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ricodgame
09-18-2011, 07:48 PM
Preliminary Round Results

http://www.flags.net/images/largeflags/JORD0001.GIF
Jordan
vs. Syria 71 - 58 Win
vs Japan 87 - 92 Lose
vs. Indonesia 89 - 59 Win

http://www.flags.net/images/largeflags/PHIL0001.GIF

Philippines
vs. United Arab Emirates 92 - 52 Win
vs. China 60 -75 Lose
vs. Bahrain 113 - 71 Win

OSHAFA
09-18-2011, 08:01 PM
I have a Strong feeling that our NASHAMA gonna Shine tomorrow as unexpected !
Jordan for a Win with +10 pts :D

lebanese phoenix
09-18-2011, 08:12 PM
my mind says RP but my heart says Jordan.
If the pinoys are hitting their treys then its gona be hell for the jordanians and Rp will take it.
But if they're unlucky,Jordan will win this handily.

Jordan have the experience,pinoys got the speed,Jordanians can never be counted out,they know how to end a game,they play hard,this one is hard to predict but i thinnk it'll be a Jordanian -5 win.
close game with lead exchanged times and times again;)

all_about
09-18-2011, 08:13 PM
Philippines wins by 10 pts or less. With Lassiter and Lutz playing, it's gonna add more firepower from the bench production.

eliooo93
09-18-2011, 08:21 PM
Philippines win by 5.

IAmPersian
09-18-2011, 08:29 PM
Philippines win by +10

daniab
09-18-2011, 08:32 PM
Two days ago i put my money on Jordan to beat Japan but they disappointed me with the way they played, however ill go to Philippines, they have a full force and if they were hot from behind the arch, Jordanians will suffer to win!

vladski
09-18-2011, 08:38 PM
My fearless forecast is Philippines by 15+ win over Jordan.

budz17
09-18-2011, 08:59 PM
lassiter and lutz will give more depth for rp, adding defense in the wings and hopefully outside shooting. however, rp still struggling from 3pt territory.

been watching smart gilas for two years already. funny, before, they were only a 3pt shooting team with small players all over the place. now, they have more size in the frontcourt with the same players shooting from outside but they seem to have lost their touch. hope they regain their shooting touch starting with jordan game.

if they could make 40% from three, jordan will have no chance. if they struggle from outside, they can still win.

for me, philippines wins this game

Roseblade13
09-18-2011, 09:28 PM
Lutz and Lassiter has an advantage against their opponents due to having fresh legs. Let us see later

RedMetal
09-18-2011, 10:26 PM
Phillipines will win by 8pts.:cool:

raichu08
09-18-2011, 11:15 PM
Lassiter and Lutz will unleash their first round frustrations on this jordanian squad and beat them by 10.

kerouac82
09-18-2011, 11:36 PM
Philippines by at least 10. Wright will have his usual numbers, but the rest of Jordan will be shut down. Inside, I give the slight advantage to the Pinoys with Douthit. Aguilar's game will be the key here. Kelly Williams has been struggling but he's due for a breakout anytime soon.

Silent Killer
09-19-2011, 12:23 AM
so far, williams defense has no off nights. he plays good defense for the 1st 3 games of the tournament.

Bobbyd
09-19-2011, 12:28 AM
I would have to give a slight edge to the Philippines. They will be playing with a full roster now so that should help a great deal. Also, one of Jordan's best players, Sam Douglass, has been injured. He did not play in Jordan's last game against Indonesia. Has anyone heard if he will play today?

kingkobe
09-19-2011, 12:30 AM
if daghlas will not play its easy to predict philippines will win..if he will its gonna be a dogfight..:D

rocketstar47
09-19-2011, 01:06 AM
for me my predicition is, if could hit our outside shots we
can win this game but if we couldn't i think our team is in
cold water.:D


But i want Pinas win this one :)





MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS BASKETBALL!

ryanzerous
09-19-2011, 01:31 AM
this one is close, jordan is a good team w or w/o daghlas. i hope our shooting in the zone to make it more easy.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 01:35 AM
jordan wins a close contest, like a 3 to 5 point victory...

philippines will make it close... taking the lead at times... then with a few minutes remaining in the game, they will collapse and commit crucial turnovers that will cost them the game... thats how i see it...

dranny79
09-19-2011, 01:38 AM
i think sam dhagles will play as per tweet of chot reyes...
but i predict philippines will win this one w/ a full roster, if they win this one it will be a morale and confident booster going for their game against japan tomorrow w/c is a must win for us.

Gudluck guyz!

acklium
09-19-2011, 01:47 AM
its showtime!

NorCal
09-19-2011, 02:11 AM
any links for this game?

potz05
09-19-2011, 02:15 AM
Close game. An 8-point win for either team.

st_ang3r
09-19-2011, 02:26 AM
Close game, it will be a dogfight so i'll go with the winner will win less than 5 points.

reamily
09-19-2011, 02:59 AM
the factoir in this game would not be lutz and lassiter its the front court of Giulas who is doing fine in the first round..


don't put much pressure in the wing guys this time

psychopath
09-19-2011, 02:59 AM
jordan wins no if's nor but's, though its gonna be a close one

acklium
09-19-2011, 03:36 AM
jordan without daghles

prince75
09-19-2011, 06:03 AM
50 - 50, who will be hungrier and the team that will be lucky. A slight edge by Gilas if both plays at the same level with more or less the same stats. It will be a great game though.

donspark47
09-19-2011, 06:23 AM
Smart-Gilas Pilipinas will win the game...Japeth Aguilar, Chris Lutz and Marcio Lassiter will play big for succeeding games...that's our advantage...:eek::eek::eek:

basketball13
09-19-2011, 06:25 AM
I have a sense that Kelly Williams will shut Rasheim Wright to only 10-15 points in this one.. I hope so though its a hard task..

Cryotek
09-19-2011, 06:50 AM
Hope that the Phils. will win this one convincingly...shoots the lights out, please!!:p

paulezra
09-19-2011, 07:00 AM
philippines by 10 to 15....we cant win close games yet,its either we lose or we win it big.

sickcurtain_16
09-19-2011, 07:00 AM
Philippines by 13 pts. Easier game than expected.;)

kurtsabug
09-19-2011, 07:25 AM
Philippines by -11. the way i see it, gilas will struggle at the 1st half of the game but they will close the game on a high note :D

AlYuson
09-19-2011, 07:26 AM
Jordan defeated Philippines when they met in FIBA Asia 2007 & 2009. If team phils finally beat jordan, this might be in a tight contest..while jordanians just in case for the 3rd time, might win by a double digit margin against filipinos ;)

fadzki
09-19-2011, 07:27 AM
Gametime!

zik013
09-19-2011, 07:32 AM
Lutz and Lassiter were NOT allowed to play !!!

acklium
09-19-2011, 07:39 AM
Wtf is happening again! I thought pat bauman of fiba had already signed it!!!that hagop bitch!!!!!!!

jesronne
09-19-2011, 07:44 AM
why do fiba asia officials hate RP so much?

