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AmonRA
06-26-2014, 01:59 PM
@Josko
What Olimpija is planning for next season(about budget, players etc)?
Gailius already gone?
And what about Krka also?

Joško Poljak Fan
06-26-2014, 02:52 PM
I've moved the post into a new thread, hope you don't mind :)

Olimpija will supposedly pay out the loan they've got someday untill the end of this year. That would be quite a big deal as majority never saw that coming 4-5 years ago, their current debts are supposedly in the range of 1 million to 1,3 million € which is far from the dissastrous 5M € from the past, but nevertheless Olimpija will further decrease it's players spendings to try to minimize those debts further. Luckily for them player prices are decreasing through the continent as well, so quality wise team hasn't yet suffered as much as it would 10 years ago.
Situation is grimm though, Pivovarna Union, bought by Laško is on their knees for a while now, city of Ljubljana stopped sponsoring majority of sport teams as they've reportedly got issues with liquidity and sport legislations remains terrible, which I guess is the same as in Serbia. Enableing individuals to take over the clubs might work out better than the system right now.


Judging by what's going on so far, Olimpija should look something like this
PG: Marinelli (95'), Rupnik (93')
SG: ? , Hrovat (196cm, 94', from Helios)
SF: Giedraitis* (196cm, 92', Šiauliai), Brodnik (92'), Mahkovic* (201cm, 88', Helios)
PF: Murič (90'), ?= stretch 4, it's obvious from the plane we need it
C: Stephenson* (87'), Vučetić (207cm, 96', UO junior team)

*not signed yet, some of them unnoficial rumours/desires etc.

Pretty young and unexperienced team, so basicaly I expect the likes of Marinelli, Hrovat, Giedratis being pushed forward.

Omić already became the biggest "car" (for any non slavic reader; car=tsar, not an automobile :) ) the minute he signed for Olimpija and I don't think Pipan will cry a single tear if he would be sold
Salin has one more year left in his contract, but judging from various rumours etc. I think both sides will agree to part ways, he isn't a bad player but too onedimensional to keep him as the go-to SG, he'd work out better in some stronger teams imo
Gailius is already gone, Slo doctors said he'd need a surgery, Lithuanian ones disagreed, calculating it through he was way to expensive to keep in case he would miss 20-30% of the games as he did this season.
Unlike majority I would actualy keep Stephenson, with a stretch PF and SF, he could actualy do more than people attribute him, works a lot on improving his FT as well.

Olimpija is currently blocked by BAT due to Filipovski (had salary 15k € per month :rolleyes: ) so untill they solve that I don't think any new players will be announced.

From the above, you can conclude Olimpija won't be fighting for the top positions in ABA next season :)

Joško Poljak Fan
06-26-2014, 03:13 PM
As for Krka, loads of guys from previous season will be gone Buljan, Pavič, Bečirovič, Murič, Klobučar, Booker.
But on the bright side they're doing well financialy, although they could really use a new arena (link, reportedly should be 5k-6k seater (http://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kosarka/foto-novomeska-dvorana-portoval-se-na-ogled-postavi/261284) ), but that's another saga I don't follow all that much really.

PG: Armstead (89'), Rojc (93')
SG: Kastrati (94'), Mulalič (88', from Hopsi)
SF: ?, Lapornik (88')
PF: Hukić (79'), Wangmeme (89', from Hopsi)
C: ?, Bolčina (94')

Those are the guys currently under the contract, while I am not too familiar with rumours. Wangmeme was doing okay in Slovenian league, but isn't any sort of a potential superstar, as for Mulalič I honestly have no idea why they signed him. I expect Domen Bratož (PG, 93', last season in Slovan) to return while I've read somewhere they plan on adding their home youth team's products as Zupan, Ritlop, Zatežič to the team - they're all 95, 96 born, decent but neither of them has some skyhigh potential and are all probably 1-2 years away from making some impact at the ABA level.
Armstead got injured at the begining of the last season and was one of the reasons Krka underperformed in ABA (to be honest in my opinion they had a clear 4th best roster in the league afer all those departures in Cibona), he could surprise.

I haven't heard anything about any changes within their budget, but nevertheless with the upper team, they either should be able to add 2 good players or they are also making a cut in the budget as the above team must be somewhere in the 400k-500k salary range at top in case they haven't screwed up overpaying any of their youngsters.

Same as with Olimpija, I don't expect Krka to end up in the upper half, as obviously both teams failed to do so on some past occasions with stronger teams. I'll be happy if Bolčina, Kastrati and Bratož make it through and get some good playing time.

AmonRA
06-26-2014, 05:18 PM
And I am searching where is my post :D

Thanks for detailed analysis(maybe more detailed than I asked) :p
It's good that you are cleaning your debts, especially if you again want to play in EL(It has become one of the conditions)
By the way, that roster up, looks pretty thin.. And I think that then you will not play in EC, or I Am wrong?

And for Krka, it seems lot better situation, than with Olimpija, but still far from the top of the league..
Dzikic is still staying there?

Joško Poljak Fan
06-26-2014, 09:17 PM
hehe, my friends are used to being carefull about which questions to ask as some of them ussualy become way too long, basketball and especialy regarding Olimpija is one of those questions :) I just can't keep it simple :)

Olimpija got an invite for eurocup, that should be confirmed later on. That roster is very thin, that's true, I expect them to suffer especialy at the begining of ABA, but Marinelli, Hrovat are pretty talented, Vučetić a bit soft for my taste but nevertheless the same, Rupnik and Brodnik will eventualy develop into usefull rotation players and if given responsibility early towards the end of the year they should improve to some extent. As long as the debt gets lowered further I am happy, as qualifying to top16 teams in eurocup or ending up 5th in ABA isn't really something I'd really be excited about. At least not as much as some young kids being succesfully pushed forward.

Same goes with Krka. Bolčina is suffering from unnecesary fouls, avoiding those he is a decent talent, Kastrati, Bratož and Armstead should surprise, while I am not too enthusiastic about both newcomers from Hopsi, to my feeling their budget should have noticable reserves for those 2-3 additional players. Džikić is staying in Krka and since I consider him being one of the better coaches in the league I'd say they could surprise in a positive manner unlike the last season.


I heard Radonjić is staying with Zvezda, anyone on the way out? At least one of the PF's has to, Mitrović imo should be pushed to the no.1 PF as far as I've seen him play before the injury.

AmonRA
06-27-2014, 09:03 AM
I heard Radonjić is staying with Zvezda, anyone on the way out? At least one of the PF's has to, Mitrović imo should be pushed to the no.1 PF as far as I've seen him play before the injury.
I pissed off, man:mad:
today is board meeting, but it's expected that he is staying...
And as always there is no any harmony in the board, so Andrej(brother of Vucic) will leave Zvezda with his people, which means 3 time less money, so thats the reason why should fackin Radonjic will stay on the bench.. And that also indicates that all the players that we wanted to leave, will stay, like stupid Simonovic, Katic etc...

Still is unknown destiny of players, but there is expected that Jaka, Mitrovic and Bobi will stay, Nelson almost sure will go, Jenkins?!..
All in all, I expect budget around 1,5m(in best case), and another partizan domination in ABA, and especially in the Serbian league...

Joško Poljak Fan
06-27-2014, 12:06 PM
I feel you. I am not too high on Radonjić either. I know we won't get along with the Schilb issue, but even after his departure Zvezda should be dominating - no diss to Partizan as they were a really strong team with tons of bad luck last season, but anyway.

AmonRA
06-27-2014, 03:32 PM
We will see today, what is final decision about radonjic and other stuffs, but in Zvezda it only can go from bad to worse..


Anyway, about Mega...
They will have tremendously younger team than last year, and you know that last year they was the youngest in all Europe :D
Miljenovic and Jokic are staying, but rest of the crew are going..
Velckovic in Trabzon, Varda(retirement I think), and Micic and Dungubic will also leave Mega(still unknown where)..

Joško Poljak Fan
06-28-2014, 01:18 PM
Well, Mega surprised a lot of people last year, thanks to some players out of their talent class (3 drafted). But going even younger would be dangerous in my opinion. They won't manage to repeat those performances year after year unless they manage to bring over all of Serbia's talent in youth cathegories.

I'm reading about Budućnost decreasing their budget by 30 %.

Budućnost, Zvezda, Igokea and Partizan decreasing their budget, Olimpija and Krka the same along with being (presumably) younger than ussual, Mega going even younger and Cibona promising the same... ABA seems to be hitting a quality low-bottom of the decade if all this comes true.

AmonRA
07-01-2014, 12:47 PM
Maga`s goal is to be around 10th place, or bottom line, to avoid relegation..
And I think that despite the fact that they will go with even younger team, they will reach that goal, especially because all league will go down with quality.
It would look something like this
miljenovic, jaramaz
avramovic, reljic
krstic, zagorac,
marelja,bojic
jokic,?
miljenovic, krstic and jokic will have huge minutes and be the leaders of this team, and they definitely have quality for this league..
jaramaz and zagorac are super quality kids, also there will be bojic, who was mvp of serbian league last year..
So, definitely we can not expect good results like last year, but they will still be team with "mega" talent :D

AmonRA
07-01-2014, 01:31 PM
From this year there will finally be PO..
1/2 best of 3, final best of 5... Imo that is to much to play final in best of 5, especially, because both finalist will go in EL..
Alaso Cibona and Igokea are banned for 4 years from ULEB.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-03-2014, 01:17 PM
I am in favour of punishing the clubs that can't make up their mind and cost some other club of participation, as Igokea did in the last two years and Cibona now. But 4 years? that's a lot. Especialy considering the circumstances Cibona is in, I think this decision wasn't exactly fair one.

Picek
07-03-2014, 02:14 PM
I am in favour of punishing the clubs that can't make up their mind and cost some other club of participation, as Igokea did in the last two years and Cibona now. But 4 years? that's a lot. Especialy considering the circumstances Cibona is in, I think this decision wasn't exactly fair one.lack of quality and good results of some other clubs cost them participation..
and not someone being indecisive..
besides, ULEB gave deadlines for a reason.
this news wasn't published by anyone in Croatia so far..
but we have other problems currently anyway..

Joško Poljak Fan
07-08-2014, 12:01 PM
wtf? Cibona's debt supposedly again at 13 million €?! Some reports are contradicting, but how on earth is that possible. I know Cibona signed some players with a hefty pricetag for these regions, but that's a lot even when having those few players in mind.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-15-2014, 12:37 PM
Krka signed Joksimovič (ex-Olimpija) and resigned Chris Booker. They'll add one more player within the next days and than their roster will be complete.
Noticably cheaper and noticably weaker team compared to the last season.

AmonRA
07-15-2014, 03:13 PM
Yes, but say one team which would be stronger than last year? ;)
Maybe only Cedevita, but they also stay without two best players(Smith and Nurkic)

Joško Poljak Fan
07-23-2014, 01:19 PM
https://twitter.com/mmario_mikulic/status/491916526589853696/photo/1
...what's shocking is that Cibona owes money to Dubravko Zemljić, Davor Marcelić, Mate Skelin or Davor Pejčinović. that's like previous century.

AmonRA
07-24-2014, 12:11 PM
Zemljic Dubravko season 97/98 :eek:

Joško Poljak Fan
07-27-2014, 09:34 AM
Radnički in troubles as well.
If Cibona would be banned from ABA and Radnički would back off, than ABA either needs 2 more wild cards or would probably shrink to 12 teams. Even by shrinkin to 12 teams only the league would still be a bit short on €. On the other side I'm suspecting that clubs weren't exactly waiting in the line begging to join ABA as Lisac portrayed at one point and even 2 wild cards aren't really plausible either. This should be interesting.

Milos.Djuric
07-27-2014, 11:44 AM
I am in favour of punishing the clubs that can't make up their mind and cost some other club of participation, as Igokea did in the last two years and Cibona now. But 4 years? that's a lot. Especialy considering the circumstances Cibona is in, I think this decision wasn't exactly fair one.

But does it surprise you when you look at their debt list? You said it yourself they're owing money to some guys for more than a decade :D
If we look at the facts that most teams are in financial problems (Cibona, Radnicki, Partizan...), 2 teams may not participate and those that will participate are playing with a weaker roster than the one from last year I can say that we're going faster and faster to hitting rock bottom. And even though some teams like CZV (or whatever we are) may not have a problem with money we still kept our coach and in the lack of words I'll just leave this video here to describe him http://youtu.be/LjTT4lGc8_s?t=10s

I definitely like the idea of local youngsters getting more shots this year.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-27-2014, 12:50 PM
Sure, now that all those debts have been exposed I don't think the decision to ban them from eurocup was harsh, but at that time I've been reading they'll be finishing with the sanation in a no time. :)
Even with Radonjić (am not his biggest fan either) ABA at this moment promises to be a playground for Zvezda and Cedevita next season.

