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ThePeraCar
06-30-2015, 03:28 PM
So in the upcoming season there will be "only" 12 teams in ABA
So guys today i see some very rich guy wanna buy Zadar,i think that would be great if they accept
he also says that he would payoff all debts and Zadar would alredy next season play Euroleague

Joško Poljak Fan
06-30-2015, 08:57 PM
If he actualy does that, Zadar would be incredibly tough to beat even with a mediocre budget, let alone a multi million one.

Olimpija is obviously out of the league so far, but Tajfun (our great Slovenian champion :D ) says they're willing to negotiate as they probably won't find enough funds to play well in ABA. Also their arena fails the 2000 capacity standard.

Roy M
06-30-2015, 09:02 PM
If he actualy does that, Zadar would be incredibly tough to beat even with a mediocre budget, let alone a multi million one.

Olimpija is obviously out of the league so far, but Tajfun (our great Slovenian champion :D ) says they're willing to negotiate as they probably won't find enough funds to play well in ABA. Also their arena fails the 2000 capacity standard.

I hope that MTA and Jerusalem will joing, but less them a slim chance

ThePeraCar
06-30-2015, 09:04 PM
I hope that MTA and Jerusalem will joing, but less them a slim chance

i dont think that will be possible in future cuz league is now 100% in hands of clubs and there is no more wild cards and those things i think?ask jpf xD

Joško Poljak Fan
07-01-2015, 08:37 AM
I have absolutely no idea where the league is supposed to get their finances from, but from the feeling I've got the federations (of various countries) will block any team not coming from ex-Yugoslavia joining the league from now on. Not to mention the league will only consist of 12 and not 14 teams. 4 Serbian, 3 Croatian, 2 Slovenian, Budućnost, Bosnian, Macedonian team and that's about it.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-16-2015, 12:25 PM
Krka signed Ivan Velić, ex-Široki coach and will base their team more towards youngsters this season. They completed their roster already.

PG: Katnić (from Igokea, 194cm, 89'), Rojc (198cm, 93'), Janc (Krka's youth team, 184cm, 96')
SG: Mulalić (195cm, 88'), Zatezič (197cm, 95')
SF: Kastrati (198cm, 94'), Lapornik (195cm, 88'), Zupan (201cm, 96')
PF: Ivanov (Zadar, 200cm, 85'), Tratnik (from Laško, 206cm, 89'), Ritlop (205cm, 95')
C: Lalić (Zielona Gora, 211cm, 86'), Dimec (Rogaška, 210cm, 93'), Polutak (209cm, 96')

Joško Poljak Fan
07-17-2015, 07:40 PM
Clubs agreed on 14 teams next season, after Slovenian federation threatened to pull out all the teams in case the league management would want to exclude the national champion Tajfun in favour of Olimpija. 14th team unknown at the moment. It'll be interesting to see the criteria based on which that team will be selected as If I understood correctly "wildcard payments" aren't supposed to be the case anymore.

ThePeraCar
07-19-2015, 02:47 PM
Clubs agreed on 14 teams next season, after Slovenian federation threatened to pull out all the teams in case the league management would want to exclude the national champion Tajfun in favour of Olimpija. 14th team unknown at the moment. It'll be interesting to see the criteria based on which that team will be selected as If I understood correctly "wildcard payments" aren't supposed to be the case anymore.

lol this is so unfair but ok,slovenia will get what they deserve in future

Joško Poljak Fan
07-19-2015, 03:02 PM
What exactly do we deserve? If it was up to Slovenian federation than Krka and Tajfun would play, others did everything they could to put Olimpija in instead of Tajfun.

ThePeraCar
07-19-2015, 03:15 PM
What exactly do we deserve? If it was up to Slovenian federation than Krka and Tajfun would play, others did everything they could to put Olimpija in instead of Tajfun.

i didnt read well,fuck it

Joško Poljak Fan
07-21-2015, 08:21 AM
Participants of the qualification tournament will be Široki (BIH), Zagreb (HRV), Sutjeska Nikšić (MNT) and Kumanovo (MAK)

Joško Poljak Fan
07-25-2015, 02:05 PM
Olimpija signed Lapornik and Zagorac from Laško and Nikolič-Smrdelj who played in Czech league last season and is expected to re-sign Rupnik.

PG: X , Rupnik (184cm, PG, 93')
SG: Lapornik (194cm, SG, 93'), Mesiček (197cm, SG, 97')
SF: Hrovat (196cm, SG/SF, 94'), Nikolič (200cm, SF, 91'), Čančar (203cm, SF, 97')
PF: Zagorac (206cm, PF, 85'), Mahkovic (201cm, SF/PF, 90')
C: X, X, Vučetić (207cm, PF/C, 96')

Quite a decent team, considering the aproximate 700k€ first team budget only with some room to bring some decent PG and C.

Marinelli is practicing with Kvarner, coach Potočnik isn't counting on him and should likely be loaned to Kvarner for his final year of the contract with Olimpija, Čančar and Vučetić will be loaned to Škofja Loka in 1st Slovenian league and occasionaly play for the first team. Alen Omić has one more year under contract but will definately leave the club against a buyout.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-28-2015, 12:03 PM
kosarka.si reports that teams participating in the qualification round will have to pay a 150.000 € guarantee before participation, teams that won't make it will get that money back, the winning team pays their participation in ABA with it.
This will inevitably cause intrigue and bad mood in some countries. 2-3 years ago Široki definately didn't have that money, not sure about the rest.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-31-2015, 10:18 AM
James White in Cedevita, after Žorić second big name for them. Tedeschi obviously decided now is the time to pour some money in.
Nikola Ivanović in Mega

Obina
07-31-2015, 10:59 AM
ABA league is an ordinary circus this season.

Because Olimpija not qualify via their domestic league, leadership expanded the league from 12 to 14 teams. This means an unnecessary additional month of playing. Also league reduce semifinals PO game from 3 to 2 wins, lol. And there is no 14th team that can pay WC to play in league.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-31-2015, 01:56 PM
I agree there shouldn't be 14 teams, however the leadership wanted to have Olimpija in no matter what as thats almost (no diss meant to Krka) the only team from Slovenia they're interested in. They even invented the rule just for Olimpija's sake that the team that qualified to one of the european competitions is automaticaly participating in ABA the next season, no matter the national championship.

The problem with ABA is that Serbs have too much talent for 4 teams only in the league and are exporting decent mid-level players to various leagues for peanuts, Croatia has too many traditional bball centers in Zagreb, Zadar, Split, Rijeka, Šibenik and 3 teams only (2 always being from Zagreb anyway) while with Slovenian federation they're realising that there are teams that would be willing to invest more, but aren't due to Slo league being completely unatractive for sponsors without Krka and Olimpija playing there for more than those 5-6 weeks. From what I've been told the federation might press on all clubs to play in Slovenian league the next season, even if that would mean 3 games per week for them, as they don't see a different way out.
And if Helios would apply to (their president is desperate not to play in Slo league without Olimpija, Krka and Tajfun) and win the ABA qualifications, I know all hell will break lose among the fans.

The league will have to consist of 12 teams and no matter how someone might feel about it and reward the most succesfull teams from the national championship only, otherwise various interests from all countries will tear it apart.

Picek
08-07-2015, 04:24 PM
after Berisha, Fisher, older Žižić we brought also young slovenian PG Žan Šišak..
http://www.balkanbasket.com/regionalna-kosarka/cibona-dovela-mladog-reprezentativca-slovenije/
I guess Skokna will then be loaned to Gorica.

some are saying we are still looking for a backup for Kuridža.
our roster currently is:
PG Fisher, Mavra, Žišak
SG Berisha, Krušlin
SF Slavica, Rozić
PF Kuridža, Gabrić, Buljević
C Ante Žižić, Zubac, Andrija Žižić

coached by Rimac and Golemac
won't be enough to win ABA already this year but looking forward on watching them play.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-07-2015, 06:08 PM
Žan Mark Šiško :) His father Lojze was an ex-Yu U16 MVP in 87 or 88 or something like that, incredibly talented, yet at some point decided to drop basketball alltogether before making an impact at senior cathegories, now working as a coach with Olimpija at U14 cathegories i believe. Žan reportedly got the same idea last year and after a, what the club says was only minor quarrel with Potočnik (now Olimpija's head coach, chief of youth last year), dropped bball for a few months as he got sick of it.
The kid has "šmek" (can't figure out a translation... kind of "mojo"), inteligent PG that makes the offense flow the way it should be and extremely popular with coaches accordingly, while it could be said he lacks in some other classical regards of the game.

CoachZ
08-23-2015, 08:28 PM
Just a comment about Stefan Nastic joining Red Star. I had followed him in NCAA quite closely and he has been a steady developer, with a terrific senior season for the Cardinals. He brings a different dimension to the Red Star center rotation since both Zirbes and Big Sofo are bangers, while he is a more of a technique post up player, with a stable mid-range jumper. He is a bit weak with his left hand and keeps favoring the right hand in his post moves, so that limits him a bit. On the other hand his right hook is a very solid weapon, along with the mid-range jumper. He is a solid rebounder, very good timing for blocking shots but lacks as a post-up defender where he is easily dispatched by stronger centers. He also has a bit trouble coming of screens and defending pick and roll, but is quite a good transition defender and defending face-up opponents.

I think he has a chance to be a very important player for Red Star next year (I don't see Big Sofo being more than one-year stop-gap solution at C), while he can be used this season more in national championship and ABA league, while he improves. We have a good track record recently working with big men, so I think we might have gotten a bargain with him.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-27-2015, 10:50 AM
Only Sutjeska and Široki remaining for that last 14th spot. Olimpija as 13th paid the wild card.

PG: US guard, Rupnik
SG: Lapornik, Hrovat, Mesiček
SF: Mahkovic, Nikolič, Čančar
PF: Lešić, Zagorac
C: Zakis, Vučetić

A PG away from finalising a roster. Olimpija won't battle for the F4, obviously this is the cheapest team since... 92'? or something like this, but has some good potential for the next season if these guys make the expected progress. Eager to see Mesiček, Čančar and Vučetić develop. All of those three might be registrated for Škofja Loka in Slovenian league and play there as well simultaneusly.

Union Olimpija - Gaziantep 79:77 (23:16, 43:30, 59:58)
Lapornik 22, Mahkovic 13, Mesiček 13, Zakis 10, Lešić 7, Sajevic 6, Čančar 5 in Hrovat 3

ThePeraCar
08-27-2015, 12:45 PM
so i guess thats it
PG:Mekel,Jovic
SG:Thompson,Guduric
SF:Dangubic,Lazic
PF:Tejic,Mitrovic
C:Sofoklis,Nastic
isnt that bad afterall but i think Cedevita has higher chances to win this year ABA
also Metalac Farmakom has very interesting roster:
PG:Pot
SG:Kutlesic,Vukasinovic
SF:Malesevic,Josilo
PF:Jevtovic,Gabric
C:Majstorovic,Milicic,Jankovic
interesting that most of "top" teams in ABA is very thin on C position,but last year newcomer to ABA on paper is very strong on that position especially with Milicic aiding them this season,but question is how serious will he take this?knowing him i guess he will play for 1k euro a month and joke around on court,also Pot is steal for team like Metalac,i guess this season they are going to be just 2nd best team from Serbia after CZ

CoachZ
08-27-2015, 01:14 PM
so i guess thats it
PG:Mekel,Jovic
SG:Thompson,Guduric
SF:Dangubic,Lazic
PF:Tejic,Mitrovic
C:Sofoklis,Nastic
isnt that bad afterall but i think Cedevita has higher chances to win this year ABA
also Metalac Farmakom has very interesting roster:
PG:Pot
SG:Kutlesic,Vukasinovic
SF:Malesevic,Josilo
PF:Jevtovic,Gabric
C:Majstorovic,Milicic,Jankovic
interesting that most of "top" teams in ABA is very thin on C position,but last year newcomer to ABA on paper is very strong on that position especially with Milicic aiding them this season,but question is how serious will he take this?knowing him i guess he will play for 1k euro a month and joke around on court,also Pot is steal for team like Metalac,i guess this season they are going to be just 2nd best team from Serbia after CZ

Milicic won't be playing 99%. It's a marketing ploy, but I think they objectively have a chance to do well even without him.

ThePeraCar
08-30-2015, 06:02 PM
lets wait and see

Joško Poljak Fan
08-31-2015, 12:35 PM
Široki won't be able to gather 150k € for wild card and some people are doubting Sutjeska would do that either. Helios already established their own alpe adria league or something like that, so I don't think they'd go back now. As ussual it won't be boring, that's for sure.

Anyone with an idea about what's going on with Budućnost? Haven't noticed any signings by them, while on ABA site, half of their listed players are 96' or younger. Did they decrease the budget or are just waiting for some late signings?

CoachZ
08-31-2015, 02:59 PM
Široki won't be able to gather 150k € for wild card and some people are doubting Sutjeska would do that either. Helios already established their own alpe adria league or something like that, so I don't think they'd go back now. As ussual it won't be boring, that's for sure.

Anyone with an idea about what's going on with Budućnost? Haven't noticed any signings by them, while on ABA site, half of their listed players are 96' or younger. Did they decrease the budget or are just waiting for some late signings?

I don't think they have a smaller budget than last year, but nevertheless I think they have made some very bad basketball decisions. They had an excellent season last year only to collapse in the playoffs, even with that lead they had. I think that in general they have a very weak idea of a big picture what the team will look like and what is it they want to see in 3-5-10 years etc. That reminds me of Crvena Zvezda, up to few years ago when things changed significantly.

