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rikhardur
05-24-2012, 01:31 AM
http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B0B435800-979E-4339-9CDD-87D4446821F2%7D.jpg
http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.compID_UIfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.html


GROUP A
France
Serbia
Montenegro
Germany

GROUP B
Greece
Russia
Estonia
Ukraine

GROUP C
Turkey
Latvia
Georgia
Spain

GROUP D
Slovenia
Lithuania
Sweden
Italy

rikhardur
05-24-2012, 01:35 AM
Montenegro’s Generation Next

Montenegro have announced that rising star Nikola Ivanovic will play at the U18 European Championship in Lithuania and Latvia this summer and not at the U20 event in Slovenia.

The 1.87m guard was in last year's team at the U20 European Championship and averaged 9.4 points, two assists and 2.3 rebounds in 28.5 minute per game.

Montenegro finished seventh in 2011.

Coach Mihailo Pavicevic will also not call Nemanja Djurisic, who is hurt and unable to play.

The power forward poured in 14.3 points and corralled seven rebounds a game for Montenegro at the U18 European Championship in 2010.

Marko Todorovic of Joventut Badalona has been named in the 17-man preliminary squad for the U20 tournament.

The 2.10m center averaged 8.6 points, 7.9 boards, 1.1 blocks and 1.4 steals at least year's U20 European Championship in Spain.

Forward Radosav Spasojevic and guard Andrej Pajovic are the other two players who featured on last year's U20 team and will be returning this summer.

In Slovenia, Montenegro will face Germany, Serbia and France in Group A.

Montenegro preliminary squad: Andrej Pajovic, Bojan Ratkovic, Mihailo Kasalica, Ivan Fatic, Nemanja Grabovica, Milos Latkovic, Marko Mugosa, Radosav Spasojevic, Danilo Dragovic, Vukota Pavic, Danilo Nikolic, Marko Todorovic, Luka Radovic, Nihad Musovic, Filip Sekulic, Pavle Raickovic and Marko Kovac.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_9QtI94tJH-w8KqaW7famO2.articleMode_on.html

Mojado
05-24-2012, 01:40 PM
Germany
U-20 preliminary roster:

Besnik Bekteshi (Foto, EnBW Ludwigsburg/VfL Kirchheim Knights)
Mario Blessing (University of South Carolina Upstate)
Kevin Bright (TuS Urspringschule)
Sebastian Flle (ALBA Berlin)
Stephan Haukohl (Science City Jena)
Patrick Heckmann (Boston College)
Florian Koch (Telekom Baskets Bonn)
Mathis Moenninghoff (Gonzaga University)
Jarelle Reischel (Rice University/Rhode Island)
Johannes Richter (TSV Breitenguessbach)
Dennis Schroeder (Sport Up Braunschweig / New Yorker Phantoms Braunschweig)
Daniel Theis (Spot Up Braunschweig / New Yorker Phantoms Braunschweig)
Leon Tolksdorf (ALBA Berlin)
Johannes Voigtmann (Science City Jena)
Ole Wendt (webmoebel Baskets)

Source:Eurobasket.
There will be also Neumann of Bamberg and Kleber (Wuerzburg) in the mix, since both players are currently in the BBL play-offs.

pohani komarac
05-28-2012, 01:50 AM
serbian u-20

Bogdan Bogdanović, Ivan Marinković, Nemanja Bešović, Nemanja Mišković (Partizan mts), Aleksandar Cvetković (Crvena zvezda Diva), Nemanja Dangubić, Petar Lambić, Nemanja Krstić, Luka Mitrović (Hemofarm Štada),
Nenad Miljenović, Marko Luković, Andrija Bojić (Mega Vizura), Bogić Vujošević, Božo Đumić (Vojvodina Srbijagas), Luka Igrutinović (Proleter Naftagas), Đorđe Drenovac (Austrija), Strahinja Gavrilović, Marko Gujaničić, Stefan Nastić (SAD), Nikola Silađi (Radnički FMP), Aleksandar Marelja (Sloga), Goran Huskić (Radnički Obrenovac), Bojan Radulović (Olimpija, Slovenija), Stefan Popovski Turanjanin (Ostende, Belgija), Nemanja Bezbradica (OKK Beograd)

Joško Poljak Fan
05-28-2012, 10:05 AM
Funny thing... Bojan Radulović is currently with Slovenian U20 on preparations eventhough he mostlikely won't make the squad.

Slovenian preliminary:
Jan Špan (Maribor, 92', 189cm, PG)
Aljaž Korošec (Helios, 92', 188 cm, PG)
Luka Rupnik (Slovan, 93', 185 cm, PG)
Matic Urbas (Parklji, 93', 188 cm, SG)
Miha Vašl (polzela, 92', 192 cm, SG)
Klemen Prepelič (Helios, 92', 189cm, SG)
Matej Rojc (Krka, 93', 198 cm, SG)
Miha Lapornik (Laško, 93', 192 cm, SG)
Jaka Brodnik (Laško, 92, 203 cm, SF)
Jan Demšar (Škofja Loka, 92', 190 cm, SF)
Marko Filipovič (Parklji, 93', 203 cm, SF)
Alen Hodžić (Parklji, 92', 192 cm, SF)
Marko Pajič (Slovan, 92', 204 cm, PF)
Jure Besedič (Helios, 92', 205, PF)
Gezim Morina (Olimpija, 92', 204 cm, PF)
Žiga Dimec (Laško, 93', 210 cm, C)
Alen Omić (Laško, 92', 215 cm, C)
Bojan Radulović (Olimpija, 92', 210 cm, C)
Žiga Fifolt (Krka, 93', 210 cm, C)
Urban Gorjanc (Helios, 92', 213 cm, C)


