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serbianhoops
10-19-2013, 12:13 PM
Serbian combo forward Nemanja Miscevic (200 1994)‚ who plays for hungarian squad Szedeak since last september‚ received citizenship of Hungary and should play for Hungary U20's national team.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvr8giTUnqY

Strong build Miscevic (105kg now) averaged 15 points (on 63% 2PFG & 39% 3PFG)‚ 6.5 rebounds and 1.4 ass per game for Vojvodina Srbijagas U19 squad in last year's Junior League of Serbia.

serbianhoops
10-19-2013, 12:35 PM
Depending on financial resources‚ Bosnia & Herzegovina intends to relaunch its U20 national team and to host the U20 B division competition in Sarajevo.

rikhardur
10-20-2013, 02:42 AM
Serbian combo forward Nemanja Miscevic (200 1994)‚ who plays for hungarian squad Szedeak since last september‚ received citizenship of Hungary and should play for Hungary U20's national team.
Wow didn't know Hungary was into that kind of business too. What did the Serbian federation say about this?

Levenspiel
10-20-2013, 12:34 PM
Wow didn't know Hungary was into that kind of business too. What did the Serbian federation say about this?
Nah, almost everybody is doing that. Some more some less, some under different pretext, but eventually people from different ethnicity/country etc represent other nations.

After the border changes, there are Serbians left within Hungary, and much more Hungarians left within Serbia. From time to time, you can see Hungarian ethnic sportsmen/women representing Yugoslavia/Serbia (and Romania for that matter), and vice versa. Monica Seles (Szeles Mónika) comes to mind directly, but there are some others.

mbenga
06-10-2014, 12:13 PM
up.
So any idea of possible rosters? I assume Hezonja and Saric won't play. Any other notable absences?
In Spain none signicant, we should be one of the contenders, slid roster overall and the 3 headed monster of Hernangomez-Diop-Saiz should finally show some dominance.

pohani komarac
06-10-2014, 07:07 PM
up.
So any idea of possible rosters? I assume Hezonja and Saric won't play. Any other notable absences?
In Spain none signicant, we should be one of the contenders, slid roster overall and the 3 headed monster of Hernangomez-Diop-Saiz should finally show some dominance.

Micic, Antetokounmpo, Nurkic...

as usual best U-20 players missing.

mbenga
06-21-2014, 03:19 PM
Micic, Antetokounmpo, Nurkic...

as usual best U-20 players missing.

Diop skips the tournament as will focus this summer on working in his body and trying to bulk up.
Any word on Porzingis?

Straight forward
06-21-2014, 11:11 PM
Liths all here. Since Sarič is out - only the gold is the goal surely. I mean this team really has a lot of fireworks for the offense.

Srle
06-23-2014, 09:30 PM
Dejan Todorovic of Unicaja will debute for Serbia this summer :) Even with the absences of very important players such as Micic and Guduric , we should be in the contention for the title , led by Jokic,Todorovic,Jankovic etc

christodoulou76
06-30-2014, 11:38 AM
The talented Olympiacos trio of Papapetrou, Christodoulou and Agravanis has finally been incorporated into the Greek U-20 team after weeks of wrangling between the Greek Federation and Olympiacos management over player insurance coverage. If the new additions are healthy and in form, the final Greek roster might look something like this:

Bochoridis, Spyridonidis
Christodoulou, Liapis, Poulianitis
Papapetrou, Siologkas
Agravanis, Kouzeloglou
Diamantakos, Kamberidis, Maragkos

This team could potentially be a medal contender, despite the absence of Antetokounmpo, unless the team's chemistry has been irreparably damaged by the Olympiacos hold-out.

Joško Poljak Fan
06-30-2014, 12:24 PM
Slovenia lost Gregor Hrovat (195cm, SG) for 6 weeks due to broken wrist, quite a blow as he was our best player in the last U20 already

Players to watch are both 95' PG's Rebec and Nikolič, most of the time will be playing at the same time, Kastrati on SF and Bolčina at C.
Especialy Rebec is intriguing, only 180 cm tall which divided people in our basketball on two sides, one claiming he'll never become an euroleague level PG and the other saying he already was prognosed not being able to take the next step at every level so far, yet prooved the sceptics wrong every time.
With unstable Bolčina and as ussualy short under the rim, I don't think this team would end up in the upper half.

prep games:
Italy - Slovenia 77:88 (16:26, 25:22, 20:19, 16:21)
Rebec 28, Nikolič 20, Kastrati 15

Slovenia - Hungary 58:61 (9:22, 18:8, 15:21, 16:10)
Rebec 17, Nikolič 10

Sweden - Slovenia 65:74 (17:21, 17:14, 13:14, 18:25)
Kastrati 19, Rebec 16, Nikolič 14


Papapetrou, Agravanis and Diamantakos - sounds pretty nice to me nevermind Ante is missing

Dreamcatcher
06-30-2014, 03:36 PM
Slovenia lost Gregor Hrovat (195cm, SG) for 6 weeks due to broken wrist, quite a blow as he was our best player in the last U20 already

Players to watch are both 95' PG's Rebec and Nikolič, most of the time will be playing at the same time, Kastrati on SF and Bolčina at C.
Especialy Rebec is intriguing, only 180 cm tall which divided people in our basketball on two sides, one claiming he'll never become an euroleague level PG and the other saying he already was prognosed not being able to take the next step at every level so far, yet prooved the sceptics wrong every time.
With unstable Bolčina and as ussualy short under the rim, I don't think this team would end up in the upper half.

prep games:
Italy - Slovenia 77:88 (16:26, 25:22, 20:19, 16:21)
Rebec 28, Nikolič 20, Kastrati 15

Slovenia - Hungary 58:61 (9:22, 18:8, 15:21, 16:10)
Rebec 17, Nikolič 10

Sweden - Slovenia 65:74 (17:21, 17:14, 13:14, 18:25)
Kastrati 19, Rebec 16, Nikolič 14


Papapetrou, Agravanis and Diamantakos - sounds pretty nice to me nevermind Ante is missing

His stats http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.playerID_86237.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2013.roundID_9350.teamID_2154.ht ml

Dimec stats were much more impressive http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.playerID_78231.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2013.roundID_9350.teamID_2154.ht ml

You are not fooling me :cool:

Joško Poljak Fan
06-30-2014, 04:35 PM
Dimec is soft, has lower vertical than an average wheelchair basketball player and might as well be just about lucky the ball bounced from his arms into the basket a couple of times :cool:
On a serious note from the games I've seen evaluating both offensive and defensive end, Hrovat had a bigger on court impact untill he got injured. But okay, I admit that statement could be argued about since I am a bit angry about Dimec's development within the last season or two.

carlo
07-03-2014, 05:28 PM
Italy lost to Sweden 64-62 in a prep game played in Trieste (ITA).

Mirco Turel topped Italy with 19 pts, Johan Löfberg and Niklas Larsson scored 19 and 18 pts for the winners.

carlo
07-05-2014, 07:44 AM
Crete tournament (GRE):

D1 - Spain vs France 53-50, Greece vs Czech Republic 76-63

D2 - Spain vs Czech Republic 80-49, France vs Greece 75-71

christodoulou76
07-05-2014, 09:52 AM
Crete tournament (GRE):

D1 - Spain vs France 53-50, Greece vs Czech Republic 76-63

D2 - Spain vs Czech Republic 80-49, France vs Greece 75-71

Some stats:
France-Greece 75-71 (Dallo 20, Jaiteh 18, Sene 12; Christodoulou 14, Diamantakos 12, Bochoridis 11)
Greece-Czech Republic 76-63 (Papapetrou 17, Bochoridis 14, Kamberidis 11; Peterka 15, Festr 15, Slanina 14)

christodoulou76
07-05-2014, 06:39 PM
Crete tournament (GRE):

D3 - Czech Republic vs France 60-62, Spain vs Greece 67-55 (Abalde 12, Brizuela 11, Saiz 11; Bochoridis 17, Papapetrou 11, Kouzeloglou 11)

christodoulou76
07-05-2014, 07:22 PM
Turgut Atakol Tournament (late June):
Final: Serbia-Bulgaria 87-70
3rd Place Game: Turkey-France 75-73
5th Place Game: Russia-Montenegro 83-47
7th Place Game: Germany-Poland 66-59

GEORGE_4
07-05-2014, 07:22 PM
Serbian NT for EC U20 2014:

Mladen Djordjević (Crnokosa), Nikol Rebić (Crvena zvezda), Jovan Novak (Radnički), Ognjen Jaramaz (Mega Vizura), Stefan Pot (Vojvodina), Petar Aranitović (Partizan), Ognjen Dobrić (FMP), Mihajlo Andrić (Partizan), Djordje Kaplanović (FMP), Nikola Janković (Belgija), Marko Tejić (Crvena zvezda), Djoko Šalić (Partizan)


I think Šalić played only one game in preparation...

christodoulou76
07-05-2014, 07:37 PM
Standings Prediction:
1. Serbia
2. Spain
3. France
4. Lithuania
5. Greece
6. Turkey
7. Russia
8. Bulgaria
9. Germany
10. Croatia
11. Czech Republic
12. Latvia

Migelitas
07-06-2014, 02:28 PM
LTU U20

Tomas Dimša 1994 195 Kauno „Žalgiris“
Jokūbas Gintvainis 1994 191 Panevėžio „Lietkabelis“
Benas Griciūnas 1994 210 Auburno universitetas (JAV)
Marius Grigonis 1994 198 Huenos „Huesca“ (Ispanija)
Augustinas Jankaitis 1994 202 Pasvalio „Pieno žvaigždės“
Denis Krestinin 1994 200 Zgoželeco „Turow“ (Lenkija)
Erikas Kubilius 1995 187 Palangos „Palanga“
Lukas Lekavičius 1994 180 Kauno „Žalgiris“
Mantvydas Stašelis 1994 190 Kauno „Jazz-KTU“
Justas Tamulis 1994 194 Kauno „Žalgiris-2″
Donatas Tarolis 1994 199 Kauno „Žalgiris-2″
Gediminas Žalalis 1995 205 Panevėžio „Lietkabelis“

christodoulou76
07-06-2014, 02:38 PM
Greece U20

Giorgos Diamantakos 1995 2.16 Panathinaikos
Paris Maragkos 1994 2.05 American University
Michalis Liapis 1995 1.90 PAOK
Alexandros Spyridonis 1995 1.89 KAOD
Dimitris Siologkas 1994 2.02 Iraklis
Ioannis Kouzeloglou 1995 2.04 Mantoulidis
Michalis Kamberidis 1994 2.00 Filathlitikos
Stelios Poulianitis 1995 1.90 Aris
Lefteris Bochoridis 1994 1.94 Aris
Ioannis Papapetrou 1994 2.03 Olympiacos
Dimitris Agravanis 1994 2.08 Olympiacos
Antreas Christodoulou 1995 1.93 Olympiacos

christodoulou76
07-06-2014, 06:02 PM
Papapetrou injured in today's practice. Severity of the injury is not clear but this could be a serious blow to Greece's chances in the tournament.

Update: Papapetrou has a sprain that will likely keep him out of the tournament. At the very least,he will miss the first round. I fear that Greece has lost any chance at getting a medal.

christodoulou76
07-07-2014, 12:14 PM
Will there be any TV coverage of this tournament?

Joško Poljak Fan
07-07-2014, 05:30 PM
I noticed Fiba broadcasted U20 women EC on their youtube channel. I'd be really dissapointed if they wouldn't do the same in the man's cathegory.

Dreamcatcher
07-08-2014, 01:02 AM
Last year Italy had

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_92632.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.playerID_78450.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2013.roundID_9350.teamID_307.htm l

Now they have 2 others

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_92632.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_80988.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

I wouldn't be surprised if it be France or England, even Spain, but Italy? When i hear "Italy", i think about pizza, spaghetti, Rome, Venezia, Milan, Maldini, Buffon, etc. But now i have to add "Balotelli" guys. Sad.