They have used some quick fixes and shortcuts to get better (think Paunic, Planinic, J.R. Reynolds etx) even they know that he is gone from the team after the season end (some ended up putting big numbers for them) and prevented some other players from getting minutes and discouraged a lot of younger players. Basically they have lost half a team and gave almost no playing time to the kids that might need to take over their spots and develop. That's a pity in my opinion. They have signed the other Sehovic brother and Devoe but outside a solid guard rotation for ABA League they have very little else. The problem will be competing at wings where outside Subotic they have noone. I think a long term plan is not there, otherwise offseasons like this should never happen.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-31-2015, 06:06 PM
I agree, they're ussualy trying for those one year solutions, the way Cibona and Olimpija did when they were desperately holding on euroleague and grasped for just about anyone that could improve their results even for that one year only, kind of a too result oriented roster policy. That's okay, just that it takes money for that and it's easy to be surpassed once by richer clubs and than on another occasion by some clubs nearing the peak of their long-term project. At the end, no matter some really decent players they had there with Budućnost it's not really some incredible art to achieve some noticable results through relying on full rotation of experienced guys, but than again in those games vs. Cedevita it imo did show they just lacked the quality for something more than that.
It's a bit odd they haven't announced their roster yet with that many players departuring, that's why I was asking if there is something in particular going on with them.

Also, what's Partizan's plan? I know they've got financial troubles, but are they supposed to play with some extremely young team, or bringing in 3-4 expensive players along with youth as they used to?

CoachZ
08-31-2015, 07:10 PM
I agree, they're ussualy trying for those one year solutions, the way Cibona and Olimpija did when they were desperately holding on euroleague and grasped for just about anyone that could improve their results even for that one year only, kind of a too result oriented roster policy. That's okay, just that it takes money for that and it's easy to be surpassed once by richer clubs and than on another occasion by some clubs nearing the peak of their long-term project. At the end, no matter some really decent players they had there with Budućnost it's not really some incredible art to achieve some noticable results through relying on full rotation of experienced guys, but than again in those games vs. Cedevita it imo did show they just lacked the quality for something more than that.
It's a bit odd they haven't announced their roster yet with that many players departuring, that's why I was asking if there is something in particular going on with them.

Also, what's Partizan's plan? I know they've got financial troubles, but are they supposed to play with some extremely young team, or bringing in 3-4 expensive players along with youth as they used to?

In my opinion Buducnost lacked depth last year and when you are playing a tough 5 game series that can show, and it did vs Cedevita. That is why you have to rotate and develop other players. They had one of the shortest rotations last year. They might be waiting a bit more to get a cheap deal on some vets again who won't find a club and sign them for scraps.

Regarding Partizan, things are looking extremely bad on the financial side. State has said that they will not give a penny to them, all the sponsorship money has been paid at the beginning of this year and they have none left. The football club has said they will not contribute any money to the basketball program as well, even though they have earned some cash this year with Europa League. Basically they are prepping for the season and had 2 friendlies. They won against Lebanon NT, and got destroyed by a EWE Baskets Oldenburg. They don't look good and have just barely got enough people to start prepping for the new season. The solution is not in sight, since they still don't have a new board and president.

They will enter the season with:

G - Tepic, newli signed Edi Sinadinovic, Andric, Marinkovic, Aranitovic
F - Muric (when healthy), Kouzeloglou
C - Djumic, Koprivica are both new signings and Ivan Bojanic

In general they lack quality across the board to challenge for ABA or Serbian League but they have a lot of young players. In my opinion it makes little sense to keep Tepic and add another veteran PG Sinadinovic instead of going for youth again and growing a team. It all depends, if they can swallow their pride (very hard for them to do) and endure 2 seasons with the younger players here and hope to stabilize the club financially they might be a contender again. Otherwise there is little hope for results. They can't spend any money almost and the whole roster from last year still hasn't received a single penny for playing the last season. So it's a tough sell to get players to come. Imports are 99% out of question (maybe some Balkan, no USA players though).

There is a story going around that Dodik (prime minister of Republika Srpska, basketball fan and guy behind Igokea) is offering Partizan a similar deal like Nebojsa Covic to Crvena Zvezda. Basically Partizan would merge with Igokea in players, staff, etc. Partizan would be frozen in papers and go into bankruptcy settlement and receivership. The club would play under the name Partizan-Igokea or something (might be a different name, but Partizan would be included in the name). This would go on for several years until Partizan clears the bankruptcy proceedings and is cleared of debt. Partizan fans would hate that option since they have been giving SOOO MUCH shit to Crvena Zvezda for doing that, and for them to do the same would be a huge shame for the club and fans. I personally see no problem with it, since they would at least be able to start anew and healthy and stay competitive. Many clubs have gone through tough times, it's not shame.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-31-2015, 10:04 PM
Well, Dino Murič loves posing with Partizan scarf while being Olimpija's player and already won one game for Partizan last season. Not the most inteligent player as you can see, but he is available, to my upmost joy, realising I won't have to see him wearing green anymore.

Getting out of such financial debt is a pain in the ass. Sadly without a private ownership that would keep an eye over finances, teams easily become greedy and calculate in all the buyouts, ticket revenue etc. before they're even made.

Euroleague and it's rankings and qualification system did a big part in all that mess. Teams were afraid of spending only the money they had as they could lose that place in euroleague, which draws in loss of money from sponsorship deals, tickets etc., gambled spending more just to reach top16 and few more games that would surely pay off the investment, yet got them further in debt when they failed that, eventualy lost the euroleague and whole hell suddenly broke loose. As a result Cibona, Partizan and Olimpija all at 5M+ € in debt at one point, not to mention some other simmilary protected clubs that either didn't have some sugar daddy backing them or that sugar daddy left them at some point, such as Siena, Prokom, Benetton, Virtus, Fortitudo and I've got some pretty reliable info about some more, that were either written off some large sums or even haven't yet got the news out to their fans about the financial condition of their club.


So far it seems Zvezda and Cedevita will once again be out of the league for others, Cedevita should narrow down the gap a bit.

...than there's one big nothing for a while...

and than there is a group of teams I don't even know how I'd rank.
Budućnost with some signings of the last year's level might be competing for that 3rd place, but they would nevertheless need at least 2-3 pretty decent players to be of last years level imo.
Olimpija is crowded with unproven players at this level that will have roles within the rotation, even if I like how Potočnik assembled the team and some of those will make a positive impact it's not all that sure to claim they'd improve on last season.
Krka has some young players that could make a step forward, while I expect Dimec and Tratnik making a decent breakthrough at ABA level, but they miss prooven individual quality, even if they actualy do sign Klobučar as rumoured recently
I actualy like MZT's signings namely Sinovec, Bunić, Ljubičić, but that core they kept was really poor last season and they don't seem all that improved
Igokea got some decent signings, but than again nothing spectacular for ABA circumstances so far
Mega should imo keep on the same level as last season, looking forward to seeing Luwawu and Aranitović
Cibona has the same limited oldies out there, complimenting them with some really talented youth, but than again improved only on the last years late-season version, not the early one with Blessingame, Lalić and Markota
Metalac should likely grow since last season, now some oftheir players have broken the ice and I expect them to generaly improve
Partizan as mentioned might so far be nearing the bottom of the league, untill they make some signings
Tajfun is individualy wise stronger than last season, but than again it was the chemistry and their home court (they'll play ABA in Celje, 10-15km away) that won them the Slovenian title
With Zadar it's sadly kind of hard to believe they'll hit the jackpot and replace Sobin, Florence, Ivanov adequately and seem worse than last season, unless some of their 90-95' born players make some noticable steps forward
And needless to say in case Sutjeska pays 150k € for the wild card, that's like 2 pretty decent players to build the game on they won't be able to afford.

There are still few weeks untill the league starts, just hoping that the quality won't regress even further as it did in some past seasons, so far unless some teams surprise, Cedevita and Zvezda are likely to be unchallenged.

CoachZ
09-01-2015, 01:08 PM
I would expect Metalac to make a step up and challenge for 3rd place in ABA league. They have a starting 5 with some experience and solid quality for ABA league:

PG Stefan Pot (just signed, he was an injury replacement call up to NT as well)
SG Dusan Kutlesic (who is now 20 and will again get 25+ minutes like last year. He show way tooooooo many 3s last year and sucked at it, otherwise he had a solid season. If he adapts his game and improves outside shot he will be excellent for ABA standards)
SF Nikola Malesevic
PF Nikola Jevtovic
C Djordje Majstorovic

That's a very balanced team scoring wise, with a lacking outside perimeter threat but both Malesevic and Kutlesic can't shoot that bad again. They have also signed Gabric, took Djukanovic from Zvezda youth setup. There is also a rumor that Milicic might unretire and try to help them. I think that's a retarded notion since he will only take minutes away from Majstorovic who is playing well.

In my opinion Mega will be a very exciting team to watch. I hate that the team is associated with Misko Raznatovic (he owns it), since he is one of the few people I do despise in modern basketball. On the other hand I love his idea of making a team which will basically be a feeder club/talent developer without the ambition to shoot for the stars and win titles (at least not in any near future). He wants to develop players, acquire them for peanuts as really young, give them a chance to play at a competition which is solid but at the same time not to rough to stunt their development and then sell them at a high profit. Mega will this year field a team of average age 19.5 (let's call it 20), which is amazing. It is stocked with a lot of talent though. I think clubs like Mega are vital for Serbian NT in the future since they will be a chance for young players to develop and have easier access to the NT. Both Zvezda and Partizan loan them players often which might not get minutes in their rotation. They have a lot of talent. Their starting five projects to:

PG Nikola Ivanovic (plays for Montenegro NT, he is also still only 21)
SG Rade Zagorac (20, he is one of the most intriguing NBA prospects of his generation we have. He is 6'8'' SG/SF swingman)
SF Timothe Luwawu (20, just signed with Mega, he was supposed to declare for 2015 NBA draft)
PF Danilo Nikolic (most experienced player at 22)
C Alpha Kaba (came from Pau Orthez, he is only 18)

If we take into account that in rotation they have Ognjen Jaramaz (the younger brother who just won the gold with U20 NT), they loaned Aranitovic from Zvezda, Veljkovic, Simeunovic. They are all kids 18-20 years old but they will get playing times. Few teams will be as fun to watch. At times they will make you mad and struggle, on the other hand at times their youth will be great to look at on the court and joy they play with. I would love to watch them.

ThePeraCar
09-01-2015, 01:22 PM
i expect aranitovic to step up and fight for contract in Red Star,i think ABA could be in top3 european basketball leagues if all our prospects would stay atleast 2 seasons in our clubs,imagine if this year played Nurkic,Bogdanovic,Jokic,Micic,etc...

Joško Poljak Fan
09-01-2015, 02:12 PM
Yeah, I like what Miško is doing with Mega, there are only few cases like that out there, closest being the Latvian U18 selection playing in their national league - that kind of indicates the level there, but I'm certain it played some noticable role with their junior team's succes lately.
That's a part of transition Slovenian basketball seriously lacks nowadays (unlike in the 90ies) and the likes of Dimec or Bolčina are wasting time seating behind the guys playing for peanuts whose only advantage is being a few years older without as high of a ceiling, while good talents as Kavaš brothers, Krampelj now Kodrin (all decent SF/PF's potentials) and others get lost mostly to some NCAA div II teams. Most of them are far from Luwawu or Zagorac level, but should otherwise develop into some nice ABA level players. Dissaster considering our already narrow talent pool.

The way things look as of this moment, Mega and Metalac will likely end up in the upper half of the ABA standings. I think Olimpija should be up there in that group as well, however "ABA rookies" such as Zagorac, Lapornik, Nikolič are yet to be seen on that level with constant minutes, all 3 of them limited in some aspects, Vučetić still lacks some muscles although reportedly has great work ethics and good head, Mesiček is still just 18 and Čančar won't be contributing noticably within the rotation for at least one more season. If half of those makes some steps in the positive direction in that transition to ABA level, than we're good. 5 years ago, I'd be a pesimist, but the level of mid-level teams somehow isn't the same now.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-02-2015, 08:53 AM
Sutjeska is the 14th team in ABA. Considering the level Budućnost was showing all these years, Montenegro deserved gettin a shot with 2nd team.

CoachZ
09-02-2015, 07:11 PM
Aleks Maric in Buducnost. They are still not done with bringing in players as I suspected.

http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Domaca-kosarka-i-ABA/278538/Saznajemo-Aleks-Maric-u-podgorickoj-Buducnosti

Also in other news, Tepic will be joining PAOK. It's a funny thing since they just brough Sinadinovic PG from there. So they just swapping point guards :D

http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Evropska-kosarka/278514/Tepic-iz-Partizana-odlazi-u-bratski-PAOK

Joško Poljak Fan
09-03-2015, 01:06 PM
Seems as a good signing for Budućnost, but does anyone know what was going on with him in the previous season? Seemed as a kind of season players have when battleing through injuries of various sorts.

Nemanja Protić to MZT.
However few days ago Sinovec, Lučić, Samardzinski and Cvetković were still listed in their team and I thought they were staying.


Metalac - Tajfun 78:67 (22:21, 13:27, 27:12, 16:7)
Pot 17, Gabrić 12, Jevtović 10, Majstorović, Janković 8; Ponjavić 18, Čebular 13, Bolčina 12

Not a bad result for a typical home team as Tajfun at all, considering the opponent and both main PG's missing. Yet to see how other teams will work their rosters out, but if they kept at least 80% of their last years chemistry and playing at Fiba cup won't throw them off rhythm , this edition of Tajfun should be far from "Levski level" which is commonly believed among sloppier observers.

ThePeraCar
09-03-2015, 08:41 PM
PRESEASON: kkcrvenazvezda - umobitelco 67:65. Lazić & Schortsanitis 11, Rebić 10.

CoachZ
09-03-2015, 09:19 PM
Basically we played with a mix B/C team + Sofo.

PG Rebic
SG Lazic
SF Davidovac
PF Simanic
C Sofo

That was the starting lineup. I like that Radonjic is giving kids a lot of minutes and also getting Sofo in shape!