Bobbyd
09-19-2011, 07:48 AM
The game isn't being televised in China. I can't believe it. They showed the Malaysia-Iran game and then the Korea-Uzbekistan game. Two games that weren't worth watching. Now the Jordan-Philippines game is on, a game that should be a very good one and they don't put it on. Hope someone can update the score so I can follow the game. Thanks

kurtsabug
09-19-2011, 07:51 AM
Lutz and Lassiter were NOT allowed to play !!!

what happened?i thought they have a GO signal already to play tonight?

b3lowzro
09-19-2011, 07:51 AM
The game isn't being televised in China. I can't believe it. They showed the Malaysia-Iran game and then the Korea-Uzbekistan game. Two games that weren't worth watching. Now the Jordan-Philippines game is on, a game that should be a very good one and they don't put it on. Hope someone can update the score so I can follow the game. Thanks

17 - 10 in favor of Jordan

b3lowzro
09-19-2011, 07:52 AM
Lassister on the floor yeah!

crush
09-19-2011, 07:53 AM
its 17-11 jordan

LIVE STATS
http://static.sportresult.com/federations/fiba/live-2011-node/?event=5195&game=02

LIVE STREAM
http://pinoy-ako.info/more-videos/49748-fiba-asia-phl-smart-gilas-vs-jordan-live.html

kurtsabug
09-19-2011, 07:54 AM
The game isn't being televised in China. I can't believe it. They showed the Malaysia-Iran game and then the Korea-Uzbekistan game. Two games that weren't worth watching. Now the Jordan-Philippines game is on, a game that should be a very good one and they don't put it on. Hope someone can update the score so I can follow the game. Thanks

you can watch it here
http://www.gilaspilipinas.com/2011/09/fiba-asia-2011-free-live-streaming.html

crush
09-19-2011, 08:05 AM
lassiter now playing

zik013
09-19-2011, 08:10 AM
Lassiter is playing and scored 5 points. But even the livescore doesnt know that it is him :)

babdelkader
09-19-2011, 08:10 AM
I have a Strong feeling that our NASHAMA gonna Shine tomorrow as unexpected !
Jordan for a Win with +10 pts :D

All the way, go Jordan..

F-15Eagle
09-19-2011, 08:11 AM
and the philippines couldnt shoot..:D jordan's not doing great..its just that the philippines is doing worse:p

babdelkader
09-19-2011, 08:13 AM
Jordan rocks :) .... No need for that

Bobbyd
09-19-2011, 08:16 AM
Kurtzaburg and Crush thanks for the link.

zik013
09-19-2011, 08:18 AM
in an official scoreboard Lassiter is listed as #13 Undefined Undefined :)

F-15Eagle
09-19-2011, 08:18 AM
well what do you know its only 5 pts lead now:D

OSHAFA
09-19-2011, 08:21 AM
and the philippines couldnt shoot..:D jordan's not doing great..its just that the philippines is doing worse:p

That's my Point too !
and now being in the lead and the opponent coming back is becoming a Habit for us :mad:

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 08:21 AM
Jordan rocks :) ..... no need for that

Compare to three years back, they are not as arrogant anymore:D

thayil
09-19-2011, 08:23 AM
pardon for the teeners who post some arrogance here before and

As Ive said earlier my Asian brethren...


DON'T GENERALIZE :mad:

babdelkader
09-19-2011, 08:25 AM
pardon for the teeners who post some arrogance here before and

As Ive said earlier my Asian brethren...


DON'T GENERALIZE :mad:

I apologize for u, yes ur ri8, there's good posters here from Philippines.

zik013
09-19-2011, 08:28 AM
Jordan submitted a protest...

thayil
09-19-2011, 08:28 AM
Compare to three years back, they are not as arrogant anymore:D

Hey sir how are you?


I remember your sig I think sinnoball should be included there!

thayil
09-19-2011, 08:29 AM
I apologize for u, yes ur ri8, there's good posters here from Philippines.

its ok :)

now back to the game.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 08:31 AM
philippines came back.. but jordan still wins this one... jordans more talented and more fundamentally sound

st_ang3r
09-19-2011, 08:32 AM
Jordan submitted a protest...

for playing lassiter and lutz? FIBA gave the go signal...

acklium
09-19-2011, 08:35 AM
whats with the protest sir?
first and foremost they are already cleared since yesterday..
its just that "HAGOP the BITCH" had done some unnecessary moves!

crush
09-19-2011, 08:37 AM
phil leads 41-37...unfortunately a possible douthit injury

acklium
09-19-2011, 08:38 AM
phil leads 41-37...unfortunately a possible douthit injury

i hope not..

zik013
09-19-2011, 08:39 AM
for playing lassiter and lutz? FIBA gave the go signal...

the commentator said that they werent allowed to play in the first place... also they were not in the livescore.
Who knows what will happpen...

acklium
09-19-2011, 08:42 AM
the commentator said that they werent allowed to play in the first place... also they were not in the livescore.
Who knows what will happpen...

its the fiba asia official's fault!

st_ang3r
09-19-2011, 08:42 AM
the commentator said that they werent allowed to play in the first place... also they were not in the livescore.
Who knows what will happpen...

thanks for the update bro! :)

mouamar ghaddafi
09-19-2011, 08:45 AM
dont forget to tell me on hagop's story in this thread

http://forums.interbasket.net/f76/what-is-hagops-story-18241/

sickcurtain_16
09-19-2011, 08:47 AM
its the fiba asia official's fault!

Just let them. It's their right. Besides, if we know that we're all good and all papers are properly handled, there's no need to worry about.

fadzki
09-19-2011, 08:48 AM
the commentator said that they werent allowed to play in the first place... also they were not in the livescore.
Who knows what will happpen...

I don't think toroman would have sent out both players if they were not eligible... I think Jordan was not informed by the FIBA - officials that they were ok'd to play. this getting interesting...

psychopath
09-19-2011, 08:50 AM
47-47 opening the fourth... jordan wins this one... phils will lose composure in clutch time and they will commit costly turnovers in the end... jordan will make the important baskets en route to victory... jordan 63-59

mouamar ghaddafi
09-19-2011, 08:52 AM
is shimshim wright playing for jordan?

thayil
09-19-2011, 08:53 AM
47-47 opening the fourth... jordan wins this one... phils will lose composure in clutch time and they will commit costly turnovers in the end... jordan will make the important baskets en route to victory... jordan 63-59

link please?

mouamar ghaddafi
09-19-2011, 08:53 AM
54 - 49 pilipinas

mouamar ghaddafi
09-19-2011, 08:54 AM
56 - 49 jordan are cracking

fadzki
09-19-2011, 08:55 AM
is shimshim wright playing for jordan?

Yes he is as will injured Sam Daghlas...

kerouac82
09-19-2011, 09:01 AM
47-47 opening the fourth... jordan wins this one... phils will lose composure in clutch time and they will commit costly turnovers in the end... jordan will make the important baskets en route to victory... jordan 63-59

Looks like it's the other way around :D 63 PHL - 57 JOR

CKR13
09-19-2011, 09:05 AM
64-62 PHI with 3 minutes left.

