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worldbasketball
02-24-2011, 08:51 AM
Eurovision Song Contest 2011 is scheduled on 14 May in Dusseldorf, Germany with two semi-finals on 10 May and 12 May 2011.

This thread is to discuss all matters regarding the Eurovision contest with songs from various countries, past and present. Some countries have already chosen their final songs for this year, so it would be a great place to let us hear the tunes.

You can also talk about songs that did not succeed to be chosen, but were really good songs or were from talented musicians.

Or about all topics related to the subject

worldbasketball
02-24-2011, 08:26 PM
From an initial listening to some of the already qualifying songs, my heart goes for "Da Da Dam", the Finnish entry by Paradise Oskar, who in addition to singing has written both the lyrics and music to the song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFRAVSwoDkk

DA DA DAM

Peter is smart, he knows each European country by heart
He likes to sit under an apple tree on his yard
And wait for an apple to fall

When Peter is nine,
His teacher tells him that this planet is dying
That someone needs to put an end to it all
And so when Peter comes home
He tells his mom

I’m going out in the world to save our planet
And I ain’t comin back until she’s saved
I’ll walk my way to see the King and parliament
If they don’t help I'll do it by myself

I don't wanna be
Da da dam, anekatips da da dam
Da da da da da da, da da dam

Peter is young
He tries to talk but no one listens to him
Everybody’s busy living and dying
Not thinking bout what they're doing

But look at the boy who ...

Went out in the world to save our planet
And he ain’t coming back until she’s saved
He walked his way to see the King and parliament
But they all turned their heads and walked away

Singin’

Da da dam, da da dam
Da da da da da da, da da dam
(repeat)

And now I’m going out in the world to save our planet
And I ain’t comin back until she’s saved
I’m walkin in the footsteps that young Peter made
And everybody is welcome to join
And sing with me

Da da dam, da da dam
Da da da da da da, da da dam
(repeat)

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Here is an acoustic live version of the song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gX1-sIqmfo

worldbasketball
02-24-2011, 08:38 PM
Actually Finland finals were tough with very pretty songs. This following song for example lost by a very small margin to Oskar. It is from Saara Aalto and called "Blessed with Love", a real pretty voice and tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEpilItv-3A

The third place went to the band Father McKenzie, again a very good song entitled "Good Enough"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilo5sVnWCuM (studio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NARAoceXB1I (live)

Levenspiel
02-26-2011, 12:39 PM
For the first time in a long time, I liked the Turkish entry: Live it up by Yuksek Sadakat

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This band used to write their songs only in Turkish, and even though they may not appeal to all tastes, I think they were better.

worldbasketball
02-27-2011, 07:12 AM
For the first time in a long time, I liked the Turkish entry: Live it up by Yuksek Sadakat

This band used to write their songs only in Turkish, and even though they may not appeal to all tastes, I think they were better.

Definitly this song is a huge step back from great songs they used to sing. It simply doesn't work. Here are some better Yuksek Sadakat songs:

DŲneceksin diye sŲz ver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQzf9ptgVs

Ben Seni Arayamam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuGrxknPs0

Aşk DurdukÁa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzmbjDOGAY

Hadi Gel İÁelim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8DADl4gEW8

Belki ‹stŁmŁzden Bir Kuş GeÁer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmmgDsc1s5s

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It is so sad this Eurovision song doesn't "live up to it" (sorry for the pun)

An English (Turkish) song that really worked and is I think one of the best entries of Turkey is Athena in "For Real" in 2004. Now this is a wonderful and unforgettable song and they were brilliant live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kva951_ov0s

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By the way, Turkey will win if they put somebody like Hayko Cepkin... But probably he simply hates Eurovision, although Eurovision would adore him if he makes an appearance

Here is Yalnız Kalsın from Hayko Cepkin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ouh-Lrpt0

and in Fırtınam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ6JwbZhlvU

worldbasketball
02-28-2011, 05:33 PM
I was pleasantly surprised by the very jolly song "Haba Haba" (means Little By Little in Swahili, a very well known African language). It is sung by Stella Mwangi a Norwegian-Kenyan singer and is the official Norway entry to Eurovision this year and has topped the Norwegian Top 40 for 2 weeks now even before the contest. It was chosen through the Melodi Grand Prix preselection process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0yoSRD83ks

Here is the live version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7k9vOc_B9w

HABA HABA
Lyrics

When Iís a little girl my grandma told me
That I could be just anything I wanted to
When Iís a little girl my grandma told me
That I could be just anything I wanted to

She said that Everything I work for
Everything I wish for

Everything I look for it is right in front of me
Everything I work for
Everything I wish for
Everything I look for it is right in front of me

And she said ahÖ

Haba, haba, hujaza kibaba
(repeat)

When Iís a little girl my grandma told me
That itís the little things in life thatís gone make me happy
When Iís a little girl my grandma told me
That itís the little thing in life thatís gone make me happy

She said that

Little by little, fills up the measure
Donít ever give up keep on moving
Little by little fills up the measure
Donít ever give up, keep on moving

Haba haba, hujaza kibaba
(repeat)

worldbasketball
03-07-2011, 03:46 AM
Finally the UK entry by the boy band "Blue" has been announced. It is "If You Come Back" , a very decent and beautiful song, but I feel will not make a big impact despite the good looks and the fame the band enjoys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKQofMWE_U

I don't what's it with UK entries. One I really liked was Daz Sampson in "Teenage Life", yet it did nothing. That was in 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oUX40ng-tw

Another flop but yet again a great tune was Gina G and "Ooh Aah Just a Little Bit"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3nROFIF5ek

But then Cliff Richard didn't win with "Congratulations" which is mind boggling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us3dQ0nnlHY

Mindozas
03-07-2011, 10:15 AM
Finally the UK entry by the boy band "Blue" has been announced. It is "If You Come Back" , a very decent and beautiful song, but I feel will not make a big impact despite the good looks and the fame the band enjoys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKQofMWE_U


You probably misunderstood smth here mate ;) The song must be new one, while this song was a hit in some 2004

BTW, Daz Sampson's song was really good one, but as far as I remember that year was the best ESC since now, surely UK deserved higher place, but you know the tendencies of the contest... :rolleyes:

worldbasketball
03-08-2011, 07:42 AM
You probably misunderstood smth here mate ;) The song must be new one, while this song was a hit in some 2004

BTW, Daz Sampson's song was really good one, but as far as I remember that year was the best ESC since now, surely UK deserved higher place, but you know the tendencies of the contest... :rolleyes:

I apologize and stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out. The British song by "Blue" is actually called "I Can". The song will premiere on 11 March 2011. So that's quite soon. I will put it as soon as it is available.

The song "If You Come Back" that I mistakenly put was there last hit in 2004.

Me personally I like their hit "U Make Me Wanna"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koHo5-0DVlI

I am also fond of the Chinese version of that same song done with Elva

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ppcnqen0B8

Mindozas
03-08-2011, 11:52 AM
I apologize and stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out. The British song by "Blue" is actually called "I Can". The song will premiere on 11 March 2011. So that's quite soon. I will put it as soon as it is available.

The song "If You Come Back" that I mistakenly put was there last hit in 2004.

Me personally I like their hit "U Make Me Wanna"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koHo5-0DVlI

I am also fond of the Chinese version of that same song done with Elva

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ppcnqen0B8

My favorite of Blue was exactly "If You Come Back", from what I remember, I also liked "Breath Easy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jo7jG--IwU&feature=related) and "Guilty" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1QgEOYQMb0&feature=relmfu).
Wll wait for ESC song, hopefully won't be worse :)

BTW, yesterday while browsing youtube, found out that ESC2009 runner-up Yohanna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agOf69AoxcE) from Iceland (I fell for her then :o ), once again tried her luck, but finished 3rd in National Qualifiers. However loved her song (of course maybe I was affected by the old feelings too :o :D) Icelandic version

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Billy Bounce
03-08-2011, 01:13 PM
BTW, yesterday while browsing youtube, found out that ESC2009 runner-up Yohanna from Iceland (I fell for her then ), once again tried her luck, but finished 3rd in National Qualifiers. However loved her song (of course maybe I was affected by the old feelings too ) Icelandic

Lovely song, although the from visual point of view I liked the old Yohanna's look more - she was kinda more natural with blond hair :p

Today is Israeli National Qualifiers, apart from traditional bo-o-oring ballads & pop there is a little bit of fresh air :

1) Chanson
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2) Reggae :cool:

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3) Ireland folk style

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4) Country style

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Hope the reggae song will win :cool:

ip84
03-08-2011, 03:18 PM
Hope the reggae song will win :cool:
Not my musical style but I agree with you.

goga78
03-08-2011, 04:48 PM
Can you give a link to the KDAM page with all participants?

Mindozas
03-08-2011, 05:41 PM
Lovely song, although the from visual point of view I liked the old Yohanna's look more - she was kinda more natural with blond hair :p

Today is Israeli National Qualifiers, apart from traditional bo-o-oring ballads & pop there is a little bit of fresh air :

Hope the reggae song will win :cool:

Never was a fan of reggae, so I liked 3rd one the most, Irish folk motives makes her more lively, tough song misses smth on it's burden. However, at least you, guys, have smth to choose from, in Lithuania exactly the boooring pop ballad won:

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I liked the 2nd place entry the most, but nothing spectacular too

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Like most of the times Lithuania will give a hard time to everybody in fight for the last positions :D

Yohanna come to Lithuania! :o

ip84
03-08-2011, 06:06 PM
I also think that the second one was much nicer...

Regarding our song the song that Billy and me like have nice lyrics, but maybe it's not an Eurovision song as others don't understand the language... If it was translated to English it would be much better.

Billy Bounce
03-08-2011, 07:17 PM
Can you give a link to the KDAM page with all participants?

Here it is http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=37C104BD3EC12053

Billy Bounce
03-08-2011, 07:44 PM
I also think that the second one was much nicer...

