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shais32
03-02-2013, 10:48 AM
Lets put here all our info for preperation games of the teams which will participate in the tournament EuroBasket 2013 (Slovenia)...

Bosnian 23
03-03-2013, 03:08 AM
Slovenija's prep. games:

26 July: Slovenia - Poland (Domzale)
28 July: Slovenia - F.Y.R. of Macedonia (Litija)
2 August: Slovenia - Latvia (Celje)
3 August: Slovenia - Turkey (Celje)
4 August: Slovenia - Serbia (Celje)
10/11 August: Belgrade tournament (participating teams: Serbia, Slovenia, Turkey, Ukraine)
16 August: Slovenia - Bosnia and Herzegovina (Jesenice)
18 August: Slovenia - Russia (Ljubljana)
23 August: Slovenia - Montenegro (Koper)
24 August: Slovenia - Italy (Koper)
31 August: Slovenia - France (Ljubljana)

They will play all their games at home except for the tournament in Belgrade.

Bosnian 23
03-03-2013, 03:09 AM
French prep. games:

22- 23 July, INSEP, Paris

25 July to 2 August, Pau

2 August, France v Finland

6 August, Germany v France (in Germany)

8-11 August, Strasbourg

9 August, France v Germany

10 August, France v Croatia

11 August, France v Greece

13-17 August, Antibes

15 August, France v Serbia

17 August, France v Georgia

23 August, Spain v France (in Spain)

26 August, France v Spain (French location TBD)

27-29 August, Paris

31 August to 3 September, Slovenia

31 August, Slovenia v France

Gytaz
05-07-2013, 09:00 AM
Lithuania's preparation games:

5 August, Klaipėda. Lithuania - Belgium

6 August, Klaipėda. Lithuania - Belgium

12 August, Panevėžys. Lithuania - Sweden

14 August, Panevėžys. Lithuania - Sweden

17 August, Skopje. Lithuania - FYR of Macedonia

21 August, Vilnius. Lithuania - Finland

22 August, Vilnius. Lithuania – Russia

23 August, Vilnius. Lithuania – Czech Republic

27 August, Athens. Lithuania – Italy

28 August, Athens. Lithuania – Greece

29 August, Athens. Lithuania – Bosnia and Herzegovina

1 September, Kaunas. Lithuania - Georgia



Wow, this year we're playing really week teams in the preparation games (with a few exceptions, of course) and many people will be unhappy about that but I say whatever suits them... First summer in a long time when we don't have a preparation game with Spain.

Listas
05-07-2013, 10:17 AM
Lithuania's preparation games:

5 August, Klaipėda. Lithuania - Belgium

6 August, Klaipėda. Lithuania - Belgium

12 August, Panevėžys. Lithuania - Sweden

14 August, Panevėžys. Lithuania - Sweden

17 August, Skopje. Lithuania - FYR of Macedonia

21 August, Vilnius. Lithuania - Finland

22 August, Vilnius. Lithuania – Russia

23 August, Vilnius. Lithuania – Czech Republic

27 August, Athens. Lithuania – Italy

28 August, Athens. Lithuania – Greece

29 August, Athens. Lithuania – Bosnia and Herzegovina

1 September, Kaunas. Lithuania - Georgia



Wow, this year we're playing really week teams in the preparation games (with a few exceptions, of course) and many people will be unhappy about that but I say whatever suits them... First summer in a long time when we don't have a preparation game with Spain.Correct me if I'm wrong, but we didn't play them last year.

Gytaz
05-07-2013, 10:30 AM
You're probably right. Somehow I had this feeling that we always play Spain. :)

Straight forward
05-07-2013, 10:32 PM
You're probably right. Somehow I had this feeling that we always play Spain. :)

And that's good. I have a feeling these massive loses play well for us :) Seriously, a little bit too weak opponents. We have to feel what's coming up. At least Greece and Russia will shake us a little bit.

Bosnian 23
05-30-2013, 04:28 AM
Looking forward to BiH - Lithuania, could be foreshadowing the group match we will play.

Migelitas
06-04-2013, 07:28 PM
Preparation games for Russia:

08.08 vs LAT, Riga
08.09 vs LAT, Riga
08.12 vs SRB, Belgrade
08.17 vs BIH, Koper
08.18 vs SLO, Ljubljana
08.21 vs CZE, Vilnius
08.22 vs LTU, Vilnius
08.23 vs FIN, Vilnius,
08.28 vs UKR, Moscow

auris1
06-04-2013, 09:00 PM
Lithuania's preparation games:

5 August, Klaipėda. Lithuania - Belgium

6 August, Klaipėda. Lithuania - Belgium

12 August, Panevėžys. Lithuania - Sweden

14 August, Panevėžys. Lithuania - Sweden

17 August, Skopje. Lithuania - FYR of Macedonia

21 August, Vilnius. Lithuania - Finland

22 August, Vilnius. Lithuania – Russia

23 August, Vilnius. Lithuania – Czech Republic

27 August, Athens. Lithuania – Italy

28 August, Athens. Lithuania – Greece

29 August, Athens. Lithuania – Bosnia and Herzegovina

1 September, Kaunas. Lithuania - Georgia



Wow, this year we're playing really week teams in the preparation games (with a few exceptions, of course) and many people will be unhappy about that but I say whatever suits them... First summer in a long time when we don't have a preparation game with Spain.
Fking 'ell,do we always have that many prep games?And for this duration?When does our camp start?2 weeks before?
If that and if we go all the way,thats like two months at least.I never actually realised that

Jon_Koncak
06-05-2013, 11:29 AM
Fking 'ell,do we always have that many prep games?And for this duration?When does our camp start?2 weeks before?
If that and if we go all the way,thats like two months at least.I never actually realised that

I agree.National team camps before soccer competitions last two weeks.They play two friendlies and thats it.In basketball camps last from 6 to 8 weeks including countless preparation games(which serve as nothin but a chance to lose a good player in an injury)It's just ridiculous and a main reason why so many players turn down NT invitations every summer.

pohani komarac
06-05-2013, 11:41 AM
I agree, + they moved championship in end of summer when trainig camps with clubs start. Very idiotic

Croatia will also play to manny prep games

6.8. Croatia-Macedonia
7.8. Croatia-Macedonia (in Croatia)

9.8. Croatia-Greece
10.8. Croatia-France
11.8. Croatia-Germany (in France)

15.8. Croatia-Montenegro
16.8. Croatia-Montenegro
18.8. Croatia-Latvia
19.8. Croatia-Lavia (In Croatia)

23-25.8. Tournament in Turkey (Croatia, Turkey, Serbia, Belgium)

Straight forward
06-06-2013, 10:16 PM
I don't think it's so onesided. The competion is 100% intense when teams are 100% prepared. If preparation would be shorter and competition longer we would see lesser basketball in the group stages. Besides, the schedulle of friendly games is usually friendly also (all 12 players usually get playing time), so I doubt it's the reason some players skip NT.

auris1
06-07-2013, 12:14 AM
Well,I think having championship in September makes more sense for me than having it earlier .
Players need the rest,and in a week or so season will be over for most of them,if they are lucky to be playing in good teams.
So It would give them at least a good month for improving their tans before they join preparation camps.
But if you are over 30 or had injury problems,them two months dedicated for nt team seems like luxury not many can afford.Or the other hand,if a player is without a contract ...those two months are like god sent .Go and figure.

ArnoldPettybone
07-14-2013, 06:02 PM
Israel Preparation matches:
6-10.8:Tournament vs. Italy, Poland and Georgia (at Italy)
16-20.8:Tournament vs. Belgium, Poland and Italy (At Belgium)
26.8:vs. Georgia (At Eilat, Israel)
28.8.vs. Georgia (At Haifa, Israel)

mbenga
07-14-2013, 09:53 PM
I agree.National team camps before soccer competitions last two weeks.They play two friendlies and thats it.In basketball camps last from 6 to 8 weeks including countless preparation games(which serve as nothin but a chance to lose a good player in an injury)It's just ridiculous and a main reason why so many players turn down NT invitations every summer.
Spain ussually only has 4 week long training camps and plays 7-8 games.
Italy on the other hand tend to have absurdly long camps with dozens of players.

mbenga
07-14-2013, 09:58 PM
13/08 Spain - Poland (Castellón)
17/08 Spain - Germany (A Coruńa)
20/08 Spain - Macedonia (Santiago de Compostela)
21/08 Spain - Macedonia (León)
23/08 Spain - France (Madrid)
26/08 France - Spain (Montpellier)
28/08 Spain - GB (Murcia)
29/08 Spain - GB (Zaragoza)

Hot Spot
07-26-2013, 02:35 PM
Here you find the complete Preparation Schedule:

http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/coid_0jsUInEAI9Es,Ozgb-Ven1.articleMode_on.html (http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/coid_0jsUInEAI9Es,Ozgb-Ven1.articleMode_on.html)

Vonbatas
07-27-2013, 11:23 AM
Slovenia 74:46 Ukraine

http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741461&league_id=undefined&season_id=87271#mbt:33-400$t&0=1

barchen
07-28-2013, 03:40 PM
any chance to find boxscore for these games? i just found some scorers at eurobasket.com.... but nothing more... thx

19:00 Hungary Montenegro Szombathely, HUN 72-76
20:00 Belgium Netherlands Hasselt, BEL 61-53
19:00 Germany Portugal Göttingen, GER 72-45
19:00 Austria Montenegro Szombathely, HUN 73-82
20:00 Belgium Netherlands Andenne, BEL 64-55

JRS Bonnet
07-29-2013, 12:59 PM
any chance to find boxscore for these games? i just found some scorers at eurobasket.com.... but nothing more... thx

19:00 Hungary Montenegro Szombathely, HUN 72-76
20:00 Belgium Netherlands Hasselt, BEL 61-53
19:00 Germany Portugal Göttingen, GER 72-45
19:00 Austria Montenegro Szombathely, HUN 73-82
20:00 Belgium Netherlands Andenne, BEL 64-55


Germany-Portugal (72-45), 27/07/2013
Boxscore: http://www.basketball-bund.de/wp-content/uploads/A-Herren2013GER-POR-1-.pdf


There was another game the following day:

Germany-Portugal (87-56), 28/07/2013
Boxscore: http://www.basketball-bund.de/wp-content/uploads/A-Herren2013GER-POR-2-.pdf


Hungary-Montenegro (72-76)
Boxscore: http://195.56.77.56/n4/?vwg0jbj0

barchen
07-29-2013, 03:21 PM
thx... i found belgium-holland games but i really figure out which player scored what amount of points...

http://www.belgianlions.com/lions/index.php/news/francais/1029-belgique-hollande-61-53

anybody knows? i think that first number might be field goals scored and second free throws but really dont know