CoachZ
09-03-2015, 09:35 PM
There is a rumor going around about Fenerbahce owner taking a stake in KK Partizan, and helping them resolve the financial situation. The talk is about forming some kind of a B-Team/Development team out of them and having a close cooperation with Fenerbahce. One of the conditions would be getting rid of Vujosevic and restructuring the club. Here is the full news in Serbian, you can use google translate.

http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Domaca-kosarka-i-ABA/278581/SAZNAJEMO-Fener-ulazi-u-KK-Partizan

ThePeraCar
09-03-2015, 09:50 PM
Vujosevic must remain,as he is,he is one of only few real opposition to Vucic and SNS,he must(with his players and fans ofc) take leading position in new upcoming national rise against this dictatorship regime in Serbia,this story about Fener,is just a...story nothing more,written by regime newspapers,trying to destabilize Vujosevic and upcoming rebelion

ThePeraCar
09-03-2015, 09:51 PM
btw how will they make young prospects when Partizan doesnt have its youth bball school?
i mean do they intend to steal from other clubs like they did in past? :D

CoachZ
09-03-2015, 09:56 PM
btw how will they make young prospects when Partizan doesnt have its youth bball school?
i mean do they intend to steal from other clubs like they did in past? :D

It will be nice 5-6 years of fucking with them now :D They were too big too fail, but they did :D

ThePeraCar
09-03-2015, 10:03 PM
If they ever had youth school this fall wouldnt be so hard,but what goes around comes around(or reverse?)

CoachZ
09-03-2015, 10:21 PM
If they ever had youth school this fall wouldnt be so hard,but what goes around comes around(or reverse?)

Well it sure will be fun to watch Sofo running down at the basket with Koprivica guarding him :D

ThePeraCar
09-03-2015, 10:34 PM
Djumic is monster IMO,but problem would be since he is playing for love,can he gain more mass from love?

MZT Skopje
09-11-2015, 12:23 PM
MZT Roster 2015/2016

Ales Pipan (SLO) will leed the team.

Mekic Adem (SG) MKD
Drenovac Đorđe (SG) SRB
Ljubičić Marko (G) SRB
Luković Marko (SG) SRB-MKD
Markovski Gorjan (SG) MKD
Mijatović Danilo(PF) SRB
Petrovski Luka (SG) MKD
Protić Nemanja (G) SRB
Stojanovski Damjan (SG) MKD
Simonovski Marko (SG) MKD
Mladenovski Ljubomir (C-PF) MKD
Bunić Duško (C) BIH

Predrag Samardzitski likely to stay, doubtful that anyone wants to sign him after this EC looool.

CoachZ
09-11-2015, 12:38 PM
MZT Roster 2015/2016

Ales Pipan (SLO) will leed the team.

Mekic Adem (SG) MKD
Drenovac Đorđe (SG) SRB
Ljubičić Marko (G) SRB
Luković Marko (SG) SRB-MKD
Markovski Gorjan (SG) MKD
Mijatović Danilo(PF) SRB
Petrovski Luka (SG) MKD
Protić Nemanja (G) SRB
Stojanovski Damjan (SG) MKD
Simonovski Marko (SG) MKD
Mladenovski Ljubomir (C-PF) MKD
Bunić Duško (C) BIH

Predrag Samardzitski likely to stay, doubtful that anyone wants to sign him after this EC looool.

Still trying to figure out why would someone sign Drenovac. That's like burning money...

MZT Skopje
09-11-2015, 12:46 PM
Yee I agree. We have no uprava.

Anyway,

This team might fight for places 5 to 9 if it stays helthy.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-15-2015, 09:38 PM
Just realized why Budućnost isn't bringing in any new players. They've been blocked since 6th August due to 60k € they owe to Čapin.

CoachZ
09-15-2015, 10:06 PM
Just realized why Budućnost isn't bringing in any new players. They've been blocked since 6th August due to 60k € they owe to Čapin.

Well they actually are :D The funny part is that probably they will take care of that soon. So far they have brought:

- Aleks Maric
- Nemanja Jaramaz
- Sehovic (always mix them up, anyway they completed the brothers duo)
- Devoe Joseph

MZT Skopje
09-15-2015, 11:53 PM
I hate that club. Can not remember when I last time watch a game in Moraca with out them getting support from the refs. Haw can a club from such small place have so big loby inside ABA.

CoachZ
09-16-2015, 12:16 AM
I hate that club. Can not remember when I last time watch a game in Moraca with out them getting support from the refs. Haw can a club from such small place have so big loby inside ABA.

They are a club with a very rich basketball tradition and they do get a lot of credit and advantage in their arena. They produced so much talent in the last 25 years especially that they many larger and richer European clubs (Dusko Ivanovic, Zarko Paspalj, Nikola Bulatovic, Gavrilo Pajovic, Sasa Pavlovic, Vlado Scepanovic, Luka Pavicevic, Dejan Radonjic, Gordic etc). I hate that arena and all the humidity it collects.

ThePeraCar
09-16-2015, 12:20 AM
I hate that club. Can not remember when I last time watch a game in Moraca with out them getting support from the refs. Haw can a club from such small place have so big loby inside ABA.

CUZ OF MILOreasons,i hate it too just look games when Red Star and Partizan plays down there and look at others,i have feeling very strong feeling in this ABA league there is very strong Anti-Serbian feelings i dont know why srsly,i mean Delije and Grobar i understand them they insult every1 everytime cuz they r retarded,but in Moraca there is killing like feeling when they play vs Serbian clubs and things and young saric singing partizan is dead blabla,alot of politics involved i dont know and i dont understand what is going with "Varvari"i guess its some kind of MNE complex or smth

MZT Skopje
09-16-2015, 12:42 AM
Ye I noticed it a few time during matches between Buducnost - Zvezda and Buducnost - Partizan.

But I think we are the best BBall fans in the region I mean FAMILY AERODROM. Cuz we keep only to basketball. No football. Varvari BBall, Handball women, football. Grobari and Delija everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIVTAe8-8Y8

We hate no one in ABA, just Rabotnicki in MKD liga. City Park Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3iaRrI6Egg

Tornado Zadar keep only to BBall too.

MZT Skopje
09-17-2015, 02:41 PM
Predrag 6 weeks with Maga. Hope he will stay there, would like to see Mladenovski get some real playing time 10-15 min to start with.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-25-2015, 04:04 PM
6 more days to go

Budućnost got Tadija Dragičević
Partizan got Vitkovac
Begić is rumoured as an option for Olimpija, with an open contract just as last year

Bilić and Lorbek were replaced by Novosel and Čabarkapa.
TV contract for the next 5 years 6.3M € with company MYD

MZT Skopje
09-25-2015, 04:29 PM
What a joke ABA starts soon and still we only have 1 registered C and 1 PF. With out Mladenovski.

This is insane.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-25-2015, 08:56 PM
Well imo Bunić was a good signing.

There is a big discrepancy regarding the friendly games played before the season. Tajfun, Mega and Olimpija will play 13 of those if I counted correctly, while Sutjeska 3, Partizan 4 and MZT 4

MZT Skopje
09-25-2015, 09:12 PM
Hre you have the test game table http://www.abaliga.com/

MZT has playd 5 so far. Tajfun 12.

MZT has playd against very poor teams so should not be taken seriozno.

Picek
09-29-2015, 04:12 AM
Bilić and Lorbek were replaced by Novosel and Čabarkapa.
TV contract for the next 5 years 6.3M € with company MYDnew managament played their game perfectly.
first they let the old team increase the number of participants from 12 to 14 because of Olimpija.
then they played a disgusting game with 14th invitation which was supposed to be decided by a qualification tournament for which teams had to pay 150 000 € (losers would get their money back) and that fiasco story was going on for 3-4 weeks. this team, that team etc. at the end Sutjeska was the only one who payed but even they didn't pay everything on time so the old managament played a game with a naive president of KK Jolly Šibenik telling him that if they pay 150 000 € they will play in ABA league.
they said yes and day later Sutjeska payed the rest of the money.
couple of weeks later Bilić and Lorbek were changed by Čabarkapa and Novosel.
leagues budget is closed for this season and their hands are clean.
win-win situation for them.
hopefully they will be more interested together with Bokan, unlike Lorbek and Bilić and the rest of mafia clan, in finding the sponsor for the league so that this entire fiasco with invitations ends.
So that we can know already now if the league will have 12 or 14 members in 2016/2017 season and that this invitation bullshit is finally done.
the logo of the league has been changed but not on the league website, season starts in two days and the league website is still not showing the schedule for the first round on it's index page.
not the greatest of starts for the new director of the league although he stated the league will hire a professional for marketing.

hoping for a good season although league looks weaker then ever before.
if anything atleast it won't be boring as more or less everyone can lose from everyone (except of the teams with top 3 budgets), especially at the beginning.
and more importantly we will see more talented kids and less foreigners which for this area was always a good thing in the long run.
and finally it is only Yugoslavian teams.
I don't want to crosscheck with previous seasons but only 17 foreigners in the league (players outside of yugoslavia, Marić included) is probably the lowest number of foreigners since the league started.
and majority of them are with big questionmark over their head as most of them are not even eurocup class. not now anyway.
that shows the economical strength of the countries as clubs can not afford them.
I guess Cedevita and Crvena Zvezda combined have a higher budget then the rest of the team from the league all together.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-29-2015, 11:10 AM
Well, Cedevita and Zvezda are both probably around 2M € budget for the first team, it shouldn't be far from reality that they overall have bigger budgets than the rest of the league. Olimpija is at record low 600.000 € for salaries, Krka a bit more I suspect, while Tajfun has an overall 800.000 € budget (for everything, 1st team and other costs), Cibona is at 450.000 € for their 1st team salaries, haven't read anything about the rest.

I'm not that enthusiastic about the ABA level dropping in the past 2-3 years. In Slovenia a team with good coach and good chemistry as Tajfun deservingly won the title last year as an actual best team, while this season Helios is actualy pretty close if not even to other Slo ABA teams, needless to say 5-10 years ago such versions of Olimpija, Krka would have troubles battleing for anything above 10th place in ABA standings, however I don't see that many other teams doing significantly better this season.

One thing is for sure, apart from top 2-3 teams the rest will likely be pretty even in standings. Unless some teams plans to sign some enormous reinforcements all of a sudden. I know Partizan will, not absolutely sure about some others.


I've just read some tweets there is an actual possibility that there won't be any ABA broadcasts for Slovenia this year. Lisac was the owner of the Šport TV that had the rights for ABA, needless to say Šport TV won't be broadcasting it now.

MZT Skopje
09-29-2015, 02:52 PM
Macedonia will be with out ABA on TV. 3 years deal with ABA and MTV is over and arenasport did stop MTV to broadcast Olimpia vs MZT.

MZT will be with out both playmakers Protic and Ljubcic for the next month or so, huge blow for MZT who didint have much of luck with the injurys last 2 years. Almost starts to get ridiculous with all these injurys.

Budget of MZT is embarrassing 400.000 euros this years. Started offensive first two years 1.2 and 1.5 milon euro, last years drop to 500.000 and now 400.000.

embarrassing to say that Kumanovo and Karpos in MKD has biggert budget than MZT. 800.000 and 600.000.

AmonRA
09-29-2015, 05:48 PM
1st two favorites
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AmonRA
09-29-2015, 07:34 PM
+ few more interesting teams..

http://s9.postimg.org/7fwpzv3en/buducnost.png
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they are searching for usa pf, plus another foreign pg..
muric and andric are currently injured and perovic still isnt fit.. with team are also kulezoglu, petrov, glisic i aranitovic...

Joško Poljak Fan
09-30-2015, 02:21 PM
1st round
Zadar - Cibona
Olimpija - MZT
Budućnost - Krka
Zvezda - Mega
Tajfun - Sutjeska
Cedevita - Igokea
Metalac - Partizan


My take:
Zadar - Cibona 1
Given the decent results of Zadar in some later friendlies as well as some major lapsuses by Cibona in those, Fisher being out of shape and now Zubac injured for a few months, I'm going with Zadar which is always tough team to beat on their home curt anyway.

Olimpija - MZT 1
Going with Olimpija since I'm largely unfamiliar with most MZT players. Olimpija was suffering a lot against the likes of Alba, Lokomotiv Kuban in some aspects of their game, however I expect some of those issues gone against not as reknown players. Olimpija could use a week or two of practicing, but as I'm reading so would MZT.

Budućnost - Krka 1
Budućnost at the end assembled a good team, even if their rotation is a bit short for my taste (could be wrong though), while Krka seemed as if they would need an aditional month to get into shape, judging by their loss against Tajfun in Slovenian supercup.

Zvezda - Mega 1
Should be an interesting match, young Mega will be a joy to watch this season imo, needless to say Zvezda is too strong for them at the moment.

Tajfun - Sutjeska 1
Tajfun seems as a further improved version of last season, they'll have issues under the rim throughout the season as without Zimić (218cm) and Bolčina (206cm) they somewhat lack height, however they've been playing friendlies for the last 2 months now and had a clear edge on Krka as far as their game goes, Sutjeska played only 3 friendlies and supposedly isn't yet playing in the desired way.

Cedevita - Igokea 1
Igokea seems as if they're still searching for some players, while on the other hand Cedevita is a complete team, with some players that should completely dominate this ABA level, in particular Žorić that imo if used properly is one of the best offensive centers in europe. I like how they've build their team this offseason.

Metalac - Partizan 1
With all due respect to Partizan, I'd be really surprised if they managed to pull out this one. Metalac is imo one of the candidates for the upper half of the standings and even with some decent talents Partizan has out there, Metalac should at this moment have an edge imo.

MZT Skopje
09-30-2015, 02:54 PM
MZT will travel to Ljubljana with out both playmakers Protic and Ljubcic (Both are povredeni). I just wonder how will a team look like with out playmaker ?. Can not see Olimpia lose this one.

AmonRA
09-30-2015, 06:05 PM
let the game begin :p

1st round
Zadar - Cibona 1
Olimpija - MZT 1
Budućnost - Krka 1
Zvezda - Mega 1
Tajfun - Sutjeska 1
Cedevita - Igokea 1
Metalac - Partizan 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-02-2015, 09:15 AM
MZT was a no match without two pointguards, Wright had a private party on both sides of the floor, feels really comfortable with Lešić on the floor and some others played along. 72% F2 and 91 points scored were no coincidence, however there are quite some stuff to do on the defensive end there from rotations, communication to some tactics to prevent the inside game which this version of Olimpija is terrible at defending. Potential of this team is there, bigger than most fans believe, however that "room for improvement" never made a team win and imo some Mirza Begić or simmilar type of "rim-protector" could be that key difference between some cinderella season and an average one.
No matter the result, this team is a great investment for the future.