Regarding our song the song that Billy and me like have nice lyrics, but maybe it's not an Eurovision song as others don't understand the language... If it was translated to English it would be much better.

Objection, your honor :p

Last 2-3 years the winning songs were in English, so everybody jumped the bangwagon & started to sing in English . Nowadays you can hardly tell who is from which country , let alone remember the melody

Maybe it's my personal crush for exotic languages, but I enjoyed Yohanna for the sound of Icelandic or Estonian girls signing "Urban symphony" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOsmEO_osXQ&feature=related

worldbasketball
03-09-2011, 06:52 AM
The Danish entry is just growing on me as a fantastic song.

It is by a band called "A Friend in London" and the song is called "New Tomorrow".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_3Ma2URVzg

They sing very well live. Listen to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7Hf0lvRYY (live)

However a controversy is erupting regarding the song saying that the music, particularly the chorus is just a faster version of the Japanese music "Silk Road" by Kitaro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoURE7kheKg

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Not that this band "a Friend in London" is a talentless plagiarizing band. They are great to listen to. Just check their output setting Eurovision aside:

The Light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcTjqyYbhk

What A Way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZg8ABF4www

Now You're Here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzvV8DmgKOI

So as you see, way way above just a Eurovision band, is it. This is a band to watch many many years beyond Eurovision.

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This reminds me of a very similar controversy with the Swiss entry of 2008 when we had this great song by Paolo Meneguzzi called "Era stupendo"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2yktrmzsE0

But then a controversy rose that it was taken from a song by Amy Diamond called "It Can Only Get Better":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogu0sd1fHNw

The Swiss song didn't even make it to the final.

Billy Bounce
03-09-2011, 08:38 AM
All attempts to bring something new & refreshing successfully failed, as expected.

Israel will be presented by a crappy pop-dance by Dana International(tm)

The last place @ESC , here we come :D

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ip84
03-09-2011, 03:33 PM
I thought that Billy put all the participants there, and suddenly today I saw that the winner yesterday was this one
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That's more typical Eurovision song and not bad for Eurovision standards... and not something that will make me to watch Eurovision...

Buzissa
03-09-2011, 05:52 PM
"Luta ť Alegria" with translation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhF6LgkU0fM&feature=related) by "Homens da Luta". There's a slight difference between image and sound. The word FADO was wrongly translated (fate), since it has no translation.
I love this guys. All of their songs are about political issues. They won due to public vote (the other 50% were voted by juries) and that represents a global protest against the present government, imo. This outcome was quite predictable, since they have 180.000 followers on Facebook.

worldbasketball
03-12-2011, 06:04 AM
As promissed, today the British entry was revealed -- the boy band Blue with "I Can"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myoWskACaCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyyjuwYxWkU (live on BBC One)

It is catchy, but is it winning material?

Here are all the previous British wins

1967: Sandie Shaw "Puppet on a String"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrs8CgpH980

1969 (joint with Spain / Netherlands / France...): Lulu in "Boom Bang-a-Bang"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWkH4ee8TQ

1976: Brotherhood of Man "Save Your Kisses For Me"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bKAPVpA46o

1981: Bucks Fizz "Making Up Your Mind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pACePi441ds

1997: Katrina and the Waves "Live Shine A Light"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=106joSv-OSM

That's it really... Just 5 times. Will this be the 6th... Let's see...

Mindozas
03-12-2011, 04:14 PM
As promissed, today the British entry was revealed -- the boy band Blue with "I Can"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myoWskACaCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyyjuwYxWkU (live on BBC One)

It is catchy, but is it winning material?



I like the way song starts, goin', all those tunes, it's really catchy, but the main part of it, I mean burden, somehow dissapointed a bit. Of course everyone got own taste, but IMO it could have been better and the song could be decent material for Grand Prix. Now I don't know, of course it's one of the most professional entries and should be among favorites

worldbasketball
03-12-2011, 06:15 PM
I like the way song starts, goin', all those tunes, it's really catchy, but the main part of it, I mean burden, somehow dissapointed a bit. Of course everyone got own taste, but IMO it could have been better and the song could be decent material for Grand Prix. Now I don't know, of course it's one of the most professional entries and should be among favorites

Of course the more you listen to Blue's "I Can", the better it sounds. Really. Plus that they sing live very well. Problem is some people sing beautiful songs, but in the final, their live performance and stage presence is lacking. Not with Blue though. They have the charisma and are "eye candy" and will get big votes. But production is over the top.

Here is the music video going with the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2N_cQxTS_k


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If you want real catchy tunes, then "Haba Haba" by Norway's Kenyan singer Stella Mwangi gets great ratings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFe8JtJ-ELA (video -- not official)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7k9vOc_B9w (live)

and despite the controversy, I just love Danish entry by A Friend in London entitled "New Tomorrow". These are true Eurovision type songs with great appeal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_3Ma2URVzg (audio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Ghz1Fml28 (live)

As a song, if you ask me, my absolute favourite is Finland's Paradise Oskar with "Da Da Dam". I have posted the song earlier in this thread and here I post a live version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmEa6rkItGY (live)

No charisma as you see, no gimmicks, not particularly a great voice either. But a great song he wrote (lyrics and music) and is singing his heart out. Absolutely magic.

worldbasketball
03-12-2011, 08:55 PM
Here is the terrible terrible Irish entry this year
Jedward in "Lipstick"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxo69Rq8sfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbOGgjDIS4 (live)

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Although the duo who annoyed Simon Cowell in X Factor but gained great following were fine in their cover of "Under Pressure" featuring Vanilla Ice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J2_t_9BmAo (X factor show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx37heIfwvg (video clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Fo9KSWCEo (live at the National Television Awards)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee2VV1VnPBI (background interview)

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But this is as good chance as any to put the beautiful ballad Ireland brought in with Niamh Kavanagh - It's For You in 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5XorOdx0w

worldbasketball
03-12-2011, 10:50 PM
The Lebanese -Swedish singer Eric Saade (a solo singer but formerly of the boy band What's Up!) will represent Sweden after tonight 12 March he won the Melodifestivalen with "Popular". He brought in the title after getting 193 points against Danny Saucedo who came second with 149 points with "In The Club". Third was The Moniker with "Oh My God" and 124 points.

Eric Saade "Popular" - winner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfx0OMM2u0A

Danny Saucedo "In the Club" - 2nd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_iz6e3ETPg

The Moniker "Oh My God" - 3rd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J98-P5dQxdU

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Here are some songs by Swedish winner for Eurovision Eric Saade

"Sleepless"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ab8eGx5Gq4

"Manboy" (Last year's 3rd place in Melodifestivalen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aipUJFm-5iQ

"Break of Dawn"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k55OamTp85s

"Masquerade"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Tcfn2ZEgg

"Still Loving It"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KRtBSN26pE

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Here is Eric Saade giving the results of the Swedish vote in 2010 which gained him great following from all over Europe saying "Who IS this guy?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw4xUBpkl_k

ip84
03-13-2011, 07:58 AM
"Luta ť Alegria" with translation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhF6LgkU0fM&feature=related) by "Homens da Luta". There's a slight difference between image and sound. The word FADO was wrongly translated (fate), since it has no translation.
I love this guys. All of their songs are about political issues. They won due to public vote (the other 50% were voted by juries) and that represents a global protest against the present government, imo. This outcome was quite predictable, since they have 180.000 followers on Facebook.

This is more like a parody on protesters in many occasions, that their major motivation to attend protests is because they are bored and for them it's a social event, a party... not the declared cause :D

worldbasketball
03-14-2011, 07:11 AM
France this year is going to absolute class with Amauri Vassili and "Sognu" (read as Sonniu) in Corsican language, but very very very Italian feel to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb7hRo-Qyk

Obviously it is getting rave reviews, but is it Eurovision material? Me I adore it. It is stunning and gorgeous.

Here's the guy singing the very popular well-known song "Lucente Stella"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCRt4VjYAJI

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France is known to take great chances to bring variety of so many different styles almost every year. Last year they had Congolese Jessy Matador "Allez Ola Ole" with a Mundial type football which I cannot put off my mind for some reason.... for its sheer energy and dance moves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqpFUVAEhn8

So you can see the 180 degrees turn this year!!

But then in 1991 they had this "gem" - Amina (a French Tunisian) and "Le dernier qui a parlť". It got equal marks with the winner from Sweden but was declared second

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnxEBAoCZIw

and they were so courageous with a "franglais" song in 2007 with the Fatal Picards in "Amour ŗ la FranÁaise" although French language experts were not pleased at all, but the French public just loved it and made so many videos of what the song talks about by the tonne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4VcSQE7DXg

Yet in 2001 they had the charming Canadian singer Natasha St-Pierre with "Je n'ai que mon ame"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkljWaKLhjQ

ip84
03-14-2011, 09:36 AM
worldbasketball, may I ask how you in Canada got yourself being so interested in this contest?

worldbasketball
03-14-2011, 11:00 AM
worldbasketball, may I ask how you in Canada got yourself being so interested in this contest?

Thanks for your interest. Actually I used to follow Eurovision for no less than 20 years now. I am a naturalized Canadian though, not born in Canada, so its not THAT strange. I just love European music and I love music from all over the world, so I contribute a lot for example in the thread about music in other languages and from various countries.

Montreal where I live is truly a great European-cultured city actually with a very diverse culture. We are influenced by American music but there is a truly Canadian music scene. And many also produce music which is very ethnic from all over the world.

Incidentally there are many ethnic communities in Canada who follow Eurovision quite keenly and know many of the songs, and certainly the songs of their own countries of origin and follow their progress and even watch the event live like the Greeks, the Turks, the Armenians, the Jews, all the East Europeans (Romanians, Poles, Serbs and Croats, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Russians, Ukrainians) mainly through their own satellite channels.

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I don't know if you know this, but I am so happy that some Canadians like Natasha St-Pierre have taken part in Eurovision.. even more importantly a Canadian has won the Eurovision Song Contest in 1988 with a superb song sending her into world stardom.