Mindozas
07-29-2013, 03:57 PM
thx... i found belgium-holland games but i really figure out which player scored what amount of points...

http://www.belgianlions.com/lions/index.php/news/francais/1029-belgique-hollande-61-53

anybody knows? i think that first number might be field goals scored and second free throws but really dont know

1 half - 2 half. Atleast when you add together all the numbers, you get the scored points of the team

barchen
08-02-2013, 12:09 PM
any special missings for slovenia weekend tournament? or which players will be rested for slovenia team? I know just about karaman and nalga for turkey... thanks

christodoulou76
08-03-2013, 02:02 AM
France-Finland 101-93 (http://basketactu.com/equipe-de-france-finlande-prepa-44448/#.UfwZ6hL_r3M.twitter)
Serbia-Turkey 78-63 (http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741491&league_id=undefined&season_id=87271#mbt:33-400$t&0=1)
Slovenia-Latvia 71-67 (http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741501&league_id=undefined&season_id=87271#mbt:33-400$t&0=1)

If you believe the stats of the France-Finland game, both teams shot nearly 100% from the field. ;)

macleopard13
08-03-2013, 02:21 AM
France-Finland 101-93 (http://basketactu.com/equipe-de-france-finlande-prepa-44448/#.UfwZ6hL_r3M.twitter)
Serbia-Turkey 78-63 (http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741491&league_id=undefined&season_id=87271#mbt:33-400$t&0=1)
Slovenia-Latvia 71-67 (http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741501&league_id=undefined&season_id=87271#mbt:33-400$t&0=1)

If you believe the stats of the France-Finland game, both teams shot nearly 100% from the field. ;)

Both teams didn't play any defense then. Or this is fake, because only one foul was recorded and players shot more than one pair of free-throws.

christodoulou76
08-03-2013, 02:29 AM
Both teams didn't play any defense then. Or this is fake, because only one foul was recorded and players shot more than one pair of free-throws.

The stats are not accurate. And there is plenty of missing info, such as minutes played. That is actually one of the more interesting stats in preparation games as we try to figure out who will make the final roster.

Peace
08-03-2013, 07:38 AM
http://youtu.be/60mT7wx4Qsg

http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741491&league_id=undefined

18 - 23, 9 - 20, 20 - 13, 16 - 22



Hidayet Türkoglu (11p, 3rb)

Barış Ermiş (11p, 3rb, 2as)

İzzet Türkyılmaz (7p, 3rb, 2block)



Nenad Krstić (23p, 7rb)

Nemanja Nedović (15p, 4as)

Nemanja Bjelica (10p, 8rb, 3as)

SaliH
08-03-2013, 04:44 PM
Right now I'm watching Latvia - Turkey game.
It's painful to watch our guys. Guess it will be the same in Eurobasket.

Vendri
08-03-2013, 05:50 PM
Do you have complete highlights from the Turkey - Serbia game?

Thanks!

Navarro #7
08-03-2013, 05:53 PM
Turkish could not play worse.

christodoulou76
08-03-2013, 10:04 PM
Slovenia-Serbia 67-52 (http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741521&league_id=undefined&season_id=87271#mbt:33-400$t&0=1)
Latvia-Turkey 66-61 (http://www.kzs.si/index.php?id=114&game_id=2741511&league_id=undefined&season_id=87271#mbt:33-400$t&0=1)

Joško Poljak Fan
08-03-2013, 11:03 PM
I keep saying Latvia shouldn't be underestimated. Sure, it's the preparation games, but they've got a decent mix of running game, agressive perimeter defense, realy fluid set plays with a lot of running around along with set screens and long range activity. I really like their game. At eurobasket it's normaly not all about the individual quality and if Latvia manages to advance from the idea they are having right now and pefrect it they can be a tough match for just about anyone in the already tough group, potentialy they could become one of those positive surprises of the championships. It's too bad Bertans won't be playing for them, as he would fit in this game style to the upmost.

I haven't seen Slovenia-Serbia and am waiting for tommorow's replay, but nevertheless feel reliefed seeing that Maljković is actually forcing an uptempo game so far (he of course, is claiming that all teams he has coached so far in his career have pursuid such stlye (!?) which can be described as a remarkable confidence by just about anyone seeing one halftime of LImoges in his lifetime :D). Our backcourt trully excells at it though, G.Dragič and Blažič might be top5 players at the tournament when it comes to open court. If the referees would allow agresive backcourt defense Slovenia has some good chances to surprise at this championship, nevermind arguably the worst roster name-wise we've had in the decade.

I wouldn't be too worried about Turkey though, we've seen terrible preparation games and completely different performance when it mattered too many times now under Tanjević.

Efesdxb
08-04-2013, 07:43 AM
In first half our preparation Tanjevic trains players physically. In Bormio, I heard there was almost no training with ball, not shooting etc.
They lose all the rhythm. Expecting them to be ready during the tournament.
However I don't expect too much from the team under Tanjevic coaching.

Wingzar
08-04-2013, 11:53 AM
The stats are not accurate. And there is plenty of missing info, such as minutes played. That is actually one of the more interesting stats in preparation games as we try to figure out who will make the final roster.

The boxscore for France - Finland is available here :
http://www.basketusa.com/news/177940/equipe-de-france-vincent-collet-a-lembarras-du-choix/

Deschain
08-04-2013, 01:25 PM
In first half our preparation Tanjevic trains players physically. In Bormio, I heard there was almost no training with ball, not shooting etc.
They lose all the rhythm. Expecting them to be ready during the tournament.
However I don't expect too much from the team under Tanjevic coaching.

this is the same old story.
what have latvia and serbia been doing until now then?

they skip physical training? they start earlier?

c-myers
08-04-2013, 01:59 PM
It's completely annoying for us. we should get rid of ender and hedo anymore. and also tanyevic totally idiot he does playing sinan güler as a pg ıt should be huge joke. he already did not take furkan aldemir and enes kanter I do not expect anything. Eurobasket will be fiasco for us as usual.

Navarro #7
08-04-2013, 02:09 PM
IMO Turkish players did not play with necessary intensity. They're by far better than Latvia, but did't seem to take the match too seriously. When Tanjevic asked them, during a timeout, if they were joking I agreed with him. And they were lucky because the TV camera was there because everybody knows Tanjevic is more expressive than that...

madmax
08-04-2013, 04:11 PM
Turkey will be fine during EC, as they always tend to be lazy during meaningless games and then turn it up when it matters the most. If I was a betting man, I'd still put good money on turks finishing the EC higher in the standings than latvians...

Mindozas
08-04-2013, 04:23 PM
Turkey will be fine during EC, as they always tend to be lazy during meaningless games and then turn it up when it matters the most

2011 Eurobasket - 11th
2009 Eurobasket - 8th
2007 Eurobasket - 11th
2005 Eurobasket - 9th
2003 Eurobasket - 12th

They'll be fine as always

saritasbora
08-04-2013, 06:35 PM
Lmao Goran Dragic going berserk over a scrimmage
Slovenia team taking it serious over a Turkish B team is hilarious.

christodoulou76
08-04-2013, 07:07 PM
Lmao Goran Dragic going berserk over a scrimmage
Slovenia team taking it serious over a Turkish B team is hilarious.

i assume you would go berserk too if someone punched you in the face.

Navarro #7
08-04-2013, 07:11 PM
Where are you watching the match?

saritasbora
08-04-2013, 07:12 PM
i assume you would go berserk too if someone punched you in the face.

you wut!!
it was dragic who first punched the turkish player from behind his back

Joško Poljak Fan
08-04-2013, 07:19 PM
c'mmon, that guy was in there just to provocate him, gained two fouls, got away with two more, got whistled at penetration and tomahawked Dragič afterwards, the later pushed him and got a punch in his face. :D Dragič shouldn't have lost his nerves, but should have waited untill the defensive end, but the reaction to the beating was relatively expected.

@Navarro , try [url=http://ava.rtvslo.si/#tv.slo2;;]this[/link] not sure if it's coded outside of Slovenia though

auris1
08-04-2013, 07:24 PM
c'mmon, that guy was in there just to provocate him, gained two fouls, got away with two more, got whistled at penetration and tomahawked Dragič afterwards, the later pushed him and got a punch in his face. :D Dragič shouldn't have lost his nerves, but should have waited untill the defensive end, but the reaction to the beating was relatively expected.

@Navarro , try [url=http://ava.rtvslo.si/#tv.slo2;;]this[/link] not sure if it's coded outside of Slovenia though
Can you give proper link?Not this matrix code?
Nevermind,not working outside Slovenia

saritasbora
08-04-2013, 07:35 PM
Can you give proper link?Not this matrix code?
Nevermind,not working outside Slovenia

http://www.ntvspor.net/canliyayin

skip the add

Navarro #7
08-04-2013, 08:11 PM
Joško Poljak Fan, it didn't work, but thanks.

auris1
08-04-2013, 08:12 PM
http://www.ntvspor.net/canliyayin

skip the add
thanks for the link,worked very well.
4 minutes is better than nothing too)

auris1
08-04-2013, 08:15 PM
Joško Poljak Fan
Do they play each game in different arenas to test them?

Joško Poljak Fan
08-04-2013, 08:41 PM
Not really sure about that :) Celje will host a group, but I am not sure about the others.
Celje doesn't yet have an air conditioning so playing there wasn't really a rational decision. Someone could get injured and from basketball perspective teams weren't able to show everything either.

After that incident at the start the refs started to pursue much harsher criteria, which resolved in some strange decisions going both ways, I can't remember the last time I've seen some fouls whistled at this game.
Vidmar and P&R through him was decisive, ended up with 16+10 +2 blocks, Begić played less due to foul troubles and overall seems out of shape so far. It's amazing how un-used Z. Dragič was at Malaga, Blažič was lost, some people say his crazy handles are useless in this heat.
Turkey is traditionaly not ready at this stage, with Ilyasova and Turkoglu things might be different, although the guard line stays the same which will be the biggest handicap.