Mesiček was being attacked and exploited constantly in defense, other than that he showed his talent, basicaly apart from physical aspects he already is a 1on1 beast, if things go his way and he avoids serious injuries, he will be dominating the game on this level pretty soon.

Pretty good schedule for Olimpija further on, now visiting in Igokea, Sutjeska at home, Cibona in Zagreb and Krka home. Considering they are not yet in the right shape that's a big + as playing against some upper or mid-level teams right now could hurt their final overall standings.


Budućnost relised heavily on Šehović bros., Tadija and Cook that got them a win there. Marić seemed like he needs some time to get in his old ways, surely Lalić isn't a bad defender, but neither great one. Cook, as much as he always had an exceptional court-vision I don't think his lack of penetration ability is helping there. No surprise, his playing peak was just before that 3 pointer lenght change, when this type of play was very much needed to create an advantage, afterwards it has gone a bit down as, it's usefull, but nowadays anyone able to put the ball on the floor can create some room and his passes are less vital.
Krka on the other hand would kill for a player like him as they're acting as creative as some workers behind some assembly line. No extra energy, no creating, noone to disrupt offense with their passing, create room for others and accordingly even usefull players as Mulalić that was a constant threat in offense opponents had to keep an eye on last season or Lapornik that is a good complimentary SG/SF look like some scrubs there. Krka might need more games to start showing their potential, however as much as Armstead hurted them on occasions last year he had those wheels spinning.
With their native talents Zatežič, Janc, Zupan, Bratož and some others from relatively decent youth teams they had the last few years, regulary getting no chance I don't see some added value from Ivanov, Sinovec, Katnić playing heavy minutes there while obviously they'll get quite a few more wins for the team, the story will repeat itself with the need for 3-4 average foreigners the next season and the season after and so on. While some Dimec/Polutak, Ritlop/Bolčina, Kastrati/Zupan, Zatežić/..., Janc/Bratož team might compete for the last place in ABA even with Mulalič, Lapornik and 1-2 quality foreigners, but that team would at least offer some vision their fans could identify with and look up to. I don't think they have that right now.


Mega kept it close with Zvezda, good job. Ražnatović says Zagorac broke his arm though and is likely to be out for a few months.

MZT Skopje
10-02-2015, 02:43 PM
Ye deserved Olimpia win controled match from start to finish. Prob the most easy match ever for Wright since he had no PG opononet on the court. Both will be out for a month, thats about 8 games MZT need to do something they can not play like this with out PG against anyone.

AmonRA
10-02-2015, 05:40 PM
2nd round
Crvena zvezda: Budućnost 1
Krka : Zadar 1
Mega:Partizan 1
MZT : Metalac 1
Cibona : Tajfun 1
Sutjeska : Cedevita 2
Igokea : Olimpija 2

AmonRA
10-02-2015, 09:14 PM
standings after 1st round

Josko 7/7 100%
AmonRa 7/7 100%

Joško Poljak Fan
10-03-2015, 01:08 PM
I'm tempted to just repeat the predictions after you, we could both be winners if noone else joins in :)


Crvena zvezda: Budućnost 1
The game of the round. Haven't watched Zvezda yet, however Budućnost isn't yet at it's optimal shape and Marić might need some additional time for that also.

Krka : Zadar 2
To be honest, the way Krka is playing at the moment it's pretty hard to imagine them winning games, they'll need to change some stuff fast, include some of their player's strenghts within their system and start playing a smarter and less static team bball, I think Zadar actualy has an edge there as far as team play goes and in case Krka falls asleep in the first minutes which kind of looks like their tendency so far, Zadar might start with a +10 points advantage.

Mega : Partizan 1
Too bad about Zagorac, he will be missed and will eventualy cost Mega some games, I think Mega is still strong enough to pass on Partizan, but I don't expect it to be some easy game at all.

MZT : Metalac 2
Both PG's missing is too much to bare for MZT imo, on bball pressure should bring the win to Metalac if they're able to play that for some prolongued period

Cibona : Tajfun 2
Tajfun will get pounded under the rim, however if they manage to hold their own there (translation: if Bolčina is able to go without 2 intentional fouls within first 10 minutes :p) and play relaxed, Cibona might have some issues getting outscored from the perimeter. I'm going with a guess here since a relaxed Tajfun is a much better team than they've shown against Sutjeska, they will have absolutely nothing to lose in this game and are well oiled team at this stage already.

Sutjeska : Cedevita 2
Cedevita had issues against a perimeter oriented team in Igokea yesterday, their win was never questionable, yet to my surprise Igokea kept close. Sutjeska as a good shooting team, on their home court might be dangerous, they'll will lose some games that people won't expect them to, however will definately collect some noticable scalps there as they are the prototype of a dangerous home team. If their shots start dropping and don't get butchered under the rim (Igokea wasn't really and it's not like they have some great post presence there) Cedevita will be in for a tough game.

Igokea : Olimpija 2
Olimpija's biggest weakness is lack of experience and lack of height under the rim, Igokea kind of doesn't seem to have the best tools to utilise that. As ussual this game will depend on controling the rebounds for Olimpija, firepower is there, but for utilising it, ball possesions have to be gained. I expect Wright pressing on Čapin and cutting him off to a large degree, Radivojević won't go 0/10 from 3point range every single game either.

AmonRA
10-03-2015, 01:20 PM
I'm tempted to just repeat the predictions after you, we could both be winners if noone else joins in :)


lol we will share the prize :p


By the way, I will change my prediction...
Mega-Partizan 2

Milojevic said that beside Zagorac, Ivanovic also will not play and that Jankovic is questionable..
so for me is clear win for partizan...

Joško Poljak Fan
10-03-2015, 02:50 PM
Count me in for the same than, I'm not that confident in that prediction either, complete Mega would be a different issue though.

AmonRA
10-03-2015, 05:03 PM
Count me in for the same than, I'm not that confident in that prediction either, complete Mega would be a different issue though.
Ok
With Zagorac there will be no doubt, even without Zagorac, Mega will be closer to win, but without 3 starters from 1st round, Ivanovic, Zagorac and Jankovic, (+erlier missing Aranitovic and Kaba), bigger chances are on Partizan side..

AmonRA
10-04-2015, 04:54 PM
well done Mega, despite big absences of starters, they manage to beat Partizan, pretty easily at the end..

it's really pity that Zagorac got so big injury, with him, and with recovered Kaba and Ivanovic, they will easily be in first 4..

Joško Poljak Fan
10-04-2015, 04:56 PM
Janković and Aranitović played and Luwawu exploded. Mega won, we both lost :cool:

AmonRA
10-04-2015, 05:09 PM
Janković and Aranitović played and Luwawu exploded. Mega won, we both lost :cool:

well, I am always glad, when I miss that Partizan will win.. :p

MZT Skopje
10-04-2015, 07:45 PM
MZT at least gott one of the playmakers back, Ljubcic who playd well tonight, pity didint play against Union. And MZT won 93-67. MZT might have a good sezona when also Protic return.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-04-2015, 09:27 PM
well, I am always glad, when I miss that Partizan will win.. :p
Delije as ussual :)

Only saw some glimps from the game, not enough to make any comments. I do think Partizan will be a whole different team when they add one or two more players to this group.
In Slovenia the broadcast rights went to siol that basicaly only covers one third of the country :rolleyes: without sport arena I'm basicaly destined to watch these games on internet broadcasts only. I absolutely hate it.

Also missed my prediction with Tajfun, but they were damn close winning in Zagreb. I think they need one scalp from one of the better teams to loosen up a bit and realise they can play at this level. They are somewhat a "home team" so basicaly I don't expect them to win many (if any) games abroad, even if this game was quite encouraging. Within some time when other teams will realize their weaknesses, they'll provocate on Bolčina who is basicaly a really welcome target for that, he'll foul out within 10 minutes and than attack Zimić from various aspects all day long as Tajfun has noone else to play under the rim left.

Glad to see MZT is on another level with Ljubičić in the game, it was obvious in Ljubljana they were suffering a lot from PG position, offensively and defensively.

ThePeraCar
10-04-2015, 10:32 PM
I dont like this ABA league

MZT Skopje
10-05-2015, 12:28 AM
what do you mean ?

AmonRA
10-05-2015, 07:57 AM
what do you mean ?

he mean that quality of the league is on amater level..


by the way, why dont you both join us in prediction game?

CoachZ
10-05-2015, 08:27 AM
he mean that quality of the league is on amater level..

by the way, why dont you both join us in prediction game?

I wouldn't say that the competition is that bad. Basically the league just started, so we can't expect teams to look that good right away. The league is very top heavy this year with Crvena Zvezda and Cedevita outclassing everyone in the league but I think there will be interesting battles in Tier 2 and Tier 3 teams and quite a few surprises. I still think this is Zvezda's league to lose, but I do think there will be some good basketball to be seen.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-05-2015, 09:35 AM
There will be some great basketball to see, definately, the league isn't all that bad and quite some teams keep bringing in a player or two in, but truth to be told, the level did drop from 13/14 level. There are quite some candidates this season that would 5 years ago likely end up last in the league with 3-4 wins only, at least it seems this way right now.

ThePeraCar
10-05-2015, 01:15 PM
When i thought there are no more teams in ABA league like Levski,mighty Partizan appears

MZT Skopje
10-05-2015, 01:52 PM
Zadar vs Zvezda 2
Cedevita vs Cibona 1
Tajfun vs Krka 2
Partizan vs MZT 2 (Partizan look realy poor, and since at least one of 2 MZT playmakers Ljubicic returned I se MZT as favourite, and if also Protic playd Partizan with 0 chance, now it is 20-25%)
Mealac vs Igokea 1
Olimpia vs Sutjeska 1
Buducnost : Mega 1

AmonRA
10-06-2015, 09:10 AM
standings after 2nd round

AmonRa 12/14 85,7 %
Josko 9/14 64,3 %

AmonRA
10-06-2015, 09:10 AM
3rd round
Zadar vs Zvezda 2
Cedevita vs Cibona 1
Tajfun vs Krka 2
Partizan vs MZT 1
Mealac vs Igokea 1
Olimpia vs Sutjeska 1
Buducnost : Mega 1

ThePeraCar
10-06-2015, 01:07 PM
3rd round
Zadar vs Zvezda 2
Cedevita vs Cibona 1
Tajfun vs Krka 1
Partizan vs MZT 2
Metalac vs Igokea 1
Olimpia vs Sutjeska 1
Buducnost : Mega 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-06-2015, 02:23 PM
Damn, worse game inside the paint I've seen from Olimpija in probably last decade, yet they were still close and should win regardless :rolleyes:

Zadar vs Zvezda 2
Cedevita vs Cibona 1
Tajfun vs Krka 1
Partizan vs MZT 1
Metalac vs Igokea 1
Olimpija vs Sutjeska 1
Buducnost : Mega 1

ThePeraCar
10-06-2015, 09:03 PM
im very sad for MZT great chance but wtf

Obina
10-06-2015, 09:33 PM
I think that league is awful this season.

Zvezda, Cedevita good teams, Buducnost and Mega solid, rest is really mediocre.

Half league has no C, too much recreative players like Mikulic, Sinadinovic, Djumic...

Joško Poljak Fan
10-06-2015, 09:41 PM
Krka by now has a Tajfun complex, that's 4th official game in a row they've lost, however this was the biggest blowout of them all.
Krka plays against Cedevita and Olimpija in the next two rounds, if they will look as powerless against those two teams, my guess is Velić's position as a head coach will be a bit shaky.

Obina, I would generaly agree, however it's only the 3rd round now and a mere week into the season, I think we'll be able to evaluate the strenght of the league sometime within a month or so. Right now it does look like the way you said, though.

Obina
10-06-2015, 09:54 PM
Tajfun is the most positive surprise for now.

It will be an interesting fight for 4th place. I prefer Mega, Partizan and Olimpija (depend of new players). Olimpija needs better C than Zakis and one shooter like Prepelic or Salin for example.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-06-2015, 10:38 PM
The question for me was if Tajfun is able to keep their chemistry from last season, as weird as it sounds, they actualy were the best team in out championship last year. So far all their additions fit in well. However they're already runing at higher gear than some other teams in the league, their performance will inevitably drop within a while, unless they find some reserves within their game.

Zakis so far seems as a complete miss and a painfull one as well, as with someone that could take care of some of those rebounds and actualy finish from passes, Olimpija would be a promising team. Lapornik seems as an improvement over Prepelič so far. Has better release, good reliable mid-range game, lacks experience on this level but so far promises to once become a pretty good scorer if things keep going his way.

As for who will end up in the 4th place, If I had to bet right now, I'd bet on Mega.

ThePeraCar
10-06-2015, 10:56 PM
You know how fucked up league is when Raznatovic's guinea pig is one of best teams in league lol...

MZT Skopje
10-07-2015, 12:47 AM
Some realy bad luck just keep on fallow MZT. As long Ljubicic playd (23 min, 12 points and 6 assistencije) 54-41 MZT +13 MZT, Cvetkovic had no chance against Ljubicic. He got his 3th faul at the begining of second half we than lost whole leed, entered again we made +8, than he injured his food again. Boze dragi.

This Edi Sinadinovic MZT should get rid of, better to play with out playmaker than him.

It is sad when you lose games you would have won with Ljubicic and Protic playing. Seems Ljubicic will rest against Mega so 1-3 start is expected and prob would have been 4-0 of Protic and Ljubicic playd all 4 games. Frustrating to lose games just cuz both your playmakers are out.

