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Kings
09-16-2006, 09:36 AM
4 Erin Phillips (Connecticut Sun)
7 Penny Taylor (Phoenix Mercury)
11 Laura Summerton (Connecticut Sun)
12 Belinda Snell (Phoenix Mercury)
15 Lauren Jackson (Seattle Storm)

mktackabery
09-16-2006, 01:04 PM
This is a fantasy thread . . . Alana from Duke is going to take them all down. :)
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/06/26/PH2005062600814.jpg

stuart
09-16-2006, 04:29 PM
If anyone has the chance to take down the Americans, it's the Aussies. However, I don't think it's likely, this is really strong USA team. On second thought, without Lisa Leslie and Yolanda Griffith manning (womanning?) the middle, if Lauren Jackson has a field day against the inexperienced Candace Parker and Michelle Snow and the undersized Cheryl Ford and Tina Thompson (and her teammates can shoot 55%), the Aussies could pull it out.

Stuart

mktackabery
09-16-2006, 07:11 PM
it could happen; pigs could fly too.;)

Lietuvis
09-17-2006, 12:05 AM
What? Aussie has strong team... Lately US basketball is no longer #1 in the world (mens) so this trend can happen in womens too,

Aussies will beat US.

stuart
09-17-2006, 08:37 PM
What? Aussie has strong team... Lately US basketball is no longer #1 in the world (mens) so this trend can happen in womens too.

Yes, the trend can change. I just don't think it will happen. This isn't a case of blind nationalistic ignorance, but the US team i just really really good.

Stuart

sinobball
09-22-2006, 12:34 AM
USA DEFEATED!

Not by Aussies, but by the Russians, who barely made it into the quarterfinals on China's expense (better point differentials)

PRSURF
09-22-2006, 12:44 AM
http://www.wnba.com/media/act_erin_phillips.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/act_penny_taylor.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/sun/summerton_140_050618.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/mercury/snell_140_050529.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/act_lauren_jackson.jpg
4 Erin Phillips(Connecticut Sun)
7 Penny Taylor(Phoenix Mercury)
11 Laura Summerton(Connecticut Sun)
12 Belinda Snell(Phoenix Mercury)
15 Lauren Jackson(Seattle Storm)Any girl from the champpion team of the WNBA?:o :eek:

Picek
09-22-2006, 12:55 AM
USA DEFEATED!

Not by Aussies, but by the Russians, who barely made it into the quarterfinals on China's expense (better point differentials)
:D
never underestimate the power of russia :D
they've played really bad in the first game against the USA, and USA won it only by ten...
now the russian girls controled the rebounds which was the key IMO and they've had a great shooting night....
so much about american bball domination this year :D

Lietuvis
09-22-2006, 01:07 AM
Yes, the trend can change. I just don't think it will happen. This isn't a case of blind nationalistic ignorance, but the US team i just really really good.

Stuart

Well maybe not Aussies but Russia just have...

I love it when it is truly a global sport now...

kestas
09-22-2006, 04:27 PM
Well maybe not Aussies but Russia just have...

I love it when it is truly a global sport now...

women's game is a global sport? we had the begest sensation of the year yesterday. USA losing to Greece is 10 times smaller than this. yet you'll probably find just one single comment (two now) about this on the basketball board.. ;)

stuart
09-22-2006, 05:40 PM
I love it when it is truly a global sport now...

You speak as if I ignore international progress in basketball and that I bllindly wave the US flag. Just because I thought it was going to be very unlikely that the US Women's team would lose, doesn't equate to anything outside of that statement (i.e. that the US is the best at everything).

In fact this is a team that won 26 games in a row and the loss to Russia is being considered a huge upset. That should speak of my position and the odds that the US would win. Not of anything else.

Stuart

mktackabery
09-22-2006, 07:05 PM
I'm not sure Stuart, perhaps kestas is alluding to the fact that it's just "chick ball?"