She is the Canadian Cťline Dion who sang and won for Switzerland with "Ne partez pas sans moi" written by a Turkish-Swiss composer Atilla Şereftuğ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pEYw8PcBas (live in Eurovision)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x10Eq7jhhXk (video clip)

Granted she was known in France, Belgium etc, but her winning Eurovision gave her great success in non French countries all over Europe, he Middle East and in Asia and Australia which she didn't have before.

Mindozas
03-14-2011, 11:49 AM
While browsing TV channels on weekend, managed to catch the premiere of Russian ESC entry. What was said before the song caught my attention, song was created by some guy who is an author of lot of Lady Gaga hits, also worked with some other famous singers, has grammy. I'm far from bein' a fan of Gaga, but it supposed to be smth, at the end... dissapointment

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Billy Bounce
03-14-2011, 01:03 PM
France this year is going to absolute class with Amauri Vassili and "Sognu" (read as Sonniu) in Corsican language, but very very very Italian feel to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb7hRo-Qyk

Obviously it is getting rave reviews, but is it Eurovision material? Me I adore it. It is stunning and gorgeous.

...

The main theme kinda resembles Vangelis Conquest Of Paradise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYeDsa4Tw0c&feature=fvwrel) , but the voice is awesome. :eek:

The best entry so far. Hope he'll be wise enough to bring hot back-vocal girls , otherwise - no chance of winning :D

worldbasketball
03-14-2011, 01:37 PM
While browsing TV channels on weekend, managed to catch the premiere of Russian ESC entry. What was said before the song caught my attention, song was created by some guy who is an author of lot of Lady Gaga hits, also worked with some other famous singers, has grammy. I'm far from bein' a fan of Gaga, but it supposed to be smth, at the end... dissapointment
Yeh, actually what they are talking about is the writer and producer of the song for Alexey Vorobyov called "Get You".

This is the producer RedOne, whose true name is Nadir Khayat, a Moroccan Swedish producer and songwriter (born in Tťtouane Morocco).

RedOne's beginnings were with another very famous producer the Palestinian-Swedish Rami Yacoub. Rami Yacoub had already worked with Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Cťline Dion, NSync, Nick Carter , Westlife and a favourite of mine from UK X Factor Shayne Ward. So he encouraged RedOne and made introductions for him.

As to RedOne, he has gone on to do huge work for most of Lady GaGa international hits including "Poker Face", "LoveGame", "Paper Gangsta" and "Boys Boys Boys", "Bad Romance", "Alejandro", "Monster", "So Happy I Could Die")

He has worked also with artists like Akon, Usher, Sean Kingston, Alexandra Burke, Mika, Enrique Iglesias, Jennifer Lopez, Kat DeLuna and a favourite of mine Darin Zanyar in "Step Up" a #1 in Sweden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsu7XPbKqMg

Nadir Khayat (RedOne) has his own record company "2101 Records" as a joint venture with Universal Music Group International. And he has won a Grammy.

The act signed to the label of RedOne for now is the Swedish-Congolese Mohombi known with his hit "Bumpy Ride"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2RCCDSBEGk

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To be fair, we should not forget the co-writer of the Alexey Vorobyov song "Get You". This is a British guy actually called Lucien Jack, who studied Spanish and Russian at the University of Nottingham in England and works in Public Relations.

He is also a performing artist known as Hun known in Spain with "Gone Before It Happens".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-H4tN0p36I

He is also known as "Lucien" and has had hits in Spain, Austria, Russia and England. Check for example Je Suis Un Superstar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhWqwBPyo7o

Check also "Hook You Up" from Lucien

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYgGOggWfDk

and his collaboration with Alaska in "Ultimatum"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VbuhIS7GTE

Billy Bounce
03-15-2011, 02:09 PM
Yeh, actually what they are talking about is the writer and producer of the song for Alexey Vorobyov called "Get You".

This is the producer RedOne, whose true name is Nadir Khayat, a Moroccan Swedish producer and songwriter (born in Tťtouane Morocco).

...

Man, how do you know all those tiny details? :eek:

As for "Get You" itself , 100% it will crush & burn. Just check what happened with Azerbaijani entry "Drip Drop" last year. The song was written by Anders Bagge - the author of {Madonna, Janet Jackson, Santana, Jennifer Lopez, Nick Lachey, Jessica Simpson, Celine Dion, Lara Fabian, Enrique Iglesias, Ace of Base and Ashley Tisdale} hits. Yet it failed, despite a massive PR campaign.

The old story of a solid catchy song performed by a singer with charisma of a damp rag :D

worldbasketball
03-16-2011, 11:56 PM
"Me and My Drum" by Swingfly an American-born naturalised Swedish rapper and singer.

This Swedish song was in Melodifestivalen 2011, the Swedish pre-selection contest to pick the artist and the song that will represent Sweden.

I know Eric Saade won... with "Popular". But for sheer silly heart-beating pleasure of this double entendre, about Swedish drums and .. you-know-what LOL..

My goodness.. Just the perfect sex thrill song...

I swear, if I am depressed, I just put this song... and my depression is gone instantaneously... This is better than any anti-depressant pill I tell you!!! If you are sad for any reason, just put this and see its magic on your mood...
This is soooo bad, it is soooo good in many ways. I am sure, even if you hate this "annoying" song at first, it will bring a broad smile on your face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIq5WvNxKvo (live at Melodifestivalen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhjoEtw9iY (studio version)


ME AND MY DRUM
By Swingfly

Yeah, let's go! Yeah!

Some people call it their rhythm, I call it the drum
'Cause I beat it down once in a while, like it got slow or somethin'
She wanna hold some, I told her to roll some
She said I'm cold-frontin', no no no: go-stunting

I know my A's, I know my B's, I know my C-D-E's
My F, my G's, all the way down to Z's
Hey, that's why it's rhymes like these
Because me and my drum, closer than twin siamese

Yo, I got that boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom-boom-boom
That'll zoom-zoom-zoom and how you boom-boom-boom
I got that boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom-boom-boom
That'll zoom-zoom-zoom and how you boom-boom-boom

I'm gonna stand till I get there
I'm gonna get there, me and my drum
Just give me a chance, I'm gonna stay there
I ain't going nowhere, me and my drum
Me and my drum

Yo, I could shake it up a little bit, show you how I fiddle it
Take you to another place and then you feel my bass kick
Boom-boom, now take it easy you're gonna break something
Boom-boom, ok mama, I think you broke something

You could call me show-stopper, go-popper, flow-popper
Drama, drama, drama, drama, drama like a soap opera
So when the beat knocks, street rocks, you might need some detox
Get ready for my beatbox

Boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom-boom-boom
That'll zoom-zoom-zoom and how you boom-boom-boom
I got that boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom-boom-boom
That'll zoom-zoom-zoom and how you boom-boom-boom

I'm gonna stand till I get there
I'm gonna get there, me and my drum
Just give me a chance, I'm gonna stay there
I ain't going nowhere, me and my drum
Me and my drum, me and my drum
Me and my drum, me and my drum

Check out my drum
Check out my drum, my drum is dumb
My drum is numb, I think you all want some
Hot like a fresh-baked bun
It's hot like the sun, hot like a smokin' gun

I'm gonna stand 'till I get there
I'm gonna get there, me and my drum
Just give me a chance, I'm gonna stay there
I ain't going nowhere, me and my drum
Me and my drum, me and my drum
Me and my drum, me and my drum
Me and my drum

Mindozas
03-18-2011, 01:57 PM
Listened to all the songs, quite week contest this year IMO, atleast from 1st impression I've got. I used to download song or few almost every year, but 2nd year in a row there are none that would be that good for my liking.
However, besides already mentioned Blue (UK entry), what I also kinda liked was Slovakian entry, slow pop song, but quite well made, has the flow, beat, however still lacks some culmination, which makes it look little bit monotonic, so I'd say it doesn't live it up it's potential. Also girls looks like European version of Paris Hilton, not my type definitely :o

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Another one entry, which is quite good - Hungary. Typicall Eurodance song, good, but not too impressive, still IMO might go far

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The 3rd one - Azerbaidjan. Another slow song, but quite professionally made (for ESC standarts), still the same like Slovakian one, a bit too monotonic and misses smth to be complete

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In conclusion - Yohanna was the best, god dammit Iceland :mad: :)

worldbasketball
03-21-2011, 06:07 AM
This is Hungarian entry who have put a very decent song indeed.

Kati Wolf - "What about my dreams"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgWqN_vBim8

Same in Hungarian "Szerelem, miťrt mķlsz?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RxugDLwnjs

I just love this.

worldbasketball
03-21-2011, 07:10 AM
Talking about missed chances of last year, Javi Mota (formerly of the Spanish band Banghra) had in 2010 put forward a song I just discovered. It never even reached the final for preselection, but still a quality song.

Javi Mota in "Amarte Hoy" written by Roel Garcia and produced by Ivan VŠzquez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKEAkSlZKyQ

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Talking of Spain, I was doing some research about earlier entries and noted that D'Nash who had represented them with "I Love You Mi Vida" and reasonably done well, could have done much better with "Amanda", again a 2007 song, a very Euro-sounding uplifting song and music taped in London, kind of reminding me of Blue using London city scenery and to my mind much more exciting than "I Love You Mi Vida"

D'Nash in "Amanda"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpC8bjBIGo

plus an alternative music video of "Amanda"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnLKuQNF9kk

Obviously Spanish language is so beautiful and suited for singing!!!