AmonRA
07-28-2014, 07:21 AM
Sure, now that all those debts have been exposed I don't think the decision to ban them from eurocup was harsh, but at that time I've been reading they'll be finishing with the sanation in a no time. :)
Even with Radonjić (am not his biggest fan either) ABA at this moment promises to be a playground for Zvezda and Cedevita next season.
I`am not sure that Zvezda will have stronger team than Partizan, we should wait and see..

By the way, MZT extends Lucic, brings in Tsintsadze and Pajic..

Milos.Djuric
07-28-2014, 08:50 AM
I`am not sure that Zvezda will have stronger team than Partizan, we should wait and see..

By the way, MZT extends Lucic, brings in Tsintsadze and Pajic..

When you look at Zvezda since Pesic we didn't have a coach with any real authority, it's not a team built by a coach for his way of working, it's a coach (who is more of a figure head than a coach) + whatever team he gets.
So even if we have a stronger roster than other teams, it is debatable will it be used to it's full extent.

Like AmonRa said, "we should wait and see", who knows what both teams will be able to dig up...

Dr. Martin
07-30-2014, 02:27 PM
Hey guys, so who is going to replace Radnicki? If they are not playing ...

Dr. Martin
08-01-2014, 03:59 AM
http://www.b92.net/sport/vaterpolo/vesti.php?yyyy=2014&mm=07&dd=31&nav_id=883323

Joško Poljak Fan
08-01-2014, 01:33 PM
Now basicaly only football is without a regional league.

AmonRA
08-01-2014, 07:38 PM
Yo, Dr. Martin, what is the current roster of MZT? :p

Dr. Martin
08-02-2014, 10:38 AM
Now basicaly only football is without a regional league.

I like their system, first season 16 team, second season 12 team, best 10 teams from first season plus 2 from qualifications. Final 8 ... and U-14 - U-16 tournaments.

ABA should do the same.... next season, 20 teams, best 14 plus 2 from qualifications should play the 2016/2017 season. Playoffs .... and U-18 -U-16 tournaments.

Dr. Martin
08-02-2014, 10:42 AM
Yo, Dr. Martin, what is the current roster of MZT? :p

Who cares maaan :) they are going to be at the bottom this year....

You already know about Pajic and the Georgian player, he has good numbers. Sinovec left, waiting for the rest of the players to extend. But nothing mayor.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-02-2014, 02:10 PM
Pajić played well for Slovenian B team. He got stuck in Krka and got into a conflict with Džikić there, however an opinion that he can play well actually it's not really that uncommon. Sagadin tends to know that stuff. He is a psycho, strict and demanding, has his own interesting view on the game and is good at getting some role players to shine within his system, not to mention he was doing with Olimpija in the 90ies what Partizan is doing with his youngsters for the past decade.

So, as ussual, knowing Sagadin and his deadly practices, unless the injuries prevail he ussualy makes a somewhat average teams pretty competitive towards the end of the season if he has free hands and complete authority along that. He had his share of mediocre seasons with Zvezda and Zadar as well.

Dr. Martin
08-03-2014, 07:45 AM
69606961

Vote!

http://www.abaliga.com/n1/Home

AmonRA
08-07-2014, 11:12 AM
Buducnost made very strong team..
http://s29.postimg.org/pf7l1x5if/Buduc.png

Joško Poljak Fan
08-08-2014, 08:14 AM
I'm not fammiliar with both Americans, but overall this seems as a nice team, should be a F4 contenders the way things look right now.

Dr. Martin
08-11-2014, 04:14 AM
Playoff contender :)

Milos.Djuric
08-11-2014, 10:21 AM
Playoff contender :)

Definitely.

AmonRA
08-15-2014, 02:37 PM
http://s15.postimg.org/5x4hn6h6j/image.png

Radenovic still didn't renew, but probably should..
"Interesting" composition, and if Radonjic give freedom to MW, than this team can go far, despite some obvious deficiencies...

Joško Poljak Fan
08-15-2014, 11:58 PM
I love Dangubić, like Zirbes, really respect the players as Kalinić, am anxious to see Mitrović taking that next step as imo he might evolve into something special...
and than Zvezda goes and spoils it all with one member of my "least bearable point guards" list in Williams.
That guy can decide the game by himself, but I don't think Zvezda is going for the underdog position here where such performances matter. He can single handedly choke the whole lineup as well. It might be "Unicaja" efect though, let's wait and see him in a different enviroment, he definately doesn't lack talent.

Milos.Djuric
08-16-2014, 12:42 AM
I love Dangubić, like Zirbes, really respect the players as Kalinić, am anxious to see Mitrović taking that next step as imo he might evolve into something special...
and than Zvezda goes and spoils it all with one member of my "least bearable point guards" list in Williams.
That guy can decide the game by himself, but I don't think Zvezda is going for the underdog position here where such performances matter. He can single handedly choke the whole lineup as well. It might be "Unicaja" efect though, let's wait and see him in a different enviroment, he definately doesn't lack talent.

In the matter of Williams I think it's up to coach to get most out of him. And I hope he proves me wrong, but I think we don't have the right coach for that.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-19-2014, 12:30 PM
I agree Miloš, that's ussualy the case. Any way you look at it, Williams is one of the best signings in the league lately.

Not sure if I should entirely believe that, but kosarka.si is reporting that Helios changed their minds and might enter ABA anyway.

Dr. Martin
08-31-2014, 09:40 AM
Rabotnicki to replace Radnicki....

My favorite team is Rabotnicki, however it is not going to be fair for the Serbian Basketball to lose one spot, they deserved it.

I really don't like ABAs system, not just ABA the whole European Basketball system is fuc... up, so I am not going to be surprised if this happen.
And it is possible because Rabotnicki still didn't start with creating the team for the new season, Marin Dokuzovski is their coach now so it is possible that Cekovski, Gecevski, Ilievski and others will sign for Rabotnicki, maybe they are waiting for ABAs decision.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-31-2014, 10:44 AM
Helios changed their mind once again, they tried to negotiate the 150k€ wild card although ABA was very clear it's non-negotiable, as far as I've been told Radnički is unlikely to participate, so rumours about Rabotnički in ABA might be a viable

AmonRA
09-03-2014, 06:42 PM
Pavkovic zu Rabotnicki

@Dr. Martin
Did Cekovski and Gece signed for Rabotnicki?

News from Cibona
They re-sign with Blass.. Kuridza, Kus, Rozic and Sirsevic also staying + they add Boris Barac and Lulic...

Dr. Martin
09-04-2014, 06:04 AM
Yes, they signed, all 3: Pavkovic, Cekovski and Gecevski. Ilievski was too expensive, our media says he requested 300000 eur so they signed Pavkovic, I read good comments about him on B92 Sport.

WC prediction game standings:


37 AmonRA 104
49 Joško Poljak Fan 92
50 Dr. Martin 91
53 Milos.Djuric 90

AmonRA
09-04-2014, 08:23 AM
Yes, they signed, all 3: Pavkovic, Cekovski and Gecevski. Ilievski was too expensive, our media says he requested 300000 eur so they signed Pavkovic, I read good comments about him on B92 Sport.

WC prediction game standings:
37 AmonRA 104
49 Joško Poljak Fan 92
50 Dr. Martin 91
53 Milos.Djuric 90

1. nice :)

2. Yesterday I was 55th, so in a couple of days, I will be in first 5, or at least 10 :p lol

Milos.Djuric
09-04-2014, 11:19 AM
Haha, after first round I'm no longer playing seriously, I choose friends countries to win even though it is improbable, I lost about 25 points on "predictions" like that, just because they lost :D

Dr. Martin
09-05-2014, 11:13 AM
So Matalac, Helios and Rabotnicki are the candidates. Now ABA will play games instead of organizing tournament.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-05-2014, 11:19 AM
At the prediction game I'm either all-perfect or in minus believing some country will finaly start to play the way they can :cool: needless to say the all-perfect days are rare


Helios isn't a candidate anymore, they dropped out after they realised 150k € for wild card is non-negotionable and I can't remember where I've read it, but supposedly Radnički is off the list as well.

Milos.Djuric
09-05-2014, 12:15 PM
So Matalac, Helios and Rabotnicki are the candidates. Now ABA will play games instead of organizing tournament.

Do you mean Metalac? First I thought it might be some team from other countries but I haven't found a team with that name on the net...

Dr. Martin
09-05-2014, 12:30 PM
Do you mean Metalac? First I thought it might be some team from other countries but I haven't found a team with that name on the net...

Yes, Metalac Valjevo

Dr. Martin
09-05-2014, 12:31 PM
At the prediction game I'm either all-perfect or in minus believing some country will finaly start to play the way they can :cool: needless to say the all-perfect days are rare


Helios isn't a candidate anymore, they dropped out after they realised 150k € for wild card is non-negotionable and I can't remember where I've read it, but supposedly Radnički is off the list as well.

JPF,
Radnicki or Rabotnicki is off?


WC prediction game standings:
39 AmonRA 125
46 Dr. Martin 115
50 Milos.Djuric 109
52 Joško Poljak Fan 106

AmonRA
09-05-2014, 12:50 PM
So Matalac, Helios and Rabotnicki are the candidates. Now ABA will play games instead of organizing tournament.

They would not have signed Pavkovic, Gece and Cek if they not play in ABA, so that is already decided... imo.. :)

Peace
09-05-2014, 02:28 PM
http://www.kkcrvenazvezda.rs/index.php/article/darko-bajic-angazovao-bobija-marjanovica

DARKO BAJIĆ ANGAŽOVAO BOBIJA MARJANOVIĆA

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sexy uniform :rolleyes:

Milos.Djuric
09-05-2014, 03:35 PM
http://www.kkcrvenazvezda.rs/index.php/article/darko-bajic-angazovao-bobija-marjanovica

DARKO BAJIĆ ANGAŽOVAO BOBIJA MARJANOVIĆA

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sexy uniform :rolleyes:

It's for a historic movie, what could you expect, an NBA jersey? :)
It is a bit funny xD

AmonRA
09-05-2014, 04:11 PM
Yes, that is from filming a historical movie, and Bobi "acting" Janis Krumins( 220 cm tall Soviet Latvian center), who was won 3 gold European medal and 3 Silver Olympic medal with Soviet Union.. :)

Joško Poljak Fan
09-05-2014, 05:09 PM
JPF,
Radnicki or Rabotnicki is off?
My bad, mis-read it :)

AmonRA
09-05-2014, 06:58 PM
Guess I was wrong, Metalac get WC for ABA
http://www.abaliga.com/a7807/Official_Announcement/Metalac_received_the_ABA_League_wild_card.html

ThePeraCar
09-05-2014, 10:36 PM
Thats cool im so happy i think they will always play infront of 4000 people

Dr. Martin
09-06-2014, 01:56 PM
It's for a historic movie, what could you expect, an NBA jersey? :)
It is a bit funny xD

Movie... hahaha funny :D

So Metalac got it, good. I am not happy but, Serbia deserved 4 spots according to the ABA system.

serbianhoops
09-06-2014, 07:34 PM
Thats cool im so happy i think they will always play infront of 4000 people

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Is it an odd remark or the slightest humour?

Valjevo is clearly a default choice. Metalac is a long way off meeting the standards set by Adriatic League in term of seating capacity & hotels.

I personnaly think that Adriatic League wild card comes too early.

The team is rebuilding with an eye toward the future. During the off-season, the club management has deliberately cut older players in order to make room for some potentially talented youngsters such as Kutlesic ('94), Babovic ('95), Rakicevic ('95) or Kocovic ('96), and build a strong team within a few years. They need time & practices to grow as individuals & team, but at the same time, experience versus Adriatic top teams will be valuable for them. Unfortunately, without reinforcement, Metalac will be dead last and won't have the right to compete in Adriatic league in 2015/16. By contrast, with reinforcement, talented youngsters who came for play time will warm the bench and no one can guarantee success in avoiding relegation.

Last but no the least, Metalac will have to pay Adriatic league participation fee of 150.000 € and won't be able to invest in the infrastructure (new arena) and in the team's lifeblood (coaches, players and so on).

Carick235
09-06-2014, 11:46 PM
I'm happy for Metalac but unfortunately since they don't have proper hall in their city this is like another Mega in the league since they will play away, i know they stopped works on their new hall (5,000 capacity, only foundations finished) and this can push local government to finally finish it.