Playing at home this team should basicaly go for medals. They've got Sagadin as HC, one of potentialy most dominant centers on the tournament in Omić and seemingly quite some depth with Prepelič, Besedič, Brodnik, Rojc, Dimec, Lapornik getting decent minutes in Adriatic league and Pajič, Rupnik, Špan, Korošec pretty efficient for their age in 1st Slo league. Finaly a talented generation, it's been a while...

serbianhoops
05-30-2012, 06:34 PM
Bosnian Alen Omic, Serbian Bojan Radulovic & Kosovar Albanian Gezim Morina in competition for the naturalized spot on the roster. However, Basketball Federation of Slovenia is desperately seeking to reach an agreement FIBA Europe about Morina.

A gold medal contender for sure.

serbianhoops
06-09-2012, 07:41 PM
Serbia U20 beat Slovenia U20 (97:75) in friendly game.

Pretty strange game with an out of order scoreboard (shot clock, time & fouls not visible for players, instead benches warn player in loud voices). Sagadin used both naturalized centers Omić & Radulović during the game, which won't be the case at the European Championship.

Scorers for Serbia: Top secret information :p
Scorers for Slovenia: Špan 11, Rupnik 9, Brodnik 1, Prepelič 14, Besedič 4, Hodžić, Omić 6, Rojc 6, Pajić 12, Lapornik 8, Radulović 2, Gorjanc 2.


Tomorrow, another friendly game, this time without attendance.

By the way, Klemen Prelepič who was expected at the Adidas Eurocamp in Treviso, will remain with Slovenia U20 squad and won't attend at that famous camp. Who cares of NBA anyway?

rikhardur
06-13-2012, 12:33 AM
Spain Combine Two Crops Of Champions

Spain's players will not be short of self belief when they run onto the court at the U20 European Championship this summer in Slovenia.

That was assured when coach Luis Guil included one gold medal winner after another in his preliminary squad of 19 players for the event, which tips off on 12 July.

The group has a mixture of gold medal winners from last year's team at the U20 European Championship in Bilbao like Jose Pozas, Alejandro Barrera and Joan Tomas, and players that won the 2011 U18 European Championship title like Guillem Vives, Jorge Sanz, Jaime Fernández, Daniel Díez, Alejandro Suárez, Alejandro Abrines and Julen Olaizola.

Last year's U18 European Championship appears to have served as a springboard for greatness for MVP Abrines.

The 1.97m forward played in six of Unicaja Malaga's Turkish Airlines Euroleague games and also featured in 18 Spanish Liga Endesa games.

He made headlines when erupting for a game-high 31 points in a game against Asefa Estudiantes in March, the highest amount by a Spanish player of any age in last season's Liga Endesa up to that point.

The 31 points also surpassed the mark set by Ricky Rubio for most points in a single league game by a player under the age of 19.

Rubio, who was a rookie with the Minnesota Timberwolves this season, had once scored 25 for Joventut Badalona.

Spain will start training for the U20 European Championship in Murcia on 17 June and will play an international warm-up tournament against Ukraine, Slovenia and Lithuania.

Spain preliminary squad: Jose Pozas, Jorge Sanz, Guillem Vives, Cristian Díaz, Joan Creus, Jaime Fernández, Alejandro Barrera, Albert Ventura, Alejandro Abrines, Miguel Servera, Daniel Díez, Joan Tomas, Mamadou Diop, Alejandro Suárez, Pier Oriola, Fran Guerra, Víctor Arteaga, Malick Fall and Julen Olaizola.
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_5Z,hj5cCJ5UmVejXrKVV20.articleMode_on.html

carlo
06-24-2012, 03:54 PM
U20 Turgut Atakol Tournament which ended today saw the participation of France, Germany, Poland (which is in Euro B-Group), Russia, Serbia and host Turkey.
Germany won the round-robin tournament ending 4-1 (only loss with Russia), followed by Turkey and France (3-2), Poland and Russia (2-3), last Serbia 1-4 (only win with Turkey).
Results, standings and box scores of each game can be found here (http://www.tbf.org.tr/turgutatakol).

carlo
06-25-2012, 04:59 PM
Dmitry Kulagin (Rus) will miss the Euro championship due to injury.

At Roseto tournament, Italy-Ukraine 74-61 with 19pts of Eric Lombardi (93).

carlo
06-27-2012, 10:40 AM
France final team named (http://www.ffbb.com/_edf/page_m.php?d=actu&p=actu&id=8666).
Quite surprisingly, Evan Fournier, Rudy Gobert and William Howard are out.

French team will participate to Domegge di Cadore tournament (28-30/6) with Croatia, Greece and host Italy.


P.S. Well, read that Gobert played for the frst time in the Senior NT today, see: http://www.ffbb.com/_edf/page_m.php?d=actu&p=actu&id=8668

carlo
06-29-2012, 10:42 AM
D1 results of Domegge di Cadore tournament (Ita):

France-Greece 75-65
Italy-Croatia 86-63 (Fabio Mian top scorer with 16).