Dreamcatcher
07-08-2014, 01:09 AM
Also i see there are lots of 95y. old guys, maybe even more than 94. Pretty sad Porzingis isn't among them.

Looking forward to this.

ofkovac
07-08-2014, 08:35 AM
Standings Prediction:
1. Serbia
2. Spain
3. France
4. Lithuania
5. Greece
6. Turkey
7. Russia
8. Bulgaria
9. Germany
10. Croatia
11. Czech Republic
12. Latvia

germany nothing special this summer, latvia work very good last years with young players i see them much better then germany ( play two friendlys againts turkey 1-1), alsow cro win against germany easy in friendly...

in preparation tournoment in france Israel make very good results, easy win against cro and germany...ofcourse, that is preparation...

on official site nothing about live-stream, so we only can read play-by-play, so stupid...

pohani komarac
07-08-2014, 09:57 AM
Lovre Bašić (Zadar), Josip Gulam (Jolly), Paolo Marinelli (Union Olimpija), Dominik Mavra (Cibona), Mislav Brzoja (sveučilište Evansville), Domagoj Bošnjak (Široki), Lovro Demo (Cibona), Tomislav Gabrić (Cibona), Karlo Žganec (bez kluba), Filip Bundović (bez kluba), Marin Marić (sveučilište Northern Illinois), Marko Bačak (Berlin Süd).

Besides Hezonja and Saric we are missing Junakovic, Mustapic and I. Bender

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 10:14 AM
Last year Italy had

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_92632.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.playerID_78450.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2013.roundID_9350.teamID_307.htm l

Now they have 2 others

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_92632.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_80988.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

I wouldn't be surprised if it be France or England, even Spain, but Italy? When i hear "Italy", i think about pizza, spaghetti, Rome, Venezia, Milan, Maldini, Buffon, etc. But now i have to add "Balotelli" guys. Sad.

I see nothing sad about the fact that Italy is becoming a more racially diverse society. The use of American players by senior NTs (Draper, Domercant, McCalebb) is indeed a problem. But what you are pointing out is a completely different and much more positive phenomenon.

SaliH
07-08-2014, 12:07 PM
Stream for Turkey vs Croatia? OR any other game because I want to watch Poland vs Bulgaria.

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 12:57 PM
Turkey-Croatia 70-66 (OT) (Altunbay 14, Osman 13, Erulku 12; Gabric 17, Marinelli 12, Brzoja 10)

GEORGE_4
07-08-2014, 01:03 PM
Turkey-Croatia 70-66 (OT) (Altunbay 14, Osman 13, Erulku 12; Gabric 17, Marinelli 12, Brzoja 10)

Croatian coach took Marinelli on the bench 8 minutes before end of 4. Q... Marinelli returned on the court 16 seconds before the end of OT... sounds strange...

Picek
07-08-2014, 01:15 PM
Croatian coach took Marinelli on the bench 8 minutes before end of 4. Q... Marinelli returned on the court 16 seconds before the end of OT... sounds strange...without him in the game we were able to come back and tie the game in regulation..
but since no one watched the game it's hard to tell what was really going on..

GEORGE_4
07-08-2014, 01:25 PM
without him in the game we were able to come back and tie the game in regulation..
but since no one watched the game it's hard to tell what was really going on..

Seems he was on fire at the turn of 3. and 4. Q... but as you said it´s hard to say...

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 01:40 PM
I guess I underestimated Italy in my standings predictions. :o:o:o

GEORGE_4
07-08-2014, 01:43 PM
I guess I underestimated Italy in my standings predictions. :o:o:o

Czech NT isn´t the right opponent to check the power of Italy right now ;-)

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 01:57 PM
I fear a Papapetrou-less and Antetokounmpo-less Greece will get beaten by Lithuania today. :(

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 03:07 PM
Italy-Czech Republic 84-60 (Turel 19; Laquintana 16; Fontecchio 12; Peterka 23, Slanina 15, Festr 7)

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 03:23 PM
Serbia, France, Latvia, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Spain heavily favored in today's matches by the bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth). Upsets in the Bulgaria-Poland and Serbia-Slovenia games are already brewing.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-08-2014, 03:33 PM
Surely Serbia is the favourite, but it's not like Slovenia is some 3rd grade world basketball country as some bookies obviously tend to believe. As I keep saying, whenever Slovenia has a decent center they're up there with the rest at U20 cathegories. We've got that semi-decent center this time, the problem is that noone is really certain what's going on in Bolčina's head. He can go either 25+20 or fouls out within 5 minutes.

ThePeraCar
07-08-2014, 03:57 PM
Where can i watch this match?

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 04:52 PM
Poland-Bulgaria 85-78 (Grzelinski 21, Witlinski 16, Radwanski 13; Vezenkov 20, Stoyanov 17, Karamfilov 10)
Serbia-Slovenia 73-61 (Jankovic 23, Novak 17, Kaplanovic 12; Kastrati 17, Ritlop 12, Bolcina 10)

Joško Poljak Fan
07-08-2014, 05:02 PM
With Bolčina fouling out in 20 minutes in U20 level as well, Rebec going 2/9 FG and some relatively good shooters contributing to 2/16 from threepointer chances of upsetting a team as Serbia are of course slight to none.

@Exitche, there is no broadcast available...

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 05:51 PM
Lithuania-Greece 73-65 (Tamulis 15, Jankaitis 12, Grigonis 10; Bochoridis 20, Kamberidis 11, Diamantakos 11)

Greece's subpar field goal percentage (32%) and Diamantakos' and Agravanis' foul trouble (out most of the 2nd half with 4 fouls) contributed to the defeat.

ThePeraCar
07-08-2014, 06:02 PM
With Bolčina fouling out in 20 minutes in U20 level as well, Rebec going 2/9 FG and some relatively good shooters contributing to 2/16 from threepointer chances of upsetting a team as Serbia are of course slight to none.

@Exitche, there is no broadcast available...

I dont understand why they would broadcast U20 WOMAN but not MAN this reminds me of EL statment that they had to make EL more popular in England Germany France etc...now fiba has to make Women basketball more popular in world xD

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 06:14 PM
I dont understand why they would broadcast U20 WOMAN but not MAN this reminds me of EL statment that they had to make EL more popular in England Germany France etc...now fiba has to make Women basketball more popular in world xD

the women's tournament is in the 2nd round. it is likely that 2nd round men's matches will also be broadcast.

ofkovac
07-08-2014, 06:22 PM
the women's tournament is in the 2nd round. it is likely that 2nd round men's matches will also be broadcast.

this summer stream for woman tournoment working from start on youtbe, alsow U17WC...

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 06:39 PM
this summer stream for woman tournoment working from start on youtbe, alsow U17WC...

i stand corrected then. thanks for the clarification. :) hopefully some streams of the men's u20 tournament will surface, but i'm not holding my breath.

ofkovac
07-08-2014, 06:44 PM
its too much from Fiba to give as that present :) we must wait 2 round...

spain in big problem against germany tie after 3/4



amazing finish france-rusia 65:66 FT

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 07:06 PM
France-Russia 65-66 (Jaiteh 14, Dallo 9, Bouteille 9; Kulagin 13, Martynov 13, Kanygin 12) buzzer beater by Ilnitskiy!!
Germany-Spain 53-65 (Ogbe 10, Ugrai 10, Merz 8; Vicedo 14, G. Hernangomez 13, Diaz 10)

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 07:12 PM
We have seen double-double performances on Day One by some of the best players in the tournament:

Aleksandar Vezenkov, Bulgaria: 20 pts, 15 rebs
Rolands Smits, Latvia: 18 pts, 14 rebs
Mouhammadou Jaiteh, France: 14 pts, 10 rebs
Guillermo Hernangomez, Spain: 13 pts, 11 rebs
Nikola Jankovic, Serbia: 23 pts, 9 rebs (almost)
Talat Altunbey, Turkey: 14 pts, 9 rebs (almost)

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 08:06 PM
Great Britain-Latvia 64-62 (Young 17, Nelson 13, Lawson 12; Smits 18, Plavnieks 13, Gromovs 11)

Huge win for GB. The Greece-Latvia game tomorrow will be do or die for both teams.

Day One ends with three upsets: Russia over France, Poland over Bulgaria and Great Britain over Latvia!

GEORGE_4
07-08-2014, 08:29 PM
Great Britain-Latvia 64-62 (Young 17, Nelson 13, Lawson 12; Smits 18, Plavnieks 13, Gromovs 11)


Stop this madness, pls ;)

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 09:26 PM
Prediction for All-Tournament Team:
Alberto Diaz
Jovan Novak
Metecan Birsen
Nikola Jankovic (MVP)
Mouhammadou Jaiteh

Other possibilities:
Boris Dallo
Mikhail Kulagin
Tomas Dimsa
Guillermo Hernangomez
Milija Mikovic

ThePeraCar
07-08-2014, 10:04 PM
Great Britain-Latvia 64-62 (Young 17, Nelson 13, Lawson 12; Smits 18, Plavnieks 13, Gromovs 11)

Huge win for GB. The Greece-Latvia game tomorrow will be do or die for both teams.

Day One ends with three upsets: Russia over France, Poland over Bulgaria and Great Britain over Latvia!

i dont even know if you can call them GB i mean they are all black xD smth like USA even Serbia had some difficulties winning vs GB

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 10:31 PM
i dont even know if you can call them GB i mean they are all black xD smth like USA even Serbia had some difficulties winning vs GB

There are many black people in Great Britain. This doesn't make the country American. Let's not confuse race and nationality. Public service announcement over. :)

ThePeraCar
07-08-2014, 10:49 PM
There are many black people in Great Britain. This doesn't make the country American. Let's not confuse race and nationality. Public service announcement over. :)

i didnt mean they are americans i mean they are black and i dont have anything against blacks but truth to be told they are physically more dominant especially in these younger categories and white players struggle alot vs them you know...

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 10:52 PM
Russia-France video highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQZDj4W3GA0)
Turkey-Croatia video highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oaz54wvy6c) (strangely mostly of Croatian baskets even though Turkey won)
Poland-Bulgaria video highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7VNI8xlQsk)

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 10:54 PM
i didnt mean they are americans i mean they are black and i dont have anything against blacks but truth to be told they are physically more dominant especially in these younger categories and white players struggle alot vs them you know...

Well if it's physical dominance you are looking for, look no further than Mouhammadou Jaiteh. He looked really impressive in the video highlights of the France-Russia game. I can see now why some sites (http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2015/) are predicting that he will be drafted in the 2015 NBA draft.

ThePeraCar
07-08-2014, 10:57 PM
Well if it's physical dominance you are looking for, look no further than Mouhammadou Jaiteh. He looked really impressive in the video highlights of the France-Russia game. I can see now why some sites (http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2015/) are predicting that he will be drafted in the 2015 NBA draft.

well i dont know but that was problem serbian younger categories have vs "black" teams but at the end we always win cuz we are technically better...

christodoulou76
07-08-2014, 11:00 PM
well i dont know but that was problem serbian younger categories have vs "black" teams but at the end we always win cuz we are technically better...

Serbia is my pick to win the tournament. So I wouldn't be worried if I were you. Now fans of Greece have something to be worried about. We might not even make it to the 2nd round and the tournament is in Greece. That would be pretty awful. :(

ThePeraCar
07-08-2014, 11:01 PM
Serbia is my pick to win the tournament. So I wouldn't be worried if I were you. Now fans of Greece have something to be worried about. We might not even make it to the 2nd round and the tournament is in Greece. That would be pretty awful. :(

i know i know but im pretty sad cuz most of these player later dissapear in senior categories...

Chetto4
07-09-2014, 09:40 AM
Last year Italy had

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_92632.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.playerID_78450.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2013.roundID_9350.teamID_307.htm l

Now they have 2 others

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_92632.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.playerID_80988.compID_U IfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10030.teamID_307.ht ml

I wouldn't be surprised if it be France or England, even Spain, but Italy? When i hear "Italy", i think about pizza, spaghetti, Rome, Venezia, Milan, Maldini, Buffon, etc. But now i have to add "Balotelli" guys. Sad.