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Another song that didn't make it for example and was eliminated in preselection is the Swedish singer Jonathan Fagerlund who put this delightful song "Welcome to my life" where we visit various scenes from Stockholm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDkPgnUomkc

Believe it or not, Jonathan Fagerlund applied with this song for Sweden "Father's Lullaby", in what I consider an unforgettable song with great meaning. I just couldn't put this song out of my mind as soon as I heard it the first time ever and it still effects me immensely just every time I put it on on YouTube

Jonathan Fagerlund "Father's Lullaby"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Y0I5ALyMk

FATHER'S LULLABY Lyrics

I remember years ago when I was just a boy
Every evening
I would fall asleep to the sound of my father's voice
And he said to me
This will take you safely through the night
So drift away to my father's lullaby

"Lay your body down
Rest your weary head awhile
Close your eyes and fly away till morning
Over fields of green mountainside you've ever seen
When you're in these arms of mine
I will sing my father's lullaby"

The boy got older
Here I am and now those days are gone
When I miss him
I can always find some comfort in that song
Maybe someday
I'll have children of my own saying goodnight
Listening to my father's lullaby

"Lay your body down
Rest your weary head awhile
Close your eyes and fly away till morning
Over fields of green mountainside you've ever seen
When you're in these arms of mine
I will sing my father's lullaby"

(Changed refrain -- talking in 1st person singular)
Well, lay my body down
Rest my weary head awhile
Close my eyes and fly away till morning
Over fields of green mountainside I've ever seen
Let me hear it one last time
Will you sing my father's lullaby
I will sing my father's lullaby

worldbasketball
03-22-2011, 03:00 PM
The Irish entry "Lipstick" is playing on Quebec (French Canada) music channel Musique Plus! That is very unusual for they at MusiquePlus just ignore Eurovision completely, yet they picked this song, basically for the Jedward hair-do and because for the music station, this is a "novelty record". We don't get The X Factor here, so even the song "Under Pressure" featuring Vanilla Ice didn't show at all. But "Lipstick" got through....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGIYdrj9PrM

Also check here the comments at the beginning and the end on the "Late Late Show"

Billy Bounce
03-22-2011, 04:16 PM
My faves this year:

1) The second coming of Roxette :cool:

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2) Awesome voice :eek:

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3) Because it's Vlado Illievski that looks like a shorter version of Mirza Teletovic :D

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worldbasketball
03-23-2011, 12:38 AM
Great choices Billy Bounce. The Macedonian song I was hearing the first time and it is a fine fine song and video clip.

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I have heard the San Marino song "Stand By" by Senit and it is a beautiful song. Senit is a reasonably well-known Italian singer of Eritrean origin and she is a class act.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2zL2Vs4xvs

This is only the second time San Marino is taking part.

To know her singing abilities, just check this gorgeous song "Everytime" , for "Panini for Charity"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKtvTPDRiJs

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San Marino's only other try was in 2008. It was to compensate for Italy withdrawing in 2007 from Eurovision Song Contest. That year San Marino came with the song "Complice" (English: "Accomplice"), a song by Miodio, a San Marino pop group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul3Ls3B6S9s

It just got 5 points that year.

worldbasketball
03-28-2011, 07:56 PM
Some more very good songs

Azerbaijani entry is by Ell and Nikki (meaning Eldar Gasimov and Nigar Jamal) in "Running Scared"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvZlEAP5Z28

Romanian entry is by Hotel FM and called "Change"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96be3a5Wl8U

ip84
03-30-2011, 10:01 AM
All attempts to bring something new & refreshing successfully failed, as expected.

Israel will be presented by a crappy pop-dance by Dana International(tm)

The last place @ESC , here we come :D

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BTW, non of us mentioned the story of Dana International that is known, but maybe not for everyone here.
First that she already won the 1998 contest.
Second is that she used to be Yaron Chohen before changing the gender.

worldbasketball
04-02-2011, 01:18 PM
Malta also brings good songs. This year they come with a dance tune through Glen Vella and "One Life":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIa_QV-LM8g

I am putting it just for the music video!!! It looks like an ad from United Colors of Benetton LOL

ONE LIFE

Lifeís a game, itís a mystery
Take advantage
Days go by, no lesson learned
Just things that you do

Things change even in my mind
Not in my heart
I am who I am
And Iím here for you

One life show whatís in your heart
Love me like I love you
One life, Itís all we got to live
Time to set your heart free

Chase the pain away
Move on and donít give up
This time itís all up to you
You can love yourself, love

Life is strange and heavenly
A sweet surrender (surrender)
Love begins within ourselves
Makes up our lives

Hold on to what life brings you
Just be who you are
You can do it too
Itís all up to you

One life show whatís in your heart
Love me like I love you
One life itís all we got to live
Time to set your heart free

Chase the pain away
Move on and donít give up
This anekatips time itís all up to you
You can love yourself "love"

Donít try to judge me
You donít know how I feel
Love me, love me for who I am
My life, I will give it all, I give it all to you, give it all

One life show whatís in your heart
Love me like I love you
One life itís all we got to live
Time to set your heart free

Chase the pain away
Move on and donít give up
This time itís all up to you
You can love yourself love
Itís all up to you you can love yourself love
You can love yourself love

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There was another remarkable song competing against Glen Vella that has become a favorite of mine because it is so exotic and because I love baklava, a sweet delicatessen The song that failed to reach Eurovision from Malta this year -- The band Baklava and "Moondance". There were 24 songs competing but this one stood out for me for its many world influences - I am sure it is found in many folk tunes in Balkans, Turkey, Middle East and further away in Asia and many European countries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKUBEX10rks

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For some reason I just love Malta's 2002 entry Ira Losco with 7th Wonder.. but excuse the quality of the registration here, but it is utterly cute lyrics, music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUtScem76Hg

Of course Malta's best was Chiara

They presented her in 1998 with "The One That I Love"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuGLbwj-MwU

and of course "Angel" in 2005. This is just one of the best sung ever in Eurovision. Didn't win though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyBvNDuIsWM

worldbasketball
04-05-2011, 06:38 PM
Although not everybody's bag, but I am truly developing this huge fondness for the Greek entry, a strange mix of traditional tune "Watch My Dance" sung in Greek by Loukas Giorkas feat. Stereo Mike rapping in English, some say even ruining it in English. LOL

I don't know what's with this song though and the voice Loukas Giorkas that makes me so involved and nostalgic as if it was a song written so long ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27gtuLhiac

Loukas Giorkas is actually a Greek Cypriot and winner of The Greek X Factor and Stereo Mike is Mihalis Exarhos the first MTV EMA Award winner as Best Greek Act

Delibasic
04-05-2011, 10:28 PM
israel in eurovision, what a joke!

why not lebanon and palestine then?

ip84
04-06-2011, 10:55 PM
israel in eurovision, what a joke!

why not lebanon and palestine then?
Lets have a separate topic about each sport/tournament/even of Europe that Israel participate it and discuss why!

troll.

worldbasketball
04-10-2011, 06:19 AM
UK is taking Eurovision more seriously.
How much more seriously? Well to the extent the Blue members are baring it on "Attitude" magazine's "Naked issue".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88zm_aKbu-A

They appear on its cover as well:

http://www.popinstereo.com/archives/15341

BBC is also broadcasting "Your country needs Blue" will air on BBC One on Saturday 16 April. An extensive documentary on the British entry Blue, there will be archive footage from the past mixed in with the cameras following the band members behind the scenes as they get ready for their Eurovision task. and as they record and remix the song, or work on a new image and meet choreographers, designers and stylists. Some of their publicity blitz around Europe will also be shown. At the end of the show the viewers will see the finished song I can in a special performance, ready for DŁsseldorf.

Blue and "I Can" live on "Top of the Pops" Top 40 British singles show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBCTyMAtvmA

worldbasketball
04-10-2011, 06:28 AM
Who will win Eurovision 2011 on May 14?

If you believe the bets taken in England,

1. France 13-2
2. Estonia 7-1
3. UK 10-1
4. Sweden 11-1
5. Germany 13-1
6. Norway
7. Bosnia Herzegvina
8. Azerbaijan
9. Denmark
10. Hungary
in that order

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Just to be fair, another website says:

1. Estonia are now in front with 11-2
2. France 5-1
3. UK 7-1.
4. Sweden 9-1
5. Azerbaijan with 10-1
6. Germany
7. Norway
8. Bosnia Herzegovina
9. Hungary
10. Denmark
in that order

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Of course as sentiments change, bets change, but it is a battle between Estonia, France, UK and Sweden it seems.

As to countries with near to zero chance of winning anything, odd of 150-1 or 200-1 even 250-1 countries mentioned are (sorry no offense ok, I am just quoting bets) --
Portugal
Malta
Belgium
Cyprus
Iceland
Lithuania
San Marino
Albania
Belarus....

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Here are the favourites generally in order of bets

France - Amaury Vassili - "Sognu"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YnfV-nuE00

Estonia - Getter Jaani - "Rockefeller Street"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmgsd1rlybg

UK - Blue - "I Can"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2JYc_jWIDQ

Sweden - Eric Saade - "Popular"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfx0OMM2u0A

Azerbaijan - Ell and Niki - "Running Scared"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgE3bDH647M

Bosnia Herzegovina - Dino Merlin - "Love in Rewind"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPyVQCmGsYo

Germany - Lena - "Taken by a Stranger"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoRPuk756qU

Denmark - A Friend in London - "New Tomorrow"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fFy5Icbh0

Hungary - Kati Wolf - "What About My Dreams"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKNKfePCrs

Norway - Stella Mwangi - "Haba Haba"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qx4RQwq7Og

I think I covered all the countries appearing in the bets.

PS: You may have your other favorites, but these seem to be the top nominees. Of course other bets may classify differently or mention other worthwhile entries....

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I have checked all the songs above and they are very good songs I agree. But just to prove my point, for example songs that I also like but I can't find even near the lists above:

Finland - Paradise Oskar - "Da Da Dam"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDsA9PutU4

San Marino - Senit - "Stand By"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwRQIZbnWs

Macedonia - Vlatko Ilievski - "Rusinka"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOC6Yd0E43g

Greece - Loucas Yiorkas featuring Stereo Mike - "Watch My Dance"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QtZwNx8WVg

Cyprus - Christos Mylordou - San angelos s'agapisa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC7L6SDPL4A

Billy Bounce
04-10-2011, 07:27 AM
Who will win Eurovision 2011 on May 14?