Joško Poljak Fan
06-29-2012, 11:46 AM
Do you happen to have any boxscores for those two games?

carlo
06-29-2012, 01:52 PM
Italy-Croatia (http://www.fip.it/News.asp?IDNews=4937), but not France-Greece.

sinobball
06-30-2012, 01:22 AM
Montenegro U20 lost all 6 games in China. 55-83 China NT, 62-69 Serbia (University team?), 71-81 Croatia (not sure what team), 71-79 China NT, 61-84 Serbia, 65-91 Croatia. But they look young and have a lot of talent.

carlo
06-30-2012, 06:49 AM
Italy-Greece 75-66 and Croatia-France 63-55 in Day2 of Domegge tournament.
Box score of Ita-Gre game here (http://www.fip.it/News.asp?IDNews=4940).

Joško Poljak Fan
06-30-2012, 09:00 AM
Slovenia - Lithuania 93-89 in Murcia (21:22, 20:23, 28:23, 24:21)
Prepelič 24, Omić and Morina 16

pohani komarac
06-30-2012, 09:49 AM
Montenegro U20 lost all 6 games in China. 55-83 China NT, 62-69 Serbia (University team?), 71-81 Croatia (not sure what team), 71-79 China NT, 61-84 Serbia, 65-91 Croatia. But they look young and have a lot of talent.

they say it's B team---but it's more D team with some B level players. all members of xl basketball agency

carlo
06-30-2012, 11:45 AM
Slovenia - Lithuania 93-89 in Murcia (21:22, 20:23, 28:23, 24:21)
Prepelič 24, Omić and Morina 16

While Spain lost to Ukraine 67-52. Mishula 14, Bobrov 13, Dani Diez 13.
http://www.feb.es/NoticiaDesarrollo.aspx?idNoticia=42926

carlo
07-01-2012, 07:12 AM
Various tournaments update:

Domegge, France-Italy 83-56 and Greece-Croatia 81-73. France is tournament's winner. Summary with Italy's games box scores here (http://www.fip.it/News.asp?IDNews=4948).

Murcia, Spain-Slovenia 79-59, summary here (http://www.feb.es/NoticiaDesarrollo.aspx?idNoticia=42938).

sagenas
07-01-2012, 09:46 AM
Lithuania beat Ukraine - 82:71.

Vytenis Čižauskas (14), Paulius Vaitiekūnas (10) ir Eigirdas Žukauskas (10). Edgaras Ulanovas - 9, Dovydas Redikas ir Žygimantas Skučas — po 8, Arnas Butkevičius — 7, Tautvydas Sabonis — 5, Rolandas Jakštas and Evaldas Aniulis — 4, Rokas Giedraitis — 3.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-01-2012, 06:10 PM
Thanks for the links carlo :)

Slovenia ended up beating Ucraine 71-64 behind Omić's 24 + 12 reb's.

Although they don't lack of height Slovenia has suffered on the defensive rebounding part and by Sagadin't words doesn't react as expected on agressive defense.

I just realised Spain won the last U20 as well as U18 tournament, meaning they'll basicaly have almost a whole team out of players that have already won a gold in junior competitions. That's something worth of recognition.

carlo
07-01-2012, 07:07 PM
Last news on Murcia Tournament:

Lithuania beat Spain 69-63, thanks to a great game by Dovydas Redikas (23+5 reb). Summary and box score here (http://www.feb.es/NoticiaDesarrollo.aspx?idNoticia=42944).

And this is Slovenia-Ukraine box score (http://www.feb.es/Documentos/Archivo/Upload/UCR-ESL.pdf).

ofkovac
07-08-2012, 11:49 PM
slovenia - spain 74:54 and 80:74 in friendly matches in slovenia...

carlo
07-09-2012, 10:07 AM
Slovenia looks in good shape, also beat twice Italy in exhib games played at home.
France on paper also very strong, but depending on availability of its stars Fournier, Westermann, Gobert.

Guard
07-09-2012, 11:39 AM
Slovenia looks really tough with some interesting prospects. lots of experience as well in pro leagues.
to me they are among favs for gold. serbia also strong.
dont see much from spain,italy nor france with some missings.

carlo
07-09-2012, 11:58 AM
Preview of the incoming tournament found on Eurohopes: http://www.eurohopes.com/news/1690/u20-european-championship-the-preview/

Just for memo: on the same dates Div B championship will take place in Sofia, BUL. Interesting to see if such talented teams like Croatia and Poland will be able to bounce back into Div A !

Joško Poljak Fan
07-09-2012, 12:21 PM
With Fournier France would be undisputable no.1 candidate for the win, they could as well win it even without some of their top prospects imo.

Unlike some coaches in the past Sagadin has unlimited authority over U20 Slovenian team, while nevertheless since this is the most we can expect from our bball NT's in the summer, they've got all eyes on them and could crack on the pressure (relatively big for this stage) just as it happened with 87' generation the last time we were hosting this tournament. It's a tournament and those ussualy are pretty tricky.

carlo
07-09-2012, 04:19 PM
Croatia U20 without some injured players: Boris Barac (back), Marko Ramljak, Toni Katic, Filip Najev
https://twitter.com/eurohopes/status/222339342247526400

P.S. Div B of course

carlo
07-09-2012, 08:31 PM
France-Greece 67-47, with Labeyrie (20), Gobert (11), Westermann, Jean-Charles and Invernizzi.