For the new hall they need something like 50x150.000 euros (for example construction cost of the new hall in Kraljevo were around 8 million euros, and in Valjevo with old project they plan to build bigger hall (planned costs around 10 millions)) so that 150k that will go for ABA definitely could not contribute to the construction of a new hall, simple everything depends on the local government, and state, and their willingness to invest in the hall.

Last but no the least, Metalac will have to pay Adriatic league participation fee of 150.000 € and won't be able to invest in the infrastructure (new arena) and in the team's lifeblood (coaches, players and so on).

New hall in Valjevo at the moment:
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2U/Lg/1UDq9OfE/hala-sportova-13.jpg

And some renders of the new hall:
http://www.vamedia.info/images/stories/izgled%20hale.jpg
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Milos.Djuric
09-07-2014, 02:59 AM
I hate projects like that, which stayed in development phase. Like that aquapark whatever in Belgrade blocks. Like this hall only the base is set, and it's like that for 5-10 years. That's a big investment for Valjevo, 10 mil, they have to be sure that it will be worth it (and don't forget how it works here, people making the decisions, if from state, they have to be greased, and all that goes with it). With a basketball team that plays ABA each year and potentially some Euro competition, this would be perfect (and possibly hosting some foreign competitions together with other cities), that may be the push needed.

serbianhoops
09-09-2014, 09:58 PM
Former Serbia's U20 national team 6'10" PF Djordje Majstorovic ('90) will spend next few days on tryout with Adriatic League participant Metalac Valjevo.

Dr. Martin
09-10-2014, 03:33 AM
still not 100% that Metalac will play, you know ABA, everything is possible.

AmonRA
09-10-2014, 12:13 PM
Marinovic zu Olimpijia? :D

serbianhoops
09-10-2014, 07:14 PM
In order to make room for some legit Adriatic League players (rumour says amongst others experienced big men Ratko Varda and Rasko Katic), BC Metalac Valjevo has released
Ognjen Kuzeta ('87), Ljubomir Campara ('93), Bozidar Babovic ('95), Nikola Kocovic ('96), Stefan Vujic ('93), former juniors Sasa Jankovic ('95) and Jovan Milovanovic ('95), and has also ended tryout with Nemanja Vucicevic ('92)

serbianhoops
09-10-2014, 10:32 PM
Given that Spain, Albania or Qatar have recently recruiting youngsters from Montenegro for their youth national teams, there is no reason why Serbia can't do the same, especially considering that one third of Montenegrin inhabitants declares themselves as Serbs (including myself). First steps in this direction are already being taken, Adriatic league participants BC Mega Srem and BC Crvena Zvezda Belgrade have respectively recruited F Matija Jokic ('98) from BC Sutomore and PG Ivan Corovic ('98) from BC Montenegro Niksic. Both will count as domestic players in Serbian youth leagues and will be eligible to play for Serbia's youth national teams.

Dr. Martin
09-11-2014, 12:56 PM
32 AmonRA 157
43 Dr. Martin 141
44 Milos.Djuric 141
45 Joško Poljak Fan 141

Milos.Djuric
09-11-2014, 05:28 PM
Given that Spain, Albania or Qatar have recently recruiting youngsters from Montenegro for their youth national teams, there is no reason why Serbia can't do the same, especially considering that one third of Montenegrin inhabitants declares themselves as Serbs (including myself). First steps in this direction are already being taken, Adriatic league participants BC Mega Srem and BC Crvena Zvezda Belgrade have respectively recruited F Matija Jokic ('98) from BC Sutomore and PG Ivan Corovic ('98) from BC Montenegro Niksic. Both will count as domestic players in Serbian youth leagues and will be eligible to play for Serbia's youth national teams.

I'm OK with this. For players from ex-Yu republics who feel like they are Serbian and want to play for Serbia, that's cool. I'm even OK with Ibaka as playing in Spain pulled him out of the gutter. I'm not OK with Mirotic joining Spanish team, if he feels as a Spaniard just because he played in Spain during his teenage year then wow. He wasn't endangered or anything over here. If it wasn't for the high price compensation required by (I think it was KK Joker, some funny name like that, pun un/intended) Red Star and Partizan might have gotten him. This just shows how basketball is messed up now, because Real Madrid had the money to pay to your club when you were young now you are playing for another country.

Joško Poljak Fan
09-12-2014, 10:49 AM
Olimpija brought Marinović and rounded up the squad.

PG: Marinović, Marinelli, Rupnik
SG: Salin, Hrovat
SF: Nikolovski, Mahkovic, Brodnik
PF: D.Murič, Kanačević
C: Omić, Vučetić

AmonRA
09-12-2014, 04:16 PM
32 AmonRA 157
43 Dr. Martin 141
44 Milos.Djuric 141
45 Joško Poljak Fan 141
Guess nothing from my plan, to be in, at least top 10.. :p


Olimpija brought Marinović and rounded up the squad.

PG: Marinović, Marinelli, Rupnik
SG: Salin, Hrovat
SF: Nikolovski, Mahkovic, Brodnik
PF: D.Murič, Kanačević
C: Omić, Vučetić
Decent squad at the end...
http://s27.postimg.org/gf67fa8v7/Untitled.png
Kanacevic will probably be the biggest positive surprise..

Joško Poljak Fan
09-14-2014, 10:22 AM
I wouldn't mind that :) don't know him enough to make a judgement though. In preparation games Mahkovic was ussualy the best scorer, along with Rupnik surprisingly.
In any case the reality if 5th-7th place for this team, anything more than that would be a positive surprise imo.

Obina
09-14-2014, 03:14 PM
Misko4Raznatovic ‏@MiskoRaznatovic 11m

7 medals on World cup for the players from Aba league. 2 Partizan, 2 Red star, 3 Radnicki. Almost 20 percents-)

interesting...

serbianhoops
09-15-2014, 04:49 PM
Despite previous reports, it seems that SG Ognjen Kuzeta ('87), PF/C Ljubomir Campara ('93) and PG Nikola Kocovic ('96) are still members of BC Metalac Valjevo. All three players took part to yesterday's game against BC Igokea Aleksandrovac.

pohani komarac
09-17-2014, 06:26 PM
Blassingame, Mikulic, Mavra
Siriscevic, Kus, Kruslin
Rozic, Slavica
Barac, Kuridza, Gabric
Lalic, Ante Zizic

Joško Poljak Fan
09-20-2014, 04:54 PM
Olimpija signed Mirza Begić on an open contract, meaning he can leave the team when he get's some better offer, reportedly he is aiming at those top clubs and hopefully he'll have to wait for a while :)

ThePeraCar
09-20-2014, 05:02 PM
Olimpija signed Mirza Begić on an open contract, meaning he can leave the team when he get's some better offer, reportedly he is aiming at those top clubs and hopefully he'll have to wait for a while :)

no way anyone is gonna take him

serbianhoops
09-21-2014, 06:20 PM
BC Metalac Valjevo sent 4 youngsters on loan to BC Crnokosa Kosjeric which compete in the 1st Men's League of Serbia: 6'8" swingman Petar Rakicevic ('95), 6'5 SG Bozidar Babovic ('95), 6'6 PG Nikola Kocovic ('96) and 6'6" SG Nemanja Vucicevic ('92).

Joško Poljak Fan
09-21-2014, 09:27 PM
no way anyone is gonna take him
That would be fine with me, obviously he is playing for 0€ at Olimpija, but Mirza even half motivated is still above the level of most lower end EL teams, there is a serious lack of centers around there, I don't think he'll stay for more than a month or two, definately not after the EL group stage. With Cibona, Cedevita, Zvezda and Partizan all in first 4 rounds, he'll be more than welcome here.

ThePeraCar
09-21-2014, 09:47 PM
if he plays for 0€ its tottally different story

Khalid80
09-23-2014, 02:04 PM
Lebanese Jade Fattouh signed with Mega Vizura as their assistant coach. Congrats to him and hoping he can continue to progress and hopefully be a head coach of top level teams in the future

http://bcmegabasket.net/en/component/content/article/42-english/news/2014-2015/top/973-jade-fattouh-is-the-new-assistant-coach-of-our-team.html

Coach Subotic was trying to help him find an opportunity with Olimpija but it didn't work out.

b-raider
09-24-2014, 09:03 AM
I have just noticed that on FIBA BAT Sanctions page (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/expe/fat/p/openNodeIDs/19681/selNodeID/19681/sanctions.html) Cibona Zagreb is now absent. Has the ban of FIBA been taken off? How they have managed to deal with all of the debts?

Joško Poljak Fan
09-24-2014, 09:46 AM
I've googled a bit, try using google translate here (http://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/cibonu-spasili-ljudi-iz-sjene-aco-pronasao-15-milijuna-i-buduceg-predsjednika-cibone/768963.aspx) and here (http://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/petrovic-otkrio-mamic-nema-nikakve-veze-sa-saniranjem-ciboninih-dugova/770596.aspx) for full articles.

To sum it roughly, 2M € have come from Šarić's buyout, city of Zagreb, from Petrović family (Aco being the HC, late Dražen a legend of the club) and two anonimous investors. That obviously was enough to deal with the debts that have put the club under the fiba blockade, while some other debts remain. The financial situation regarding the remaining debts will be revealed in october (if I got the croatian names of the months right, I rarely do :) )

ThePeraCar
09-25-2014, 03:17 PM
ABA league will be broadcasted on Sport Klub this year
http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Evropska-kosarka/260101/Prenosi-ABA-lige-od-ove-sezone-na-Sport-klubu

Milos.Djuric
09-25-2014, 03:32 PM
Lebanese Jade Fattouh signed with Mega Vizura as their assistant coach. Congrats to him and hoping he can continue to progress and hopefully be a head coach of top level teams in the future

http://bcmegabasket.net/en/component/content/article/42-english/news/2014-2015/top/973-jade-fattouh-is-the-new-assistant-coach-of-our-team.html

Coach Subotic was trying to help him find an opportunity with Olimpija but it didn't work out.

Wow, very cool, I like to see this types of initiative.

Khalid80
09-26-2014, 06:28 AM
Wow, very cool, I like to see this types of initiative.

It's been a while that Jade Fattouh has been trying to find the right opportunity to get such an experience in Europe and it finally worked for him and I hope he can continue building up on this.

He's a very hard worker and a huge basketball enthusiast who follows international basketball (particularly European basketball) to the finest detail.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-01-2014, 09:43 AM
Slo supercup: Krka - Olimpija 66-63
One thing is certain, Armstead wasn't accidentaly leading Wichita State to ncaa F4 in 2013, finaly healthy he took over the game with his individual skills when it mattered for 23 points. Marinović was constantly left behind and Rupnik got fouled out.
Krka is weak under the rim, I never was a particular fan of Booker, Bolčina is too hasty and would be better off picking some martial art with his aproach, while Imre Polutak has some good body frame to start with, yet is a bit young. A center duo as Omić+Begić wasn't able to even remotely capitalize on that, along with numerous stupid TO's that's where Olimpija has lost the game.
Hrovat (scored 15) will likely proove to be a steal for Olimpija with some additional experience, Rupnik (11 points) with the same flaws as ussual, but is obviously working on those and might proove to be a late boomer. Dino Murič a standard double-double machine with 14 +12.

Olimpija was pretty much discfunctional for the last quarter, but overall I'm not all that worried or angry as basicaly for this, probably around 700k€ salary budget, it's actualy a pretty good team. Salin and Omić being by far best paid players on the team with as small contribution is a bit absurd though.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-01-2014, 10:23 AM
As the season starts in 2 days, here is my short list of expectations:

1. Zvezda; by far strongest roster in the league and in my honest belief one of the strongest teams in the history of the league. Jović, Kalinić, those signings really make very good sense, however Tejić and Mitrović at PF seems as a slight liability at first. Hopefully Radonjić will surprise me.

2. Cedevita; not yet sure if they have decided to go "all-Croatian" this year or are they thinking about adding 1-2 NBA drop-outs within the next weeks. The difference should be substantial, while they seem to be getting on the right track and might make up for some lack of individual quality with team play, one athletic C, PF and potentialy PG/SG could do wonders for them and their chances to do something more in euroleague than just participate.

3. Partizan; untill the Klobučar case gets solved they're unable to register additional players and are a bit of a questionmark accordingly, however their remaining core of players is actually good. They ussualy tend to surprise toward the end of the season visibly making up with training for what they lacked at the start of the season.