Latvia once again profited a lot from their zone defense, could be tricky as at the championship teams will be at much better shooting form. Krstič was unstoppable though. Teams without quality interior defense will definately get attacked through paint from Serbia.

christodoulou76
08-05-2013, 12:52 AM
the knock down, drag(ic)-out fight here (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12ooef_dogus-dragic-kavgasi_sport?start=2).

macleopard13
08-05-2013, 01:08 AM
Looking forward to the first friendly match for Lithuania. It will be broadcasted at 19:15 Lithuanian time on TV3, in case anyone's interested.

wardjdim
08-05-2013, 10:18 AM
I keep saying Latvia shouldn't be underestimated. Sure, it's the preparation games, but they've got a decent mix of running game, agressive perimeter defense, realy fluid set plays with a lot of running around along with set screens and long range activity. I really like their game. At eurobasket it's normaly not all about the individual quality and if Latvia manages to advance from the idea they are having right now and pefrect it they can be a tough match for just about anyone in the already tough group, potentialy they could become one of those positive surprises of the championships. It's too bad Bertans won't be playing for them, as he would fit in this game style to the upmost.
You might have been right when you criticized my rankings. I am also surprised by their results so far, though it's - as you mentioned - only preparation games

Joško Poljak Fan
08-05-2013, 11:06 AM
It's pretty easy screwing up both ways as considering the group Latvia plays in they could easily end up pretty low in the end, no matter their game. They've had enormous troubles with Krstić, that still doesn't imply they can't fix that untill the championship or that they'll suffer the same against other players, but they're showing some nice game and occasionaly raining threepointers when everything else fails. And we've seen that worked for quite some teams in the past.
Anyway, it'll be much easier to evaluate these teams after 2-3 weeks or so even if evaluating them now isn't completely irrelevant either. It's still early for me to claim anything, just describing my feelings :)

sambaras
08-05-2013, 02:00 PM
Looking forward to the first friendly match for Lithuania. It will be broadcasted at 19:15 Lithuanian time on TV3, in case anyone's interested.
Yes,i am very much interested.I want to see Kleiza:D Thank you

Mindozas
08-05-2013, 02:12 PM
Yes,i am very much interested.I want to see Kleiza:D Thank you

He won't play tonight. Kalnietis and Valanciunas too. I guess you'll have to wait till tomorrow for 2nd game vs Belgium

sambaras
08-05-2013, 02:20 PM
He won't play tonight. Kalnietis and Valanciunas too. I guess you'll have to wait till tomorrow for 2nd game vs Belgium
No problem Lithanuian games are always enjoyable:)

Pagat77
08-05-2013, 02:21 PM
Belgium played two very low scoring game vs Holland. Anybody watched that games maybe?

hustlerlt
08-05-2013, 05:12 PM
Juskevicius is such a scrub. Cizauskas is pretty terrible today also, but at least he's still only 20 years old. Also, our every SG today suck. Well maybe not suck, but they're completely invisible. The most notable player so far is Motiejunas, who gives a lot of effort on both sides of the court, but that already lead to a few dumb decisions on his part. Overall a pretty good first game for Lithuania so far. They're clearly trying to get their offense going strictly through bigs and that is working pretty well. Can't wait to see Motiejunas and Valanciunas duo on the court at the same time.

macleopard13
08-05-2013, 06:15 PM
What a fast-paced game today against Belgium. Defense sucked for the most part, but there were signs of hope. We came up with only one turnover from full-court pressure. Offense wasn't too good either, with both young point guards not asserting themselves today. But we've still got plenty of time to improve. I hope to see a better game tomorrow against Belgium.

madmax
08-05-2013, 06:19 PM
it's obvious that Motiejunas is head and shoulders above any other lithuanian player individually (except for Valanciunas and Kleiza of course). So he scores anytime he wishes so basically, especially against pedestrian opponent like Belgium. The PG position remains our biggest achilles heal - all of our young PGs are terrible at this point. Hopefully Kazlauskas will somehow manage to mask this huge weakness...

pablonis
08-05-2013, 11:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjbMfHn4rR4

buterbrodas
08-06-2013, 06:40 PM
beautiful high-scoring,high-flying, great-shooting game from LTU as they beat powerhouse Belgium 66:53. Kleiza and Motiejunas led the team in scoring,Kleiza also added a goregeous elbow to the neck of a opponent. Overall no room for improvment on LTU side, i wish Eurobasket could begin tomorow,before players lose their form.

auris1
08-06-2013, 07:17 PM
beautiful high-scoring,high-flying, great-shooting game from LTU as they beat powerhouse Belgium 66:53. Kleiza and Motiejunas led the team in scoring,Kleiza also added a goregeous elbow to the neck of a opponent. Overall no room for improvment on LTU side, i wish Eurobasket could begin tomorow,before players lose their form.
God,another full time basketball "expert" .

Federoy
08-06-2013, 07:22 PM
as they beat powerhouse Belgium 66:53

That gave me a good laugh.

auris1
08-06-2013, 07:44 PM
That gave me a good laugh.
Damn it ,don't feed the troll.
Or maybe i am just too sensitive.That time of the year I guess)

Pero Antic
08-06-2013, 08:05 PM
Croatia - Macedonia 74:78 in Slavonski Brod
Antic didnt play...there are some isurance things which have to be done because he moved to Atlanta.

PS: Samargjiski only played 5min because of an injury in the game but nothing seroius right now

macleopard13
08-06-2013, 10:43 PM
beautiful high-scoring,high-flying, great-shooting game from LTU as they beat powerhouse Belgium 66:53. Kleiza and Motiejunas led the team in scoring,Kleiza also added a goregeous elbow to the neck of a opponent. Overall no room for improvment on LTU side, i wish Eurobasket could begin tomorow,before players lose their form.

I don't get the point of your sarcasm. Lithuania obviously has a lot to work on, but it's just the friendlies - games don't mean much.

lbj_19
08-07-2013, 05:16 PM
Was looking at scores of the friendlies and saw turkey being beaten by double digits. Why is that? They have a deep team IMHO.

Hepcat
08-07-2013, 05:54 PM
Who emerged on top in the mini-tournament involving Slovenia, Serbia, Latvia and Turkey anyway? I understand that Turkey went 0-3.

:confused:

israel6
08-07-2013, 06:00 PM
Israel 81
Poland 65
lior eliyahu 19 + 6 reb + 6 asists
omri casspi 14 + 11 reb

Mindozas
08-07-2013, 06:21 PM
Who emerged on top in the mini-tournament involving Slovenia, Serbia, Latvia and Turkey anyway? I understand that Turkey went 0-3.

:confused:

Slovenia won all 3, 2n Serbia, 3rd Latvia, 4th Turkey

Joško Poljak Fan
08-07-2013, 08:47 PM
Don't get mislead by Turkey going 0-3, as I keep saying, they've got a traditionaly slow start. Their guards will remain their weak link, however when Ilyasova, Acik, Hedo will be playing as well, they're not to be underestimated.

christodoulou76
08-07-2013, 08:55 PM
Israel 81
Poland 65
lior eliyahu 19 + 6 reb + 6 asists
omri casspi 14 + 11 reb

welcome to the forum, israel6! :)

Toxicity
08-07-2013, 09:53 PM
Italy – Georgia 85-69

Italy: Cavaliero (0/1 da tre), Mancinelli 4 (1/3, 0/1), Poeta 4 (2/2), Melli 6 (2/4, 0/1), Vitali 4 (1/3), Cusin 1 (0/2), Datome 10 (5/6, 0/1), Diener 5 (0/2, 1/2), Rosselli 4 (2/2, 0/1), Magro, Cinciarini 8 (4/6, 0/1), Gigli ne, Belinelli 21 (8/10, 1/2), Moraschini ne, Gentile 8 (4/7, 0/1), Aradori 10 (2/3, 2/3). All: Pianigiani
Georgia: Boisa, Tsintadze 12 (1/4, 2/5), Shermadini 18 (4/5), Markoishvili 7 (2/6, 1/6), Patsatsia 1 (0/1, 0/2), Sanikidze 14 (1/4, 2/3), Metreveli 2 (1/1), Tskitishvili 6 (1/3), Burjanadze 5 (0/3, 1/1), Lezhava 2 (1/1, 0/3), Pkhakadze 2 (1/1, 0/2), Zeller (0/2) da tre. All: Kokoskov

Tiri da 2 Ita 31/50, Geo 18/53; Tiri da 3 Ita 4/14, Geo 6/24; Tiri liberi Ita 11/14, Geo 27/33. Rimbalzi Ita 32, Geo 32. Assist Ita 14, Geo 12.
Usciti 5 falli: Cusin

Italy NT without Bargnani (pulmonary infection) and Gigli started with Rosselli (1.99 height) at 4... great game by Belinelli, head and shoulders above the rest of players. Nice ball-movement on offense for Italy and many fast-breaks... Diener showed why he's the best passer/assist-man in Italy.

israel6
08-07-2013, 11:09 PM
welcome to the forum, israel6! :)

Thanks my friend :)

lbj_19
08-08-2013, 03:30 PM
Don't get mislead by Turkey going 0-3, as I keep saying, they've got a traditionaly slow start. Their guards will remain their weak link, however when Ilyasova, Acik, Hedo will be playing as well, they're not to be underestimated.

did they play in this mini tournament?

Mindozas
08-08-2013, 04:13 PM
did they play in this mini tournament?

Turkoglou played in 2 games except the one vs Slovenia, Ilyasova didn't

christodoulou76
08-08-2013, 06:50 PM
Russia destroyed by Latvia by 20 pts. Latvia has more friendlies under its belt so we should take this result with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, not a good start for a Russian team decimated by player absences and managerial turmoil.

christodoulou76
08-08-2013, 07:00 PM
Poland beat Germany comfortably 87-75 with 5 players with double digit point totals and Koszarek with 13 assists. Poland looking like it could be a dark horse in the tournament, especially if Gortat returns to the team and is in fit condition by the start of proceedings.

auris1
08-08-2013, 07:15 PM
Anything to watch tonight?

UMUT_FB_LAL
08-08-2013, 07:16 PM
anything to watch tonight?

wnba.

macleopard13
08-08-2013, 11:41 PM
Poland beat Germany comfortably 87-75 with 5 players with double digit point totals and Koszarek with 13 assists. Poland looking like it could be a dark horse in the tournament, especially if Gortat returns to the team and is in fit condition by the start of proceedings.

Poland's got a good roster. They have a good chance of making it to the second round. The only problem for them - their bench players aren't exactly top notch.

EDIT: Latvia crushed the ailing Russia 72:52. Janis Blums shot 5/7 from behind the arc.

wardjdim
08-09-2013, 08:23 AM
Hmm.. Russia played without Shved and Sokolov, from what I see from the boxscore
Thus, even with all those problems, this result is misleading http://www.basket.ru/news/article/one/viewing/?newart=2872

As for Poland, they didn't beat Germany but Georgia http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/20511/08/64/79/45tWjMiP9bgSQ/

Links: Eurohoops.net btw..

UMUT_FB_LAL
08-09-2013, 08:24 AM
LOL that puts the strength of Poland in a whole other perspective

Dirtyh
08-09-2013, 09:27 AM
LOL that puts the strength of Poland in a whole other perspective
Yep, I can't see Poland as dark horse. Even if Gortat returns their backcourt is too weak. Spain and Slovenia are going to murder them and Croatia's overall level is also too much for them.