Box score of Slovenia-Spain game2: http://www.feb.es/Documentos/Archivo/Upload/ESL-ESP2.pdf

pohani komarac
07-09-2012, 11:17 PM
https://twitter.com/eurohopes/status/222339342247526400

P.S. Div B of course

i opend b devision section, we don't deserve to be metnion here. it's huge disgrace for us to play b division

carlo
07-10-2012, 10:10 AM
Italian team announced:

Abass Awudu Abass (196, G/A, '93, Bennet Cantů)
Cefarelli Dario (199, A/C, '93, Otto Caserta)
Ceron Marco (192, G, '92, La Fortezza Recanati)
Cicognani Giacomo (204, C, '92, Acmar Ravenna)
Laganŕ Marco (188, G, '93, Angelico Biella)
Mian Fabio(194, G, '92, Liomatic Group Bari)
Parrillo Salvatore (190, P/G, '92, Fmc Ferentino)
Saccaggi Lorenzo (189, P, '92, Giorgio Tesi Group Pistoia)
Spizzichini Gabriele (193, P/G, '92, Consum.it Siena)
Tessitori Amedeo Vittorio (204, C, ’94, Consum.it Siena)
Tourč Mohamed (189, P/G, '92, Paffoni Omegna)
Traini Andrea (180, P, '92, La Fortezza Recanati)

From: http://www.fip.it/News.asp?IDNews=5004

Not selected, among others, Giovanni Pini (2.05, 1992), Raphael Gaspardo (2.04, 1993), Matteo Chillo (2.00, 1993) and Matteo Imbrň (1.90, 1994).

carlo
07-10-2012, 05:06 PM
Slovenia U20 team finalized:

PG: Rupnik, Rojc, Špan
SG: Prepelič, Vašl, Lapornik
SF: Brodnik
PF: Pajič, Morina, Besedič
C: Omič, Dimec


http://twitter.com/SLO_Basketball

carlo
07-10-2012, 09:12 PM
French final roster:

GOBERT Rudy 2.13 1992
INVERNIZZI Hugo 1.96 1993
JEAN-CHARLES Livio 2.03 1993
JULIEN Axel 1.85 1992
KURTIC Dzenan 2.06 1992
LABEYRIE Louis 2.09 1992
PELOS Pierre 2.05 1992
PINDA Kingsley 1.95 1992
POURCHOT Vincent 2.22 1992
THALIEN Kevin 1.90 1992
TOUPANE Axel 2.00 1992
WESTERMANN Léo 1.98 1992

http://www.ffbb.com/_actu/page_m.php?d=actu&p=actu&id=8716

sixama23
07-11-2012, 12:50 PM
Greek NT departed yesterday from Athens. They are in Slovenia right now.

Final squad is:

Anastasios Antonakis F 2.03 09.02.1992
Marios Dermitzakis PF 1.97 24.06.1992
Nikolaos Kampouris C 2.05 02.06.1992
Giannoulis Larentzakis PG 1.90 22.09.1993
Petros Melissaratos C 2.02 10.04.1993
Spyridon Motsenigos G 1.90 01.01.1992
Spyridon Panagiotaras PG 1.80 09.04.1993
Efstathios Papadionysiou PG 1.89 15.09.1992
Konstantinos Tsaprounis C 2.07 24.11.1992
Emmanouil Tselentakis SF 1.92 24.05.1993
Petros Velissariou PG 1.84 20.04.1993
Fotios Zoumpos SG 1.90 04.04.1993

Coach: Kostas Missas
Assistants: Giannis Eleftheriadis - Giorgos Limniatis

serbianhoops
07-12-2012, 03:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hovKsUbQwWk

c-myers
07-12-2012, 05:07 PM
turkey-spain any stream?

carlo
07-12-2012, 09:03 PM
Some big games in the opening day.
Favorite France was edged by Germany (winner of the recent Turkey international tournament) in spite the winners missed their best player Daniel Theis for almost the entire game (injury).
Spain clearly overcame Turkey, while Greece got a narrow win over Ukraine in OT.
Host team Slovenia confirmed its favorite status defeating Italy 81-68 after having led most of the game.

Carick235
07-13-2012, 02:21 AM
Serbia - Montenegro 90-73

Top scorers in Serbia were Nemanja Bešović with 18 points and Nenad Miljenović with 16, while Aleksandar Cvetkovic had most assists - 5.

carlo
07-13-2012, 06:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9g_2RoV12o&feature=youtu.be&a

carlo
07-14-2012, 06:17 AM
Slovenia-Sweden 70-69, game of the day. Sweden was up 69-65 with less than 1' to go but was edged in the final seconds by host team.
Summary and video highlights of the game here (http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.compID_UIfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2012.gameID_8753-D-3-2.html).

carlo
07-14-2012, 12:59 PM
Spain-Latvia, summary and video highlights (http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2Ym8GSJEAe2vpbWdQMR0.compID_UIfgjyQcGqk-fPlnl66Tj0.season_2012.gameID_8753-C-4-2.html).

Carick235
07-14-2012, 07:31 PM
Serbia finished the first phase with three wins, Serbia-France 70-67. Nemanja Bešović was again top scorer with 17 points, followed by Cvetković (14), Miljenović (13) and Bogdanović (12).

carlo
07-14-2012, 08:40 PM
Serbia, Russia, Spain and Slovenia top their groups and finish undefeated the prelim round.
Incredible win of Russia over Greece, overcoming 11 pts deficit in the last 5' !