4. Budućnost; nothing spectacular really, but their players have been around for a while if they manage to pick the Americans of their ussual level, they are imo the most obvious candidates for the lkast F4 spot.

it gets a bit messy after this one. Sure I expect surprises to happen, yet the above 4 seems one class above the following group.
5-9 Cibona, Olimpija, Szolnoki, MZT, Igokea
Cibona kind of lacks of individual quality to fight with the upper mentioned group, their veterans aren't getting any younger and losing Šarić is a big deal. It'll be nice watching Van Oostrum and young Žižić, however they now severely lack depth to battle the upper 4 teams and no Dario around to surpass that with individual heroism.
Olimpija has the youngest team in ages if excluding Marinović+Begić+Nikolov. Would be placed higher if it wasn't for the fact Begić will dissapear at one point and Omić and Salin are able to occasionaly compete with famous illusionist David Copperfield at dissapearing and physicaly being there all at the same time
Szolnoki; well as much as people won't believe me, they got their lessons now. It was impossible to compete for them in the first season, they've made a huge step forward in the second season and their core knows what it takes to compete by now.
MZT simmilar as with Szolnoki. Knowing Sagadin their game won't always be a joy to watch, but they'll make the job done.
Igokea; once again not assembling a team that would be able to win it all, but they'll manage to be a tough opponent.

10-12 Krka, Metalac, Mega Vizura
All those 3 teams have the ability to screw with the upper 5 teams and at least one of those 3 will likely do so, however as far as individual quality goes, i think they are placed in the right group here.

13. Zadar; too young to make a difference at this budget level imo.

14. Levski; while I honestly have no clue about their level, it ussualy takes a while to adapt to ABA. Levski might surprise and compete for the middle of the standings, but I find that unlikely.


1st round
Zvezda - Levski 1
Cibona Olimpija 2
Krka - Cedevita 2
Szolnoki - Partizan 2
Mega Vizura - MZT 2
Zadar - Igokea 2
Budućnost - Metalac 1

ThePeraCar
10-01-2014, 10:53 AM
Let the games begin :D

Milos.Djuric
10-01-2014, 05:25 PM
ABA League will use camera shots in each game for referees to inspect calls that they deem uncertain.

Joško Poljak Fan
10-01-2014, 06:15 PM
for the last 2 minutes of the game I suppose? Good call.

ThePeraCar
10-01-2014, 06:51 PM
http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/serbia/136367/sam-muldrow-signs-with-metalac-valjevo.html
Metalac adding players :P

serbianhoops
10-01-2014, 11:24 PM
As BC Crnokosa Kosjeric stepped out of the First Men's League of Serbia because of a lack of funds, BC Metalac's loaned players are back in the team. Who says irrational accumulation of players?

Milos.Djuric
10-01-2014, 11:46 PM
for the last 2 minutes of the game I suppose? Good call.

I presumed so, but as they didn't specify I'm not sure:
http://www.abaliga.com/a7871/Official_Announcement/Instant_Replay_in_ABA_League.html

Especially because of the bold part
The Instant Replay system will enable the referees to avoid every dilemma regarding their decisions on the court and to make a correct call in each moment during the game

AmonRA
10-03-2014, 02:35 PM
1st round
Zvezda - Levski 1
Cibona Olimpija 2
Krka - Cedevita 2
Szolnoki - Partizan 1
Mega Vizura - MZT 1
Zadar - Igokea 2
Budućnost - Metalac 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-03-2014, 06:39 PM
I think Zvezda fans have a lot to look forward to this season. Jović and Kalinić are imo an upgrade on last season and even if they wouldn't be, they both can play defense. I really like what I see from Zirbes, Mitrović's development seems to be fulfilling the expectations, while Dangubić and Tejić can only develop further. Williams seems to be out of shape, I'm also not a particular fan of him, in Unicaja he used to drive me nuts, however his court awareness and scoring ability are uncomparable to Nelson.
Once Zvezda started to press towards the end of the 3rd quarter it was game over. Jović, Blažič, Kalinić - that's some really nice pressure defense on the perimeter.

ThePeraCar
10-03-2014, 09:28 PM
What do you guys think of quality of ABA this season in general I think its better than last season And I think from this year on clubs are gonna stabilize and be more competitive like olimpija budućnost cibona cedevita szolnok široki igokea

Joško Poljak Fan
10-04-2014, 09:25 AM
Olimpija managed to pull it off 80-85. Blassingame singlehandedly kept Cibona in game as we had no PG able to sustain him, but than commited a stupid foul on Mahkovic on fast break, gestured sucking dick to Begić at the FT line which along some verbal stuff earned him a technical and than threw the ball at the referee for a hit harsh, yet another techical. Van Oostrum isn't all that fammiliar with the team and Kus isn't getting any younger which made Cibona's organisation fall, they've spent a lot of energy trying to get back in the game and they got a bit tired due to short rotation.
Olimpija had some good finds this off-season, Hrovat already kicked Salin out of the starting 5 as far as I am concerned, Nikolov scored 17 out of Olimpija's 19 points in the first quarter, Mahkovic although a SF brings some effective missmatch playing at PF and Rupnik actually plays some bball - unlike in previous 2-3 seasons, finaly a breakthrough for him. Begić isn't there yet though.


What do you guys think of quality of ABA this season in general I think its better than last season And I think from this year on clubs are gonna stabilize and be more competitive like olimpija budućnost cibona cedevita szolnok široki igokea
It's hard to judge in general, especialy so early. Before the season I've thought that this season ABA will have one of it's worst editions, but right now, I am not so sure about that.
Zvezda - definately better. I mean, their potential is imo now bigger than most people will dare saying, yet the results could go both ways, just like with all the teams below, good vs. bad coaching can mean a lot here, as well as of course dozens of small, unpredictable coincidences. I've already counted their improvements. While such prognosis are never rock solid ones, from the bball I've seen in my life, unless my brain started cheating on me, if this team fails to get to top16 I will be surprised.
Olimpija - also better (to my surprise actually). We already have more wins in ABA than we've had after 6 rounds last year. :D Roster is somewhat deeper and more likeable
Cibona isn't there yet, however imho Olimpija was lucky to get the chance to snatch a win at the start. With Van Oostrum getting to know the team and Barać playing they'll get some of that desperately needed rotation, if they manage to include Mavra, Gabrić and Žižić effectively or sign someone new now that the Fiba blockade is over, they've solved a big problem and will be a tough nut to crack. Without Šarić however even increased depth probably wouldn't keep them on the last years level.
Levski has some decent experienced players, however lacks that extra quality that would bring in the result. Not yet sure if they are better than Široki (which they replaced)

Joško Poljak Fan
10-04-2014, 10:35 PM
Krka's Armstead was amazing, one of the most dominant offensive PG performances I have seen in a while. He nailed 8 points 4/4 FG in the 3rd and 11 5/5 FG when he got back in the 4th only disrupted by one turnover and Hukić's 3pointer. 31 points, 6 rebs, 4 passes and a 80-72 win against Cedevita. Kastrati is also obviously taking the next step, nice all round game by him and Hukić routinely sealed the deal in the 4th. Roko Ukić got some slight injury somewhere in the 3rd quarter and Cedevita's game dropped significantly afterwards. What I've suspected is imo pretty much likely to be true on the long run, Cedevita could use an athletic PG (sorry Gordić) as well as a 2nd center, Arapović is still young and Zubčić is below average there. I'm not yet sure of Cedevita's level, however they'll have to play better in Ljubljana imho.
At first sight, Krka is noticably weaker than last year when roster is in question, yet somehow seems to be pulling it off. Cedevita also seems weaker to my dissapointment.

Szolnoki - Partizan was a pretty boring game, since Partizan was playing mostly with kids, without Milosavljević and Murič I expected a tough match, however Szolnoki wasn't up to the level. Vojvoda and Sinovec were the only ones playing, Jones was a dissaster, Bader nowhere to be seen... without some reinforcements or a system overhaul, Szolnoki doesn't promise to win many games if they can't at least challenge as limited Partizan as we've seen. Sure Partizan played some good defense, but that was evenly matched by Szolnoki's inability to create anything on court.

Igokea has yet another PG named Jones that prooved to be a dissaster in his ABA debut. On the other hand Zadar's PG Florence nailed some long range shots (although his shot selection is poor) got some confidence and along with the ussual Sobin and later on Ramljak, was enough for the win.

I really hated the fact I couldn't watch Mega - MZT and Budućnost-Metalac instead.

ThePeraCar
10-05-2014, 02:41 AM
Metalac is better than Radničk(atleast in organisation) Budućnost must play bettér,Mega continiued where they stopped last season Jokić is wow :-D

AmonRA
10-05-2014, 02:22 PM
Tehnical sponsors :D

Adidas: Mega and Partizan
Asiscs: Cibona
Macron: Olimpija
PEAK: Zadar
Champion: C. Zvezda
Li-Ning: MZT
Spalding: Solnok
Joma: Levski
Givova: Igokea
Kappa: Metalac
Nike: Cedevita
Luanvi: Buducnost
Zolna sport: Krka

AmonRA
10-05-2014, 02:49 PM
1st round
Josko 4/7
AmonRa 4/7


2nd round
Union Olimpija : Cedevita 2
MZT Skopje : Zadar 1
Cibona : Crvena zvezda 2
Szolnoki : Metalac 1
Igokea : Budućnost 2
Levski Sofija : Mega Vizura 1
Partizan : Krka 1

ThePeraCar
10-05-2014, 09:35 PM
Union Olimpija : Cedevita 2
MZT Skopje : Zadar 1
Cibona : Crvena zvezda 2
Szolnoki : Metalac 2
Igokea : Budućnost 1
Levski Sofija : Mega Vizura 2
Partizan : Krka 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-06-2014, 10:21 AM
2nd round
Union Olimpija : Cedevita 1
unless Cedevita plays significantly better than vs. Krka I think it's pretty safe to say they'll have a tough time.
MZT Skopje : Zadar 1
I think Zadar will seek those upsets on their home court mostly
Cibona : Crvena zvezda 2
short rotation vs. longest rotation in the league, outcome is matter of minutes mostly. I am curious on how will Van Oostrum improve
Szolnoki : Metalac 2
failed to see Metalac, but what I've seen from Szolnok was far from promising
Igokea : Budućnost 2
Igokea has one of the weakest rosters in last few years, while Budućnost has one of the strongest in decade.
Levski Sofija : Mega Vizura 2
I'm not betting against Mega one more round :)
Partizan : Krka 1
not sure when was the last time Krka won in Belgrade, however if what we've seen vs. Szolnoki is actual Partizan's current state, than they've got one of the best opportunities for that in years. Generaly, the game should be decided under the rim where I don't think Krka will hold their own, if Partizan will let them in a close ending of the game, Armstead won the last two such occasions on his own.

Milos.Djuric
10-07-2014, 09:15 AM
Oh sh*t I forgot to do predictions...facepalm...

Olimpija : Cedevita 1
MZT : Zadar 1
Cibona : CZV 2
Szolnoki : Metalac 2
Igokea : Buducnost 2
Levski : M. Vizura 2
Partizan : Krka 1 - it's possible that Edo Muric will debut for Partizan on this game, of course a lot will depend on Partizan's defense and Armstead...

Joško Poljak Fan
10-07-2014, 06:02 PM
Olimpija - Cedevita 77-67
I'll quote Zoran Martić (MZT coach last season, co-comentator on TV): Cedevita showed absolutely no desire to win the game with an exception somewhere in 4th quarter, props to Ante Delaš, lost all the "undecided" rebounds and showed no extra quality that would be in relation with their goals this season. Players seemed anemic for the most part. Ukić not playing definately had an impact, Mršić leading the team instead of Repeša mostlikely also had a part in that bad performance, but other than that, if Olimpija would be more stable (logicaly they're not at this part of the season) and would nail some of those FT's (13:29 today, 23:42 a week ago vs. Cibona, I hope this won't become a habit) it would be a slaughter, not as much due to Olimpija as due to Cedevita without energy.
Mahkovic with 17 points straight out of Slovenian league, that's something.

ThePeraCar
10-07-2014, 07:05 PM
im very happy that olimpija is alot better this season :D

Joško Poljak Fan
10-08-2014, 01:35 PM
im very happy that olimpija is alot better this season :D
Nothing is certain yet. The team seems much more likeable at first sight, yet Cedevita without Ukić is playing surprisingly mediocre and we've seen what Zvezda has done to Cibona yesterday. Olimpija kept them somewhat close and made them believe they could get back in the game, while Zvezda ended any hope of them coming back within the first quarter.

btw, anyone playing ABA fantasy?

ThePeraCar
10-08-2014, 09:14 PM
not a single prediction right only czv xD

Milos.Djuric
10-09-2014, 11:04 AM
not a single prediction right only czv xD

You have 2, MZT Skopje won against Zadar...