First of all, hi to everybody, great job with this forum, always a very interesting read!

I just wanna make a clarification: this guys are all born and raised in Italy, some of them are sons of an italian mom or dad, some were adopted when they were very very young. In Italy we have many many flaws, but give passport or nationality or anything like that away to random people is not one of them. Probably just because of our laws on this matter but that's it :D. You can't take the italian nationality easily if you don't have italian origins or if you are not married to an italian man/woman. On the contrary there is great discussion and many complaints because kids born and raised in Italy can't represent their country until they are 18 years old...

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 10:41 AM
The bookmakers are heavily favoring Montenegro, Turkey, Germany, France and Spain and slightly favoring Israel, Greece and Great Britain in today's games. See details here (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth).

Jon_Koncak
07-09-2014, 11:07 AM
Can there be a thread about a youth tournament without racist remarks from the usual suspects?Propably not.Dreamcatcher,your obsession with going through rosters to find black kids is creepy.But hey,whatever floats your boat my friend.

ThePeraCar
07-09-2014, 11:14 AM
Can there be a thread about a youth tournament without racist remarks from the usual suspects?Propably not.Dreamcatcher,your obsession with going through rosters to find black kids is creepy.But hey,whatever floats your boat my friend.

im not making racist remarks i just said you know...you know when white baby and black baby are born black baby in start is 30% stronger than white one :D

GEORGE_4
07-09-2014, 11:43 AM
How does Papapetrou looks like???? Will be able to play tonight???

ThePeraCar
07-09-2014, 11:47 AM
How does Papapetrou looks like???? Will be able to play tonight???

He looks sexy man :3

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 11:58 AM
How does Papapetrou looks like???? Will be able to play tonight???

He will not play at all in the first round and there's a chance he won't play in the tournament as a whole. My best guess is that if Greece advances to the second round, he will play at some point in the tournament.

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 12:00 PM
Milija Mikovic dominating so far in the Montenegro-Czech Republic game. :cool: Montenegro looks like a medal contender. Mikovic has 10/13 FG% and 2/11 FT %. :eek:

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 01:29 PM
Montenegro-Czech Republic 84-70 (Mikovic 22, Zizic 19, Vusovic 10; Slanina 13, Kouril 13, Krivanek 8)

GEORGE_4
07-09-2014, 01:35 PM
Montenegro-Czech Republic 84-70 (Mikovic 22, Zizic 19, Vusovic 10; Slanina 13, Kouril 13, Krivanek 8)

Another poor game by czech silver generation from EC U16 in 2011...

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 03:44 PM
Turkey-Italy 90-66 (Sanli 14, Kosut 13, Birsen 12; Fontecchio 19, Landi 18, Laquintana 9)

Impressive performance by Turkey. 8 Turkish players scored at least 7 points. They should go far in this tournament (top 8 for sure, possibly top 4)

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 03:59 PM
Top 3 teams in each group will advance. Things are already starting to clarify.

Group A: Lithuania will likely advance. Beyond that everything is up for grabs.
Group B: Serbia, Slovenia and Spain likely to advance.
Group C: Turkey will likely advance and the Czech Republic will not. Beyond that everything is up for grabs.
Group D: Russia, France and Israel will likely advance.

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 04:51 PM
Israel-Poland 74-49 (Gutt 16, Ariel 15, Koulechov 11; Jeszke 10, Szymkiewicz 9, Borowski 8)
Germany-Sweden 82-47 (Akpinar 17, Ugrai 15, Thiemann 11; Larsson 12, Lofberg 6, Eliasson 6)

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 05:53 PM
Greece-Latvia 79-77 (Bochoridis 21, Agravanis 14, Christodoulou 11; Pasecniks 18, Smits 13, Plavnieks 13)

Good presence in the paint for Greece shooting 56% in 2-pt FG% and outrebounding Latvia 43 to 35. Another bad shooting night for Greece from 3-pt range, 29%, with Agravanis and Christodoulou shooting a combined 2/11.

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 07:02 PM
Slovenia-Spain 71-63 (Rebec 22, Katstrati 15, Nikolic 13; Hernangomez 19, Brizuela 16, Vicedo 10) Slovenia ran away with the match in the 4th quarter. Spain shot an atrocious 3/20 from 3-pt range.
France-Bulgaria 77-76 (Dallo 21, Jaiteh 13, Yabusele 13; Vezenkov 24, Vutev 21, Grozev 10) Another heartbreaking loss for Bulgaria.

Hepcat
07-09-2014, 07:11 PM
im not making racist remarks i just said you know...you know when white baby and black baby are born black baby in start is 30% stronger than white one :D

I don't believe that for a moment.

This European U20 tournament though is the best and most interesting one this summer until the September World Championship Tournament! Turkey is off to a strong start.

:cool:

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 07:39 PM
Here are my shot in the dark standings predictions:

1st Round:
Group A: 1. Lithuania, 2. Greece, 3. Latvia
Group B: 1. Serbia, 2. Slovenia, 3. Spain
Group C: 1. Turkey, 2. Croatia, 3. Montenegro
Group D: 1. Israel, 2. Russia, 3. France

2nd Round:
Group E: 1. Serbia, 2. Lithuania, 3. Slovenia, 4. Spain
Group F: 1. Turkey, 2. Israel, 3. Croatia, 4. France

Joško Poljak Fan
07-09-2014, 07:44 PM
Slovenia-Spain 71-63 (Rebec 22, Katstrati 15, Nikolic 13; Hernangomez 19, Brizuela 16, Vicedo 10) Slovenia ran away with the match in the 4th quarter. Spain shot an atrocious 3/20 from 3-pt range.
I feel relieved that Rebec can't perform as bad as vs. Serbia on a daily basis. 22 points, 5 rebounds and 10 assists (along with 5 TO's as well). Bolčina once again in foul troubles, he might just wake up at one point of the tournament hopefully, without him making noticable contribution I'm quite surprised this team played as good, result wise :)
Game vs. Germany will be crucial, but nevertheless with this win doors to 2nd round are wide open.

ThePeraCar
07-09-2014, 08:22 PM
I don't believe that for a moment.

This European U20 tournament though is the best and most interesting one this summer until the September World Championship Tournament! Turkey is off to a strong start.

:cool:

well i dont give a shit really...its scientifically proven

christodoulou76
07-09-2014, 11:07 PM
Lots of interesting games on Thursday.

France-Israel
Croatia-Italy
Serbia-Spain
Turkey-Montenegro

christodoulou76
07-10-2014, 01:44 AM
The bookmakers are heavily favoring Montenegro, Turkey, Germany, France and Spain and slightly favoring Israel, Greece and Great Britain in today's games. See details here (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth).

Day Two featured two upsets. Hungary beat Great Britain and Slovenia beat Spain.

pohani komarac
07-10-2014, 09:51 AM
Jusuf Nurkic is my new hero. Didn't wannt play summer league so he can play for B&H U-20 team.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-10-2014, 10:08 AM
And all that in B division :cool: respect to the guy. With an inside player like that, other 4 players would have to be completely incompetent to miss advancing to div A. He already looks fairly strong playing grown ups, he'll look like a Shaq-reincarnation while playing those 20 years olds.

christodoulou76
07-10-2014, 11:01 AM
Bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) are favoring Croatia, Turkey, Russia, Serbia, Greece, France, Slovenia and Lithuania today.

christodoulou76
07-10-2014, 01:16 PM
Croatia-Italy 80-67 (Gabric 18, Marinelli 17, Zganec 14; Landi 14, Laquintana 14, Bossi 10)
Turkey-Montenegro 86-83 (Ozmizrak 16, Osman 13, Turen 12; Zizic 18, Kovacevic 13, Mikovic 12) Montenegro fell just short of achieving a huge comeback after being down by 20 after Q3. Turkey will finish first in Group C.

Nothing to lose
07-10-2014, 04:30 PM
Dont put your money on Montenegro, unlike previous U20 teams this one is not that talented plus few players are missing.I am though happy with results so far.Do you know where those games can be watched online? Streams. YT channels, anything?

christodoulou76
07-10-2014, 04:54 PM
Serbia-Spain 70-61 (Jankovic 16, Andric 16, Jaramaz 9; Brizuela 21, G. Hernangomez 8, Martin 7) Serbia is almost guaranteed to finish first in Group B.

Russia-Bulgaria 77-64 (Krechetov 14, Kulagin 13, Martynov 11; Vezenkov 14, Stoyanov 13, Marinov 13) The Russia-Israel match will likely determine the winner of Group D.

Greece-Hungary 67-65 (Kamperidis 14, Agravanis 13, Diamantakos 8; Perl 17, Bognar 12, Simon 8) Greece had another solid performance in the paint but were terrible again from 3-pt range (2/17)

Joško Poljak Fan
07-10-2014, 07:28 PM
Slovenia - Sweden 70-58 (Nikolič 22, Rebec, Kastrati and Bolčina 10; Dawit 16, Larsson and Spires 11)
Bolčina with 1 foul only. I am sure he will return at the top of the most fouls per game cathegory fast enough but this is still a serious anomaly :confused:

France - Israel 75-63 (Jaiteh 21 and 4 rebs only, Chassang 15, Rosenfeld 11; Ariel 15, Segev 11)

christodoulou76
07-10-2014, 10:31 PM
Bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) are favoring Croatia, Turkey, Russia, Serbia, Greece, France, Slovenia and Lithuania today.

No surprises today. All the favorites won.

christodoulou76
07-10-2014, 11:02 PM
Turkey-Czech Republic: meaningless game. Turkey has secured 1st place in Group C, Czech Republic is all but eliminated.
Montenegro-Croatia: winner of this game will secure 2nd place in Group C. Loser will likely finish 3rd.

Germany-Slovenia: with a win, Slovenia secures 2nd place in Group B. If Germany wins, there will likely be a 3-way tie between Slovenia, Spain and Germany. The first two teams in the tie-break standings will qualify for the next round.
Sweden-Serbia: Serbia will almost certainly win easily and finish first in Group B.

Poland-France: If France wins, they will qualify to the next round, but their position in the Group D standings will depend on the Israel-Russia game. (see below) If Poland wins, things get complicated (too complicated to contemplate!)
Israel-Russia: If Russia wins, they will finish 1st in Group D, France will be 2nd (assuming they beat Poland) and Israel 3rd (huge win against Poland means that even if Israel loses to Bulgaria on Saturday, they are likely to qualify). If Israel wins (and France beats Poland; and Israel beats Bulgaria on Saturday), there will be a 3-way tie at the top of the group between Israel, Russia and France.

Hungary-Lithuania: Lithuania should win this game easily and finish 1st in Group A.
Greece-Great Britain: If Greece wins, they will finish 2nd in Group A. If Great Britain wins, they will finish 2nd in Group A and Greece will finish 3rd (unless Hungary beats both Latvia and Lithuania in which case Hungary will finish 2nd, Great Britain 3rd and Greece will be eliminated)

christodoulou76
07-11-2014, 11:36 AM
Bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) favor Turkey, Croatia, France, Slovenia, Greece, Russia, Serbia and Lithuania in today's games.

SaliH
07-11-2014, 02:12 PM
Czech Rep. 64-81 Turkey

Finally a good game by Metecan Birsen - 24pts, 7reb, 6ast, and 1blk. Turkey looks like a balanced team, everyone is contributing. Hope they go far in the tournament.

PS Bad tournament for Bulgaria IMO, I hoped they can reach at least the second round.

Levenspiel
07-11-2014, 03:03 PM
Czech Rep. 64-81 Turkey

Finally a good game by Metecan Birsen - 24pts, 7reb, 6ast, and 1blk. Turkey looks like a balanced team, everyone is contributing. Hope they go far in the tournament.

PS Bad tournament for Bulgaria IMO, I hoped they can reach at least the second round.
It seems so, yes. But I was thinking, is it better to have a balanced team, or to have a few "stars", who would surely translate their games to senior level?
I'm not sure, but I'd lean towards the latter option.

christodoulou76
07-11-2014, 03:18 PM
Czech Rep. 64-81 Turkey

Finally a good game by Metecan Birsen - 24pts, 7reb, 6ast, and 1blk. Turkey looks like a balanced team, everyone is contributing. Hope they go far in the tournament.