..
Of course as sentiments change, bets change, but it is a battle between Estonia, France, UK and Sweden it seems



Bets are joke. France & UK has no chances. Since Yugo & Soviet breakout countries-blocks rule the competition.

Lone countries (like France/UK) have a chance only if some powerful block supports them. Like it happen to last year Germany : Nordic block ( Sweden/Finland/Norway/Denmark/Estonia) all gave 12s to Germany & they won.

Sweden song is too shallow to win something.

In my view the main favorites are Estonia , Denmark and probably some Balkan country ( Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia )

worldbasketball
04-10-2011, 07:34 AM
Bets are joke. France & UK has no chances. Since Yugo & Soviet breakout countries-blocks rule the competition.

Lone countries (like France/UK) have a chance only if some powerful block supports them. Like it happen to last year Germany : Nordic block ( Sweden/Finland/Norway/Denmark/Estonia) all gave 12s to Germany & they won.

Sweden song is too shallow to win something.

In my view the main favorites are Estonia , Denmark and probably some Balkan country ( Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia )

You are probably right. But people are putting their own money on these bets.

But forget the bets, it would be interesting to see what are the favourites of our Interbasket members, regardless of the "political" and "bloc" voting that you are suggesting.

Farfiman
04-10-2011, 02:39 PM
Finally the UK entry by the boy band "Blue" has been announced. It is "If You Come Back" , a very decent and beautiful song, but I feel will not make a big impact despite the good looks and the fame the band enjoys:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us3dQ0nnlHY

One of the better UK songs in years....but not too hard to do , most were quite bad these last years

Farfiman
04-10-2011, 02:43 PM
Who will win Eurovision 2011 on May 14?

Norway - Stella Mwangi - "Haba Haba"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qx4RQwq7Og



All i can say is ...OH MY GOD

Farfiman
04-10-2011, 03:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oqGYn-qGbk

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxo5CQUzrmA&feature=fvwrel


quick run down of all the songs to help....

elaj
04-12-2011, 09:42 PM
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Apparently this is the song Slovenia is sending to Eurovision. As always, we gonna be at the bottom even if the song doesn't completely suck - the vocal is great.

Juan Carlos Nadal
04-12-2011, 10:45 PM
Some comments on some of my favs and not so favs.

Latvia. The song was stuck in my head for days after I first listened to it. Sure the lyrics are cheesy and cliche but the guy has a mesmerizing voice and it kicks ass even live. You should check their other song (sang in Latvian) called "Dzīve Izdodas". I had that thing in my head for weeks!

Hungary. A very Eurovision-esque song but atmospheric and very pleasant.

Bulgaria. Nice voice. It doesn't suck.

Greece. If they dropped the rap part it would be even better. People outside the Balkans will not vote for a song of such a genre and I therefore predict a lowly placement.

France. Nice voice, nice song, creepy guy (just watch his live performance on the presentation of the song and you'll understand what I mean). A breath of fresh air in Eurovision.

Turkey. A very promising song, but given its rhythm it could have been made better. But who am I to judge, I know absolutely zilch about music.

FYROM. Clever approach. Throw some Russian allure in there, get some strategic votes, make a little bit of propaganda by making sure you use the "M" word (since you are on the big stage and you'll be heard by millions) and you got a win-win situation. I am very indifferent towards the actual song itself though.

UK. Blue had a couple of decent songs back in their day but this one is so pathetically generic even by Brit-Pop standards

Ireland. Oh God.

B&H. I've always liked Merlin's voice but he should stick to his own language. He is not doing it justice.

Denmark. Interesting song. I actually like it a bit.

Estonia. That damn song got stuck in my head even though I didn't even like it initially. I don't love it still but I can see how it has captivated some people.

Jon_Koncak
04-12-2011, 11:03 PM
UK. Blue had a couple of decent songs back in their day but this one is so pathetically generic even by Brit-Pop standards

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brit pop is a term used for the genre created by early 90s alternative bands like Oasis,Blur,Suede,Pulp,Stone Roses etc.It has no relation to pop bands like Blue.terminology fail.

SunOverHStreet
04-13-2011, 12:17 AM
Latvia. The song was stuck in my head for days after I first listened to it. Sure the lyrics are cheesy and cliche but the guy has a mesmerizing voice and it kicks ass even live. You should check their other song (sang in Latvian) called "Dzīve Izdodas". I had that thing in my head for weeks!
I just checked it out... BTW, may I ask, what other song? The song is the same, just with different arrangement.
And it fits perfectly for ESC standards...

Juan Carlos Nadal
04-13-2011, 01:50 AM
brit pop is a term used for the genre created by early 90s alternative bands like Oasis,Blur,Suede,Pulp,Stone Roses etc.It has no relation to pop bands like Blue.terminology fail.

Indeed. I am aware of this. The use of the term "Brit-pop" was unfortunate. What I was intending to refer to was "British Pop" as defined by the dance/r&b/whatchamacallit genre popular in the late 90s early 00s.


Call it a Becirovism of music terminology if you will.

worldbasketball
04-13-2011, 03:47 PM
Some comments on some of my favs and not so favs.

Latvia. The song was stuck in my head for days after I first listened to it. Sure the lyrics are cheesy and cliche but the guy has a mesmerizing voice and it kicks ass even live. You should check their other song (sang in Latvian) called "Dzīve Izdodas". I had that thing in my head for weeks!

Hungary. A very Eurovision-esque song but atmospheric and very pleasant.

Bulgaria. Nice voice. It doesn't suck.

Greece. If they dropped the rap part it would be even better. People outside the Balkans will not vote for a song of such a genre and I therefore predict a lowly placement.

France. Nice voice, nice song, creepy guy (just watch his live performance on the presentation of the song and you'll understand what I mean). A breath of fresh air in Eurovision.

Turkey. A very promising song, but given its rhythm it could have been made better. But who am I to judge, I know absolutely zilch about music.

FYROM. Clever approach. Throw some Russian allure in there, get some strategic votes, make a little bit of propaganda by making sure you use the "M" word (since you are on the big stage and you'll be heard by millions) and you got a win-win situation. I am very indifferent towards the actual song itself though.

UK. Blue had a couple of decent songs back in their day but this one is so pathetically generic even by Brit-Pop standards

Ireland. Oh God.

B&H. I've always liked Merlin's voice but he should stick to his own language. He is not doing it justice.

Denmark. Interesting song. I actually like it a bit.

Estonia. That damn song got stuck in my head even though I didn't even like it initially. I don't love it still but I can see how it has captivated some people.

I am quoting your input because you made me re-listen to some of the entries and take your comments about them.

Perhaps I should make an effort to quote the rest of the songs as well as links, although many may suck, after all this is Eurovision.

I took your comments to heart about singing in English. You are absolutely right. It is true for Merlin (Bosnia and Herzegovina) and true for many others. For me, an artist sounds best when singing in his own national language. This anglicization of Eurovision has gone really too far it is out of hand now. Eurovision is practically our ONLY chance to hear a number of languages, yet all we hear these days is English. I am all for translating lyrics as a subtitle, but each country should sing in its own language or languages if it has more than one official language.

I love Switzerland for a reason. Every time they bring in a new language. No 2 years are the same. It can be in French, it can be in German, it can be in Italian, I just love them.

A country like Spain should follow the lead of France this year that brought a minority language song. Spain should have songs from time to time in Catalan, Basque, Galecian etc...

Juan Carlos Nadal
04-16-2011, 03:31 PM
I just checked it out... BTW, may I ask, what other song? The song is the same, just with different arrangement.
And it fits perfectly for ESC standards...



Wait. What?

Are you telling me that this song:

1aN83DUSChM


...is the same song as this(?):


EZU3I1YW54Y

I know I am tone-deaf but I'm pretty sure that these are completely different songs :D

SunOverHStreet
04-16-2011, 07:40 PM
Are you telling me that this song:
...is the same song as this(?)...

Absolutely... Just different arrangement, as I said.

Juan Carlos Nadal
04-16-2011, 08:15 PM
Absolutely... Just different arrangement, as I said.


Hmmm... I'm starting to question my sanity. :D Can someone double check it for me? :D

Farfiman
04-17-2011, 04:25 AM
Hmmm... I'm starting to question my sanity. :D Can someone double check it for me? :D

hmmm the bands look the same :eek::confused:

EDIT: ahhh... it is the same band.

worldbasketball
04-17-2011, 05:07 AM
The official music video of the British entry by Blue called "I Can"

This is where the four Blue members all get wet while exotic girls are dancing strangely with British flags LOL

http://www.youtube.com/user/officialblueworld#p/a/u/1/hPuDbaOBDsc

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The BBC also broadcast today a one-hour promotional film "Your Country Needs Blue"

bilimiyao420
04-17-2011, 05:12 AM
Can anyone explain what is Russia doing on Eurovision? I always thought it's from Asia and NOT Europe...

worldbasketball
04-17-2011, 06:39 AM
Can anyone explain what is Russia doing on Eurovision? I always thought it's from Asia and NOT Europe...

Russia is a Eurasian country meaning with territories in Europe and Asia. Russia is historically a European country with a history of imperial conquests in Asia.

Here is the actual division of European Russia and Asian Russia. On Europe's border, from north to south: Nenetsia Autonomous Okrug, Komi Republic, Perm Krai, Bashkortostan Republic and Orenburg Oblast; On Asia's border, from north to south: Yamalia Autonomous Okrug, Khantia-Mansia Autonomous Okrug, Sverdlovsk Oblast and Chelyabinsk Oblast.

The technical term for such countries is transcontinental countries.

Another good example is Turkey which has territories in Asia and in Europe. But here the situation is the exact opposite. Turkey is historically an Asian country with a history of imperial conquests in Europe. Bosphorus separates the two: Europe is west of the Bosphorus and Asia east of it.

The city of Istanbul is a transcontinental city with parts in Asia and Europe.

Cyprus is geographically part of the Asian Middle East, and its land mass an extension of what we call Asia Minor. But it is legally part of Europe.