AmonRA
10-09-2014, 01:21 PM
2nd round
AmonRa 5/7
Josko 4/7
Milos.Djuric 4/7
Exitche 2/7


overall
AmonRa 9/14
Josko 8/14
Milos.Djuric 4/7
Exitche 2/7

3rd round
Szolnoki Olaj : Igokea 1
Cedevita : Partizan NIS 1
Crvena zvezda Telekom : Union Olimpija 1
Krka : Metalac Farmakom 1
Zadar : Levski Sofija 1
Budućnost VOLI : MZT Skopje Aerodrom 1
Mega Vizura : Cibona 2

ThePeraCar
10-09-2014, 02:11 PM
Szolnoki Olaj : Igokea 1
Cedevita : Partizan NIS 1
Crvena zvezda Telekom : Union Olimpija 1
Krka : Metalac Farmakom 1
Zadar : Levski Sofija 2
Budućnost VOLI : MZT Skopje Aerodrom 1
Mega Vizura : Cibona 1

ajzeja
10-10-2014, 07:45 AM
Szolnoki Olaj : Igokea 1
Cedevita : Partizan NIS 1
Crvena zvezda Telekom : Union Olimpija 1
Krka : Metalac Farmakom 1
Zadar : Levski Sofija 1
Budućnost VOLI : MZT Skopje Aerodrom 1
Mega Vizura : Cibona 1

Milos.Djuric
10-10-2014, 09:07 AM
Szoklnoki - Igokea 1
Cedevita - Partizan 2
C. Zvezda - Olimpija 1
Krka - Metalac 1
Zadar - Levski 1
Buducnost - MZT 1
M. Vizura - Cibona 1

Where is Dr. Martin? For some of the games I can see the away team winning, but I only gave Partizan reasonable doubt...

Joško Poljak Fan
10-10-2014, 12:00 PM
Szolnoki - Igokea 1
Igokea being as unimpressive as of late, Szolnoki should take advantage of it.

Cedevita - Partizan 1
Ukić playing or not might represent some difference, but at the end with the average of what both teams have shown thus far, Cedevita is the favorite in any case.

C. Zvezda - Olimpija 1
As much as Olimpija is positively surprising, Zvezda is on it's own pace. Olimpija is too inexperience to hold it's own against some d pressure Zvezda is able to perform.

Krka - Metalac 1
As Džikić said it was easy playing 2 games as an underdog, Metalac will be tougher opponent due to it.

Zadar - Levski 1
Zadar is traditional tough at home, although I think Levski might get close.

Budućnost - MZT 1
Yet to figure out what's going out with Budućnost, great roster yet I couldn't really realise what's wrong with them watching their Igokea match

M. Vizura - Cibona 2
No way all the home teams will win this round :)

ThePeraCar
10-11-2014, 06:49 PM
a bit sad for Partizan i hope they will change everything soon in the club from Vujosevic to Danilovic

Joško Poljak Fan
10-11-2014, 09:49 PM
a bit sad for Partizan i hope they will change everything soon in the club from Vujosevic to Danilovic
I don't know about that part, but now that they got a PF in Bogdanović they surely could use a PG next - i'm really not impressed by the way Tepić led the team today.
Cedevita wasn't really challenged in this game, although they've got some major holes in their roster themselves. I am afraid they might be going down way too easy in euroleague. Basicaly all they'd need is a Nolan Smith type of PG and some athletic college PF and they would be able to get way further than they are right now. Gordić doesn't fit their playing style, Zubčić is even more obviously not the PF they need and while Pilepić seems dangerous there, I can see some really mediocre teams abusing zone defense on them. Too bad.

Olimpija got back from the 24 point deficit, but was a bit short at the end. Better overall performance than I've honestly expected with as cheap team as this one and an early sign Pipan &Co. made a good job with their selection this season. Begić is slowely getting back in shape, Marjanović was in his beast mode. Considering Zvezda won the rebounds 42:25 and that Olimpija was 3:22 from 3point range, 73-65 is almost an incredible result to be honest.
Williams is better than our whole backcourt combined, Jenkins obviously doesn't mind a lesser role this year and did pretty well, well... wish you guys to kick some a$$es in euroleague as I doubt Cedevita will manage to do that in the name of ABA :)

ajzeja
10-12-2014, 08:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JyjGHHz7iY

AmonRA
10-12-2014, 09:05 AM
Yesterday against Olimpia, Radonjic once again show us, how much idiot is he...
Anyway, in current situation, this Zvezda is Maccabi for ABA league, but in EL, I`am not optimistic, especially with Luka and Tejic on Pf position, and ofcourse with Radonjic on the bench...

Joško Poljak Fan
10-12-2014, 10:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JyjGHHz7iY
Great 3pointer there. I missed most of the game, however Igokea's Jones is far from the ABA level, he is hurting them badly, just as on the last possesion.


Yesterday against Olimpia, Radonjic once again show us, how much idiot is he...
Anyway, in current situation, this Zvezda is Maccabi for ABA league, but in EL, I`am not optimistic, especially with Luka and Tejic on Pf position, and ofcourse with Radonjic on the bench...
Well, I know we tend to disagree about this matter yet as far as I am concerned 2/3rds of the reasons that Zvezda didn't get to top16 last year are repaired this season imho!
1. The game is not Schilb centric (I didn't mean to provoke here :) )
2. You've got yourself a PG, actualy 2 of them
the third is Radonjić, for my taste, but hey... maybee his last season was a fluke, let's wait and see.
4th was a relatively tough group, but that's out of your abilities to fix.
you've got some clear upgrades in defensive 2nd lineup and a lot more versatility as well as overall quality imho (Williams>Nelson, Zirbes>Katić, Kalinić>(for my taste) Simonović, Jović>than noone and the both PF's as much as they might not be on the level of Radenović and Dragičević those two showed much less than I've honestly expected and less than Mitrović is showing atm.)

Euroleague is no dream level. Most of the teams can't compete with EL teams due to height on PF/C (height comes with € for most) and due to one class worse PG's, you don't suffer from any of this, in fact you excell at it actualy. The group you've got is once again pretty tough one as Valencia and Oly are one of the rare teams that won't drop their level a lot and Galatasaray got so many names it hurts, but one of those bigs fails everytime. They won't win easily in arena if they'll win there at all. You'll get through the regular phase.

AmonRA
10-13-2014, 09:46 PM
3rd round
ajzeja 7/7
AmonRa 6/7
Josko 6/7
Exitche 6/7
Milos.Djuric 6/7


overall
AmonRa 15/21
Josko 14/21
Milos.Djuric 10/14
Exitche 8/14
ajzeja 7/7

Joško Poljak Fan
10-13-2014, 10:55 PM
Not one visiting team won this round :P

Igokea - Krka 2; Igokea heavily lacks playmaking, Krka surprising nicely and efficiently including big part of their roster in the game
MZT - Szolnoki 1; MZT is somewhat underwhealming thus far, yet I expect them to have a big home crowd once again
Olimpija - Partizan 1;Olimpija isn't lucky with injuries lately, however seems to have deeper bench than Partizan
Levski - Budućnost 2; this will be a tough one. Budućnost doesn't seem to be playing up to their capacities at the moment
Cedevita - Metalac 1; Metalac switched from Serbian league to ABA within few weeks and it's impossible to configure a competitive roster in such a short time
Zvezda - Mega Vizura 1; no match really even if Mega continues being one of the best surprises in the league second season in the row
Cibona - Zadar 2; not likely... but I can't remember the last time I've betted on Cibona when they've played vs. Zadar and I'll keep the tradition :)

Interestingly enough, I learned that Krka's Alexis Wangmene "step father" or rather the man that enabled him to get to NCAA out of Cameroon and had him living under his roof in the US is actualy the Spurs GM R.C. Buford, one of the best bball minds out there (at least as far as I am concerned). He attended Krka-Metalac game and Alexis damn sure was fired up that game.

AmonRA
10-15-2014, 03:56 PM
Keselj signed open contract with Mega... He will have debut on Sunday against Zvezda..

Igokea - Krka 2
MZT - Szolnoki 1
Olimpija - Partizan 1
Levski - Budućnost 2
Cedevita - Metalac 1
Zvezda - Mega Vizura 1
Cibona - Zadar 1

ThePeraCar
10-15-2014, 05:14 PM
Igokea - Krka 2
MZT - Szolnoki 1
Olimpija - Partizan 1
Levski - Budućnost 2
Cedevita - Metalac 1
Zvezda - Mega Vizura 1
Cibona - Zadar 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-15-2014, 10:53 PM
Krka's 4-0 run this season ended by Grosuplje in Slovenian league. Armstead wasn't playing yet nevertheless a major surprise...

MZT fired Sagadin after the defeat vs. Feni in national championship. That was quick.

Milos.Djuric
10-16-2014, 10:44 AM
Igokea - Krka 2
MZT - Szolnoki 1
Olimpija - Partizan 1
Levski - Budućnost 2
Cedevita - Metalac 1
Zvezda - Mega Vizura 1
Cibona - Zadar 1

ajzeja
10-18-2014, 09:53 AM
MZT fired Sagadin after the defeat vs. Feni in national championship. That was quick.

Not so good for us.




Igokea - Krka 2
MZT - Szolnok 2
Olimpija - Partizan 1
Levski - Budućnost 2
Cedevita - Metalac 1
Zvezda - Mega Vizura 1
Cibona - Zadar 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-18-2014, 10:17 AM
Not so good for us.
COuld be, ussualy team responds well just after the replacement and since Sagadin is known for rigid game plans, my guess is that players will like being unleashed from those strict set plays.

Partizan signed Mačvan untill the end of the season. They got th PF they needed now, one more PG or combo to go and they are back in the game once again. Any idea if Mačvan will already play in Ljubljana?

AmonRA
10-18-2014, 01:45 PM
Partizan signed Mačvan untill the end of the season. They got th PF they needed now, one more PG or combo to go and they are back in the game once again. Any idea if Mačvan will already play in Ljubljana?
Thinks not, he will debut against Banvit on wednesday..

ThePeraCar
10-18-2014, 02:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3-abmIBlRI

AmonRA
10-19-2014, 05:15 PM
http://youtu.be/SYTkIHPw988
:hail: :cool:

Joško Poljak Fan
10-19-2014, 09:44 PM
Absolutely sick shot!
Partizan was stacking towards the middle in defense, Olimpija had a good day from the range, but those shots were rarely properly contested anyway and simmilary stacking to the middle in offense due to lacking enough shooters to spread the floor open. Mirza Begić had a party accordingly, haven't seen a player give away 6 blocks in ABA probably since Vranješ. You can play bball without centers, even if that's hard, but Partizan is showing the exact reason why you can't play basketball without guards.
Mahkovic once again a great performance, same with Hrovat.
Mirza's highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_cwIXptmFU)

Krka did the ussual, beated all the favourites to later lose to a realisticaly weaker team that just happened to fight, unlike Krka. 19 points only in the 2nd half.
After that anti-propaganda for basketball, I continued with MZT-Szolnoki when realising 7 minutes into the game at a score 4-4, I might be watching too much basketball even if completely unwatchable and turned the tv off finaly

ThePeraCar
10-19-2014, 10:08 PM
http://youtu.be/9lCwXQjRgEg monster game by mitrovic

Obina
10-20-2014, 09:17 AM
Mitrovic new euroleague rising star. :)

ThePeraCar
10-20-2014, 11:35 AM
i hope so i dont see any other young player that could compete with him

Joško Poljak Fan
10-21-2014, 11:18 AM
LOL Mahkovic does it again at practice (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154694320080184) :D
So much about luck, from now on it's a set-play :)

I agree that from what I've seen thus far, Mitrović is one of the biggest candidates for the rising star trophy. However I ussualy didn't like those selections as I always kind of felt someone else should get it than it actualy did. Euroleague is using that more like a marketing tool than "best young player award", sadly.

Zadar led for most of the game yesterday, yet lost by a narrow miss by their US PG and than (I think it was) Ramljak nailing an incredible 3pointer of the backboard 1 second too late.

Mindozas
10-21-2014, 11:27 AM
Zadar led for most of the game yesterday, yet lost by a narrow miss by their US PG and than (I think it was) Ramljak nailing an incredible 3pointer of the backboard 1 second too late.

Don't know what actually happened, but it looked like refs stole that second from Zadar before last attack

AmonRA
10-22-2014, 08:43 AM
4th round
AmonRa 6/7
Exitche 6/7
Milos.Djuric 6/7
Josko 5/7
ajzeja 5/7


overall
AmonRa 21/28
Josko 19/28
Milos.Djuric 16/21
Exitche 14/21
ajzeja 12/14

Joško Poljak Fan
10-22-2014, 10:17 AM
Don't know what actually happened, but it looked like refs stole that second from Zadar before last attack
They were having troubles with the on-screen lock through most of the game. The time ran one second or two after the whistle at that point, but I think they've added a new second to Zadar in that case, didn't really pay attention to it. In any case Florence dribbled unnecesary at the perimeter 5 seconds to go he could have avoid it.
With Markota Cibona gained one desperately needed additional man in their rotation and it shows. Without him, Zadar would have won easily.