Joško Poljak Fan
07-15-2012, 05:28 PM
Group E:
Serbia 2-0
Russia 2-0
Greece 1-1
Germany 1-1
France 0-2
Ukraine 0-2

Group F:
Spain 2-0
Slovenia 2-0
Italy 1-1
Turkey 1-1
Lithuania 0-2
Latvia 0-2

Carick235
07-17-2012, 01:08 AM
Serbia-Ukraine 82-53, and with this victory we already secured place in the quaterfinals.

carlo
07-17-2012, 12:01 PM
Serbia and Slovenia are the only teams being 3-0 in this round.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-17-2012, 05:16 PM
Wow, both Italy and Lithuania made an upset, beating Spain. Italy considering their lack of height and Lithuania clearly with margin. Things are getting pretty interesting in F group.

So far I've got a feeling Slovenia was basicaly cashing in their absolute height advantage with an efficient inside game, could be they won't be able to do that vs. Turkey to the same extent, guards will imo have to show some improved performance to pull this one.

Dreamcatcher
07-17-2012, 08:43 PM
Looking forward to see Turkey-Slovenia ending...

c-myers
07-17-2012, 08:52 PM
Sloveni 72- turkey 71 what a dramatic defeat. We could be the group leader could win. There are live or die match with Lithuania tomorrow.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-17-2012, 09:57 PM
Referees were lost in the second half, so honestly either team would easily deserve a win. I hate those unclear games.
Tekin scored 4 seconds to go, than when everybody expected Prepelič to finish by himself, he found Morina for a game winner (http://tvslo.si/predvajaj/morina-zadel-v-zadnji-sekundi/ava2.141228960/).

As predicted guards had to step on in this one, Prepelič scored 29 even with some unlucky shots along. Whole Slovenian game is build from lots of ups and downs through the whole championship now, yet the thing that counts is they managed to pull it off again.
Looking at Turkeys roster few minutes ago I realised majority of their players are 93' born, well... Turkey obviously has quite some good material for the next championship, Candan, Tekin, Geyik, they'll definately be a team to watch in 2013.

turk-jugoslav
07-18-2012, 09:09 AM
I was wondering Alen Omic's performance.He was worse than I expected.he is 2.15 with good size but Ramazan Tekin and Onur Çalban have also good height and size.Çalban looks 2.06 in roster at Fibaeurope website,I don't think it is true.He looked 2.10-2.11 to me.Tekin looks 2.12 at website but his teammate told me that he was 2.16 m at the last Turkish U18 championship.Anyway,Slovenia is gold medal contender but we are not.This generation(1992) won two bronze medals at 2008 and 2009 with Enes Kanter.Without Enes,It's very hard to win new one...
Prepelic is quality guard with good speed and ball-handling.I liked his decision in the last possesion of match.Many players think to shot immediately... He was calm and made right thing. Beside Omic and Prepelic,Slovenia has not many players who promise for future like us

Joško Poljak Fan
07-18-2012, 11:44 AM
Slovenian basketball school is clearly underestimating physical aspects of the game for too long now and that's getting pretty annoying with every year the same, comparing anyone from our team to Turkish 93' borns I'd think the Turks are actualy 91' born and our tem must be 93' :)
Transition to senior level is always delicate, yet I'm hoping 93' born Rupnik, Lapornik and Dimec would improve on physical area within time, while from the rest Pajič imo has a talent to once become an euroleague role-player, he didn't show that yesterday though.

Migelitas
07-18-2012, 06:11 PM
What a situation. Slovenia wins, Lithuania - second in this group, Spain wins, Lithuania only the fifth.

Lietuvis
07-18-2012, 06:16 PM
Is that correct?

from: http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/coid_dRLFSEoGGZYt5hjMcWvut1.articleMode_on.html

<snip>
However, there is a possibility of a five-way tie, if Turkey, Spain and Italy all lose.
No matter what the number of teams in the same position is though, the tie-breaking criteria remain first the head-to head record and then the head-to-head goal differential.
Lithuania and Latvia definetely need a win to keep their chances alive and will have to rely on point difference in what can be a three-way, a four-way or even a five-way tie to book a place in the next round.
</snip>

From the why i read it, this means because we lost to Latvia and Italy we would finish 4th based on head to head? (We beat Turkey and Spain) Although we will have best goal differential.

Am I missing something?

Migelitas
07-18-2012, 06:21 PM
if Slovenia wins:

Slovenia 5/0, the rest 2/3 and head to head 2/2. than:

Lithuania 43
Spain 8
Latvia 3
Turkey -20
Italy -34

If Spain wins, Slovenia 4/1, Spain 3/2, the rest of the group 2/3
Than
Turkey 2:1
Latvia 2:1
Lithuania 1:2
Italy 1:2

Deschain
07-18-2012, 07:05 PM
Traditional choke by Turkey. After yesterday's game.
Still with a chance to advance tho. Spain victory over Slovenia is somewhat unlikely tho.


Turkey gets destroyed by Spain and Lithuania every year in U categories. Basketball style probably is more important in these levels.

Şafak Edge, i think is the guard Turkish BB needs. Hopefully we'll see him in the NT in the EC'13 quali'es. He's confirmed to join the team after U20 champ.

pablonis
07-18-2012, 08:09 PM
Never really thought that highly about Maksvytis as a coach and this tournament sort of proves my skepticism about him. Without Valanciunas to compensate for the often streaky game, we see the results - obliterating Turkey and Spain and loosing to Latvia in-between... :rolleyes:

Hope it all turns out well at the end nonetheless. The core of Cizauskas/Redikas/Ulanovas alone is supposed to be enough to do well.