After Finland was drawn to group D I was pretty sure it's gonna be too tough to us. Now when everybody else except Greece are strugling I'm finding a little bit hope. Greece going to win that group without losing any game but then it's pretty open. I don't believe Turkey at all, Russia is playing with B-team and we are matching Italy very well if you look at the results of past. Most likely it's Greece, Italy and Russia in that order but I believe in our backcourt and red hot shooting.

lafa
08-09-2013, 11:21 AM
Hmm.. Russia played without Shved and Sokolov, from what I see from the boxscore


And Fridzon.

wardjdim
08-09-2013, 11:26 AM
Is it 100% sure that Fridzon is playing in the Eurobasket? I read at Eurohoops that he's out..

christodoulou76
08-09-2013, 11:37 AM
Hmm.. Russia played without Shved and Sokolov, from what I see from the boxscore
Thus, even with all those problems, this result is misleading http://www.basket.ru/news/article/one/viewing/?newart=2872

As for Poland, they didn't beat Germany but Georgia http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/20511/08/64/79/45tWjMiP9bgSQ/

Links: Eurohoops.net btw..

Oh yeah, that's right. A typo on my part. Not sure Germany is that much better than Georgia though. :D

lafa
08-09-2013, 11:37 AM
Is it 100% sure that Fridzon is playing in the Eurobasket? I read at Eurohoops that he's out..

http://www.gazeta.ru/sport/news/2013/08/09/n_3099301.shtml

Joško Poljak Fan
08-09-2013, 11:41 AM
Yep, I can't see Poland as dark horse. Even if Gortat returns their backcourt is too weak. Spain and Slovenia are going to murder them and Croatia's overall level is also too much for them.

After Finland was drawn to group D I was pretty sure it's gonna be too tough to us. Now when everybody else except Greece are strugling I'm finding a little bit hope. Greece going to win that group without losing any game but then it's pretty open. I don't believe Turkey at all, Russia is playing with B-team and we are matching Italy very well if you look at the results of past. Most likely it's Greece, Italy and Russia in that order but I believe in our backcourt and red hot shooting.
Welcome to the forum Dirtyh :) What's the situation with Erik Murphy now?

Group D promises to be murderous. One of the "big 4" Russia, Greece, Turkey, Italy will be left out from 2nd phase of competition by default as only 3 teams can pass. Whichever team from those 4 won't put up a really good game could soon end up in trouble. Italy will have a big advantage in basicaly home court like support, Greece is bringing some good quality roster, while Turkey won't be able to satisfy with a slow start and Russia is battleing a whole lot of absences and confusion.
Finland could upset those teams, as performance in the last eurobasket was no coincidence, however mostlikely 2 wins over those 4 teams + vs. Sweden would be needed. Less pressure and reportedly a really big fan support ussualy only Lithuania and Slovenia were used to having abroad could play a decisive part in it. I will definately cheer for you guys.

wardjdim
08-09-2013, 11:45 AM
http://www.gazeta.ru/sport/news/2013/08/09/n_3099301.shtml
That's why I still think that Russia can make it to the top12 ;-).. Actually Karasev was pretty good yesterday

auris1
08-09-2013, 12:06 PM
.... from what I see from the boxscore
........... http://www.basket.ru/news/article/one/viewing/?newart=2872

Ha ha,that is the Russian way to report the news.
Btw,it is official webpage(portal) of Russian bb federation,in case you wonder.
If only there was a way to do things easier -nope...

Navarro #7
08-09-2013, 03:35 PM
If I'm not wrong today Croatia amd Greece are playing a match. Can somebody give me a link? I've been looking for one but I can't find it.

Raz
08-09-2013, 03:39 PM
If I'm not wrong today Croatia amd Greece are playing a match. Can somebody give me a link? I've been looking for one but I can't find it.

Because there isn't one,unfortuntely.:(

Navarro #7
08-09-2013, 03:58 PM
Because there isn't one,unfortuntely.:(

But isn't the match going to be retransmitted on the TV?

wardjdim
08-09-2013, 04:50 PM
Sokolov playing this time and Russia has again a great start. Let's see their depth though

Starting lineup: Ponkrashov, Vyaltsev, Monya, Likhodey, Sokolov (Vorontsevich and Savrasenko just replaced the big guys indeed)

pimpekaustas
08-09-2013, 04:58 PM
If I'm not wrong today Croatia amd Greece are playing a match. Can somebody give me a link? I've been looking for one but I can't find it.

NOPE only live stats available http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/08/62/45/435U6saDMOXM/

wardjdim
08-09-2013, 05:36 PM
Kaimakoglou out due to a slight injury after only 34secs in the friendly match against Croatia

pimpekaustas
08-09-2013, 05:44 PM
žorić disapoitment again, it looks he plays much better in club than for NT

Psofimis
08-09-2013, 05:49 PM
Lol It seems we won with Printezis buzzer.:D
How did we manage to lose our 5 point difference in the last 30 secs??

Navarro #7
08-09-2013, 06:01 PM
Where is Spanoulis? Isn't he going to Eurobasket?

ffalkec
08-09-2013, 06:07 PM
Italy - Poland game will be on rai sport 1 tonight at 20:30. (I am watching rai sport on sattelite it is free to air)

Psofimis
08-09-2013, 06:08 PM
Where is Spanoulis? Isn't he going to Eurobasket?

He had some problem in his back(nothing serious) and stayed out of this game.

wardjdim
08-09-2013, 06:30 PM
Tony Parker in for France. Gelabale out. Benzing out again for Germany. Germany shooting very well so far. Up 4-12 so far

Lineups:
France: Parker-De Colo-Batum-Diaw-Ajinca
Germany: Schaffartzik-Gunther-Goffey-King-Pleiss

Russia beat Latvia by 6. Much improvement for them..

Navarro #7
08-09-2013, 06:45 PM
He had some problem in his back(nothing serious) and stayed out of this game.

OK, thank you.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-09-2013, 08:30 PM
France - Germany 74-66

Ajinca obviously feels great playing for NT. I kind of missed defensive German presence in the paint, but nevertheless a good performance, that along with Johan Petro being present will make me re-think about evaluating France back to the top3 teams. However I'll wait for a while before being certain French centers can stay out of foul trouble vs. more frontcourt packed teams than Germany. French are otherwise just a pleasure to watch with all that talent, with mostlikely the best backcourt at the championship.
Germany could use a go to guy talent, with one of those, the game could actually get much more interesting at the end. It didn't seem they would be missing a lot more than that really.

Italian Pride
08-09-2013, 10:12 PM
Italia – Polonia 76-65 (17-17, 41-32, 64-48)
Italia: Cavaliero 2 (1/1), Mancinelli 10 (1/2, 2/5), Poeta, Melli 9 (1/4, 1/2), Vitali 2 (0/1 da tre), Cusin 8 (4/6), Datome ne, Diener (0/1, 0/1), Rosselli 2 (1/2, 0/1), Magro, Cinciarini 4 (1/3), Gigli ne, Belinelli 10 (2/3, 2/4), Moraschini, Gentile 17 (4/7), Aradori 12 (2/4, 1/4). All: Pianigiani
Polonia: Wisniewski (0/3), Chylinski (0/1, 0/2), Lampe 24 (6/15, 1/2), Szubarga 10 (1/1, 2/4), Zamojski (0/3 da tre), Ponitka 9 (3/4, 1/1), Kulig ne, Waczynski 9 (1/2, 2/4), Hrycaniuk 2, Koszarek 6 (1/2), Gielo (0/1 da tre), Ignerski 2 (1/3, 0/3), Karnowski 3 (1/4). All: Bauermann

Tiri da 2 Ita 17/34, Pol 14/35; Tiri da 3 Ita 6/18, Pol 6/20; Tiri liberi Ita 24/25, Pol 19/23. Rimbalzi Ita 23, Pol 35. Assist Ita 18, Pol 9.
Usciti 5 falli: Cusin
Fallo antisportivo: Zamojski (Pol, 31esimo, 65-48)

Arbitri: Begnis, Sabetta, Filippini
Spettatori: 2.000

italy without Bargnani,Datome and Gigli...

bukefalos
08-10-2013, 12:38 AM
any website for friendly matches, results and boxscores ?

Psofimis
08-10-2013, 09:13 AM
Some highlights of Greece against Croatia from the official channel.(Only Greek baskets)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRYMhJbsrHY

pimpekaustas
08-10-2013, 10:02 AM
tomić was so lost, unbelievable... that guy

Psofimis
08-10-2013, 12:34 PM
Spanoulis came back to Athens so he will not play against Germany and France.(back pain)
Kaimakoglou fixed his broken nose today and probably will miss the match against Germany today.

christodoulou76
08-10-2013, 12:55 PM
Spanoulis came back to Athens so he will not play against Germany and France.(back pain)
Kaimakoglou fixed his broken nose today and probably will miss the match against Germany today.

Kaimakoglou will not play at all this weekend. Let's see if Vasiliadis or Perperoglou can show something good.

sambaras
08-10-2013, 04:24 PM
Any stream for Slovenia-Turkey please?

Psofimis
08-10-2013, 04:47 PM
Any livescore for Germany vs Greece?
Preferably from fiba.:)

sambaras
08-10-2013, 05:11 PM
Slovenia-Turkey
http://www.balkansport.info/showthread.php?35-BalkanSport-14

Migelitas
08-10-2013, 05:17 PM
Any livescore for Germany vs Greece?
Preferably from fiba.:)
http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/08/62/50/90FTiUnqEoArE/

Psofimis
08-10-2013, 05:18 PM
http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/08/62/50/90FTiUnqEoArE/

Perfect thx!:)

Psofimis
08-10-2013, 05:36 PM
OMG!Germany has 7.30 minutes to score.......

pimpekaustas
08-10-2013, 06:02 PM
link for france - croatia, please

Deschain
08-10-2013, 06:14 PM
Lol Turkey lost it with some style :D

SaliH
08-10-2013, 07:29 PM
^^


What happened?

UMUT_FB_LAL
08-10-2013, 07:42 PM
I turned it up when it was 32-40 for Turkey, then they started to relax (or continued to do so) because hey, they are up, then they played some shitty uncohesive basketball, then they sucked some more, then Slovenia got closer, then they sucked some more, then we saw that Tanjevic and the players don't click at all, then Goran Dragic beat their ass with a penetration with 3 seconds left, then they couldn't even get a final shot off and they got their ass beaten and then I asked myself why I am even watching this shit and then I told you about what I saw and then I clicked on Post Quick Reply

christodoulou76
08-10-2013, 07:49 PM
I turned it up when it was 32-40 for Turkey, then they started to relax (or continued to do so) because hey, they are up, then they played some shitty uncohesive basketball, then they sucked some more, then Slovenia got closer, then they sucked some more, then we saw that Tanjevic and the players don't click at all, then Goran Dragic beat their ass with a penetration with 3 seconds left, then they couldn't even get a final shot off and they got their ass beaten and then I asked myself why I am even watching this shit and then I told you about what I saw and then I clicked on Post Quick Reply

you're a funny dude. ;)

i am wandering why ilyasova isn't playing better at this point. any reason for this?