Mindozas
10-22-2014, 11:08 AM
They were having troubles with the on-screen lock through most of the game. The time ran one second or two after the whistle at that point, but I think they've added a new second to Zadar in that case, didn't really pay attention to it. In any case Florence dribbled unnecesary at the perimeter 5 seconds to go he could have avoid it.
With Markota Cibona gained one desperately needed additional man in their rotation and it shows. Without him, Zadar would have won easily.

I didn't understand why the refs whisteled at all after Zadar made a rebound before last possesion. It looked like everything was fine. Clock was at 8.7s or so, but when they returned the ball to Zagreb it was just 7s left. Maybe they let the clock run too early after free-throw, not sure, so maybe it was clock problems as you said. Anyway Zadar blew their chances by own fault. Missed fts in decisive moment, very poor decisions in last possensions overall, including last one

Joško Poljak Fan
10-22-2014, 01:35 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. The referee wasn't sure weather Blassingame made a foul on Florence, took time for a videl-call and than decided it's a no-call. Zadar did lose a second there at least, you're right about that one.
Zadar is assembled from the best they could considering the circumstances, that being said I don't think they'll be very succesfull in ABA when visiting, they simply lack quality and as you said, that definately showed in the last minutes.

pohani komarac
10-22-2014, 04:27 PM
I was in arena. Problem happend one of 3 refs called 2ft for Cibona, while other 2 gave Kuridza 2+1. Kuridza missed FT and when Zadar started break ref who tought Kuridza has 2ft stoped game.

In the end they gave Zadar 8,9 secend wich was not for some reson visibale on TV, but clock in arena was on 8,9secends

Overall it was not such bad game. For me was great to see Lovre Basic dictating game and had several elite asists and moves. Many things were not visible on TV but finaly Croatia has talented PG. I expect him to explode in 2-3 years when his body matures

ThePeraCar
10-22-2014, 09:08 PM
when will be the results of 3rd round and overall?

AmonRA
10-22-2014, 09:12 PM
when will be the results of 3rd round and overall?
you are sleeping man :p

3rd round
http://www.interbasket.net/forums/showthread.php?26162-Adriatic-League-2014-2015&p=937581&viewfull=1#post937581

4th round
http://www.interbasket.net/forums/showthread.php?26162-Adriatic-League-2014-2015&p=938957&viewfull=1#post938957

ThePeraCar
10-22-2014, 09:17 PM
oh sorry :(

Milos.Djuric
10-23-2014, 01:21 PM
Szolnoki - Levski 1
Krka - MZT 1
Partizan - Metalac 1
M VIzura - Olimpija 1
Buducnost - Cibona 1
Zadar - C. Zvezda 2
Cedevita - Igokea 1

ThePeraCar
10-23-2014, 01:27 PM
Szolnoki - Levski 1
Krka - MZT 1
Partizan - Metalac 2
M VIzura - Olimpija 2
Buducnost - Cibona 1
Zadar - C. Zvezda 2
Cedevita - Igokea 1

Joško Poljak Fan
10-23-2014, 01:55 PM
Szolnoki - Levski 1
Szolnoki is a more consistant team, levski could count on a surprise but those 3point barrage surprises rarely occur on club level

Krka - MZT 1
Krka fall down in their game, hopefully they're not once again into that "win against Cedevita, lose against Široki" mode that has been way too frequent in the past 3 seasons

Partizan - Metalac 1
Partizan is slowely coming up with every additional player in their rotation they'll get better.

Mega Vizura - Olimpija 2
Mega will be relaxed, while it's Olimpija's job to perform in a game where they're a clear favourite before the game - first game where they have to show that character this season.

Buducnost - Cibona 1
Cibona gained quite a lot by Markota and Budućnost isn't performing on the level I've expected from them. Might as well be a close game.

Zadar - C. Zvezda 2
Zvezda's quality is just too much for Zadar, as long as Zvezda doesn't approach the game too relaxed.

Cedevita - Igokea 1
Anyone with any idea when Ukić is coming back? First his injury seemed completely innocent and now it's already been few weeks since

AmonRA
10-23-2014, 09:18 PM
Szolnoki - Levski 1
Krka - MZT 1
Partizan - Metalac 1
M VIzura - Olimpija 2
Buducnost - Cibona 1
Zadar - C. Zvezda 2
Cedevita - Igokea 1

ajzeja
10-24-2014, 07:53 AM
Szolnok - Levski 1
Krka - MZT 1
Partizan - Metalac 1
M VIzura - Olimpija 2
Buducnost - Cibona 1
Zadar - C. Zvezda 2
Cedevita - Igokea 1

ThePeraCar
10-25-2014, 09:37 PM
5 2+1 in 5 minutes...well its easy for Partizan to play with 8 players on the court :D i guess refs sometimes have to help lower budget teams

AmonRA
10-28-2014, 02:17 PM
5th round
Milos.Djuric 7/7
AmonRa 6/7
Josko 6/7
ajzeja 6/7
Exitche 5/7


overall
AmonRa 27/35
Josko 25/35
Milos.Djuric 23/28
Exitche 19/28
ajzeja 17/21

Khalid80
10-29-2014, 01:19 PM
Dion Dixon (190-PG-89, college: Cincinnati) who played in the Lebanese league last season with Homenetmen is on a tryout basis with MZT.. . I hope he eventually signs with them as he was a very good player in the Lebanese league and one of the top scorers.

http://www.abaliga.com/a8197/News/Dion_Dixon_is_a_new_MZT_player.html

AmonRA
10-31-2014, 02:24 PM
6th round
Levski -Krka 1
Olimpija-Metalac 1
Cibona-Szolnoki 1
MZT-Cedevita 2
Igokea-Partizan 2
Crvena zvezda-Budućnost 1
Mega Vizura-Zadar 1

Milos.Djuric
10-31-2014, 05:13 PM
Levski -Krka 2
Olimpija-Metalac 1
Cibona-Szolnoki 1
MZT-Cedevita 2
Igokea-Partizan 2
Crvena zvezda-Budućnost 1
Mega Vizura-Zadar 1

ThePeraCar
10-31-2014, 08:49 PM
Levski -Krka 1
Olimpija-Metalac 1
Cibona-Szolnoki 1
MZT-Cedevita 1
Igokea-Partizan 2
Crvena zvezda-Budućnost 2
Mega Vizura-Zadar 1

ajzeja
11-01-2014, 05:55 PM
Levski -Krka 2 :)))))


Olimpija-Metalac 1
Cibona-Szolnoki 2
MZT-Cedevita 1
Igokea-Partizan 1
Crvena zvezda-Budućnost 1
Mega Vizura-Zadar 1

Obina
11-02-2014, 10:23 PM
Showtime in Pionir.
http://gifyu.com/images/alejupc0b83.gif

Bobinator Marjanovic 17 rebounds. :)

AmonRA
11-03-2014, 11:01 AM
Olimpija :facepalm:

AmonRA
11-04-2014, 01:53 PM
6th round
Milos.Djuric 5/7
AmonRa 4/7
ajzeja 3/6
Exitche 2/7


overall
AmonRa 31/42
Milos.Djuric 28/35
Josko 25/35
Exitche 21/35
ajzeja 20/27

Khalid80
11-05-2014, 01:12 PM
Jordanian young talent and senior NT player Ahmad Al-Dwairi (210-C-93) was sent on loan to Mega Vizura in Serbia... Guy has great potential and is continuously improving.. There is big possibility that we might see him getting some playing time with the team soon... Ahmad has both Jordanian and Turkish passports and he was sent by one of the Turkish teams to Serbia since apparently Mega Vizura is known as one of the top teams for developing talents in Serbia...

Here is his picture with Jade Fattouh (the Lebanese assistant coach of Mega Vizura)

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Dr. Martin
11-06-2014, 02:05 PM
Zadar - Olimpija 2
Buducnost - M. Vizura 1
Partizan - MZT 1
Szolnoki - C. zvezda 2
Krka - Cibona 2
Metalac - Igokea 2
Cedevita - Levski 1

Dr. Martin
11-06-2014, 02:07 PM
My Fantasy Team... I am trying to buy young players :)

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Joško Poljak Fan
11-06-2014, 05:23 PM
Olimpija :facepalm:

facepalm is an understatement. Dissastrous attitude, still can't believe how they managed to lose this one.

Begić is rumoured to be very close to Efes instead of Krstić.

ajzeja
11-06-2014, 07:26 PM
Zadar - Olimpija 2
Buducnost - M. Vizura 1
Partizan - MZT 1
Szolnoki - C. zvezda 1
Krka - Cibona 1
Metalac - Igokea 2
Cedevita - Levski 1


http://www.sportando.com/en/europe/hungary/140163/perry-petty-leaves-virtus-roma-to-sign-with-szolnoki-olaj.html
"Perry Petty is leaving Virtus Roma to sign in Hungary with Szolnoki Olaj, 24Secunde reports.
The American point guard signed with Roma during the summer but he has never played with Roma.
Petty played last season with Minsk and Pesaro."

AmonRA
11-07-2014, 08:28 AM
Zadar - Olimpija 2
Buducnost - M. Vizura 1
Partizan - MZT 1
Szolnoki - C. zvezda 2
Krka - Cibona 1
Metalac - Igokea 2
Cedevita - Levski 1

Joško Poljak Fan
11-08-2014, 06:07 PM
Hope I'm not too late on first two games

Zadar - Olimpija 2
Buducnost - M. Vizura 1
Partizan - MZT 1
Szolnoki - C. zvezda 2
Krka - Cibona 1
Metalac - Igokea 2
Cedevita - Levski 1

AmonRA
11-09-2014, 04:40 PM
http://youtu.be/mS7qqKwAOXU

ajzeja
11-10-2014, 09:53 AM
Zvezda made 82% three point percent in the first 30 minuten. We were shocked.

In the end, the three shoot percent (69%) was better than FG2.
I rarely see such thing.

Milos.Djuric
11-10-2014, 12:45 PM
Hey Dr. Martin, glad to see you back! :)

This round:
Cedevita - Levski 1

If I forgot about the rest, at least let me get this one :D (I lost at least 4 points in this round, maybe I would make a mistake on Krka and Metalac, but damn) :D
Zvezda has such a powerful team that it just steamrolls through it's opponents. From one perspective it would be nice if it stays like that until the end of season, but from the perspective that the competitiveness of the league is really down, I'm not happy.

@Josko, any word of Begic leaving for Efes? Since the first news a week ago, haven't seen anything new on this front.

Dr. Martin
11-10-2014, 01:53 PM
Hey Dr. Martin, glad to see you back! :)

It's good to be back :)
The company I work for blocked the web-site for a while but its good to go :)

MZT update - They suck put some money against them next round if Muta Nikolic doesn't arrive in Skopje.

MKD League update - Rabotnicki was supposed to be in ABA this season, they build much better team then MZT but they didn't get the invite. Instead of ABA league they end up in 3rd league because they didn't finish the game against MZT, it was 51-35 when the refs decided to empty the stands where Rabotnicki fans were standing and the guests (MZT Fans) to stay until the end of the game. Rabotnicki refused to continue. I guess they didn't know that if they don't play they will end up in 3rd league.

Milos.Djuric
11-10-2014, 02:59 PM
MKD League update - Rabotnicki was supposed to be in ABA this season, they build much better team then MZT but they didn't get the invite. Instead of ABA league they end up in 3rd league because they didn't finish the game against MZT, it was 51-35 when the refs decided to empty the stands where Rabotnicki fans were standing and the guests (MZT Fans) to stay until the end of the game. Rabotnicki refused to continue. I guess they didn't know that if they don't play they will end up in 3rd league.

That's crap, I mean if you refuse to continue you get re-delegated into the 3rd league? That's so stupid, you hurt the team and because this team has a decent roster you hurt the higher league much more. On the other hand, they should have known the rule, but from what you described it seems like they relegated 1998 Malone/Stockton Utah.

Joško Poljak Fan
11-10-2014, 04:35 PM
@Josko, any word of Begic leaving for Efes? Since the first news a week ago, haven't seen anything new on this front.
Nothing certain thus far. Mirza isn't traveling to Riga on eurocup match, officialy due to personal reasons, that might be indicating something is in the air. We'll see. I'm glad he came at least for those few games though.

I almost started to bash Krka for their game against Cibona, but looks like they're injury plagued beyond normal not even with 10 players fully participating on practices. Cibona did gain a whole lot with Markota, they're immediately one level better team than they were before. But that can change pretty quick in case Blassingame is really departuring in december.

