set to become reality very soon.

I was about to question the terrible situation in youth Russian NTs. I fully agree with you. Something must be wrong there. Even the elite basketball countries may have consecutive weak generations, that's normal. However, if a country has talent drought between '94-'01 generations, that's the good indicator of planlessness. Back on those days you mentioned, matching with Russia was a nightmare, as the Russian kids were fundamentally established and having well-built frames. Now all I see, bunch of kids who lack basic fundamental also have terrible game knowledge and not ready to cope with high level mentally as well. Playing against Russian youth NTs is a sure win for the opponents. Really a strange case. According to one of the respectable Russian youth basketball follower I keep in touch with, most of the experienced youth setup coaches are already retired and incoming ones don't have enough knowledge to manage a youth team. Again according to him, federation is not minding much the general national youth program, they even haven't organized coaching-development seminars or communes in the simplest terms. I seriously would like to talk the reason of this deterioration with an insider.

carlo
08-19-2017, 08:45 PM
France is EC edging Montenegro in the title game. Killian Hayes once again led his teammates to victory, deserving the MVP award.
Besides the winners, historic qualification of surprising Montenegro to 2018 U17 WC. Serbia, Croatia and Turkey are also qualified. Both Croatia and Turkey were late racers after a disappointing tournament start. Notables missing, Lithuania and Spain.

In Div. B another nation made history with the promotion to the upper Division of Georgia, who snatched the third place from Great Britain. Winner Greece and Netherlands were also promoted.

Srle
08-19-2017, 08:51 PM
By the way, I'm surprised to see Montenegro in the finals but I'm far from being knowledgeable about this generation of players.

Good use of home court advantage, I will be shocked if they are in the top five teams next year at the world championship.

Dreamcatcher
08-19-2017, 10:59 PM
Bad summer for Lithuania after the last one when all the champs were finished with a medal (no gold though). This summer only one bronze has been taken in a very hardly game with OT against Turkey in U18. I didn't like our U16 team, but there are some guys who can be good in the future. But they were very unstable in Podgorica and deservedly will miss a WC.

gockun
08-20-2017, 08:19 AM
Could Sezgun be a late-bloomer? I like physichal skills of Kirciman

Lack of IQ is one of biggest problems in turkish basketball. Most of the teams, players play too vertical, too direct to the basket. This U16 is an exageration of that, as Gokun said, they result in agrresive with high motor players, but can not read the game whe thay can not be succesfull with thhat basketball or whe the oponent team slow us....

I like Kuçuk but he shoots like when kids change to play in real high basket, do not know how to explain his shoot in English..

Sezgün has soft hands, some post moves, good size ,can play P&R on the other hand he is a softy, avoid contacts, really slow legs, not an intimidater, can't finish if there is any body infront of him. İf he gain some muscle he can be something.

roloj
09-22-2017, 03:58 PM
Bibeorivc is finally playing for Fener

BiHBasket
09-22-2017, 09:53 PM
Bibeorivc is finally playing for Fener

Nothing is signed.

And he can play for Fenerbahce as much as he want, but if he start playing for Turkey, once more everybody will see what I'm talking all the time: Turkey is the biggest enemy of the Bosnia and Herzegovina and our people. At least when we talk about basketball.

Levenspiel
09-22-2017, 11:21 PM
Nothing is signed.

And he can play for Fenerbahce as much as he want, but if he start playing for Turkey, once more everybody will see what I'm talking all the time: Turkey is the biggest enemy of the Bosnia and Herzegovina and our people. At least when we talk about basketball.
wow, that escalated quickly. Bball, I understand, but why otherwise?

roloj
09-23-2017, 03:07 PM
Nothing is signed.


So he Is playing these games as some kind of test or tryout or something? is he still free?

BiHBasket
09-23-2017, 10:45 PM
So he Is playing these games as some kind of test or tryout or something? is he still free?

He is under contract with the Spars Sarajevo. Why is he playing for the other team while under contract with them, I don't think they will bother to share with us.

roloj
09-24-2017, 12:45 PM
He is under contract with the Spars Sarajevo. Why is he playing for the other team while under contract with them, I don't think they will bother to share with us.

Thanks, friend. It souds weird, but as you say, they are not going to tell us why...