This game could come down to the wire.

mouamar ghaddafi
09-19-2011, 09:07 AM
i took a bet on jordan to win at 4.20 now! I expect them to turn things around. I would get around 32 dollar in return.

zik013
09-19-2011, 09:11 AM
+4 PHI, 25 seconds

acklium
09-19-2011, 09:13 AM
ok we already have this one..
about the protest - fiba world general patrick bauman was the one who called to the officials of fiba asia..

thayil
09-19-2011, 09:13 AM
All heart baby! All heart!

zik013
09-19-2011, 09:14 AM
+6, 16 seconds

F-15Eagle
09-19-2011, 09:16 AM
Jordan might still get this one..if FIBA would again change their mind:D

CKR13
09-19-2011, 09:18 AM
Wright was 0/9 from beyond the arc. Daghles 3/4 from beyond the arc but is 1/8 from the field.

b3lowzro
09-19-2011, 09:18 AM
nail on the coffin dunk by Williams pushes the lead to 8! 64 -72

ros
09-19-2011, 09:19 AM
Great WIN!

Mabuhay ang PILIPINAS!!!


Hope that FIBA would be fair since it was already the Sec Gen of FIBA Mr. Patrick Baumann who give Lassiter and Lutz a go signal to play as early as last night.

sickcurtain_16
09-19-2011, 09:20 AM
Jordan might still get this one..if FIBA would again change their mind:D

We'll, if ever they will, then it's better for our team to go home. But I don't think so. Lutz and Lassiter are FILIPINOS by BLOOD.

Mabuhay Pilipinas! Good game Jordan.

thayil
09-19-2011, 09:20 AM
Wright was 0/9 from beyond the arc. Daghles 3/4 from beyond the arc but is 1/8 from the field.

Because Cio can match his athleticism and we all know that Rashiem doesn't have that consistency on his jumpshot. On the other note! credit goes to Jordan!

Silent Killer
09-19-2011, 09:21 AM
nice game by both teams. lutz and lassiter show why they're integral with the team with their performance. keep it up lutz and lassiter.

Bobbyd
09-19-2011, 09:24 AM
Great win for the PHilippines today. Especially considering they were down by 15 points early on. Big game against Japan tomorrow. A win tomorrow should almost guarantee a spot in the semi-finals for the Philippines as I don't think Chinese Taipei or Lebanon can beat them

acklium
09-19-2011, 09:25 AM
marcio just waxed hot and that led to philippine surge..

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:25 AM
im just sooooooooooooooooooooo gladdddddddddddddddd barocca didnt play again after being subbed in the 1st quarter....... soooooooooooooo gladdddd.......

alapag and casio should play more... barocca is a clown - cant make open shots, cant finish around the basket, turns the ball even when there's no traffic and moreso in traffic and fouls opposing guards 70 feet away from the basket... he's in reality a 3rd string PG in this team yet he's starting... a turnover machine shouldnt be a pointguard.... nice job coach toroman!

kurtsabug
09-19-2011, 09:25 AM
a roller coaster game, very entertaining :D
good job GILAS!

dose
09-19-2011, 09:26 AM
47-47 opening the fourth... jordan wins this one... phils will lose composure in clutch time and they will commit costly turnovers in the end... jordan will make the important baskets en route to victory... jordan 63-59

You were saying? Looks like it was Jordan who lost composure in the last 2 minutes where they were throwing bricks.

If Jordan finishes 4th, good luck to them in their quarterfinal match with Iran.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:29 AM
You were saying? Looks like it was Jordan who lost composure in the last 2 minutes where they were throwing bricks.

If Jordan finishes 4th, good luck to them in their quarterfinal match with Iran.

i didnt know an ordinary poster like me cant express his predictions in this forum...

jordan matches well with iran than the phils... bad luck then to iran on having such a tough foe in the quarterfinals despite their higher seeding...

dose
09-19-2011, 09:33 AM
i didnt know an ordinary poster like me cant express his predictions in this forum...

jordan matches well with iran than the phils... bad luck to iran on having such a tough foe in the quarterfinals despite their seeding...

I didn't say you can't express your "prediction". I was just highlighting that what happened was the exact opposite of your "prediction".

Still, good luck to Jordan in the quarterfinals. They will need it.

interxavierxxx
09-19-2011, 09:37 AM
As we are still playing the blaming game, the fingers should all point to FIBA Asia. Jordan had the right to protest because they were not informed of the recent developments last night.

These FIBA Asia officials are nothing short of incompetent. :mad:

b3lowzro
09-19-2011, 09:38 AM
What happened to Jordanian player who got injured? whats his status

ros
09-19-2011, 09:38 AM
If there was a basketball god then he certainly gave what is just to our team. FIBA-Asia tried to screw us and almost cost us the game.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:40 AM
I didn't say you can't express your "prediction". I was just highlighting that what happened was the exact opposite of your "prediction".

Still, good luck to Jordan in the quarterfinals. They will need it.

then you wouldnt need the "you were saying???" part if you only wanna highlight something...

phils unfortunately loses to japan tomorrow after an emotional win against jordan... with douthit still not 100%, japan wins by 8...

thayil
09-19-2011, 09:40 AM
I bet after FIBA ASIA QUALIFIERS there will be changes in FIBA Asia staffs.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:41 AM
What happened to Jordanian player who got injured? whats his status

probably out for the tournament

ddreamer
09-19-2011, 09:41 AM
Jordan rocks :) .... No need for that

Its good Team Pilipinas won!!! And Lebanon lost!!! And your Team(your Team Jordan Rocks) lost too!!! Don't be arrogant next time dude!!!

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:43 AM
I bet after FIBA ASIA QUALIFIERS there will be changes in FIBA Asia staffs.

fiba asia should retire

transfer the countries to fiba africa

RedMetal
09-19-2011, 09:43 AM
Nice win by team Pilipinas, @silentkells with an exclamation dunk, tomorrow we will face japan. Goodluck!:cool:

acklium
09-19-2011, 09:44 AM
Its good Team Pilipinas won!!! And Lebanon lost!!! And your Team(your Team Jordan Rocks) lost too!!! Don't be arrogant next time dude!!!

dont be so cocky dude.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:44 AM
Its good Team Pilipinas won!!! And Lebanon lost!!! And your Team(your Team Jordan Rocks) lost too!!! Don't be arrogant next time dude!!!

you're just as arrogant as him with that post, why mad?

b3lowzro
09-19-2011, 09:44 AM
Its good Team Pilipinas won!!! And Lebanon lost!!! And your Team(your Team Jordan Rocks) lost too!!! Don't be arrogant next time dude!!!

no need for that

dose
09-19-2011, 09:45 AM
then you wouldnt need the "you were saying???" part if you only wanna highlight something...

phils unfortunately loses to japan tomorrow after an emotional win against jordan... with douthit still not 100%, japan wins by 8...

I beg to disagree. Putting the "you were saying?" highlights it even more.

Nice prediction on the Japan game. I'm sure I'll be saying "you were saying" to you again tomorrow. See you then!

Mojado
09-19-2011, 09:45 AM
Great WIN!

Mabuhay ang PILIPINAS!!!


Hope that FIBA would be fair since it was already the Sec Gen of FIBA Mr. Patrick Baumann who give Lassiter and Lutz a go signal to play as early as last night.

Who called Baumann? I would bet on Noli...;)

Mojado
09-19-2011, 09:47 AM
As we are still playing the blaming game, the fingers should all point to FIBA Asia. Jordan had the right to protest because they were not informed of the recent developments last night.