@Dr. Martin, terrible to hear about Rabotnički. Basketball is only loosing on such trivial issues.

AmonRA
11-11-2014, 04:07 PM
7th round
Dr.Martin 6/7
AmonRa 5/7
ajzeja 5/7
Josko 5/7
Milos.Djuric 1/1


overall
AmonRa 36/49
Josko 30/42
Milos.Djuric 29/36
ajzeja 25/34
Exitche 21/35
Dr. Martin 6/7

Dr. Martin
11-12-2014, 05:48 AM
That's crap, I mean if you refuse to continue you get re-delegated into the 3rd league? That's so stupid, you hurt the team and because this team has a decent roster you hurt the higher league much more. On the other hand, they should have known the rule, but from what you described it seems like they relegated 1998 Malone/Stockton Utah.

The Management probably didn't know, if they knew they would finish the game, they were leading 51-35. And yeah definitely not Utah 1998 :)

Kozuv is going to win the tittle if Rabotnicki end up in 3rd league...

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/FYR-Macedonia/KK_Kozuv_Gevgelija/4968


Put your money on Metalac against Metalski Zavod Tito, Bobi Mitev will be their coach, Muta Nokolic is not coming I guess...

Partizan looking better ...

Dr. Martin
11-12-2014, 05:57 AM
My ABA team looking better...

I would sell Ive Ivanov and buy Sobin but not enough money :)

I can see AirBall and AmonRa have good teams but they don't want to share their rosters... :)

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AmonRA
11-12-2014, 04:32 PM
My ABA team looking better...

I would sell Ive Ivanov and buy Sobin but not enough money :)

I can see AirBall and AmonRa have good teams but they don't want to share their rosters... :)

I don't play any fantasy(neither Aba or EL), only IBN EL prediction;)

AmonRA
11-12-2014, 07:11 PM
8th round
Olimpija-Igokea 1
Levski-Partizan 2
Zadar-Budućnost 2
Mega Vizura-Szolnoki 1
Crvena zvezda-Krka 1
Cibona : Cedevita 2
MZT - Metalac 1

Dr. Martin
11-13-2014, 06:47 AM
I don't play any fantasy(neither Aba or EL), only IBN EL prediction;)

User name AmenRa is 41st, .... AirBall is 6th, if that's the AirBall we know...

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Dr. Martin
11-13-2014, 06:50 AM
8th round
Olimpija - Igokea 1
Levski - Partizan 2
Zadar - Budućnost 2
Mega Vizura - Szolnoki 1
Crvena zvezda - Krka 1
Cibona - Cedevita 1
MZT - Metalac 2

ajzeja
11-13-2014, 10:32 AM
8th round
Olimpija - Igokea 1
Levski - Partizan 2
Zadar - Budućnost 2
Mega Vizura - Szolnoki 2
Crvena zvezda - Krka 1
Cibona - Cedevita 2
MZT - Metalac 1

AmonRA
11-13-2014, 01:32 PM
User name AmenRa is 41st, .... AirBall is 6th, if that's the AirBall we know...

74157416

Iam AmonRa not AmenRa :D

Joško Poljak Fan
11-13-2014, 01:46 PM
Olimpija - Igokea 1
Olimpija loosing this kind of games hurts the attendance by a lot, it's perfectly viable for them to lack intensity once again, however it's about time they'd learn some stuff by now.

Levski - Partizan 2
Mačvan finaly in for Partizan, I don't expect them to be fully back on track immediately, however they should compete with Levski. Bulgarians aren't to be underestimated, few 3 pointers dropping in can be the whole difference they need to surprise.

Zadar - Budućnost 1
Zadar is a good team at home, while Budućnost roster is relatively impressive for this league I am still wondering what the hell are they doing in eurocup? Lack of interest for the competition? They aren't out of chances for the second round yet, however I expected a lot more from them to be honest. Haven't seen them since the beginning of the season, but if eurocup is the reality for them, they are imo going to have a tough time in Zadar.

Mega Vizura - Szolnoki 1
Mega is playing home while being stronger team along.

Crvena zvezda - Krka 1
Without even mentioning the big quality difference, Krka turned into a hospital in recent time, i'm not exactly up to date about who'll play and who won't, but would be surprised if everyone would be playing.

Cibona - Cedevita 2
Cibona is improved, Markota helps them a lot, Van Oostrum was a big dissapointment and Ilievski although slowely nearing 40ies can't be as bad. However Cedevita has Ukić back and they seem to be a completely different team that way.

MZT - Metalac 1
I guess MZT has the edge on their home court

Joško Poljak Fan
11-14-2014, 09:49 PM
Olimpija barely got through 72-70, 24-10 in the last quarter, but hey, a win is a win. Wouldn't mind if Olimpija would make things a bit easier for themselves and enter the game with the same attitude vs. Zenit as well as Igokea, as the game wouldn't be close for that long.

ajzeja
11-17-2014, 04:07 PM
It was any antecedent of incident in Levski-Partizan or only Cska fans in the away sector?

AmonRA
11-17-2014, 10:12 PM
8th round
ajzeja 6/7
Dr.Martin 5/7
AmonRa 5/7
Josko 4/7



overall
AmonRa 41/56
Josko 34/49
ajzeja 31/41
Milos.Djuric 29/36
Exitche 21/35
Dr. Martin 11/14

Joško Poljak Fan
11-17-2014, 11:55 PM
It was any antecedent of incident in Levski-Partizan or only Cska fans in the away sector?
As far as I understood there were some fans of Partizan there while I did read somewhere Levski fans were fighting among themselves. I've got no clue what was actualy going on.

Congrats for beating Mega on the road. One more thing is it just me, or is Szolnoki playing much more intense in eurocup?

ajzeja
11-18-2014, 02:03 PM
As far as I understood there were some fans of Partizan there while I did read somewhere Levski fans were fighting among themselves. I've got no clue what was actualy going on.

Congrats for beating Mega on the road. One more thing is it just me, or is Szolnoki playing much more intense in eurocup?

Thanks for grat.

Unfortunately if we don't win tommorrow in Saint Petersburg (!) then we have only mathematical chance to step to the next round.
I heard a new player will come in some days, but it seems too late.

AmonRA
11-19-2014, 10:58 AM
9th Round

Szolnoki-Zadar 1
Krka-Mega 1
Budućnost-Olimpija 1
Metalac-Levski 1
Igokea-MZT 1
Partizan-Cibona 1
Cedevita-Crvena zvezda 2

Dr. Martin
11-20-2014, 06:05 AM
9th Round

Szolnoki-Zadar 1
Krka-Mega 2
Budućnost-Olimpija 1
Metalac-Levski 1
Igokea-MZT 1 All in on this one. I told you guys put some money on Metalac but nobody listen :)
Partizan-Cibona 1
Cedevita-Crvena zvezda 2

Dr. Martin
11-20-2014, 06:09 AM
MZT lost once again... and Rabotnicki was saved, they will continue to play in MKD First league.

http://www.eurobasket.com/FYR-Macedonia/basketball.asp

ajzeja
11-20-2014, 03:44 PM
Olaj-Zadar 1
Krka-Mega 1
Budućnost-Olimpija 1
Metalac-Levski 1
Igokea-MZT 1
Partizan-Cibona 1
Cedevita-Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
11-22-2014, 12:35 PM
This is a round with a potential to get everything wrong :)

Olaj-Zadar 1
Zadar is a whole level weaker team on the road

Krka-Mega 2
Krka has too many injuries to be considered as a favourite. Armstead, Hukić and of course Lapornik, while Wangmeme and Booker will mostlikely be forced to play although they're not 100%.

Budućnost-Olimpija 1
As much as I wish the opposite, 4 players missing for Olimpija (Murič, Salin, Rupnik out of the best lineup) is probably just enough for Budućnost's chances to improve even further.

Metalac-Levski 1
Metalac found their pace after those 5 consecutive losses

Igokea-MZT 1

Partizan-Cibona 2
Partizan improved as of late, however the only team that improved more from the start of the season is Cibona

Cedevita-Crvena zvezda 2
Should be an interesting derby with Zvezda as a favourite, but without the easy walk in the park most consider this game to be for them.

ajzeja
11-23-2014, 03:05 PM
Teddy Gipson is in the Olaj.
He played in the Igokea last year.

ajzeja
11-24-2014, 12:41 PM
Is there any list of team's budget?
I found one but this was two years ago.

Dr. Martin
11-25-2014, 09:50 AM
9th Round

Igokea-MZT 1 All in on this one. I told you guys put some money on Metalac but nobody listen :)


Shut up Martin!

Joško Poljak Fan
11-25-2014, 10:38 AM
Is there any list of team's budget?
I found one but this was two years ago.
I created a thread in euroleague section (http://www.interbasket.net/forums/showthread.php?26646-European-clubs-budget-2014-2015) but so far there have been relatively few answerse. The thread needs to be constantly bumped up :)

Olimpija had 4.1 million € budget a year ago (with 4.8M € or so incomes), with a 900k€ for first team as majority of funds are going for old debts as the consequence of the "golden" 95-04 era. This season nothing official was published, Union brewery additionaly decreased their investment, potentialy few others as well so basicaly this team by a guess is somewhere in the 600k-700k range. If the debts would finaly be repayed (this saga should afterall end at some point), hopefully with some new sponsors Olimpija should finaly get back on track attacking the euroleague spots.

@Dr.Martin, at least you made a mistake in the positive way :)

AmonRA
11-25-2014, 12:35 PM
9th round
Dr.Martin 6/7
ajzeja 5/7
AmonRa 5/7
Josko 5/7



overall
AmonRa 46/63
Josko 39/56
ajzeja 36/48
Milos.Djuric 29/36
Exitche 21/35
Dr. Martin 17/21

Dr. Martin
11-26-2014, 05:13 AM
%

AmonRa 73.02%
Josko 69.64%
Ajzeja 75.00%
Milos.Djuric 80.56%
Exitche 60.00%
Dr. Martin 80.95%

Dr. Martin
11-26-2014, 05:20 AM
Now all my players were born in the 90's

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Dr. Martin
11-27-2014, 10:12 AM
Round 10:

Zadar - Krka 2
Olimpija - MZT 2
Buducnost - Szolnoki 1
Igokea - Levski 1
Cibona - Metalac 1
C. zvezda - Partizan 1
Mega - Cedevita 1

AmonRA
11-28-2014, 08:32 PM
Round 10:

Zadar - Krka 2
Olimpija - MZT 1
Buducnost - Szolnoki 1
Igokea - Levski 1
Cibona - Metalac 1
C. zvezda - Partizan 1
Mega - Cedevita 2

ajzeja
11-28-2014, 08:34 PM
Zadar - Krka 2
Olimpija - MZT 2
Buducnost - Szolnok 1
Igokea - Levski 1
Cibona - Metalac 1
C. zvezda - Partizan 1
Mega - Cedevita 2

Joško Poljak Fan
11-29-2014, 02:47 PM
Zadar - Krka 1
Olimpija - MZT 1
Buducnost - Szolnok 1
Igokea - Levski 1
Cibona - Metalac 1
C. zvezda - Partizan 1
Mega - Cedevita 2

AmonRA
11-30-2014, 09:21 PM
10-0 in ABA league, so far...
MWill didnt played on his level and he shoot very bad for 3(1/7), but that one was sweet as candy..:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HB2WxQEnTI

AmonRA
12-02-2014, 09:33 AM
10th round
Josko 7/7
AmonRa 6/7
ajzeja 5/7
Dr.Martin 4/7

overall
AmonRa 52/70 74,3%
Josko 46/62 74,2%
ajzeja 41/55 74,5%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Dr. Martin 21/28 75%
Exitche 21/35 60%

AmonRA
12-02-2014, 09:34 AM
11th round
Olimpija-Szolnoki 1
Krka-Budućnost 2
Igokea-Cibona 2
MZT-Levski 1
Partizan-Mega 1
Cedevita-Zadar 1
Metalac-Crvena zvezda 2

Dr. Martin
12-03-2014, 01:09 PM
11th round
Olimpija-Szolnoki 2
Krka-Budućnost 1
Igokea-Cibona 1
MZT-Levski 1
Partizan-Mega 1
Cedevita-Zadar 1
Metalac-Crvena Zvezda 2

ajzeja
12-05-2014, 10:10 AM
11th round
Olimpija-Olaj 2
Krka-Budućnost 2
Igokea-Cibona 1
MZT-Levski 1
Partizan-Mega 1
Cedevita-Zadar 1
Metalac-Crvena zvezda 2

Joško Poljak Fan
12-06-2014, 04:55 PM
damnit, too late for the first game again. Olimpija and Szolnoki already played on wednesday in eurocup. Olimpija won easily that time, however as most predicted this second game so far is nothing like that. Szolnoki has some big issues with injuries and at the end I believe their shorter bench will probably cost them a win.