Perhaps more strangely, Kazakhstan is a Eurasian transcontinental state with with West Kazakhstan and Atyrau provinces extending on either side of the Ural River! It legally keeps a right of applying to European Broadcasting Union and to Eurovision Song Contest, but has not done so.

Also under question are how European Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are, since all these are geographically in Asia as Europe starts north of the Caucasus mountains and all these are south of the Caucasus.

In any case, Russia, Turkey and Cyprus and Israel as well Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan are all part of European Broadcasting Union, that's why they take part in Eurovision really.

There is the special case of Israel, which although being an Asian state is included in Eurovision for practical reasons, as if it ever applies to Asian competitions, it will be boycotted by a big number of Arab and Islamic Asian states.

There is also the special case of Morocco, an African state that actually took part in Eurovision. Lebanon, an Asian state decided initially to take part, then it withdrew for political reasons just a few weeks before the contest.

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BTW, welcome to Interbasket. You now realise by now that you can get more than basketball in Interbasket. You ask a question or throw in a notion, and sooner than you know, your knowledge widens... LOL

Farfiman
04-17-2011, 06:48 AM
Russia is a Eurasian country meaning with territories in Europe and Asia. Russia is historically a European country with a history of imperial conquests in Asia.

Here is the actual division of European Russia and Asian Russia. On Europe's border, from north to south: Nenetsia Autonomous Okrug, Komi Republic, Perm Krai, Bashkortostan Republic and Orenburg Oblast; On Asia's border, from north to south: Yamalia Autonomous Okrug, Khantia-Mansia Autonomous Okrug, Sverdlovsk Oblast and Chelyabinsk Oblast.

The technical term for such countries is transcontinental countries.

Another good example is Turkey which has territories in Asia and in Europe. But here the situation is the exact opposite. Turkey is historically an Asian country with a history of imperial conquests in Europe.

The city of Istanbul is a transcontinental city with parts in Asia and Europe.

Cyprus is geographically part of the Asian Middle East, in what we call Asia Minor, but is legally part of Europe.

Perhaps more strangely, Kazakhstan is a Eurasian transcontinental state with Kazakhstan is also a transcontinental country by this definition, with West Kazakhstan and Atyrau provinces extending on either side of the Ural River!

Also under question are how European Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are, since all these are geographically in Asia as Europe starts north of the Caucasus mountains and all these are south of the Caucasus.

In any case, Russia, Turkey and Cyprus and Israel as well Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan are all part of European Broadcasting Union, that;s why they take part in Eurovision really.

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BTW, welcome to Interbasket. You now realise by now that you can get more than basketball in Interbasket. You ask a question or throw in a notion, and sooner than you know, your knowledge widens... LOL

Wow... someone has lots of time on their hands !
Although it does have some connection to basketball and a different thread where it is was asked why is Maccabi in the EL?

worldbasketball
04-17-2011, 06:52 AM
Well, it is related to Eurovision in many ways LOL. But we learn new things on the way LOL

I can see Russia and Turkey taking part in the future in Asian music competitions as well, without relinquishing the European competitions.

Hopefully, this Eurovision thread will not degenerate into what is Asian and what is European... I'd rather discuss songs than plunge into acrimonious never-ending give and take on how European or Asian some nations are... LOL

worldbasketball
04-17-2011, 07:07 AM
By the way, here is the Moroccan entry to Eurovision. That was in 1980

Samira Bensaid in "Bitaqat Hob"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nWi9QO47Q4

Here live during the competition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3e26zZSEws

Here is the Lebanese entry that wasn't as Lebanon withdrew:

Aline Lahoud - "Quand tout s'enfuit"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uor6JVHUWjs

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Interestingly Israel presented a Hebrew / Arabic / English song to Eurovision. It was by duo Noa (Achinoam Nini) and Mira Awad "There Must Be Another Way (Einaich)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JDsWqBzJ5o

Live during the competition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eej83c7AcVM

Noa and Mira had cooperated in other projects including much earlier in 2002 in a cover version of the Beatles song "We Can Work It Out"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFwRyaTvnYg

Juan Carlos Nadal
04-17-2011, 12:59 PM
hmmm the bands look the same :eek::confused:

EDIT: ahhh... it is the same band.

The band is the same. The question is whether the two songs are the same (but slightly altered in relation to each other) or not.

worldbasketball
04-18-2011, 04:28 AM
Your Country Needs Blue - the BBC promotional program for British entry Blue "I Can"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KsSDKenq4 (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHuMkwRFw9w (part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyVPwALf0o (part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SurZQVIW48 (part 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ4Fnqc1Tbs (part 5 final)

The official video:
http://www.youtube.com/user/officialblueworld#p/a/u/1/hPuDbaOBDsc

The single will be released on May 1, 2011

worldbasketball
04-22-2011, 05:47 AM
Eric Saade (the Lebanese-Swedish singer) has released the music video of his song "Popular" -- which is the official Swedish entry to Eurovision 2011 -- but it beats me why he opted for a very dark light for the video - we know it is in a club with very dim lights, but c'mon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VybgIkjycU

worldbasketball
04-24-2011, 06:26 AM
About Haba Haba
All i can say is ...OH MY GOD

Stella Mwangi has released the official music video of "Haba Haba", the Norwegian entry to Eurovision and it has this great entry bit as a tribute to basketball. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKlVdWCgu_A

Enjoy

Billy Bounce
05-01-2011, 05:41 AM
Eric Saade (the Lebanese-Swedish singer) has released the music video of his song "Popular" -- which is the official Swedish entry to Eurovision 2011 -- but it beats me why he opted for a very dark light for the video - we know it is in a club with very dim lights, but c'mon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VybgIkjycU

He could switch from a dim club atmosphere to a shiny beach one:

WTXVB12J3jc

worldbasketball
05-01-2011, 06:50 AM
He could switch from a dim club atmosphere to a shiny beach one:

WTXVB12J3jc

I thoroughly enjoyed this delightful video. They nail it. Initially I didn't like the song at all. But now after seeing the reaction of so many people, I am beginning to warm up to the song. They even parody the breaking of the glass... LOL

So Eric Saade is getting 12 points I gather? LOL

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Also I noticed in the notes that there were parodies for Paradise Oskar, Stella Mwangi and Dana International songs, but I couldn't locate those.

Is there any way you could post them here?

worldbasketball
05-06-2011, 09:06 AM
The first rehearsals have begun and all the artists are getting their chance at the stage.

Don't forget the first semi-final is on May 10, the second semi-final on May 12.

The finals will be on Saturday May 14. Only UK, France, Germany, Italy and Spain go straight to the final without passing through the semi-finals.

Here just a sample "A Friend in London" rehearsal for ""A New Tomorrow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ynA3xnrng

And Jedward song "Lipstick"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AWTdND3qA

Eric Saade's "Popular"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcLSmmPxAvI

These are just samples, but it gives an idea of how the stage will look like.

With such arrangements, the performances are becoming like a music video with all that is going on in the screen behind.

Farfiman
05-06-2011, 09:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AWTdND3qA[/url]



Although it was quite fun to watch Jedward on X-factor ( and simons reaction everytime they survived a vote) I could'nt beleive they were sent to the Eurovision.. they really are a joke and this song is just... AWFUL

vsMfa5y2S0o

worldbasketball
05-06-2011, 01:49 PM
Some more first rehearsals

Yiorkas Loukas & Stero Mike "Watch My Dance"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUulNvTj_V0

Dino Merlin "Love in Rewind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ardkHWm8jsU

Vlatko Ilievski - Rusinka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2AGF1sSics

Dana International "Ding Dong"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtJTuCwLxjw

Musiqq "Angel in Disguise"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp-Z_bljwJ0

Stella Mwengi "Haba Haba"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFdUa6ySsLc

Paradise Oskar "Da Da Dam"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x1lqnk0u34

Glenn Vella "One Life"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9UArQvDMY

Senit "Stand By"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSZeQUYXd0

Ell/Niki "Running Scared

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDeRQMhW-7E

Katie Wolf "What About My Dreams"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw1y_ls33eU

YŁksek Sadakat "Live it up"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJi0bN0ej_s

Nina "Ceroban"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DLvp_3etY0

worldbasketball
05-06-2011, 02:23 PM
Although it was quite fun to watch Jedward on X-factor ( and simons reaction everytime they survived a vote) I could'nt beleive they were sent to the Eurovision.. they really are a joke and this song is just... AWFUL

vsMfa5y2S0o

Thanks for this. He is making good points you know about the process of selection past and present.

This shows also how countries have particularities about how they select what they will represent them.

worldbasketball
05-07-2011, 11:19 AM
For those who don't have the time, a summary

Recap of the first rehearsals of the 1st Semifinal (19 songs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjw44pxUoSw

Recap of the first rehearsals of the 2nd Semifinal (19 songs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx2CF6YfpcU

What are missing are the 5 songs of the 5 big nations that go straight in to the final for a total of 43 songs

worldbasketball
05-08-2011, 07:29 AM
Here are the first rehearsals of the Big Five that go straight to the finals automatically qualified.

Blue - "I Can"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2SrqacmT0o

Amaury Vassilli - "Sognu"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35CRyMf73oo

Lena - "Taken by a Stranger"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-guiwEXNYzs

Raphael Gualazzi - "Madness of Love"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jLS7gu0Ac4

LucŪa Pťrez - "Que me quiten lo bailao"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBsyHZe8Krk

The finals will have these five plus 20 others from the 2 semi-finals for a total of 25 songs. 10 songs will come from each semi-final out of 19 candidates each. So half of the countries will drop without making it to the final show.

Also after first rehearsals are over, the second more elaborate rehearsals are in full progress after correcting some technical hitches.