AmonRA
10-07-2015, 08:55 PM
standings after 3rd round

AmonRa 16/21 76,2 %
Josko 13/21 61,9 %
MZT 3/7 42,9%
Exitche 3/7 42,9%

AmonRA
10-07-2015, 08:57 PM
4th round
Crvena zvezda-Tajfun 1
Mega-MZT 1
Krka-Cedevita 2
Budućnost-Zadar 1
Cibona-Olimpija 1
Igokea-Partizan 1
Sutjeska-Metalac 1

ThePeraCar
10-07-2015, 09:54 PM
4th round
Crvena zvezda-Tajfun 1
Mega-MZT 1
Krka-Cedevita 2
Budućnost-Zadar 1
Cibona-Olimpija 2
Igokea-Partizan 2
Sutjeska-Metalac 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-08-2015, 02:40 PM
Crvena zvezda-Tajfun 1
Mega-MZT 1
Krka-Cedevita 2
Budućnost-Zadar 1
Cibona-Olimpija 1
Igokea-Partizan 1
Sutjeska-Metalac 1

It's not that Cibona would play some great game, but after losing to Sutjeska and Igokea, Olimpija has enough problems on their own

Obina
10-08-2015, 09:17 PM
Zvezda:Tajfun 113-66

We raising form for euroleague...Radonjic said after match that one more player will come.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-10-2015, 11:05 AM
Olimpija won against Cibona once again in a last seconds game, zone defense got them out of the rhytm in otherwise a decent performance through some portions of the game. With this pace of games being played the game alone wasn't in particular high level. Few are, surely the level of ABA dropped a bit, but this pace also has quite a lot to do with it.
Cibona played with 7-8 players rotation and unless they bring some more players I think they're basicaly guaranteed for the lower half of the league with this roster, since Olimpija can't defend a chair in the paint yet got to +19 at one point, when they'll face some team with some actual interior defense that's where their troubles will begin. Never mind the question, but even with 22 points, I'm sure Berisha isnt the answer.

Cedevita was caught on the left foot against Krka, partialy due to players being kind of fed up with the schedule and intensity - it's the same for all teams, don't get me wrong. Krka for the first time this season played some normal basketball and looked the way I expected them to in offense before the season, without some players looking as if they forgot how to play basketball.

AmonRA
10-10-2015, 12:34 PM
Partizan tabs Andjusic and Dino Muric.. also stil searching for some C, and maybe PG..

ThePeraCar
10-10-2015, 05:31 PM
Igokea partizan won and Partizan igokea lost :/

Picek
10-10-2015, 05:58 PM
Olimpija won against Cibona once again in a last seconds game, zone defense got them out of the rhytm in otherwise a decent performance through some portions of the game. With this pace of games being played the game alone wasn't in particular high level. Few are, surely the level of ABA dropped a bit, but this pace also has quite a lot to do with it.
Cibona played with 7-8 players rotation and unless they bring some more players I think they're basicaly guaranteed for the lower half of the league with this roster, since Olimpija can't defend a chair in the paint yet got to +19 at one point, when they'll face some team with some actual interior defense that's where their troubles will begin. Never mind the question, but even with 22 points, I'm sure Berisha isnt the answer.
.
I'm still having problem with my digestion after yesterdays game.
the quality level of basketball played in some moments was..
I can not really find a word which would be most suitable to describe that.

as for us, we were turning the ball over faster then the stats table was able to count it.
Fisher didn't play a second yesterday meaning he will most probably get cut from the team as he can not or doesn't want to resolve his weight issues.
Šiško is on FIBA's arbitrage as he did not get the clearance letter.
Hukić got injured in the first half yesterday.
Zubac is out long term because of injury..

we will surely bring someone if we cut Fisher.

AmonRA
10-10-2015, 06:06 PM
standings after 4th round

AmonRa 21/28 75 %
Josko 18/28 64,3 %
Exitche 8/14 57,1%
MZT 3/7 42,9%

AmonRA
10-10-2015, 06:08 PM
5th round
Tajfun-Budućnost 2
Cedevita-Crvena zvezda 2
Olimpija-Krka 1
Zadar-Mega Leks 1
Metalac-Cibona 2
MZT -Igokea 1
Partizan-Sutjeska 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-11-2015, 09:20 PM
dammit, forgot about predictions. This pace with games being played every single day is killing me.

Zadar-Mega Leks 1
Metalac-Cibona 1
MZT -Igokea 1
Partizan-Sutjeska 2

I'll be surprised if Krka's Velić will still be the coach tommorow. Even if they haven't lost to Olimpija by 30 for almost 15 years, it's the attitude of the players as well as players selection that will likely get him fired. And imo, rightfully so.
Tratnik was brought in a package with Dimec and some say Rojc wouldn't stay in Krka if they wouldn't have the same manager (Boris Gorenc), however in the last few games Ivanov beats both of them, probably even for some noticable wage he has never seen before. 7 points in 29 minutes with 22% F2% and +- -57 in these 5 games (once best with +13 vs. Zadar, 3 times worst and once almost the worst +- player in the team).

This is the worst performance by Krka I've seen since that debacle in euroleague vs. CSKA, just that Olimpija isn't on the CSKA's level unfortunately :)

MZT Skopje
10-14-2015, 11:05 AM
Zadar Tajfun 1
Cibona Partizan 1
Kra Metalac 1
Buducnost Cedevita 1
Sutjeska MZT 2
Mega Igokea 1
Zvezda Olimpia 1

AmonRA
10-14-2015, 12:09 PM
standings after 5th round

AmonRa 25/35 71,4 %
Josko 20/32 62,5 %
Exitche 8/14 57,1%
MZT 3/7 42,9%

AmonRA
10-14-2015, 12:10 PM
6th round
Zadar Tajfun 1
Cibona Partizan 2
Kra Metalac 1
Buducnost Cedevita 1
Sutjeska MZT 1
Mega Igokea 1
Zvezda Olimpia 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-16-2015, 09:38 AM
Zadar Tajfun 1
2 is tempting as Zadar has probably the worst team in last 50 years or so

Cibona Partizan 1
Both Americans and Berisha are gone, Florence and Joksimovič in, with some organisation out there Cibona might just improve a lot.

Krka Metalac 1
Krka owes their fans some incredible performance after the last game

Buducnost Cedevita 2
Budućnost is good, but apart from some relations on court, I'm not yet impressed with them

Sutjeska MZT 1

Mega Igokea 1

Zvezda Olimpija 1
Zirbes will ridiciously dominate the paint and Zvezda fans will be frustrated by Olimpija's 3point shot

CoachZ
10-16-2015, 01:23 PM
Zadar Tajfun 1
2 is tempting as Zadar has probably the worst team in last 50 years or so

Cibona Partizan 1
Both Americans and Berisha are gone, Florence and Joksimovič in, with some organisation out there Cibona might just improve a lot.

Krka Metalac 1
Krka owes their fans some incredible performance after the last game

Buducnost Cedevita 2
Budućnost is good, but apart from some relations on court, I'm not yet impressed with them

Sutjeska MZT 1

Mega Igokea 1

Zvezda Olimpija 1
Zirbes will ridiciously dominate the paint and Zvezda fans will be frustrated by Olimpija's 3point shot

I agree with most of your predictions. I find it tough that Mega will beat Igokea though. They have started well and should be a tough cookie.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-16-2015, 01:35 PM
Imo Igokea is too reliant on Čapin/Radivojević on the perimeter, they can't do it all by themselves, Radenović didn't yet seem in shape the last round, they've got a nice team, while overall I don't expect them to be generaly as consistent as neccesary to win many games abroad. Radenović could change that with time, that's true.

Picek
10-16-2015, 02:15 PM
Berisha will play against Partizan.
Florence plays his last game with Paris tonight so he won't be available tomorrow, joksimovič should play.

CoachZ
10-16-2015, 02:19 PM
Berisha will play against Partizan.
Florence plays his last game with Paris tonight so he won't be available tomorrow, joksimovič should play.

Berisha needs a lot of discipline, a lot! I don't get it how an unproven player like him can walk into a team with such tradition as Cibona, and play such selfish ball and behave like he owns the place. That's what kills me. He is far from a key player for Cibona.

Obina
10-18-2015, 09:43 PM
Congrats to JPF. Absolutely deserved win.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-19-2015, 11:19 AM
Thanks :) Didn't expect it though, Olimpija's defensive switches on PF and C are a big weakness there, however weren't as obvious this game. Zirbes wasn't as dominant as expected, free throws definately played a role there, while this Olimpija can either go 5/20 or 15/25 from 3point range and in case they start nailing those shots and the floor opens up due to it, some nice offensive options open up.
Glad to see Mesiček playing like this in the decisive moments. I feel bad for Mitrović's injury, I constantly had knee issues myself and I can imagine how frustrating this has to be for him. Wish him quick recovery.

Krka once again abysmail, against Metalac this time.

Cedevita with such editions of White and Pullen won't achieve much, without those two performing well, they lack perimeter way too much for my taste.

Picek
10-19-2015, 07:35 PM
we won against Partizan with Joksimovič playing and giving us some composure by removing some pressure from Mavra and especially Krušlin who was our best player on court and showed he can shoot.
we ended at 14 TO's against Partizan, even if it was a season low for us it is still a pretty big number so hopefully addition of Florence will help us even more in that segment.
we have a rough schedule in the next 6 games as we will be playing 5 games away from home due to our arena being occupied and also next week FIBA eurocup starts which means we will be playing two games a week.
without Hukić, Zubac and Šiško our roster is still thin as we have only 9 players and we will need to see how we will look like playing two games a week.

AmonRA
10-19-2015, 09:06 PM
Congrats to JPF. Absolutely deserved win.
+1
For us, much bigger problem is injury of Luka, and he will be out for several months..
practically, now we stay without both PF..

Also, I`am surprised(positive ofcourse :) ) with Cibona`s win against Partizan..

AmonRA
10-19-2015, 09:22 PM
standings after 6th round

AmonRa 28/42 66,67 %
Josko 23/39 59 %
Exitche 8/14 57,1%
MZT 8/14 57,1%

it seems that we are not in good "shape":p

AmonRA
10-19-2015, 09:28 PM
7th round
Tajfun : Mega Leks 2
Olimpija : Budućnost 1
Partizan: Krka 1
Igokea : Sutjeska 1
MZT : Cibona 1
Cedevita : Zadar 1
Metalac : Crvena zvezda 2

ThePeraCar
10-19-2015, 09:42 PM
Tajfun : Mega Leks 1
Olimpija : Budućnost 2
Partizan: Krka 2
Igokea : Sutjeska 2
MZT : Cibona 1
Cedevita : Zadar 1
Metalac : Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
10-19-2015, 11:48 PM
It's not our shape, it's the teams that are unpredictable :P apart from top3 teams other 9 can either win or lose any given game...

Tajfun : Mega Leks 1
Olimpija : Budućnost 1
Partizan: Krka 1
Igokea : Sutjeska 1
MZT : Cibona 1
Cedevita : Zadar 1
Metalac : Crvena zvezda 2

MZT Skopje
10-20-2015, 10:21 PM
Tajfun : Mega Leks 1
Olimpija : Budućnost 1
Partizan: Krka 1
Igokea : Sutjeska 1
MZT : Pocekovi 1
Cedevita : Zadar 1
Metalac : Crvena zvezda 2


Ye 2 wins for us ina raw and i expect 3th one as well. Things started to look good as soon Pipan drop Sinadinovic from the roster, just 2 min against Igokea and after that game MZT did fire him.

MZT lost 3 pints gainst Partizan in Belgrade, Sinadinovic -13 in +-, -12 against Mega in Belgrade Sinadinovic -21, in just 7 minutes. MZT wos at +20 when he entered the court.


Dude even hade -6 against Metalac with 15 min on the court and yet MZT won with 26 points. In just 2 min against Igokea -3.

He wos prob the worst player in the history of ABA. But its not only his foult, also Pipan foult who did not drive Ljubicic 35 min against Partizan and Mega as long Protic is out he most do that and he will be out one more game return for Krka game. Should have been 5-1 and not 3-3.

AmonRA
10-27-2015, 03:13 PM
standings after 7th round

AmonRa 32/49 65,3 %
Josko 26/46 56,5 %
Exitche 11/21 52,3%
MZT 11/21 52,3%

AmonRA
10-27-2015, 03:14 PM
8th round

Mega Leks-Sutjeska 1
Zadar-Olimpija 1
Krka-MZT 1
Budućnost-Metalac 1
Cibona-Igokea 2
Tajfun-Cedevita 2
Crvena zvezda-Partizan 1

AmonRA
10-27-2015, 03:15 PM
by the way, Zvezda replaced Sofo with Stimac.. :facepalm:

Joško Poljak Fan
10-28-2015, 11:19 AM
I missed 4 out of 7 games lol :D

anyway, nevermind how terrible I am at this, I refuse to give up

Mega Leks-Sutjeska 1
Sutjeska plays a sort of bball that will give them chances for a win in some games, I don't believe they'll end up last in this league. Mega on the other hand has some noticably better defensive abilities and along with the home court, I think those should do.

Zadar-Olimpija 2
Zagorac and Mahkovic are expected to return from the injured list, Zadar got Delaš now, however I doubt that would make a big enough difference. Missed their win against Cedevita, however the way they played untill than, Olimpija loosing there would be a dissaster.

Krka-MZT 1
Krka is at the moment the worst performing team in the league given their roster, that 3pointer against Partizan might be good for their confidence, however their issues are the same and I don't expect them to do much better untill december, which is kind of too late to be honest.

Budućnost-Metalac 1
Pretty much expecting a one way game

Cibona-Igokea 2
Cibona did improve a bit, yet they'd have to improve by a lot. Igokea has a clear edge as far as the individual quality goes.

Tajfun-Cedevita 1
Just a speculation, Cedevita will get emotionaly empty after the next euroleague games and I'm expecting loads of underestimation from Cedevita and don't think Tajfun can be as mediocre from the range as in the last few games. If the game stays close in the 3rd quarter that is, if not I betted on the wrong horse once again :)

Crvena zvezda-Partizan 1
Partizan will give it all, definately. I don't think that would be enough.