Trener
09-23-2006, 02:17 AM
:D
never underestimate the power of russia :D
they've played really bad in the first game against the USA, and USA won it only by ten...
now the russian girls controled the rebounds which was the key IMO and they've had a great shooting night....
so much about american bball domination this year :D
Thank you US Womens team for losing and again proving US basketball is
in bad shape all around the better teams are indeed winning as it should be

Wake UP USA

stuart
09-23-2006, 06:55 AM
Thank you US Womens team for losing and again proving US basketball is in bad shape all around the better teams are indeed winning as it should be

Wake UP USA
Actually I suggest you wake up and maybe watch one of the US women's games.

They lost to the better team that night, but I suggest you actually watch the Women's team play, they are the exact opposite of what the Men's team has represented which I am certain is what you are basing your opinion on. I refuse to believe you actually watched any of their games to come out with such a broad and inaccurate judgement.

This isn't like the Men's US team which has dominated the competition for so long, in fact, the US women's team have 7 golds in international competition compared to the Soviet Unions 6 golds - that's not domination and there is no sleep to be awakened from. And were just talking medal counts here, Brazil, Czech Republic and Ausralia have been huge contenders throughout the years. So expecting them to completely dominate teams year-in-and-out just shows how historically wrong you are in the best case, biased in the worst case.

There is nothing wrong with the Women's team, they play great team basketball, there is no ego and there is nothing wrong with their philosophy, they simply lost a game like many great teams do. I suggest you take those poisonous words back to the US Men's team while you still have the chance (i.e. before they get their act together which they are doing).

Stuart

kestas
09-23-2006, 10:29 AM
I'm not sure Stuart, perhaps kestas is alluding to the fact that it's just "chick ball?"

but this is exactly why we should like it!!!! :)

(ok, it was immature, but who cares)

anyways, I believe that since USA went to full blown WNBA rosters that feature all stars they want, it looked as if the dominance will last forever. USA women have 1130 points in FIBA ranking as compared to 832 held by the men.
they did not lose some game, they lost a semifinal - you never lose a World Championship semifinal if you're really better than your opponent. I'm almost sure that if there were barkleys and browns in Womens game, they would guarantee you the gold in this tournament, as well as in the Olympic games for ten years to come. US lost faster than anticipated by many. and I don't think this was a fluke - this is it. no guaranteed medals for USA women no matter who they bring and how they prepare. now both women and men game is absolutely open affair. US should freaking stop calling basketball their game. give the other countries respect and start freaking changing their attitude on the rest of the world (in all fields of life). American attitude and the style is too primitive even for the women's basketball game. in ten years time Americans will be fighting for the spot in top-3 of the FIBA rankings, just like some ten other nations. I believe this is very good for the sports and for American people as well.

mktackabery
09-23-2006, 11:58 AM
Actually I suggest you wake up and maybe watch one of the US women's games.

They lost to the better team that night, but I suggest you actually watch the Women's team play, they are the exact opposite of what the Men's team has represented which I am certain is what you are basing your opinion on. I refuse to believe you actually watched any of their games to come out with such a broad and inaccurate judgement.

This isn't like the Men's US team which has dominated the competition for so long, in fact, the US women's team have 7 golds in international competition compared to the Soviet Unions 6 golds - that's not domination and there is no sleep to be awakened from. And were just talking medal counts here, Brazil, Czech Republic and Ausralia have been huge contenders throughout the years. So expecting them to completely dominate teams year-in-and-out just shows how historically wrong you are in the best case, biased in the worst case.

There is nothing wrong with the Women's team, they play great team basketball, there is no ego and there is nothing wrong with their philosophy, they simply lost a game like many great teams do. I suggest you take those poisonous words back to the US Men's team while you still have the chance (i.e. before they get their act together which they are doing).

Stuart
go Stuart, go Stuart! :cool:

Trener
09-23-2006, 12:22 PM
but this is exactly why we should like it!!!! :)

(ok, it was immature, but who cares)

anyways, I believe that since USA went to full blown WNBA rosters that feature all stars they want, it looked as if the dominance will last forever. USA women have 1130 points in FIBA ranking as compared to 832 held by the men.
they did not lose some game, they lost a semifinal - you never lose a World Championship semifinal if you're really better than your opponent. I'm almost sure that if there were barkleys and browns in Womens game, they would guarantee you the gold in this tournament, as well as in the Olympic games for ten years to come. US lost faster than anticipated by many. and I don't think this was a fluke - this is it. no guaranteed medals for USA women no matter who they bring and how they prepare. now both women and men game is absolutely open affair. US should freaking stop calling basketball their game. give the other countries respect and start freaking changing their attitude on the rest of the world (in all fields of life). American attitude and the style is too primitive even for the women's basketball game. in ten years time Americans will be fighting for the spot in top-3 of the FIBA rankings, just like some ten other nations. I believe this is very good for the sports and for American people as well.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !!!!!! US is still in denial- calling every loss an upset

and ,respectfully ,Stuart we cant shoot anymore men or women our team defense stinks and I watched the Womens games and I stand by what I said

LuDux
09-23-2006, 12:32 PM
it could happen; pigs could fly too.;)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/Pictures/flying-pig-02.jpg

mktackabery
09-24-2006, 12:48 PM
If this is what passes for entertainment in Lithuiania, I understand why you are all so passionate about basketball.:D

stuart
09-24-2006, 04:46 PM
and ,respectfully ,Stuart we cant shoot anymore men or women

Oh you mean the same Women's team that shot 41% three point shooting the entire tournament? Standing by what you say isn't difficult, all that takes is a little pride, actually backing up what is said with facts is another story.

Stuart

Trener
09-24-2006, 07:17 PM
Oh you mean the same Women's team that shot 41% three point shooting the entire tournament? Standing by what you say isn't difficult, all that takes is a little pride, actually backing up what is said with facts is another story.

Stuart
when it counts Stuart when it counts. DWade on average had a good tournament ,too. and what a dunk by Lebron against Greece when it was a
2 possession game down by 6. We always want to revert to pressure defense use our athleticism BS one on one play and in both cases we lost when it counted. Face it our whole system is bad we have 300million people
and cant find 5 who know how to bust a zone. and it s starting to trickle into the womens game... we need FIBA coaches to come to the USA
like the NBA does...PLEASE!!!!!

stuart
09-25-2006, 04:59 PM
when it counts Stuart when it counts. DWade on average had a good tournament ,too. and what a dunk by Lebron against Greece when it was a
2 possession game down by 6. We always want to revert to pressure defense use our athleticism BS one on one play and in both cases we lost when it counted. Face it our whole system is bad we have 300million people
and cant find 5 who know how to bust a zone. and it s starting to trickle into the womens game... we need FIBA coaches to come to the USA
like the NBA does...PLEASE!!!!!

Again, you are comparing the men's team with the women's team, which just goes to show that you haven't paid much attention to the Women's game - they are two completely different animals. Not only in their philosophy and history, but in the opponents they face.

Historically, the US women have never dominated international basketball like the US Men's Team has, so to say that we need to wake up and change our system, that there is something wrong with the US Women's Team is wholly incorrect, and more importantly insulting to the opponents. In short, the level of play in the Women's game has always been equal with 3-5 teams entering each tournament as legitimate contenders. Look at the history of the Women's game, this isn't a fluke that the US Women lost, they've lost as much as they have won in the last 3 decades.

I'd like you to start pointing out some faults that the US WOMEN have done incorrectly instead of using their male counterpoints as arguments because they are not the same. The more you talk about the Men to explain why the Women have failed, the less I believe you that you've watched a single US women's game (which was already suspicious in the beginning).

Stuart

brownwarrior
08-30-2007, 10:45 AM
http://www.wnba.com/media/act_erin_phillips.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/act_penny_taylor.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/sun/summerton_140_050618.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/mercury/snell_140_050529.jpghttp://www.wnba.com/media/act_lauren_jackson.jpg
4 Erin Phillips(Connecticut Sun)
7 Penny Taylor(Phoenix Mercury)
11 Laura Summerton(Connecticut Sun)
12 Belinda Snell(Phoenix Mercury)
15 Lauren Jackson(Seattle Storm)
Do you just hate the USA?:D