Migelitas
07-18-2012, 08:36 PM
Thank you, Slovenija
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GEORGE_4
07-18-2012, 08:57 PM
Spain is terribly weak under the basket!!! They lost three games in a row but got the quarterfinals though...

Joško Poljak Fan
07-18-2012, 10:07 PM
The only prediction I dare making is Serbia going past Latvia. Silins and Timma are great, both impressed me (and Latvia missing Dukulis & Bertans, that's some damn nice forward lineup), yet they'll imo have too much troubles fighting Serbia's height advantage to stand a substantial chance.

Spain didn't impress me, while not seeing enough of Germany due to bad broadcast to make a general call, yet as George_4 said, Spain lacks some efficient inside game and that's supposedly Germany's strenght.

If Slovenia will manage to play 30 minutes consistant instead of only 20, I see them passing, yet that's a big if. On some 5 minute spans Slovenia looks incredible, while on some other just as frequent occasions commiting TO's resulting in easy fastbreaks, missing layups, and hogging the ball destroying everything made in those good periods.

No idea about Greece vs. Lithuania

Hepcat
07-19-2012, 05:14 PM
Well we'll see tomorrow whether the Serbians are as strong as they've looked this tournament winning all their games in their group handily. The Slovenians of course also won all their games but two were by just one point and three others were close.

:confused:

lafa
07-20-2012, 12:43 PM
Is there any streaming of QF?

+36, didn't think it'd be so one-sided...

GEORGE_4
07-20-2012, 01:56 PM
+36, didn't think it'd be so one-sided...

Lithuania simply destroyed Greece... it was 26:21 in 2nd quarter and 57:27 ten minutes after...

Redikas din´t play at all - is he injured???

lafa
07-20-2012, 02:26 PM
Lithuania simply destroyed Greece... it was 26:21 in 2nd quarter and 57:27 ten minutes after...

Redikas din´t play at all - is he injured???

yes, his eyebrow was cut last game, maybe there's some swelling...

Dreamcatcher
07-20-2012, 08:35 PM
WOW, unexpected huge loss by hosts in 1/4...

Serbia - Lithuania
Spain - France

carlo
07-20-2012, 08:35 PM
Today's biggest upset, France-Slovenia 77-54 (32-28) !

Joško Poljak Fan
07-20-2012, 08:49 PM
Westerman played a brilliant first 5 minutes of the 3rd period, just when it seemed France basicaly has no hope in offense than from 2nd chances. Prepelič gets irritated way too fast as ussual, Omić couldn't calm down as well, than after 8-24 in 3rd quarter, Gobert with some huge blocks, ref's with some strange calls and Slovenia was unable to pick themselves up mentaly to even try to cut down the margin. Westerman had by far the best performance I've seen on this tournament. Contrats France, well deserved. Slovenia, as ussual, physicaly way too uncompetitive at this stage and that's the worst possible deficit when playing against France.
My love for Lamonica of course stays the same :)

auris1
07-21-2012, 05:52 PM
Fuck yeah .
That was a roller coster.
Once again,my heart is bumping like crazy.
Lithuania managed to get to the finals without Valanciunas.
Oh my gosh.
That is an achievement for the guys ,not surpassed by any gold medals they had won before.
Even silver medals,guaranteed now,sounds so sweet.
Even for me,sometimes there is such a thing as over indulgence from basketball .
After seeing Lithuania loosing to Germans by one point in under 16, I was very reluctant to watch this game.
Last 15 minutes anyway.
With two minutes left,I thought we were dead and buried,so bad the game was for us.
No free throws,no three pointers either.
No rebounding.
Every call went to Serbians,and rightly so.
And I had no hope.
But...
Those guys had to prove I guess something to themselves more than Serbians.
Or maybe this generation of Serbians did not believe they can win.
But it did happen .
What a joy.
Now,I am going to make a joke
Maybe we have to say thank you to Dzikic,maybe he is that bad as a coach

pablonis
07-21-2012, 06:02 PM
The commentator on FIBA TV kept on insisting that Lithuania's win would be an upset. I mean c'mon... Sure Serbs were great so far and Lithuania shaky to say the least, but looking at the last decade or so, this Lithuanian generation was one of the most dominant youth teams in Europe and even without Valanciunas is talented enough to win another gold.

auris1
07-21-2012, 06:07 PM
The commentator on FIBA TV kept on insisting that Lithuania's win would be an upset. I mean c'mon... Sure Serbs were great so far and Lithuania shaky to say the least, but looking at the last decade or so, this Lithuanian generation was one of the most dominant youth teams in Europe and even without Valanciunas is talented enough to win another gold.
I noticed that too.
Not sure about a decade though.
Maybe four / five years they played each other.
But definitely commentator was favouring Serbs.
Look at this,look at that,oh how talented they are etc.
But it makes victory so much better.
And I have nothing against Serbians by the way on this

Hepcat
07-21-2012, 06:08 PM
Lietuva 73 Serbia 68

Team Lietuva won despite being decisively outrebounded 42-33 and outscored by six from the free throw line! Better ball management with four less turnovers by Lietuva and a 44.4% field goal percentage for Lietuva versus 40.4% for Serbia did it. Plus more composure by the Lithuanians in the last minute and a half.