UMUT_FB_LAL
08-10-2013, 08:01 PM
you're a funny dude. ;)

i am wandering why ilyasova isn't playing better at this point. any reason for this?

He has always been an inconsistent player, he has the potential to be great if there's a system and seriousness, there isn't either
There just doesn't seem to be a connection between the players and Tanjevic

If Ataman was the coach, the players would try their absolute best for them and there would be a good system, I'm sure of that, and I'd have faith in the tournament.. Tanjevic' batteries have expired, but unfortunately the Turkish basketball president is a corrupt no-good that keeps him because he does what he wants

Deschain
08-10-2013, 09:34 PM
He has always been an inconsistent player, he has the potential to be great if there's a system and seriousness, there isn't either
There just doesn't seem to be a connection between the players and Tanjevic

If Ataman was the coach, the players would try their absolute best for them and there would be a good system, I'm sure of that, and I'd have faith in the tournament.. Tanjevic' batteries have expired, but unfortunately the Turkish basketball president is a corrupt no-good that keeps him because he does what he wants

What usually happens in Turkish NT is;

-"OK GUYS WE PLAY DEFENSE"

-"Oh, that's such a silly foul. but nvm, WE PLAY DEFENSE"

-"Oh, fucking ömer onan, another turnover. but nvm, WE PLAY TIGHT DEFENSE"

-"Oh, 3rd offensive reb in a row! but nvm, WE PLAY VERY TIGHT DEFENSE"

-"Oh, fuck, 5 points behind, let's get it back within 2. 3 pt missed. Nvm, we can jack it up on the next offense, WE PLAY SO VERY TIGHT DEFENSE"

-"Oh, screw this, let's bring Sinan in so he can play defense, he's so aggresive. DON'T GIVE UP GUYS, LET'S PLAY DEFENSE!"

-"Man, they are freaking lucky, the ball finds the open man. eeey, another three. Nvm, they can't drain it forever, LET'S PLAY DEFENSE!"

-"Oh god, Sinan at 3 fouls, 10 points behind, let's rest a bit. it's not that big, we'll jack up more threes and close this gap, don't give up LET'S PLAY DEFENSE!"

-"RUN RUN RUN RUN let's look like fucking fools and let's crash at every screen and throw ourselves to the floor. refs are idiots they'll call offensive foul on them. KEEP PLAYING DEFENSE!"

-"MEEEH! We're tired, it's already 15 points difference, we can't come back from this. Bring in the hammer if they try to attack our rim so they'll learn not to do it again. nobody messes with Turkey NT. WE DEFEND UNTIL WE DIE."

-"Fuck this, they're killing us on the break, they're fucking cheating, running is not a part of basketball. DEFENSE is. They are not defending, fuck, 20 points? I'm going home, hey, who's that, Dragic? let's kick him in the ass. Fuck you! Oh that's Nowitzki, he's screwing us overseas, let's smash him too! Because we're bunch of freaking pricks."

-Mr. Tanjevic: "You imbeciles are not playing. This is my fucking first time-out and you are fucking idiots, go play defense. that's all you've got to do. we can win without scoring any points. defense is best! and low tempo basketball. Low tempo is another best! Yeah, fuck slovenia, fuck greece, fuck lithuania and fuck stalin! Hey, Semih, you're branch of a fucking oak!"

-Mr. Turkoglu: "Ok, coach we play basketball, give me the ball to score and we take a medal."

-Team: "Wait a minute, that's genius! so we don't have to play DEFENSE any more!"

-YES FUCKING TURKEY FOR THE WIN! CHOP CHOP!

SaliH
08-10-2013, 09:56 PM
Oh boy, oh boy.......... Reading the last posts. I guess we, the turks are a bunch of freakin' masochists. We know that it would be hard and painful to watch our squad playing, but at the end we still support and watch them. :D

Levenspiel
08-10-2013, 10:07 PM
As far as I can remember, since 2005, no matter how we fare in actual tournaments, we terribly suck at preparation games... especially in the first ones... then it slowly gets better... and "sometimes" we play like a totally different team in the actual event... so, i didn't have the chance to see any games yet, but it cannot be worse than our pre-2006 WBC games, where we had one of our best results ever...

UMUT_FB_LAL
08-10-2013, 10:25 PM
Good post with a lot of things I recognize Deschain
Very crazy how the U16 team plays 100x smarter (or smart, in the first place) than the seniors

WHY does Tanjevic not take exhibition games seriously? Do you see Spain losing four exhibition games in a row? Never in a million years. This kind of thinking only makes weak and ambitionless. In whatever match it is, losing should never be okay, that's how you create winners, this is how you create losers..

When will this Demirel finally fuck off? You know, the guy that brags about winning the Mediterranean games? The guy that kisses a dictator's ass?

Deschain
08-10-2013, 10:39 PM
Good post with a lot of things I recognize Deschain
Very crazy how the U16 team plays 100x smarter (or smart, in the first place) than the seniors

WHY does Tanjevic not take exhibition games seriously? Do you see Spain losing four exhibition games in a row? Never in a million years. This kind of thinking only makes weak and ambitionless. In whatever match it is, losing should never be okay, that's how you create winners, this is how you create losers..

When will this Demirel finally fuck off? You know, the guy that brags about winning the Mediterranean games? The guy that kisses a dictator's ass?

The repeating pattern in our prep games is, all combinations of tall lineups are used. (that's why you see either one or two of Barış and Doğuş not dressing for the games.)
Tanjevic is stubborn even for a goat. When he switches to a more reasonable lineup in the championships, we play fine. if he doesn't, we loose every single game that is a bit difficult.)

This mainly creates a single major problem, The team plays a different thing in the championship than in the prep games.
One wonders why; what's the purpose of the prep games then?

I agree with you 100% on creating loosers; You just don't throw away games if even if when they're for nothing.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-10-2013, 11:58 PM
What happened with France - Croatia, sure it's a prep game only but 32 margin is kind of big?

Turkey led for the whole game, completely disabled our fast paced game, both teams played terrible, but a win is still a win. If it wasn't for Dragič's individual quality, it would get really bad for us. I expect a defeat tommorow, it's about time and I don't trust in teams going undefeated in the preparation games and it's an ideal chance as that's the last game Slovenia will play abroad.
Lakovič started to practice with the team just a few days ago and it showed, while I also hope this 2/19 from 3 point range was more of bad luck/coincidence that potentialy a promise for a repeat from the last championship. Turkey didn't even play any nasty zone to justify such percentage. I mean it shouldn't be happening again with Balažič, Blažič, Nachbar and D.Lorbek present unlike 2 years ago, but still leaves some pretty ugly aftertaste.

Picek
08-11-2013, 01:48 AM
What happened with France - Croatia, sure it's a prep game only but 32 margin is kind of big?

.second highest defeat in our basketball history..
highest one is -33 against The Dream Team on the opening of 1992. OG...
yup, frenchies are pretty much on the same level sa Johnson, Jordan, Bird and co...

raph
08-11-2013, 05:45 AM
Honnestly the gap is not meaningful. Croatian team was missing tomas & saric and considering how bogdanovic played, they would have provided solutions either for their partners or by their own scoring.
French team did not particulary defend that good, even though we had better rotations inside the paint. But our guards did not defend that well (again).

Basically the game was over at the end of the 1st quarter, as croats did not fight a lot (even though they shot more free throws, some calls being pretty generous). Pretty disappointed by tomic's performance, maybe croat guards did not help him a lot by trying to be the hero (and they were all shooting poorly..). They only tried to bounce back in the third quarter but they made too many mistakes to lower the initial gap. Bench was particulary awful btw.

Hopefully we will have a real game between greeks & french tonight.

pimpekaustas
08-11-2013, 07:01 AM
second highest defeat in our basketball history..
highest one is -33 against The Dream Team on the opening of 1992. OG...
yup, frenchies are pretty much on the same level sa Johnson, Jordan, Bird and co...

we are losers for years but nobody ever destroyed us, it seems this year we will make some new standards :S my bigest fear is, after failure on this eurobasket (which will surely come) that majority of our players decide to quit NT

Raz
08-11-2013, 10:39 AM
we are losers for years but nobody ever destroyed us, it seems this year we will make some new standards :S my bigest fear is, after failure on this eurobasket (which will surely come) that majority of our players decide to quit NT

Really dude,have some faith in your team.Your roster is pretty good even without some important players.And you played well against us (or so it seems,at least in offense).It's a matter of consistency really.You played terribly against France just a day after.If you improve your defense and find some consistency in offense you can go far.And don't forget,there's still enough time.I believe that Croatia this year can even make it up to the 5th-6th place if they are serious.

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 11:09 AM
Really dude,have some faith in your team.Your roster is pretty good even without some important players.And you played well against us (or so it seems,at least in offense).It's a matter of consistency really.You played terribly against France just a day after.If you improve your defense and find some consistency in offense you can go far.And don't forget,there's still enough time.I believe that Croatia this year can even make it up to the 5th-6th place if they are serious.

Why can't Croatia get higher than 5/6? It is slightly patronizing to give a ceiling to a team. Like "Sweden - if you try really, really hard and do everything well, maybe you can get 11th place." The reality is that 1-2 teams will get hot at the right time and make a surprising run in the tournament. That run can take a team way above their expected position (e.g. Greece 2005, FYROM 2011) - that is why a ceiling prediction, like the one you are making feels strange to me. But hey, we all have different approaches to this. :)

Dorian
08-11-2013, 11:20 AM
Croatia has a great roster and they could go far in the tournament. Ok they were horrible against France in a friendly game nearly a month away from the tournament. It happens.

How many times have we (Greece) done exceptionally well in friendlies only to suck later on when it mattered?

pimpekaustas
08-11-2013, 11:26 AM
Croatia has a great roster

and what is so great in our roster? no really, cant see it. i only see 217 cm heigh center who collects two rebounds in 25 minutes and cant defend anyone...

Dorian
08-11-2013, 11:56 AM
and what is so great in our roster? no really, cant see it. i only see 217 cm heigh center who collects two rebounds in 25 minutes and cant defend anyone...

So just because Tomic had a bad game you don't have a good roster? You do have very good players but you need to form a good team now. It's still early.

Raz
08-11-2013, 12:04 PM
Well,I think that Greece was one of the favourites back in 2005.We had one of the best rosters.Young,talented,ambitious.Add to that some missing players (e.g. Gasol) and i think that you wouldn't say it was a surprising result.

As for Croatia,I didn't mean it the wrong way.Especially in this tournament they have the chance for something better.It's just that reason (if the results go pretty much as expected and there are not significant surprises) doesn't let them look upwards.They have a good roster,but so do we,France,Spain,Lithuania,Italy,while Slovenia (even though I consider Croatia a more talented team) is playing at home.If they play close to their full potential and the results go their way,they could very well be a medal contender.But I didn't take that scenario,I took a more,let's say,"reasonable" one.One thing is sure though,these power rankings sometimes are laughable.

Dorian,of course friendlies don't mean much,they are only useful to come to some general conclusions,especially when they are against a strong opponent.That's why i said that there is still plenty of time.

pimpekaustas,why don't you show some faith?You have a great basketball tradition,a very good roster (believe me,any team would want Tomic in their roster),the only thing Croatia lacks is faith.From the fans and even from the players.You've always had pretty good rosters.

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 12:10 PM
Well,I think that Greece was one of the favourites back in 2005.We had one of the best rosters.Young,talented,ambitious.Add to that some missing players (e.g. Gasol) and i think that you wouldn't say it was a surprising result.

As for Croatia,I didn't mean it the wrong way.Especially in this tournament they have the chance for something better.It's just that reason (if the results go pretty much as expected and there are not significant surprises) doesn't let them look upwards.They have a good roster,but so do we,France,Spain,Lithuania,Italy,while Slovenia (even though I consider Croatia a more talented team) is playing at home.If they play close to their full potential and the results go their way,they could very well be a medal contender.But I didn't take that scenario,I took a more,let's say,"reasonable" one.One thing is sure though,these power rankings sometimes are laughable.

Dorian,of course friendlies don't mean much,they are only useful to come to some general conclusions,especially when they are against a strong opponent.That's why i said that there is still plenty of time.

pimpekaustas,why don't you show some faith?You have a great basketball tradition,a very good roster (believe me,any team would want Tomic in their roster),the only thing Croatia lacks is faith.From the fans and even from the players.You've always had pretty good rosters.

I seem to remember the 2005 Eurobasket a little differently. Our best players, Papaloukas and Diamantidis - although they had good Euroleague seasons in 2004-2005 had not been established yet as the superstars of European club basketball that they became in the years that followed. So I think that our victory was quite unexpected at the time, although on hindsight it does not perhaps seem as surprising. But maybe I am remembering it wrong. :D

pimpekaustas
08-11-2013, 12:19 PM
,while Slovenia (even though I consider Croatia a more talented team) is playing at home.


goran dragič alone is better than all croatian players together :D

Raz
08-11-2013, 12:29 PM
Fanis,I don't know.If you compare our team to the rest,you'll see that even before our players were dubbed superstars,we had good players with great experience,like Kakiouzis,Dikoudis,Fotsis,Chatzivrettas and Papadopoulos alongisde our guards who then went on to become some of the best.I'm not saying that we were clear favourites,but with the other teams missing so many players,we were definitely amongst the 4-5 best teams.

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 12:49 PM
Fanis,I don't know.If you compare our team to the rest,you'll see that even before our players were dubbed superstars,we had good players with great experience,like Kakiouzis,Dikoudis,Fotsis,Chatzivrettas and Papadopoulos alongisde our guards who then went on to become some of the best.I'm not saying that we were clear favourites,but with the other teams missing so many players,we were definitely amongst the 4-5 best teams.

Check this (http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_Jbf5-DqNI1wmoAIpbucYR0.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.se ason_2005.coid_6kJ2BA4GJTYSgbdn69Tdq2.articleMode_ on.html) out. I think it was a surprise.

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 12:50 PM
Fanis,I don't know.If you compare our team to the rest,you'll see that even before our players were dubbed superstars,we had good players with great experience,like Kakiouzis,Dikoudis,Fotsis,Chatzivrettas and Papadopoulos alongisde our guards who then went on to become some of the best.I'm not saying that we were clear favourites,but with the other teams missing so many players,we were definitely amongst the 4-5 best teams.

Check this (http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_Jbf5-DqNI1wmoAIpbucYR0.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.se ason_2005.coid_6kJ2BA4GJTYSgbdn69Tdq2.articleMode_ on.html) out. I think it was a surprise.

Psofimis
08-11-2013, 12:50 PM
In three hours begins the game France Vs Greece and we ll have links...

Raz
08-11-2013, 01:00 PM
Check this (http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_Jbf5-DqNI1wmoAIpbucYR0.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.se ason_2005.coid_6kJ2BA4GJTYSgbdn69Tdq2.articleMode_ on.html) out. I think it was a surprise.

Your link didn't appear at first,i had to quote to see it.Weird.

Well,Beating Russia was difficult,but I personally don't think they were that talented (with the exception of Kirilenko and Holden of course) and we had already beaten France comfortably in the group.The strongest team would be Spain,and if they had Gasol they would probably win the tournament.To tell you the truth i found the article a little demeaning for our team.:p They give too much credit to NBA players.

But hey,everybody is entitled to their opinion.

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 01:08 PM
Your link didn't appear at first,i had to quote to see it.Weird.

Well,Beating Russia was difficult,but I personally don't think they were that talented (with the exception of Kirilenko and Holden of course) and we had already beaten France comfortably in the group.The strongest team would be Spain,and if they had Gasol they would probably win the tournament.To tell you the truth i found the article a little demeaning for our team.:p They give too much credit to NBA players.

But hey,everybody is entitled to their opinion.

I agree with you that too much credit is given to NBA players when making predictions. Our victory in 2005 and defeat of the US in 2006 has changed that a little bit. Now only clueless American commentators still size up Eurobasketball fields by counting NBA players. ;)

Btw, the link should work in the original post - all you have to do is click on the word in blue font.

Raz
08-11-2013, 01:24 PM
Btw, the link should work in the original post - all you have to do is click on the word in blue font.

Yeah,i saw that now.Mine and my stupid screen's mistake.:)

pimpekaustas
08-11-2013, 02:10 PM
halftime croatia - germany 31 : 51

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 02:11 PM
In three hours begins the game France Vs Greece and we ll have links...

Heurtel, Tillie and Fournier out for France. Spanoulis, Kaimakoglou, Bourousis out for Greece. The three players likely to get cut from the final 12-man roster are out for France while three of our best players are out for Greece. Let's see what happens.

Italian Pride
08-11-2013, 02:15 PM
halftime croatia - germany 31 : 51

are you watching the match?any link?

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 02:16 PM
halftime croatia - germany 31 : 51

What the hell is wrong with Croatia? This is ridiculous. They have 3 of the top 15 players in the Euroleague last season according to average index rating (http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=Single&seasoncode=E2012&cat=Valuation&agg=PerGame) for the entire season, and would have had four if Planinic were playing:

Tomic (4)
Bogdanovic (8)
[Planinic] (9)
Zoric (15)

No other Eurobasket team has more than one player in the top 15. They should be better than this...

pimpekaustas
08-11-2013, 02:26 PM
are you watching the match?any link?

no, only live stats. hope that we can watch greece/france and srbija/slovenija

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 02:29 PM
no, only live stats. hope that we can watch greece/france and srbija/slovenija

link to livestats?

pimpekaustas
08-11-2013, 02:31 PM
http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/08/62/46/575XAhx5nDBwo/

H. SCHAFFARTZIK is killing us :D

Italian Pride
08-11-2013, 02:32 PM
no, only live stats. hope that we can watch greece/france and srbija/slovenija

thanks :)

france-greece http://www.sportcategory.com/c-6.html

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 02:48 PM
http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/08/62/46/575XAhx5nDBwo/

H. SCHAFFARTZIK is killing us :D

Schaffartzik is 7/10 from 3-pt range! :eek:

madmax
08-11-2013, 03:21 PM
In three hours begins the game France Vs Greece and we ll have links...

good...can't wait for it:cool:
this could very well be a prelude to the upcoming EC final as well

Picek
08-11-2013, 04:02 PM
Croatia has a great roster and they could go far in the tournament. Ok they were horrible against France in a friendly game nearly a month away from the tournament. It happens.
31-51 against Germany at HT..
-10 at the end..
usually I'm always optimistic about us, and always hoping.. for years now, or decades now..
this year I have abandoned all hope even before the preps started, simply because we are losers..
championship is being played in our backyard..
and only a loss of 30-40 points, to Slovenia for example, can save our basketball. .
that way Radić would hopefully have another heart attack and hopefully wouldn't survive that one..
'cause while breathing he will never leave his position in our basketball..
some of the losers would also say goodbye to the team so atleast upcoming good generations wouldn't be training with losers..
losing mentality? it's contagious you know..
Ukić and Tomas got it from Giriček, Vujčić and others..
Bogdanović got it from Ukić and Tomas..
Popović and Planinić realized that by themselves..
so they decided not to infect anyone any more with their losing mentality..
we should thank them for that..
I was in S&M in 2005.
I will be in Slovenia 2013.
I will lose my nerves and I will lose my voice..
but when it comes to expectations, there are none..
also, there is no hope..

Italian Pride
08-11-2013, 04:10 PM
link france-greece?

Psofimis
08-11-2013, 04:26 PM
link france-greece?

http://www.bestsportgo.tv/20130811/vv-618725-basketball-5206ce75851960.32277806.html

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 04:26 PM
good first quarter for Greece except for FT %. The zone defense looks a little wonky but I am glad that they are trying different schemes. I have to say; Zisis is playing well. Lauvergne, Petro, Ajinca impressive for France.

France improving its defense in Q2.

Btw, is it too much to ask of Trinchieri to wear a pair of pants. ;)

Florent Pietrus looks annoyed for some reason.

France's backup guards a little suspect at the moment. Gelabale good as always.

Greece would be screwed without Mavrokefalidis. With the injuries and other absences, he has become our most important player, I think.

Dorian
08-11-2013, 04:56 PM
good first quarter for Greece except for FT %. The zone defense looks a little wonky but I am glad that they are trying different schemes. I have to say; Zisis is playing well. Lauvergne, Petro, Ajinca impressive for France.


Agree about Zisis. Pleasant surprise.

Lauvergne causing damange since no one can defend in the paint. We must have conceded 80% of the points (FTs aside) from inside the paint.

KWSN-Men
08-11-2013, 05:00 PM
Stats link?

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 05:01 PM
also, if someone provides a stats link, can you let us know how we can access fibalive stats in general? what is the main webpage for that?