PS Bad tournament for Bulgaria IMO, I hoped they can reach at least the second round.

Bulgaria has no chance of reaching the second round unfortunately. Poor Vezenkov...If his team was better, he would surely be on the all-tournament team.

christodoulou76
07-11-2014, 03:32 PM
Croatia-Montenegro 72-62 (Mavra 13, Brzoja 13, Marinelli 12, ; Mikovic 18, Djurovic 12, Vusovic 11) Montenegro put up a good fight, with Mikovic posting a monstrous double-double and finally shooting a decent 70% from the FT line, but Croatia was too strong despite shooting a paltry 4/25 from 3-pt range. Croatia has secured 2nd place in Group C and Montenegro will likely finish 3rd.

SaliH
07-11-2014, 04:25 PM
It seems so, yes. But I was thinking, is it better to have a balanced team, or to have a few "stars", who would surely translate their games to senior level?
I'm not sure, but I'd lean towards the latter option.

Well, for the future of the senior team it's a better thing to have some outstanding players that shine in every moment but I prefer winning the tournament with a balanced team and statistics. The mentality of the winners can be archived only by winning and pushing forward. Players need to learn how to play for the good of the TEAM, not for their points only.

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.pageID_sniZ4BmSGQQLlPeL-EMh33.compID_UIfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.roundID_10029.teamID_376.ht ml

Look at Turkey's statistics, most of the guys play around 20min. a game and contribute well for our wins. Most of them are talented young players that will translate to senior level well if the turkish clubs and coaches use them more than over-payed washed up "stars" that come to Turkey every year.

PS @Christo76 Yes, Vezenkov is a really talented player but he is not the only one who is able to play good in this team. In our 3 games so far we lost in the last minutes....... maybe Bulgaria lacks a wining mentality. Like in every other sport. :D

christodoulou76
07-11-2014, 04:51 PM
France-Poland 67-60 (Sene 13, Yabusele 12, Jaiteh 8; Garbacz 16, Borowski 14, Schenk 9) France has qualified to the next round. Poland is eliminated.
Germany-Slovenia 63-60 (Ugrai 14, Muller 13 Ogbe 8; Bolcina 14, Kastrati 12, Rebec 9) Big comeback by Germany in the fourth quarter. Now Slovenia, Germany and Spain will likely tie at 2-2 (if Serbia beats Germany and Spain beats Sweden). Two of these teams will advance.

For tiebreakers, FIBA 2012 Rules (http://www.fiba.com/downloads/Rules/2012/OfficialBasketballRules2012.pdf) (pages 68-71) apply since the FIBA 2014 Rules don't go into effect until October 2014.

Germany-Spain 53-65
Spain-Slovenia 63-71
Slovenia-Germany 60-63

Slovenia 1-1 131-126 GA (goal average)=1.039
Spain 1-1 128-124 GA=1.032
Germany 1-1 116-125 GA=0.928

So if Spain beats Sweden and Germany loses to Serbia, Slovenia will finish 2nd in the Group and Spain will finish 3rd. Germany will be eliminated.

One way for Germany to qualify is to beat Serbia, in which case they will finish 1st, Serbia will finish 2nd and Slovenia will finish 3rd. Spain will be eliminated.

Another way for Germany to qualify is if Spain loses to Sweden. This is very unlikely so I won't elaborate.

What does seem clear is that Slovenia and Serbia have both qualified regardless of the outcomes of tomorrow's matches.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-11-2014, 04:55 PM
Both PG's Nikolič and Rebec combined for 10 TO's out of teams 19, 12 of those forced through steals. As far as I know them both I can easily see them overdoing it passing through too many people and such. Surprisingly TO's have been Slovenia's biggest issue so far, letting Rebec go loose can have it's minuses as well as pluses obviously.
Nevermind the loss Slovenia is through, Germany would either have to beat Serbia to pass or have Spain lose against Sweden. Quite happy about it since majority of players are 95' born and Bolčina is a headcase and I've expected this team to get physcaly dominated accordingly.

christodoulou76
07-11-2014, 05:45 PM
Great Britain-Greece 69-66 (Nelson 18, Sentance 12, Bigby-Williams 9; Bochoridis 14, Agravanis 12, Christodoulou 12) Great Britain won despite going an atrocious 6/27 from 3-pt range. Greek players shot an excessive number of 3-pt shots, 36 in total, the most in the tournament so far.

If Hungary beats Latvia tomorrow and Great Britain loses to Lithuania, then Hungary, Great Britain and Greece will tie.

Hungary-Great Britain 53-44
Greece-Hungary 67-65
Great Britain-Greece 69-66

1. Lithuania 4-0
2. Hungary 2-2 1-1 118-111
3. Greece 2-2 1-1 133-134
4. Great Britain 2-2 1-1 113-119

In this scenario, Hungary finishes second and Greece third. Significantly, Greece carries with it a win over Hungary into the second round. This is the best case scenario for Greece.

The other scenario is for Great Britain to beat Lithuania and Hungary beats Latvia. In this case

1. Great Britain 3-1 1-0
2. Lithuania 3-1 0-1
3. Greece 2-2 1-0
4. Hungary 2-2 0-1
5. Latvia 0-4

The final scenario is for Lithuania to beat Great Britain and Latvia to beat Hungary. In that case

1. Lithuania 4-0
2. Great Britain 2-2 1-0
3. Greece 2-2 0-1
4. Latvia 1-3 1-0
5. Hungary 1-3 0-1

Srle
07-11-2014, 06:32 PM
I love Nelson's game. He played great last year at u18 tournament as well .

christodoulou76
07-11-2014, 09:36 PM
Israel-Russia 58-56 (Menco 17, Zalmanson 8, Gutt 7; Ilnitskiy 15, Kulagin 11, Babushkin 10)

If Israel beats Bulgaria and Russia beats Poland on Saturday, then there will be a 3-way tie at the top of Group D. France will finish 1st, Russia 2nd and Israel 3rd but all three teams will carry 1 win and 1 loss into the second round.

christodoulou76
07-11-2014, 09:38 PM
Bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) favor Turkey, Croatia, France, Slovenia, Greece, Russia, Serbia and Lithuania in today's games.

There were three upsets today. Great Britain beat Greece, Israel beat Russia, Germany beat Slovenia.

vaslover
07-11-2014, 10:25 PM
Quite curious to see our Andrey Desyatnikov. He,s an enormous player( 2,20m!!!) with decent potential for development. In offence he still quite limited. But offensively, he can finish when he,s put in the right position.Seems like that already he,s strong enough in defence, first of all in block shots, but need to admit that considering his huge size his movements are stiff and he lacks great balance. Andrey struggles to move his feet against the pick and roll, and his toughness has been questioned. Definitely that it,s uncertain whether he,ll ever have the quickness to react to plays in serious level. But anyway, he,s still young and certainly that his touch and size make him very intriguing.

felix_r
07-11-2014, 10:38 PM
Israel-Russia 58-56 (Menco 17, Zalmanson 8, Gutt 7; Ilnitskiy 15, Kulagin 11, Babushkin 10)

If Israel beats Bulgaria and Russia beats Poland on Saturday, then there will be a 3-way tie at the top of Group D. France will finish 1st, Russia 2nd and Israel 3rd but all three teams will carry 1 win and 1 loss into the second round.

Israel already qualified to the next round, so Israel doesn't care about the last game against Bulgaria. Russia must win Poland, other way Russia is out

christodoulou76
07-12-2014, 11:14 AM
Bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) favor Montenegro, Croatia, Israel, Spain, Latvia, Serbia, Russia and Lithuania in today's games.

christodoulou76
07-12-2014, 01:32 PM
Italy-Montenegro 88-84 (OT) (Candussi 24, Fontecchio 20, Turel 17; Mikovic 25, Zizic 19, Vrbica 17) Italy grabs the 3rd spot in Group C and knocks out Montenegro from the competition.

christodoulou76
07-12-2014, 02:05 PM
Serbia, Turkey look like favorites to make it to the semifinals. Beyond that, Lithuania and Croatia look pretty strong. France, Israel, Slovenia, Spain have an outside shot for a semifinal spot. I don't think Greece, Hungary/Great Britain, Russia and Italy have much chance of progressing past the 2nd round.

christodoulou76
07-12-2014, 05:06 PM
Papapetrou won't play in the 2nd round of the tournament because he hasn't overcome his injury. Meanwhile, Latvia is beating Hungary at the end of the 3Q. If that result holds, Greece will go into the 2nd round without a win and without their best player. Not a good situation.

christodoulou76
07-12-2014, 07:48 PM
Poland beats Russia to make it to the 2nd round. A big surprise - Poland lost by 25 points to Israel a few days ago. The tournament loses a very talented player in Kulagin. The other surprise team of the first round is Great Britain. Came close to beating Lithuania today. Finish second in Group A and will probably only need one victory against Spain in the 2nd round to qualify for the quarterfinals.

arroyo35
07-12-2014, 08:27 PM
Turkey has versatile team, all players have some duties on the court. Kartal ozmızrak is a great leader, emircan kosut is a great defensive center, cedi osman is a great athletic player, metecan is a good shooter and others are role players and completes the deficiencies of team. As you see the player stats, score is shared by nine players. This versatility will help us during next tours. Maybe it is difficult for us to be champion but i predict we will play f4 at least. This year, tournement is weaker comparing the previous years.

Also Israel, Crotia, Serbia and Lithuania are all great teams, particularly Serbia is my favourite for championship.

ThePeraCar
07-13-2014, 02:10 PM
Serbia has won over germany 76-68 in additonal time(Jovan Novak 32p,Nikola Jankovic 12p;Maximilian Ugrai 16p,Malik Muller 11p) Serbia finished first stage with 4/4 wins where we will compete vs Greece,Spain,GB,Lithuania,Slovenia for semifinals...

christodoulou76
07-13-2014, 02:14 PM
Serbia has won over germany 76-68 in additonal time(Jovan Novak 32p,Nikola Jankovic 12p;Maximilian Ugrai 16p,Malik Muller 11p) Serbia finished first stage with 4/4 wins where we will compete vs Greece,Spain,GB,Lithuania,Slovenia for semifinals...

I think Serbia, Lithuania, Turkey and Croatia are frontrunners for semifinal spots. Poland and Greece will have a very hard time making it to the quarterfinals. Spain and Italy, even though they go into the 2nd round with 0 wins, have a chance to make it to the quarterfinals.

Toxicity
07-13-2014, 06:24 PM
I think Serbia, Lithuania, Turkey and Croatia are frontrunners for semifinal spots. Poland and Greece will have a very hard time making it to the quarterfinals. Spain and Italy, even though they go into the 2nd round with 0 wins, have a chance to make it to the quarterfinals.

What do you think about Poland and Israel? Do you think Italy can defeat theam? With 2 wins (and 1 loss against France) we could advance but we'd need some help from other teams (like Turkey or Croatia that shouldn't lose against Israele and Poland)...

Giorgos Alexopoulos
07-13-2014, 06:57 PM
can anyone tell me the official site of fiba that i can watch the macthes live?

Hepcat
07-13-2014, 07:35 PM
Papapetrou won't play in the 2nd round of the tournament because he hasn't overcome his injury.... Greece will go into the 2nd round without a win and without their best player. Not a good situation.

Well then the Greek team is going to have to dig deep tomorrow against Serbia and demonstrate that they still have the character to compete.

:)

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 09:54 AM
What do you think about Poland and Israel? Do you think Italy can defeat theam? With 2 wins (and 1 loss against France) we could advance but we'd need some help from other teams (like Turkey or Croatia that shouldn't lose against Israele and Poland)...

I think your biggest challenge will come against Israel. Poland should lose alll 3 of its matches. If you can beat Israel, you will probably qualify. Israel has looked pretty strong so far however. It won't be easy to beat them. Turkey and Croatia will probably both beat Israel. The Croatia-Israel game might be a close one.