:cool:

Darknemo2000
07-21-2012, 06:14 PM
Good game by Lith. A little bit unexpected as Serbia looked much stronger throughout the tournament, but the things are the way they are.

auris1
07-21-2012, 06:21 PM
Lietuva 73 Serbia 68

Team Lietuva won despite being decisively outrebounded 42-33 and outscored by six from the free throw line! Better ball management with four less turnovers for Lietuva and a 44.4% field goal percentage for Lietuva versus 40.4% for Serbia did it.

:cool:
I was at work and missed very beginning of the game,and I switched to under 16 game after I got home and seeing the scores,so only last fifteen minutes I can comment on.
But
It was a game of two teams who played badly.
And even in this type of the game one team comes on top.
Young players I guess,and pressure got better on both teams.
So not the game to watch again.
Who cares.
I think Serbs thought they had won with two minutes left.
Me too,actually.
But lucky call for eight seconds,plus the fact they had to fight for every point and we managed to answer same.
And no missed free throws in the end.
That's says a lot about a team.

pohani komarac
07-21-2012, 06:23 PM
lithuanian kids proved it's not just jonas. respect:)

personaly Cizauskas is kid I like. I belive Liths finali find replacment for Saras

auris1
07-21-2012, 06:32 PM
but the things are the way they are.
Ok mister guru)
I think you would say the same had we lost)
It still doesn't change the things of how good individual players are.
Team spirit ,and team work are working here,but this is their last tournament.
We should be proud of this.
As for individual players
Not that great
Not a fan of ,myself of Redikas
Sorry,all I see in him is another Janavicius
A leader of a youth team,in a good sense,but...no bright future.
I said it before,my favourite is Ulanovas
Great tournament for him ,and because of him .
Cizauskas is my second choice.
It can go either way for him.
And maybe we have lurker here as well.Few candidates

Darknemo2000
07-21-2012, 06:59 PM
lithuanian kids proved it's not just jonas. respect:)

personaly Cizauskas is kid I like. I belive Liths finali find replacment for Saras

No, Cizauskas is closer to Marciulionis in his style of play rather than Saras. he does not make all that many assists in the tournament. In fact until this game the teams assist leader was Sg Redikas. But Ciazauskas is a physically strong guard who can score well and rebounds well too.

From this team I like Ulanovas the best so far. Redikas and Cizauskas are good as well (Redikas is very good on defense and leads the tournament in steals) while Cizauskas is playing a good game overall even though he doenst have that genius passer skill like Saras. But I mean really, who does?

Carick235
07-21-2012, 07:13 PM
lithuanian kids proved it's not just jonas. respect:)

personaly Cizauskas is kid I like. I belive Liths finali find replacment for Saras

This was probably the worst game of Serbia on this tournament, deserved victory for Lithuania. Especially i must point out Miljenović, nothing was working for him, contrary to previous matches, missed bunch of 3p shots (1/5 3P FG), 2 shots in the last 5 min when it was needed (0/3 2P FG).

pablonis
07-21-2012, 07:16 PM
Not sure about a decade though.
Maybe four / five years they played each other.

By saying what i had said i meant that there were not that many generations in Europe in a long time, that would be as head and shoulders above everyone else as the Lithuania '92 born generation is.




Not a fan of ,myself of Redikas
Sorry,all I see in him is another Janavicius
A leader of a youth team,in a good sense,but...no bright future.

He was playing after suffering a concussion only a few days earlier.

He's fast, athletic, has a great shooting touch, is ferocious at defense and above all - he has that spark in his eyes, a swager so to speak. I, on the contrary, think he's the most promising one of the bunch (apart from Jonas).

Dreamcatcher
07-21-2012, 07:45 PM
lithuanian kids proved it's not just jonas. respect:)

personaly Cizauskas is kid I like. I belive Liths finali find replacment for Saras

He's strong guard, physically better than most of others, but i hardly see him being goog point guard.

Dreamcatcher
07-21-2012, 07:47 PM
Skucas is our "dark horse" in this tournament. He's far from being a great prospect, but managed to do a lot on the court.

auris1
07-21-2012, 07:52 PM
To Pablonis
"shoulders and above" you say.
Common,we all know why.
So personally ,I would not call it as generation per se.
they just happened to be on the winning team )
And they jut become ,as of today,that generation...
Not winning,not till tomorrow .
But with guts and such.
Regarding Redikas
Sorry.
And I hope i am wrong..
But still...
Yeah,today he was injured before,but even before that...

auris1
07-21-2012, 07:57 PM
Skucas is our "dark horse" in this tournament. He's far from being a great prospect, but managed to do a lot on the court.

Well,I meant opposite.
Being a great prospect,and not doing much today.
I am sure ,that most of the players don't peak till they are in a mid twenties.
It is just a matter for them to get into decent team and hibernate till then

auris1
07-21-2012, 08:07 PM
What we would rather play against?
France- sheer talent ,or Spain?
Good team play ?
I fancy our chances vs France.

Darknemo2000
07-21-2012, 09:22 PM
What we would rather play against?
France- sheer talent ,or Spain?
Good team play ?
I fancy our chances vs France.

I would rather play spain but we will get france. I say spain not because we won against them the first time but because Lithuania historically struggles against athletic team and thats what france is,

On the other hand the 92 generation is probably the most athletic generation we ever had in youth basketball, so who knows.