Krka-Budućnost 2
Budućnost surely seems stronger than most Slovenian league teams Krka lost to recently.

Igokea-Cibona 2
MZT-Levski 1
Partizan-Mega 1
Cedevita-Zadar 1
Metalac-Crvena zvezda 2

AmonRA
12-07-2014, 08:23 PM
sick psycho strikes again


http://youtu.be/DUuW8xkld9A

AmonRA
12-09-2014, 05:05 PM
11th round
AmonRa 6/7
Josko 5/6
ajzeja 4/7
Dr.Martin 3/7

overall
AmonRa 58/77 75,3%
Josko 51/68 75%
ajzeja 45/62 72,6%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Dr. Martin 24/35 68,6%
Exitche 21/35 60%

AmonRA
12-09-2014, 05:07 PM
12th round
Union-Levski 1
Szolnoki-Krka 2
Zadar-Partizan 2
Mega-Metalac 1
Cibona-MZT 1
Budućnost-Cedevita 1
Crvena zvezda-Igokea 1

ajzeja
12-12-2014, 05:45 PM
12th round
Union-Levski 1
Olaj-Krka 1
Zadar-Partizan 2
Mega-Metalac 1
Cibona-MZT 1
Budućnost-Cedevita 1
Crvena zvezda-Igokea 1

Dr. Martin
12-13-2014, 06:07 AM
12th round
Olimpija-Levski 1
Szolnoki-Krka 2
Zadar-Partizan 2
Mega-Metalac 2
Cibona-MZT 1
Budućnost-Cedevita 1
Crvena zvezda-Igokea 1

AmonRA
12-16-2014, 09:16 AM
12th round
AmonRa 5/7
ajzeja 5/7
Dr.Martin 3/7

overall
AmonRa 63/84 75%
Josko 51/68 75%
ajzeja 50/69 72,5%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Dr. Martin 27/42 64,3%
Exitche 21/35 60%

AmonRA
12-16-2014, 09:20 AM
13th round
Igokea-Mega 1
Levski-Cibona 2
Krka-Union Olimpija 2
Metalac-Zadar 1
Cedevita-Szolnoki 1
Partizan-Budućnost 2
MZT-Crvena zvezda 2

Dr. Martin
12-18-2014, 06:09 AM
13th round
Igokea-Mega 2
Levski-Cibona 1
Krka-Union Olimpija 1
Metalac-Zadar 1
Cedevita-Szolnoki 1
Partizan-Budućnost 1
MZT-Crvena zvezda 2

Dr. Martin
12-19-2014, 05:06 AM
Predrag Samardziski signed for MZT, also Stefan Sinovec is expected to sign...


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Joško Poljak Fan
12-19-2014, 04:25 PM
Igokea-Mega 1
Levski-Cibona 2
Krka-Union Olimpija 2
Metalac-Zadar 1
Cedevita-Szolnoki 1
Partizan-Budućnost 2
MZT-Crvena zvezda 2

AmonRA
12-22-2014, 09:15 PM
Zvezda set all time ABA league record in consecutive wins from the beginning of the season! 13th win in a row:cool:

AmonRA
12-22-2014, 09:38 PM
13th round
AmonRa 5/7
Josko 5/7
Dr.Martin 3/7

overall
AmonRa 68/91 74,7%
Josko 56/75 74,7%
ajzeja 50/69 72,5%
Dr. Martin 30/49 61,2%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Exitche 21/35 60%

AmonRA
12-22-2014, 09:42 PM
14th round(midweek round, starts tomorrow)

Cedevita-Krka 1
Olimpija-Cibona 1
Partizan-Szolnoki 1
Igokea-Zadar 1
Levski-Crvena zvezda Telekom 2
Metalac-Budućnost 2
MZT-Mega 2

ajzeja
12-22-2014, 09:43 PM
Stefan Sinovec went to Skopje and Michael Lee (ex-Radnick) signed with Olaj.

ajzeja
12-22-2014, 09:44 PM
Cedevita-Krka 1
Olimpija-Cibona 1
Partizan-Szolnoki 1
Igokea-Zadar 1
Levski-Crvena zvezda Telekom 2
Metalac-Budućnost 2
MZT-Mega 1

AmonRA
12-22-2014, 09:50 PM
Stefan Sinovec went to Skopje and Michael Lee (ex-Radnick) signed with Olaj.

He will not play tomorrow?

ajzeja
12-23-2014, 08:22 AM
He will not play tomorrow?

As I know, he's first match will be in 9th of January.

Joško Poljak Fan
12-23-2014, 04:41 PM
Cedevita-Krka 2
Olimpija-Cibona 1
Partizan-Szolnoki 1
Igokea-Zadar 2
Levski-Crvena zvezda Telekom 2
Metalac-Budućnost 2
MZT-Mega 2

Dr. Martin
12-24-2014, 01:46 PM
Metalac-Budućnost 1
MZT-Mega 1

AmonRA
12-25-2014, 09:55 PM
14th round
ajzeja 5/7
AmonRa 4/7
Josko 2/7
Dr.Martin 2/2


overall
AmonRa 72/98 73,5%
Josko 58/82 70,7%
ajzeja 55/76 72,4%
Dr. Martin 32/51 62,7%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Exitche 21/35 60%

AmonRA
12-25-2014, 09:57 PM
15th round
Crvena zvezda-Cibona 1
Cedevita-Union Olimpija 1
Zadar-MZT 1
Krka-Partizan 1
Budućnost-Igokea 1
Mega-Levski 1
Metalac-Szolnoki 2

Dr. Martin
12-26-2014, 03:43 AM
14th round
ajzeja 5/7
AmonRa 4/7
Josko 2/7
Dr.Martin 1/2


overall
AmonRa 72/98 73,5%
Josko 58/82 70,7%
ajzeja 55/76 72,4%
Dr. Martin 31/51 60,8%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Exitche 21/35 60%

AmonRa, I am 2/2 this round :D

Dr. Martin
12-26-2014, 03:44 AM
15th round
Crvena zvezda-Cibona 1
Cedevita-Union Olimpija 1
Zadar-MZT 2
Krka-Partizan 2
Budućnost-Igokea 1
Mega-Levski 1
Metalac-Szolnoki 1

AmonRA
12-26-2014, 07:58 AM
AmonRa, I am 2/2 this round :D

my bad, I correct it :p

ajzeja
12-27-2014, 02:45 PM
Crvena zvezda-Cibona 1
Cedevita-Union Olimpija 1
Zadar-MZT 1
Krka-Partizan 1
Budućnost-Igokea 1
Mega-Levski 1
Metalac-Szolnoki 2

ajzeja
12-29-2014, 09:30 AM
He will not play tomorrow?

He got the licence and the medical document and will play today already.

AmonRA
12-29-2014, 09:48 PM
15th round
Dr.Martin 6/7
ajzeja 5/7
AmonRa 5/7



overall
AmonRa 77/105 73,3%
ajzeja 60/83 72,3%
Josko 58/82 70,7%
Dr. Martin 38/58 65,5%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Exitche 21/35 60%

AmonRA
12-29-2014, 09:51 PM
16th round
Levski-Zadar 2
Metalac-Krka 2
Igokea-Szolnoki 1
Partizan-Cedevita 1
Union-Crvena zvezda 2
MZT-Budućnost 1
Cibona-Mega 1

Happy hoiidays and all the best in new year! :)

Dr. Martin
12-30-2014, 03:48 AM
16th round
Levski-Zadar 2 - Levski was good last year, they have financial problems this year, it was the worst time for then to play in ABA, hopefully next year we will see Lokoil Academik
Metalac-Krka 1 - Metalac is playing good at home, Krka maybe better team but I would like Metalac to win this one
Igokea-Szolnoki 1 - Igokea getting better
Partizan-Cedevita 1 - For Partizan is a must, they always win in that kind of situation
Union-Crvena zvezda 2 - Zvezda is Zvezda, Rebic will play 15 min again
MZT-Budućnost 2 - MZT getting better, still something is missing, a 3 point shooter, if Stojanovski played maybe I would put 1. Buducnost better this time
Cibona-Mega 1 - Mega can always surprise, not sure about this time

Happy Holidays!

Dr. Martin
12-31-2014, 03:45 AM
New Years wish for MZT - Brandon Heath
Brandon plays for Levski Sofia, he is injured at the moment it is expected to start playing in February.

ajzeja
01-03-2015, 03:41 PM
Happy new year, guys! :)

16th round
Levski-Zadar 2
Metalac-Krka 1
Igokea-Szolnok 2
Partizan-Cedevita 2
Union-Crvena zvezda 2
MZT-Budućnost 2
Cibona-Mega 1

Joško Poljak Fan
01-03-2015, 04:51 PM
Happy new year to everyone :)

16th round
Levski-Zadar 1
Metalac-Krka 2
Igokea-Szolnok 1
Partizan-Cedevita 2
Union-Crvena zvezda 2
MZT-Budućnost 2
Cibona-Mega 2

TechnicalFaul
01-04-2015, 08:45 AM
Is it possible to join the thread ? I know it's a bit late but just for fun ;)

TechnicalFaul
01-04-2015, 08:47 AM
Is it possible to join the thread ? I know it's a bit late but just for fun ;)

If possible my results for today and tomorrow
Levski-Zadar 2
Partizan-Cedevita 2
Union-Crvena zvezda 2
MZT-Budućnost 2
Cibona-Mega 1

Joško Poljak Fan
01-04-2015, 11:44 AM
Is it possible to join the thread ? I know it's a bit late but just for fun ;)
Of course man :) welcome


Krka is now underperforming heavily. No idea in offense, often relying too much on isolation through Armstead, hesitating on shots and forcing up other shots at the same time. As ussual in the last few seasons, they're loosing games where they've objectively got quality advantage, yet people are getting used to that by now that they're rightfully not considered as a favorite against Metalac, which probably has a third of Krka's budget or so.
I know they'll get fired up for the national championship once again, but honestly if it wasn't for that only goal Krka seems to appreciate going with

C: Polutak
PF: Bolčina
SF: Kastrati, Ritlop
SG: Mulalič, Lapornik, Zatežič
PG: Rojc

adding some other native players as Bratož, Zupan and 2 big bodies under the rim, I've got a feeling this half cheaper and younger team could at the end win just as much games as some veteran filled team, assembled mostly for the national championship, just in case they'd actualy show some of that fighting spirit as young players ussualy do. And even if they wouldn't, I prefer watching young teams to inneficient veteran ones any day.

Szolnoki won against Igokea on the road. I could've seen that one coming. Have to take more time for writing down predictions next round :)

Olimpija - Zvezda; let's see on which point is Olimpija right now after foolishly loosing 3 in a row. It sounds weird, but Rupnik really helped the team when he was healthy, I expect some tough pressure on Marinović and Marinelli, which basicaly means Olimpija's organisation will be hurt substantialy. The only viable strategy I could see is Kanačević drawing Marjanović out repeatedly and somewhat try to compensate in defense with double teams, battleing for space etc. Without Begić this is a whole different story when Bobi is concerned.

AmonRA
01-04-2015, 01:07 PM
Is it possible to join the thread ? I know it's a bit late but just for fun ;)
Of course it's possible, we all are here for fun...
welcome and enjoy in game :D

AmonRA
01-05-2015, 11:15 PM
16th round
Dr.Martin 5/6
ajzeja 5/6
TehnicalFaul 3/4
AmonRa 3/6
Josko 3/6


overall
AmonRa 80/111 72,1%
ajzeja 65/89 73%
Josko 61/88 69,3%
Dr. Martin 43/64 67,2%
Milos.Djuric 29/36 80,6%
Exitche 21/35 60%
TehnicalFaul 3/4 75%

AmonRA
01-05-2015, 11:18 PM
17th round
Szolnoki-MZT 1
Krka-Igokea 1
Budućnost-Levski 1
Partizan-Olimpija 1
Metalac-Cedevita 2
Mega-Crvena zvezda 2
Zadar-Cibona 2

Khalid80
01-06-2015, 09:15 AM
Serbian coach Vlada Vukoicic who most recently was coaching MZT Skopje signed with Tadamon in the Lebanese League.

ajzeja
01-07-2015, 05:47 PM
Guys, what happened with Radnicki?
I checked the standings of KLS and looked for them.
Really are they in third league?

AmonRA
01-07-2015, 09:44 PM
unfortunately, they don't exist anymore