These FIBA Asia officials are nothing short of incompetent. :mad:

is there an official protest underway? hopefully not.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:49 AM
I beg to disagree. Putting the "you were saying?" highlights it even more.

Nice prediction on the Japan game. I'm sure I'll be saying "you were saying" to you again tomorrow. See you then!

highlights the insult you probably mean
but you probably dont know what you really mean as seen in the above post

dose
09-19-2011, 09:51 AM
highlights the insult you probably mean
but you probably dont know what you really mean as seen in the above post

Whatever dude! Anyway let's just see tomorrow who among us is right.

thayil
09-19-2011, 09:51 AM
Awwww!

guys we've won so what with the hate!

amp!

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:53 AM
is there an official protest underway? hopefully not.

the protest would be futile since they got the word from fiba and the game officials with the knowledge of the situation agreed and allowed the players to play

jordan is just trying to do what others team try to do, pull off a win... but they themselves knew the protest has a very slim chance... they're just taking chances instead of not taking chances...

ddreamer
09-19-2011, 09:56 AM
no need for that

I'm sorry about that but if you had read what he had said in his post, where right now someone from the admin might have edited what he said, you'll know why I said what I said. I'm just trying to let him know what silly thing he had done.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:56 AM
Whatever dude! Anyway let's just see tomorrow who among us is right.

with douthit not 100% and with the emotions of upsetting the jordanians still fresh among the players, japan by 8 after 4 quarters...
no need to wait for tomorrow

psychopath
09-19-2011, 09:58 AM
I'm sorry about that but if you had read what he had said in his post, where right now someone from the admin might have edited what he said, you'll know why I said what I said.

we dont know actually

b3lowzro
09-19-2011, 10:07 AM
I'm sorry about that but if you had read what he had said in his post, where right now someone from the admin might have edited what he said, you'll know why I said what I said. I'm just trying to let him know what silly thing he had done.

okay then :) be the better/wiser forum member next time. we pinoys are better than that

behzadir
09-19-2011, 10:12 AM
West Asia on a massive downhill. Expected more from Jordan.

Anyway 2-1 till now for East Asia today in the 2nd round. It will probably be 4-1 by the end of the day.

Only Iran holding its level and raising something in the West Asian teams.

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 10:14 AM
Hey sir how are you?


I remember your sig I think sinnoball should be included there!

Hello my friend! Glad to see you guys here again at interbasket! As what other posters have mentioned, the mid Asian teams have regressed in this years Asian championship, mostly due to.........we all know what happened ;)
Qatar is gone, Jordan and Lebanon have younger thus less experienced players compare to previously, the competitors of the RP team are down to Korea, Japan and perhaps CT, almost like the time when mid Asian teams were not part of Asian championship. I excluded Iran and china bc these two are the championship contenders, not in the same league as the rest of the teams, with that said, RP's dream of becoming the champion of asia is still a far cry, however their chances of putting themselves in wild card list is big, perhaps the biggest in past 20 years!

F-15Eagle
09-19-2011, 10:16 AM
why cant other forumers <especially those from my country> just celebrate the win..no need to gloat and diss other teams..its just one game..we havent won the tournament yet <and its practically hard to win it>.im just happy the philipines won..<if you dont trash talk, hatred will have no room to grow in this forum>:cool:
peace out brothers
:cool:

macan77
09-19-2011, 10:16 AM
I didn't say you can't express your "prediction". I was just highlighting that what happened was the exact opposite of your "prediction".

Still, good luck to Jordan in the quarterfinals. They will need it.

kontrapelo is the name..lol..nice one psychopath

sickcurtain_16
09-19-2011, 10:18 AM
Awwww!

guys we've won so what with the hate!

amp!
:cool: im not surprised with that. that's usual with a lot of people whose egos are bigger than patriotism or sportsmanship.

F-15Eagle
09-19-2011, 10:19 AM
West Asia on a massive downhill. Expected more from Jordan.

Anyway 2-1 till now for East Asia today in the 2nd round. It will probably be 4-1 by the end of the day.

Only Iran holding its level and raising something in the West Asian teams.

hey wouldnt it be nice to have an east asia vs west asia all star games annually? just for entertainment purpose..fans would love it i think

macan77
09-19-2011, 10:27 AM
maging masaya na lang tayo sa panalong ito..trans..we are praying for the win then when we win we become rude and nasty..eh baka magsawa ng taga dinig ng panalangin natin niyan..trans..pray harder for your sins children..lol

behzadir
09-19-2011, 10:27 AM
hey wouldnt it be nice to have an east asia vs west asia all star games annually? just for entertainment purpose..fans would love it i think


Well with thnigs I'm seeing in this championship,there is no need for an East Asia- West Asia matchup.

The East Asia all-star should play Iran instead! LOL!

Eaglefan97
09-19-2011, 10:28 AM
hey wouldnt it be nice to have an east asia vs west asia all star games annually? Just for entertainment purpose..fans would love it i think

nice idea!

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 10:32 AM
But the RP posters have to remember, even if you were to secure the wild card, it is not so much of how good your team have become, but bc other teams have regressed!

To be honest, I am a little bit disappointed with what Toroman has done to the RP team, the individual talent of the players was tamed for the sake of the team game, however surgical precision of the team work is not seen! RP has turned into a "whatizit" team, not so European due to lack of height and execution, not so NBA or PBA due to lack of athletism, definitely not so Korean due to lack of speed and three pointers, and on top of it, I thought the whole Gilas program is to develop young prospects, the only prospect I see in this team is Aguilar, where is Chiu and Norwood? What is going to happen to the team after the Asian championship? :confused:

psychopath
09-19-2011, 10:35 AM
kontrapelo is the name..lol..nice one psychopath

ahahaha!
someone knows what im doing! gosh got caught!

psychopath
09-19-2011, 10:36 AM
Well with thnigs I'm seeing in this championship,there is no need for an East Asia- West Asia matchup.

The East Asia all-star should play Iran instead! LOL!

iran without haddadi is ordinary... what are you saying

dose
09-19-2011, 10:38 AM
kontrapelo is the name..lol..nice one psychopath

Maybe you meant "jinxing"?

F-15Eagle
09-19-2011, 10:38 AM
But the RP posters have to remember, even if you were to secure the wild card, it is not so much of how good your team have become, but bc other teams have regressed!

To be honest, I am a little bit disappointed with what Toroman has done to the RP team, the individual talent of the players was tamed for the sake of the team game, however surgical precision of the team work is not seen! RP has turned into a "whatizit" team, not so European due to lack of height and execution, not so NBA or PBA due to lack of athletism, definitely not so Korean due to lack of speed and three pointers, and on top of it, I thought the whole Gilas program is to develop young prospects, the only prospect I see in this team is Aguilar, where is Chiu and Norwood? What is going to happen to the team after the Asian championship? :confused:

No more chiu..he wants to become a doctor
As for norwood, he's already in the PBA..<unless the SBP and PBA agrees on maintaining a smart gilas team <long term basis> composed of PBA players, we wont see much of Norwood in a smart gilas unifrom
The current smart gilas team will all play for PBA teams except for tiu and douthit..the program was extended for two more years..Not sure if toroman would still be the coach and who are the new recruits..basically its back to zero for the Philippines..

psychopath
09-19-2011, 10:42 AM
But the RP posters have to remember, even if you were to secure the wild card, it is not so much of how good your team have become, but bc other teams have regressed!