Tomorrow Monday there are dress rehearsals. First semi-final is on May 10 and the second on May 12. The final is on May 14

worldbasketball
05-08-2011, 09:02 PM
A lot of things were said about how dismal the UK Blue first rehearsal was. The second rehearsal is a little bit better but still, it needs more harmony and something is lacking. I think it is too late to fix it and they have to rely on the great set on the theatre while they are performing, but I heard much better performances from other countries. Here's the Blue 2nd rehearsal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d942RM3ljMA

JGX
05-08-2011, 10:10 PM
Should I go?

http://www.culturaltourismdc.org/things-do-see/calendar/event/eurovision-song-contest-d%C3%BCsseldorf-2011

worldbasketball
05-09-2011, 12:19 AM
Should I go?

http://www.culturaltourismdc.org/things-do-see/calendar/event/eurovision-song-contest-d%C3%BCsseldorf-2011

You should if you have the time. It is a great show to watch plus interesting screen arrangements this year different for each song. It is 3 hours long so you have to spend all your afternoon and part of the evening there...

I can tell you it is a great experience. These are songs you have never heard and in most probability never will again. There are genres that are used mostly in Eurovision, they are Eurovision style, but hardly in the charts.

Check also the thrilling (though biased) voting session after the songs are over. Yes, it will be a great lesson in geography as well LOL

Plus, you will visit tens of countries through the introductions and the languages and all.

I'll watch it direct from the Eurovision website, but watching it on a wide screen with other people and probably reacting positively or negatively to this or that song will make it worthwhile.

Plus the event is free. No charge.

Of course it will help if you are familiar with some of the singers or the songs. These are readily available through Eurovision site

http://www.eurovision.tv

and through Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_2011

BTW most of the songs are in English so no problem getting the lyrics... For the foreign language songs, just appreciate the beauty and novelty of the languages and the traditions. Yes this is a diverse world where other languages are used in songs. This should not put you off.

Tell us your favorites...

worldbasketball
05-09-2011, 01:13 AM
The odds now are in favour of France (practically with all bookies)

Here is a page on various companies and their bets

http://www.eurovision-betting.com/odds.html

These put close favorites after France as Estonia, UK, Hungary, Sweden and Azerbaijan

Gytaz
05-10-2011, 09:18 PM
The qualifiers from the first semi-final are:

Serbia
Lithuania
Greece
Azerbaijan
Georgia
Switzerland
Hungary
Finland
Russia
Iceland

I have to say that this time I like the results (which is rare). I liked Switzerland, Georgia, Finland, Iceland and Hungary.

Mindozas
05-10-2011, 09:39 PM
I'm quite shocked to see Lithuania advancing to final. Not that rivals were strong, but I just didn't believe in our song and performance...

Also strange that Turkey failed to qualify, usualy strong contender even for top places wasn't selected

worldbasketball
05-10-2011, 10:18 PM
We should also mention those who were disqualified. They are:

Poland
Norway
Albania
Armenia
Turkey
Malta
San Marino
Croatia
Portugal

From my favorite list, two were disqualified and I am so sad they weren't given a chance to be heard in the final by tens of millions:

Norway's "Haba Haba" by Stella Mwange (originally Kenyan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzY5cTNdKQY

... and San Marino's "Stand By" by Senit (originally Eritrean)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4EPYt6Mj9o

Also a shame Turkey wasn't chosen. They were really good.

How can Europe reject such great tunes.

From the qualifiers (there are 10), the ones I like are Finland (absolutely the most), then the countries Hungary, Azerbaijan, Greece, Russia, Switzerland.

Carick235
05-10-2011, 11:51 PM
The qualifiers from the first semi-final are:

Serbia
Lithuania
Greece
Azerbaijan
Georgia
Switzerland
Hungary
Finland
Russia
Iceland

I have to say that this time I like the results (which is rare). I liked Switzerland, Georgia, Finland, Iceland and Hungary.

From this that qualified for final, i dont like only Russian song, its just usual garbage, while Albania for example had great song. Also almost all countries singing in english, Eurovision should be about diversity of cultures, and only Greece and Serbia sing in their languages from this countries that passed to final.

worldbasketball
05-11-2011, 12:06 AM
Also almost all countries singing in english, Eurovision should be about diversity of cultures, and only Greece and Serbia sing in their languages from this countries that passed to final.

I absolutely agree. Singing at least part of their songs in their own language should be the norm. This was the case when Eurovision was really good. Now it is so much anglicized.

worldbasketball
05-11-2011, 12:09 AM
I don't know about you, but I loved the introductions when we visit various German locations through the eyes of people from the participating countries and we learn so much about what they do in Germany.

The German scenes are absolutely breathtaking and encourage you to visit this great country, and the characters we are introduced to so interesting and approachable.

The stage is very well prepared and the background works mostly very enjoyable.

Gytaz
05-11-2011, 09:10 AM
I have to agree, Germany did a great job organizing the event.

Although I have some doubts about the sound quality: I mean, it looked like some singers really can't sing, especially in the beginning of the show, so I wonder whether this was really the case, or were there some technical problems.

Billy Bounce
05-11-2011, 11:35 AM
I have to agree, Germany did a great job organizing the event.

Although I have some doubts about the sound quality: I mean, it looked like some singers really can't sing, especially in the beginning of the show, so I wonder whether this was really the case, or were there some technical problems.

The sound quality was OK, it's just some of the singers just couldn't hit the right notes

aQRt8tySAdg :eek:

Farfiman
05-11-2011, 06:22 PM
I'm very happy Norways HABA HABA didn't make it through.
Although the "haba haba part" is more or less ok...the rest of the song is really bad and she can't really sing that well.

As far as San-Marino... It's good atmosphere music but not special and memorable enough i guess for anyone to remember to vote for it.

Turkey: wild Show... but the song is just not for the eurovision.
But nice to see a different side of Turkey than all the political stuff thats always in the news.

Farfiman
05-11-2011, 06:41 PM
The odds now are in favour of France (practically with all bookies)

Here is a page on various companies and their bets

http://www.eurovision-betting.com/odds.html

These put close favorites after France as Estonia, UK, Hungary, Sweden and Azerbaijan

Did anybody compare the betting odds to qualify on the 1st semi to the actual results?

- I just saved the odds for the 2nd semi and we will see on thursday-

Billy Bounce
05-12-2011, 08:22 PM
The only interesting thing so far was basketball related pre-song clip with Muli Katsurin & Alba Berlin :p

My new faves : Slovenia & Estonia ( both were surprisingly good for this year Eurovision )

Bosnian "Mirza Teletovic" with rusinka, vodka & rakia was good in a clip, but live performance sucked big time.

Gytaz
05-12-2011, 08:27 PM
I actually liked quite a lot of songs in the second semi-final: Slovakia, Moldova (still remember them from the last time they participated), Bulgaria, Romania, Estonia (what a catchy chorus!), Latvia and Denmark.

If I had to vote, I'd probably vote for Estonia.

Billy Bounce
05-12-2011, 09:44 PM
I actually liked quite a lot of songs in the second semi-final: Slovakia, Moldova (still remember them from the last time they participated), Bulgaria, Romania, Estonia (what a catchy chorus!), Latvia and Denmark.

If I had to vote, I'd probably vote for Estonia.

Ha, you guessed more or less all those who qualified with the exception of Bulgaria . Bulgurian song was pretty solid , but the singer kinda exaggerated chasing the camera : she scared the hell out of TV voters :D

worldbasketball
05-13-2011, 06:25 AM
From the second semi-final on May 12, 2011

Qualified to the finals (10 countries)

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Austria
Ukraine
Moldova
Sweden
Slovenia
Romania
Estonia
Denmark
Ireland

Not qualified (9 countries)

Netherlands
Belgium
Slovakia
Cyprus
Bulgaria
Macedonia
Israel
Belarus
Latvia

worldbasketball
05-13-2011, 06:30 AM
This is the order of apprearance on stage for the 25 finalists on Saturday May 14

1. Finland
2. Bosnia and Herzegovina
3. Denmark
4. Lithuania
5. Hungary
6. Ireland
7. Sweden
8. Estonia
9. Greece
10. Russia
11. France
12. Italy
13. Switzerland
14. United Kingdom
15. Moldova
16. Germany
17. Romania
18. Austria
19. Azerbaijan
20. Slovenia
21. Iceland
22. Spain
23. Ukraine
24. Serbia
25. Georgia

However all 43 countries will vote for the songs, not the 25 mentioned.

Farfiman
05-13-2011, 06:36 AM
From the second semi-final on May 12, 2011

Qualified to the finals (10 countries)

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Austria
Ukraine
Moldova
Sweden
Slovenia
Romania
Estonia
Denmark
Ireland

Not qualified (9 countries)

Netherlands
Belgium
Slovakia
Cyprus
Bulgaria
Macedonia
Israel
Belarus
Latvia


I cannot believe that Jedward made it through.... seems like a continuation of the X-Factor joke.. :)

Mindozas
05-13-2011, 09:42 AM
I cannot believe that Jedward made it through.... seems like a continuation of the X-Factor joke.. :)

According to bookies, they became 2nd favorite after France currently and even goin' strong to be the 1st, odds are dropping heavily on them :cool:

Farfiman
05-13-2011, 05:38 PM
According to bookies, they became 2nd favorite after France currently and even goin' strong to be the 1st, odds are dropping heavily on them :cool:

If thats true then there is something fishy going on. During X-factor it was said that there was some kind of "vote factory" working for them...although i don't see how it is possible on a continent level without spending LOTS of money

Mindozas
05-13-2011, 05:46 PM
If thats true then there is something fishy going on. During X-factor it was said that there was some kind of "vote factory" working for them...although i don't see how it is possible on a continent level without spending LOTS of money

I actually don't know nothing about them or their participation in X-Factor, didn't like the song too much either, but I must admit that it has smth catchy, show on stage was ok too and all that stays in mind for sometime, that's exactly what eurovision is all about - you must get strong 1st impression. Moreover there are no strong rival this year, so song finds it's audience, the same like f.e. Estonian entry, also not so ordinary song, but among the favorites to win it all

elaj
05-13-2011, 07:13 PM
http://www.shrani.si/f/1c/y6/42GO8mGT/1305218586181.jpg

worldbasketball
05-15-2011, 12:05 AM
So JGX, did you actually go to the German event to watch the Eurovision? We are just curious? Did you enjoy it? How well your favorites did overall?