Well, I don't think Štimac fits in perfectly, however it's almost impossible to find a center of a high quality in the middle of the season that does. He'll bring some of that fighting spirit and imo will be an improvement over Sofo.
However I have to shake my head in dissbelief Zvezda signed Sofo in the first place, I thought there was some plan on using him, however got a feeling that was merely buying a name instead.

What's going on with Thompson nowadays?

MZT Skopje
10-28-2015, 11:39 AM
Mega Leks-Sutjeska 1
Zadar-Olimpija 1
Krka-MZT 2
Budućnost-Metalac 1
Cibona-Igokea 1
Tajfun-Cedevita 2
Crvena zvezda-Partizan 1


Finaly, The Best MZT playmaker Nemanja Protic is expected to make comback against Krka. While 3 point bomber Marko Simonovski is against Zvezda.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-28-2015, 12:27 PM
btw. Cedevita parted ways with Zubčić? I haven't seen that coming, he wasn't paying spectacular, but than again he wasn't playing much different than in the previous season, or is it something I missed?

AmonRA
10-28-2015, 03:03 PM
Well, I don't think Štimac fits in perfectly, however it's almost impossible to find a center of a high quality in the middle of the season that does. He'll bring some of that fighting spirit and imo will be an improvement over Sofo.
However I have to shake my head in dissbelief Zvezda signed Sofo in the first place, I thought there was some plan on using him, however got a feeling that was merely buying a name instead.

What's going on with Thompson nowadays?
Sofo play like he play earlier, and I disagree that he didn't fight..
From the beginning they didnt know how to use Sofo, and as you said, it seems they were buying name..

I dont know why Thompson looks so terribly, and play without confidence :confused:
But for know, he`s status is not in "danger", which we can not say for the Mekel, who is also on the "black list"..

Also, rumours about returning MWill in december are more lauder and lauder..

from no reason, totally mess in Zvezda :facepalm:

Jon_Koncak
10-28-2015, 09:52 PM
What has happened to http://www.abaliga.com/?
I cant find current seasons stats.

CoachZ
10-28-2015, 10:02 PM
they moved to a new site www.aba-liga.com

Somehow they left the old one operational :D

Jon_Koncak
10-29-2015, 12:13 PM
Thanks man,google is still giving the old site first.New one nowhere to be seen.It was bothering me cause the old one was still posting news but not stats and result.

pohani komarac
11-01-2015, 08:30 PM
So far I didn't have stomach to watch one full game and it makes me sad. Quality level hit lowest point ever. To many players left and play outside our borders, just to many... Impossible to reproduce enough players to stay at high level, while not having money to buy good foreigners.

Picek
11-03-2015, 06:01 AM
Žan Mark Šiško had his ABA debut against Igokea.
In 21 minutes, 11 points (4/4 FG), 3 assists, 1 steal.
We just have to found a way how to give him a croatian citizenship and we will finally have our PG issue solved.:)

CoachZ
11-03-2015, 09:08 AM
Žan Mark Šiško had his ABA debut against Igokea.
In 21 minutes, 11 points (4/4 FG), 3 assists, 1 steal.
We just have to found a way how to give him a croatian citizenship and we will finally have our PG issue solved.:)

Polako, ipak je jos uvek klinac :D Ali svakako obecava :D

"easy he is just a kid, but in any case promising"
Providede it for you
man, english or translation. ;)
JPF

Joško Poljak Fan
11-03-2015, 10:16 AM
So far I didn't have stomach to watch one full game and it makes me sad. Quality level hit lowest point ever. To many players left and play outside our borders, just to many... Impossible to reproduce enough players to stay at high level, while not having money to buy good foreigners.
Well, the referees with their dumb aproach to traveling violations helped a ot making the games unbearable along with that crazy schedule at the start that meant less practices and even more confused games due to it as teams lacked time to correct their flaws. The game level is lower, however not as lower as those two issues made it look in my opinion.


Žan Mark Šiško had his ABA debut against Igokea.
In 21 minutes, 11 points (4/4 FG), 3 assists, 1 steal.
We just have to found a way how to give him a croatian citizenship and we will finally have our PG issue solved.:)
I've read some stuff on one of the croatian forums about him. Olimpija didn't actually give up on him, they begged him to stay, however got under the influence of his manager that obviously has some other plans and his dad, which is the coach of U14 with Olimpija didn't want to get involved. Potočnik was Šiško's coach in junior cathegories and claimed 2 years ago that in case Šiško, Mesiček and Čančar won't develop into serious players he'll stop basketball alltogether :) Now that he is not here, well, I guess Olimpija will try signing Rebec next season.
He is a smart player and understands the game, however the way he carried the ball over against zone pressure, surprised me considering his age and experience.

With Florence Cibona just improved a lot, they really needed one such creator and surprisingly enough the game against Igokea was not even close after the first quarter. They could play for 10 more hours and nothing would change.

Olimpija was despicable in Zadar and instead on building up on progress from some past games, has showed the worst performance this season so far. Zagorac is missing and two others have some injury issues, but that can't be an excuse.

CoachZ
11-03-2015, 02:54 PM
Polako, ipak je jos uvek klinac :D Ali svakako obecava :D

"easy he is just a kid, but in any case promising"
Providede it for you
man, english or translation. ;)
JPF

Hahaha I have just seen this. I was typing on another Serbian forum about sports betting, so the brain just went crazy. :D Sorry, honest mistake.

AmonRA
11-03-2015, 10:35 PM
standings after 8th round

AmonRa 38/56 67,9 %
Josko 30/53 56,6 %
MZT 17/28 60,7%
Exitche 11/21 52,3%

AmonRA
11-03-2015, 10:37 PM
9th round

Metalac-Zadar 1
Igokea-Krka 1
Sutjeska-Cibona 2
Partizan-Budućnost 2
Tajfun-Olimpija 2
Cedevita-Mega Leks 1
MZT-Crvena zvezda 2

AmonRA
11-04-2015, 10:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6qvoVVb.gif
lol

Joško Poljak Fan
11-05-2015, 01:18 PM
lol nice pic

Metalac - Zadar 1
I still consider Zadar as one of the worst teams out there and still shake my head in disbelief Olimpija lost the last round. Metalac should win on their home court

Igokea - Krka 1
Krka is showing some signs of waking up, however they deserve the "worst players selection considering the money spent" award by a mile. Igokea's game was practicaly non-existant with Čapin on bench in Zagreb, Cibona made the best of that and that loss is not neccesarily the best indication of Igokea's strenght.

Sutjeska - Cibona 1
Sutjeska, nevermind their score, has a formidable team that won't be as easy to beat at home, while Cibona screwed their image left against Igokea with a loss on homecourt against Antwerpen yesterday and it didn't even seem close.

Partizan - Budućnost 2
Partizan slowely bringing in reinforcements as expected, however Budućnost still has a noticable quality edge.

Tajfun - Olimpija 2
Tajfun's crisis from the 3pointer range continues throught last month. They're classicaly putting a lot of effort on the rebounding, exactly where Olimpija is weak this season and if they could fully use that advantage the game could get close. Other than that they're a pretty bad match for Krka, with Olimpija's ability of perimeter pressure I think it should be an easy win.

Cedevita - Mega Leks 1
Mega is having a good run this season, however with Cedevita's edge under the rim, experience and physical abilities my bet's on Ceda.

MZT - Crvena zvezda 2
With Sofo gone Zvezda just covered up one of the stuff that wasn't going for them. I agree with AmonRa few posts above, Sofo wasn't used properly, have to see what the new american brings to the table.

Picek
11-06-2015, 04:48 PM
lol nice pic

Metalac - Zadar 1
I still consider Zadar as one of the worst teams out there and still shake my head in disbelief Olimpija lost the last round. Metalac should win on their home court
.Zadar deserves much more respect then you are actually giving them.
if for anything then for the fact they have the best coach out of all three croatian teams in the league.
they have extremely thin and bad frontcourt but their backcourt is the most balanced one in the league.
meaning most balanced between the first and second unit.
they don't have high class player but they 8-9 quality players at all three small positions.
after the arrival of Delaš they picked up the slack even if I was making fun of that move.
Zadar will finish the season in the top part of the league, with a positive record.

Joško Poljak Fan
11-07-2015, 03:42 PM
Zadar actualy has a lot of respect in my eyes, they were always my favourite non-Slovenian team from the area, however that doesn't change the fact they've been just plain awful in some parts of the game and season, I have troubles watching them and yesterday had no troubles turning of the broadcast before the halftime.
Individualy wise they're far from bad (but than again neither is Krka) but that doesn't translate adequately on court. Ramljak bros. and Barać aren't playing up to their abilities, Cousey is an "indian". Delaš had 25 points yesterday, he could turn around some things within a while, we'll see. I don't see them ending in the top 7 places unless some players seriously step up their game, even their home court isn't a guarantee for them to end in the upper half.
Yeah, I do shake my head in disbelief with Olimpija losing in Zadar last week and can't use an excuse that it's some referee's fault either, they just sucked inexplicably.

But than again I am not sure I've got all that many positive things to say for any team apart from Mega Vizura this year. And thinking again "one of the worst teams out there" almost applies to half of the league in my book so far. From that aspect I admit my words might have sounded unfair. Hoping that'll change when the season goes by and all these teams will leave some generaly better perception among the fans.

AmonRA
11-09-2015, 07:11 PM
I Am speechless
After Sofo, one more player will be "schilbovan":mad:
What kind of idiot you can be, to give up on Mekel, before you bring replacement, and you are going to play the most important games in EL, @Bayern and @Strasbourg
:triplefacepalm:

AmonRA
11-09-2015, 08:05 PM
standings after 9th round

AmonRa 42/63 66,7 %
Josko 33/60 55 %
MZT 17/28 60,7%
Exitche 11/21 52,3%

AmonRA
11-09-2015, 08:07 PM
10th round

Tajfun-Metalac 1
Krka- Sutjeska 1
Mega-Cibona 1
Crvena zvezda-Igokea 1
Cedevita-Olimpija 1
Budućnost-MZT 1
Zadar-Partizan 1

Joško Poljak Fan
11-13-2015, 02:32 PM
10th round

Tajfun-Metalac 1
Majstorović missing might be that difference here, even if Tajfun is still playing in few minute waves and those aren't enough against most teams in the league

Krka- Sutjeska 1
Krka is slowely getting there, as terrible they have been just a few weeks back, they are slowely but surely making noticable improvements in their game

Mega-Cibona 1
I'm not particulary sure on how Mega will react now that Samardzinski is gone. Janković and Nikolić are both decent big man, however Samardzinski definately contributed noticably in those 4 wins in a row. Cibona is pretty unpredictable, some players are able to explode and they're slowly getting that rotation needed for this level unlike at the start of the season

Crvena zvezda-Igokea 1
Igokea has been lately suffering from their Čapin dependence as far as creation goes, teams have realised that putting pressure on him decreases Igokeas performance by a lot. And this is Zvezda we're talking about, after a win against Bayern.

Cedevita-Olimpija 1
Olimpija might go 15/25 or 3/20 from 3point range during the same week. Cedevita has too big of an advantage under the rim for Olimpija to cope with, there are solutions for that, however those work in like 10% of the cases for Olimpija due to numerous factors.


Budućnost-MZT 1
I think MZT is actualy playing quite well considering their roster, however Budućnost is a more quality team and playing at home on top of that.

Zadar-Partizan 1
Partizan is getting back on their feet, however Zadar's defense should be the key here

AmonRA
11-14-2015, 08:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFGeX04wd5Q

slice me nice
11-14-2015, 08:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFGeX04wd5Q

Victoria Secret's Angels should wear Mega's jersey. That would be insanely sexy. Especially Gigi Hadid should give it a try...

AmonRA
11-15-2015, 06:50 PM
another great dunk in this round

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99j86yuiSfI

but big fail to lose game againts Igokea.. :facepalm:

AmonRA
11-17-2015, 12:59 PM
standings after 10th round

AmonRa 47/70 67,1 %
Josko 38/67 56,7 %
MZT 17/28 60,7%
Exitche 11/21 52,3%

AmonRA
11-17-2015, 01:00 PM
11th round


Partizan-Tajfun 1
OlimpijaMega Leks 1
Krka-Cibona 2
Igokea-Budućnost 1
Metalac-Cedevita 2
MZT-Zadar 1
Sutjeska-Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
11-17-2015, 02:00 PM
Good win by Igokea, didn't really realize what was going on with Zvezda, surely some shots from Radivojević dropped when it mattered the most, however I didn't expect Igokea to stay that close untill the last minutes to begin with.

Olimpija lost without a fired bullet against Cedevita. The quality difference at this moment is obvious, however I missed some fighting spirit.

Krka also played as if without much effort. They were seemingly on the rise for the past few games and now managed to showcase even worse performance than 2-3 weeks ago. Velić is forcing up both Katnić and Ivanov, to no result or even could be said the opposite.

Tajfun got their shot going once for a change when it mattered and that's about it. Nowadays it's impossible to play any bball if the opponent can let you shoot undisturbed long range shots and get away with it

Really good performance by Delaš yesterday against Partizan. Only saw few glimpses of it, however it does look like Ante was a great signing for them.

Watching Miami last season, I saw that Ceda's Walker can score in series, in particular from the range, however he did force a bit too much 1 on 1 and acted in a way as if he was the best player in a miserable team and can do whatever it pleases him. Cedevita's staff will have to guide him a bit imo. If he does play up to his best abilities, he should proove to be a great signing though.

Mika Hakinen
11-17-2015, 09:15 PM
What a kid!:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MrX269rQQE

ThePeraCar
11-17-2015, 10:03 PM
standings after 10th round

AmonRa 47/70 67,1 %
Josko 38/67 56,7 %
MZT 17/28 60,7%
Exitche 11/21 52,3%

so im the worst :rolleyes:

Joško Poljak Fan
11-18-2015, 02:14 PM
so im the worst :rolleyes:
You might had just a bad day, with 2-3 upsets going on... look at me, I've only missed 3 games and am barely over 50% :D I'd probably guess more if I'd bet on home teams almost exclusively.


Partizan-Tajfun 1
There should be a game when Tajfun will hit the offered free shots from the range, however I'm suspecting they'll start doing so at some point in Slovenian championship when I'll like that the least. Not a major Wilson fan, however Partizan is an improved team over the one we've witnessed in the first few rounds, I'll give them that.

Olimpija - Mega Leks 1
This is more of my wish that actual reality to be honest. They way Olimpija has played since Bilbao, Mega is an actual favorite. I just wish Mahkovic and Zagorac would come back and they'd finaly pick up their game as this is becoming a bit embarrasing.

Krka-Cibona 1
The only reason I'm betting on Krka is because Cibona isn't all that conviencing, which is an achievement on it's own. My guess is that Lalić and Ivanov don't want to drop this one, other than that both teams are so perfectly capable of losing this game I'd actualy prefer a 0 instead of 1 :)


Igokea-Budućnost 2
Unconstant vs. constant. That's why my bet is on Budućnost, they won the game they were expected to so far and with their experience I think they'll keep on going with that pace.

Metalac-Cedevita 2
Metalac lost a big deal with Majstorović missing, Cedevita playing more conviencing with every round.

MZT-Zadar 1
When two supposed "home" teams meet, bet on the home one, no big science in that one

Sutjeska-Crvena zvezda 2
I don't think Zvezda will afford many consecutive losses in ABA, in particular not against the bottom teams.

ThePeraCar
11-18-2015, 05:03 PM
Partizan-Tajfun 1
Olimpija-Mega Leks 1
Krka-Cibona 1
Igokea-Budućnost 2
Metalac-Cedevita 1
MZT-Zadar 1
Sutjeska-Crvena zvezda 2

AmonRA
11-23-2015, 10:56 PM
standings after 11th round

AmonRa 50/77 65 %
Josko 43/75 57,3 %
MZT 17/28 60,7%
ThePeraCar 16/28 57,1%

AmonRA
11-23-2015, 10:57 PM
12th round
Olimpija-Metalac 1
Mega-Krka 1
Tajfun-MZT 1
Cedevita-Partizan 1
Budućnost-Sutjeska 1
Zadar-Igokea 1
Crvena zvezda-Cibona 1

ThePeraCar
11-23-2015, 10:57 PM
im soon to be better than jpf xD

Joško Poljak Fan
11-25-2015, 01:37 PM
I keep telling you beating me in these predictions is not exactly something to be proud of :)

Budućnost signed Doron Lamb. If he'll be 100% in the game mental wise, he could eventualy evolve into one of the better players in europe imo. Great signing.

ThePeraCar
11-26-2015, 11:12 AM
12th round
Olimpija-Metalac 1
Mega-Krka 1
Tajfun-MZT 1
Cedevita-Partizan 1
Budućnost-Sutjeska 1
Zadar-Igokea 2
Crvena zvezda-Cibona 1

Joško Poljak Fan
11-26-2015, 05:52 PM
Olimpija-Metalac 1
Mega-Krka 1
Tajfun-MZT 1
Cedevita-Partizan 1
Budućnost-Sutjeska 1
Zadar-Igokea 1
Crvena zvezda-Cibona 1

AmonRA
11-29-2015, 10:10 AM
I keep telling you beating me in these predictions is not exactly something to be proud of :)

Budućnost signed Doron Lamb. If he'll be 100% in the game mental wise, he could eventualy evolve into one of the better players in europe imo. Great signing.

Also, Pavicevic replaced Jovovic on the bench..

By the way, what is going on with Wright"?
he isnt injured, but he doesnt play.. he is going from Olimpija or what?

CoachZ
11-29-2015, 10:49 AM
I keep telling you beating me in these predictions is not exactly something to be proud of :)

Budućnost signed Doron Lamb. If he'll be 100% in the game mental wise, he could eventualy evolve into one of the better players in europe imo. Great signing.

He is another Oak Hill Academy prospect, and those guys don't pick scrubs to give scholarships to their basketball factory. Just look at the guys who attended Oak Hill Academy before going to NCAA:

Quinn Cook currently plays for the Cleveland Cavaliers
Cory Alexander,[3] played at the University of Virginia and in the NBA
Carmelo Anthony,[3] played at Syracuse University; drafted third in 2003; 2003 NCAA Champion; NBA All-Star; attended Towson Catholic High School in Baltimore before transferring.
William Avery,[3] former Duke University point guard, and former NBA player for the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Michael Beasley, transferred to Notre Dame Prep, 2007 McDonald's All American Game MVP, played at Kansas State University. Selected second in the 2008 NBA draft.
Mark Blount, played at the University of Pittsburgh
Alex Blackwell,[3] played at Monmouth College and briefly in the NBA
Steve Blake, played at the University of Maryland, currently plays for the Detroit Pistons in the NBA[4]
Junior Burrough,[3] played at the University of Virginia and briefly for the Boston Celtics in the NBA
Ben Davis,[3] played at the University of Arizona and briefly in the NBA
Kevin Durant, (transferred to Montrose Christian School before graduating) played at The University of Texas; second pick in 2007 NBA draft; MVP of the 2006 McDonald's All American Game; NBA Rookie of the Year; NBA All-Star; NBA MVP [5]
Stephen Jackson,[3] NBA player for the San Antonio Spurs
Brandon Jennings, NBA player for the Detroit Pistons, selected 10th in the 2009 NBA Draft. Played for Italy's Lottomatica Roma.[6]
Doron Lamb, McDonald's All-American; played at University of Kentucky; player for the Milwaukee Bucks and the Orlando Magic.
Ty Lawson, player on the Houston Rockets, played at the University of North Carolina. Went to Bishop McNamara High School before going to Oak Hill Academy.
Jeff McInnis, played at the University of North Carolina; former player on Portland Trail Blazers, Los Angeles Clippers, and the New Jersey Nets.[7]
Ben McLemore, plays for Sacramento Kings, selected 7th overall in NBA Draft
Ron Mercer,[3] played at the University of Kentucky from 1995–1997; played for 7 NBA teams
Rajon Rondo, played at the University of Kentucky; Drafted 21st in the NBA draft, Won the 2008 NBA championship; an All-Star in 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013. Currently plays for the Sacramento Kings.[8]
Josh Smith, drafted first round, 17th pick by the Atlanta Hawks in the 2004 NBA Draft. Currently plays for the Los Angeles Clippers.[9]
Jerry Stackhouse, played at the University of North Carolina. NBA player with the Philadelphia 76ers, Detroit Pistons, Washington Wizards, Dallas Mavericks, Brooklyn Nets, and Milwaukee Bucks.[10]
Rod Strickland, played at DePaul University and drafted 19th in the 1988 NBA Draft. 17 seasons in the NBA for the Portland Trail Blazers and the Washington Wizards.[11]
Nolan Smith, played for Duke University, in the NBA for the Portland Trail Blazers. Nolan is the son of Derek Smith, who starred at the University of Louisville.
Marcus Williams, 2004 National Championship with UConn. Played with the New Jersey Nets, Golden State Warriors, the Memphis Grizzlies and in Spain.

Joško Poljak Fan
11-29-2015, 12:58 PM
Also, Pavicevic replaced Jovovic on the bench..

By the way, what is going on with Wright"?
he isnt injured, but he doesnt play.. he is going from Olimpija or what?
He was injured, could play yesterday with a block, however the coach decided to give him a rest for one more game as he hasn't practiced for a while now. Olimpija got offers from Avelino and one Turkish club for him and as ussual the media is creating a panic, however the buyout was too low to let him go. Considering this team is one athletic PF/C away from playing significantly better and Rupnik + Mesiček can hold their own on PG as seen in the last 2-3 games, It's not out of the question he wouldn't leave after Olimpija finishes with eurocup.


Oak Hill is the no.1 bball academy out there! I've noticed Lamb in the summer league with Orlando about 2 years ago, together with Afflalo, Harris, O'Quinn and he looked decent there, had some incredible sparks as far as I remember and those weren't all about his shooting either and I figured he could make a decent backup SG if given a chance. Looking at his carer path I'd say that probably some injury had to get in between, while needless to say the competition at SG's is incredibly tough in the NBA, it's hard to really fulfill potential while sitting on the NBA bench.
Budućnost imo did a good move there as they could use some of his shooting.

AmonRA
11-30-2015, 10:08 PM
@JPF
thanks for explanation :)


standings after 12th round

AmonRa 57/84 67,8%
Josko 50/82 61 %
ThePeraCar 22/35 62,8%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
11-30-2015, 10:11 PM
13th round

Sutjeska-Zadar 2
Igokea-Tajfun 1
Partizan-Olimpija 1
Cibona-Budućnost 2
Metalac-Mega 2
MZT -Cedevita 2
Krka-Crvena zvezda 2

ThePeraCar
12-01-2015, 12:33 AM
Sutjeska-Zadar 1
Igokea-Tajfun 1
Partizan-Olimpija 2
Cibona-Budućnost 2
Metalac-Mega 1
MZT -Cedevita 2
Krka-Crvena zvezda 2

ThePeraCar
12-03-2015, 12:01 PM
now im better than mzt and jpf :cool:

Joško Poljak Fan
12-04-2015, 01:48 PM
Sutjeska-Zadar 1
Igokea-Tajfun 1
Partizan-Olimpija 2
Cibona-Budućnost 2
Metalac-Mega 2
MZT -Cedevita 2
Krka-Crvena zvezda 2

Mika Hakinen
12-04-2015, 02:29 PM
Good signing for best kindergarden in Europe! Igor Obradovic made some mistakes, Vita not playing in Georgian league, only in VTB league in this season.

http://www.eurobasket.com/Georgia/news/429986/Goga-Bitadze-(ex-Vita-Tbilisi)-joins-Mega-Leks

AmonRA
12-08-2015, 07:06 PM
standings after 13th round

AmonRa 61/91 67%
Josko 55/89 61,8 %
ThePeraCar 27/42 64,3%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
12-08-2015, 07:07 PM
14th round

Sutjeska-Tajfun 1
MZT-Olimpija 2
KrkaBudućnost 2
Cibona-Zadar 1
Igokea-Cedevita 2
Partizan-Metalac 1
Mega-Crvena zvezda 2

ThePeraCar
12-08-2015, 07:25 PM
Sutjeska-Tajfun 1
MZT-Olimpija 2
Krka-Budućnost 2
Cibona-Zadar 1
Igokea-Cedevita 2
Partizan-Metalac 2
Mega-Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
12-12-2015, 05:06 PM
Sutjeska-Tajfun too late...
MZT-Olimpija 2
Krka-Budućnost 1
Cibona-Zadar 1
Igokea-Cedevita 1
Partizan-Metalac 1
Mega-Crvena zvezda 2

Tajfun is 7/7, they're hosting Cibona in the next round and visiting their regular customer in Krka the one after. Now that they are out of the fiba cup they'll have more time to prepare for each game, am interested to see if that's a noticable effect or not.

AmonRA
12-14-2015, 11:21 PM
standings after 14h round

AmonRa 66/98 67,3%
Josko 58/95 61,1 %
ThePeraCar 31/49 63,3%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
12-14-2015, 11:23 PM
15th round
Metala- MZT 1
Partizan-Mega 2
Tajfun-Cibona 2
Zadar-Krka 1
Olimpija-Igokea 1
Cedevita-Sutjeska 1
Budućnost-Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
12-16-2015, 02:49 PM
Metalac - MZT 1
Partizan - Mega 1
Tajfun - Cibona 1
Zadar - Krka 1
Olimpija - Igokea 1
Cedevita - Sutjeska 1
Budućnost - Crvena zvezda 1

ThePeraCar
12-16-2015, 03:02 PM
Metalac - MZT 1
Partizan - Mega 1
Tajfun - Cibona 1
Zadar - Krka 1
Olimpija - Igokea 1
Cedevita - Sutjeska 1
Budućnost - Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
12-19-2015, 05:27 PM
Krka signed Matic Rebec (180cm, PG, 1995), wanted to have him in Olimpija. The kid is a little devil. A lot about his contribution depends on the defensive end and on the ammount of posting up the opponents try to run over him, however offensively wise he has the potential to completely turn around Krka's static game

AmonRA
12-21-2015, 10:10 PM
standings after 15th round

AmonRa 70/105 66,7%
Josko 61/102 59,8 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
12-21-2015, 10:12 PM
don't forget that next round start tomorrow

16th round
Cibona-Cedevita 2
Krka-Tajfun 1
MZT -Partizan 1
Sutjeska-Olimpija 2
Igokea-Metalac 1
Crvena zvezda-Zadar 1
Mega-Budućnost 2

Joško Poljak Fan
12-21-2015, 10:45 PM
Cibona-Cedevita 2
Krka-Tajfun 2
MZT -Partizan 1
Sutjeska-Olimpija 2
Igokea-Metalac 1
Crvena zvezda-Zadar 1
Mega-Budućnost 2

AmonRA
12-24-2015, 08:12 PM
standings after 16th round

AmonRa 75/112 67%
Josko 65/109 59,6 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
12-24-2015, 08:14 PM
17th round
Metalac-Sutjeska 1
Cedevita-Krka 1
Tajfun-Crvena zvezda 2
Partizan-Igokea 1
MZT-Mega 2
Zadar-Budućnost 2
Olimpija-Cibona 2

AmonRA
12-25-2015, 01:41 PM
merry christmas to guys who celebrating today :)

Joško Poljak Fan
12-26-2015, 05:53 PM
thx man ;)

Metalac-Sutjeska too late :P
Cedevita-Krka 2 ... I don't think Cedevita scouted Rebec, while in case he goes crazy that's a whole buckload of troubles for them
Tajfun-Crvena zvezda 2
Partizan-Igokea 1
MZT-Mega 1
Zadar-Budućnost 2
Olimpija-Cibona 1

AmonRA
12-28-2015, 04:59 PM
Zvezda made several changes in this transfer deadline for EL..
Mwill and Rayan= OUT
Micic and Kinsey=IN

so now roster looks like this
http://s24.postimg.org/h7wczyx91/1111.png

Mika Hakinen
12-28-2015, 07:01 PM
what a fixed shit in skopje!:mad:

end of the game
end of 4. quarter
40:00 76 : 77 20 Ivanovic N. assist
40:00 76 : 77 34 Nikolic D. made 3 points (pos. 3)
40:00 19 Stojanovski D. made free throw 76 : 74
40:00 19 Stojanovski D. made free throw 75 : 74
40:00 74 : 74 33 Simeunovic D. foul on 19 Stojanovski D.
40:00 time out 74 : 74
40:00 74 : 74 34 Nikolic D. made free throw
40:00 74 : 73 34 Nikolic D. made free throw
40:00 55 Lukovic U. replaces 22 Mijatovic D. 74 : 72
40:00 19 Stojanovski D. replaces 7 Markovski G. 74 : 72
40:00 74 : 72 11 Veljkovic M. replaces 8 Djokovic R.
40:00 33 Lukovic M. foul on 34 Nikolic D. 74 : 72 WHY FOUL??:mad: CLEAR FIXED GAME AFTER THIS FOUL
40:00 22 Mijatovic D. replaces 55 Lukovic U. 74 : 72
40:00 7 Markovski G. replaces 19 Stojanovski D. 74 : 72
40:00 74 : 72 8 Djokovic R. replaces 11 Veljkovic M.
40:00 74 : 72 time out
40:00 13 Drenovac D. made free throw 74 : 72
40:00 13 Drenovac D. missed free throw 73 : 72
40:00 73 : 72 4 Simic S. replaces 10 Jaramaz O.
40:00 73 : 72 10 Jaramaz O. foul on 13 Drenovac D.
40:00 33 Lukovic M. offensive rebound 73 : 72
40:00 55 Lukovic U. missed free throw 73 : 72
40:00 55 Lukovic U. missed free throw 73 : 72
40:00 73 : 72 11 Veljkovic M. replaces 24 Kaba A.
40:00 73 : 72 24 Kaba A. foul on 55 Lukovic U.
40:00 time out 73 : 72
40:00 73 : 72 33 Simeunovic D. made 2 points (pos. 5)
40:00 73 : 70 33 Simeunovic D. defensive rebound
40:00 19 Stojanovski D. missed 3 points (pos. 2) 73 : 70
minute: 40
39:00 55 Lukovic U. defensive rebound 73 : 70
39:00 73 : 70 34 Nikolic D. missed 3 points (pos. 3)
39:00 73 : 70 34 Nikolic D. defensive rebound
39:00 33 Lukovic M. missed free throw 73 : 70
39:00 33 Lukovic M. missed free throw 73 : 70

AmonRA
12-30-2015, 11:15 PM
standings after 17th round

AmonRa 87/119 73,1%
Josko 67/115 58,3 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
12-30-2015, 11:16 PM
18th round

Mega-Zadar 1
Krka-Olimpija 1
Budućnost -Tajfun 1
Igokea-MZT 1
Cibona-Metalac 1
Crvena zvezda-Cedevita 1
Sutjeska-Partizan 1

AmonRA
12-30-2015, 11:17 PM
all the best in new year guys! :)

Joško Poljak Fan
12-31-2015, 10:52 AM
@Mika, haven't watched the game, but a friend of mine that did partialy agrees Mega was pushed in that game. In ABA however that's not all that unussual, ABA has some of the best european referees however it's hard to realise if they're just taking it easy here while doing a much better job in other european competitions or if they've got some agenda behind them. The level of refereeing of those same referees is drasticaly better at european competitions.

Olimpija f.e. yesterday got called a rebounding foul after their offense 1 second to go with 67-67 :cool: discussions are was there a foul or wasn't there, should those be whistled in the last second or not etc. however it all fades away after a season...

Of course happy new year everyone!


Mega-Zadar 1
Krka-Olimpija 1
Budućnost -Tajfun 1
Igokea-MZT 2
Cibona-Metalac 1
Crvena zvezda-Cedevita 1
Sutjeska-Partizan 2

AmonRA
01-04-2016, 10:04 PM
standings after 18th round

AmonRa 91/126 72,2%
Josko 71/122 58,2 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
01-04-2016, 10:06 PM
19th round

Tajfun-Zadar 1
Metalac-Krka 1
Cedevita-Budućnost 1
Partizan-Cibona 1
MZT-Sutjeska 1
Olimpija-Crvena zvezda 2
Igokea-Mega Leks 2

AmonRA
01-11-2016, 09:49 PM
standings after 19th round

AmonRa 94/133 70,7%
Josko 71/122 58,2 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
01-11-2016, 09:50 PM
20th round

Sutjeska-Igokea 1
Cibona-MZT 1
Krka-Partizan 1
Budućnost-Olimpija 1
Mega-Tajfun 1
Zadar-Cedevita 2
Crvena zvezda-Metalac 1

AmonRA
01-11-2016, 09:54 PM
unbelievable table, only one win separates teams from 5th to 14th place

http://s8.postimg.org/4rfe078xh/jhguykg.png

Joško Poljak Fan
01-12-2016, 10:20 AM
One of those rounds again. Mega predictably without 2 inside players while Miško is doing some favours, than Metalac with 13/20 FT's and only 6 points from game in the 4th quarter while that wasn't a consequence of some deliberate fouling at the end of the game and clear cut foul on Žižić being ignored when it really mattered, eventhough Cibona lost the game by themselves. The only game I've seen this round and haven't rolled my eyes was Olimpija - Zvezda, honestly if Zvezda would get the treatment some other teams tend to receive in Ljubljana it would be easily +30 margin or more considering the quality gap they have.
Referees are by far worst part of this league and this is going on for ages now.

Sutjeska-Igokea 1
Cibona-MZT 1
Krka-Partizan 2
Budućnost-Olimpija 1
Mega-Tajfun 1
Zadar-Cedevita 2
Crvena zvezda-Metalac 1

serbianhoops
01-16-2016, 06:51 PM
Partizan's PG Aleksandar Cvetkovic ('93) had perhaps the best half of his career against Krka, with 16 Pts on 6/6 2FG, 4/4 FT (he only missed a 3-pointer), 3 Ast, 5 Stl and 6 Drawn Fouls in 14 Min on the court for a valuation of 32.

AmonRA
01-19-2016, 12:32 PM
standings after 20th round

AmonRa 98/140 70%
Josko 76/129 58,9 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
01-19-2016, 12:34 PM
21st round

Metalac-Budućnost 2
MZT -Krka 1
Olimpija-Zadar 1
Igokea-Cibona 1
Sutjeska-Mega 1
Cedevita-Tajfun 1
Partizan-Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
01-23-2016, 11:07 AM
Metalac-Budućnost 2
MZT -Krka 1
Olimpija-Zadar 1
Igokea-Cibona 2
Sutjeska-Mega 1
Cedevita-Tajfun 1
Partizan-Crvena zvezda 2

serbianhoops
01-24-2016, 01:53 AM
6'3" PG Andrej Magdevski ('96) has moved on loan from Partizan to OKK Belgrade until the end of the season.

AmonRA
01-25-2016, 11:15 PM
standings after 21th round

AmonRa 103/147 70,1%
Josko 80/136 58,8 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
01-25-2016, 11:16 PM
22th round
Zadar-Metalac 1
Krka-Igokea 1
Budućnost-Partizan 1
Olimpija-Tajfun 1
Cibona-Sutjeska 1
Mega-Cedevita 2
Crvena zvezda-MZT 1

Joško Poljak Fan
01-27-2016, 02:19 PM
22th round
Zadar-Metalac 1
Krka-Igokea 1
Budućnost-Partizan 1
Olimpija-Tajfun 1
Cibona-Sutjeska 1
Mega-Cedevita 2
Crvena zvezda-MZT 1

What happened in Zvezda -Partizan game? I've seen Partizan is playing noticably better against Krka, but this one surprised me nevertheless.

CoachZ
01-27-2016, 06:34 PM
22th round
Zadar-Metalac 1
Krka-Igokea 1
Budućnost-Partizan 1
Olimpija-Tajfun 1
Cibona-Sutjeska 1
Mega-Cedevita 2
Crvena zvezda-MZT 1

What happened in Zvezda -Partizan game? I've seen Partizan is playing noticably better against Krka, but this one surprised me nevertheless.

Zvezda played with Zero energy and terrible defense. First time after a number of games. They looked tired and slow. They also shot something like 3/23 for 3pt, while Partizan was hitting everything from downtown. Despite that we had a chance to win it, but we couldn't put together more than 2-3 minutes of solid defense together, and Partizan used that.

Well this loss means that Cedevita is 99% 2nd, unless they have some stupid collapse in ABA, and therefore to win it Zvezda will have to win it on the road without homecourt advantage vs Cedevita and Buducnost.

HashDump
01-30-2016, 04:36 PM
I think there is a chance for Zvezda to get A licence. IMO in new format of Euroleague all 16 teams will be with A licence or maybe 15 and last place will come from Eurocup.

AmonRA
02-01-2016, 09:42 PM
standings after 22nd round

AmonRa 109/154 70,8%
Josko 86/143 60,1 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
02-01-2016, 09:43 PM
23rd round

Sutjeska-Krka 1
Metalac-Tajfun 1
Partizan-Zadar 1
Igokea-Crvena zvezda 2
Cibona-Mega Leks 1
Olimpija-Cedevita 2
MZT-Budućnost 1

Joško Poljak Fan
02-05-2016, 12:36 PM
Sutjeska-Krka 2
Metalac-Tajfun 1
Partizan-Zadar 1
Igokea-Crvena zvezda 2
Cibona-Mega Leks 2
Olimpija-Cedevita 1
MZT-Budućnost 2

BiHBasket
02-07-2016, 08:05 PM
Cedevita with only 10 players in the roster against a talented Union Olimpija team, just a couple of days ago Union Olimpija won a game against Maccabi Tel Aviv in the Eurocup, it should be a good game.

Live stats:
http://live.aba-liga.com/aba/live.php?id=uni_ced

AmonRA
02-10-2016, 01:36 PM
standings after 23rd round

standings after 22nd round

AmonRa 114/161 70,8%
Josko 91/150 60,67 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
02-10-2016, 01:37 PM
24th round

Zadar-MZT 1
Tajfun- Partizan 2
Mega-Olimpija 1
Cibona-Krka 1
Crvena zvezda-Sutjeska 1
Cedevita-Metalac 1
Budućnost-Igokea 1

Joško Poljak Fan
02-12-2016, 11:15 AM
Zadar-MZT 1
Tajfun- Partizan 2
Mega-Olimpija 1
Cibona-Krka 2
Crvena zvezda-Sutjeska 1
Cedevita-Metalac 1
Budućnost-Igokea 1

AmonRA
02-16-2016, 07:34 PM
standings after 24th round

AmonRa 120/168 71,4%
Josko 96/157 61,1 %
ThePeraCar 33/56 59%
MZT 17/28 60,7%

AmonRA
02-22-2016, 06:20 PM
National Cup winners:

Serbia-Mega
Croatia-Cedevita
Slovenia-Krka
Montenegro-Buducnost
Macedonia-MZT
B&H-Igokea

AmonRA
02-22-2016, 06:25 PM
25th round

MZT-Tajfun 1
Metalac- Olimpija 1
Krka-Mega Leks 2
Sutjeska-Budućnost 2
Igokea-Zadar 1
Cibona-Crvena zvezda 2
Partizan-Cedevita 2

AmonRA
03-15-2016, 08:43 PM
super quality 1/2 in both games..
Mega leads 1-0, and play at home next game against Buducnost

Zvezda returns from death against Cedevita, 1-0 for Zvezda, next game in Zagreb


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_dV0fJNqJI

Obina
03-15-2016, 09:04 PM
I am really satisfied with our foreigners this season...Miller, Kinsey and Zirbes are real difference makers.

CoachZ
03-19-2016, 10:06 PM
The Kindergarden wins it again!!!!!! What a group of kids and Milojevic did a fantastic job.

Mega Leks 76 - Buducnost 75

Even without injured key players Mega plays their heart out and wins the Semi Final of the Playoffs against No. 1 seed Buducnost! They await the winner of Zvezda - Cedevita series. These guys are already champs in my eyes, winning the Cup and now playing like this with average age of the team of less than 19,1 years old average is breaking out!!!

Obina
03-19-2016, 11:16 PM
Luwawu again. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_7ZCGsjoWM

CoachZ
03-20-2016, 11:56 AM
Kamnikar again assigns Damir Javor as the ref for Cedevita - Zvezda game, even though he has been noted for exclusion several times by Zvezda and has been known to butcher us, again and again. This is pretty ridiculous...

Joško Poljak Fan
03-22-2016, 12:22 PM
I've got a simmilar 10 season long feeling about Dožai refereeing Olimpija.

Congrats Mega! Well deserved. Incredibly well coached team, I've got a feeling Milojević will get far in his career.

CoachZ
03-22-2016, 12:48 PM
I've got a simmilar 10 season long feeling about Dožai refereeing Olimpija.

Congrats Mega! Well deserved. Incredibly well coached team, I've got a feeling Milojević will get far in his career.

One of the main issue is that Javor is the 15th ranked ref by ABA League rankings, how is it possible that he can be chosen to ref games of this importance, just kills me :D

AmonRA
05-02-2016, 08:30 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chelc5hU0AEieyo.jpg
:D

Obina
05-02-2016, 08:52 PM
Zvezda is ABA league champion again ! :cool:

Stefan Jovic is MVP but for me there is not doubt that real MVP is:

8814

:)

Joško Poljak Fan
05-07-2016, 09:11 PM
Congrats Zvezda, well deserved.

AmonRA
07-08-2016, 06:00 PM
Congrats Zvezda, well deserved.

thanks :D

by the way as it seems, ABA again will have 14 teams.. Olimpija + FMP will be added