To be honest, I am a little bit disappointed with what Toroman has done to the RP team, the individual talent of the players was tamed for the sake of the team game, however surgical precision of the team work is not seen! RP has turned into a "whatizit" team, not so European due to lack of height and execution, not so NBA or PBA due to lack of athletism, definitely not so Korean due to lack of speed and three pointers, and on top of it, I thought the whole Gilas program is to develop young prospects, the only prospect I see in this team is Aguilar, where is Chiu and Norwood? What is going to happen to the team after the Asian championship? :confused:

so spain isnt really good, its just that the serbians/balkans regressed... iran isnt really good, its just that china and korea regressed...

i can see you care a lot with the RP team based on your posts

behzadir
09-19-2011, 10:43 AM
iran without haddadi is ordinary... what are you saying

Iran without Haddadi and Samad Nikkhah and Arsalan Kazemi was beating China in the Asian Games SF last year in Guangzhou and only officiating turned things around in the final minutes.

So i don't see it that way.

babdelkader
09-19-2011, 10:44 AM
Well with thnigs I'm seeing in this championship,there is no need for an East Asia- West Asia matchup.

The East Asia all-star should play Iran instead! LOL!

How funny you are ... over confidence and arrogance...

behzadir
09-19-2011, 10:46 AM
Well with thnigs I'm seeing in this championship,there is no need for an East Asia- West Asia matchup.

The East Asia all-star should play Iran instead! LOL!

How funny you are ... over confidence and arrogance...

I'm not being arrogant bro. Based on the players playing in the championship i think the same Iran team would represent West Asia.

Though if El Khatib was there,things would have been different in the SG position.

dose
09-19-2011, 10:47 AM
But the RP posters have to remember, even if you were to secure the wild card, it is not so much of how good your team have become, but bc other teams have regressed!


On the same token, the reason why West Asian teams were quite successful the past decade or so is because traditional powerhouses Japan, Korea and Phil regressed and were in hibernation. Now that they have awaken, the world order is now back to normal.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 10:52 AM
Iran without Haddadi and Samad Nikkhah and Arsalan Kazemi was beating China in the Asian Games SF last year in Guangzhou and only officiating turned things around in the final minutes.

So i don't see it that way.

its not done in a regular basis, is it?
im not saying without haddadi iran is a first rounder... iran is good... but without haddadi they wouldnt be one of the 2 favorites to win asia for the years to come...eveything else is gravy (lebanon, jordan, korea) but credit goes to iran for creating a monster in haddadi.

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 10:55 AM
so spain isnt really good, its just that the serbians/balkans regressed... iran isnt really good, its just that china and korea regressed...

i can see you care a lot with the RP team based on your posts

What I meant is....This year, RP has the opportunity to secure the best placing in probably past 20 years, this is all bc Jordan, Qatar, and even Lebanon are not the same like before. What does this have anything to do with the Spain winning their title? France did not regress? Other euro teams don't have "import" problem, what's the relevance?

I care about Asian bb in general, not just RP team, look at my posts from before, I bashed your team a lot due to the ignorantly arrogance that most of the RP fans had, but they have learned to face the harsh reality, except for a still ignorant few. :D

freakmao
09-19-2011, 10:56 AM
any links for the replay?

Bernard
09-19-2011, 10:58 AM
Congratulations....
wish u all the best in the semis !! ;) i can feel that after a long period of time all y'all pinoys have been waiting, you will reach the semis this year ! :)

Good Luck for your NT!

Long Live Lebanon !! (Except All the Politicians!!)

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 11:00 AM
On the same token, the reason why West Asian teams were quite successful the past decade or so is because traditional powerhouses Japan, Korea and Phil regressed and were in hibernation. Now that they have awaken, the world order is now back to normal.

Yes to what you said, and their seccess came easy, and the bubble burst this year, poked by FIBA:D

Azrael
09-19-2011, 11:00 AM
im just sooooooooooooooooooooo gladdddddddddddddddd barocca didnt play again after being subbed in the 1st quarter....... soooooooooooooo gladdddd.......

alapag and casio should play more... barocca is a clown - cant make open shots, cant finish around the basket, turns the ball even when there's no traffic and moreso in traffic and fouls opposing guards 70 feet away from the basket... he's in reality a 3rd string PG in this team yet he's starting... a turnover machine shouldnt be a pointguard.... nice job coach toroman!

you noticed that too. he should change his gameplay though

psychopath
09-19-2011, 11:05 AM
What I meant is....This year, RP has the opportunity to secure the best placing in probably past 20 years, this is all bc Jordan, Qatar, and even Lebanon are not the same like before. What does this have anything to do with the Spain winning their title? France did not regress? Other euro teams don't have "import" problem, what's the relevance?

I care about Asian bb in general, not just RP team, look at my posts from before, I bashed your team a lot due to the ignorantly arrogance that most of the RP fans had, but they have learned to face the harsh reality, except for a still ignorant few. :D

and why would you assume that Jordan's, qatar's and lebanon's teams fortune wouldnt change? talents come and go... if lebanon cant find an heir to el-khatib its not another team's fault... if no other young jordanian prospect can follow dahgles footsteps its not an improving team's fault... talents come and go such is the fate of their teams... ask serbia... and if you cant get the spain-serbia analogy its not my fault...

and lastly, why are you so proud on bashing the arrogants and the ignorants in this forum? only an ignorant will be affected by another ignorant's posts... if its nonsensical it shouldnt affect you in the first place...

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 11:07 AM
During the game between china and RP, when national anthems of each teams were performed, all the players from both teams put their hands to where their heart is, except for that "import" from RP, he placed his arms down almost like putting his hands in the pocket. Yao Ming being the commentator of that game for CCTV5 said: some players place their country in their heart, the others puts it in the pocket. :cool:

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 11:16 AM
and why would you assume that Jordan's, qatar's and lebanon's teams fortune wouldnt change? talents come and go... if lebanon cant find an heir to el-khatib its not another team's fault... if no other young jordanian prospect can follow dahgles footsteps its not an improving team's fault... talents come and go such is the fate of their teams... ask serbia... and if you cant get the spain-serbia analogy its not my fault...

and lastly, why are you so proud on bashing the arrogants and the ignorants in this forum? only an ignorant will be affected by another ignorant's posts... if its nonsensical it shouldnt affect you in the first place...

To be called the "power house" in any sports, you need a well rounded program that includes scouting/training of young prospect to long term program (maybe in form of professional league) supported and sponsored by the government and private corporations. "Talents come and go " only means insufficiency of the program.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 11:18 AM
During the game between china and RP, when national anthems of each teams were performed, all the players from both teams put their hands to where their heart is, except for that "import" from RP, he placed his arms down almost like putting his hands in the pocket. Yao Ming being the commentator of that game for CCTV5 said: some players place their country in their heart, the others puts it in the pocket. :cool:

but douthit played for the country despite hurting with an injury against jordan... and he'll do that again tomorrow against japan... risking his career for the country... one action should not define the whole person... he may have lapses (anthem thing) but who doesnt have? dont you have? i see yao is very nationalistic with that comment, good for him and china.