worldbasketball
05-15-2011, 12:09 AM
So its Azerbaijan this year winning it with, I thought, a very deserving song "Running Scared". It might not have been one of the crowd pleasing favourites, but a great duet and a good memorable song from Ell and Niki.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vk4HYUatv8 (music video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qimiNmQsSs (live performance in final)

Second were Italy, after a long absence from Eurovision with a very classy jazz tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJ-0Q6ZVUM (music video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYcB2hrI4-8 (live performance in final)

Third, one of the crowd favourites, Sweden (Eric Saade) with "Popular".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F76hd3HwNxQ (music video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22CJ57OLZLs (live performance in final)

Fourth is Ukraine with the "Angel" song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XrNvUiGVhg (music video)

Fifth, Danish song A Friend in London with my favourite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKbAjqAFgHE (music video)


1. Azerbaijan - 221 points
2. Italy - 189
3. Sweden - 185
4. Ukraine - 159
5. Denmark - 134
6. Bosnia & Herzegovina - 125
7. Greece - 120
8. Ireland - 119
9. Georgia - 110
10. Germany - 110
11. United Kingdom - 100
12. Moldova - 97
13. Slovenia - 96
14. Serbia - 85
15. France - 82
16. Russia - 77
17. Romania - 77
18. Austria - 64
19. Lithuania - 63
20. Iceland - 61
21. Finland - 57
22. Hungary - 53
23. Spain - 50
24. Estonia - 44
25. Switzerland - 19

After the contest, it was also revealed how the countries performed in the semi-finals. At that stage the favorites were:
Semi final 1: 1. Greece 2. Azerbaijan 3. Finland 4. Iceland 5. Lithuania
Semi final 2: 1. Sweden 2. Denmark 3. Slovenia 4. Romania 5. Bosnia and Herzegovina

The least votes were Poland and Portugal from day 1 and Netherland and Cyprus from day 2. In the actual final day least vote was for Switzerland.

worldbasketball
05-15-2011, 02:40 AM
The biggest disappointments of ranked high entries were Hungary (19th), UK (11th) and mostly France (15th). These were total surprises. They were said to be very high and France was set to win. But he ruined the song by singing so many times instances seemingly off key it put off voters, thus his low showing.

Azerbaijan and Sweden were expected to do well anyhow, but the biggest surprise in terms of huge votes was Italy (2nd). nobody expected such high rankings to Italy.

About the actual voting, in recent years, they are only keeping us in suspense of 8-10-12 points and pass the rest so quickly. This is putting me at least off... Actually it would be more exciting to allow us to hear votes starting with 6 points, 7 points and then 8, 10 and 12... 6 and 7 are important points but as things stand now, we don't even see those except for a brief second or two...

Farfiman
05-15-2011, 06:34 AM
About the actual voting, in recent years, they are only keeping us in suspense of 8-10-12 points and pass the rest so quickly. This is putting me at least off... Actually it would be more exciting to allow us to hear votes starting with 6 points, 7 points and then 8, 10 and 12... 6 and 7 are important points but as things stand now, we don't even see those except for a brief second or two...

The voting is the best part but the show is just way too long and its the only part you can shorten.

Even 5's could be important- if every country gives 5 points to the same song.. that song could win!

worldbasketball
05-15-2011, 06:49 AM
What I also liked was that the voting fluctuated this year and very well to the end still there were a number of hopefuls.

Of course Azerbaijan and Sweden were the two most consistent vote getters with all countries and Sweden seemed to win the first to thirds of the vote all the way. But by country 35-36, it tilted in favour of Azerbaijan. Ukraine was clearly popular very early on.

Then there was this huge upsurge for the Italian song out of no where as they were way down at the beginning and right at the very last vote of the last jury, it passed Sweden as well to come at #2.

Mindozas
05-15-2011, 12:50 PM
The biggest disappointments of ranked high entries were Hungary (19th), UK (11th) and mostly France (15th). These were total surprises. They were said to be very high and France was set to win. But he ruined the song by singing so many times instances seemingly off key it put off voters, thus his low showing.

For me the biggest surprise was Estonians failure. They were among favorites from the start till the finish, song was good, performance/show was good, but I could never ever belive that they'll finish 2nd from the bottom. Huuuuge surprise!!!
Overall, this contest brought some very unexpected and strange results, probably the weirdest since I'm watching it.
The good thing is that Azerbaijan won, couldn't understand at all if Sweden would take it such lame song...

Gytaz
05-15-2011, 03:09 PM
I agree, this year's Swedish entry was (IMO) their worst ever, yet it did really well. I was glad that Latvians (country which voted last) gave 12 points to Italy and 0 to Sweden, taking the 2nd place from the Swedes this way. :p

But in general, this was a good Eurvision. I was surprised that I liked so many songs this year, probably half of those which made it to the final were listenable to me.

Azerbaijani song was good, but not my favorite. I didn't vote, but if I had, I probably would have voted for the UK. It's not like me to vote for a boy band, but I really liked the song.

worldbasketball
05-15-2011, 04:52 PM
I agree, this year's Swedish entry was (IMO) their worst ever, yet it did really well. I was glad that Latvians (country which voted last) gave 12 points to Italy and 0 to Sweden, taking the 2nd place from the Swedes this way. :p

Actually the Swedish song might not have been great, but they relied more on stage presence. You must agree that the show they put was spotless and one of the best.

Of course Italy thoroughly deserved the second position. But somehow if I ask you one month from now, you will remember absolutely everything about Sweden's Eric Saade but won't remember Italy's singer's name even, and you will say yeh that great jazz tune, what was the name, who was the singer? Eric Saade's song remains memorable and is a parody in itself and people love it so much they make videos about it as one put this Israeli parody in this discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXVB12J3jc

It was no surprise Israel gave twelve points and even mentioned him in person when giving the points. The TV announcers give the points and the country. But the Israeli speaker Ofer Nachshon mentioned Eric Saade by name


But in general, this was a good Eurvision. I was surprised that I liked so many songs this year, probably half of those which made it to the final were listenable to me.

I agree. There were many real good performances



Azerbaijani song was good, but not my favorite. I didn't vote, but if I had, I probably would have voted for the UK. It's not like me to vote for a boy band, but I really liked the song.

Azerbaijan was not my favorite either, but again they were real charming people and put up a real good stage show. There's something to say about the chemistry between these two when they sing. I couldn't be more happier for them. Bravo. Although they ruined the final performance after the announcement of the results as they were overwhelmed and couldn't get over their excitement... But still no worry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qimiNmQsSs

I agree with you about the UK as well. I think they did really well for me. I was just enchanted by the looks, and the organizers had prepared a great show on the screen behind. It enhanced their performance and stage presence even more. But not for the voters apparently as they came 11th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJEtE4kJvE0

For me, my favourite was Spain actually that I liked immediately as a catchy tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnph1u6EbmU

I was saddened it came 23rd out of 25 songs. I was surprised. I'm still singing to it as we speak.

I also loved Finland's song immensely. Again he was shunned as Paradise Oskar came (horrors, horrors) 21st out of 25 with "Da Da Dam". For me, it touched me immensely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFVq4VughrM

In a live final, the whole stadium was singing with him Da Da Dam...

dxjayrock2008
05-16-2011, 10:59 AM
Follow the link.--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrpN7OTh2sc&feature=fvst

ip84
05-23-2011, 10:41 AM
LOL :p

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4072448,00.html

Israel won't be able to take part at the Eurovision 2012 because it will be on Shavuot holiday evening....
Unlike the thing that was with Maccabi, it is by the Israeli law.

As non-religious and at the same time not a fan of the contest, I don't really care...
I just hope that it won't start another 50+ pages topic with people saying that we blackmail the Eurovision. :rolleyes:

Farfiman
05-24-2011, 11:10 AM
LOL :p

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4072448,00.html

Israel won't be able to take part at the Eurovision 2012 because it will be on Shavuot holiday evening....
Unlike the thing that was with Maccabi, it is by the Israeli law.

As non-religious and at the same time not a fan of the contest, I don't really care...
I just hope that it won't start another 50+ pages topic with people saying that we blackmail the Eurovision. :rolleyes:


Hope not (50 pages...) but Israel (IBA) did tell them about the problem ( in time) - chance are slim that it will help. Also it's not the 1st time Israel will not be in the eurovision due to holidays so no big deal.
If we were one of the "holy 5 " ( the organizing countries) then they would have choosen a different date.

Billy Bounce
05-24-2011, 01:09 PM
Hope not (50 pages...) but Israel (IBA) did tell them about the problem ( in time) - chance are slim that it will help. Also it's not the 1st time Israel will not be in the eurovision due to holidays so no big deal.
If we were one of the "holy 5 " ( the organizing countries) then they would have choosen a different date.

Actually it's a nice excuse of not appearing in this joke competition.

BTW, i found a solid scientific paper (http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/9/2/1.html) studying voting blocks in ESC

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/9/2/1/fig1.gif

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/9/2/1/fig2.gif

Quite surprising that blocks existed even before 90s, although "France-UK" or "Israel-Germany-Sweden" are kinda hard to explain.

Farfiman
05-25-2011, 11:54 AM
Actually it's a nice excuse of not appearing in this joke competition.

BTW, i found a solid scientific paper (http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/9/2/1.html) studying voting blocks in ESC

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/9/2/1/fig1.gif

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/9/2/1/fig2.gif

Quite surprising that blocks existed even before 90s, although "France-UK" or "Israel-Germany-Sweden" are kinda hard to explain.

I actually read a great part of it and it's very interesting, although it would be nice to see an update including data of the last 6 years and also due to the change of vote system in the last few years.

worldbasketball
05-25-2011, 01:06 PM
I like the namings: The Warsaw Pact, the Viking Empire, or the Pyrenean Axis as if it was the Axis of Evil LOL