Tomorrow will show but I think lithaunia should hold their running as it would be hard to outrun france.

auris1
07-21-2012, 09:59 PM
I would rather play spain but we will get france. I say spain not because we won against them the first time but because Lithuania historically struggles against athletic team and thats what france is,

On the other hand the 92 generation is probably the most athletic generation we ever had in youth basketball, so who knows.

Tomorrow will show but I think lithaunia should hold their running as it would be hard to outrun france.
Well, Lithuania struggles more with Spain,historically.
Regarding France -sounds so easy,but we should try to outscore them.
Simple as that.
They will over rebound and over run us, that's for sure.
But they will miss a hell of the lot of shots.
So as long as we can get the game to 80 plus points,they should have no match for this

Darknemo2000
07-22-2012, 06:52 AM
Lets see. France eliminated us in the semis in U18 (when Valanciunas was playing for them though was younger and had his tournament game), we lost to them in 4 finals three times. Historically in youth coompetitions we usually struggle against France and Greece, resulst with spain on Youth level is on our side actually.

Darknemo2000
07-22-2012, 06:35 PM
Djikic is awesome. Only the fatty can screw up like that. Respect for Serbian youthteam to reach semis and look very good despite having the fat clown as a coach. Rytas new season looks very promising with him as a coach as well.

Vazzy
07-22-2012, 07:37 PM
+11 so far. ltu is going for gold!

Vazzy
07-22-2012, 08:24 PM
final score 50:49! congratulations all Lithuania fans!

Gytaz
07-22-2012, 08:24 PM
They did it again. This time without Jonas! I'm proud of these guys, they truly are our golden generation. http://www.miestai.net/forumas/images/smilies/lithuania.gif

pohani komarac
07-22-2012, 08:27 PM
congrats to lithanians. 92. born kids 4/4

lafa
07-22-2012, 08:27 PM
Honestly I didn't think they (Lithuania) could hold, but they did! Congrats!

lafa
07-22-2012, 08:28 PM
So as long as we can get the game to 80 plus points,they should have no match for this

King of funny reading this right now, isn't it?

LTbotd
07-22-2012, 08:28 PM
Fuck me, that's bad for health! 19 turnovers, 7 blocks on us, no 3point shooting, but still somehow we won!

auris1
07-22-2012, 08:32 PM
King of funny reading this right now, isn't it?
Yeah,because the score would had been 80 to 49.
Ugly game

Migelitas
07-22-2012, 08:32 PM
congrats to lithanians. 92. born kids 4/4

5/5. You must count 2007 Youth Olimpics in Beograd.

And one more thing. I'll repeat myself:


THANK YOU SLOVENIA.

lafa
07-22-2012, 08:33 PM
Yeah,because the score would had been 80 to 49.
Ugly game

You know the saying, better ugly win than nice loss ;)

Dreamcatcher
07-22-2012, 08:36 PM
Westerman got MVP for the final mistake :D

GEORGE_4
07-22-2012, 08:46 PM
Westerman got MVP for the final mistake :D

MVP trophy is in right hands...

Marty
07-22-2012, 08:47 PM
phenomenal generation

Darknemo2000
07-22-2012, 08:50 PM
MVP trophy is in right hands...

Yeah he truly sucked the most in the finals. Like a true MVP.

It would have been at least understandable if he had stats wise advantage over Ulanovas or Cizauskas but he did not. And adding icing to the cake he utterly sucked in the finals...

Hepcat
07-22-2012, 09:01 PM
You know the saying, better ugly win than nice loss ;)

Wow! When was the last time you saw a team at this level win any game let alone a Gold Medal championship game scoring just fourteen points in the second half?

:confused:

mbenga
07-22-2012, 09:10 PM
They did it again. This time without Jonas! I'm proud of these guys, they truly are our golden generation. http://www.miestai.net/forumas/images/smilies/lithuania.gif
I'm glad Lith won,you're always my second team but frankly i don't see anyone impressive in this generation besides Valanciunas. Ulanovas or Cizazuskas are fine players but not among the top prospects in Europe.

Didn't see the final but the bronze medal game was horrible, u-20 tournaments are always watered down but this year it's been ridiculous.

thegreekmeister
07-22-2012, 09:24 PM
I'm glad Lith won,you're always my second team but frankly i don't see anyone impressive in this generation besides Valanciunas. Ulanovas or Cizazuskas are fine players but not among the top prospects in Europe.


Thats why basketball is interesting, you do not necessary need star players to win in this team sport.

thegreekmeister
07-22-2012, 10:27 PM
Champs :)
http://p.twimg.com/AycA6qoCUAAbYAb.jpg:large

auris1
07-23-2012, 07:29 PM
I just want to ask your honest opinion people - does that French guy really deserves MVP?
I thought were was a rule that only player from winning team can get that title.
Or general understanding.
The guy ,who makes 2shots out of 16 in finals,and looses vital ball?
I just want to hear your opinion

Dreamcatcher
07-23-2012, 07:45 PM
Of course, he didn't deserve, no questions here.

serbianhoops
07-24-2012, 10:58 AM
Did Spain won Bronze Medal over Serbia at the U20 EC thanks to an out of bounds shot ?

4315

I leave it up to you to decide.

Carick235
07-24-2012, 11:31 AM
Did Spain won Bronze Medal over Serbia at the U20 EC thanks to an out of bounds shot ?

I leave it up to you to decide.

That's becoming tradition with Serbia.

Joško Poljak Fan
07-29-2012, 10:43 AM
Recap of some players by nbadraft.net (http://nbadraft.net/u20-european-championship-recap).