F-15Eagle
09-19-2011, 11:22 AM
During the game between china and RP, when national anthems of each teams were performed, all the players from both teams put their hands to where their heart is, except for that "import" from RP, he placed his arms down almost like putting his hands in the pocket. Yao Ming being the commentator of that game for CCTV5 said: some players place their country in their heart, the others puts it in the pocket. :cool:

yeah i was peeved off at douthit too for that.. him being a naturalized player and all..but the sad fact is the rp team needs him and its legal after all as per FIBA rules...

The philippines couldn't consistently produce a decent big man taller than 6'6'-6'7". thus the need for a naturalized center...Now what Yao ming said was true..but then its easier for him to say that since china have no problem producing overgrown giants..

If lebanon, jordan and qatar have naturalized players..countries which can produce big men..then so can the philippines who has a hard time filling that center hole in the middle

psychopath
09-19-2011, 11:31 AM
To be called the "power house" in any sports, you need a well rounded program that includes scouting/training of young prospect to long term program (maybe in form of professional league) supported and sponsored by the government and private corporations. "Talents come and go " only means insufficiency of the program.

i believe talents are born... the programs only hone them... programs alone cant create a dirk nowitzki, a magic johnson, a lebron james... now el-khatib and daghles are not on par with them, but you get what i mean...

Eaglefan97
09-19-2011, 12:09 PM
Yeah, I didn't like that either. But credit Douthit for playing hurt today.

It reminds of a contrast in attitudes. Norman Black, an American who used to play in the NBA and was coaching the 1994 Philippine Team which finished third or fourth in the Asian Games that year was asked by the foreign media how he felt because the odds were stacked against the Philippines that year. (Which was weird because in the Asian games prior to that, we won the Silver)

Black grumpily snapped at them and said "WE ARE FILIPINOS. WE DON'T BACK DOWN." It was an emotional response but it showed his heart was with the Philippines.

He has NEVER bragged about it but I remember that article vividly.

So he may not look like a traditional Filipino, but man, he has more pride than some of the locals and fil-ams we have playing in the PBA.

dose
09-19-2011, 12:21 PM
During the game between china and RP, when national anthems of each teams were performed, all the players from both teams put their hands to where their heart is, except for that "import" from RP, he placed his arms down almost like putting his hands in the pocket. Yao Ming being the commentator of that game for CCTV5 said: some players place their country in their heart, the others puts it in the pocket. :cool:

Yao Ming doesn't need to look very far for pay-for-play athletes. A lot of mainland chinese are playing various sports for countries like Singapore. Look who's talking!

bukag.2011
09-19-2011, 12:49 PM
I have a Strong feeling that our NASHAMA gonna Shine tomorrow as unexpected !
Jordan for a Win with +10 pts :D

>>> NEWSFLASH FOR YOU DUDE,

Jordan 6472 Philippines

you should have put your "+10" for your team. you should have won if you did, haha.

pinas won by 8

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 12:49 PM
Yao Ming doesn't need to look very far for pay-for-play athletes. A lot of mainland chinese are playing various sports for countries like Singapore. Look who's talking!

I think there is a misunderstanding here, when Yao said that there was no tone of humiliation or sarcasm, he was simply stating what he saw, and the fact is, these newly naturalized players patriotism is indeed questionable and anybody who is newly naturalized would have such problem! using players like these is a choice, and if the benefit outweighs it all, be my guest.

With regards to Singapore or any other countries hiring mainlander as mercenaries, as long as you are the giver and not the taker, you should even be proud of it. :D

macan77
09-19-2011, 01:02 PM
Iran without Haddadi and Samad Nikkhah and Arsalan Kazemi was beating China in the Asian Games SF last year in Guangzhou and only officiating turned things around in the final minutes.

So i don't see it that way.

Iran without Haddadi and NIkkah and Arsalan will not win against Philippines

macan77
09-19-2011, 01:09 PM
I think there is a misunderstanding here, when Yao said that there was no tone of humiliation or sarcasm, he was simply stating what he saw, and the fact is, these newly naturalized players patriotism is indeed questionable and anybody who is newly naturalized would have such problem! using players like these is a choice, and if the benefit outweighs it all, be my guest.

With regards to Singapore or any other countries hiring mainlander as mercenaries, as long as you are the giver and not the taker, you should even be proud of it. :D

there are a lot of pinoys (locals) who doesn't put their hands on the heart while singing the national anthem..don't single out one person who time and again played like a local, bond with the locals as brothers..

Eaglefan97
09-19-2011, 02:02 PM
MGA KAPWA KONG PINOY, CHILLAX!
(My fellow Pinoys, take a chill pill!)

Nakakahiya na yung iba sa atin dito. Nakakakita ng malisya sa wala.
(I am ashamed of some of the posts by my countrymen. They find malice where there is none!)

Statements like the ones Yao Ming said about Naturalized players and some of the posts here are NOT insults. They are VERY CORRECT observations that don't mean to DEMEAN the Philippines. DON'T TAKE IT NEGATIVELY UNLESS YOU'RE SURE.

Here's a tip, before posting. Count one to 10. And look at the post again.
IT MIGHT NOT BE AN INSULT.

REMEMBER THAT FOR MOST OF US IN THESE THREADS (our Asian neighbors, some of our countrymen) ENGLISH IS NOT THE FIRST LANGUAGE.
Hell, even some of us here claiming to know how to speak English submit posts rife with grammatical snafus that betray their limited fluency.

SO THE PERSON MIGHT NOT BE SAYING ANYTHING BAD OR HURTFUL AT ALL. It may be lost in translation, or we may be too high strung about it.

PLEASE ACT LIKE DECENT FILIPINOS AND THINK BEFORE POSTING.

For example, I am amazed that most Filipinos are taking the Jordan protest as an insult when it is the RIGHT of every team to do so. Because while WE did nothing wrong. FIBA ASIA messed up by informing the teams that Lutz and Lassiter couldn't play yet. And midway through the game, it was overturned. Essentially, our line-up changed in the middle of the game. To the letter of the law, that is unfair to Jordan. However, the context of what transpired over the last week makes it different in that FIBA ASIA screwed up by not letting the two play. Still, I won't blame Jordan for protesting. THink about it, we would be doing the same if it were the other way around.

Me, I'm GLAD they let Lassiter and Lutz play. I don't think Jordan's protest will affect the outcome but they do deserve an apology from FIBA ASIA (As do we) for the screw up.

SA MADALING SALITA. HUWAG BALAT SIBUYAS. KONTING DECORUM NAMAN DIYAN. NAG MUMUKHANG SKWATING TAYO NG BOARDS EH. Please take it easy. Being hurt does not give us the right to hurt others who don't deserve it. And if there are trolls from other nations...IGNORE THEM. Even their own countrymen don't bother with their stupid comments, why should you?

BASICALLY, TRY A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING.

Thanks.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 02:04 PM
the fact is, these newly naturalized players patriotism is indeed questionable and anybody who is newly naturalized would have such problem!

patriotism doesnt grow overnight... we dont have any problem with that fact... why would you and yao ming have?

the phils is just more liberal and democratic than china... you can be what you are here...

psychopath
09-19-2011, 02:08 PM
MGA KAPWA KONG PINOY, CHILLAX!
(My fellow Pinoys, take a chill pill!)