We're getting crushed on the boards 20-12. France has a tall athletic team (at least at the 3-5 positions) but that is not a good sign for us.

We are now officially getting destroyed inside. very troubling. Summary of last 3 minutes: Ajinca dunk. Ajinca dunk. Ajinca dunk.

Raz
08-11-2013, 05:03 PM
Zisis is extraordinarily good.Maybe he needed more playtime?I don't know.I gotta say,this Lauvergne guy has a bright future ahead of him if he continues improving.Very agile fellow.

Good game from us so far.Our defence needs work though,for example you can't leave Mavrokefalidis (who is in superb condition btw) alone against guys like Petro in the low post.Also,the FT% is gonna cost us in the tournament if it remains so low.And the shots will not always go in,we should keep that in mind.

KWSN-Men
08-11-2013, 05:06 PM
Zissis is always dependable.

He is going to disappear when it matter the most.

Remon
08-11-2013, 05:12 PM
Link down for everyone?

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 05:27 PM
Very impressed with our NT. Trinchieri doing a great job so far.

Dorian
08-11-2013, 05:32 PM
Frech speaker saying Greece are further into their preparation. Did the French preparation start yesterday or something? We were among the ones to start the latest

Psofimis
08-11-2013, 05:36 PM
Damn we re good....:p

Navarro #7
08-11-2013, 05:56 PM
These Greeks are not bad. And Spanoulis watching the game...

Psofimis
08-11-2013, 05:58 PM
These Greeks are not bad. And Spanoulis watching the game...

Spanoulis,Kaimakoglou and Bourousis.

Still cant find fiba stats....

CG
08-11-2013, 06:00 PM
Very nice performance indeed

Mindozas
08-11-2013, 06:03 PM
Spanoulis,Kaimakoglou and Bourousis.

Still cant find fiba stats....

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/08/62/47/19iwn4pvhjJ5Q/

Psofimis
08-11-2013, 06:07 PM
http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/08/62/47/19iwn4pvhjJ5Q/

Thx!
How did you find it?

Edit:Parker and Batum had only 2 points each...

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 06:12 PM
Frech speaker saying Greece are further into their preparation. Did the French preparation start yesterday or something? We were among the ones to start the latest

The French commentator said many things...including that Mavrokefalidis plays for Barcelona and that France was playing badly because they were tired from having to play 3 straight games (unlike Greece?). ;)

Mindozas
08-11-2013, 06:13 PM
Thx!
How did you find it?

On twitter

I guess original source for this tournament was this http://live.ffbb.com/

Dorian
08-11-2013, 06:17 PM
The French commentator said many things...including that Mavrokefalidis plays for Barcelona and that France was playing badly because they were tired from having to play 3 straight games (unlike Greece?). ;)

Indeed! Many positive signs but Parker and Batum clearly not ready. Let's hope we'll keep improving though and Bourousis is needed BADLY.

christodoulou76
08-11-2013, 06:18 PM
On twitter

I guess original source for this tournament was this http://live.ffbb.com/

Excellent, thank you!

Hepcat
08-11-2013, 09:24 PM
So I understand the final standings in this mini-tournament were:

Greece 3-0
France 2-1
Germany 1-2
Croatia 0-3

:)

Joško Poljak Fan
08-11-2013, 10:26 PM
Serbia - Slovenia 91-66
Nedović 20, Krstić 16 +10, Bjelica 15; Nachbar 20, G. Dragič 9

Overall I'm a bit dissapointed by poor effort and giving up when some of the players considered the ref decisions as unjust. Serbia dominated under the rim and with boards especialy with Katić+Krstić playing at the same time and left little chance for fast breaks to us. Vidmar and Begić once again had some clumsy inputs but are overall improving. Glad to see Nachbar waking up for the first time. Lakovič wasn't in the roster for the game, but yesterday reportedly hasn't felt any troubles with his back. No secret I'd prefer a healthy Jaka in the team to Prepelič which was obviously the worst player on our roster for whole preparations, nevermind the extensive minutes he received and even when including Lapornik and Morina.

Ayrfon
08-11-2013, 11:42 PM
wow Jololo was very good for France and Leo had the same PIR as Parker :p

inaminute23
08-12-2013, 07:58 AM
GB beat Puerto Rico 61-55 yesterday at a near full house in The Copper Box, London. It was a very scrappy game with very poor fg % from both teams. GB have plenty to do before Slovenia, but what you can guarantee is desire and hard work. GB play Puerto Rico again today, behind closed doors.

Alyosha12
08-12-2013, 09:09 AM
The only thing that is extremely worrisome for me is, FT%. I don't remember seeing a team, with such god awful FT%... And it's not just a question of low volume of FTs taken. We shoot 30 FTs and make 14? That is amazingly bad and could cost us a lot of close games... We simply have to fix it somehow...

pimpekaustas
08-12-2013, 09:48 AM
serbia like last few years dominating in preparation games :D bad sign for them

Srle
08-12-2013, 12:31 PM
Why should that be bad:rolleyes: Those young guys need some confidence before Eurobasket starts . Its a brand new team , full of new players who are learning how to play together. They need some wins .

sambaras
08-12-2013, 04:05 PM
Any links for Lithuania-Sweden?

Migelitas
08-12-2013, 04:12 PM
Any links for Lithuania-Sweden?
http://www.sport24.lt/embed/15487/2/lithuania-sweden.html/popup

sambaras
08-12-2013, 04:17 PM
http://www.sport24.lt/embed/15487/2/lithuania-sweden.html/popup
Thanks:)

madmax
08-12-2013, 05:18 PM
http://www.sport24.lt/embed/15487/2/lithuania-sweden.html/popup

sorry, not working...but thx for the effort anyway

auris1
08-12-2013, 05:42 PM
sorry, not working...but thx for the effort anyway
Nothing works,i gave up

christodoulou76
08-12-2013, 10:07 PM
Does anyone have a link to that Spanish site that has info on all the preparation games for all the teams? Not sure if that kind of site has been created for this Eurobasket...

Migelitas
08-13-2013, 05:50 AM
Does anyone have a link to that Spanish site that has info on all the preparation games for all the teams? Not sure if that kind of site has been created for this Eurobasket...
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=95955

xmarcinx
08-13-2013, 06:41 AM
You can also check http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/coid_0jsUInEAI9Es,Ozgb-Ven1.articleMode_on.html

Miškinis
08-13-2013, 09:33 AM
Nothing works,i gave up

Although I'm a bit too late, but all games that were/will be played at home were/will be broadcasted on http://www.sportotv.lt/ (check out the schedule). Though I'm not sure if it's available abroad.

The last game (Lithuania vs. Sweden):

etZlrfDzzKY

rocketstar47
08-13-2013, 10:22 AM
This is my predicition TOP 6
that will qualify

1. France - the 2011 Silver medalist, a lot of talents within their team
2. Slovenia - since they are the host country i think the crowd will be at their back
3. Russia - the Olympic Bronze medalist, dont take them lightly w/o Kirilenko and etc veterans they are still dangerous
4. Italy- i think they are back with a vengeance
5. Lithuania - they should forgot their last 2011 performance

6- Greece
Turkey
Macedonia
Bosnia
Serbia
Germany

hustlerlt
08-13-2013, 10:34 AM
Although I'm a bit too late, but all games that were/will be played at home were/will be broadcasted on http://www.sportotv.lt/ (check out the schedule). Though I'm not sure if it's available abroad.

The last game (Lithuania vs. Sweden):

etZlrfDzzKY
That site works abroad, but still, yesterday absolutely nothing worked. That site would continuously work for a few minutes and would just go down. I know that there were a lot of people that couldn't get any streams to work.

wardjdim
08-13-2013, 10:44 AM
This is my predicition TOP 6
that will qualify

1. France - the 2011 Silver medalist, a lot of talents within their team
2. Slovenia - since they are the host country i think the crowd will be at their back
3. Russia - the Olympic Bronze medalist, dont take them lightly w/o Kirilenko and etc veterans they are still dangerous
4. Italy- i think they are back with a vengeance
5. Lithuania - they should forgot their last 2011 performance

6- Greece
Turkey
Macedonia
Bosnia
Serbia
Germany
Wow.. Post of the year?

Where is Spain, mate? Bosnia is better than them, I guess

christodoulou76
08-13-2013, 11:35 AM
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=95955

thanks!!!

PRSURF
08-13-2013, 05:29 PM
GB beat Puerto Rico 61-55 yesterday at a near full house in The Copper Box, London. It was a very scrappy game with very poor fg % from both teams. GB have plenty to do before Slovenia, but what you can guarantee is desire and hard work. GB play Puerto Rico again today, behind closed doors.Thats Puerto Rico B team, young players, so don't be so happy.

christodoulou76
08-13-2013, 08:50 PM
Poland beating Spain at HT 35-31.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-13-2013, 08:53 PM
Watching Spain vs. Poland, 31-35 at half time.
I am wondering where exactly is the point of playing preparation games and jacking up threepointers after 5 seconds. Not the first game in last week this question came to my mind.

Hepcat
08-13-2013, 08:56 PM
Maybe the coach wants the fellows to work on offensive rebounds...?

;)

Joško Poljak Fan
08-13-2013, 09:04 PM
Maybe the coach wants the fellows to work on offensive rebounds...?

;)
Definately haven't thought of that option before :D

edit: c'mmon. A guy falls over Rudy that's already on the ground and of course Rudy has to try to kick him along :S it's becoming a cliche

christodoulou76
08-13-2013, 09:40 PM
Definately haven't thought of that option before :D

edit: c'mmon. A guy falls over Rudy that's already on the ground and of course Rudy has to try to kick him along :S it's becoming a cliche

it will be interesting to see how these big egos on the Spanish team will react to not being as good as in past years. Poland looks like an excellent team. Bauermann is doing an excellent job, it seems.

NorCal
08-13-2013, 09:50 PM
What's the score of Spain-Poland?

christodoulou76
08-13-2013, 09:53 PM
What's the score of Spain-Poland?

Spain won 70-66 or something like that.

Joško Poljak Fan
08-13-2013, 10:22 PM
it will be interesting to see how these big egos on the Spanish team will react to not being as good as in past years. Poland looks like an excellent team. Bauermann is doing an excellent job, it seems.
Spain seemed as if playing for fun as some moves were pretty iresponsible/irational no matter the stage they are in at this moment. Not really my type of approach to be honest and am not really sure what they are up to, accordingly.

Poland will be upgraded compared to previous eurobasket and they haven't fared badly back than at all. Lampe and Gortat will play, Koszarek seems improved, while Ponitka is also a nice addition. Their bench is worrying and will restrain them from making some bigger impact in my opinion, especialy since they are in group B with Spain, Slovenia, Croatia and if I had to bet on other teams for an upset in that group, I'd mostlikely go with Czech (roster-wise, haven't yet seen them play this season). Although one of the 3 "favourites" kneeling could seal the deal vs. Poland, Bauerman will definately pull the most out of them as you said :)

Srle
08-13-2013, 10:25 PM
Pau-less Spain is always beatable .

madmax
08-13-2013, 11:04 PM
the last time Pau didn't play Spain fell flat on their butts in 2010 WC...and this time there's no extra quality of Navarro either. Granted, Spain can still go all the way purely on their backcourt talent alone, but Marc will have his hands full fighting in the paint against all the other euro bigmen for sure

Italian Pride
08-13-2013, 11:19 PM
were there Gortat, Szewczyk and Kelati?

Migelitas
08-14-2013, 05:12 AM
were there Gortat, Szewczyk and Kelati?
http://www.feb.es/Documentos/Archivo/Upload/130813SEAM_ESPPOL.pdf

barchen
08-14-2013, 10:30 AM
where to switch in this boxscore for russian stats? thx
http://basket.lv/viriesu_izlase/show-nt-game/?nt_game_id=149151&nt_season_id=9223#mbt:63-4400$t&0=1

christodoulou76
08-14-2013, 11:33 AM
http://www.feb.es/Documentos/Archivo/Upload/130813SEAM_ESPPOL.pdf

this boxscore seems inaccurate. Spain wins by 4 but their index rating is 90 while Poland's is 53. Come on...

Migelitas
08-14-2013, 11:56 AM
this boxscore seems inaccurate. Spain wins by 4 but their index rating is 90 while Poland's is 53. Come on...
yes, it is a rare thing, but sometimes happens
Another example. (http://www.lkl.lt/rungtynes/20130502/lietuvos-rytas-zalgiris/) Team wins by 6 , and eff. by 26

Italian Pride
08-14-2013, 12:02 PM
http://www.feb.es/Documentos/Archivo/Upload/130813SEAM_ESPPOL.pdf

thanks...

Poland's frontilne with Gortat and Szewczyk is the strongest of the next EC ...

christodoulou76
08-14-2013, 12:04 PM
yes, it is a rare thing, but sometimes happens
Another example. (http://www.lkl.lt/rungtynes/20130502/lietuvos-rytas-zalgiris/) Team wins by 6 , and eff. by 26

no, I know that index rating and points are not always perfectly correlated but this discrepancy is very large. it seems suspicious to me, but then again who cares. it's just a friendly. it's not like inaccurate statistics are ever gathered for official games...;)

Joško Poljak Fan
08-14-2013, 12:15 PM
thanks...

Poland's frontilne with Gortat and Szewczyk is the strongest of the next EC ...
I personaly would replace Szewcyk with Lampe as I am not in particular fan of Simon's bball IQ, but overall it's true Poland is pretty strong under the rim. It will be interesting to see how Bauerman will try to exploit that and compete compared to previous championship where Poland under Pipan was quite overperforming imo.

TomaszPe
08-14-2013, 01:42 PM
I personaly would replace Szewcyk with Lampe as I am not in particular fan of Simon's bball IQ, but overall it's true Poland is pretty strong under the rim. It will be interesting to see how Bauerman will try to exploit that and compete compared to previous championship where Poland under Pipan was quite overperforming imo.

Szewczyk is no longer with Polish team as he decided to leave the preparation phase about a week ago due to 'personal reasons'.

Bauermann stated that although Lampe gained his weight and lately played as C, he will use Gortat and Lampe playing together on the court, so Lampe will be used as PF.

Poland is quite strong under the basket (Gortat, Lampe, Ignerski, Karnowski - he made a big progress last year in Gonzaga) but our pg are not superb and at the moment not in good form. Hopefully, Bauermann will be able to figure out how to deal with it and Poland will be able to compete - expectations are high :)

Regards

Remon
08-14-2013, 03:43 PM
no, I know that index rating and points are not always perfectly correlated but this discrepancy is very large. it seems suspicious to me, but then again who cares. it's just a friendly. it's not like inaccurate statistics are ever gathered for official games...;)

Without looking at the boxscore, the big difference in rating happens when one team commits many fouls, which is a minus for them, that lead the other team to FTs, which is a plus for them. Combined those two make for pretty big difference, even if that isn't reflected on the final score.

EDIT: Now that I read the boxscore, it seems we're both partialy right. Spain had many more FTs and less fouls than Poland, but there are errors, if you read the total fouls of each team, on the spanish side it shows 14 committed and 22 received, and on the polish side it says 20 committed and 12 received.

pablonis
08-14-2013, 04:53 PM
Valanciunas feasting on the poor Swedes. 16pts and 6rb in the 1st quarter.

macleopard13
08-14-2013, 05:02 PM
Valanciunas feasting on the poor Swedes. 16pts and 6rb in the 1st quarter.

Kuzminskas remains a stable and a reliable player. 13 points in the first half, 3/3 from downtown.

Pero Antic
08-14-2013, 05:14 PM
Kuzminskas remains a stable and a reliable player. 13 points in the first half, 3/3 from downtown.

in 3days Macedonia plays a friendly in Skopje against Lithuania how is the situation there who will play for your team?

auris1
08-14-2013, 05:27 PM
http://www.hahabar.com/20130813/v-basketball-620122-520a90b3a9ba76.24465329.html
working Lithuania vs Sweden link

macleopard13
08-14-2013, 05:54 PM
in 3days Macedonia plays a friendly in Skopje against Lithuania how is the situation there who will play for your team?

I guess you'll just have to wait for Saturday ;).

Picek
08-14-2013, 07:31 PM
the last time Pau didn't play Spain fell flat on their butts in 2010 WC...and this time there's no extra quality of Navarro either. Granted, Spain can still go all the way purely on their backcourt talent alone, but Marc will have his hands full fighting in the paint against all the other euro bigmen for suresure, but then again they were with Scariolo in 2010..
Scariolo is out now.. they gained more with getting rid of Scariolo then they lost with not having P. Gasol..

macleopard13
08-14-2013, 08:13 PM
Spain beat Poland 70-66 in its first friendly game.

pablonis
08-15-2013, 01:34 AM
Valanciunas is going to drive a lot of teams to despair...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFrmvEb6Tdg

xmarcinx
08-15-2013, 11:58 AM
Any absences in today game Croatia-Montenegro? I've heard that Croatins won't play full roster.

Pagat77
08-15-2013, 12:48 PM
Any absences in today game Croatia-Montenegro? I've heard that Croatins won't play full roster.

Game is cancelled due to some injuries in CRO team. There will be a game tomorrow!

mrlietuvis100
08-15-2013, 01:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHib0HW9lHE Here is my mix about Lithuania National Team 2013.

Jon_Koncak
08-15-2013, 01:33 PM
Valanciunas is going to drive a lot of teams to despair...



hillarious vid.Were the refs lithuanians?No travelling,no 3 seconds,no double dribble on Jonas and a bunch of phantom fouls on those poor swedish centers.

macleopard13
08-15-2013, 03:54 PM
hillarious vid.Were the refs lithuanians?No travelling,no 3 seconds,no double dribble on Jonas and a bunch of phantom fouls on those poor swedish centers.

I watched the video again after your comment. I particularly paid attention to his pivot foot, which was planted in all of the episodes that I could see. I don't know where you get the three seconds from, he was battling for the ball, not just standing there for three seconds. Phantom fouls? They were holding him down from grabbing rebounds because he was so dominant. That constitutes a foul. He was lucky to not get offensive fouls a couple of times because he played a physical game, but those violations you mentioned didn't even occur.

madmax
08-15-2013, 04:16 PM
I watched the video again after your comment. I particularly paid attention to his pivot foot, which was planted in all of the episodes that I could see. I don't know where you get the three seconds from, he was battling for the ball, not just standing there for three seconds. Phantom fouls? They were holding him down from grabbing rebounds because he was so dominant. That constitutes a foul. He was lucky to not get offensive fouls a couple of times because he played a physical game, but those violations you mentioned didn't even occur.

why do you even bother?:rolleyes:
this poster is a joke account anyway, so no serious reply is required

israel6
08-15-2013, 05:52 PM
Stream or Play By Play for montenegro vs croatia ? :)

pimpekaustas
08-15-2013, 07:10 PM
Stream or Play By Play for montenegro vs croatia ? :)

i dont think game is today

pimpekaustas
08-15-2013, 07:38 PM
http://firstrownow.eu/watch/201204/1/watch-france-vs-serbia.html

france/serbia

unnamed
08-15-2013, 08:47 PM
http://firstrownow.eu/watch/201204/1/watch-france-vs-serbia.html

france/serbia
Saw the last minute of 4th qtr and ET. Seems like we are going to watch stupid decisions/moves in crucial moments once again from the Serbs. :rolleyes:

Miškinis
08-16-2013, 11:43 AM
in 3days Macedonia plays a friendly in Skopje against Lithuania how is the situation there who will play for your team?

It is clear right now that Kšištof Lavrinovič and Adas Juškevičius will not play. Kšištof will stay in Lithuania as his wife is about to give birth to his child. Adas will go to Germany as he is about to sign a contract with some german team. So 13 players will fly to Macedonia. The player that will be rested is unknown. Jonas Kazlauskas will announce the list just before the game (perhaps today). There are no injuries. Also Kazlauskas said that it's time to use more our main players. So it's likely that the player will not be one of our key players (like Kleiza or Valančiūnas).

Carick235
08-16-2013, 11:47 AM
wtbBokDJTUw

barchen
08-16-2013, 11:47 AM
what players have injury problems in CRO team now? the game was postponed yesterday ...

madmax
08-16-2013, 12:33 PM
wtbBokDJTUw

Tony does it again;)
redeeming himself for those miserable NBA finals already...

christodoulou76
08-16-2013, 01:13 PM
what players have injury problems in CRO team now? the game was postponed yesterday ...

several players have mental injury that prevents them from playing as well as they should given their skill level. ;)

Hepcat
08-16-2013, 01:38 PM
several players have mental injury that prevents them from playing as well as they should given their skill level. ;)

:D

Unfortunately that's the most contagious injury of them all on a team. It can even spread to the coach and leave him catatonic after games.

Picek
08-16-2013, 01:58 PM
what players have injury problems in CRO team now? the game was postponed yesterday ...
Žorić and Simon probably won't play..
Šarić could see some minutes..
Tomas and Tomić are back..

lafa
08-16-2013, 05:49 PM
Woa, anybody watchin' TUR-CZE? Last second Barton's bucket at end of the first half was amazing!

israel6
08-16-2013, 06:29 PM
stream or box score for Croatia - Montenegro / serbia - georgia please ?