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 10:25 AM
Turkey, Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, France and Lithuania are favored by bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) in today's games.

carlo
07-14-2014, 12:50 PM
Second round games will be streamed live.

http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/default.asp

Hepcat
07-14-2014, 12:59 PM
can anyone tell me the official site of fiba that i can watch the macthes live?

And here's another link to the same:

https://www.youtube.com/FIBA

:)

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 01:51 PM
Both Group A teams - Hungary and Latvia - won their games today. I will take that as a hopeful sign that Greece has a chance, however slim, to make some noise in the 2nd round. Hope dies last (or after a massive defeat at the hands of Serbia). :D

Hungary was down by 4 to Russia with 4 seconds left. Kulagin committed an unsportsmanlike foul. Varadi made both free throws and then with 2 seconds left Perl hit a 3-pointer to give Hungary the victory!

Joško Poljak Fan
07-14-2014, 02:58 PM
Unfreaking believable. It takes 1-2 persons a video camera and a lap-top to broadcast the game and yet that is an enormous obstacle for Fiba even if I am sure they could easily make some money out of it. Selected games being broadcasted just means I'll have to keep watching 4-5 same countries over and over again :(

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 03:04 PM
Unfreaking believable. It takes 1-2 persons a video camera and a lap-top to broadcast the game and yet that is an enormous obstacle for Fiba even if I am sure they could easily make some money out of it. Selected games being broadcasted just means I'll have to keep watching 4-5 same countries over and over again :(

if you go to playlist all the games are there, I think, but the videos are private which seems to impose some geographical restrictions that are preventing me from seeing the games. :(

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 03:10 PM
Both Group A teams - Hungary and Latvia - won their games today. I will take that as a hopeful sign that Greece has a chance, however slim, to make some noise in the 2nd round. Hope dies last (or after a massive defeat at the hands of Serbia). :D

Hungary was down by 4 to Russia with 4 seconds left. Kulagin committed an unsportsmanlike foul. Varadi made both free throws and then with 2 seconds left Perl hit a 3-pointer to give Hungary the victory!

Slovenia demolishing Great Britain. All hope has been extinguished for the Greek team, I fear.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-14-2014, 03:21 PM
I don't think they're geographical, otherwise you could bypass them with proxy servers.

Rebec could be very near triple double if he'd manage to grab 2 more rebounds and score a bit. 4 points, 8 rebounds and 13 assists so far.

I wouldn't take this game as an indicator Christodoulou, some of these U20 players we've got are generaly pretty streaky :)

ThePeraCar
07-14-2014, 03:53 PM
there is live broadcast on youtube yupii :D

Hepcat
07-14-2014, 04:36 PM
Hungary was down by 4 to Russia with 4 seconds left. Kulagin committed an unsportsmanlike foul. Varadi made both free throws and then with 2 seconds left Perl hit a 3-pointer to give Hungary the victory!

I'm guessing that the Russian coach might have a few words for Kulagin.

;)

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 06:07 PM
Greece-Serbia 70-69 (Bochoridis 17, Diamantakos 17, Agravanis 16; Jankovic 18, Salic 13, Andric 10) In order to qualify to the QFs, Greece needs to beat Spain tomorrow and Great Britain to lose its remaining games.
Croatia-Israel 80-76 (OT) (Maric 22, Zganec 16, Brzoja 13; Ariel 28, Sharon 13, Menco 13)

carlo
07-14-2014, 06:25 PM
Both Serbia and Croatia were trailing and rallied back, but Greece was able to save the result, while Israel probably lost the game going to OT.

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 07:15 PM
Lithuania getting beat pretty bad by Spain. Greece wants a big victory by Spain (15+) or a victory by Lithuania.

Spain-Lithuania 65-62 (Vicedo 19, Abalde 14, G. Hernangomez 12; Grigonis 17, Dimsa 15, Tarolis 9)

Bad result for Greece which now needs

a) to beat both Slovenia and Spain (very difficult) -or-
b) to beat Spain, while Lithuania beats Slovenia and/or Serbia (and GB loses both its remaining games) -or-
c) beat Spain by 6+ points (and GB loses both its remaining games) -or-
d) if Greece loses to Spain, they can advance if Slovenia and GB lose their two remaining games
e) there also scenarios involving GB beating either Serbia or Spain but I think these are unlikely

carlo
07-14-2014, 08:23 PM
Nails biting game Italy-France.

French team narrowly wins by 1.

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 08:32 PM
Nails biting game Italy-France.

French team narrowly wins by 1.

If Italy wins its two remaining games they will likely advance because Israel lost to Croatia.

Hepcat
07-14-2014, 08:55 PM
Spain-Lithuania 65-62 (Vicedo 19, Abalde 14, G. Hernangomez 12; Grigonis 17, Dimsa 15, Tarolis 9)


A heartbreaker. Lietuva came back from a sixteen point deficit late in the third quarter to tie the game with a minute to play, and Spain won it with a three pointer with a second to play.

:(

christodoulou76
07-14-2014, 09:00 PM
A heartbreaker. Lietuva came back from a sixteen point deficit late in the third quarter to tie the game with a minute to play, and Spain won it with a three pointer with a second to play.

:(

I think Lithuania only needs to win one of its two remaining games to advance. Lithuania could also advance without winning any games in the 2nd round if GB and Greece lose all their remaining games or if one of these 2 teams loses both its games and the other only loses one or if they both only win one remaining game (in the latter two cases goal average might come into play)

Hepcat
07-15-2014, 02:26 AM
It still looks as if first place in the group might be determined in the Lietuva-Serbia game on Wednesday.

:)

gockun
07-15-2014, 09:44 AM
i am really happy for Turkish team make it so far. We probably won't win the championship or even a medal. the bright sight is that the most productive players born in '95 and they will show up next year again (maybe with Sipahi). and as far as i remember this generation sucked up 2 years ago at the u18 championship. it is really nice to see them developing.

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 10:32 AM
Bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) favor Turkey, Italy, Spain, Serbia and Lithuania in today's games. Odds are even in the France-Croatia game.

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 10:34 AM
Turkey, Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, France and Lithuania are favored by bookmakers (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) in today's games.

There were two upsets in yesterday's games: Greece beat Serbia and Spain beat Lithuania.

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 11:44 AM
i am really happy for Turkish team make it so far. We probably won't win the championship or even a medal. the bright sight is that the most productive players born in '95 and they will show up next year again (maybe with Sipahi). and as far as i remember this generation sucked up 2 years ago at the u18 championship. it is really nice to see them developing.

Turkey is certainly a favorite for a medal. They are the only undefeated team in the tournament!

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 01:49 PM
Given how the tournament is developing and the likely teams to make it to the semifinals (Serbia, Turkey, France, Croatia), here are my new picks for the all-tournament team:

Jovan Novak
Paolo Marinelli
Metecan Birsen
Nikola Jankovic (MVP)
Mouhammadou Jaiteh

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 01:57 PM
4 games to be televised (http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.pageID_W,hnMRxHG5Yd1emt i4i1O3.compID_UIfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.html) today apparently:

Poland-Italy (Italy should dominate)
Greece-Spain (key game for both teams; If Greece loses, they are probably eliminated; Spain will likely beat GB so a loss is not as bad for them, especially if they lose by fewer than 6 points and Lithuania loses to Slovenia)
Lithuania-Slovenia (great game - should determine 2nd place in Group E)
Croatia-France (another great game - should determine 2nd place in Group F)

They should have televised the Turkey-Israel game!

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 02:55 PM
Aleksandar Vezenkov had 30 pts, 11 rebs, 6 assists and 2 steals against Sweden and he didn't play at all in Q4!! :cool:

Levenspiel
07-15-2014, 03:54 PM
4 games to be televised (http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.pageID_W,hnMRxHG5Yd1emt i4i1O3.compID_UIfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2014.html) today apparently:

Poland-Italy (Italy should dominate)
Greece-Spain (key game for both teams; If Greece loses, they are probably eliminated; Spain will likely beat GB so a loss is not as bad for them, especially if they lose by fewer than 6 points and Lithuania loses to Slovenia)
Lithuania-Slovenia (great game - should determine 2nd place in Group E)
Croatia-France (another great game - should determine 2nd place in Group F)

They should have televised the Turkey-Israel game!
Definitely. :p
I followed the live stream, and it was actually a close game until the last 4mins, where T. Erulku just started to score everything. I think he scored 22 points in 2 quarters (1st & 4th), and mostly sat down in the other 2nd and 3rd q.

Straight forward
07-15-2014, 08:19 PM
Wow, Grigonis clutch again. He really can play at the end of the game. Cold blooded individual performance in the last minute after struggling all game long.

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 08:39 PM
After today's results,

Group E:
For Greece to advance:
- needs to beat Slovenia and GB loses to Spain. In this scenario, Greece would finish 4th.

For GB to advance:
- needs to beat Spain. In this scenario, GB would finish 4th.

For Spain to advance:
- needs to beat GB. If Spain beats GB and Greece beats Slovenia, Spain finishes 3rd. If Spain beats GB and Slovenia beats Greece, Spain finishes 4th.

For Slovenia to advance:
- needs to beat Greece. If they do they will likely finish 3rd.
- if Slovenia loses to Greece, they still advance if GB beats Spain. In this scenario, they will finish 3rd.

Lithuania:
- has already made it to the QFs.
- will finish 1st with win against Serbia.
- will finish 2nd with loss against Serbia and a loss by Spain.
- will finish 3rd with loss against Serbia and a win by Spain

Serbia
- has already made it to the QFs
- will finish 1st with win against Lithuania.
- will finish 2nd with loss against Lithuania and losses by both Spain and Slovenia
- will finish 1st with loss against Lithuania and wins by both Spain and Slovenia.

christodoulou76
07-15-2014, 09:09 PM
After today's results,

Group F:
Turkey:
- already advanced to QFs
- with win against France, finishes 1st
- with loss against France, finishes 2nd if Croatia loses to Poland
- with loss against France by fewer than 6 pts, finishes 2nd if Croatia beats Poland
- with loss against France by more than 6 pts, finishes 3rd if Croatia beats Poland

France
- already advanced to QFs
- finishes 1st with win against Turkey and Croatia loss to Poland
- otherwise will finish 2nd or 3rd

Croatia
- already advanced to QFs
- finishes 3rd with loss against Poland and France win
- finishes 2nd if France loses
- likely to finish 1st with win against Poland and France win (will depend on goal difference)

Poland
- eliminated

Italy
- advances with win against Israel. In this scenario, Italy finishes 4th.

Israel
- advances with win against Italy. In this scenario, Israel finishes 4th.

c-myers
07-16-2014, 09:03 AM
I don't want to match up with Greece on quarter final, even they've pointed mediocre perfomance so far but in spite of that they beat serbia maybe strongest team on tourney but main reason their homecourt advantage. I'd prefer to Slovenia or Lithuania.

gockun
07-16-2014, 09:10 AM
Turkey is certainly a favorite for a medal. They are the only undefeated team in the tournament!

i got the feeling that Group E will sweep Group F, aside from any match-ups...

Joško Poljak Fan
07-16-2014, 10:00 AM
Terrible loss yesterday. After having a comfortable lead as ussual Slovenia has gone too much into defending instead of playing further. As I kept saying there were huge fluctuations within the game and in the last 5 minutes either side could've get ahead by 10 points or more if some oppurtunities were seized.
This way as losing against hosts is nothing special, Slovenia can actually drop out of top8. Damn.

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 12:52 PM
They got it right this time. 3 good games will be televised today: Lithuania-Serbia, Greece-Slovenia, France-Turkey. They should have also televised Israel-Italy.

EDIT: They are also televising Spain-GB.

Hepcat
07-16-2014, 01:14 PM
Wow, Grigonis clutch again. He really can play at the end of the game. Cold blooded individual performance in the last minute after struggling all game long.

Grigonis more than made up for that brutally bad play at the end of the first half where he did the only thing that he could not do, fouling on a very low percentage three point attempt. That cost Lithuania three points as the Slovenian player calmly drained three foul shots.

:)

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 02:13 PM
i got the feeling that Group E will sweep Group F, aside from any match-ups...

I don't think so. Croatia, Turkey and France will be favorites in their QF games (unless any of them are matched up against Serbia).

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 02:26 PM
Terrible loss yesterday. After having a comfortable lead as ussual Slovenia has gone too much into defending instead of playing further. As I kept saying there were huge fluctuations within the game and in the last 5 minutes either side could've get ahead by 10 points or more if some oppurtunities were seized.
This way as losing against hosts is nothing special, Slovenia can actually drop out of top8. Damn.

Don't worry JPF. Slovenia might qualify for the QFs before even taking the court today. GB giving Spain a stiff challenge so far...

fasoulaki
07-16-2014, 02:39 PM
GB giving Spain a stiff challenge so far...
I do not remember me cheering for a Spanish team before? :D

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 02:46 PM
I do not remember me cheering for a Spanish team before? :D

I know what you mean. It's a strange feeling...

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 03:16 PM
30 pts by Spain in Q3. That will do nicely, thank you very much. :)

Luke Nelson ejected (?) from game with 2 technical fouls, I think.

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 03:45 PM
I guess Nelson wasn't ejected after all. Two technical fouls don't lead to an ejection in youth games? Interesting. Didn't know that.

Spain won and are through to the QFs. Dominant 3Q was the difference. Spain finally shot well from 3-pt range and improved their assists-turnovers ration dramatically in the 2nd half. If Greece wins, Spain will finish 3rd. If Slovenia wins, Spain will finish 4th. Great Britain eliminated. They played very well throughout the tournament. This bodes well for the GB Senior NT in the years to come.

Israel beat Italy quite easily in the end. Another monster game by Menco - 21 points, 11 rebounds, 6 assists, 86 FG %, perfect from the FT line. Israel advances to QFs in 4th place in group F. Italy is eliminated.

fasoulaki
07-16-2014, 03:48 PM
If Greece wins, they will finish 3rd.
If Papapetrou is healthy, now is the best time to use him.

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 03:53 PM
If Papapetrou is healthy, now is the best time to use him.

Sorry, I meant that if Greece wins, Spain will finish 3rd. Greece will finish 4th. I don't think Papapetrou will play in the tournament at all. As far as I know, he is still in Athens.

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 04:01 PM
If Slovenia wins and Lithuania loses, Serbia finishes 1st, Slovenia 2nd, Lithuania 3rd and Spain 4th. If Slovenia wins and Lithuania wins, Lithuania finishes 1st, Serbia 2nd, Slovenia 3rd and Spain 4th.

If Greece wins and Lithuania loses, Serbia finishes 1st, Spain 2nd, Lithuania 3rd and Greece 4th. If Greece wins and Lithuania wins, Lithuania 1st, Serbia 2nd, Spain 3rd and Greece 4th.

winner of Lithuania-Serbia match will play Israel in QFs.

c-myers
07-16-2014, 04:56 PM
As far as I can see Rebec is most talented pg by far on the tourney. I really impressed his playing. His shoot and assist skills extremely good. I think that he'll be elite pg for euroleague level.

fasoulaki
07-16-2014, 05:53 PM
As far as I can see Rebec is most talented pg by far on the tourney. I really impressed his playing. His shoot and assist skills extremely good. I think that he'll be elite pg for euroleague level.

he is rather short though

Dreamcatcher
07-16-2014, 05:53 PM
Well, we look bad. Our traditionall best players here Grigonis and Dimsa doesn't look better than their teammates

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 06:03 PM
Things getting ugly in the Slovenia-Greece game. Sad to see. Rebec is right to be upset.

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 06:11 PM
Greece-Slovenia 84-67 (Liapis 22, Agravanis 16, Diamantakos 16; Rebec 33, Nikolic 16, Bolcina 8)

An absolutely monster game from Rebec (33 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 steals) was not enough today. Sad to see Slovenia eliminated. Greece has played very well in the 2nd round.

Serbia-Lithuania 73-54 (Jankovic 14, Pot 12, Jaramaz 12; Jankaitis 14, Tamulis 10, Tarolis 7)

Final standings in Group E:
1. Serbia
2. Lithuania
3. Spain
4. Greece
5. Slovenia
6. Great Britain

fasoulaki
07-16-2014, 06:11 PM
Things getting ugly in the Slovenia-Greece game. Sad to see. Rebec is right to be upset.

Did you see what happend? Obviously he was hit but I could not realize if this happend on purpose.

Oly_fan
07-16-2014, 06:14 PM
As far as I can see Rebec is most talented pg by far on the tourney. I really impressed his playing. His shoot and assist skills extremely good. I think that he'll be elite pg for euroleague level.

Agreed, monster performance.

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 06:33 PM
Did you see what happend? Obviously he was hit but I could not realize if this happend on purpose.

I would like to think that it was accidental. Either way, Kamperidis should have been called for a foul. I think Rebec and some of the other Slovenian players were probably frustrated with the fact that they lost to Lithuania by 1 pt forcing them into a do-or-die game against the tournament hosts, that Greece happened to play its best game of the tournament against them, and that some calls earlier in the game didn't go their way including having their coach ejected from the game.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-16-2014, 06:35 PM
I kind of got afraid this would happen after yesterdays too cheaply wasted game. Anyway, congrats Greece.
Kastrati after few days of fewer wasn't on his level, acompanied by Ritlop while Greece had a superb shooting day in the first half.


As far as I can see Rebec is most talented pg by far on the tourney. I really impressed his playing. His shoot and assist skills extremely good. I think that he'll be elite pg for euroleague level.
That was Rebec on a good day, when he could win the game by himself while on a bad day his decisionmaking can make the team suffer. His unpredictability can go both ways. In case he'll manage to control that devil inside him and reduce some over-enthsiastic moves, hit the gym to bulk up as otherwise he'll continue to suffer from the contact and get enough playing time to develop properly, the sky could be his limit.

Srle
07-16-2014, 06:52 PM
Great performance by our team so far. Hopefully they can take one of the medals . This is a very deep Serbian generation. I expect many of them to be part of the senior squad in the future.

Straight forward
07-16-2014, 06:57 PM
Well, we look bad. Our traditionall best players here Grigonis and Dimsa doesn't look better than their teammates

Agreed. While Grigonis looked more or less himself before the game against Slovenia (14pts and 3 assists per game), both talents doesn't play as they should. Maybe it's Masiulis foult, maybe both lacking motivation. From what I've seen Masiulis running the same combination almost all game long. The tournament isn't over, we'll see if they can start paying.

Levenspiel
07-16-2014, 07:24 PM
France-Turkey, first half 34-35.
I'm suprised how France could not ran away in 2nd quarter, where we could not even inbound for a while. Their athletic bigs collected many offensive rebs, but either got blocked or missed almost all. That's the reason France could never pulled off I think... Gotta credit our bigs, though, they looked smart. Good run in last 2mins to take over the lead.

christodoulou76
07-16-2014, 08:01 PM
barring a miraculous comeback by France, the QFs (to be played on Friday) are

Serbia-Israel
Lithuania-France
Spain-Croatia
Greece-Turkey

I think Serbia, Turkey and France are clear favorites. The Croatia-Spain game is a toss up IMO.

Good luck to all teams!

Mindozas
07-16-2014, 08:06 PM
Greece-Slovenia 84-67 (Liapis 22, Agravanis 16, Diamantakos 16; Rebec 33, Nikolic 16, Bolcina 8)

An absolutely monster game from Rebec (33 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 steals) was not enough today. Sad to see Slovenia eliminated. Greece has played very well in the 2nd round.

Serbia-Lithuania 73-54 (Jankovic 14, Pot 12, Jaramaz 12; Jankaitis 14, Tamulis 10, Tarolis 7)

Final standings in Group E:
1. Serbia
2. Lithuania
3. Spain
4. Greece
5. Slovenia
6. Great Britain

Lithuania 3rd, Spain 2nd ;)

SaliH
07-16-2014, 08:22 PM
It is good that Turkey lost, now we won't play against Greece, the hosts. We're second so won't play against Serbia either- the best team at the tournament. If we go to the semifinals, who are we playing against?

Levenspiel
07-16-2014, 08:24 PM
barring a miraculous comeback by France, the QFs (to be played on Friday) are;
:D it wasn't that miraculous! when you drop your guard, France seemingly has the tools to score in bunches... watched just one France game this tournament, but Axel Bouteille (reminded me so much of Antoine Rigaudeau), Pontens, and Rozenfeld looked like great shooters, and when they made their shots, their bigs started to produce as well...

Tayfun Erulku is obviously a very smart player, and I think he's gonna make some impact in senior level too. I don't know why coach took him out for the last 4 minutes though...

Mindozas
07-16-2014, 08:34 PM
It is good that Turkey lost, now we won't play against Greece, the hosts. We're second so won't play against Serbia either- the best team at the tournament. If we go to the semifinals, who are we playing against?

Serbia-Israel winner

GEORGE_4
07-16-2014, 08:43 PM
Serbia-Israel winner

Remember the QF ten years ago - Halperin, Limonad and Eliyahu against Perovic, Koljevic, Radenovic, Rasic... Israel won 83:82 by Anton Kazarnovski´s tip-in ;)

Unbelievable, remarkable, unlikely, heroic ;)

Peregrin
07-17-2014, 04:13 AM
can anyone tell me where to watch online lives? Lithuania, Croatia, Serbia are my favorite teams.

serbianhoops
07-17-2014, 04:42 AM
on You Tube‚ FIBA channel.

Peregrin
07-17-2014, 05:46 AM
thanks

christodoulou76
07-17-2014, 11:23 AM
Misc Notes:
According to a Greek sports site, Rebec and Nikolic have been called up to the senior Slovenian NT training camp. A reward for their fine performances in the U20 tournament.
Papapetrou will not play in the QFs or any further stage of the tournament. He was not able to overcome his injury in time.
Apparently, a provocative celebration in the 36th minute by the Turkish player, Erulku, inspired the French comeback yesterday. The match had to be halted after tempers flared and then France dominated the rest of the way. After the game, the French team left without shaking the hands of their opponents.

The QFs
Serbia-Israel: Serbia is the big favorite, but I think Israel has a chance to cause an upset.
Turkey-Lithuania: I think Turkey will win.
Croatia-Greece: I think Croatia will win.
France-Spain: This one might be the closest game of this round. I give the edge to France.

Hepcat
07-17-2014, 01:07 PM
can anyone tell me where to watch online lives? Lithuania, Croatia, Serbia are my favorite teams.

You should be able to find a link prior to the games right on the front page of the Fibaeurope site:

http://www.fibaeurope.com/default.asp

:)

christodoulou76
07-17-2014, 01:24 PM
What statistical categories are most predictive of winning success? Based on the following statistics, Croatia and Turkey should be seen as favorites to medal at this tournament.

Top 5 Teams at U20 by Category:
Assists:
1. Montenegro
2. Croatia
3. Slovenia
4. Turkey
5. Spain

Points:
1. Turkey
2. Serbia
3. Bulgaria
4. Croatia
5. Montenegro

Points Allowed:
1. Germany
2. Serbia
3. Spain
4. Croatia
5. Russia

Opponent FG%:
1. Croatia
2. Turkey
3. Germany
4. Lithuania
5. Spain

Rebounds:
1. Croatia
2. Turkey
3. Latvia
4. Montenegro
5. Greece

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 10:16 AM
Very surprised at the bookmakers' odds (http://www.oddschecker.com/basketball/youth) for today's games. The odds are very close except in the Serbia-Israel game where Serbia is the huge favorite. In the other games, the bookmakers are slightly favoring Greece, Spain and Turkey. I am surprised Turkey is not a bigger favorite and that France and Croatia are not also favored.

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 01:36 PM
Turkey-Lithuania 79-65 (Osman 24, Turen 16, Ozmizrak 13; Tamulis 14, Jankaitis 11, Lekavicius 10) Easy win for Turkey as expected. Disappointing 0 pts from Grigonis. Turkey looks like a favorite for the gold.

Levenspiel
07-18-2014, 02:14 PM
Turkey-Lithuania 79-65 (Osman 24, Turen 16, Ozmizrak 13; Tamulis 14, Jankaitis 11, Lekavicius 10) Easy win for Turkey as expected. Disappointing 0 pts from Grigonis. Turkey looks like a favorite for the gold.
Our kids managed to look amazing and horrible within the same game (also against France)... So, they may get the gold or end up 4th... that's typical for youngsters, but the difference looked too blatant... Anyway, important thing, I think we'll have a few quality players from this team, which was initially not very promising...

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 02:17 PM
Israel beating Serbia so far. Bookmakers are clueless. ;)

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 02:59 PM
Diamantakos out for Greece today. He is suffering from gastroenteritis. I expect a blowout by Croatia. We have now lost 3 of our best players - Antetokounmpo, Papapetrou and Diamantakos...:(

Levenspiel
07-18-2014, 03:40 PM
Israel beating Serbia so far. Bookmakers are clueless. ;)
They were almost, almost running away with it... leading by 9 in last 3-4 minutes, but Serbia made a great comeback... OT now...

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 04:00 PM
Israel-Serbia 86-90 2OT (Menco 26, Gutt 12, Sharon 10; Jaramaz 21, Jankovic 19, Rebic 12) Epic contest!

carlo
07-18-2014, 04:04 PM
Great finish of a game that almost ended with a big upset.

Jaramaz match-winner, Menco awesome shooter (28 pts).

Victorious
07-18-2014, 04:09 PM
Diamantakos out for Greece today. He is suffering from gastroenteritis. I expect a blowout by Croatia. We have now lost 3 of our best players - Antetokounmpo, Papapetrou and Diamantakos...:(

Well, these players along with Bochoridis are the best players of this generation. A complete roster would be the favorite for gold, and while the absentees may have an impact on the final standings of this tournament, the players aren't going nowhere. In this respect it is reassuring to see that Greece reached the top 8 without two of its best players. If they loose the game against Croatia, it is rather irrelevant.

israel6
07-18-2014, 04:14 PM
So Close :(

Roy M
07-18-2014, 04:21 PM
If you go to the fights with Drucker and Migdal's players, you can't win at the money time

Levenspiel
07-18-2014, 04:30 PM
Great finish of a game that almost ended with a big upset.

Jaramaz match-winner, Menco awesome shooter (28 pts).
Exactly. Menco was very impressive, made almost everything, but Jaramaz took over the game by himself... whenever they were down, he fought back... damn clutch performance...

israel6
07-18-2014, 04:34 PM
If you go to the fights with Drucker and Migdal's players, you can't win at the money time

Menco ?

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 04:40 PM
Well, these players along with Bochoridis are the best players of this generation. A complete roster would be the favorite for gold, and while the absentees may have an impact on the final standings of this tournament, the players aren't going nowhere. In this respect it is reassuring to see that Greece reached the top 8 without two of its best players. If they loose the game against Croatia, it is rather irrelevant.

Agreed on all accounts.

By the way, Spain-France is a brickfest. Good defense by both teams. Score of either team might not go over 60 pts.

euskadi
07-18-2014, 04:44 PM
Well, these players along with Bochoridis are the best players of this generation. A complete roster would be the favorite for gold, and while the absentees may have an impact on the final standings of this tournament, the players aren't going nowhere. In this respect it is reassuring to see that Greece reached the top 8 without two of its best players. If they loose the game against Croatia, it is rather irrelevant.

truth to be said, it's not like greece is only one butcherd with absentees. almost every top team miss key players. from saric and hezonja ( and bender, junakovic, mustapic who was maybe best player along saric in u18 2012. ), micic, milutinov, radicevic, todorovic, sipahi, kanter, diop, homs, perez, imbro, testissori... and so on

Srle
07-18-2014, 04:47 PM
Our coach is garbage . It took him almost entire regular time of the game , to figure out that he has to play with one center against small and quick Israeli team . Jaramaz and Tejic saved his butt . Great strategy by Israel coach to play zone defense against us , he almost pull out a win , he;s a very good coach, props to Israel, great game, if they won it would have been well deserved:)

Srle
07-18-2014, 04:48 PM
truth to be said, it's not like greece is only one butcherd with absentees. almost every top team miss key players. from saric and hezonja ( and bender, junakovic, mustapic who was maybe best player along saric in u18 2012. ), micic, milutinov, radicevic, todorovic, sipahi, kanter, diop, homs, perez, imbro, testissori... and so on

With all players available in this tournament , would have been one of the best ever, quality wise.

euskadi
07-18-2014, 04:56 PM
With all players available in this tournament , would have been one of the best ever, quality wise.

agree

plus i forgot couple 95. born players like ingles, porzigins, seskus, jokic.... talentwise, pretty good 94., 95. generation

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 05:14 PM
You guys are right. The depth of talent in Serbia, Croatia, Spain is so great that with full teams, these NTs are hard to beat. I see this with the schism that is happening this summer between U18 Euro and U17 World tournaments. Many key Greek players will play in both tournaments. But teams like Spain are fielding completely different squads! They have 12+ excellent players born each year. Very impressive.

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 05:32 PM
Slovenia, disappointed at narrowly missing out on the QFs, is being crushed by an inferior Polish team. :eek:

Hepcat
07-18-2014, 05:35 PM
Turkey-Lithuania 79-65 (Osman 24, Turen 16, Ozmizrak 13; Tamulis 14, Jankaitis 11, Lekavicius 10) Easy win for Turkey as expected. Disappointing 0 pts from Grigonis.

Both Marius Grigonis and Tomas Dimša absolutely disappeared in the last three games or so. Very disappointing. As they say, you're not going to win unless your best players are your best players when the chips are down.

:(

carlo
07-18-2014, 06:26 PM
Spain is other semifinalist beating France in ugly game (for what I've watched), no run, game control, sticky defenses and a lot of errors.

Mindozas
07-18-2014, 06:27 PM
I don't give a fuck about these youth tournaments results, just everytime hoping some Lith youngster will shine, but this time it was probably the most dissapointing tourney ever. I thought Grigonis will easily make some 15ppg/8rpg or smth after his great season in Spain, damn, I even thought he can make some noise in EL with Zalgiris next season (if he'll sign there), while Dimsa already did so, but still he fucked up badly... Sad

Levenspiel
07-18-2014, 06:28 PM
A bit of a sad ending for France... Sene got injured, trying to steal the ball, and the referees were not really helpful to them in last seconds...

I noticed the audience was seriously supporting France over the last two games (vs Turkey & vs Spain). I don't know if Greeks like French very much, or they simply dislike the opponents... or, maybe so many French tourist is there for holidays...

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 07:03 PM
A bit of a sad ending for France... Sene got injured, trying to steal the ball, and the referees were not really helpful to them in last seconds...

I noticed the audience was seriously supporting France over the last two games (vs Turkey & vs Spain). I don't know if Greeks like French very much, or they simply dislike the opponents... or, maybe so many French tourist is there for holidays...

I think those fans are French. They bring horns and make a really annoying racket. ;)

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 07:22 PM
Croatia-Greece 42-37 HT. Close game so far. Greek players showing a lot of heart despite having few options at the 3 and 5 positions. The Croatian player, Bundovic, towers over his Greek defenders and has scored at will in the 1st half. The stats of the two teams are remarkably similar except for one: Croatia is shooting 60% from 2-pt range while Greece is shooting 29%.

christodoulou76
07-18-2014, 07:59 PM
Siologkas injured. Agravanis fouled out. (Diamantakos and Papapetrou did not suit up for today's game due to injuries). Greece left with 8 players, 3 of whom (Poulianitis, Kouzeloglou, Spyridonidis) have played a combined 91 mins in the tournament so far. :eek:

Oly_fan
07-18-2014, 08:47 PM
Overall Greece did better than I thought without Papapetrou who'd be by far the best player in the team.

Unless Bochorides rapidly improves, I can't see him becoming something more than an average player.

vaslover
07-18-2014, 10:32 PM
Meanwhile,Russian head coach(former Real Madrid center) Mikhail Mikhaylov decided to say "good buy" to Milhail Kulagin,Viktor Kashin and Alexander Martynov. Because the trio of youngsters infringed the internal disciplinary code of their national team previously to the game against Bulgaria.
The mess in our basketball continues.......

Levenspiel
07-19-2014, 12:28 PM
I liked the pregame review on fiba.com (http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/coid_ip78FuqQJaI0HUVtdLJDR1.articleMode_on.html).

"Turkey have showed at times a flawless defensive rotation, the mark of a team which spent a considerable amount in preparation for the competition.

However, the Turkish have had at least one stretch in each game, usually in the second half, although in the quarter-final clash against Lithuania it came in the second quarter, where either because of a lapse in concentration or because of fatigue, they suffer a drop in their defensive performance. It instantly signals a drop on the offensive end because the two are perfectly connected in Turkey's game - they play aggressive defence in order to get the ball and run in the open court to get the easy points.

Serbia are more cautious than that and, while they will not shy away from a good fast-break opportunity, their game plan is primarily thought out in a way that enables them to involve their big men."

christodoulou76
07-19-2014, 01:44 PM
Siologkas and Diamantakos join Papapetrou on the injured list for Greece's game today against France. We will play with 9 players. Fun times. 8th place here we come! :D

The Greek players showing a lot of heart once again. Up 21-20 after Q1. Incredible spirit under adverse circumstances.

Greece-France 39-28 at HT. Incredible first half by Agravanis who has 18 pts. Bouteille from France has 10 pts, most in the 1st quarter before he was benched with 2 fouls.

Greece-France 58-55 at end of Q3. France making a strong comeback behind 18 pts by Jaiteh and a last-second 3-pt shot by Yabusele.

Greece-France 81-72 at FT. Gutsy performance by the Greeks. Monster game by Agravanis who scored 28 pts! :cool:

Khalid80
07-19-2014, 04:43 PM
Man the way this Turkish team is playing defense and attacking the basket is really impressive! ... Didn't get to watch any of their games before in this tournament but I can see how focused and determined they are right now...

Edit: It's obviously tough both physically and mentally for the Serbian team after that "marathonic" win vs. Israel...

iskoch
07-19-2014, 04:50 PM
as i saw against france and lithuania; our weakness was half court trap and double teams.
serban coach still keeps man to man defence...
suicide imo...

Joško Poljak Fan
07-19-2014, 04:53 PM
Osman is playing great. Great agile defense by Turkey, with a lack of highest quality guards (for U20 level at least) Serbia is trying to put the ball under the rim, yet Janković, Šalić, Tejić find themselves under double teaming, with defenders in the passing lanes and too many seconds get wasted looking for them.

Khalid80
07-19-2014, 04:57 PM
If only they had the time correctly adjusted that shot would have counted from almost all the other way from across the court :eek:!!!

pohani komarac
07-19-2014, 04:59 PM
In past years I said manny times Croatia is not Hezonja or Saric. There are lot good prospects in our 94. 95 genrations. And was doubted by manny. Not just here. And not to metnion coach Brajkovic who said this team would not win without Saric. And there are more intresting players that we are missing. No mather what they do in next 2 games they proved they can play and that Brajkovic is big scam

christodoulou76
07-19-2014, 06:15 PM
New All-Tournament Team Predictions:

Paolo Marinelli
Tayfun Erulku
Cedi Osman (MVP)
Nikola Jankovic
Guillermo Hernangomez

serbianhoops
07-19-2014, 06:36 PM
Serbian guards lost the game, Cedi Osman gave them a master class on how to run a team. Next to him, Kosut showed a lot of upside potential (great mobility and length)

It was pretty obvious that our team got a little bit tired after yesterday's two overtimes against Israel and because they aren't getting adequate rest since the beginning of the competition (drawback of a short rotation).

Reaching the semi-finals is a indeed a good result. Too many no-shows, injuries and tumultuous relationships between several players and a coach whose main basketball asset is definitively his family link with the top scorer of first yugoslavian division in the 70es, Radmilo Misovic (Mijatovic is his nephew).

Khalid80
07-19-2014, 07:32 PM
Spain still scoreless in 3rd quarter with less than 4 minutes remaining!

Edit: What a 3 by Gabric!!! 5/6 from 3PT range...
Edit 2: Wow! What a lob pass win for Spain!

Mr Chacho
07-19-2014, 08:11 PM
Spain started playing horrible and now, we continue playing horrible but we are winning all difficult games by less than 5 point. Let's see the final, but I think Turkey is the favourite.

christodoulou76
07-20-2014, 03:43 PM
Greece, again with only 9 players suiting up, lost to Lithuania 76-72 in the 5/6 place game.

SaliH
07-20-2014, 06:53 PM
Turkey looks awful. Looks like we're going to lose the game, the boys are afraid to shoot the ball..............

Levenspiel
07-20-2014, 07:19 PM
Turkey looks awful. Looks like we're going to lose the game, the boys are afraid to shoot the ball..............
In pregame interview, Spanish coach was saying they have to stop Turkey from attacking within the first 8 seconds, where our kids apparently are very destructive... I think they did this well in first quarter, and ours could not execute well enough, not to mention some unusual sloppy passing and misses... but the team is deep; the bench players in 2nd quarter took over, gave us the lead by 7... Talat Altunbey's block on defensive end, and put back dunk on other end was impressive!

We have consistently had one disastrous quarter in 2nd halves so far in tournament... I hope it won't happen this time, Spain won't let us get away with it!

SaliH
07-20-2014, 07:47 PM
After the end of quater 3.

A lot of stupid mistakes by Turkey. Most of the starters play bad. But really liked Altunbey, nice game of the bench, showed some athleticism........ It's good to have a black player in the team, they are always more athletic :D

SaliH
07-20-2014, 07:56 PM
O yeah, and we're in Spain's trap...... we made us play a slow paced game. Our offence looks bad.

The worst part is that I watch the game on a spanish TV......... I hate people being happy when my team loses :D

arroyo35
07-20-2014, 08:00 PM
refs are terrible, making poor decisions against spain. our team can't find open court and fastbreaks which is crucial for us. Alsa i like both of hernangomez next gasol brothers. :)

SaliH
07-20-2014, 08:16 PM
We won. 65-57


Good game by Spain, they were a great opponent. Let's now see the all tournament team.

Mr Chacho
07-20-2014, 08:18 PM
Congratulations Turkey!!! Deserved win, you were the favourites and you show it. For Spain, be second is great, all tournament we played badly and the games we won were by less than 5 points (except vs Great Britian and Sweden). Oriol Paulí was great (Barça have a great player) and Hernángomez brothers played good too (I hope Guillermo will go on loan, he needs to play and in Madrid he won't play). Third silver for Spain after U-17 women WC and U-20 women EC.

Levenspiel
07-20-2014, 08:20 PM
Congrats to the kids! :) This was somewhat unexpected prior to the tournament, but they definitely deserved it the way they played... We got kind of lucky with Spain playing sloppier than us in the most critical minutes, but hey, winning is never easy... otherwise, they could just run away with a win... btw, Pauli is an impressive kid!

Now let's see how many minutes they'll log in their respective teams this season!

surfer
07-20-2014, 08:25 PM
Half of the team is from Efes, I'm proud :)

SaliH
07-20-2014, 08:30 PM
Spanish TV stopped the coverage right before they give us the cup and before playing the national anthem. :D

MVP is Cedi Osman.

All Tournament team:

G M. Rebec
G C. Osman
F A. Vezenkov
F N. Jakovic
C G. Hernangomez

I'm happy for Alex Vezenkov, although it's a rear thing a player from a team taking 15th place making it to the All tournament team.

christodoulou76
07-20-2014, 08:36 PM
Congratulations to Turkey! Well-deserved victory. I like the all-tournament team too. Nice to see Rebec and Vezenkov rewarded for great individual performances throughout the tournament even if their teams underperformed somewhat.

Mr Chacho
07-20-2014, 08:37 PM
Spanish TV stopped the coverage right before they give us the cup and before playing the national anthem. :D

MVP is Cedi Osman.

All Tournament team:

G M. Rebec
G C. Osman
F A. Vezenkov
F N. Jakovic
C G. Hernangomez

I'm happy for Alex Vezenkov, although it's a rear thing a player from a team taking 15th place making it to the All tournament team.

You see it on the spanish TV? Teledeporte (the Tv) could close in the next months.

SaliH
07-20-2014, 08:51 PM
You see it on the spanish TV? Teledeporte (the Tv) could close in the next months.


I tried to watch it on a turkish TV (NTV Spor) but the option "Watch live" on their site did not work. So I found a stream that was in spanish. Why are they closing? Financial problems maybe?

PS Really liked this guy Pauli, the best spanish player tonight. On the other hand Metecan Birsen looks like a guy that will become a good role player, but nothing more. Next year will be his final chance to prove himself on national level. Good thing is that most of the guys in the team are born in 1995 so next year's team may be even stronger. Can I ask, which turkish players from 96 look promising and could make it to the team next year?

arroyo35
07-20-2014, 09:00 PM
I tried to watch it on a turkish TV (NTV Spor) but the option "Watch live" on their site did not work. So I found a stream that was in spanish. Why are they closing? Financial problems maybe?

PS Really liked this guy Pauli, the best spanish player tonight. On the other hand Metecan Birsen looks like a guy that will become a good role player, but nothing more. Next year will be his final chance to prove himself on national level. Good thing is that most of the guys in the team are born in 1995 so next year's team may be even stronger. Can I ask, which turkish players from 96 look promising and could make it to the team next year?

pg: Berk Uğurlu, f: Okben Ulubay, Tolga Geçim pf: Ege Arar c: Ayberk Olmaz and Egemen Güven; i think these players will be in roster. 95-96 generation is our best generation ever and we will be more strength next year.

Levenspiel
07-20-2014, 09:01 PM
PS Really liked this guy Pauli, the best spanish player tonight. On the other hand Metecan Birsen looks like a guy that will become a good role player, but nothing more. Next year will be his final chance to prove himself on national level. Good thing is that most of the guys in the team are born in 1995 so next year's team may be even stronger. Can I ask, which turkish players from 96 look promising and could make it to the team next year?
Half of this team was U18 champions last year (Doğukan Şanlı, Cedi Osman, Metecan Birsen, Emircan Koşut, Kartal Özmızrak, Berk Demir). All 95 born. But they were led by Kenan Sipahi, Okben Ulubay (96-born) and Kerem Kanter then... So these guys will hopefully get together for u20 squad next year...

I disagree on Metecan by the way... being a good role player is also important! he's not a flashy scorer, but in games I watched (all games that were broadcasted :)) he exactly looked like it, and a good teammate who deferred the ball to better scorers most of the time...

Mr Chacho
07-20-2014, 09:03 PM
I tried to watch it on a turkish TV (NTV Spor) but the option "Watch live" on their site did not work. So I found a stream that was in spanish. Why are they closing? Financial problems maybe?

PS Really liked this guy Pauli, the best spanish player tonight. On the other hand Metecan Birsen looks like a guy that will become a good role player, but nothing more. Next year will be his final chance to prove himself on national level. Good thing is that most of the guys in the team are born in 1995 so next year's team may be even stronger. Can I ask, which turkish players from 96 look promising and could make it to the team next year?

TVE (spanish Tv), spent all the money destinated to sports buying the Champions league games (R. Madrid, Barça, Atlético and maybe Bilbao) and buying also the games of the spanish national football team. Paulí is a Barça player and he will play on loan with Huesca in Leb Gold (second divison).

haribi
07-20-2014, 09:16 PM
I tried to watch it on a turkish TV (NTV Spor) but the option "Watch live" on their site did not work. So I found a stream that was in spanish. Why are they closing? Financial problems maybe?

PS Really liked this guy Pauli, the best spanish player tonight. On the other hand Metecan Birsen looks like a guy that will become a good role player, but nothing more. Next year will be his final chance to prove himself on national level. Good thing is that most of the guys in the team are born in 1995 so next year's team may be even stronger. Can I ask, which turkish players from 96 look promising and could make it to the team next year?

The 96 generation is probably just as talented as the 95 one and both are considered our golden generation.
Players who could make it to the team next year are for example Berk Ugurlu, Tolga Gecim, Ogulcan Baykan, Ayberk Olmaz, Egemen Guven or Okben Ulubay ( even though I' pretty disappointed by his development in the last couple of years.)

Plus there is Furkan Korkmaz who is 1997 born and who is probably the most talented player overall right now in Turkey's youth teams.

SaliH
07-20-2014, 09:34 PM
Half of this team was U18 champions last year (Doğukan Şanlı, Cedi Osman, Metecan Birsen, Emircan Koşut, Kartal Özmızrak, Berk Demir). All 95 born. But they were led by Kenan Sipahi, Okben Ulubay (96-born) and Kerem Kanter then... So these guys will hopefully get together for u20 squad next year...

I disagree on Metecan by the way... being a good role player is also important! he's not a flashy scorer, but in games I watched (all games that were broadcasted :)) he exactly looked like it, and a good teammate who deferred the ball to better scorers most of the time...


You know, I've listened about this boy for years now and always expected him to be a future star, the "new Hedo", a future NBA player etc. Maybe one day He'll be, but he doesn't look like one of the flashy prospects. His statistics are not that bad btw 8.5 pts (on a 54% from 2 points line and 33,3% from behind the arc ), 5 rebs and 2.5 ast in 23 minutes a game. And yes, it's better your team to win than your statistics to be better. And it is a normal thing your numbers not to be so outstanding when your team is so balanced and your teammates on such a high level.


PS Really hope most of these guys from 95-96-97 turn into good players, our national team needs fresh blood and talented players........ I'm really sick of our performance in the last tournaments (it won't be better this year either....... 99% sure we won't make it to the second round). The lack of good guards is killing our national team in almost every tournament.

c-myers
07-20-2014, 09:57 PM
I think that 95-96 genaration most talented boys ever. Particulary 96' Ugurlu,ulubay,Geçim,Güven,Olmaz will join the U20 team next year and most likely they will be huge favourite. They have been won the u18 tourney last year.

Dreamcatcher
07-21-2014, 12:07 AM
Congrats to Turkey. Doing well in youth level recently: first gold u20 this year, first gold u18 last year, also gold u16 2 years ago. 95-96 generations has really lots of talents. By the way, Osman who has become MVP today, averaged only about 6 points per game last summer in u18 tournament. Not bad at all, huh?

And by the way, didn't you overstimate Pauli from Spain? Averaged only 5 points per game.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-21-2014, 09:01 AM
Congrats Turkey, well deserved. Osman has all the tools to become one of the top european players, i'm really impressed with him in particular.

First lineup of the turnament announced
PG: Rebec
SG: Osman (MVP)
SF: Janković
PF: Vezenkov
C: Hernangomez

Mr Chacho
07-21-2014, 10:10 AM
Congrats to Turkey. Doing well in youth level recently: first gold u20 this year, first gold u18 last year, also gold u16 2 years ago. 95-96 generations has really lots of talents. By the way, Osman who has become MVP today, averaged only about 6 points per game last summer in u18 tournament. Not bad at all, huh?

And by the way, didn't you overstimate Pauli from Spain? Averaged only 5 points per game.

Doesn't matter how many points you averaged in the early matches. The important thing is that you have to show your quality at the crucial moments, like finals, and Paulí played good at the semifinal and the final.

christodoulou76
07-21-2014, 11:15 AM
Turkey is immediately the favorite for the gold at next year's U20 tournament as well with a likely roster of Sanli, Osman, Birsen, Kosut, Ozmizrak, Demir, Yasar, Ugurlu, Baykan, Guven, Ulubay, Korkmaz: basically, the team that won U18 gold in 2013 + Korkmaz, who has monster stats at the 2013 U16 tournament.