Nakakahiya na yung iba sa atin dito. Nakakakita ng malisya sa wala.
(I am ashamed of some of the posts by my countrymen. They find malice where there is none!)

Statements like the ones Yao Ming said about Naturalized players and some of the posts here are NOT insults. They are VERY CORRECT observations that don't mean to DEMEAN the Philippines. DON'T TAKE IT NEGATIVELY UNLESS YOU'RE SURE.

Here's a tip, before posting. Count one to 10. And look at the post again.
IT MIGHT NOT BE AN INSULT.

REMEMBER THAT FOR MOST OF US IN THESE THREADS (our Asian neighbors, some of our countrymen) ENGLISH IS NOT THE FIRST LANGUAGE.
Hell, even some of us here claiming to know how to speak English submit posts rife with grammatical snafus that betray their limited fluency.

SO THE PERSON MIGHT NOT BE SAYING ANYTHING BAD OR HURTFUL AT ALL. It may be lost in translation, or we may be too high strung about it.

PLEASE ACT LIKE DECENT FILIPINOS AND THINK BEFORE POSTING.

For example, I am amazed that most Filipinos are taking the Jordan protest as an insult when it is the RIGHT of every team to do so. Because while WE did nothing wrong. FIBA ASIA messed up by informing the teams that Lutz and Lassiter couldn't play yet. And midway through the game, it was overturned. Essentially, our line-up changed in the middle of the game. To the letter of the law, that is unfair to Jordan. However, the context of what transpired over the last week makes it different in that FIBA ASIA screwed up by not letting the two play. Still, I won't blame Jordan for protesting. THink about it, we would be doing the same if it were the other way around.

Me, I'm GLAD they let Lassiter and Lutz play. I don't think Jordan's protest will affect the outcome but they do deserve an apology from FIBA ASIA (As do we) for the screw up.

SA MADALING SALITA. HUWAG BALAT SIBUYAS. KONTING DECORUM NAMAN DIYAN. NAG MUMUKHANG SKWATING TAYO NG BOARDS EH. Please take it easy. Being hurt does not give us the right to hurt others who don't deserve it. And if there are trolls from other nations...IGNORE THEM. Even their own countrymen don't bother with their stupid comments, why should you?

BASICALLY, TRY A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING.

Thanks.

no...
you're the only one taking things seriously here...

Eaglefan97
09-19-2011, 02:08 PM
patriotism doesnt grow overnight... we dont have any problem with that fact... why would you and yao ming have?

the phils is just more liberal and democratic than china... you can be what you are here...

I don't think they have a problem with it. They were just making a valid observation.

What they are saying is in GENERAL, the way the game has evolved all over the world, naturalized citizens are a fixture. And as such, you will see players like that everywhere.

Like you said, patriotism doesn't grow overnight. That's their whole point. It wasn't directed at the Philippines as an insult. It was directed at the practice of naturalized players as a whole.

Please don't try to find hate where there is none.

psychopath
09-19-2011, 02:16 PM
PSYCHOPATH! THEY DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I'VE READ THEIR STATEMENTS OVER AND OVER AND THERE IS NO MALICE INTENDED.

What they are saying is in GENERAL, the way the game has evolved all over the world, naturalized citizens are a fixture. And as such, you will see players like that everywhere. THAT WAS THEIR WHOLE POINT.

Don't try to find hate where there is none.

you're the only one who has a problem here...

did i use any foul words? did i use any insults? we're just exchanging thoughts... you better read my statements too...

dont try to find a problem when there's none... we're ok here...

toikins
09-19-2011, 02:18 PM
Iran without Haddadi and NIkkah and Arsalan will not win against Philippines

lol dude we got beaten badly in Asian Games last year without those 3. :D

psychopath
09-19-2011, 02:19 PM
lol dude we got beaten badly in Asian Games last year without those 3. :D

who's our big man then? i didnt watch it...

macan77
09-19-2011, 02:34 PM
lol dude we got beaten badly in Asian Games last year without those 3. :D

i know..i am talking about today's line up with douhit included..

AlYuson
09-19-2011, 03:10 PM
Iran without Haddadi and NIkkah and Arsalan will not win against Philippines

same thing with the philippines, without Marcus Douthit we are doomed ;)

Cryotek
09-19-2011, 03:29 PM
same thing with the philippines, without Marcus Douthit we are doomed ;)

But even we have Douthit, we're still bound to be doomed, unless we excel in our outside shooting! The program should focus more in strengthening our SGs/SFs position...we really need many SHOOTERS in our team, that's the only way to become a powerhouse again with the likes of China and Iran, low-post plays should be a bonus 'coz these tow teams have too many 7 footers!

macan77
09-19-2011, 03:34 PM
same thing with the philippines, without Marcus Douthit we are doomed ;)

precisely, Douhit is the integral part of the system..he opens up the shooters and our last line of defense not mentioning his rebounding contribution..

seigle42
09-19-2011, 03:53 PM
Wright was 0/9 from beyond the arc. Daghles 3/4 from beyond the arc but is 1/8 from the field.

That was a very good defense from the Philippines :)

2log
09-19-2011, 03:59 PM
Osama Daghles = John Turturro (Agent Simmons of Transformers)

seigle42
09-19-2011, 04:01 PM
if we win against japan tomorrow, I'm sure we will go to the semis,

i hope marcus douthit will be 100% healthy

2log
09-19-2011, 04:12 PM
I like Marcus much more than CJ Giles (the other naturalization candidate). I may not know him, but from what I can observe, he has a good temperament and is a good team player. He's not an airhead who thinks more highly of himself than his team mates.

And from what I can remember (anyone please correct me if I'm wrong), if the national anthem is playing as recorded music (like in cinemas), you have the option not to put your hand over your left chest. I still do however, and it would be nice to see Kuya Marcus do it too.

budz17
09-19-2011, 09:16 PM
kinda sucks, I knew the result before I watched the replay. would have been great if I did not know.

anyway, amazing comeback, 18 points down in the 2nd quarter.

for posters saying fiba asia level regressed, we don;t care, we'll take any win we can get our hands on.

crouchingtiger
09-20-2011, 12:38 AM
I don't think they have a problem with it. They were just making a valid observation.

What they are saying is in GENERAL, the way the game has evolved all over the world, naturalized citizens are a fixture. And as such, you will see players like that everywhere.

Like you said, patriotism doesn't grow overnight. That's their whole point. It wasn't directed at the Philippines as an insult. It was directed at the practice of naturalized players as a whole.

Please don't try to find hate where there is none.
I can't agree with you more! And thank you for the explanation, obviously you understood what I was trying to tell him. :)

crouchingtiger
09-20-2011, 12:45 AM
Not that I am a big RP fan but from the way I see it, RP has a a big chance to take a way with a win today against Japan

jvandread
09-20-2011, 12:47 AM
lol at some of the filipino forumer here. We just won one game and they think that RP can beat any team now.

F-15Eagle
09-20-2011, 01:08 AM
That was a very good defense from the Philippines :)

Rasheim wright always have a hard time playing against the philippines ever since..i dont know but maybe Filipino guards just are better defenders on the perimeter when it comes to one-on-one or lock down D..However our zone and transition D needs quite an overhaul..or maybe the philippines is just his 'kontra-pelo" <jinx>:D

reamily
09-20-2011, 01:13 AM
Rasheim wright always have a hard time playing against the philippines ever since..i dont know but maybe Filipino guards just are better defenders on the perimeter when it comes to one-on-one or lock down D..However our zone and transition D needs quite an overhaul..or maybe the philippines is just his 'kontra-pelo" <jinx>:D

maybe yes maybe not he is the main reason of our heart breaks in 2007-2009

vindication lng law of averages:D:cool:

reamily
09-20-2011, 01:14 AM
Iran without Haddadi and NIkkah and Arsalan will not win against Philippines

2010 Asian Games :D pre

macan77
09-20-2011, 01:23 AM
2010 Asian Games :D pre

where's marcus douhit that time? if you don't include douhit yeah,probably we will not but with the PBA players, any given day with proper training and system..what do you think?

psychopath
09-20-2011, 01:28 AM
I can't agree with you more! And thank you for the explanation, obviously you understood what I was trying to tell him. :)

really? what you first said was that japan and phils are winning only because the arab teams regressed.

then after getting embarassed you changed topic to a naturalized player's patriotism...

and then now, you're taking the easy way out from your posts... by agreeing to him...

if this is really what you wanted to say, then check your posts coz its not whats written there...

psychopath
09-20-2011, 01:31 AM
lol at some of the filipino forumer here. We just won one game and they think that RP can beat any team now.

we still can beat any team except china and iran... this win doesnt change that... so whats with "LOL"???...

reamily
09-20-2011, 01:36 AM
where's marcus douhit that time? if you don't include douhit yeah,probably we will not but with the PBA players, any given day with proper training and system..what do you think?

possible pre but we were beaten big that time and Gilas has been there for a year now:D and we have the best Filipino front court to represent us
Kelly and Asi..

but absolutely we will not beat that team without the big three anytime:D

Eaglefan97
09-20-2011, 01:44 AM
Rasheim wright always have a hard time playing against the philippines ever since..i dont know but maybe Filipino guards just are better defenders on the perimeter when it comes to one-on-one or lock down D..However our zone and transition D needs quite an overhaul..or maybe the philippines is just his 'kontra-pelo" <jinx>:D

Yeah. But that wasn't always the case. The first time around, if I recall correctly he torched our all-PBA crew. (Because they weren't familiar with him yet)

In addition to your assessment, I think his game style also has something to do with it. He plays the game the way we do back home, so we're more familiar with the movement. We have a tougher time against great passing teams and quick shooters because we tend to forget assignments on switching off the ball. (Like you said, our Zone D fumbles from time to time)

Meanwhile, off the dribble guards like Wright, while good, we seem to be able to anticipate better. (This however, seems to only apply to guards.)

potz05
09-20-2011, 01:51 AM
Sheesh! Just focus on the game later. To those who are posting here and not trying to analyze other posters from other countries. Try to read their posts not only once or twice... READ THEM AS MANY AS YOU CAN.

Wow, We really never change.

Bara-barang sagot.

Trans.

Poor understanding about a properly constructed analyzation.

That's why others won't take as seriously because of people like TO-WHOM-IT-MAY-CONCERN.

Eaglefan97
09-20-2011, 01:57 AM
Hmm. Just noticed something...

Threads about Filipinos VS Hagop (FIBA ASIA SEC GEN) are disappearing from this forum. It seems no one wants them to know what he's up to.

I tried answering the question about him posted by one of our Lebanon friends and it disappeared.

Just to qualify, Filipinos respect Lebanon and their team. Just not that guy,

Here's another reason why: http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=728999&publicationSubCategoryId=69&keyword
(http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=728999&publicationSubCategoryId=69&keyword)

Let's see how long it lasts before it vanishes...

F-15Eagle
09-20-2011, 02:04 AM
Yeah. But that wasn't always the case. The first time around, if I recall correctly he torched our all-PBA crew. (Because they weren't familiar with him yet)

In addition to your assessment, I think his game style also has something to do with it. He plays the game the way we do back home, so we're more familiar with the movement. We have a tougher time against great passing teams and quick shooters because we tend to forget assignments on switching off the ball. (Like you said, our Zone D fumbles from time to time)

Meanwhile, off the dribble guards like Wright, while good, we seem to be able to anticipate better. (This however, seems to only apply to guards.)

I have to complete agree..his playing style is similar to what Filipinos are used to playing..we can defend guards <china the exception because of size> better as 3 or 4 inches height difference in the perimeter doesn't matter much since we have the speed especially if you have a good defender like lassiter..
On the other hand we have difficult time against korea and japan <even though relatively we have about the same size> because they use quick passing games which we aren't used to back home. Plus the fact that they are lethal shooters from the outside makes them more dangerous opponents to us..<Coach T should have played more east asians teams too in that two year span of smart gilas..In my opinion he was focused more on the mid east teams>

F-15Eagle
09-20-2011, 02:18 AM
Hmm. Just noticed something...

Threads about Filipinos VS Hagop (FIBA ASIA SEC GEN) are disappearing from this forum. It seems no one wants them to know what he's up to.

I tried answering the question about him posted by one of our Lebanon friends and it disappeared.

Just to qualify, Filipinos respect Lebanon and their team. Just not that guy,

Here's another reason why: http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=728999&publicationSubCategoryId=69&keyword
(http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=728999&publicationSubCategoryId=69&keyword)

Let's see how long it lasts before it vanishes...

Well, i can understand if he wasnt informed of FIBA's decisions beforehand, but if he had received the communication from Baumann prior to the game, then what does it imply? what is he trying to prove? what does it mean? im not trying to stir up something here..im just wondering why would he do that if the latter case is true
Ill give him the benefit of the doubt, because the other possibility really reeks of a bad stench and leaves a bad taste in the mouth

aymanxp
09-20-2011, 06:41 AM
Full Game (Jordan 64 - 72 Philippines)

http://www.youtube.com/user/aymanxp22#grid/user/7363CDDA91757B74

larongbuko
09-20-2011, 07:14 AM
really? what you first said was that japan and phils are winning only because the arab teams regressed.

then after getting embarassed you changed topic to a naturalized player's patriotism...

and then now, you're taking the easy way out from your posts... by agreeing to him...

if this is really what you wanted to say, then check your posts coz its not whats written there... o sige na pre,panalo ka na..kaw na magaling...

lapukman
09-20-2011, 08:13 AM
I have a Strong feeling that our NASHAMA gonna Shine tomorrow as unexpected !
Jordan for a Win with +10 pts :D

Your asia-basket article is BS. What's your basis for saying Lutz and Lassiter as illegal players wherein in the first place, them being declared as ineligible by Fiba Asia was ILLEGAL!?

I understand you feel bad for the loss, but as a paid writer, you should be responsible enough to know all the sides of the story before writing one. Such an idiot!

d_viper
09-20-2011, 08:17 AM
Full Game (Jordan 64 - 72 Philippines)

http://www.youtube.com/user/aymanxp22#grid/user/7363CDDA91757B74

thank you for sharing this am watching it right now ..... :cool: