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chester25
09-16-2011, 02:00 PM
we're simply outplayed by the taller Chinese. our guards were intimated to the hilt. crisp passing non-existent. well, we have a convenient scapegoat right? no marcio and chris! :p nah...

rocketstar47
09-16-2011, 02:00 PM
It was confirmed that Marcio Lassiter and Christopher Lutz still could not play the game against China. This news also was also from CCTV. Sorry for the previous news if it caused any confusion.

Congratz for CHINA !!!

apiSigbinz
09-16-2011, 03:47 PM
tomorrow is a no-brainer's game.... :D:D

ros
09-16-2011, 04:11 PM
We lose no excuses.

zoman114
09-16-2011, 04:12 PM
DAY 2 OF THE 2011 FIBA-ASIA MEN'S TOURNEY


SYRIA over INDONESIA, 74-61
SYR 74 - Gorges 24, Daks 14, Jlilati 10, Deeb 7, Al-Saman 7, Lubus 5, Nalbandian 3, Osfira 2, Kasaballi 2, Al-Khatib 0, Abboud 0, Al-Hamowi 0
INA 61 - Wuysang 11, Gunawan 11, Prawiro 9, Sitepu 7, Indrawan 6, Situmorang 6, Poedjakesuma 3, Prihantono 3, Dewanto 3, Haryoko 2
QS: 17-13, 34-33, 54-45, 74-61
- Moments after getting the all-clear from FIBA-Asia, Brazilian-Syrian Eder Araujo Gorges racked up a double-double to lead the Syrians to win #1 at the expense of the Indons.
- Gorges scored 24 points and grabbed 11 rebounds in an emphatic debut in the 2011 FIBA-Asia. Samir Daks backed him up, hitting 4 triples on his way to 14 markers.
- Indonesia stuck close for most of the game until Syria opened the last period with a 14-6 run that put themselves out of reach. Both Mario Wuysang and Rony Gunawan had 11 points to pace the Indons.



TAIWAN over UZBEKISTAN, 81-71
TPE 81 - Chang 15, Mao 13, Chen HA 11, Lu 11, Lee 8, Wu 7, Tseng 6, Chien 4, Lin 4, Ho 2, Chen SN 0, Su 0
UZB 71 - Zinovev 17, Belokurov 12, Kozlov 11, Denisov 11, Juginisov 11, Nuraliev 9, Shatrov 0, Khabibullin 0, Yahin 0, Pereverzev 0
QS: 24-14, 45-36, 67-50, 81-71
- The Taiwanese were hot off the gates and were never really threatened in this one. BYU-Hawaii alum Jet Chang led the way with 15 points as they gained momentum towards the last Group B game, which is against the severely depleted Qatar squad.
- Chang was ably supported by Mao Chia-En, who finished with 13 markers, and the hot shooting of Chen Hsin-An and Lu Cheng-Ju. Both finished with 11 points and combined for all 5 of the team's triples.
- Versatile forward Gennadiy Zinonev led the Uzbek assault, scoring 17 points and hitting 3 of his 6 attempts from downtown. They face the powerhouse Iranians next.



JAPAN over JORDAN, 92-87
JPN 92 - Kawamura 23, Kashiwagi 14, Takeuchi J 13, Takeuchi K 12, Matsui 7, Sakurai 6, Hirose 6, Shonaka 6, Takeda 3, Amino 2, Ishizaki 0, Ota 0
JOR 87 - Wright 30, Abbaas 15, Zaghab 11, Al-Sous 9, Abbas 7, Abuquora 5, Soobzokov 5, Abu Ruqayah 3, Daghlas 2, Hussein 0
QS: 19-17, 36-29, 64-46, 92-87
- After Japan scored the opening basket, Jordan went on a 13-0 tear, but the Japs countered with their own 17-4 run that ended the period in their favor. They used another mighty 15-0 blast bridging the 2nd and 3rd periods to erect their biggest lead, 51-29 early in the 2nd half. They just cruised from thereon, despite the Jordanians mounting a rally in the fourth to make the score more respectable.
- Japan hit 13 of their 29 shots from beyond the arc, with Takuya Kamawamura hitting 4 and Shinsuke Kashiwagi making 3. Joji Takeuchi was a beast under the basket, scoring 13 points and grabbing 19 rebounds.
- Jordan had to play the entire 2nd half without star playmaker Sam Dahglas, who went down late in the 2nd period with an injury. His status is uncertain for tomorrow's game against Indonesia.



SOUTH KOREA over LEBANON, 80-62
KOR 80 - Yang DG 20, Stevenson 18, Kim JS 16, Oh 13, Kang 6, Lee 5, Kim JK 2, Kim YH 0, Cho 0
LIB 62 - Reda 20, Akl 15, Hoskin 12, Bawji 10, Abdelnour 3, Stephan 2, Martinez 0, Kanaan 0, Tabet 0, Ibrahim 0
QS: 17-16, 33-29, 53-44, 80-62
- Lebanon put up stiff opposition, but faltered in the 2nd half as Korea romped away with win #2 in Group A.
- Ghaleb Reda led the Lebanese with 20 points, 3 rebounds and 3 steals while yesterday's hero, Jean Abdelnour only had 3 markers to show for in 20 minutes of play. Naturalized big man Sam Hoskin played better this time around with 12 points and 9 boards, but he's still far from the form Lebanon needs for them to make a deep run in the tourney.
- Korea proved, once again, to be the steadier team. Yang Dong-Geun and Jarod Stevenson accounted for 6 of the team's 7 treys. Kim Joo-Sung was solid underneath, scoring 16 points and collecting 10 rebounds.



IRAN 40 over QATAR 4
IRI 40 - Afagh 10, Davarpanah 7, Davoudi 6, Kardoust 5, Davari 4, Haddadi 3, Atashi 2, Kazemi 2, Kamrani 1, Sahakian 0, Bahrami 0
QAT 4 - Matalkeh 3, Salem 1, Saad 0, Adam 0, Saeed 0
QS: 40-4
- Qatar stayed true to their words, defaulting again by way of all their active players fouling out in the first stanza.
- Iran wasn't too good from the line, however, hitting only 18 of 28 freebies. They still managed to hit 4 of 9 triples, though, thanks to Hamed Afagh, Aren Davoudi and Javad Davari. The Uzbeks are up next for Iran, and they should coast to a sweep of Group B thereafter.
- Qatar continued their strange way of protesting as they failed to establish the eligibility of their 5 stars. They should continue handing out the wins against the Taiwanese tomorrow.



MALAYSIA over INDIA, 71-67
MAS 71 - Ooi 20, Batumalai 14, Kuek 9, Chee 8, Loh 6, Ng 5, Kwaan 5, Lau 2, Wee 2, Kuppusamy 0
IND 67 - Singh J 25, Singh At 13, Koroth 11, Rai 6, Singh T 6, Bharama 2, Singh Al 2, Bhriguvanshi 1, Grewal 1, Singh Y 0
QS: 15-13, 42-26, 54-50, 71-67
- Given how India almost pulled the rug from under Lebanon, this seems to be the upset of the day, and maybe the biggest win for Malaysia in ages. The Malaysians started strong, leading 15-4 before India made a torrid 12-0 run to take the lead early in the 2nd period. It was a nip-tuck affair until Malaysia unleashed a 13-0 blast to lead 39-25 late in the 1st half. They managed to sustain it until India had a good 3rd quarter to cut down the deficit. Malaysia scored well in the late game to claim win #1 and a probable seat in the 2nd round.
- The Malaysians hit 10 threes in this game, thanks largely to Ban Sin Ooi's 4 trifectas. Guga Batumalai had a great game, too, hitting 14 points, getting 7 rebounds and dishing out 6 assists.
- Two guys finished with double-doubles for India -- Jagdeep Singh with 25 points and 11 rebounds, and Amjyot Singh with 13 markers and 12 boards.



CHINA over PHILIPPINES, 75-60
CHN 75 - Yi J 20, Wang 16, Sun 15, Zhu 13, Zhang Z 3, Liu 2, Zhang B 2, Yi L 2, Ding 1, Yu 1, Su 0, Xirelijiang 0
PHL 60 - Douthit 17, Tiu 12, Williams 6, Casio 5, Alapag 5, Aguilar 4, Baracael 4, De Ocampo 3, Barroca 2, Taulava 2,
QS: 22-13, 43-21, 55-40, 75-60
- The Pinoys had a respectable start before China unloaded a 9-1 run to close the 1st quarter. Yi Jianlian kept on hitting mid-rangers to keep the Philippines outside of striking distance the rest of the way. The officiating elicited some harsh reactions, chiefly from Philippine NT coach Rajko Toroman, who got whistled for a T. With this win, China effectively sweeps Group D, unless the Emirates miraculously pull one over them tomorrow.
- Yi Jianlian was plainly unstoppable here, as he finished with 20 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals. China's starting unit was just too big and too good here, even as their reserves struggled to find any good rhythm.
- Team Philippines outscored China in the 2nd half, but that was practically one whole half of garbage time already. They clearly missed Chris Lutz and Marcio Lassiter here, but should bounce back against Bahrain tomorrow.



UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 91 over BAHRAIN, 91-53
UAE 91 - Ahmad 17, Al-Zaabi 16, Al-Hattawi 13, Abdalla 13, Salem 9, Ahmed 7, Al-Braiki 6, Banihammad 6, Al-Sari 4, Al-Ali 0
BRN 53 - Isa 15, Al-Tawash 11, Malallah 11, Malabes 9, Sarhan 3, Akber 2, Mubarak 2, Ali 0, Khamis 0, Mahri 0, Ashoor 0
QS: 16-17, 37-27, 70-46, 91-53
- Bahrain started well, leading 9-2 early, but UAE dominated them afterwards. With this win, the Emirates are virtually assured of a slot in the 2nd round, unless Bahrain comes up with a stunner against the Filipinos tomorrow.
- It was a balanced attack for UAE, as 8 players finished with 6 or more points. Ibrahim Ahmad led all scorers with 17 points, thanks to his 3 triples. Ali Al-Hattawi had a double-double -- 13 markers and 10 rebounds, providing the muscle underneath for UAE.
- Bader Malabes cooled down in this game after being hot against China yesterday. It was Maitham Isa who led Bahrain with 15 points on the strength of 4 triples. They face a tall order against the Pinoys tomorrow.

AK-GNALAT
09-16-2011, 05:00 PM
...

BTW: Even your Azkals team did well after your German coach did a heck of a job. But what did your media do? Blame him for all of his good work...smh

OFF-TOPIC:

Just a little nitpick :D The Philippine media are somewhat justified in blaming Weiss for his ineptness but for all the wrong reasons. And he didn't do a heck of a job :)

asapa11
09-16-2011, 05:34 PM
i think overall playing china was a good experience for the team. at least now we know where we are matching up to Asia's best. Maybe now we could make the right adjustments. It's been a while since we played China the last time was 2002 and we were crushed by the Yao Ming led team.. and before that we faced them in 1998 where we held our ground and out rebounded them. most importantly it is a wake up call for the Team to work harder and for some fans who think we are all that.

In my opinion with Lutz and Lassiter playing for the Philippines they could have definitely help our team as they are fast, good shooters and solid defenders. We could've had more options on the 2 and 3 positions. With them an upset would have been more possible or maybe the margin of our loss wouldn't be as big. but of course I'm not blaming our loss because of their absence just that it would've been a more exciting game maybe.

I am also happy to see that China had to use their star players to top score and not their bench or role players against the Philippines. This could indicate the respect they had for our team(their bench scored only a total of 9 points) ..overall, it's a good experience.. I wish the Philippines would encounter China more whenever the Philippines joins competitions.(i.e. Asian Games, FIBA Championships, Stankovic Cups etc.) hopefully they encounter China in the Finals..

mohsena2631
09-16-2011, 10:27 PM
a funny story about this tournament.

you can see the name of MIRADILOV Batir (UZB) here as a referee here
http://www.fibaasia.net/UserImages/GPDF012011915193948.PDF

BUT Mr. Batir Miradilov is actually their head coach, Head Coach of Uzbekistan NT !!! he is not a referee (he has the licence of course)

Uzbekistan doesn't have any referee here and it's against the rule and since their team was close to disqualification , Mr. Miradilov left his team and joined the referees !! they have another person as HC but It's just a formality, the real head coach is still Batir Miradilov ! but he can't sit on the bench now. :D

today he was busy with SYR-INA game (9:00 am) and then his team had to play with Taiwan (11:00 am) and this guy had no time to talk with his team before the game !

so where is Mr. Roshan Ganiev ? the last time I saw him was 2010 Asian Games semifinal against China and that famous 3sec violation call. :D

mavrick_h
09-16-2011, 11:01 PM
a funny story about this tournament.

you can see the name of MIRADILOV Batir (UZB) here as a referee here
http://www.fibaasia.net/UserImages/GPDF012011915193948.PDF

BUT Mr. Batir Miradilov is actually their head coach, Head Coach of Uzbekistan NT !!! he is not a referee (he has the licence of course)

Uzbekistan doesn't have any referee here and it's against the rule and since their team was close to disqualification , Mr. Miradilov left his team and joined the referees !! they have another person as HC but It's just a formality, the real head coach is still Batir Miradilov ! but he can't sit on the bench now. :D

today he was busy with SYR-INA game (9:00 am) and then his team had to play with Taiwan (11:00 am) and this guy had no time to talk with his team before the game !

so where is Mr. Roshan Ganiev ? the last time I saw him was 2010 Asian Games semifinal against China and that famous 3sec violation call. :D

haha nice one :D

Bluechipkid
09-17-2011, 01:32 AM
i think overall playing china was a good experience for the team. at least now we know where we are matching up to Asia's best. Maybe now we could make the right adjustments. It's been a while since we played China the last time was 2002 and we were crushed by the Yao Ming led team.. and before that we faced them in 1998 where we held our ground and out rebounded them. most importantly it is a wake up call for the Team to work harder and for some fans who think we are all that.

In my opinion with Lutz and Lassiter playing for the Philippines they could have definitely help our team as they are fast, good shooters and solid defenders. We could've had more options on the 2 and 3 positions. With them an upset would have been more possible or maybe the margin of our loss wouldn't be as big. but of course I'm not blaming our loss because of their absence just that it would've been a more exciting game maybe.

I am also happy to see that China had to use their star players to top score and not their bench or role players against the Philippines. This could indicate the respect they had for our team(their bench scored only a total of 9 points) ..overall, it's a good experience.. I wish the Philippines would encounter China more whenever the Philippines joins competitions.(i.e. Asian Games, FIBA Championships, Stankovic Cups etc.) hopefully they encounter China in the Finals..

Great assessment on the Phil vs China game outcome. Losing 15 points is not a bad result for Smart Gilas. The Philippines needs to hit its shots from outside to open up China's interior for Douthit, Williams, Taulava and Aguilar to operate within. This is a big improvement for the team. Anyways, it is still a long way to go and its only the preliminaries. Hopefully, these two teams will meet in the Finals.

Bobbyd
09-17-2011, 04:05 AM
The Philippines needs to hit its shots from outside to open up China's interior for Douthit, Williams, Taulava and Aguilar to operate within.

Yes the Philippines would do a lot better if they could hit some outside shots. The problem is they have such a hard time getting off a decent shot. They are just too small to shoot over the much bigger Chinese guards. This Philippine team will always struggle in their half-court offense against China because of the size difference.

donno
09-17-2011, 05:11 AM
The Philippines needs to hit its shots from outside to open up China's interior for Douthit, Williams, Taulava and Aguilar to operate within.

Yes the Philippines would do a lot better if they could hit some outside shots. The problem is they have such a hard time getting off a decent shot. They are just too small to shoot over the much bigger Chinese guards. This Philippine team will always struggle in their half-court offense against China because of the size difference.

that's we miss the likes of an Allan Caidic, a quick-trigger shooter. unfortunately, no one from our present generation of basketball players is as close as him with regards to quick-shooting those threes.

notGenius
09-17-2011, 09:41 AM
HAHAHA ... got played by that newgay....

mr mojado... a lot of Filipinos are thinking that McMenemy was doing a better job than Weiss for Azkals...
and we won't agree with you that "German coach did a heck of a job". :eek:

It's the Filipino Manager/Sponsor that is doing a "heck of a job" in recruiting those Filipino-Foreigners to be in our NT's fold!
FIFA has no problem with our Fil-Fors, unlike this FIBA-China este Asia.

No disrespect though to Mr Weiss' accomplishment and contributions to Philippine Football.

gazara
09-17-2011, 10:57 AM
as our Team if we Reached the Semis it will be a Great and big thing for Our Youngsters ,for Now ,Today easy game against Malysia ,in the next Round ,we will loose to Iran but We will over Uzbekistan and Chinese Taipei so we will finish 3rd after Iran and Korea ,as Third we Have to Play with the Second of Group B maybe ,Japan-Phillipines-Jordan ...all of these 3 are beatable if we Won the QF it will be huge for Us and reaching then the Semis then it will be like a new Start !

acklium
09-17-2011, 11:50 AM
as our team if we reached the semis it will be a great and big thing for our youngsters ,for now ,today easy game against malysia ,in the next round ,we will loose to iran but we will over uzbekistan and chinese taipei so we will finish 3rd after iran and korea ,as third we have to play with the second of group b maybe ,japan-phillipines-jordan ...all of these 3 are beatable if we won the qf it will be huge for us and reaching then the semis then it will be like a new start !

bring it on!

gazara
09-17-2011, 04:04 PM
One Of Our Big Hope !! Our Leader Ghaleb Rida (192-SG) !!
(Maybe This Year he will Sign in CBA !! )

Game 1 : 15 PTS Against India
Game 2: 20 PTS Against Korea
Game 3: Didn t Play (REST)

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/298090_247258598642738_114642201904379_605819_5311 44813_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/318827_247267751975156_114642201904379_605842_3911 46062_n.jpg

apiSigbinz
09-17-2011, 04:13 PM
as our Team if we Reached the Semis it will be a Great and big thing for Our Youngsters ,for Now ,Today easy game against Malysia ,in the next Round ,we will loose to Iran but We will over Uzbekistan and Chinese Taipei so we will finish 3rd after Iran and Korea ,as Third we Have to Play with the Second of Group B maybe ,Japan-Phillipines-Jordan ...all of these 3 are beatable if we Won the QF it will be huge for Us and reaching then the Semis then it will be like a new Start !

the way i see your post it seems you're pretty sure you can beat CT huh?! :D really huh?!... not so fast man.. :D:D

Bernard
09-17-2011, 05:12 PM
One Of Our Big Hope !! Our Leader Ghaleb Rida (192-SG) !!
(Maybe This Year he will Sign in CBA !! )

Game 1 : 15 PTS Against India
Game 2: 20 PTS Against Korea
Game 3: Didn t Play (REST)


Think that's y they played "okay" and there was a margin of around 30pts...
The way I c it, ghaleb is more of a negative point than an addition...he is so selfish not in some moments...but every time he has the ball...this guy will never b disciplined :o although he's a great player and fighter...

Long live Lebanon!!(except all the politicians!!)

Walken
09-17-2011, 07:56 PM
FIBA ASIA president Sheikh Saud Bin Ali is about to resign...Sheikh Ali had also resigned yesterday from the Qatari Basketball Federation's presidency
https://www.facebook.com/JordanNBT/posts/10150296068421601
:rolleyes:

gazara
09-17-2011, 10:14 PM
we can win Every game in this Tournament except against Two Teams: Iran and China ,we can t match them we need a miracle to win against these 2 ,for the others i think Korea Come second after these 2 ,and still we match them for 2 Q then we lost !

our game on monday is very important ,we have to win it !

Mr. Basketball
09-17-2011, 11:44 PM
wonder what strategy qatar will use against india. they might as well play it out, since they probably could beat India with 6 or 7 players.

b3lowzro
09-18-2011, 06:24 AM
well Qatar has been training in the Philippines with 7 guys before the tournament.

Cryotek
09-18-2011, 06:55 AM
The Philippines needs to hit its shots from outside to open up China's interior for Douthit, Williams, Taulava and Aguilar to operate within.

Yes the Philippines would do a lot better if they could hit some outside shots. The problem is they have such a hard time getting off a decent shot. They are just too small to shoot over the much bigger Chinese guards. This Philippine team will always struggle in their half-court offense against China because of the size difference.

Obviously...this was already the main problem ever since, I don't know why they never learned...Korea and Japan can withstand China because they have great shooters in their team!!:rolleyes:

Geminoykoy
09-18-2011, 07:04 AM
yay philippines still have a hope to win second place if were lucky enough! atleast we have a hope :) still our chances are better than other teams. Good job team Gilas!

macan77
09-18-2011, 08:49 AM
we can win Every game in this Tournament except against Two Teams: Iran and China ,we can t match them we need a miracle to win against these 2 ,for the others i think Korea Come second after these 2 ,and still we match them for 2 Q then we lost !

our game on monday is very important ,we have to win it !

yeah, i can see that you can really beat all other team aside from iran and china..as a matter of fact, you just beat india and malaysia..and by the way, it was hard luck that you lost to Korea..also, didn't i was preaching all along that with this team of yours, you have a slim chance of winning against korea..anyway, good luck to our team..i hope we meet in the quarters..that's if our teams reach the quarters..;)

mavrick_h
09-18-2011, 09:17 AM
yeah, i can see that you can really beat all other team aside from iran and china..as a matter of fact, you just beat india and malaysia..and by the way, it was hard luck that you lost to Korea..also, didn't i was preaching all along that with this team of yours, you have a slim chance of winning against korea..anyway, good luck to our team..i hope we meet in the quarters..that's if our teams reach the quarters..;)

man you can beat us Japan Jordan CT as well so please stop quoting everyone saying otherwise :)

macan77
09-18-2011, 09:22 AM
man you can beat us Japan Jordan CT as well so please stop quoting everyone saying otherwise :)

can't understand what you mean..i am just stating facts as a basketball fan..the ball is round and you can never be sure if you can win the game..that's what i meant when i answered your countryman gaara..on a bad day, any team can beat us or shame us..

analyzed
09-18-2011, 09:31 AM
Our chances of advancing to the semis and medalling are slim with Lassiter and lutz out. loosing to either Jordan and Japan in the second round will land us a knock out probably against Korea in the quarters. This means a match up at the small forward between 6'6 naturalized American Moon, vs Baracel a 6'3 natural power forward and at times a 5'11 undersized Chris Tiu ( With Lutz and lassiter out Tiu has been playing some SF) . This is simply giving to much up.
Beating Jordan and Japan that has prolific big wings in Wright and Animo (6'5) is also going to be a tall order without Lutz and Lassiter.

It hurts the Philippines offensively (playing undrsize gives us less good looks from the perimter) but worse it hurts us defensivly with our alternatives Baracel being to slow while Tiu being to small.

While we still have a fighting chance without them it will take nothing less than miracle to medal without the two. Let's hope they are allowed to play to give us a fair chance

zoman114
09-18-2011, 09:42 AM
2011 FIBA-Asia Men's Tourney Day 3 Stuff:


JAPAN over SYRIA, 77-55
JPN 77 - Takeuchi K 19, Kawamura 17, Hirose 12, Takeuchi J 12, Matsui 4, Ota 4, Ishizaki 3, Sakurai 2, Amino 2, Shonaka 2, Takeda 0
SYR 55 - Deeb 15, Daks 13, Al-Hamowi 8, Lubus 6, Al-Khatib 4, Jlilati 3, Nalbandian 3, Gorges 3, Al-Saman 0, Osfira 0, Abboud 0, Kasaballi 0
QS: 17-15, 34-24, 57-42, 77-55
- This time around Eder Gorges was checked by the Japanese and severely limited. It also didn't help that Samir Daks was momentarily injured in the 1st quarter as Japan made a crippling 17-0 run that turned a 12-15 deficit to a 29-15 Japanese advantage. Japan coasted from that point and quashed all hopes of a Syrian upset.
- Kosuke Takeuchi led Japan with a double-double, scoring 19 points and getting 11 rebounds. Takuya Kawamura supported him with 17 points while Kenta Hirose and Joji Takeuchi each scored 12. Japan sweeps Group C and probably faces UAE on Monday.
- The Syrians held the momentum early on until that big Nippon run. With Gorges unable to establish himself down low, Syria found the going real rough. Ioannis Deeb led them with 15 points while Daks hit 3 triples on his way to 13 markers.

PHILIPPINES over BAHRAIN, 113-71
PHL 113 - Aguilar 21, Douthit 18, Casio 15, Taulava 13, De Ocampo 13, Baracael 11, Tiu 10, Barroca 8, Alapag 2, Williams 2
BRN 71 - Malabes 15, Sarhan 13, Mahri 11, Ali 8, Isa 7, Khamis 7, Akber 6, Mubarak 2, Malallah 2, Ashoor 0
QS: 30-18, 51-40, 86-47, 113-71
- The Philippines started strong and never really let up in demolishing the Bahrainis. A 35-7 3rd quarter really put things beyond doubt for coach Rajko Toroman's wards, thanks mainly to reserve big man Japeth Aguilar's energy and athleticism. It was a nice bounce-back for the Pinoys barely 13 hours after losing to the Chinese.
- Aguilar played just 15 minutes, all in the 2nd half, off the bench, but he still managed to lead the Philippines in scoring and rebounding, scoring 21 points and getting 12 rebounds. Seven Filipinos finished in double-digit scoring to top the 100-point barrier. They move up to 2-1 and take on Jordan on Monday in the 2nd round of hostilities.
- Bahrain shot better from downtown, making 8 of their 24 attempts. Bader Malabes sizzled with 4 conversions while Mohamed Ali made 2. Bahrain drops to 0-3 and is relegated to the consolation round, where they'll probably face Indonesia.

SOUTH KOREA over INDIA, 84-53
KOR 84 - Kang 22, Stevenson 14, Cho 12, Kim JK 11, Lee 6, Kim YH 6, Oh 6, Kim JS 5, Yang DG 2, Park 0
IND 53 - Rai 11, Koroth 8, Singh Y 8, Singh At 6, Bhriguvanshi 6, Singh J 5, Bharama 2, Mishra 2, Grewal 2, Singh T 2, Singh Al 1
QS: 27-11, 46-28, 66-34, 84-53
- The Koreans didn't really waste any time here and led from start to finish. They hit 15 triples, doubled up on India's assists and forced three times as many turnovers to blow out the hapless Indians.
- Young center Kim Jong-Kyu played all 40 minutes, as Ha Seung-Jin remained rested while Kim Joo-Sung played only 10 minutes himself. The younger Kim delighted coach Hur Jae with a double-double, 11 points and 10 rebounds. Kang Byung-Hyun and Jarod Stevenson combined for 9 triples to lead the Korean barrage. They sweep Group A and have great momentum on the way to battling the Uzbeks in round 2 on Monday.
- Only Trideep Rai finished in double-figures for coach Ken Natt. A bright note, however, is how they outrebounded the Koreans, 51-44. They could build on that advantage for their remaining consolation round games, but their turnovers might be a big concern. They'll probably face the shorthanded Qataris on Monday.

TAIWAN over QATAR, 94-78
TPE 94 - Chang 35, Lee 15, Tseng 14, Lin 10, Wu 7, Mao 5, Chen HA 5, Lu 3, Chien 0, Su 0, Ho 0
QAT 78 - Salem 30, Saeed 19, Saad 18, Matalkeh 7, Adam 4
QS: 23-15, 50-40, 68-61, 94-78
- Two surprising things happened here: 1) Qatar actually played the whole game with just 5 players and 2) they stuck with the Taiwanese about three-fourths of the way. That is, until the Taiwanese outscored them 15-7 to start the final 10 minutes and effectively put a considerable distance between the squads.
- Jet Chang exploded with 35 points for coach Chou Jun-San. He also hit 6 treys and had 2 steals in an impressive show of force. Taiwan hit 14 triples in all and made up for getting grossly outrebounded by having significantly more assists and steals. Taiwan moves on the round 2 and should face the Lebanese next.
- Qatar managed to play well despite dressing just 5 cagers. Omar Salem had 30 points while EA Saeed and Abdulrahman Saad contributed 19 and 18 respectively. It was a sorry sight to see Khalid Adam go down injured in the fourth quarter because it left Qatar with just 4 men the rest of the way. Qatar bows out of contention and is relegated to the 13th-16th games, where they'll probably lock horns with the Indians on Monday.

IRAN over UZBEKISTAN, 132-38
IRI 132 - Kazemi 18, Haddadi 18, Kardoust 17, Afagh 16, Davarpanah 14, Davari 13, Bahrami 13, Sahakian 9, Kamrani 8, Sohrabnejad 3, Davoudi 2, Atashi 0
UZB 38 - Kozlov 12, Juginisov 7, Yahin 6, Pereverzev 5, Denisov 2, Kadirov 2, Zinonev 2, Belokurov 2, Shatrov 0, Nuraliev 0, Khabibullin 0, Timofev 0
QS: 38-14, 79-25, 107-34, 132-38
- When a team finishes a whole game with as many points as its opponent does in just one quarter, you know that team is in trouble. That's exactly what happened here, where Iran simply massacred the Uzbeks, almost finishing the match with a century-wide spread. The Iranians ran roughshod over their Middle Asian counterparts right from the opening tip and were just merciless all throughout.
- Arsalan Kazemi and Hamed Haddadi each had 18 points to pace the mighty Iranian war machine. Both also finished with twin digit rebounding at 14 and 11 respectively. Seven of coach Vaselin Matic's wards ended up breaching the double-digit barrier. Iran sweeps Group C and should square off against the Malaysians on Monday.
- The Uzbeks were just outclassed here, and were visibly frustrated and exasperated. Aleksandr Kozlov led them in this losing effort with 12 points while Aleksandr Yahin finished with 6 points and 10 boards. Despite this massacre, Uzbekistan advances to round 2 and should go up against the Koreans on Monday.

JORDAN over INDONESIA, 89-59
JOR 89 - Wright 18, Al-Sous 14, Abbaas 14, Abu Ruqayah 11, Hussein 10, Abbas 7, Soobzokov 6, Al-Khas 6, Abu Quora 2, Zaghab 1
INA 59 - Sitepu 15, Prihantono 12, Poedjakesuma 7, Chandra 7, Wuysang 7, Prawiro 5, Haryoko 2, Gunawan 2, Situmorang 2, Gerungan 0, Dewanto 0, Indrawan 0
QS: 22-16, 44-29, 65-44, 89-59
- Props to Indonesia for keeping things close in the 1st quarter. Jordan unleashed a 10-0 blast to start the 2nd period that just broke the game open and they coasted from there. The Jordanians pounded the boards, outrebounding the smaller Indons, 63-37, while also handing out more assists, 21-14. Sam Dahglas sat this one out after injuring his knee against Japan yesterday. His status is still unknown for Jordan's round 2 match with the Philippines on Monday.
- Rasheim Wright led Jordan with 18 points while Islam Abbaas controlled the shaded lane with 14 points and 10 rebounds. Jordan was clearly the more aggressive team by virtue of having significantly more free throw attempts -- 24 to just 6.
- Amin Prihantono made all his 12 points from downtown, but it took him 13 tries to do so. Christian Sitepu was solid down low with 15 markers, 6 boards and 3 blocks, but Jordan's quality was just too much. They have a good chance to bounce back in the consolation round against the Bahrainis on Monday.

CHINA over UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, 75-60
CHN 75 - Zhang B 15, Sun 13, Yi J 7, Yu 7, Liu 6, Zhang Z 6, Su 5, Xirelijiang 5, Ding 4, Yi L 4, Zhu 3,
UAE 60 - Al-Zaabi 21, Salem 13, Al-Hattawi 10, Ahmad 6, Abdalla 5, Al-Braiki 3, Ahmed 2, Al-Sari 0, Al-Ali 0, Banihammad 0
QS: 22-8, 40-32, 61-42, 75-60
- China saved their stars for most of the game, banking on second-stringers like Zhang Bo, Ding Jinhui and Zhang Zhaoxu to slug it out with the Emirates, who gave them a tighter-than-expected contest. Ultimately, though, China was just much much better. They started the game 12-0 and were never really threatened. Statistically, they were ahead of UAE in practically every category.
- Zhang Bo and Sun Yue combined for 7 of China's 10 triples in this one. This time they didn't have to lean on Yi Jianlian too much, though nobody outside of Zhang and Sun finished in twin digits. They sweep Group D and go on to round 2 against Syria on Monday.
- Rashed Al-Zaabi impressed with 21 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists, but he did commit 6 turnovers. UAE drops to 3rd in Group D and faces Japan to begin round 2.

LEBANON over MALAYSIA, 87-59
LIB 87 - Stephan 24, Tabet 20, Bawji 15, Ibrahim 12, Martinez 5, El Farkh 5, Bitar 4, Hoskin 2
MAS 59 - Kwaan 13, Ooi 7, Loh 7, Lau 6, Wee 5, Ng 5, Kuek 4, Chee 4, Kuppusamy 3, Batumalai 3, Soo 2, Chin 0
QS: 27-8, 43-27, 67-40, 87-59
- Coach Ghassan Sarkis chose to rest his top guns against Malaysia as only Sam Hoskin saw playing time from the usual starters. His second unit proved to be more than capable of handing the Malaysians yet another beating in Group A action. Lebanon led 27-8 after the 1st period and never looked back en route to the rout.
- Elie Stephan and Mohamad Ibrahim combined for 10 of Lebanon's 11 three-point conversions. Charles Tabet, meanwhile, dropped 20 markers and collared 16 boards as the Lebanese finish 2nd behind Korea in round 1. They'll face the Taiwanese to begin their round 2 matches.
- Malaysia will also advance to round 2, but with hardly any momentum. Yoong Jing Kwaan led the Malaysians with 13 points, but it was all for naught as nobody else finished in double-figures. Coach Goh Cheng-Huat has his work cut out for him as his team plays the Iranians next.

gazara
09-18-2011, 10:56 AM
LEBANON Vs CHINESE TAIPEH

Round 2 :
Monday 19 September 2011 ,6 AM Beirut Time !
Live on Jazeera Sport 2

a Hard Game ,we should win it and take Position 3 in the Group ...and that s will be the best way for Our NT !
Gd Luck for Both Teams and hope the Win for our NT !

Some Photos for Our Players and our NT :

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs059.snc6/168946_10150123264624994_715254993_7824179_1913690 _n.jpg

Ghaleb Reda

Big G ,We Need you !! Hopefully Ghaleb Will Lead us to a Win !!

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/291971_247258725309392_114642201904379_605820_1549 893062_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/308551_247258285309436_114642201904379_605808_1978 301073_n.jpg

Jean Abdel Nour

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/300166_10150356131142069_688862068_10275902_54687_ n.jpg

yvesjade
09-18-2011, 03:15 PM
Great news! Fiba has cleared Lassiter and Lutz to play. Letter already being transmitted to Fiba Asia and SBP. God bless Gilas.

-NoliEala

daniab
09-18-2011, 03:18 PM
So can we now enjoy a peaceful Fiba Asia without any accusations towards Lebanon and how scared they are from Philippines lol? :D

kaiziken_pinas
09-18-2011, 03:20 PM
So can we now enjoy a peaceful Fiba Asia without any accusations towards Lebanon and how scared they are from Philippines lol? :D

yes. I apologize in behalf of my compatriots dani. Most of them do not know who HAYOP really is. :)


Now I can sleep peacefully... untroubled.:D

YAHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I'm gonna skip classes just to watch the game!!!

mavrick_h
09-18-2011, 03:22 PM
So can we now enjoy a peaceful Fiba Asia without any accusations towards Lebanon and how scared they are from Philippines lol? :D

+ 1 of course not we are always afraid from most of the teams :D

alien space bats
09-18-2011, 03:34 PM
Great news! Fiba has cleared Lassiter and Lutz to play. Letter already being transmitted to Fiba Asia and SBP. God bless Gilas.

-NoliEala

sweet vindication for team pilipinas. now those forumers know that we're not just dreaming when we say that lutz and lassiter are natural-born filipinos. on to the 2nd round and may the best team win.

Pandesal
09-18-2011, 03:44 PM
So can we now enjoy a peaceful Fiba Asia without any accusations towards Lebanon and how scared they are from Philippines lol? :D

Me to, it's been very frantic in the forums with everyone blindly throwing conspiracy theories. I can finally watch games without excuses being thrown after a loss. :cool:

Apologies on behalf of my countrymen we seem to have an us against the world mentality. I'm hoping for an exciting round of basketball for all.

Khalid80
09-18-2011, 05:10 PM
Great news! Fiba has cleared Lassiter and Lutz to play. Letter already being transmitted to Fiba Asia and SBP. God bless Gilas.

-NoliEala

That's great news pare :)

Gud luk sa'yo and all the best :)!!

budz17
09-18-2011, 08:52 PM
great news:D:D.

was getting worried, I thought we would get screwed.

anyway, now we can lose:D:D without thinking what if.....

I hope this turns into a blessing in disguise.

-«miron»-
09-19-2011, 02:12 AM
go Gilas PILIPINAS!

behzadir
09-19-2011, 04:46 AM
The level of the championship has regressed big time compared to Tianjin 2009. The CT-Lebanon game is a clear indication. Sloppy basketball in clutch time.

Only teams who have progressed are S.Korea and Japan. Iran still haven't been tested and Pinoys haven't played up to the expectations.


Afro Basket was better than this in the group stages i guess.

Hope the games get better as we move on to the knockout stages.

Mojado
09-19-2011, 05:24 AM
The level of the championship has regressed big time compared to Tianjin 2009. The CT-Lebanon game is a clear indication. Sloppy basketball in clutch time.

Only teams who have progressed are S.Korea and Japan. Iran still haven't been tested and Pinoys haven't played up to the expectations.


Afro Basket was better than this in the group stages i guess.

Hope the games get better as we move on to the knockout stages.

I have to agree. Although India progressed a bit, there is on the other hand the "great depression" in the Middle East, where Jordan, Syria and even Lebanon lacking new talent at the moment, that is able to step right into the game and make up for the loss of veterans.
Japan toured Europe and has been pretty weak over here, and is still one of the better teams in WuHan.
China is still the powerhouse of basketball in Asia. Not because they are way better, but because the rest (except maybe Iran) really struggles these days to field a competitive team.
Iran has to beat China on their turf. This is a difficult task but its possible since their centers look stiff and creativity on the court is nowhere to be found. Its a chance, a small one, but there is one, for Iran to beat them.

My conclusion is also: No additional spot for the Olympics.
Africa is really progressing faster and has a huge talent pool.
Also: Let Afghanistan play! They would have been a great add to this games and way better than Uzbekistan...and they would have reached the second round thanks to Qatar! Imagine what a boost that would have been. Shame on FIBA Mid-Asia Section:mad:

AND: I am now more than happy that Lutz & Lassiter (No, its not a credit rating agency like Standard & Poor's) are now playing! I know that FIBA send them some instructions to provide the necessary papers in the first place. And I know the federation simply didn't care in the first place. Now that they finally got their documents together, it worked out for Pinas. Great news. System works in the end.
:D

crouchingtiger
09-19-2011, 05:47 AM
Where is gabe Norwood? Why is he not in the Phil team? :confused:

thayil
09-19-2011, 05:57 AM
Where is gabe Norwood? Why is he not in the Phil team? :confused:

Hello Sir! its been a while! :)

you can post your queries here

http://forums.interbasket.net/f32/sbp-long-term-national-team-pool-17044/p232.html

they will gladly answer your question.

Thanks

dose
09-19-2011, 10:07 AM
The level of the championship has regressed big time compared to Tianjin 2009. The CT-Lebanon game is a clear indication. Sloppy basketball in clutch time.

Only teams who have progressed are S.Korea and Japan. Iran still haven't been tested and Pinoys haven't played up to the expectations.


Afro Basket was better than this in the group stages i guess.

Hope the games get better as we move on to the knockout stages.

I think it is because most countries have no long term program. Look at Jordan and Lebanon, their teams are ageing. Only Iran and China have continuity on their basketball programs.

ryanzerous
09-19-2011, 10:17 AM
i asked gabe via twitter why he is not playing in our current NT and he said he wasn't invited but he'd love to play again.

b3lowzro
09-19-2011, 11:15 AM
any links for the Japan UAE game?

JAMSKIE
09-20-2011, 01:35 AM
as our Team if we Reached the Semis it will be a Great and big thing for Our Youngsters ,for Now ,Today easy game against Malysia ,in the next Round ,we will loose to Iran but We will over Uzbekistan and Chinese Taipei so we will finish 3rd after Iran and Korea ,as Third we Have to Play with the Second of Group B maybe ,Japan-Phillipines-Jordan ...all of these 3 are beatable if we Won the QF it will be huge for Us and reaching then the Semis then it will be like a new Start !

September 19, 2011, Taiwan beats Lebanon 70-68.

There's nothing wrong w/ being optimistic, but I believe being "realistic" is a lot better.

Lebanon is lucky that Qatar lost about 5 players, most of them key players due to eligibility issue. Qatar was reduced to only 6 players as 1 player got injured, and the team was already eliminated after losing all its games. Imagine if Qatar played w/ a complete line-up, it would have made it 2 d second round of the elimination & would be a very dangerous opponent 4 Lebanon. A loss to Iran, Taiwan & Qatar in the 2nd round of elims would kick Lebanon out of the quarterfinals. But w/ Qatar out of the running, Lebanon is on its way 2 the quarters as it will most likely beat Uzbekistan.

Lebanon, however will most likely be facing China in the quarters- a team w/c everybody wants avoid 2 meet in the quarters.

PRIVATE RYAN
09-20-2011, 01:43 AM
as our Team if we Reached the Semis it will be a Great and big thing for Our Youngsters ,for Now ,Today easy game against Malysia ,in the next Round ,we will loose to Iran but We will over Uzbekistan and Chinese Taipei so we will finish 3rd after Iran and Korea ,as Third we Have to Play with the Second of Group B maybe ,Japan-Phillipines-Jordan ...all of these 3 are beatable if we Won the QF it will be huge for Us and reaching then the Semis then it will be like a new Start !

Japan, Philippines, Jordan, beatable? I agree, but wasn't Taiwan also beatable in your assessment prior to the game yesterday?

JAMSKIE
09-20-2011, 01:49 AM
September 19, 2011, Taiwan beats Lebanon 70-68.

There's nothing wrong w/ being optimistic, but I believe being "realistic" is a lot better.

Lebanon is lucky that Qatar lost about 5 players, most of them key players due to eligibility issue. Qatar was reduced to only 6 players as 1 player got injured, and the team was already eliminated after losing all its games. Imagine if Qatar played w/ a complete line-up, it would have made it 2 d second round of the elimination & would be a very dangerous opponent 4 Lebanon. A loss to Iran, Taiwan & Qatar in the 2nd round of elims would kick Lebanon out of the quarterfinals. But w/ Qatar out of the running, Lebanon is on its way 2 the quarters as it will most likely beat Uzbekistan.

Lebanon, however will most likely be facing China in the quarters- a team w/c everybody wants avoid 2 meet in the quarters.

correction: its 60-58 Taiwan win vs. Lebanon

RoadtoLondon
09-20-2011, 01:55 AM
Japan, Philippines, Jordan, beatable? I agree, but wasn't Taiwan also beatable in your assessment prior to the game yesterday?

It's ok dude his just stating facts, every team is beatable this time...just ignore it...every team is capable of beating the other team...

durden_tyler
09-20-2011, 02:28 AM
It's ok dude his just stating facts, every team is beatable this time...just ignore it...every team is capable of beating the other team...

Including Iran and China? Those teams are in an entirely different level. Korea could challenge for that as well. Every one else pretty much falls under the "pretender" category. (Until of course proven otherwise)

JAMSKIE
09-20-2011, 02:34 AM
I dont like what certain Pinas-based posters do: They post their crap simply everywhere, even in sections that have nothing to do.

I used to be siding with the country, since I got to know some of your basketball fed-heads who are pretty cool guys, but lately, if there is something wrong with your NT and you feel mistreated, you are fingerpointing on anyone that is mentioned by your biased media...only a few fans do really think before posting here, others just copying stuff that is on twitter or elsewhere to tell the "truth" about the case. The reality is, that the two players were born in the U.S. and may got their Philipino-brith certificates and passports after turning 16 or even 18. They are Pinoy to me, but maybe not to FIBA if they enforce their rules the way they want. It's a typical case, that should have been discussed by FIBA prior to the games...not in between. That's a mess now.

But still, I cant stand this whole issue being posted all over this and other threads...as it repeats. Most posters post the same crap simultaneously in four different threads!:mad:

BTW: Even your Azkals team did well after your German coach did a heck of a job. But what did your media do? Blame him for all of his good work...smh

Maybe those pinoys posting ugly comments have a point after all.

I will tell U what happened yesterday. This is from a news article from a newspaper here in the Philippines:

WUHAN – Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas president Manny V. Pangilinan had to personally fight for Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz and urge FIBA Asia deputy secretary general Hagop Khajirian to let the two embattled Fil-Ams play against Jordan yesterday.

In a text to The STAR (newspaper), Pangilinan said there was a last-minute drama that took place before the Phl-Jordan game as the Fiba official continued to bar Lassiter and Lutz from playing.

“Hagop did not allow our two players to play before the game. I had to call FIBA Geneva to intervene and I had to barge into his office to get him (Hagop) to let go,” said Pangilinan.

“Fiba HQ had a letter of authorization, which I had to remind him. Politics, that’s even here.”

“They can lodge their protest up to Mecca. We have a letter from (Patrick) Baumann specifically authorizing Lassiter and Lutz to play. Even Hagop has a copy,” he added.

“We are all happy, especially SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan, that Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz were able to play starting in the second round. The national team will play now at full strength,” said SBP executive director Sonny Barrios in a statement.

“We appreciate FIBA (officials) Baumann and Benjamin Cohen for their prompt decision, made and forwarded to us even on a Sunday at their end,” Barrios added.

Meanwhile, FIBA Asia secretary general Dato Yeoh Choo Hock scored the Qataris on how they conducted themselves after five of their players were ruled ineligible.

It has now become obvious that the FIBA-Asia official who barred Lutz & lassiter form playing had some malicious motive. we have to remember, FIBA's rule regarding player eligibility has been existing since many years back. Those rules exist in the past editions of asian championships & yet there were some countries in tha past that paraded half-breed players that were alowed to play w/o any protest or questioning.

Didn't Lebanon paraded Lebanese-Americans Brian Feghali & Matt Frejie? what about Japan's Michael Dorsey, renamed Maikiru Takahashi who is supposed 2 be Japanese-American? What about South Korea's Kim Min Soo & Eric Sandrin who claim 2 be half-breed Koreans? What about Asi Taulava, Eric Menk & Gabe Norwood who are suposed 2 be half-breed Filipinos? Did these players undergo scrutiny & thorough investigation regarding their citizenships the same way Lassiter & Lutz went through? If we don't call it double-standard, then what is it?

I agree w/ u that these pinoy posters should not have made unfounded accusations & should not have made finger-pointing 4 the mess regarding Lassiter & Lutz' "floating" status in the tournament. I believe that these countrymen of mine should had been very careful & should be responsible in their comments & should not be making such coments based on mere suspicion or rumors.

But w/ the way things are going on in Wuhan, it seems these pinoy posters previous coments may had been right after all.

RoadtoLondon
09-20-2011, 02:39 AM
Including Iran and China? Those teams are in an entirely different level. Korea could challenge for that as well. Every one else pretty much falls under the "pretender" category. (Until of course proven otherwise)

yep including those two powerhouse...an upset in this tournament is no surprise...

Bold letters...I hope not.

JAMSKIE
09-20-2011, 02:42 AM
I dont like what certain Pinas-based posters do: They post their crap simply everywhere, even in sections that have nothing to do.

I used to be siding with the country, since I got to know some of your basketball fed-heads who are pretty cool guys, but lately, if there is something wrong with your NT and you feel mistreated, you are fingerpointing on anyone that is mentioned by your biased media...only a few fans do really think before posting here, others just copying stuff that is on twitter or elsewhere to tell the "truth" about the case. The reality is, that the two players were born in the U.S. and may got their Philipino-brith certificates and passports after turning 16 or even 18. They are Pinoy to me, but maybe not to FIBA if they enforce their rules the way they want. It's a typical case, that should have been discussed by FIBA prior to the games...not in between. That's a mess now.

But still, I cant stand this whole issue being posted all over this and other threads...as it repeats. Most posters post the same crap simultaneously in four different threads!:mad:

BTW: Even your Azkals team did well after your German coach did a heck of a job. But what did your media do? Blame him for all of his good work...smh

WUHAN – Finally allowed to play with its full lineup, Smart Gilas Pilipinas showed a lot of heart off and on the court, repulsing Jordan, 72-64, at the resumption of elimination round of the 26th FIBA Asia Championship here last night.

Cleared to play with the game already in progress, Fil-Am players Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz made up for lost time, helping Smart Gilas come from behind to nail the crucial win that kept the team right behind China and Japan in Group F in the second round of the elims.

FIBA World gave the two Fil-Am players the clearance to play as early as yesterday morning but FIBA Asia dilly-dallied to enforce the order from Zurich, Switzerland.

It took a decisive move from Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas president Manny V. Pangilinan to take the cudgels for the two players and for FIBA Asia deputy secretary general Hagop Khajirian to finally give the nod on Lassiter and Lutz.

Ironically, the Nationals’ morale had already been affected when Khajirian finally allowed Lassiter’s and Lutz’s names be included in the game board.

Smart Gilas was already trailing 5-17 when Lassiter checked in.

The Nationals even fell behind by 18, 29-11, before finding their rhythm then upending the Jordanians to improve their carry-over card to 2-1. Jordan slid to 1-2.

“I won a championship with Iran (in 2007) but I consider this the biggest win in my life considering how we won under difficult circumstance,” said Smart Gilas coach Rajko Toroman.

“It’s not normal, and only players with a big heart can win in our situation. Our players have to be commended,” added Toroman.

“We’re told in the morning that the two can play. Then 15 minutes before the game, they can’t play. Over two minutes into the game, again they can. Can you imagine that? It’s an abnormal situation and it’s tough for the players. All were affected,” Toroman also said.

Jordan coach Thomas Baldwin was as disgusted, saying: “a travesty was done in the sport of basketball today.”

“Certainly, I can’t blame coach Rajko and their organization. I would also fight for it if I were in the same situation. But I’m extremely disappointed by the sport of basketball today and of the organizers,” Baldwin said, obviously upset Lassiter and Lutz were allowed to play.

“MVP is MVP. He made it happen for the two to be able to play. He fought for it,” said Smart Gilas assistant coach Chot Reyes.

durden_tyler
09-20-2011, 02:43 AM
yep including those two powerhouse...an upset in this tournament is no surprise...

Bold letters...I hope not.

i guess you haven't seen much their games then.

RoadtoLondon
09-20-2011, 02:49 AM
i guess you haven't seen much their games then.

I watch almost all of there games... I think its the other way around...

acklium
09-20-2011, 02:55 AM
i guess you haven't seen much their games then.

comon dt he only has 7 post.

RoadtoLondon
09-20-2011, 03:18 AM
comon dt he only has 7 post.

its ok tol..that's his opinion if he think that CHI & IRI is not beatable then so be it...my point here is every team has a chance in upsetting one another...judging the outcome of this tournament is unfair unless it was proven....

my faith for the Phil NT is still strong even though some Filipinos have given up!;)

b3lowzro
09-20-2011, 03:47 AM
What Malaysia won against Uzbekistan by 5, thats bat shit crazy!!! SEA Games will be a big challenge for Sinag. If they can beat Taiwan maybe the have chance in the quarter finals.

zoman114
09-20-2011, 03:49 AM
DAY 4 OF THE 2011 FIBA-ASIA MEN'S TOURNEY


IRAN over MALAYSIA, 121-36
IRI 121 - Afagh 20, Haddadi 20, Kazemi 18, Kamrani 13, Sahakian 12, Bahrami 11, Kardoust 8, Sohrabnejad 6, Davarpanah 4, Davari 4, Atashi 3, Davoudi 2
MAS 36 - Batumalai 13, Chee 8, Ooi 6, Soo 4, Loh 3, Kwaan 2, Lau 0, Wee 0, Chin 0, Kuppusamy 0, Kuek 0
QS: 34-14, 56-23, 91-28, 121-36
- Iran started the game 16-5 five minutes in and never looked back. Malaysia was grossly outshot, outrebounded, and just outplayed in every sense possible. No chance.
- Hamed Afagh and Hamed Haddadi led Iran with 20 points apiece. Oshin Sahakian had a double-double with 12 points and 15 boards. Afagh was an all-around star in this one, hitting 4 triples and getting 5 steals. Iran hikes its 2nd round record to 3-0 (2 wins from round 1 and 1 from round 2) and now prepares for some tough days ahead against Lebanon and South Korea.
- Malaysia's Guga Batumalai had another good showing in the tragic loss. He hit 2 threes on the way to 13 points. Malaysia drops its 3rd game and now is in danger of missing the quarterfinals. They try to bounce back against the Uzbeks next.


TAIWAN over LEBANON, 60-58
TPE 60 - Chen HA 15, Wu 12, Lu 10, Chang 9, Chien 7, Tseng 5, Lee 2, Su 0, Lin 0
LIB 58 - Hoskin 19, Abdel Nour 12, Reda 9, Kanaan 6, Bawji 5, Stephan 3, Akl 2, Ibrahim 2, Martinez 0, Tabet 0
QS: 16-13, 30-30, 50-50, 60-58
- Tseng Wen-Ting hit a lay-up to bookend a 16-1 run late in the game and put Taiwan ahead for good. Lebanon's last-ditch rally fell short as they missed opportunities in alarming succession. It was a se-saw game all throughout, but the Taiwanese were just steadier down the stretch.
- Taiwan was led by Chen Hsin-An's 15 points, while Wu Tai-Hao effectively manned the middle with a dozen markers and 9 boards. Lu Cheng-Ju made up for the big fat egg laid by Lin Chih-Chieh by scoring 12 points and hitting 2 threes. Taiwan's round 2 record is now 2-1 and they battle South Korea next.
- Lebanon falters anew and now it has a 1-2 slate. A bright note, however, is that naturalized center Sam Hoskin produced his own double-double with 19 points and 11 rebounds. They take on the mighty Iranians next.


SOUTH KOREA over UZBEKISTAN, 106-57
KOR 106 - Stevenson 21, Cho 20, Yang HJ 16, Park 15, Kang 8, Oh 8, Lee 5, Kim JS 5, Kim JK 5, Yang DG 2, Kim YH 2
UZB 57 - Shatrov 11, Zinonev 10, Yahin 10, Juginisov 9, Denisov 4, Belokurov 4, Timofev 4, Kozlov 3, Nuraliev 2, Khabibullin 0, Pereverzev 0
QS: 30-11, 52-24, 74-37, 106-57
- The Koreans wasted no time destroying Uzbekistan in their first game of round 2. They more than doubled Uzbekistan's output in the 1st period and never relinquished the pressure, continuing to double up on the Uzbeks by the end of 3 quarters. As expected, Korea was much better in every category, especially in 3-pointers as they hit 19-of-37 (51%). Coach Hur Jae's boys also enjoyed a significant gap in free throw attempts, as they were awarded 27 compared to just 14 for Uzbekistan.
- Kor-Am Jarod Stevenson continued shooting the lights out in Wuhan. He shot 7-of-11 from the floor, including 5 treys. Cho Sung-Min continued to impress, as well, hitting 6 triples on his way to 20 points. Giant center Ha Seung-Jin was rested again, as coach Hur wishes to preserve him for the titanic tussle against Iran in two days. Korea ups their round 2 standing to 3-0. Taiwan should provide a good challenge for them next.
- The Uzbeks couldn't really get anything going here. They committed 22 turnovers and shot a measly 32% from the field. They were clearly outmatched and they have failed to gain momentum on their way against the Malaysians in their next game. The winner of that match still has some hope of entering the quarters.


PHILIPPINES over JORDAN, 72-64
PHL 72 - Douthit 19, Lassiter 14, Alapag 11, Tiu 9, Williams 6, Lutz 4, De Ocampo 4, Casio 3, Taulava 2, Barroca 0, Aguilar 0, Baracael 0
JOR 64 - Dahglas 18, Wright 16, Abbas 10, Abu Quora 7, Abbaas 6, Al-Sous 5, Zaghab 2, Soobzokov 0
QS: 11-20, 26-31, 47-47, 72-64
- Jordan played a tight 8-man rotation against the Pinoys to try and ensure a high level of play all throughout. It worked early on as they built a big 18-point lead, but the Pinoys, buoyed by the clearance of Fil-Ams Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz, clawed back in the 2nd canto to restore order. The Filipinos eventually took the lead in the 3rd stanza and it was a close match from then on. A fast start in the fourth gave the Philippines an 8-point bubble, but Jordan quickly closed the gap after a timeout. They fell short, however, as the Pinoys proved steadier on defense and on the line.
- Marcus Douthit bucked a mild sprain he got in the third period to finish strong and lead Team Pilipinas with 19 points and 15 rebounds. Lassiter backed him up well, hitting 4 treys to rack up 14 markers. PBA MVP Jimmy Alapag also played well, hitting 2 triples on the way to 11 points. The Pinoys have another big one next as they tackle the vastly improved Japanese.
- Sam Dahglas came back from a suspected knee injury to score 18 points and grab 6 boards. He orchestrated well, especially in the early goings. Rasheim Wright finished with 16, but had to take 24 shots to get there. He made only 6 field goals in all. A big casualty seems to be AJ Zaghab, who went down in the 4th clutching his knee. He never came back, and was not able to walk it off, so it looks pretty serious. Jordan's chances took a big hit here, and they have to upset China for any hopes of finishing better than fourth in round 2.
- Jordan signed the game under protest, but it will probably be for naught since it was the head office of FIBA that gave Lassiter and Lutz an "all clear." If anyone was at fault, it was FIBA-Asia organizers, who seemed to delay everything and make communicating these developments more difficult than it should've been.


JAPAN over UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, 101-61
JPN 101 - Amino 17, Takeuchi K 15, Ishizaki 13, Shonaka 11, Takeuchi J 11, Hirose 10, Matsui 6, Sakurai 5, Takeda 4, Kashiwagi 4, Kawamura 3, Ota 2
UAE 61 - Salem 14, Al-Zaabi 13, Al-Braiki 11, Abdalla 9, Al-Hattawi 7, Ahmed 3, Al-Sari 2, Banihammad 2
QS: 15-9, 56-26, 80-43, 101-61
- UAE seemed like it would give a great challenge after the first quarter, but then Japan stepped on the gas in the second period and sustained the pressure. All in all, the Emirates were outscored 41-17 in that quarter and it proved to be the big difference in the game. Japan had more rebounds and assists, but the amazing stat was they had 17 steals! They also continued their great sniping, hitting 11 triples in the game.
- Tomoo Amino came through for the Japanese with 17 points and 3 triples. The Takeuchi twins stood tall once again, combining for 26 points and 17 rebounds. Coach Tom Wisman's wards are still undefeated, but they stand to face a major test in the Filipinos next.
- UAE's quarterfinal chances took a big dive with this loss, and every game is now a must-win for them if they wish to move on. Khalifa Salem had 14 points to lead them while Rashed Al-Zaabi made 3 triples to finish with 13 markers.


CHINA over SYRIA, 90-71
CHN 90 - Yi J 19, Su 14, Wang 9, Zhang B 8, Sun 8, Zhu 7, Liu 6, Yi L 6, Xirelijiang 5, Ding 4, Yu 4, Zhang Z 0
SYR 71 -Deeb 16, Daks 12, Gorges 9, Al-Hamowi 9, Lubus 8, Al-Saman 8, Al-Khatib 7, Osfira 2, Jlilati 0, Nalbandian 0, Abboud 0
QS: 24-10, 47-28, 70-49, 90-71
- China's 24-10 start gave them enough cushion to just cruise all the way to the win. Coach Bob Donewald's wards exploited their size advantage to outscore Syria in the paint, 44-18, and they scored at will in transition, getting 16 fast break points to just 2 for Syria. Syria actually seemed poised to challenge China mid-1st quarter at 10-12, but the Chinese unloaded a 16-10 bomb briding the first two periods to silence all doubts.
- Yi Jianlian topscored again with 19 points on 7-of-10 FG shooting while also grabbing 6 rebounds. SU Wei backed him up down low with 14 markers on 5-of-7 shooting. Overall, the Chinese shot 57% from the field and 54% from beyond the arc. They remain unscathed in 4 games and are set to face the reeling Jordanians next.
- Syria's erstwhile big guns, Wael Jlilati, Vache Nalbandian and Eder Gorges all put up subpar performances here. Jlilati and Nalbandian both failed to score in about 12 minutes each. Gorges, meanwhile, shot just 3-of-13 and ended up with 9 markers and just 1 board. Ioannis Deeb and Samir Daks led Syria's losing effort with 16 and 12 respectively. They tumble to 0-3 in round 2, but have a chance against the Emirates next.


INDONESIA over BAHRAIN, 85-62
INA 85 - Poedjakesuma 32, Sitepu 18, Prawiro 11, Dewanto 6, Indrawan 7, Gunawan 5, Chandra 2, Prihantono 2, Gerungan 2, Wuysang 0, Situmorang 0
BRN 62 - Malabes 17, Al-Tawashi 11, Mubarak 10, Isa 8, Akber 6, Mahri 4, Sarhan 4, Malallah 2, Ali 0, Ashoor 0
QS: 12-17, 36-34, 53-45, 85-62
- Bahrain seemed poised to nail its first win after a 10-0 start, but Indonesia regrouped and outscored the Bahrainis 36-24 the rest of the first half. The Indons continued shooting well, particularly on second-chance points, where they had the advantage 18-3. They also forced Bahrain to commit 23 turnovers and scored 24 off of those errors. A 32-17 fourth period settled the final spread for the SEABA bridesmaids.
- Andi Poedjakesuma had one of the most prolific offensive performances of the tourney with 32 points. He also grabbed 8 rebounds and converted 6 of 11 triple tries. Christian Sitepu and Ponsianus Indrawan effectively patrolled the interior, pairing up for 25 points and 21 boards. Mario Wuysang failed to put up any points, but he did well as the playmaker with 11 assists. The Indons finally got a win and can get another one in the battle for 13th place against India.
- Bader Malabes continues to be Bahrain's most consistent scorer in Wuhan. He hit 3 triples to finish with 17 points on top of 6 rebounds and 4 dimes. Rahman Mubarak was also good down low with 10 markers and 8 boards. Bahrain finishes the competition winless, but one better than Qatar, who chose to forfeit all remaining matches.

acklium
09-20-2011, 03:56 AM
actually pessimist doesn't have a room here :D:D

Buran
09-20-2011, 04:01 AM
Looks like FIBA Asia and the Wuhan 2011 official websites are down again, they are probably overloaded with traffic and didn't have the foresight to increase the bandwidth...
Anyway, in my opinion the websites for previous championships were much nicer in terms of detail, stats etc...

thayil
09-20-2011, 04:04 AM
DAY 4 OF THE 2011 FIBA-ASIA MEN'S TOURNEY


IRAN over MALAYSIA, 121-36
IRI 121 - Afagh 20, Haddadi 20, Kazemi 18, Kamrani 13, Sahakian 12, Bahrami 11, Kardoust 8, Sohrabnejad 6, Davarpanah 4, Davari 4, Atashi 3, Davoudi 2
MAS 36 - Batumalai 13, Chee 8, Ooi 6, Soo 4, Loh 3, Kwaan 2, Lau 0, Wee 0, Chin 0, Kuppusamy 0, Kuek 0
QS: 34-14, 56-23, 91-28, 121-36
- Iran started the game 16-5 five minutes in and never looked back. Malaysia was grossly outshot, outrebounded, and just outplayed in every sense possible. No chance.
- Hamed Afagh and Hamed Haddadi led Iran with 20 points apiece. Oshin Sahakian had a double-double with 12 points and 15 boards. Afagh was an all-around star in this one, hitting 4 triples and getting 5 steals. Iran hikes its 2nd round record to 3-0 (2 wins from round 1 and 1 from round 2) and now prepares for some tough days ahead against Lebanon and South Korea.
- Malaysia's Guga Batumalai had another good showing in the tragic loss. He hit 2 threes on the way to 13 points. Malaysia drops its 3rd game and now is in danger of missing the quarterfinals. They try to bounce back against the Uzbeks next.


TAIWAN over LEBANON, 60-58
TPE 60 - Chen HA 15, Wu 12, Lu 10, Chang 9, Chien 7, Tseng 5, Lee 2, Su 0, Lin 0
LIB 58 - Hoskin 19, Abdel Nour 12, Reda 9, Kanaan 6, Bawji 5, Stephan 3, Akl 2, Ibrahim 2, Martinez 0, Tabet 0
QS: 16-13, 30-30, 50-50, 60-58
- Tseng Wen-Ting hit a lay-up to bookend a 16-1 run late in the game and put Taiwan ahead for good. Lebanon's last-ditch rally fell short as they missed opportunities in alarming succession. It was a se-saw game all throughout, but the Taiwanese were just steadier down the stretch.
- Taiwan was led by Chen Hsin-An's 15 points, while Wu Tai-Hao effectively manned the middle with a dozen markers and 9 boards. Lu Cheng-Ju made up for the big fat egg laid by Lin Chih-Chieh by scoring 12 points and hitting 2 threes. Taiwan's round 2 record is now 2-1 and they battle South Korea next.
- Lebanon falters anew and now it has a 1-2 slate. A bright note, however, is that naturalized center Sam Hoskin produced his own double-double with 19 points and 11 rebounds. They take on the mighty Iranians next.


SOUTH KOREA over UZBEKISTAN, 106-57
KOR 106 - Stevenson 21, Cho 20, Yang HJ 16, Park 15, Kang 8, Oh 8, Lee 5, Kim JS 5, Kim JK 5, Yang DG 2, Kim YH 2
UZB 57 - Shatrov 11, Zinonev 10, Yahin 10, Juginisov 9, Denisov 4, Belokurov 4, Timofev 4, Kozlov 3, Nuraliev 2, Khabibullin 0, Pereverzev 0
QS: 30-11, 52-24, 74-37, 106-57
- The Koreans wasted no time destroying Uzbekistan in their first game of round 2. They more than doubled Uzbekistan's output in the 1st period and never relinquished the pressure, continuing to double up on the Uzbeks by the end of 3 quarters. As expected, Korea was much better in every category, especially in 3-pointers as they hit 19-of-37 (51%). Coach Hur Jae's boys also enjoyed a significant gap in free throw attempts, as they were awarded 27 compared to just 14 for Uzbekistan.
- Kor-Am Jarod Stevenson continued shooting the lights out in Wuhan. He shot 7-of-11 from the floor, including 5 treys. Cho Sung-Min continued to impress, as well, hitting 6 triples on his way to 20 points. Giant center Ha Seung-Jin was rested again, as coach Hur wishes to preserve him for the titanic tussle against Iran in two days. Korea ups their round 2 standing to 3-0. Taiwan should provide a good challenge for them next.
- The Uzbeks couldn't really get anything going here. They committed 22 turnovers and shot a measly 32% from the field. They were clearly outmatched and they have failed to gain momentum on their way against the Malaysians in their next game. The winner of that match still has some hope of entering the quarters.


PHILIPPINES over JORDAN, 72-64
PHL 72 - Douthit 19, Lassiter 14, Alapag 11, Tiu 9, Williams 6, Lutz 4, De Ocampo 4, Casio 3, Taulava 2, Barroca 0, Aguilar 0, Baracael 0
JOR 64 - Dahglas 18, Wright 16, Abbas 10, Abu Quora 7, Abbaas 6, Al-Sous 5, Zaghab 2, Soobzokov 0
QS: 11-20, 26-31, 47-47, 72-64
- Jordan played a tight 8-man rotation against the Pinoys to try and ensure a high level of play all throughout. It worked early on as they built a big 18-point lead, but the Pinoys, buoyed by the clearance of Fil-Ams Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz, clawed back in the 2nd canto to restore order. The Filipinos eventually took the lead in the 3rd stanza and it was a close match from then on. A fast start in the fourth gave the Philippines an 8-point bubble, but Jordan quickly closed the gap after a timeout. They fell short, however, as the Pinoys proved steadier on defense and on the line.
- Marcus Douthit bucked a mild sprain he got in the third period to finish strong and lead Team Pilipinas with 19 points and 15 rebounds. Lassiter backed him up well, hitting 4 treys to rack up 14 markers. PBA MVP Jimmy Alapag also played well, hitting 2 triples on the way to 11 points. The Pinoys have another big one next as they tackle the vastly improved Japanese.
- Sam Dahglas came back from a suspected knee injury to score 18 points and grab 6 boards. He orchestrated well, especially in the early goings. Rasheim Wright finished with 16, but had to take 24 shots to get there. He made only 6 field goals in all. A big casualty seems to be AJ Zaghab, who went down in the 4th clutching his knee. He never came back, and was not able to walk it off, so it looks pretty serious. Jordan's chances took a big hit here, and they have to upset China for any hopes of finishing better than fourth in round 2.
- Jordan signed the game under protest, but it will probably be for naught since it was the head office of FIBA that gave Lassiter and Lutz an "all clear." If anyone was at fault, it was FIBA-Asia organizers, who seemed to delay everything and make communicating these developments more difficult than it should've been.


JAPAN over UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, 101-61
JPN 101 - Amino 17, Takeuchi K 15, Ishizaki 13, Shonaka 11, Takeuchi J 11, Hirose 10, Matsui 6, Sakurai 5, Takeda 4, Kashiwagi 4, Kawamura 3, Ota 2
UAE 61 - Salem 14, Al-Zaabi 13, Al-Braiki 11, Abdalla 9, Al-Hattawi 7, Ahmed 3, Al-Sari 2, Banihammad 2
QS: 15-9, 56-26, 80-43, 101-61
- UAE seemed like it would give a great challenge after the first quarter, but then Japan stepped on the gas in the second period and sustained the pressure. All in all, the Emirates were outscored 41-17 in that quarter and it proved to be the big difference in the game. Japan had more rebounds and assists, but the amazing stat was they had 17 steals! They also continued their great sniping, hitting 11 triples in the game.
- Tomoo Amino came through for the Japanese with 17 points and 3 triples. The Takeuchi twins stood tall once again, combining for 26 points and 17 rebounds. Coach Tom Wisman's wards are still undefeated, but they stand to face a major test in the Filipinos next.
- UAE's quarterfinal chances took a big dive with this loss, and every game is now a must-win for them if they wish to move on. Khalifa Salem had 14 points to lead them while Rashed Al-Zaabi made 3 triples to finish with 13 markers.


CHINA over SYRIA, 90-71
CHN 90 - Yi J 19, Su 14, Wang 9, Zhang B 8, Sun 8, Zhu 7, Liu 6, Yi L 6, Xirelijiang 5, Ding 4, Yu 4, Zhang Z 0
SYR 71 -Deeb 16, Daks 12, Gorges 9, Al-Hamowi 9, Lubus 8, Al-Saman 8, Al-Khatib 7, Osfira 2, Jlilati 0, Nalbandian 0, Abboud 0
QS: 24-10, 47-28, 70-49, 90-71
- China's 24-10 start gave them enough cushion to just cruise all the way to the win. Coach Bob Donewald's wards exploited their size advantage to outscore Syria in the paint, 44-18, and they scored at will in transition, getting 16 fast break points to just 2 for Syria. Syria actually seemed poised to challenge China mid-1st quarter at 10-12, but the Chinese unloaded a 16-10 bomb briding the first two periods to silence all doubts.
- Yi Jianlian topscored again with 19 points on 7-of-10 FG shooting while also grabbing 6 rebounds. SU Wei backed him up down low with 14 markers on 5-of-7 shooting. Overall, the Chinese shot 57% from the field and 54% from beyond the arc. They remain unscathed in 4 games and are set to face the reeling Jordanians next.
- Syria's erstwhile big guns, Wael Jlilati, Vache Nalbandian and Eder Gorges all put up subpar performances here. Jlilati and Nalbandian both failed to score in about 12 minutes each. Gorges, meanwhile, shot just 3-of-13 and ended up with 9 markers and just 1 board. Ioannis Deeb and Samir Daks led Syria's losing effort with 16 and 12 respectively. They tumble to 0-3 in round 2, but have a chance against the Emirates next.


INDONESIA over BAHRAIN, 85-62
INA 85 - Poedjakesuma 32, Sitepu 18, Prawiro 11, Dewanto 6, Indrawan 7, Gunawan 5, Chandra 2, Prihantono 2, Gerungan 2, Wuysang 0, Situmorang 0
BRN 62 - Malabes 17, Al-Tawashi 11, Mubarak 10, Isa 8, Akber 6, Mahri 4, Sarhan 4, Malallah 2, Ali 0, Ashoor 0
QS: 12-17, 36-34, 53-45, 85-62
- Bahrain seemed poised to nail its first win after a 10-0 start, but Indonesia regrouped and outscored the Bahrainis 36-24 the rest of the first half. The Indons continued shooting well, particularly on second-chance points, where they had the advantage 18-3. They also forced Bahrain to commit 23 turnovers and scored 24 off of those errors. A 32-17 fourth period settled the final spread for the SEABA bridesmaids.
- Andi Poedjakesuma had one of the most prolific offensive performances of the tourney with 32 points. He also grabbed 8 rebounds and converted 6 of 11 triple tries. Christian Sitepu and Ponsianus Indrawan effectively patrolled the interior, pairing up for 25 points and 21 boards. Mario Wuysang failed to put up any points, but he did well as the playmaker with 11 assists. The Indons finally got a win and can get another one in the battle for 13th place against India.
- Bader Malabes continues to be Bahrain's most consistent scorer in Wuhan. He hit 3 triples to finish with 17 points on top of 6 rebounds and 4 dimes. Rahman Mubarak was also good down low with 10 markers and 8 boards. Bahrain finishes the competition winless, but one better than Qatar, who chose to forfeit all remaining matches.


you really remind me of rhk11 the way you post your insights


http://forums.interbasket.net/f62/group-e-day-2-philippines-vs-10629/p27.html

reamily
09-20-2011, 04:05 AM
Looks like FIBA Asia and the Wuhan 2011 official websites are down again, they are probably overloaded with traffic and didn't have the foresight to increase the bandwidth...
Anyway, in my opinion the websites for previous championships were much nicer in terms of detail, stats etc...

because it was the FIBA world made that site much better alternative to the official website is the road to London website of fiba

Walken
09-20-2011, 04:16 AM
Looks like FIBA Asia and the Wuhan 2011 official websites are down again, they are probably overloaded with traffic and didn't have the foresight to increase the bandwidth...
Anyway, in my opinion the websites for previous championships were much nicer in terms of detail, stats etc...
use fibalondon2012 site http://london2012.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/12/olym/p/asid/5195/eid/6232/lid//rid//sid/6232/schedule.html

usausa
09-20-2011, 04:56 AM
Looks like FIBA Asia and the Wuhan 2011 official websites are down again, they are probably overloaded with traffic and didn't have the foresight to increase the bandwidth...
Anyway, in my opinion the websites for previous championships were much nicer in terms of detail, stats etc...

I disagree I like the stat presentation for the most part better this year...you can download the .pdf files for the boxscore and the play-by-play, which is awesome for me...only championship that has that. But the season stats are lacking...

behzadir
09-20-2011, 07:18 AM
Iran 76- 45 Lebanon :D

Bernard
09-20-2011, 07:47 AM
Iran 76- 45 Lebanon :D

congrats on the LOGIC win from a full roster team with an amazing NT program and preparation against an unexperienced team with barely 5% of what any NT can and should have as preparations :)
result was expected.

unfortunately our failure this year is due to our federation's negligence for the lebanese basketball.

congrats again, i think IRAN will get the gold again this year ! ;)

Long Live Lebanon !! (Except All the Politicians!!)

gazara
09-20-2011, 07:50 AM
wow it s a Huge win for You !! you won against USA to be so happy !!
you played against unexperienced players ,young players ,no system ,no leader ,no scorer ,nothing !!

but your Full roster this Season (Samad and the others ) Enjoyed the 6-0 Wins for the Lebanese Teams against Your Teams ! and specially i enjoy the 42 Pts of khatib in the Final asian Club championship ,lol he kicked Samad asses :D:D

behzadir
09-20-2011, 07:57 AM
wow it s a Huge win for You !! you won against USA to be so happy !!


Indeed it wasn't USA, we won a rather ridiculously weak team today!:D

Good luck against Uzbekistan,hope you can reach the QF's.

bballer2010
09-20-2011, 08:05 AM
wow it s a Huge win for You !! you won against USA to be so happy !!
you played against unexperienced players ,young players ,no system ,no leader ,no scorer ,nothing !!

but your Full roster this Season (Samad and the others ) Enjoyed the 6-0 Wins for the Lebanese Teams against Your Teams ! and specially i enjoy the 42 Pts of khatib in the Final asian Club championship ,lol he kicked Samad asses :D:D

haha dont be a sore loser...you lost fair n square...its not Irans fault your federation brought an amatuer team to a big tournament...suck ti up and goodluck with uzbekhistan lool

behzadir
09-20-2011, 08:40 AM
South Korea making a big statement here. 4 minutes left to end of Q3 and they are leading Chinese Taipei 60-36!

macan77
09-20-2011, 08:53 AM
wow it s a Huge win for You !! you won against USA to be so happy !!
you played against unexperienced players ,young players ,no system ,no leader ,no scorer ,nothing !!

but your Full roster this Season (Samad and the others ) Enjoyed the 6-0 Wins for the Lebanese Teams against Your Teams ! and specially i enjoy the 42 Pts of khatib in the Final asian Club championship ,lol he kicked Samad asses :D:D

why so defensive dude..he was just stating facts..even if there was malice intended, still it doesn't explicitly shown..just learn from this experience just as philippine posters here learned from ours..you can't always gauge the strenght of your team with the past results..it is what you have now..that's why i was telling you all along that your team is good but not experienced enough..your team is doing good given the circumstances..your coach knows that..

seigle42
09-20-2011, 09:36 AM
malaysia upsets 10-man uzbekistan 80-75

eng.oam
09-20-2011, 10:18 AM
haha dont be a sore loser...you lost fair n square...its not Irans fault your federation brought an amatuer team to a big tournament...suck ti up and goodluck with uzbekhistan lool

I agree with you However somebody are bad loser and they cant stand losing Whatever! Of course it depends on their behavior and personality! anyway I predict Iran-Korea will be best match at this tournament so far.

Bernard
09-20-2011, 11:21 AM
I agree with you However somebody are bad loser and they cant stand losing Whatever! Of course it depends on their behavior and personality! anyway I predict Iran-Korea will be best match at this tournament so far.

not at all...many expected this failure this year...some were just trying to cheer themselves up and be optimistic and bugging other posters here...thats how basketball is anyways... the challenge, bugging during playtime...:p

anyways read my post up, and ull c that ur win was respected due to a logic team mismatch...:rolleyes:

Long Live Lebanon !! (Except All the Politicians!!)

behzadir
09-20-2011, 11:55 AM
Philippines nearly booking their place in the Semi Final's.

Great game and congratulations. The best game of the tourney so far IMO.

Well done Philippines,a truly well deserved win. Philippines will beat Chinese Taipei with this kind of performance for sure.

Only way to complicate things is a Japanese win against China. Which is highly slim.

alien space bats
09-20-2011, 12:05 PM
Philippines nearly booking their place in the Semi Final's.

Great game and congratulations. The best game of the tourney so far IMO.

Well done Philippines,a truly well deserved win. Philippines will beat Chinese Taipei with this kind of performance for sure.

Only way to complicate things is a Japanese win against China. Which is highly slim.

the motivation was avoid iran in the quarters at all cost. that goes to show how much we respect iranian basketball,guys.

behzadir
09-20-2011, 12:11 PM
the motivation was avoid iran in the quarters at all cost. that goes to show how much we respect iranian basketball,guys.


Whatever the motivation was it had a tremendous impact on your guys performance.

The second half was just magnificent by team Pilipinas.

Scoring 49 and just letting 36 to get scored on. They have their grasp on the semis now for sure.

kingkobe
09-20-2011, 12:21 PM
better luck next time lebnani peeps! lol! :Di hope we beat syria tomorrow! :rolleyes:

babdelkader
09-20-2011, 12:38 PM
better luck next time lebnani peeps! lol! :Di hope we beat syria tomorrow! :rolleyes:

u can.

Mojado
09-20-2011, 03:46 PM
Looks like Qatar is still in charge regarding FIBA Asia.
http://www.dohastadiumplusqatar.com/sheikh-saud-resigns-qbf-head/

potz05
09-20-2011, 11:01 PM
better luck next time lebnani peeps! lol! :Di hope we beat syria tomorrow! :rolleyes:

Will people like you stop being so cocky.

durden_tyler
09-21-2011, 12:01 AM
Will people like you stop being so cocky.

Relax Potz. This is Syria we are talking about. We could play with one leg and we'd win by 2 points ;)

CKR13
09-21-2011, 12:31 AM
FAIL on FIBA Asia's statistics website. Moon Tae Jong and Cameron Jarod Stevenson are tied at the third top scorer. :p

http://wuhan2011.fibaasia.net/Player_Statistics.aspx

Batman
09-21-2011, 01:09 AM
What will happen if China will give this game to Japan intentionally? They will have a three-way tie with RP. Do you have any idea for the quotient system that Fiba Asia is using?

mavrick_h
09-21-2011, 01:19 AM
What will happen if China will give this game to Japan intentionally? They will have a three-way tie with RP. Do you have any idea for the quotient system that Fiba Asia is using?

and why would they do that ? :)

pcder
09-21-2011, 01:20 AM
What will happen if China will give this game to Japan intentionally? They will have a three-way tie with RP. Do you have any idea for the quotient system that Fiba Asia is using?

take easy , it wouldn't happen, believe me;)

chester25
09-21-2011, 01:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman View Post
What will happen if China will give this game to Japan intentionally? They will have a three-way tie with RP. Do you have any idea for the quotient system that Fiba Asia is using?

take easy , it wouldn't happen, believe me


agree. with the still lingering political animosity between china and japan. the chinese won't give the game just like that. it won't happen. not a chance. last night, you can clearly hear who the chinese audience is cheering for...the Phils! every shot of team Phils receives a thundering applause and cheers from them.

but this is FIBA Asia, strange things happen...

durden_tyler
09-21-2011, 01:45 AM
take easy , it wouldn't happen, believe me;)

Thanks for that assurance.:D

-«miron»-
09-21-2011, 02:26 AM
tonight, our second stringers should take charge.
go Gilas PILIPINAS!

F-15Eagle
09-21-2011, 04:31 AM
What will happen if China will give this game to Japan intentionally? They will have a three-way tie with RP. Do you have any idea for the quotient system that Fiba Asia is using?

Nope. given the history of the two country:D Even if it comes to the situation in which a chinese win over japan would mean an outright philippines entry to the semis <hypothetical peeps read before reacting:D>, i think they'd take that poison rather than let Good 'ol Nippon win especially in the soil of the middle kingdom:p
If japan will win its because kawamura and matsui combined for a 20/20 3 pt fg in the face of sun yue's "long outsretched arms":D

EL TERRIBLE
09-21-2011, 05:27 AM
and why would they do that ? :)

korek! why would china do that? loosing 2 Japan would just complicate things & China won't gain anything from it. Losing 2 japan would be a bitter pill 2 swallow 4 diehard chinese fans. Chinese fans will never accept such a defeat.

Batman
09-21-2011, 05:31 AM
If Japan wins even by 1 tonight, this would be the scenario:

Group F
1st-China (+15, -1 = +14)
2nd-Japan (-7, +1 = -6)
3rd-Philippines (-15, +7 = -8)
4th-Jordan

Group E
1st-Iran
2nd-South Korea
3rd-Chinese-Taipei
4th-Lebanon

In short, Japan will face CT in the quarters and will surely advance in the semis to meet Iran.

In FIBA Asia where basketball is mixed with business and politics, China may intentionally give this game to Japan and have the Hayabusa face CT instead of S. Korea in the quarters.

Mark my words!

potz05
09-21-2011, 05:34 AM
If Japan wins even by 1 tonight, this would be the scenario:

Group F
1st-China (+15, -1 = +14)
2nd-Japan (-7, +1 = -6)
3rd-Philippines (-15, +7 = -8)
4th-Jordan

Group E
1st-Iran
2nd-South Korea
3rd-Chinese-Taipei
4th-Lebanon

In short, Japan will face CT in the quarters and will surely advance in the semis to meet Iran.

In FIBA Asia where basketball is mixed with business and politics, China may intentionally give this game to Japan and have the Hayabusa face CT instead of S. Korea in the quarters.

Mark my words!

Ok noted.

Let's just see if China is stupid enough to lose against one of their arch enemies in Japan.

zoman114
09-21-2011, 05:45 AM
DAY 5 OF THE 2011 FIBA-ASIA MEN'S TOURNEY


MALAYSIA over UZBEKISTAN, 80-75
MAS 80 - Batumalai 14, Chee 13, Kwaan 12, Loh 11, Lau 8, Ng 7, Wee 5, Ooi 4, Soo 3, Kuppusamy 3, Kuek 0
UZB 75 - Kozlov 21, Zinonev 15, Yahin 9, Juginisov 8, Belojurov 6, Denisov 6, Nuraliev 5, Shatrov 3, Khabibullin 2, Pereverzev 0
QS: 21-10, 44-33, 61-54, 80-75
- The Malaysians were able to buck their size disadvantage and lead the Uzbeks for practically the whole game. Field goal shooting and free throw shooting proved to be the key aspects of the game as Malaysia outshot Uzbekistan (50%-39%) from the floor, and they offset the Uzbeks' 11 triple conversions by shooting 22-of-30 from the line as opposed to just 8-of-14 for Uzbekistan. Malaysia also forced the Uzbeks to 21 errors while committing just 16 of their own. Amazingly, the Malaysians outscored the taller Uzbeks in the paint, 34-28.
- Four people finished in double-figures for Malaysia: Guga Batumalai, Li Wei Chee, Yoong Jing Kwaan and Shee Fai Loh with 14, 13, 12, and 11 points respectively. Chee also grabbed 9 rebounds while Batumalai dished out 4 assists. Malaysia stays alive for a quarterfinals seat, but they'll have to beat the Taiwanese next.
- This loss virtually sends the Uzbeks crashing out of quarterfinal contention and relegates them to the next round of matches for the 9th-12th places. Alekzandr Kozlov finally flashed the form he showed in the 2009 FIBA-Asia, ending up with 21 points, 8 rebounds, and 3 steals. Gennadiy Zinonev, meanwhile, shot the lights out from deep, hitting 5 triples to score 15 points.


SYRIA over UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, 80-73
SYR 80 - Gorges 17, Osfira 14, Deeb 13, Nalbandian 11, Jlilati 9, Lubus 6, Al-Saman 3, Al-Hamowi 3, Al-Khatib 2, Daks 2
UAE 73 - Ahmad 25, Salem 17, Al-Sari 11, Al-Hattawi 8, Abdalla 5, Al-Braiki 3, Ahmed 2, Al-Zaabi 2, Banihammad 0
QS: 30-16, 48-35, 64-51, 80-73
- UAE never tasted the lead as the Syrians put on the pressure early and they didn't look back. The Syrians utilized superior size to control the glass (60-30) and second chance points (26-7). UAE tried to mount a last-ditch rally in the final 5 minutes, but they were just not able to get enough stops to steal the game.
- Eder Gorges was a beast under the basket, scoring 17 points and grabbing 15 rebounds, including 8 on the offensive end. UAE just had no answer for Syria's big guy, and he made them pay. Syria's quarterfinal hopes are flickering, and they'll need to beat the Jordanians next if they still harbor intentions of staying alive for the top 8.
- UAE actually shot better than Syria from the floor, not to mention forcing 19 Syrian turnovers, but they just couldn't capitalize. Ibrahim Ahmad hit 3 treys to finish with 25 points while Khalil Salem added 17 markers and 3 thefts. They have a tall order of trying to beat the Japanese next.


IRAN over LEBANON, 76-45
IRI 76 - Afagh 16, Bahrami 16, Haddadi 12, Kazemi 8, Kamrani 7, Davari 5, Davarpanah 4, Sahakian 4, Kardoust 3, Sohrabnejad 1, Davoudi 0, Atashi 0
LIB 45 - Reda 16, Hoskin 15, Ibrahim 7, Kanaan 3, Abedl Nour 2, Stephan 2, Martinez 0, Akl 0, Bawji 0, Tabet 0
QS: 18-7, 32-19, 49-24, 76-45
- Domination was the name of the game as Iran pounded the Lebanese literally from start to finish. As expected, Iran scored a ton of points in the interior and got on the break more successfully than Lebanon. The Iranians had more rebounds, assists and blocks than their chief WABA rivals, but the glaring stat is that the Cedars were limited to just 27% shooting from the floor. Usual reliables Jean Abdel Nour and Elie Stephan shot a combined 2-of-13 from the field for a total of 4 points only. Lebanon actually trailed by a manageable 13 points at the half, but a 17-5 3rd period put Iran way beyond reach.
- The swingman duo of Hamed Afagh and Samad Nikkhah Bahrami proved to be too much for Lebanon to handle. Afagh and Bahrami paired up for 32 points while Hamed Haddadi continue to take names with another double-double (12 points & 12 rebounds). Iran remains undefeated in 5 games, but a big test awaits in the similarly flawless Koreans.
- Ghaleb Reda led Lebanon with 16 points, but he shot a measly 4-of-14 from the floor. Sam Hoskin did produce a double-double with 15 markers and 11 boards, but he too was awful from the field at just 33% shooting. Lebanon remains winless in round 2 play, but that could change when they face Uzbekistan next.


SOUTH KOREA over TAIWAN, 82-61
KOR 82 - Cho 19, Stevenson 15, Oh 14, Yang DG 10, Kim YH 9, Kim JS 8, Kim JK 5, Yang HJ 2, Lee 0, Kang 0, Ha 0
TPE 61 - Wu 15, Tseng 13, Chen HA 10, Chien 8, Mao 4, Chang 3, Lee 2, Su 2, Lin 2, Lu 2, Ho 0
QS: 18-20, 43-32, 64-40, 82-61
- Taiwan played the Koreans tight in the first frame, even leading 20-18 after 10 minutes, but they faltered in the middle periods. Korea outscored its EABA counterparts, 46-20, in the 2nd and 3rd quarters to blow the game open and simply cruise in the final stanza. Both teams shot poorly from downtown -- a combined 6-of-40 only, but Korea compensated by going to the line more often and almost doubling up Taiwan's rebound numbers. Coach Hur Jae's boys also enjoyed more dimes, thefts and rejections.
- Cho Sung-Min's hot hand remained sterling here, as he was the only player to hit multiple treys (3). He finished with 19 points to lead the Korean charge. The forward pair of Jarod Stevenson and Oh Se-Keun backed him up with a combined 29 points and 13 boards. Yang Dong-Geun, meanwhile, had an all-around performance of 10 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, and 1 steal. Korea's slate remains spotless, but its next assignment, Iran, will probably change all that.
- Taiwan had more inside points than Korea, led by its twin towers, Wu Tai-Hao and Tseng Wen-Ting. Wu and Tseng had a combined 28 points and 11 rebounds for coach Chou Jun-San. Taiwan just shot poorly from beyond the arc and they were not able to recover after getting blasted in the 2nd and 3rd periods. This is their first loss of round 2 and, should they win against Malaysia later on, their record may be good enough to grant them 3rd place going into the crossover quarterfinals.


PHILIPPINES over JAPAN, 83-76
PHL 83 - Douthit 25, Alapag 15, Lassiter 15, Williams 12, Barroca 6, Casio 4, De Ocampo 4, Taulava 2, Tiu 0, Lutz 0
JPN 76 - Takeuchi J 22, Shonaka 14, Hirose 13, Kawamura 12, Takeuchi K 6, Ishizaki 5, Amino 4, Matsui 0, Takeda 0, Sakurai 0, Kashiwagi 0, Ota 0
QS: 18-23, 34-40, 60-52, 83-76
- The Filipinos are slowly becoming the tournament's comeback kings. They started hot, leading 18-13 late in the first canto before Japan unleashed a furious 13-0 blast that seemingly put Team Hayabusa in control. It was a nip-tuck affair for the rest of the first half as the Japanese showed uncanny 3-point shooting while Philippine big man Marcus Douthit struggled for his points. That all changed, however, when the 3rd period started. A 10-0 spurt by the Pinoys gave them the lead at 46-43, and they extended it to 8 to start the fourth. Douthit regained his form underneath while Marcio Lassiter and Jimmy Alapag hit their jumpers to give the Philippines leads as high as 13. Japan fought back late in the game, though, and managed to cut it to just 5 with about a minute to go, but the Pinoys proved steadier in the end.
- Douthit's monster double-double (25 points & 18 rebounds), along with the great outside production of Lassiter and Alapag (15 points each, and a combined 4-of-8 from downtown) were the main factors for this win. Kelly Williams also contributed 12 points as Team Pilipinas controlled the lane, outrebounding the Japanese (44-31), outscoring them in the paint (52-20) and getting the jump on second-chances (19-8). The Pinoys move up to 2nd spot in Group F and, if they win over Syria, go into the next round against probably the Taiwanese.
- Japan suffered its first loss, but it will be big as they have yet to face China. This means they will likely fall to 3rd in Group F and have to face either Korea or Iran in the Final 8. Joji Takeuchi scored 22 points and shot 4 triples to lead Japan. His twin, though, managed just 6 markers. And for the first time in the tourney, nobody finished in double-digit rebounding for coach Tom Wisman. Japan did convert 12 triples here, but that's out of 33 attempts, which is more than half of their total field goals. They have to establish a stronger inside presence if they want to advance beyond the quarters.


CHINA over JORDAN, 93-60
CHN 93 - Yi J 16, Yi L 14, Sun 14, Wang 10, Zhang Z 9, Zhu 8, Su 6, Liu 5, Ding 4, Zhang B 4, Yu 3, Xirelijiang 0
JOR 60 - Abbas 17, Abbaas 12, Wright 11, Dahglas 10, Hussein 4, Soobzokov 3, Zaghab 2, Abu Quora 1, Abu Ruqayah 0, Al-Sous 0
QS: 25-15, 40-34, 71-44, 93-60
- What was billed as a potentially close encounter turned out to be a rout in favor of the hosts. Jordan was able to stick with the heftier Chinese in the first half, but a 31-10 blitz in the 3rd stanza emphatically shut the door on them. China outshot Jordan from the floor (52%-27%) and also doubled up on Jordan's 3-point conversions (11-5). As expected, coach Bob Donewald's wards also dominated inside, outrebounding Jordan and blocking more shots. It was never close after the halftime break as China mounted a lead as big as 36 points.
- China's two Yis were terrific here. Yi Jianlian had 16 points and 12 rebounds while Yi Li had 14 markers and 2 triples. Sun Yue was also spectacular with 14 points, but more impressive were his 2 steals and 3 blocks. China's squeaky-clean record remains, and it should continue to be that way even after Japan challenges them next.
- Jordan, despite having a couple of players with CBA experience, groped for form in the 2nd half and were just unable to get back in the game after China's 3rd quarter run. Zaid Abbas led the way with 17 points, but he had only 3 rebounds. Sam Dahglas, meanwhile, finished with 10 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists, but he committed 5 turnovers. Rasheim Wright had another anemic shooting night, making just 4-of-15 field goals for 11 points. Jordan could very well finish 4th in Group F even if they win against UAE.


INDONESIA over INDIA, 84-75
INA 85 - Wuysang 17, Prihantono 16, Sitepu 15, Prawiro 8, Gunawan 7, Chandra 6, Situmorang 6, Poedjakesuma 5, Indrawan 4, Haryoko 0
IND 74 - Koroth 22, Singh J 11, Singh Y 9, Rai 8, Singh T 8, Bharama 6, Bhriguvanshi 5, Singh At 4, Singh Al 2, Grewal 0
QS: 20-14, 44-37, 67-57, 84-75
- The Indonesians got win #2 in the day's last game at the expense of India. The Indons finished ahead, 20-14, at then end of the first frame and never relinquished it, leading by as many as 16 points in the third period. Indonesia shot a little better from the field and they collared more caroms, which proved to be decisive in the end.
- Mario Wuysang made up for his previous scoreless performance by leading the Indons this time around. He flirted with a triple-double, finishing with 17 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists. Amin Prihantono backed him up with 16 points and 3 triples. Christian Sitepu was solid down low again with 15 markers and 8 boards. Indonesia effectively finishes 13th, the best they have finished in a long time.
- Hareesh Koroth displayed accurate shooting again, making 4 treys on his way to 22 points. Jagdeep Singh followed him up with 11 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists. India didn't actually win any game in the tourney, but they finish ahead of Bahrain by virtue of winning by default against Qatar yesterday.

j_abellana
09-21-2011, 06:24 AM
If Japan wins even by 1 tonight, this would be the scenario:

Group F
1st-China (+15, -1 = +14)
2nd-Japan (-7, +1 = -6)
3rd-Philippines (-15, +7 = -8)
4th-Jordan

Group E
1st-Iran
2nd-South Korea
3rd-Chinese-Taipei
4th-Lebanon

In short, Japan will face CT in the quarters and will surely advance in the semis to meet Iran.

In FIBA Asia where basketball is mixed with business and politics, China may intentionally give this game to Japan and have the Hayabusa face CT instead of S. Korea in the quarters.

Mark my words!


well youre gonna have to add the results of our game with Syria later. barring a catastrophe in our game vs. syria, japan will have to beat china by a lot of points- and they're not gonna let that happen.

durden_tyler
09-21-2011, 08:04 AM
well youre gonna have to add the results of our game with Syria later. barring a catastrophe in our game vs. syria, japan will have to beat china by a lot of points- and they're not gonna let that happen.

Did you even read his post? Japan has to win only 1 point and the Philippines ends up at 3rd.

(Not that i see it happening but you did not see his point)

Batman
09-21-2011, 08:12 AM
well youre gonna have to add the results of our game with Syria later. barring a catastrophe in our game vs. syria, japan will have to beat china by a lot of points- and they're not gonna let that happen.

Have you read the FIBA quotient system?

seigle42
09-21-2011, 09:59 AM
if philippines leads big vs. syria. marcus douthit should rest to the bench.

seigle42
09-21-2011, 10:24 AM
japeth aguilar still sucks!

psychopath
09-21-2011, 10:34 AM
japeth only knows 1 shot... the dunk shot
he cant even use any pivot move to free himself for a second
he regressed
a lot

makotosing
09-21-2011, 10:43 AM
dunk.. the fave shot of hanamichi sakuragi...

clutchjedi
09-21-2011, 10:55 AM
Our (Philippines) fate depends more on the China-Japan game than our own Syria game.

If China wins = we're #2 regardless of Syria game
If Japan wins small (under ~22) = we're #3 regardless of Syria game
If Japan wins big (~22+ but also depends on total score) = we're #2 if we had beaten Syria, #3 if we lost to Syria.

Actually, if PHL loses to Syria, China has all the motivation to beat Japan, because losing to Japan means China drops to #2 (H2H) to face Iran in the semis.

Whereas if PHL beats Syria, China can "afford" to lose small to Japan as they would still have the best quotient in a triple tie (PHL would be worst and drop to #3).

psychopath
09-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Our (Philippines) fate depends more on the China-Japan game than our own Syria game.

If China wins = we're #2 regardless of Syria game
If Japan wins small (under ~22) = we're #3 regardless of Syria game
If Japan wins big (~22+ but also depends on total score) = we're #2 if we had beaten Syria, #3 if we lost to Syria.

Actually, if PHL loses to Syria, China has all the motivation to beat Japan, because losing to Japan means China drops to #2 (H2H) to face Iran in the semis.

Whereas if PHL beats Syria, China can "afford" to lose small to Japan as they would still have the best quotient in a triple tie (PHL would be worst and drop to #3).

china losing to japan only have 0.00001% chance

Jeffie
09-21-2011, 11:56 AM
Congratulations to Smart Gilas!!! :D Our hopes of qualifying for the Olympics are still alive!!! :D

merps baller the return
09-21-2011, 11:57 AM
chinese are to proud to lose a game early at this stage, unless their fat ....... coach say's so:rolleyes:

oaba09
09-21-2011, 11:58 AM
Hi guys,
This is my first post here(I only discovered this forum recently)

Just watched the Phil-Syria game. Our team had another slow start(they need to stop doing this). Fortunately, their defense and offense picked up during the 3rd qtr.

China intentionally losing a game in front of their home crowd is not likely to happen...

mavrick_h
09-21-2011, 04:29 PM
http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp83/mavrick_h/as.jpg
http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp83/mavrick_h/st-1.jpg

nardy
09-21-2011, 05:06 PM
is it too much wishful thinking that Jordan, Japan, Lebanon and the Philippines win in the Quarterfinals.

Wow that would really make my day!

usausa
09-21-2011, 05:13 PM
As I was telling a friend of mine whos not on the forum when the tournament started, the draw was favorable for the Philippines to make a run....and with Qatar deciding to half-ass it, even better. And with the Philippines beating who they've needed to beat, they have given themselves a comfortable draw. Chinese Taipei is probably the team I feel most confident the Philippines can beat. Then they make it to the final four where al they have to do is win one game in either the semis or the third to get at least to the Olympic qualifying.

I've been afraid to say this on the board, but I'll say it now. This looks like the Philippines year to make a solid run to the podium. They have a legit chance at making it to the Olympic Qualifying tournament. I think the Philippines have a chance. Even if they finish 4th, I'll consider it a success since its the highest finish in awhile and it gives the nation confidence in a national team.

usausa
09-21-2011, 05:14 PM
Shoutout to Marcus Douthit, who is leading the tourney in scoring and rebounding, and second in blocks to Hamed Haddadi..

behzadir
09-21-2011, 06:42 PM
is it too much wishful thinking that Jordan, Japan, Lebanon and the Philippines win in the Quarterfinals.

Wow that would really make my day!

If you're a person inside the Philippines team i must say you're scared as hell!!:D

durden_tyler
09-22-2011, 12:05 AM
If you're a person inside the Philippines team i must say you're scared as hell!!:D

Haha. Good point.

ctongco
09-22-2011, 12:51 AM
is it too much wishful thinking that Jordan, Japan, Lebanon and the Philippines win in the Quarterfinals.

Wow that would really make my day!

Personally, I'd like us to meet Iran in the semis. Given, of course, that we beat Chinese Taipei. It's more of giving the team a chance to win against the defending Asian Champions. If we lose, let's lose fighting. :)

zoman114
09-22-2011, 01:21 AM
DAY 6 OF THE 2011 FIBA-ASIA MEN'S TOURNEY

LEBANON over UZBEKISTAN, 101-53
LIB 101 - Reda 18, Hoskin 18, Abdel Nour 16, Ibrahim 11, Akl 7, Martinez 6, Stephan 6, Bawji 6, Tabet 6, El Farkh 5, Kanaan 2, Bitar 0
UZB 53 - Denisov 19, Juginisov 11, Nuraliev 10, Timofev 4, Zinonev 3, Shatrov 2, Yahin 2, Pereverzev 2, Khabibullin 0, Kadirov 0, Belokurov 0
QS: 24-22, 50-26, 75-35, 101-53
- Uzbekistan kept it close for the first 10 minutes, and then they had terrible 2nd and 3rd quarters as Lebanon just ran them over. Lebanon dominated the inside, outscoring Uzbekistan in the paint, 36-20, and on second-chance points, 26-9. The Lebanese also converted on 15 of their 29 triples and outrebounded the Uzbeks 60-29.
- Ghaleb Reda hit 3 treys to lead Lebanon's offensive charge with 18 points. Sam Hoskin also finished with 18 markers, but he also added 11 rebounds and 3 blocks. The Lebanese cement 4th place in Group E and face the supremely confident Chinese tomorrow.
- Uzbekistan lost all of its round 2 games and, as a result, is relegated to the battle for the 9th-12th spots in the competition. Vyacheslav Denisov led the former Soviet state with 19 points, 5 triples and 2 steals. Curiously, former star scorer Aleksandr Kozlov was not played in this game.


TAIWAN over MALAYSIA, 109-62
TPE 109 - Chang 25, Lin 21, Chien 16, Mao 13, Lu 10, Ho 6, Lee 5, Tseng 4, Wu 4, Chen SN 3, Su 2, Chen HA 0
MAS 62 - Batumalai 15, Chee 13, Kwaan 12, Lau 11, Ooi 4, Kuppusamy 3, Soo 2, Chin 2, Loh 0, Ng 0, Kuek 0
QS: 24-18, 51-36, 81-47, 109-62
- Taiwan was able to rest most of its core players as it finished round 2 with a rousing win over Malaysia. As expected, the Taiwanese dominated every facet of the match, hitting 16 treys, outrebounding the undersized Malaysians, and forcing their foes to commit 22 turnovers.
- Jet Chang had another great offensive game, scoring 25 points and hitting 4 triples. Lin Chih-Chieh, who's been relatively quiet in the tournament, erupted for 21 markers after hitting 6 from downtown. Star big men Tseng Wen-Ting and Wu Tai-Hao played a combined 21 minutes only, but reserve frontliners Chien Chia-Hung and Mao Chia-En did well in their stead, pairing up for 29 points and 13 boards. Taiwan settles for 3rd in Group E and faces the resurgent Filipinos in the Final 8.
- Malaysia suffered its 4th loss in 6 games and now sinks to the relegation round. Guga Batumalai had another good shooting day, making 5 threes for 15 points. They end up 5th in Group E and battle UAE in the crossover for 9th-12th places.


JORDAN over UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, 94-80
JOR 94 - Dahglas 20, Wright 16, Zaghab 13, Abbas 13, Abbaas 10, Al-Sous 6, Hussein 5, Abu Ruqayah 4, Soobzokov 3, Abu Quora 2, Al-Khas 2
UAE 80 - Ahmad 28, Salem 23, Al-Braiki 8, Al-Hattawi 8, Ahmed 6, Abdalla 4, Al-Sari 3, Banihammad 0
QS: 40-20, 57-38, 82-58, 94-80
- Jordan scored a tournament-high 40 points in the 1st period to settle the rout early and in emphatic fashion. They utilized superior size to outscore the Emirates, 62-30, in the paint and just kept control of the game all through out, even as UAE hit 12 treys and tried to mount a mild comeback in the 4th frame.
- Jordan finished 3rd over all in 2009, but now they are 4th in Group F. The consequence is they face WABA rivals Iran in the quarterfinals. Sam Dahglas shot 20 points along with 9 assists and 4 rebounds while Ali Zaghab had an all-around night with 13 markers, 9 boards, 3 blocks and 2 steals.
- UAE featured a 2-headed monster in Ibrahim Ahmad and Khalil Salem, both of whom combined for 51 points on 10-of-17 3-point shooting, but nobody else backstopped their efforts. The Emirates tumble to 6th in Group F and take on the surprising Malaysians in the consolation round.


IRAN over SOUTH KOREA, 79-62
IRI 79 - Haddadi 17, Kamrani 15, Kazemi 11, Davoudi 10, Bahrami 8, Kardoust 5, Afagh 5, Sahakian 4, Davarpanah 2, Davari 2
KOR 62 - Yang DG 14, Lee 14, Stevenson 10, Yang HJ 6, Ha 6, Kim JS 5, Kang 3, Oh 2, Kim JK 2, Kim YH 0, Cho 0
QS: 23-13, 42-30, 61-51, 79-62
- Despite what the score might suggest, Korea was within striking distance for most of the game. Despite the presence of Ha Seung-Jin, Iran was still able to dominate the interior, outscoring Korea in the paint, 40-22. The Iranians also had a significant rebounding edge, (40-25) and surprisingly shot better from beyond the arc (7-4).
- Samad Nikkhah Bahrami left the game early after apparently spraining his ankle. Team officials don't think it's serious, though. Hamed Haddadi and Mehdi Kamrani reprised their inside-outside game, combining for 32 points. Haddaid added 11 rebounds and 5 blocked shots, while Kamrani hit 3 triples and dished out 5 assists. Iran remains undefeated going into the quarterfinals, where they'll face the dangerous Jordanians.
- Cho Sung-Min, Korea's hot hand of late, curiously played only 2 minutes in this match, with no shot attempts. Yang Dong-Geun and Lee Jung-Suk led Korea with 14 markers each, but as a team they weren't as potent as usual in shooting from range. They managed just 4 triples out of 15 attempts. Jarod Stevenson played 30 hard minutes, getting 16 rebounds and 2 steals, but shooting just 2-of-11 from the floor and ending up with 10 points. Korea faces the Japanese in the quarterfinals.


PHILIPPINES over SYRIA, 75-52
PHL 75 - Douthit 20, Tiu 8, De Ocampo 8, Casio 7, Lutz 7, Alapag 6, Lassiter 5, Taulava 4, Aguilar 4, Barroca 2, Baracael 2, Williams 2
SYR 52 - Al-Hamowi 11, Gorges 9, Jlilati 8, Nalbandian 6, Al-Saman 5, Deeb 4, Osfira 4, Lubus 3, Daks 2, Al-Khatib 0
QS: 14-11, 23-32, 49-45, 75-52
- This game featured 2 different Philippine squads -- the one that had low energy in the first half, and the one that dominated in the final 20 minutes. The Pinoys outscored Syria, 52-20, in the last 2 periods to roar back after surprisingly trailing by 9 at the half. Syria won the 2nd period with great shooting from all angles, and with Marcus Douthit getting saddled with fouls, but the Pinoys lived up to their "comeback kings" moniker after the break.
- Douthit scored the first dozen points for Team Pilipinas, and he finished with 20 to go along with 6 rebounds. He was rested for most of the 4th quarter. Nobody else finished in twin digits for the Philippines, but everyone did score. Asi Taulava led the rebounding department with 9 boards. They finish #2 in Group F and fight for a semifinals berth with the #3 from Group E, which is Taiwan.
- 7'6" giant Abdulwahab Al-Hamowi showcased great mobility for someone his size, scoring 11 points and grabbing 5 rebounds. His frontline partner, Eder Gorges, struggled with just 9 markers and 8 caroms. Syria falls outside the top 4 in Group E, and they play against the Uzbeks to begin the battle for 9th-12th spots.


CHINA over JAPAN, 84-58
CHN 84 - Yi L 19, Yi J 18, Liu 14, Wang 13, Zhu 8, Sun 7, Zhang B 3, Ding 2, Yu 0, Su 0, Xirelijiang 0
JPN 58 - Kawamura 24, Takeuchi 10, Matsui 7, ishizaki 5, Amino 4, Shonaka 3, Sakurai 2, Takeuchi 2, Ota 1, Kashiwagi 0, Hirose 0
QS: 21-16, 44-30, 61-46, 84-58
- The Chinese didn't exactly throttle their way out of the gates to blast Japan, but they gained enough separation in the last 3 quarters to confidently waltz into the quarterfinals as Group F top seeds. Expectedly, China dominated inside, where they scored more (46-16) and rebounded more (50-31) than Japan. China had some trouble limiting Japan's spunky scorer Takuya Kawamura, but his performance didn't make enough of a dent in the Chinese scheme of things anyway.
- Coach Bob Donewald's wards march to the Final 8 unscathed, and they should continue winning against the seemingly overmatched Lebanese. Yi Li was the surprise package here as he hit 3 treys to finish with a team-high 19 points. Yi Jianlian was his usual impressive self, scoring 18 points and grabbing 13 rebounds.
- Kawamura impressed the crowd with flashy moves and great shooting. He ended up with a game-high 24 points on 4-of-8 3-point sniping, but hardly anyone else produced for Japan. Joji Takeuchi, who played really well against the Philippines just a night before, was on the floor for only 9 minutes here, scoring just 2 points. His twin, Kosuke, saw major burn at the slot and managed 10 markers, 7 rebounds and 2 blocks, but it was not nearly enough to topple China. Japan advances to the quarterfinals as Group F's #3 team and their prize is to collide with regional rivals South Korea.

nardy
09-22-2011, 01:24 AM
Haha. Good point.

Well nothing is wrong to be scared .... am just human.

I remember the first time I was selected to represent my school, am proud and I believe in my self but I was scared.

durden_tyler
09-22-2011, 01:37 AM
Well nothing is wrong to be scared .... am just human.

I remember the first time I was selected to represent my school, am proud and I believe in my self but I was scared.

Yeah, and nothing wrong with wishful thinking as well. Of course, we want the best possible scenario for our team!

ros
09-22-2011, 01:38 AM
The Philippines so far has the best performance against China considering Lassiter and Lutz didn't play.

3 more wins to go, to the road of glory. Go Smart Gilas Pilipinas!!!

GilG
09-22-2011, 02:42 AM
If you're a person inside the Philippines team i must say you're scared as hell!!:D

And I think you're too sensitive:D:D

EL TERRIBLE
09-22-2011, 04:48 AM
I just hope that Smart Gilas displays the same energy & focus vs. Taiwan tomorow like what the pinoys displayed in that game vs. Japan last tuesday. Our game vs. taiwan would be our ticket 2 d semis & I believe reaching the semis would be a very good accomplishment 4 our team. Though Smart Gilas beat Taiwan twice in the Jones Cup & those 2 wins were quire convincing, still our team could not afford 2 be complacent. Taiwan did not have one of its top big man- Wu Tai Hao, in the Jones Cup & Wu is playing in Wuhan. Also U have this feeling that the Taiwan team that we beat in the Jones Cup may be a bit weaker than the one playing in Wuhan. We have to remember, its already the quaterfinals, the taiwanese are also out 2 achieve at least a semifinals finish. A lot is stake in that game. Smart Gilas should leave no stone unturned prior to that game. The team has done a lot 2 get us into this position where we have a very good chance of achieving our goals.

Let's pray for the win by our team tomorrow vs. Taiwan. I believe prayers can make a big difference!

babdelkader
09-22-2011, 05:38 AM
I just hope that Smart Gilas displays the same energy & focus vs. Taiwan tomorow like what the pinoys displayed in that game vs. Japan last tuesday. Our game vs. taiwan would be our ticket 2 d semis & I believe reaching the semis would be a very good accomplishment 4 our team. Though Smart Gilas beat Taiwan twice in the Jones Cup & those 2 wins were quire convincing, still our team could not afford 2 be complacent. Taiwan did not have one of its top big man- Wu Tai Hao, in the Jones Cup & Wu is playing in Wuhan. Also U have this feeling that the Taiwan team that we beat in the Jones Cup may be a bit weaker than the one playing in Wuhan. We have to remember, its already the quaterfinals, the taiwanese are also out 2 achieve at least a semifinals finish. A lot is stake in that game. Smart Gilas should leave no stone unturned prior to that game. The team has done a lot 2 get us into this position where we have a very good chance of achieving our goals.

Let's pray for the win by our team tomorrow vs. Taiwan. I believe prayers can make a big difference!

Hey man, ur team is good enough to win over Taipei..
u don't need to worry that much.

AneiS
09-22-2011, 05:48 AM
And I think you're too sensitive:D:D

A player's mentality should be " Nervous but not Scared". Every got nervous... but getting scared is psychotic.

JGX
09-22-2011, 06:26 AM
China Daily article on naturalized players:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2011-09/21/content_13746473.htm

analyzed
09-22-2011, 06:30 AM
One thing you have to realize about this RP team. Is the players are really mentally tough as compared to past national teams. Part of this is because they have played in back to back game type of tournaments. and they know how to bring their A game. Aside from that the general composition of team is very expereinced . Doulthit, Alapag ,Asi , williams are veterans of big time games. So is Tiu



A player's mentality should be " Nervous but not Scared". Every got nervous... but getting scared is psychotic.

durden_tyler
09-22-2011, 06:34 AM
I just hope that Smart Gilas displays the same energy & focus vs. Taiwan tomorow like what the pinoys displayed in that game vs. Japan last tuesday. Our game vs. taiwan would be our ticket 2 d semis & I believe reaching the semis would be a very good accomplishment 4 our team. Though Smart Gilas beat Taiwan twice in the Jones Cup & those 2 wins were quire convincing, still our team could not afford 2 be complacent. Taiwan did not have one of its top big man- Wu Tai Hao, in the Jones Cup & Wu is playing in Wuhan. Also U have this feeling that the Taiwan team that we beat in the Jones Cup may be a bit weaker than the one playing in Wuhan. We have to remember, its already the quaterfinals, the taiwanese are also out 2 achieve at least a semifinals finish. A lot is stake in that game. Smart Gilas should leave no stone unturned prior to that game. The team has done a lot 2 get us into this position where we have a very good chance of achieving our goals.

Let's pray for the win by our team tomorrow vs. Taiwan. I believe prayers can make a big difference!

i feel Taipei will have a chance if we have, again, a very bad/slow start (See: Jordan, Japan, Syria)

Else, we'll be cruising to a victory.

Khalid80
09-22-2011, 07:41 AM
Hey man, ur team is good enough to win over Taipei..
u don't need to worry that much.

It's about how important this game is for them.

In previous occasions Smart Gilas cracked under pressure when it came to the do or die games. They're still better than Chinese Taipei, no doubt about it, but they can't allow Chinese Taipei to get a considerable lead over them in the first half and then fight their way back into the game... It would be too much pressure on the players.

The expectations from the fans and the nation of Philippines are also huge for Smart Gilas (anything less than a semi-final would be a dissapointment for them). No one is expecting Chinese Taipei to qualify to the semis so they're not facing the same pressure.

OSHAFA
09-22-2011, 07:52 AM
China Daily article on naturalized players:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2011-09/21/content_13746473.htm

"Actually, it feels like something is wrong when you stand with them to represent your country, especially when the national anthem plays," Qatari center Omar Salem said.

This is ridiculous !!! as Omar Salem is a Qatari :eek:

budz17
09-22-2011, 07:59 AM
It's about how important this game is for them.

In previous occasions Smart Gilas cracked under pressure when it came to the do or die games. They're still better than Chinese Taipei, no doubt about it, but they can't allow Chinese Taipei to get a considerable lead over them in the first half and then fight their way back into the game... It would be too much pressure on the players.

The expectations from the fans and the nation of Philippines are also huge for Smart Gilas (anything less than a semi-final would be a dissapointment for them). No one is expecting Chinese Taipei to qualify to the semis so they're not facing the same pressure.

right on, you understand exactly what most filipinos are thinking. we've been through numerous heartaches in international competition, people are just lowering their expectations so as not to be disappointed. busan asiad semifinals 2002 anybody. I still remember that shot by lee sang min, could'nt believe it would happen.

this team has been reinforced by professional players from the pba though, and I think they will give more stability and leadership to the core of smart gilas, so cracking in close games will no longer be an issue as we have seasoned players playing. if we lose in a close game, it will be because the other team is better, not because we have players not able to handle the pressure.

by the way, asi is the last holdover from that 2002 asiad team. after all these years, I hope he finally gets a medal

AneiS
09-22-2011, 08:05 AM
China Daily article on naturalized players:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2011-09/21/content_13746473.htm

Having Naturalized players is not wrong but depending on it is a sign of faulty sports development program.

A country should not depend on foreign born players whether full-blooded or not and even naturalized players. Philippines as mentioned in the article has benefited from naturalization 50 years ago. Primarily, Filipinos are naturally small with 6'5 considered a rarity in population because of our race, our close relative the Samoans or Tongans which are the taller version of the Malayan race (Its like the Northern Chinese who are taller and the southern who are smaller because they have a mix of Malay blood). So it is reasonable for us to recruit Centers. If Other Asians or Filipinos are objecting on this kind of practice then they should stop believing on the game of basketball. Basketball is a sport dominated by giants and that's a fact (as we have watch the gap during the Chinese vs Phil).

We are doing good right now because we have Douthit. Imagine having Douthit back in '07 (80% of players then are either full-blooded or homegrown). The Gilas players that are playing right now are the players who chose to remain and that included Lutz and Lassiter both FIl-ams others has already turned Pro. If most of our Pro Players playing with gilas right now are Fil-ams its because they are the only players that the PBA can lend because they belong to the Gilas Financier (MVP) teams in the PBA. It just happened that they were also former PBA MVPs.

And our True grassroots development program has just started. I believe citizenship should be at birth and on blood.

macan77
09-22-2011, 08:50 AM
Having Naturalized players is not wrong but depending on it is a sign of faulty sports development program.

A country should not depend on foreign born players whether full-blooded or not and even naturalized players. Philippines as mentioned in the article has benefited from naturalization 50 years ago. Primarily, Filipinos are naturally small with 6'5 considered a rarity in population because of our race, our close relative the Samoans or Tongans which are the taller version of the Malayan race (Its like the Northern Chinese who are taller and the southern who are smaller because they have a mix of Malay blood). So it is reasonable for us to recruit Centers. If Other Asians or Filipinos are objecting on this kind of practice then they should stop believing on the game of basketball. Basketball is a sport dominated by giants and that's a fact (as we have watch the gap during the Chinese vs Phil).

We are doing good right now because we have Douthit. Imagine having Douthit back in '07 (80% of players then are either full-blooded or homegrown). The Gilas players that are playing right now are the players who chose to remain and that included Lutz and Lassiter both FIl-ams others has already turned Pro. If most of our Pro Players playing with gilas right now are Fil-ams its because they are the only players that the PBA can lend because they belong to the Gilas Financier (MVP) teams in the PBA. It just happened that they were also former PBA MVPs.

And our True grassroots development program has just started. I believe citizenship should be at birth and on blood.

don't confuse yourself with this statement..fil-foreigners are citizen by birth and on blood coz the moment they are born, they are filipinos by birth due to their filipino father or mother's blood (as long as their father or mother is a filipino at the time of their birth)..maybe you mean, citizen by blood and land, being born in the philippines alone..

acklium
09-22-2011, 08:57 AM
"Actually, it feels like something is wrong when you stand with them to represent your country, especially when the national anthem plays," Qatari center Omar Salem said.

This is ridiculous !!! as Omar Salem is a Qatari :eek:

its better than falsifying date of births

analyzed
09-22-2011, 09:45 AM
kelly Williams says it best:

We've got to get our heads in the game

http://london2012.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/12/olym/news/p/nid/49589/article.html



One thing you have to realize about this RP team. Is the players are really mentally tough as compared to past national teams. Part of this is because they have played in back to back game type of tournaments. and they know how to bring their A game. Aside from that the general composition of team is very expereinced . Doulthit, Alapag ,Asi , williams are veterans of big time games. So is Tiu

analyzed
09-22-2011, 09:53 AM
Marcio Lassiter on China Daily:"I was born in the US but it doesn't mean I cant play for my own country. I am playing for FILIPINO blood & glory right now"

Well said


don't confuse yourself with this statement..fil-foreigners are citizen by birth and on blood coz the moment they are born, they are filipinos by birth due to their filipino father or mother's blood (as long as their father or mother is a filipino at the time of their birth)..maybe you mean, citizen by blood and land, being born in the philippines alone..

RedMetal
09-22-2011, 10:20 AM
Every tournament, win or lose, came with a caveat. Every high and every low were taken with a grain of salt.

The SEA Games, the Asian Games, the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, the Jones Cup, the PBA second conference — none of those tournaments mattered, truthfully. Their only real value lay in being barometers for how far the SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team had come.

Because the mandate for SMART-Gilas, from the very beginning, was clear: to qualify for the London Games.

And now, in the third year of the three-year program, the time to put up or shut up is finally here.

Marcus Douthit has truly blossomed into the ideal reinforcement for the traditionally height-challenged Philippine national team. His legitimate NBA size translates into easy buckets in the low post, and into a strong defensive presence on the other end. He has earned himself an appropriate nickname — ‘Kuya’ Marcus — both by being physically bigger than the rest of the Filipinos and by providing the steadiness only an experienced older player can.

The bench that has so often looked inadequate when Douthit takes a breather is now bolstered by three PBA Most Valuable Players in Jimmy Alapag, Kelly Williams and Asi Taulava.

The unstable power forward spot, previously filled by the undersized Mac Baracael and the talented but inconsistent Japeth Aguilar, is now reinforced by Williams and Talk ‘N Text teammate Ranidel De Ocampo, who looks tailor-made for the system installed by SMART-Gilas head coach Rajko Toroman.

And the collegiate stars that once defined the SMART-Gilas program are still mostly there; the team chemistry, the familiarity with the system and the experience on the international level all in full display whenever they take the floor together.

Jayvee Casio, the newly-minted first pick of the PBA draft, continues to provide a consistent scoring kick despite his diminutive size. Chris Tiu is still a solid presence in the backcourt; a thinking, steady leader that knows to give what the team requires of him. Mark Barroca still alternates between shaky and absolutely spectacular in his stints at point guard.

Baracael, with the eligibility concerns of teammates Chris Lutz and Marcio Lassiter, was moved to the three-spot, where his size does not put him at a disadvantage. And the talented Aguilar, whose minutes have been reduced with the influx of veteran talent on the team, provides a big spark from off-the-bench in spurts whenever he’s allowed.

Lutz and Lassiter, the 3rd and 4th picks in the 2011 PBA rookie draft, are strong, hard-nosed defenders and quality offensive threats that who give the team a different dimension.

In this tournament, there have been few surprises for SMART-Gilas, having faced the best of Asia so many times in the past. The team maintains a level of familiarity with the Middle Eastern powerhouses, having faced them all – Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Qatar and the others – in battles through the past three years. The East Asian nations got a look-see during the Jones Cup, though Japan has come with a much-stronger team than they did in that tourney.

The level of preparedness for an international competition is at an all-time high for our national team. The talent level, a big question mark during the start of the SMART-Gilas program, might be right up there compared to PBA-backed squads, especially with Douthit manning the paint. All of the weaknesses that critics had pointed to in the past are gone, or at the very least, significantly lessened.

By all indications, former national team head coach Tim Cone might be correct in saying this is the best national team we have ever sent into international competition.

Ultimately, though, even that might not matter. The mandate remains: qualify for the 2012 Olympics. Win or go home.

The program has made great strides since its inception. It has admitted when it was wrong and adjusted when something wasn’t working,

The level of commitment it required from the players — an issue that necessitated hiring collegiate and newly-graduated players — the near-epic amount of preparation, the constant exposure to international play, and the naturalization of a center are all great ideas for the national program that the country should be taking with it moving forward.

And really, that should be the legacy of the SMART-Gilas program, whether or not they win the FIBA Asia Championship for Men. That this here was the first step that returned as to relevancy in Asian basketball. That this here was the move that set us back into right direction.

That if ever the Philippines makes it back into the world stage, this here was where it all began.

SMART-Gilas might not win the tournament where, it should be noted, there is only one guaranteed Olympics slot up for grabs.

Yes, the Philippines performed admirably in the FIBA Asia tilt, winning five of six of games, including a sweep of the tournament’s second round where SMART-Gilas pulled off victories over tough Group C survivors Jordan, Japan and Syria to qualify 2nd in their combined group.

But the SMART-Gilas campaign from this point on will be far from a walk in the park. Qualifying with a higher seed from the group stage allowed them to avoid the top seeds from the opposite group in the quarterfinal, but Chinese-Taipei, a talented team that the Filipinos beat twice in the Jones Cup, will prove to be a tough enough match-up for the Philippines in the last eight.

And if they survive that, a semifinal pairing against powerhouse Iran and their star center Hamed Haddadi looks likely before a possible rematch against China, who dealt SMART-Gilas its lone loss, a 75-60 beatdown in their second game, in the tournament final.

But even if they don’t win, a medal would send them to another tournament, the 2012 World Olympic Qualifying Tournament, where they will face more teams that feature NBA players like Andrei Kirilenko and Timofey Mozgov (Russia), JJ Barea, Charlie Villanueva, Carlos Arroyo and Renaldo Balkman (Puerto Rico), Greivis Vasquez (Venezuela) and Al Horford (Dominican Republic).

And there is no shame in that. A trip to the Olympic qualifiers would be a spectacular feat in today’s basketball landscape. And even if they fail to accomplish that, it certainly looks like we’re much closer to achieving that than we’ve had in the recent past. Win or lose in the tournament, the SMART-Gilas program should be judged as a resounding success.

For now, though, the mandate remains: win or go home.

The moment of truth is come.:cool:

budz17
09-22-2011, 10:49 AM
even if we don't win the tournament, I hope we win a medal, silver if possible, bronze is okay. at least we will go to the wild card tournament.

the teams there will be significantly better than the ones here, for sure. but if we win a bronze here, then its an indication that we can qualify for the world championship in 2014. I like fiba world championship better than olympics. its a more prestigious basketball tournament for me than the olympic tournament, more teams are involved and the competition is better, and the attention will be solely on basketball, no other sports.

RoadtoLondon
09-22-2011, 11:08 AM
Every tournament, win or lose, came with a caveat. Every high and every low were taken with a grain of salt.

The SEA Games, the Asian Games, the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, the Jones Cup, the PBA second conference — none of those tournaments mattered, truthfully. Their only real value lay in being barometers for how far the SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team had come.

Because the mandate for SMART-Gilas, from the very beginning, was clear: to qualify for the London Games.

And now, in the third year of the three-year program, the time to put up or shut up is finally here.

Marcus Douthit has truly blossomed into the ideal reinforcement for the traditionally height-challenged Philippine national team. His legitimate NBA size translates into easy buckets in the low post, and into a strong defensive presence on the other end. He has earned himself an appropriate nickname — ‘Kuya’ Marcus — both by being physically bigger than the rest of the Filipinos and by providing the steadiness only an experienced older player can.

The bench that has so often looked inadequate when Douthit takes a breather is now bolstered by three PBA Most Valuable Players in Jimmy Alapag, Kelly Williams and Asi Taulava.

The unstable power forward spot, previously filled by the undersized Mac Baracael and the talented but inconsistent Japeth Aguilar, is now reinforced by Williams and Talk ‘N Text teammate Ranidel De Ocampo, who looks tailor-made for the system installed by SMART-Gilas head coach Rajko Toroman.

And the collegiate stars that once defined the SMART-Gilas program are still mostly there; the team chemistry, the familiarity with the system and the experience on the international level all in full display whenever they take the floor together.

Jayvee Casio, the newly-minted first pick of the PBA draft, continues to provide a consistent scoring kick despite his diminutive size. Chris Tiu is still a solid presence in the backcourt; a thinking, steady leader that knows to give what the team requires of him. Mark Barroca still alternates between shaky and absolutely spectacular in his stints at point guard.

Baracael, with the eligibility concerns of teammates Chris Lutz and Marcio Lassiter, was moved to the three-spot, where his size does not put him at a disadvantage. And the talented Aguilar, whose minutes have been reduced with the influx of veteran talent on the team, provides a big spark from off-the-bench in spurts whenever he’s allowed.

Lutz and Lassiter, the 3rd and 4th picks in the 2011 PBA rookie draft, are strong, hard-nosed defenders and quality offensive threats that who give the team a different dimension.

In this tournament, there have been few surprises for SMART-Gilas, having faced the best of Asia so many times in the past. The team maintains a level of familiarity with the Middle Eastern powerhouses, having faced them all – Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Qatar and the others – in battles through the past three years. The East Asian nations got a look-see during the Jones Cup, though Japan has come with a much-stronger team than they did in that tourney.

The level of preparedness for an international competition is at an all-time high for our national team. The talent level, a big question mark during the start of the SMART-Gilas program, might be right up there compared to PBA-backed squads, especially with Douthit manning the paint. All of the weaknesses that critics had pointed to in the past are gone, or at the very least, significantly lessened.

By all indications, former national team head coach Tim Cone might be correct in saying this is the best national team we have ever sent into international competition.

Ultimately, though, even that might not matter. The mandate remains: qualify for the 2012 Olympics. Win or go home.

The program has made great strides since its inception. It has admitted when it was wrong and adjusted when something wasn’t working,

The level of commitment it required from the players — an issue that necessitated hiring collegiate and newly-graduated players — the near-epic amount of preparation, the constant exposure to international play, and the naturalization of a center are all great ideas for the national program that the country should be taking with it moving forward.

And really, that should be the legacy of the SMART-Gilas program, whether or not they win the FIBA Asia Championship for Men. That this here was the first step that returned as to relevancy in Asian basketball. That this here was the move that set us back into right direction.

That if ever the Philippines makes it back into the world stage, this here was where it all began.

SMART-Gilas might not win the tournament where, it should be noted, there is only one guaranteed Olympics slot up for grabs.

Yes, the Philippines performed admirably in the FIBA Asia tilt, winning five of six of games, including a sweep of the tournament’s second round where SMART-Gilas pulled off victories over tough Group C survivors Jordan, Japan and Syria to qualify 2nd in their combined group.

But the SMART-Gilas campaign from this point on will be far from a walk in the park. Qualifying with a higher seed from the group stage allowed them to avoid the top seeds from the opposite group in the quarterfinal, but Chinese-Taipei, a talented team that the Filipinos beat twice in the Jones Cup, will prove to be a tough enough match-up for the Philippines in the last eight.

And if they survive that, a semifinal pairing against powerhouse Iran and their star center Hamed Haddadi looks likely before a possible rematch against China, who dealt SMART-Gilas its lone loss, a 75-60 beatdown in their second game, in the tournament final.

But even if they don’t win, a medal would send them to another tournament, the 2012 World Olympic Qualifying Tournament, where they will face more teams that feature NBA players like Andrei Kirilenko and Timofey Mozgov (Russia), JJ Barea, Charlie Villanueva, Carlos Arroyo and Renaldo Balkman (Puerto Rico), Greivis Vasquez (Venezuela) and Al Horford (Dominican Republic).

And there is no shame in that. A trip to the Olympic qualifiers would be a spectacular feat in today’s basketball landscape. And even if they fail to accomplish that, it certainly looks like we’re much closer to achieving that than we’ve had in the recent past. Win or lose in the tournament, the SMART-Gilas program should be judged as a resounding success.

For now, though, the mandate remains: win or go home.

The moment of truth is come.:cool:

well said bro...those sacrifices of the players have paid off...even if we failed to qualify for the Olympics at least our team tried there best...so many critics and disbeliever but SG prove them wrong...

win or lose i am proud to this team.

potz05
09-23-2011, 12:16 AM
Why do I think they are still having difficulties in differentiating the terms "Naturalized-player" and a" Half-foreign player."

In any way possible it's two different terminologies.

There should be no problems like this if they implement the rules properly as well as know each and every countries laws. There should have been no argument in the fil-foreigners in the Philippines roster if this Fiba-asia officials upped their knowledge about the Philippines constitution in regards to half-born citizens.

GilG
09-23-2011, 03:42 AM
i feel Taipei will have a chance if we have, again, a very bad/slow start (See: Jordan, Japan, Syria)

Else, we'll be cruising to a victory.

Agree with you. It's imperative that we start strong just to put away Taiwan ASAP.

Batman
09-23-2011, 05:16 AM
Every tournament, win or lose, came with a caveat. Every high and every low were taken with a grain of salt.

The SEA Games, the Asian Games, the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, the Jones Cup, the PBA second conference — none of those tournaments mattered, truthfully. Their only real value lay in being barometers for how far the SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team had come.

Because the mandate for SMART-Gilas, from the very beginning, was clear: to qualify for the London Games.

And now, in the third year of the three-year program, the time to put up or shut up is finally here.

Marcus Douthit has truly blossomed into the ideal reinforcement for the traditionally height-challenged Philippine national team. His legitimate NBA size translates into easy buckets in the low post, and into a strong defensive presence on the other end. He has earned himself an appropriate nickname — ‘Kuya’ Marcus — both by being physically bigger than the rest of the Filipinos and by providing the steadiness only an experienced older player can.

The bench that has so often looked inadequate when Douthit takes a breather is now bolstered by three PBA Most Valuable Players in Jimmy Alapag, Kelly Williams and Asi Taulava.

The unstable power forward spot, previously filled by the undersized Mac Baracael and the talented but inconsistent Japeth Aguilar, is now reinforced by Williams and Talk ‘N Text teammate Ranidel De Ocampo, who looks tailor-made for the system installed by SMART-Gilas head coach Rajko Toroman.

And the collegiate stars that once defined the SMART-Gilas program are still mostly there; the team chemistry, the familiarity with the system and the experience on the international level all in full display whenever they take the floor together.

Jayvee Casio, the newly-minted first pick of the PBA draft, continues to provide a consistent scoring kick despite his diminutive size. Chris Tiu is still a solid presence in the backcourt; a thinking, steady leader that knows to give what the team requires of him. Mark Barroca still alternates between shaky and absolutely spectacular in his stints at point guard.

Baracael, with the eligibility concerns of teammates Chris Lutz and Marcio Lassiter, was moved to the three-spot, where his size does not put him at a disadvantage. And the talented Aguilar, whose minutes have been reduced with the influx of veteran talent on the team, provides a big spark from off-the-bench in spurts whenever he’s allowed.

Lutz and Lassiter, the 3rd and 4th picks in the 2011 PBA rookie draft, are strong, hard-nosed defenders and quality offensive threats that who give the team a different dimension.

In this tournament, there have been few surprises for SMART-Gilas, having faced the best of Asia so many times in the past. The team maintains a level of familiarity with the Middle Eastern powerhouses, having faced them all – Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Qatar and the others – in battles through the past three years. The East Asian nations got a look-see during the Jones Cup, though Japan has come with a much-stronger team than they did in that tourney.

The level of preparedness for an international competition is at an all-time high for our national team. The talent level, a big question mark during the start of the SMART-Gilas program, might be right up there compared to PBA-backed squads, especially with Douthit manning the paint. All of the weaknesses that critics had pointed to in the past are gone, or at the very least, significantly lessened.

By all indications, former national team head coach Tim Cone might be correct in saying this is the best national team we have ever sent into international competition.

Ultimately, though, even that might not matter. The mandate remains: qualify for the 2012 Olympics. Win or go home.

The program has made great strides since its inception. It has admitted when it was wrong and adjusted when something wasn’t working,

The level of commitment it required from the players — an issue that necessitated hiring collegiate and newly-graduated players — the near-epic amount of preparation, the constant exposure to international play, and the naturalization of a center are all great ideas for the national program that the country should be taking with it moving forward.

And really, that should be the legacy of the SMART-Gilas program, whether or not they win the FIBA Asia Championship for Men. That this here was the first step that returned as to relevancy in Asian basketball. That this here was the move that set us back into right direction.

That if ever the Philippines makes it back into the world stage, this here was where it all began.

SMART-Gilas might not win the tournament where, it should be noted, there is only one guaranteed Olympics slot up for grabs.

Yes, the Philippines performed admirably in the FIBA Asia tilt, winning five of six of games, including a sweep of the tournament’s second round where SMART-Gilas pulled off victories over tough Group C survivors Jordan, Japan and Syria to qualify 2nd in their combined group.

But the SMART-Gilas campaign from this point on will be far from a walk in the park. Qualifying with a higher seed from the group stage allowed them to avoid the top seeds from the opposite group in the quarterfinal, but Chinese-Taipei, a talented team that the Filipinos beat twice in the Jones Cup, will prove to be a tough enough match-up for the Philippines in the last eight.

And if they survive that, a semifinal pairing against powerhouse Iran and their star center Hamed Haddadi looks likely before a possible rematch against China, who dealt SMART-Gilas its lone loss, a 75-60 beatdown in their second game, in the tournament final.

But even if they don’t win, a medal would send them to another tournament, the 2012 World Olympic Qualifying Tournament, where they will face more teams that feature NBA players like Andrei Kirilenko and Timofey Mozgov (Russia), JJ Barea, Charlie Villanueva, Carlos Arroyo and Renaldo Balkman (Puerto Rico), Greivis Vasquez (Venezuela) and Al Horford (Dominican Republic).

And there is no shame in that. A trip to the Olympic qualifiers would be a spectacular feat in today’s basketball landscape. And even if they fail to accomplish that, it certainly looks like we’re much closer to achieving that than we’ve had in the recent past. Win or lose in the tournament, the SMART-Gilas program should be judged as a resounding success.

For now, though, the mandate remains: win or go home.

The moment of truth is come.:cool:

We'll said my friend! Hands down...

M Sindo
09-23-2011, 08:07 AM
I can't believe it :eek: Congrats Jordan!

Avician
09-23-2011, 08:45 AM
Congrats Jordan! See you in Semi-Finals

RedMetal
09-23-2011, 09:17 AM
Goodluck Team Pilipinas!:)

Focus! Lassiter



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Avician
09-23-2011, 09:21 AM
Goodluck Team Pilipinas!:)

Focus! Lassiter



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Not only him but also Kelly, Douhit, Tiu, Barroca, alapag, Baracael, Ranidel, Lutz, Asi, JV, And most Specially JAPHET!!

leb-basket
09-23-2011, 09:33 AM
congrats jordan!! way to go!!!!! great result! for sure u will reach the finals!

Pandesal
09-23-2011, 09:56 AM
I salute Jordan for slaying the Giants. WOW!

The ball truly is round.

usausa
09-23-2011, 10:05 AM
This is the Philippines chance, they must capitalize!

aymanxp
09-23-2011, 02:27 PM
JOR/IRI – Jordan slay the giant!

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WUHAN (FIBA Asia Championship) – Sam Daghles and Jordan have created the upset of the FIBA Asia Championship, defeating Iran 88-84 to knock out the two-time defending champions and take one giant step towards the London Olympics.

Daghles was incredible, collecting 23 points, five assists, four rebounds and three steals in 37 minutes.
Zaid Alkhas (14 points, 4/7 three-pointers), the pair of Rasheim Wright and Wesam Al-Sous (12 points each) as well as Zaid Abbas (10 points, 7 rebounds) were also strong contributors.

Hamed Hadadi was outstanding for Iran with 27 points, 14 rebounds and seven assists, and while Mahdi Kamrany (14 points), Arsalen Kazemi (13 points, 16 rebounds) andHamed Afagh (12 points) all played well, Iran simply didn’t match the disciplined execution of Jordan over the 40 minutes.

Iran led 17-11 after seven minutes, but it was only Jordan’s poor conversion that allowed such a lead, so when Daghles sparked his team’s dangerous running game Jordan unleashed a 9-2 run to finish the quarter.

Baskets to Alkhas and Abbas started the second quarter, and when Alkhas nailed his first three-pointer of the tournament the score was 28-22.

Iran gradually pegged the lead back despite their poor free-throw shooting, and a spurt from Kazemi to end the term gave the defending champions a 36-35 half time lead.

A Wright-Abbas fastbreak turned into a three-point play to start the third quarter, and when Abbas soared down the middle for a one-handed slam the margin was back out to six points. Afagh responded with two straight three-pointers and the flow of the quarter had been established.

Only Abbas going to the bench with his fourth foul, and two sweet triples from Afagh allowed Iran to edge to a 62-57 lead at the last break.
Two Hadadi baskets on offensive rebounds to open the final period saw Iran take control, leading 71-64 with six minutes to play.
But two enormous triples from Al-Sous led a two minute Jordanian charge to cut the margin to one point.

With 2:30 to play an Enver Soobzokov floater put Jordan in front, only for Hadadi to respond immediately.
Alkhas wasn’t done though, nailing a clutch three to put Jordan back in the lead.

When Hadadi committed an open court unsportsmanlike foul with 33 seconds remaining Daghles extended the lead to four.

Daghles coolly made 6/8 free throws to seal the victory and Jordan celebrated on court like it was 1999!

Jordan will next face the winner of Chinese Taipei and the Philippines in the Semi-Finals.


Paulo Kennedy
FIBA
23/09/2011

aymanxp
09-23-2011, 02:31 PM
JOR – Daghles, basketball junkie inspires Jordan

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WUHAN (FIBA Asia Championship) – Sam Daghlesloves playing in China. Last season he dominated the Chinese Basketball Association (CBA) with an impressive 14 double-doubles as he averaged 15.7 points and 9.1 assists per game for Shanxi Zhongyu.

He has carried that form into the FIBA Asia Championship in Wuhan, averaging 15.3 points, 4.3 rebounds and 4.8 assists per game, but most importantly producing an amazing 23 points, five assists, four rebounds, three steals performance to lead Jordan past Iran in the Quarter-Finals in the most stunning of upsets.

Jordan were 3-3 in the tournament and had lost all their major tests against Japan,China and the Philippines.
Iran, the two-time defending champions were 6-0 with an average winning margin of over 50 points.

Daghles started the job with his daring open court play in the first quarter and finished the job by hitting six free-throws in the final stages. A very happy point guard spoke to fiba.com after the win.

FIBA: Sam, congratulations. How did you do it, how did you beat Iran?
Daghles: I think it was motivation. We spoke some very touching words before the game and as players we wanted to come together. We hadn’t done that over the first six days, and we owed it to our fans, we owed it to our country to come out and get this game.

We knew coming in it was a (knockout) Quarter-Final, and Iran would be feeling the pressure more than us. They needed to win more than we needed to win, so we saw it as a 50/50 chance. We wanted to go out and execute coach’s plan, we knew if we executed it absolutely to a T we would win, and we did.

FIBA: Coach Baldwin has been around a long time and had some great wins in international basketball. What was his plan for Iran?
Daghles: Yes he has! What people don’t know about him is he’s such a basketball junkie. He spends so much time analysing film, working out how to beat teams. We had a meeting with an hour and a half of film last night, we had an hour of film before the game, we broke down Iran every way we could break them down, and then we did it (on court). Finally we showed coach Baldwin’s style, where unfortunately in the past we hadn’t shown that style because we had been too focused on other dumb stuff. Today we put all that other stuff aside and it paid off.

FIBA: What it is like for you and the team playing under Tab Baldwin?
Daghles: I’ve been blessed to play for some great coaches, and for the federation to hire another great coach I was thankful. He’s taught me a lot, both mentally and how to see the games. People think when you get to 30 or 31 you can’t learn any more. You can learn, you can always get better, and that’s what he has provided me.

FIBA: We hadn’t really seen the real Jordan before today, only for five or six minutes at a time. Was that lack of consistency and performance weighing in the back of your mind?
Daghles: It was, that’s why I had a talk with the guys before the game. I said ‘this is not our basketball, this is not Jordan. We have been to the world championship, we have an expectation to play up to and we need to perform that way.’ Credit to the guys they put it together and we finally put a complete game together.

FIBA: Can your team come down from this high in time for the Semi-Finals?
Daghles: I don’t think we’ve even got time to be on that high. We are thinking about the Philippines already. We had a meeting in the locker room and said move on from this game and get ready for the next one.

FIBA: What do you know about them?
DAGHLES: We’ve been playing them for a while now, the Philippines we have played four times already this year. We lost to them the first time (in the Second Round) so if we get them again it will be kind of be a payback thing.

Paulo Kennedy

FIBA

Bad_Shot
09-23-2011, 08:20 PM
I think philippines will have a hard time in the semis. The way the jordans played against iran today is tremendous. But i think philippines will by 5+ tomorrow...:)

analyzed
09-23-2011, 11:02 PM
The game against Jordan will be a classic coaches match up. Tad Baldwin who I met previously. is a master of upsets. This is not the first time he coached a team to a huge upset. You have to remember this is a guy who brought NZ with less talented players to the semis of 2002 world basketball championships, in the process even outplacing the NBA US dream team. The Tall blacks (NZ team) beat more talented teams , Russia and Puerto Rico before loosing to Yugoslavia in the semis.
Baldwin is a master tactician , one of his favourite plays (surprise attacks) is using a power forward in NZ case (Pero Cameron) as a decoy screener only to step out to hit a three. He did something similar with Jordan's upset of Iran, using big man Alkhas who had'nt hit a 3 point shot priior to the Iran game to hit 4 out 7 threes late in the game.
I'm sure Tad has something in store for the Philippines , and coach Toroman and staff have to watch out for this.
One of the strategies he had for Iran is he let Edihadi score one and one , while he shut dowon everyone else, specifically their perimter shooters. Will he do the same with Doulthit and the Philippines. Remember even if Doulthit was scoring early against Tiapei the Philippines was still behind, it was only when the perimeter scorers started connecting did the game open up.
The Philippines has to rely less on Doulthit and get others involved. you can bet Bet Baldwin will close out on the shooters and let Doulthit get his way inside single coverage, if doulthit scores 30 so be it. Which I think will hurt the philippines in the long run , as Doulthit will eventually tire out. and by that time the perimeter players might not have the confidence to create and score for themselves. That will be the key to the game

sano99
09-24-2011, 12:55 AM
Pilipinas will still be the underdog in the semis games. Lets not forget that. It will be the team that has the big heart and the more hungry would win this game.

rocketstar47
09-24-2011, 01:00 AM
i hope we can qualify in the finals and if it happens i hope we can
handle the giants of either china and korea

JAMSKIE
09-24-2011, 02:05 AM
Congrats 4 the win vs. Taiwan last nayt! It was a very crucial game 4 Smart Gilas & our team really played very well in the 2nd half 2 set the game beyond the reach of d Taiwanese.

Now that Gilas is in the semis, we might as well aspire 4 a finals appearance as we play Jordan today in d semis.

Good luck Smart Gilas Team Pilipinas! Let us continue praying 4 d team. whatever happens, I will also d team, win or lose. U can count on it!

Bobbyd
09-24-2011, 02:06 AM
Pilipinas will still be the underdog in the semis games. Lets not forget that. It will be the team that has the big heart and the more hungry would win this game.


I don't think the Philippines will be the underdog in this game. Yes Jordan did have a big win over Iran yesterday. But they have also had losses to Japan, China, and the Philippines as well. There is a reason the Philippines was the number 2 seed and Jordan the number 4 seed coming out of group F. I also think that Jordan will be emotionally as well as physically spent after there huge win against Iran. It will be very difficult to summon that same type of energy 2 days in a row.

JAMSKIE
09-24-2011, 02:39 AM
I don't think the Philippines will be the underdog in this game. Yes Jordan did have a big win over Iran yesterday. But they have also had losses to Japan, China, and the Philippines as well. There is a reason the Philippines was the number 2 seed and Jordan the number 4 seed coming out of group F. I also think that Jordan will be emotionally as well as physically spent after there huge win against Iran. It will be very difficult to summon that same type of energy 2 days in a row.

Agree! Jordan's top players must be drained & exhausted from yesterday's game. Rasheem Wright & Sam Daghles played almost without relief yesterday. Marcus Douthit may had also logging major minutes 4 Gilas but coach Rajko Toroman gives him even a brief rest in each game. Added 2 that, I believe our team has a deeper line than Jordan.

Anyway, good luck to our team today. Lets pray for the success of the team!

zoman114
09-24-2011, 03:12 AM
DAY 7 OF THE 2011 FIBA-ASIA MEN'S TOURNEY

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES over MALAYSIA, 89-87
UAE 89 - Al-Zaabi 21, Al-Hattawi 20, Ahmad 16, Salem 9, Al-Braiki 8, Abdalla 6, Banihammad 4, Al-Sari 3, Ahmed 2
MAS 87 - Chee 18, Loh 15, Lau 12, Soo 11, Batumalai 11, Ng 8, Kwaan 8, Wee 2, Kuek 2, Ooi 0
QS: 24-23, 37-38, 64-59, 89-87
- This was a tight one all throughout, but a 14-1 run to the end the 3rd frame enabled UAE to turn a deficit into enough of a cushion to hold off the Malaysians in the final period. Shee Fai Loh actually hit two straight threes in the final 30 seconds to cut a 7-point gap to just 1, but the Malaysians just weren't able to get over the hump. UAE played good defense, too, forcing 19 Malaysian turnovers while the Malaysians committed too many fouls, which resulted in 30 Emirate free throw attempts.
- Rashed Al-Zaabi led UAE with 21 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists. He was supported by big man Ali Al-Hattawi's 20 points, 6 boards, 4 steals and 4 triples as well as 16 markers and 4 more treys from Ibrahim Ahmad. UAE's next game is against Syria to decide who gets the 9th & 10th places.
- Li Wei Chee was a tower of power for Malaysia, finishing with 18 points, 19 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 blocks. Guga Batumalai had another all-around performance with 11 markers, 7 dimes and 5 boards, but he committed 4 turnovers. Shee Fai Loh, meanwhile, hit 3 triples to end up with 15 points. Malaysia battles Uzbekistan again for the 11th & 12th spots.


SYRIA over UZBEKISTAN, 97-65
SYR 97 - Abboud 13, Al-Hamowi 12, Al-Saman 11, Georges 11, Nalbandian 9, Al-Khatib 9, Osfira 9, Lubus 8, Daks 8, Deeb 7, Kasaballi 0
UZB 65 - Kozlov 14, Nuraliev 13, Belokurov 11, Juginisov 7, Pereverzev 7, Zinonev 6, Denisov 5, Yahin 2, Timofev 0
QS: 11-21, 32-46, 47-70, 65-97
- A 9-0 run in the 1st quarter enabled Syria to get some separation that turned out to be enough to keep the Uzbeks at bay for the rest of the game. The Syrians never trailed on their way to win #3, thanks mainly to better rebounding, playmaking and outside shooting.
- Seldom-used Joseph Abboud turned out to be the scoring leader here, making all 13 of his points so far in the tournament. Eder Georges dominated again with a double-double statline of 11 markers and 12 rebounds while Abdulwahab Al-Hamowi scored a dozen in just 13 minutes. Syria plays for 9th place against UAE next.
- Aleksandr Kozlov returned from not playing in the previous game to lead Uzbekistan's losing effort with 14 points, but he hardly did anything else. The Uzbeks were pounded down low and weren't able to compensate with anything else as Syria kept up the pressure with every possession. The former Soviets now have a rematch with the Malaysians for 11th place.


JORDAN over IRAN, 88-84
JOR 88 - Dahglas 23, Al-Khas 14, Wright 12, Al-Sous 12, Abbas 10, Zaghab 7, Soobzokov 4, Hussein 2, Abu Ruqayah 2, Abbaas 2
IRI 84 - Haddadi 27, Kamrani 14, Kazemi 13, Afagh 12, Sahakian 9, Bahrami 8, Davarpanah 1, Davoudi 0, Atashi 0
QS: 20-19, 35-36, 57-62, 88-84
- Unless someone upsets the Chinese in the next two days, then this will be seen as THE upset of the tournament. It's not that Jordan is a subpar team (they're a great team), but it's just that Iran has been so dominant in its first 6 games that nobody really thought they'd bow out of the championship in this fashion. Iran let Jordan stick too close for too long and they paid for it at the end as the breaks went the way of coach Tab Baldwin's boys. Curiously, Jordan turned to its reserves to spark the endgame run as old-as-time veteran Zaid Al-Khas, sniper Wesam Al-Sous, and the wily Enver Soobzokov hit big shots that kept the Iranians at bay.
- Sam Dahglas led Jordan with an incredible line of 23 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 3 steals. His 6-of-8 shooting from the stripe helped seal the improbable win for the Jordanians, who return to the semifinals through the back door. Zaid Al-Khas and Wesam Al-Sous were big lifts off the bench, nailing 4 triples each to deflate the Iranian three-peat hopes. In the way of Jordan's plans are the Filipinos, who beat Taiwan in their own quarterfinals match.
- This is only Iran's first loss of the whole competition, but it's enough to propel them down the standings and relegate them to the battle for 5th-8th places. Coach Veselin Matic opted to use a tight 9-man rotation here, with Samad Nikkhah Bahrami used only in the 2nd half. Hamed Haddadi and Arsalan Kazemi both had double-doubles, combining for 40 points, 30 rebounds and 4 blocks. Their performance wasn't enough to quell Jordan's stellar uprising, though. The Iranians missed some key shots late in the game and were just outplayed in crunch time by the hungrier Jordanians. Iran arranges a rematch with Taiwan next.


SOUTH KOREA over JAPAN, 86-67
KOR 86 - Stevenson 17, Oh 15, Ha 14, Cho 13, Kim JS 11, Park 6, Lee 3, Yang HJ 3, Kang 2, Kim JK 2
JPN 67 - Takeuchi K 16, Matsui 10, Amino 10, Hirose 9, Shonaka 8, Sakurai 5, Takeuchi J 4, Kawamura 3, Ota 2, Takeda 0, Ishizaki 0, Kashiwagi 0
QS: 23-11, 45-26, 65-52, 86-67
- What was billed as the marquee match-up of the quarterfinals turned out to be a humdrum affair. The Koreans never trailed in this one and were never really threatened after uncorking an 8-0 run to help balloon a 17-11 advantage to a sizable 25-11 lead. Japan never recovered after that and the result was decided long before the final buzzer sounded. One cause for concern for the Koreans, however, is the status of star PG Yang Dong-Geun, who sat out the whole game. This could mean he's still injured from the last match with Iran, or he's being saved for their next match against China.
- The Koreans scorched the nets again from downtown, with Jarod Stevenson, Cho Sung-Min and Park Chan-Hee each hitting at least 2 treys. Stevenson led the way with 17 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists. Coach Hur Jae's frontline did well, too, as Kim Joo-Sung, Ha Seung-Jin and Oh Se-Keun all combined for 40 markers, 18 boards and 12 dimes. Korea advances to the Final 4 against the heavily-favored home squad, China.
- Japan takes its 3rd straight defeat after starting the competition 4-0. The result is they face the Lebanese in the relegation games to decide 5th-8th spots. Hot shooting Takuya Kawamura was silenced here, finishing with just 3 points on 1-of-8 shooting. Kosuke Takeuchi led the fight for Japan with 16 markers, 13 boards and 2 rejections, but hardly anyone else figured prominently. Twin brother Joji played under 10 minutes as the rib injury he suffered against the Chinese continued to hound him.


PHILIPPINES over TAIWAN, 95-78
PHL 95 - Douthit 37, De Ocampo 18, Lassiter 13, Casio 8, Alapag 8, Taulava 4, Tiu 4, Barroca 2, Williams 1, Lutz 0
TPE 78 - Tseng 20, Chen HA 14, Lu 12, Lin 10, Wu 9, Mao 6, Chang 3, Chien 2, Lee 2, Su 0
QS: 19-23, 45-42, 70-57, 95-78
- The dream is still alive for the Filipinos as they came back from another first half deficit to eliminate the Taiwanese from championship contention. Down by as many as 9 points in the 2nd frame, the Philippines, behind JV Casio and Ranidel De Ocampo, engineered a roaring comeback to snatch the lead at intermission. And as in previous games, the Pinoys were at their best in the 3rd period, using a 16-6 run to break the game open and cruise to the semifinals. The Filipino lead stood highest at 19 before the Taiwanese made their own run in the final canto to try and make things more exciting. Taiwanese PG Lee Hsueh-Lin was taken out after playing 18 minutes as he was bloodied after accidentally colliding heads with Casio.
- Marcus Douthit, nicknamed "Kuya" or "Big Brother", came through again with 37 points and 10 rebounds. De Ocampo and Marcio Lassiter ably supported him with a combined 31 points, 13 rebounds and 5 assists. As expected, the Filipinos dominated the inside scoring and surprisingly had a better percentage from three-point area as well. The Pinoys are set to face Jordan in the semifinals.
- Taiwan wasted a spirited start and waned in the 2nd half. Tseng Wen-Ting was solid down low with 20 points and 5 rebounds, but he fouled out mid-4th quarter. Chen Hsin-An contributed 14 markers, but most of those were in the first 20 minutes of play. Lin Chih-Chieh and Lu Cheng-Ju combined for 22 points and 5 triples, but they hit their shots when Taiwan was playing major catch-up already. They face the Iranians next and could fall as far as 8th depending on the results of the next two days.


CHINA over LEBANON, 68-48
CHN 68 - Liu 13, Yi J 12, Wang 12, Zhang Z 8, Yi L 5, Sun 5, Su 4, Ding 3, Zhang B 3, Yu 3, Xirelijiang 0
LIB 48 - Hoskin 20, Reda 15, Tabet 5, Abdel Nour 4, Akl 4, Martinez 0, Stephan 0, Kanaan 0, Bawji 0, Ibrahim 0
QS: 14-12, 28-22, 51-32, 68-48
- For 20 minutes, it seemed like Lebanon would make a game of it, but the Chinese got really serious in the 2nd half and made minced meat of Lebanon's defense. China outrebounded Lebanon and played much better defense in the last 2 quarters, limiting the WABA powerhouse to just 28% shooting from the floor by the end of the match.
- Liu Wei led China's attack with 13 points while big men Yi Jianlian and Wang Zhizhi each contributed a dozen in limited playing time. As expected, China goes through to the Final Four and faces EABA rival South Korea for a berth in the Championship game. China beat Korea in last year's Asian Games and they look to repeat as they continue their quest to return to the Olympics.
- Naturalized big man Sam Hoskin had another good showing here, scoring 20 points and grabbing 10 rebounds. Ghaleb Reda also played well, earning 15 markers despite shooting just 6-of-21 from the field. Nobody else scored more than 5 points for the hapless Lebanese, who now go down to the relegation round against Japan.

Bernard
09-24-2011, 09:07 AM
amazing game jordan philipines....

congrats for both teams ... specially jordan for their historical achievement!!!

Long Live Lebanon!!(Except All the Politicians!!)

Batman
09-24-2011, 09:11 AM
Jordan goes to the finals after outsmarting our very own Smart Gilas Pilipinas in their semifinal duel. SGP's last chance of qualifying in the London Games 2012 will be to finish 3rd as they will wait the losing team in the China-South Korea. Pagkasayang sa oportunidad nga gihatag sa Kahitas-an pero saludo gihapon mi ninyo sa inyong gipakita! Kudos to our Smart Gilas Pilipinas! Go job Jordan!

merps baller the return
09-24-2011, 09:20 AM
lets beat the koreans tomorrow, payback time!:cool:

JAMSKIE
09-24-2011, 10:16 AM
Jordan goes to the finals after outsmarting our very own Smart Gilas Pilipinas in their semifinal duel. SGP's last chance of qualifying in the London Games 2012 will be to finish 3rd as they will wait the losing team in the China-South Korea. Pagkasayang sa oportunidad nga gihatag sa Kahitas-an pero saludo gihapon mi ninyo sa inyong gipakita! Kudos to our Smart Gilas Pilipinas! Go job Jordan!

I agree w/ U! A semifinals finish is already a BIG acomplishment 4 us considering that we didn't make it to d semis since the 1985 edition of this tournament w/c was then known as the Asian Basketball Confederation Men's Championships.

W/ this semifinals finish, I think we had earned the respect of our asian counterparts & could serve as momentum 4 further improvement of Philippine basketball. Hope this success by the Smart Gilas program would be an eye-opener to various parties concerned & would initiate 4 a much better & more comprehensive basketball program not just in d senior level but in d grassroots level as well.

Also, I strongly believe that our semifinals finish in Wuhan should convince d Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas & Mr. MVP to retain coach Rajko Toroman as head coach of team Pilipinas. I think Toroman proved himself in this tournament as the type of coach that we really need to have a decent finish. Lets be reasonable & logical, coach Toroman turned things around for Phi. Basketball, the same way coach Freddie Roach turned things around 4 Manny Pacquiao.

Toroman knows what international basketball is all about d same way Roach knows professional boxing.
So my clamor 2 SBP & to Mr. MVP, let us retain coach RAJKO TOROMAN as our National team coach! And let us continue the program!

zainonly
09-24-2011, 10:24 AM
Jordan team win the naturalization of the Philippines

The eye is not superior to the brow

Cryotek
09-24-2011, 10:29 AM
If Korea upset China tonight, I guess the Phils. will just settle for a 4th place finish in Wuhan!;)

analyzed
09-24-2011, 10:53 AM
It is very simple to see why the Philippines lost , when your shooters
Lasssiter zero out of 10 in 35 minutes
Tiu zero out of 5 in 25 min
Alapag zero out of 6 in 15 min

You really have zero % chance of winning.

I've said from the beginning that the shooting consistency of our wing players is a big concern, I knew they could have one or two big games , but to consistently make shots was a concern. I have been proven right. hopefuly at least one or two of the players mentioned above has a decent game tomorrow or else again we have zero % chance of winning

Cryotek
09-24-2011, 11:06 AM
It is very simple to see why the Philippines lost , when your shooters
Lasssiter zero out of 10 in 35 minutes
Tiu zero out of 5 in 25 min
Alapag zero out of 6 in 15 min

You really have zero % chance of winning.

I've said from the beginning that the shooting consistency of our wing players is a big concern, I knew they could have one or two big games , but to consistently make shots was a concern. I have been proven right. hopefuly at least one or two of the players mentioned above has a decent game tomorrow or else again we have zero % chance of winning

+100000

RP team cannot rely solely in Douthit in the post for the whole game...the really need to shoot well from the outside for this kind of competition! The 3 pts shots made by Jordan gave them the edge in the 4th canto, thats the turning point, again its the 3pt shooting that can win a ballgame!

yvesjade
09-24-2011, 01:47 PM
Jordan team win the naturalization of the Philippines

The eye is not superior to the brow

You don't have any idea about Philippine Law. STFU

ankle breaker
09-24-2011, 01:59 PM
It's confirmed, China beat Korea 56-43. China will battle Jordan for the right to directly represent asia in London 2014. Gilas will have to battle Korea for bronze. Hopefully luck will be in Gilas side as RP haven't won against Korea in previous encounters.

Cryotek
09-24-2011, 02:01 PM
It's confirmed, China beat Korea 56-43. China will battle Jordan for the right to directly represent asia in London 2014. Gilas will have to battle Korea for bronze. Hopefully luck will be in Gilas side as RP haven't won against Korea in previous encounters.

When was the last time we have beaten a Korean team??:confused::rolleyes:

oaba09
09-24-2011, 02:09 PM
When was the last time we have beaten a Korean team??:confused::rolleyes:

The memory of the 2002 asian games still haunts me....If only olsen made those 2 free throws...

macan77
09-24-2011, 02:31 PM
When was the last time we have beaten a Korean team??:confused::rolleyes:

tomorrow..:cool:Sept. 25, 2011

Avician
09-24-2011, 03:12 PM
All I can say is mabuhay ang smart gilas!!! This boys give everything and we Filipinos should be proud of them. Not everyone can win and this year is not our time. Just wait and we will also be there on top. Anyway, congratulations to Jordan. They deserve to win

aymanxp
09-24-2011, 06:17 PM
Jordan outsmart Philippines, close in on Olympic debut

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WUHAN (FIBA Asia Championship) – Jordan have produced another mastermind performance to book a place in the FIBA Asia Championship Final and move within a win from their first-ever appearance at an Olympic Games.

Islam Abbaas led a strong team defensive performance that held Marcus Douthit, the tournament’s leading scorer, to just nine points in the second half, and closed down thePhilippines running game.

At the other end, Rasheim Wright scored 14 points in the first half when his team was ice cold, before finishing with 24, then Sam Daghles stood up in the second half, delivering 14 points, four assists and a tempo perfectly to his team’s liking as they suffocated the Philippines to claim a 75-61 victory.

Zaid Abbas added 14 points for Jordan, while Joseph Casio (15 points) provided lone support for Douthit, who compiled 21 points, 15 rebounds and three assists.
Jordan coach Tab Baldwin was pleased his team hung tough in what was an arm wrestle for the best part of 40 minutes.
“Our offensive never really settled into anything that looked great, but it was enough and our defense was really, really good,” he said.

Abbas thought it was once again a matter of discipline and sticking to the plan.
“We respected them, we didn’t think they would be an easy team,” he said. “We played the game as coach had planned for it and we won.”
Where Jordan were hot in the Quarter-Finals, they started ice cold in this game, committing seven turnovers and going 0/4 from the three-point line in the first quarter. With Douthit dominating inside with nine points, only Jordan’s switching defense managed to keep them within reach at the first break, trailing 18-12.

With Abbas and Daghles both on two fouls early in the second period and the Philippines leading by six points things looked ominous for Jordan, but their reserves stepped up on the defensive end, keeping their opponents scoreless for over five minutes to only trail 28-27 at halftime.

At the offensive end the brilliance of Wright kept Jordan’s score ticking over, albeit slowly, shooting at 45% as his team shot just 32%. The Philippines struggles were even greater, hitting just 26% of their attempts.

After another tense struggle for the first five minutes of the third quarter, Jordan’s discipline in maintaining a slow tempo to strangle the free-flowing Philippines started to pay off, an 8-2 run giving them a 46-39 advantage.

When Wright got his 20th point on the three quarter time buzzer, the margin was eight points and the Philippines desperately needed something to change the momentum.

An unsportsmanlike foul on Jordan’s Abdalla Abuqoura did just that, as three points from that play, a tip jam from Kelly Williams and Douthit’s second basket of the half brought the score to 49-48 with 6:36 to play.

Abbas responded with a clever basket inside, then he and Daghles hit three straight triples between them to blow the margin out to 12.
From there Daghles controlled the tempo and Jordan nailed their free-throws to set up their first appearance in a FIBA Asia Championship final.
Philippines forward Williams was a shattered man after the game, but knew his team has to regroup to play for the bronze medal and a place at the FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament.
“Obviously Jordan came ready,” he said. “They know us, know our plays well and they had one up on us in terms of us beating them in the first round.

“We can’t hang our heads on the progress we have made. We think we have done Philippine basketball proud but we still have a chance to win a medal, and that’s something to look forward to.”

Paulo Kennedy

FIBA

aymanxp
09-24-2011, 06:19 PM
Jordan outwit, outplay and finally outscore Philippines

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WUHAN, China (26th FIBA Asia Championship): The Jordanian National team – known popularly as Al Nashama – showed enough character, courage, conviction and most importantly capabilities to live true to its nickname and carved out a 75-61 win against Philippines that put the WABA team in its first ever FIBA Asia Championship final.
“This is the biggest moment of my life,” gushed Rasheim Wright (No 5 in the pic above), a catalyst for Jordan’s success in the last couple of years, who led the team’s scoring for the night with a 22-point game.
Sam Daghles and Zaid Abbas (dunking in the pic above), as popular among the Chinese fans as they would be in Amman, exploded into cracker performance in the fourth quarter to take the game away completely from a Filipino outfit that looked far from the enthusiastic combination they had been in the tournament so far.
Simply out, Jordan had just outwitted, outsmarted, outplayed and outscored the Philippines.

Daghles scored 10 of his 16 points for the game and Abbas accounted for half his 14 points, in the fourth quarter to propel Jordan forward.
The two combined together – three times from the perimeter along with Abbas’ fast-break lay-up – to effect a 11-0 run just after the midway mark of the fourth quarter that sealed the issue in Tab Baldwin’s favor.
“There are no words to describe our feelings,” said Wright.
“Two years ago, we came very close to making the final, but couldn’t had to be content with the bronze. This time around we have proven to the world the stuff we are made of,” the naturalized American said.
“I’ve never been more excited in my entire coaching career,” said Baldwin.
“To me, Philippines and Iran posed similar challenges. We had to take their big guy (Marcus Douhtit) out like how we did with Haddadi. And we stopped their guards well,” Baldwin said.
“We shot miserably,” rued Philippines coach Rajko Toroman.
“Jordan were the better team on the floor and they deserved to win,” he added.
“We’ll fight to win a medal now.”

FIBA Asia

aymanxp
09-24-2011, 06:21 PM
Baldwin : Sam’s words were truly inspirational

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WUHAN, China (26th FIBA Asia Championship):
“I had a dream couple of days ago that my team would play the final. Didn’t really know that the dream would come true this soon,” said Jordan coach Tab Baldwin as he opened his thoughts after taking the WABA team to its first ever gold medal game in a FIBA Asia Championship.

“To have the wonderful opportunity and the privilege of playing in the final of the FIBA Asia Championship is a great thing.

“I’m really really thrilled. Among all the stages that I’ve been in my coaching career, I’ve not been as excited as I am now,” Baldwin said.

“I was really nervous before the game today because I really wanted my players to have the experience of playing the final.”
“I think most of the credit should go to Sam (Daghles) who came up with an inspired speech before yesterday’s game. I’ve been in more than 100 locker rooms in my life. I haven’t come across many locker-room player pep talks like this,” Baldwin praised his star guard.
Talismanic guard Sam Daghles said: “This is a great moment of my life. To be a part of this team is a fantastic experience.”
“I think we still have work left,” Daghles said.
“This time has gone through a lot of up and down. But I know this team can stand and deliver when it matters.”
Guard Rasheim Wright who had a game-high 22 points said: “We came to close last time. And then we came third.”
“We came into the game knowing we’ve been here before and we need to better. We started off a little sloppy because we still had butterflies in our stomach. But as the minutes went by confidence kicked in and experience took over.”
“I think the key was that we approached the game and thought about the game as a team and always listened in to each other.”
“We just took over from where we left yesterday and it was a roll.”
“We are in the final man,” veteran Zaid Alkhas beamed.
FIBA Asia

aymanxp
09-24-2011, 06:25 PM
It’s a ‘Tab Vs. Bob’ show… for gold and the ticket to London!


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WUHAN, China (26th FIBA Asia Championship): Call it the David Vs. Goliath; call it red hot favorite hosts Vs. unfancied underdogs; call it by another analogy as you please. The Jordan Vs. China clash for the gold medal on Sunday – and the lone automatic qualifying spot for the London Olympics from FIBA Asia – is an encounter even the most clairvoyant among us wouldn’t have dared to bet on.
On the one side we have China, under coach Bob Donewald, showing tremendous floor power and have overpowered all their eight rivals so far – including Jordan in a Second Round Group F game – without raising much sweat.
On the other are Jordan, who began without much hope, but have some played exemplary basketball in the play-offs winning when the odds, and the expectations, were against them. Beating time tested combinations like twice defending champions Iran in the quarterfinals and the effervescent Philippines in the semifinals has shown that the Al Nashama have the courage, character and conviction to prove their nickname right.
Can Jordan breach the Great Wall of China, especially with there being no doubts about which team around 10,000 throats will be cheering for?
“I’m glad they had a tough time tonight,” said Jordan coach Tab Baldwin after China’s semifinal win against Korea.
“Also I don’t have to meet the expectations of a billion people,” Baldwin said.
For Jordan though, the entry into the final is an achievement in itself with the team winning the bronze medal at the 25th FIBA Asia Championship at Tianjin two years ago.
“It’s like this. Two years ago nobody took us seriously as a medal contender. We proved ourselves by finishing with the bronze,” says Jordan’s talismanic guard Sam Daghles who confesses to be playing the best basketball of his life for the Jordan National Team.
“Here too not many people gave us a chance. But here we are playing the gold medal game,” he said.
Daghles’ coach Baldwin was even vocal.
“We are not finished yet. I think this team has more to deliver. China are strong favorites, but so were Iran and Philippines,” said Baldwin who became famous for leading the New Zealand National Team to a stunning win over Australia in the 2001 FIBA Oceania Championship and then to the semifinals in the 2002 FIBA World Championship.
China coach Bob Donewald Jr. was aware of the dangers of an opponent like Jordan.
“When the Jordan game got over last time, I told their coach ‘I’ll see you in the final’,” Donewald said.
“We have a very difficult game ahead of us,” he added.
“They have some great ball players,” said Donewald who coached Jordan spearhead Zaid Abbas at Shanghai Sharks in the 2009-10 CBA season.
“We respect all opponents. But we are ready for them,” he assured the fans.
China gun for their 15th FIBA Asia Championship title, a record already, but haunted by the memory of losing to Iran in the gold medal game at Tianjin – the first time they lost a gold medal game.
Historically, Jordan have beaten China only once – at the 24th FIBA Asia Championship at Tokushima in 2007, when China having already qualified for the 2008 Beijing Olympics had sent their second string team – in their seven meeting so far in FIBA Asia Championship, but then there will be very little respect for those stats when the tip off happens at 2000 Hrs at Wuhan Center!
Jordan have shown guts, gumption and glorious team work in reaching the final as against China’s calculated demolition of all their rivals.
Do Jordan have it in them to go that one yard extra in the long mile that they have run so far? You’ll find the answer in less than 24 hours.
S Mageshwaran / FIBA Asia

DarknessFalls
09-24-2011, 06:39 PM
You don't have any idea about Philippine Law. STFU

are you going to explain it to him? is it something like if you're mother is a Filipino citizen, the child automatically gets citizenship as well? :)

DarknessFalls
09-24-2011, 06:40 PM
Regardless of the controversial 4 naturalized players of the Philippines, it's still a Cinderella story to have Jordan in the Finals to compete vs China.

Congratulations to Jordan for getting this far and beating Iran and now the Philippines!

analyzed
09-24-2011, 08:37 PM
+100000

RP team cannot rely solely in Douthit in the post for the whole game...the really need to shoot well from the outside for this kind of competition! The 3 pts shots made by Jordan gave them the edge in the 4th canto, thats the turning point, again its the 3pt shooting that can win a ballgame!

As predicted Baldwin used the same strategy of letting the big man score while closing out on the guards

“Douthit was able to put the points on the board but we limited the guards similar to [what we did aganst] Iran. We really dug in and I want to credit our defense for that,” added Baldwin.

I've said in the beggining Baldwin is Jordan's x-factor, and is the key to a lot of their success

Nimaa
09-24-2011, 09:30 PM
Jordan team win the naturalization of the Philippines

The eye is not superior to the brow

lmao
pot calling the kettle ...
who was that black guy in your team then? :D

A unique case of genetic mutation or?

DarknessFalls
09-24-2011, 09:44 PM
lmao
pot calling the kettle ...
who was that black guy in your team then? :D

A unique case of genetic mutation or?

Every team is allowed to have 1 naturalized player, while others have to have citizenship by a certain age 18 or 16 I forget. So in Jordan's case, it should be all good.

Tsar Josef
09-25-2011, 12:48 AM
Jordan team win the naturalization of the Philippines

The eye is not superior to the brow

Wright? born in Philadelphia, PA, USA...explain that to me why he is playing with Jordan NT?

Enver Kazbek Soobzokov? Born in USA?

Islam Mohd Abbass? Born in West Bank, Palestine?

Zaid Ahmed Abbas? Born in Nablus, Palestine?

I don't know where Palestine exactly lies, I'm not sure if this is a disputed territory between Jordan and Israel or is this Palestine itself, whatever the exact location, my point is they are not exactly born in Jordan but they are playing with Jordan NT. So, what the bravado about Jordanian team winning against Philippine team when in fact Jordan has players born outside of Jordan...:confused:

oaba09
09-25-2011, 02:06 AM
are you going to explain it to him? is it something like if you're mother is a Filipino citizen, the child automatically gets citizenship as well? :)

If one of your parents is a filipino, you're automatically considered a filipino at birth based on our 1987 constitution. This is the reason why lutz and lassiter are not considered as naturalized players.

mangangalakal
09-25-2011, 02:43 AM
are you going to explain it to him? is it something like if you're mother is a Filipino citizen, the child automatically gets citizenship as well? :)

Yes. It's just like that. Wherever you are born (even in outer space), if you were born to a Filipino parent, then you are a Filipino CITIZEN BY LAW. :)

mangangalakal
09-25-2011, 02:56 AM
Wright? born in Philadelphia, PA, USA...explain that to me why he is playing with Jordan NT?

Enver Kazbek Soobzokov? Born in USA?

Islam Mohd Abbass? Born in West Bank, Palestine?

Zaid Ahmed Abbas? Born in Nablus, Palestine?

I don't know where Palestine exactly lies, I'm not sure if this is a disputed territory between Jordan and Israel or is this Palestine itself, whatever the exact location, my point is they are not exactly born in Jordan but they are playing with Jordan NT. So, what the bravado about Jordanian team winning against Philippine team when in fact Jordan has players born outside of Jordan...:confused:

IMHO I think most Asian teams are in the same boat now. Lebanon has Sam Hoskin (and Jackson Vroman & Matt Freije before that). Syria has Eder Araujo. Jordan has Rasheim Wright and all those Jordanian expats you mentioned. Korea has the Stevenson/Moon brothers. Qatar has Targuy Ngombo et.al. It's just natural nowadays to enlist players from around the globe. What's important to remember is that NATIONHOOD IS A STATE OF MIND. Wherever these players are born, they will always feel a connection to the country of their ancestors. And Philippine law recognises that. That's why TJ Moon, Chris Lutz, and Marcio Lassiter suited up for their respective NTs. They have Korean and Filipino blood (respectively) running in their veins. They just happened to be born in a foreign land. Same goes for Abbaas brothers.

I think Enver Soobzokov's family are migrants from Russia. From what I have read (sorry no source, it was a looooong time ago) Enver Soobzokov is a second-generation migrant. This explains his un-Arabic-sounding surname.

So there is no need to throw all this "naturalized" and "expat" shiznitz around because most of us are really guilty.

Even European teams are also doing this. In fact, the Cinderella 4th placers of Eurobasket 2011 (Macedonia FYR) are led by their Naturalized point guard, Bo McCalebb. Croatia has Dontaye Draper, Montenegro has Omar Cook, and Bosnia-Herzegovina has Henry Domercant. Even the GREAT SPAIN TEAM has Serge Ibaka (naturalized from Congo-Kinshasa) and Nikola Mirotic!

Naturalization of players is a reality brought about by globalization and it's just a darned fact of life. :) I

analyzed
09-25-2011, 03:18 AM
Let's not confuse naturalisation with those who by way of their parents are natural citizens of their parents home country, in regardless of where they were born or grew up. C'mon me and my wife are and were born and grew up in the Philippines, now we happen to live in another country and have dual citizenship, It would be redicoulous to consider our children as none Filipinos or as "naturalized" if they were good enough and decided to represent the Phil. Same case goes for all my siblings and cousins childrens, who now live and are born in the US. How in the world can you consider them as none filipinos? , why penalised a whole race for simply trying to make a living elsewhere

DarknessFalls
09-25-2011, 03:42 AM
IMHO I think most Asian teams are in the same boat now. Lebanon has Sam Hoskin (and Jackson Vroman & Matt Freije before that). Syria has Eder Araujo. Jordan has Rasheim Wright and all those Jordanian expats you mentioned. Korea has the Stevenson/Moon brothers. Qatar has Targuy Ngombo et.al. It's just natural nowadays to enlist players from around the globe. What's important to remember is that NATIONHOOD IS A STATE OF MIND. Wherever these players are born, they will always feel a connection to the country of their ancestors. And Philippine law recognises that. That's why TJ Moon, Chris Lutz, and Marcio Lassiter suited up for their respective NTs. They have Korean and Filipino blood (respectively) running in their veins. They just happened to be born in a foreign land. Same goes for Abbaas brothers.

I think Enver Soobzokov's family are migrants from Russia. From what I have read (sorry no source, it was a looooong time ago) Enver Soobzokov is a second-generation migrant. This explains his un-Arabic-sounding surname.

So there is no need to throw all this "naturalized" and "expat" shiznitz around because most of us are really guilty.

Even European teams are also doing this. In fact, the Cinderella 4th placers of Eurobasket 2011 (Macedonia FYR) are led by their Naturalized point guard, Bo McCalebb. Croatia has Dontaye Draper, Montenegro has Omar Cook, and Bosnia-Herzegovina has Henry Domercant. Even the GREAT SPAIN TEAM has Serge Ibaka (naturalized from Congo-Kinshasa) and Nikola Mirotic!

Naturalization of players is a reality brought about by globalization and it's just a darned fact of life. :) I

I'd actually like to see if Chinese Taipei aka "Taiwan" can also take advantage of these FIBA rules about citizenship and see if they could get both Jeremy Lin and Joe Alexander on their national team. Joe Alexander has said a few times that he considers mainland China as in hometown, but he obviously hasn't played for them and that's probably because he is a U.S. Citizen and China does not allow dual-citizenship. However in the case with Chinese Taipei, not sure if they are as open to a player who might not be seen as "Taiwanese" on their team, unlike Jeremy Lin who is obviously at least of Han Chinese heritage.

and let's not all forget another great retired naturalized player:

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:D

analyzed
09-25-2011, 04:18 AM
[QUOTE=DarknessFalls;652825]I'd actually like to see if Chinese Taipei aka "Taiwan" can also take advantage of these FIBA rules about citizenship and see if they could get both Jeremy Lin and Joe Alexander on their national team. Joe Alexander has said a few times that he considers mainland China as in hometown, but since he is a U.S. Citizen he probably wouldn't play for them since they do not allow dual-citizenship. But not sure if they are as open to a player who might not be seen as "Taiwanese" on their team, unlike Jeremy Lin who is obviously at least of Han Chinese heritage.

and let's not all forget another great retired naturalized player:

I think that is the main reason why a lot of people here don't understand the Philippines citizenship situation. Unlike other countries the Philippines has a dual citiznship policy. Why is this relevant?. take the example of Jeremy Lin , assuming Tiapei does not have a dual citizenship policy and his parents of chinese decent are US citizens , and he is as well. and has been since birth or al least before he turned 16, then that would make Jeremy Lin only eligible to play for Tiapei as a naturalized citizen, The case is different for Lassister , he and his parent are American citizens , even before he turned 16. But because filipino law alows for dual citizenship, more specically citizenship by natural linege (children of Filipino citizens are considered citizens at birth) then Lassister is elibible to play not under the naturalisation FIBA policy but is a Filipino by birth.

DarknessFalls
09-25-2011, 04:34 AM
I think that is the main reason why a lot of people here don't understand the Philippines citizenship situation. Unlike other countries the Philippines has a dual citiznship policy. Why is this relevant?. take the example of Jeremy Lin , assuming Tiapei does not have a dual citizenship policy and his parents of chinese decent are US citizens , and he is as well. and has been since birth or al least before he turned 16, then that would make Jeremy Lin only eligible to play for Tiapei as a naturalized citizen, The case is different for Lassister , he and his parent are American citizens , even before he turned 16. But because filipino law alows for dual citizenship, more specically citizenship by natural linege (children of Filipino citizens are considered citizens at birth) then Lassister is elibible to play not under the naturalisation FIBA policy but is a Filipino by birth.

What I'm getting from this, please correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but are Lassister's parents both American citizens (born and raised) but because one of them happens to have Filipino heritage, it automatically makes him a Filipino citizen as well, even though he isn't from the Philippines either? Meaning he didn't even have to apply for it.

At the end of the day, FIBA needs to really look into these rules if they want to change it but teams are going to find ways to take advantage or cheat the system regardless (like China with older players). However, it seems it has made FIBA Asia to at least some better quality basketball. I personally would like to see the Naturalized rule to be upgraded to 2 players on each team, to see if it creates better competition in FIBA Asia and levels the playing field, but that's just me.

b3lowzro
09-25-2011, 05:08 AM
[QUOTE=DarknessFalls;652825]I'd actually like to see if Chinese Taipei aka "Taiwan" can also take advantage of these FIBA rules about citizenship and see if they could get both Jeremy Lin and Joe Alexander on their national team. Joe Alexander has said a few times that he considers mainland China as in hometown, but since he is a U.S. Citizen he probably wouldn't play for them since they do not allow dual-citizenship. But not sure if they are as open to a player who might not be seen as "Taiwanese" on their team, unlike Jeremy Lin who is obviously at least of Han Chinese heritage.

and let's not all forget another great retired naturalized player:

I think that is the main reason why a lot of people here don't understand the Philippines citizenship situation. Unlike other countries the Philippines has a dual citiznship policy. Why is this relevant?. take the example of Jeremy Lin , assuming Tiapei does not have a dual citizenship policy and his parents of chinese decent are US citizens , and he is as well. and has been since birth or al least before he turned 16, then that would make Jeremy Lin only eligible to play for Tiapei as a naturalized citizen, The case is different for Lassister , he and his parent are American citizens , even before he turned 16. But because filipino law alows for dual citizenship, more specically citizenship by natural linege (children of Filipino citizens are considered citizens at birth) then Lassister is elibible to play not under the naturalisation FIBA policy but is a Filipino by birth.

sir I think you misunderstood on how pinoys from abroad can get Filipino citizenship.

one of your parents should a citizen of the Philippines for you to eligible to become a Filipino citizen. Lassister's mom is Filipina which makes him eligible for the NT. one curious would be Fil-Am Gabe Norwood but i leave it to our experts here to explain his case.

analyzed
09-25-2011, 05:25 AM
What I'm getting from this, please correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but are Lassister's parents both American citizens (born and raised) but because one of them happens to have Filipino heritage, it automatically makes him a Filipino citizen as well, even though he isn't from the Philippines either? Meaning he didn't even have to apply for it.

At the end of the day, FIBA needs to really look into these rules if they want to change it but teams are going to find ways to take advantage or cheat the system regardless (like China with older players). However, it seems it has made FIBA Asia to at least some better quality basketball. I personally would like to see the Naturalized rule to be upgraded to 2 players on each team, to see if it creates better competition in FIBA Asia and levels the playing field, but that's just me.

Lassister's mother is a Filipino citizen. And has been ever since. She currently holds dual Filipino and US citizenship. Same is true for Lassiter. While his father is an American Citizen

aymanxp
09-25-2011, 06:23 AM
It’s gold medal time; who’s prepared?


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WUHAN (FIBA Asia Championship) - “I didn’t think they were going to beat Jordan anyway,” China coach Bob Donewald told a disbelieving press conference the day Jordan stunned Iran in the FIBA Asia Championship Quarter-Finals.
While the prediction seemed unlikely when you consider that Jordan - who have hit less than 28% from the three-point line for the rest of the tournament - had to nail 10/23 triples to sneak past Iran, Donewald had well-placed confidence in the off-court team that has served him so well.
“My staff and my scouts kept saying ‘you watch, Jordan’s beating Iran today. They’re out of shape and Jordan plays hard’,” Donewald added.

In today’s basketball, scouting has developed into an art form that simply has to be perfected.
“It’s normal now, if teams aren’t doing it they’re off the curve,” said Jordan coach Tab Baldwin who, point guard Sam Daghles revealed, spends immeasurable hours pouring over tapes of upcoming opponents.

“It’s common to be working at four in the morning,” Baldwin said, knowing that the two weeks of a FIBA tournament can take their toll.

“It was a big eye-opener for me going back to 2002 (FIBA World Championship), I remember my family in America watching games and seeing some of the interviews after the game and saying to me ‘what’s wrong with you? You look half dead.’

“Of course the adrenalin keeps you going so you don’t notice that stuff but afterwards, seeing some of the video with the black eyes, the red eyes, but you don’t really feel it at the time.”

China has locked down opponents’ offences all tournament in Wuhan, and Donewald said preparation has been one of the keys.
“They’ve been outstanding,” he said of his scouting team.

“For two summers now coach Ernak has been the lead on our defensive system. And then we have got the NBA guy here, Pete Fowler, who is just really knowledgeable in terms of scouting.
"We take all that information, we take all the video analysis and we’ve got statistical analysis as well, and then we make our decisions.”

For Baldwin, the key is getting the players to understand the messages, but things don’t always go to plan.
“It takes a lot of work, you have to look at five or six hours of tape to get it down to 30 minutes for the players,” he said.

“Getting them to absorb it is the next step, that’s the most important thing. Generally what you emphasise is what they pick up the best,” he added.

“They also pick up stuff when they watch themselves the best, but that’s not usually what I want to show them! They love highlight films. I rarely do that but they can turn a scouting session into a highlight film sometimes, or a comedy session!”

Donewald too acknowledged that all the scouting in the world achieves little without a committed team.
“I speak on behalf of all my staff when we say it is my players,” he said.

“Because they adhere to the principles, they put in tremendous effort, and give the credit to my players because they go out there and work their asses off and play tremendous defence.”

Donewald had one more prediction to share with the media when he spotted Baldwin in his post Semi-Final press conference.

“When the Jordan game was over the last time we played them I said to their coach - and he is here so you can ask him - I said ‘I will see you in the finals’. So Tab, I’ll see you tomorrow baby, we’ll have a good game!”

Baldwin laughed, knowing that he still had a lot of work to do before hitting the sidelines for his team’s first ever FIBA Asia Championship final.
“Tonight will be a late night,” he said. “But it’s the final game, so I wont be begrudging the minutes!”

No doubt both coaches and both teams would give up more than a little bit of sleep to get that one place at the London Olympics.

Paulo Kennedy

FIBA

aymanxp
09-25-2011, 06:31 AM
Crunch time at the FIBA Asia Championship


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WUHAN (FIBA Asia Championship) – Who wins the medals, who goes to London and who gets a second chance at the FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament will all be decided today at the Wuhan Sports Centre.

First up Korea and the Philippines must pick themselves up and dust themselves off after their crushing Semi-Final defeats, and put it all on the line one more time at 15:30 (09:30 CET/07:30 GMT) to claim bronze and the last place at next year’s Olympic qualifying tournament.

It won’t be easy, but Philippines forward Kelly Williams said there is no point coming this far and not taking home some of the spoils.
“We’ve still got a chance to win a medal. Obviously it’s not what we came to do but we can’t rest on how far we have come,” he said.

The game everyone is waiting for, but few were expecting, sees host China taking onJordan at 20:00 (14:00 CET/12:00 GMT) for the gold medal and a booking in the Athletes Village in London.

Jordan point guard Sam Daghles said his team is ready to make history.
“We are so pumped to get to the finals because we’ve never been there in the history of Jordan, and we’ve never been to the Olympics,” he explained.

“First we sorted it out with the world championship (last year) where we had never been, and now the Olympics - tomorrow we get a shot at it.”

This determination is no surprise to China coach Bob Donewald.
“We know we are playing a very, very difficult opponent. Jordan is rolling right now,” he said, before adding his now trademark line. “We respect all opponents, but we are ready for them.”

China’s defense has been outstanding all tournament, but in the Semi-Final against Korea they struggled to put the ball in the hole, shooting just 28% from the field and 20% from the three-point line.

Forward Zhu Fangyu knows they will have to do better if they are to win gold, but also thinks the challenge of shooting at a higher rate is something to embrace rather than worry about.

“We did miss some open shots, but still, we should not hesitate and we will remain confident to take any open shots we get,” he said.

“The whole team knows that this game is the most important game in this year’s championship and we will never let our guard down.
"Jordan has beaten Iran and the Philippines, they are in good shape, so we will have to be very focused and execute the plans of the coaches."

Jordan coach Tab Baldwin understands that his team is massive underdogs but he doesn’t mind that, knowing even the mighty must fall at some point.
“China is the class of this tournament, and so far they’ve been unbeatable. But no team is unbeatable; that doesn’t exist,” he reasoned.

Jordan struggled for consistency for much of this tournament but have rediscovered their mental toughness just in time, rekindling the form that saw them win the King Abdullah Tournament in July.

Whether it was their dedication to King and country, the pre-game phone call from the Palace, the hours of video analysis or something else, Baldwin is just glad his team is playing the way he knows they can.

“We had a long summer of preparations. We had a lot of ups and downs, we had some disruptions with players coming in and out,” he said. “What we had in our King Abdullah Tournament we lost for a long time, but we’ve found it.”

You can watch both the gold and bronze medal games of the FIBA Asia Championship live on FIBATV.

Paulo Kennedy

FIBA

zoman114
09-25-2011, 06:32 AM
MALAYSIA over UZBEKISTAN, 82-76
MAS 82 - Loh 18, Chee 13, Wee 9, Batumalai 9, Ng 9, Ooi 8, Lau 5, Kuek 4, Kuppusamy 3, Soo 2, Kwaan 2 Chin 0
UZB 76 - Denisov 21, Kozlov 15, Juginisov 13, Shatrov 10, Zinovev 6, Belokurov 6, Nuraliev 5, Yahin 0, Pereverzev 0, Timofev 0
QS: 22-14, 45-33, 64-59, 82-76
- Malaysia led early and held on to nail 11th place in Wuhan, China. The Malaysians compensated for their size disadvantage by shooting better from the field (43%-34%) and from behind the arc (42%-29%). They also used speed, outscoring the Uzbeks 27-8 in transition.
- Shee Fai Loh led Malaysia, hitting 4 threes for a total of 18 points, 8 rebounds and 3 assists. Li Wei Chee had another good game down low, scoring 13 markers and grabbing 14 boards. This is Malaysia's best finish in the tournament since getting 9th place in 1989, and augurs well for their chances in the 2011 SEA Games.
- Vyacheslav Denisov hit 6 triples to lead Uzbekistan with 21 points. Aleksandr Kozlov backed him up with a beastly double-double of 15 points and 15 rebounds to go along with 4 assists and 2 steals. Uzbekistan finishes 12th, which is two notches higher than their 14th spot finish in 2009.


SYRIA over UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, 76-72
SYR 76 - Osfira 18, Nalbandian 16, Georges 12, Jlilati 8, Al-Khatib 7, Daks 7, Deeb 4, Lubus 4, Al-Saman 0, Abboud 0
UAE 72 - Ahmed 19, Al-Braiki 18, Abdalla 13, Al-Shabebi 11, Al-Sari 7, Banihammad 4, Salem 0, Al-Ali 0, Al-Zaabi 0
QS: 21-24, 43-39, 59-53, 76-72
- A big fourth quarter run by the Syrians put enough separation to hold off a late charge by the Emirates and close out the tournament with a 76-72 win. It was a close game all throughout with Syria unable to exploit its size, losing the rebounding battle, 39-42, and not dominating the paint offensively. UAE proved better in transition, too, outscoring Syria, 17-6, on fastbreak points, but the Syrians hit the shots that counted the most.
- Mahmoud Osfira fired in 18 points with 4 rebounds to lead Syria's offense while frontcourt partner Eder Georges finished with a dozen markers and 11 boards. Vache Nalbandian stroked in 4 triples and scored 16 markers in total to help balance out the scoring. Syria matches its 9th place finish in the 2003 edition, but it seems the Syrians will forever be hard-pressed to match their best-ever 4th place finish back in 2001.


IRAN over TAIWAN, 98-66
IRI 98 - Haddadi 21, Kamrani 18, Afagh 18, Kazemi 13, Sahakian 10, Bahrami 9, Kardoust 5, Davoudi 3, Davari 1, Davarpanah 0, Sohrabnejad 0
TPE 66 - Wu 16, Tseng 13, Lin 12, Lu 12, Chen HA 8, Chen SN 5, Chien 0, Su 0, Ho 0, Chang 0
QS: 21-16, 48-31, 75-50, 98-66
- Taiwan seemed like it would make this game exciting, until Iran unleashed a 17-0 run that extended a tight 19-16 lead into a wide 20-point gap midway in the 2nd period. The WABA kings coasted from then on and proceeded to impose themselves at will over the hapless Taiwanese. Iran dominated in the paint and in transition, more than doubling Taiwan's rebounding output and dishing out significantly more assists.
- Hamed Haddadi made up for the Jordan game by pouring in 21 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 blocks. Arsalan Kazemi had his own double-double with 13 points and 11 rebounds while Hamed Afagh and Mehdi Kamrani each contributed 18 markers. Afagh made all his points from behind the arc. Iran bounces back after the shocker to Jordan and now battles for 5th place against Lebanon.
- Wu Tai-Hao led Taiwan's losing effort with 16 points and 6 boards while Tseng Wen-Ting, Lin Chih-Chieh and Lu Cheng-Ju combined for all 8 of Taiwan's triples to score 37 markers in all. Starting PG Lee Hsueh-Lin and relief big man Mao Chia-En both did not play. Taiwan falls further and now battles Japan for 7th spot.


JORDAN over PHILIPPINES, 75-61
JOR 75 - Wright 24, Dahglas 16, Abbas 14, Abu Quora 9, Zaghab 5, Abbaas 5, Al-Sous 2, Hussein 0, Abu Ruqayah 0, Soobzokov 0, Al-Khas 0
PHL 61 - Douthit 21, Casio 15, De Ocampo 8, Williams 6, Barroca 4, Lutz 4, Lassiter 2, Alapag 1, Taulava 0, Tiu 0
QS: 12-18, 27-28, 49-41, 75-61
- The Pinoys' dream run ends while the Jordanians' upset streak continues after coach Tab Baldwin's boys caught the Philippines in its worst shooting funk of the tournament. The Filipinos shot a woeful 31% from the field, including an anemic 13% from downtown, as Jordan's big three of Sam Dahglas, Rasheim Wright and Zaid Abbas made key shots that put the game away mid-4th quarter. Dahglas sandwiched an Abbas triple with 2 treys of his own to expand a precarious 49-48 lead to a 60-48 advantage and effectively dash the hopes of the erstwhile resurgent Filipinos.
- Wright led all scorers with 24 points on 9-of-17 shooting from the field while Dahglas scored 16 markers and dished out 4 assists. Dahglas and Abbas both sat out a significant portion of the 1st half due to early foul trouble, but came back strong in the 2nd half to repeatedly frustrate the Filipinos. Jordan now barges into the Championship game after two wins over higher seeds.
- Marcus Douthit had another commendable game, scoring 21 points, grabbing 15 rebounds and rejecting 2 shots, while JV Casio led the backcourt with 15 markers and 3 triples. It was all for naught, though, as the team shot miserably from the field and just couldn't solve the defensive puzzle presented by the determined Jordanians. The Pinoys still have a crack at the Olympics if they succeed in claiming 3rd place against Korea.


LEBANON over JAPAN, 80-78
LIB 80 - Hoskin 16, Stephan 16, Ibrahim 16, Abdel Nour 13, Akl 8, Martinez 7, Kanaan 2, Tabet 2
JPN 78 - Kawamura 20, Amino 17, Takeuchi 15, Matsui 9, Shonaka 6, Hirose 4, Ota 3, Sakurai 2, Ishizaki 2, Takeda 0
QS: 15-23, 41-42, 61-62, 80-78
- KJ Matsui will have bad dreams all the way back to Japan after missing those free throws at the end of the game. Lebanon made an improbable endgame rally, cutting an 11-point deficit and taking the lead, 80-78, after Mohamad Ibrahim's three went in at the heels of a 15-2 run. The Japanese managed to get the ball back after Tomoo Amino missed a desperation 3, with Matsui fouled by Sam Hoskin. Matsui uncharacteristically missed the front end and deliberately missed the second, but Japan couldn't muster any miracles to send the game into an extra period.
- Hoskin, Elie Stephan and Ibrahim combined for 48 points for the Lebanese, who fall to the battle for 5th place with Iran after a dominating run in the last 10 years of FIBA-Asia basketball. Even if they manage to upset Iran, this will be Lebanon's worst finish in the competition since its 7th place debut in 1999. Hoskin added 16 rebounds to his tally while Stephan and Ibrahim each converted 4 triples.
- Japan is relegated to the battle for 7th spot with the Taiwanese, but this is the 7th straight edition they've missed the cut for the Top 4. Takuya Kawamura bounced back from a subpar showing against Korea with 20 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists while Amino scored 17 markers and grabbed 5 boards. Kosuke Takeuchi was solid down low with 15 points and 13 caroms, but he made a costly traveling infraction in the clutch. His twin, Joji, sat out the game to rest his rib injury.


CHINA over SOUTH KOREA, 56-43
CHN 56 - Yi J 17, Wang 15, Liu 11, Zhu 5, Sun 5, Ding 2, Zhang B 1, Yi L 0, Zhang Z 0, Yu 0, Su 0, Xirelijiang 0
KOR 43 - Yang DG 17, Stevenson 6, Kim YH 6, Ha 4, Yang HJ 4, Kim JS 3, Oh 2, Kang 1, Park 0, Cho 0, Kim JK 0
QS: 8-11, 21-19, 36-30, 56-43
- China outlasted South Korea in a game marred by terrible field goal shooting. Both teams shot below 30% from the field, with China making just 3-of-15 from downtown and Korea doing even worse, converting just 1-of-20. The keys for China were points-off-turnovers (13-2) and second-chance-points (11-2), as well as timely hits by veterans Wang Zhizhi and Yi Jianlian.
- Yi and Wang led the Chinese, combining for 32 points and 21 rebounds. Liu Wei balanced it out with an 11-point, 4-rebound, 3-assist production. As expected, the hometown team advances to the Championship game as the heavy favorites against an overachieving Jordanian team. The Chinese are pressured to break Iran's stranglehold on FIBA-Asia supremacy, and their chances are stronger now more than ever.
- Yang Dong-Geun played through an injured ankle to lead Korea's upset efforts with 17 points, but nobody else scored more than 6 from coach Hur Jae's squad. So awful was Korea's shooting that they managed just 19 points after 20 minutes of play, and were just outshot the rest of the way. Korea faces a familiar foe in the Philippines to try and salvage a slot in the FIBA Olympic Wildcard Tournament next year by getting 3rd place.

gazara
09-25-2011, 07:45 AM
i think it s not bad ,with a new team ,young players and also without preparations or anything important ,we reached the 6th-5th place from the first time not bad at all ,one time in 2007 ,i think China played in NT B and also didn t reach the QF ,so it was not a bad result at all ,in my opinion if we had the rest players we could won the Championship ! Even if we added Restom-Haidar-Samaha we could reach more than the QF !
it s ok for Now ,in my opinion Ghassan should stay but we have to readd our Full
Roster in the next championship ! (Mahmoud-Khatib-Fahed-Freijie-D.Faris-B.Faris-Haidar-Ibrahim-Restom-Samaha...)

bsgermany
09-25-2011, 07:56 AM
Wright? born in Philadelphia, PA, USA...explain that to me why he is playing with Jordan NT?

Enver Kazbek Soobzokov? Born in USA?

Islam Mohd Abbass? Born in West Bank, Palestine?

Zaid Ahmed Abbas? Born in Nablus, Palestine?

I don't know where Palestine exactly lies, I'm not sure if this is a disputed territory between Jordan and Israel or is this Palestine itself, whatever the exact location, my point is they are not exactly born in Jordan but they are playing with Jordan NT. So, what the bravado about Jordanian team winning against Philippine team when in fact Jordan has players born outside of Jordan...:confused:

An argument over naturalized players is pretty useless, as long as FIBA tolerates something like that. The Philippines would have surely been nowhere near the semi final without its american "i do it all" player", and would Jordan be in the final without Wright? FIBA allows it so thats the way it is!
Looking at the level of performance in this tournament and comparing it to the previous Euro Champs, even this years Asian champ would have had a pretty tough time surviving the preliminary round in Europe.

macan77
09-25-2011, 08:17 AM
I'd actually like to see if Chinese Taipei aka "Taiwan" can also take advantage of these FIBA rules about citizenship and see if they could get both Jeremy Lin and Joe Alexander on their national team. Joe Alexander has said a few times that he considers mainland China as in hometown, but he obviously hasn't played for them and that's probably because he is a U.S. Citizen and China does not allow dual-citizenship. However in the case with Chinese Taipei, not sure if they are as open to a player who might not be seen as "Taiwanese" on their team, unlike Jeremy Lin who is obviously at least of Han Chinese heritage.

and let's not all forget another great retired naturalized player:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oUE093n-AAQ/TUnP6iweZ5I/AAAAAAAAAEw/_zfCriYdoJk/s1600/HO.jpg

:D

yeah, if you backread on some of the threads here, Taiwan wanted to get Jeremy Lin but the player doesn't want to play (yet) coz of injury (as per agent)..so there you go, taiwan could have benefited from this situation but their player doesn't want to play (yet)..

macan77
09-25-2011, 08:21 AM
An argument over naturalized players is pretty useless, as long as FIBA tolerates something like that. The Philippines would have surely been nowhere near the semi final without its american "i do it all" player", and would Jordan be in the final without Wright? FIBA allows it so thats the way it is!
Looking at the level of performance in this tournament and comparing it to the previous Euro Champs, even this years Asian champ would have had a pretty tough time surviving the preliminary round in Europe.

so how about some of your football players, i guess almost half of the team are half germans..so what are you talking about..that's how the rules so that it should be..as long as there is no rules violated, why not..even USA use this rules or use those half americans.

bsgermany
09-25-2011, 08:27 AM
so how about some of your football players, i guess almost half of the team are half germans..so what are you talking about..that's how the rules so that it should be..as long as there is no rules violated, why not..even USA use this rules or use those half americans.

First of all I stated in my post that "FIBA allows it so that's the way it is"! Sometimes it's an advantage to read the post first that you are replying to. :cool:

Secondly, the football players we have on our football team are usually all either born in Germany, or have at least spent practically all their lives in Germany - quite a difference to Douthit, whose only relation to the Philippines is his monthly Gilas paycheck right?

DarknessFalls
09-25-2011, 08:28 AM
yeah, if you backread on some of the threads here, Taiwan wanted to get Jeremy Lin but the player doesn't want to play (yet) coz of injury (as per agent)..so there you go, taiwan could have benefited from this situation but their player doesn't want to play (yet)..

Both PRC and ROC have tried to recruit Jeremy Lin, but PRC doesn't offer dual-citizenship so playing for them seems to be out of the question for now.

Jeremy is already healed from his injury and played with his Warriors teammate in the Impact Basketball league. He's also now supposedly going to practice with the CBA team Dongguan Leopards.

He was there to watch China vs South Korea.

http://img2.cache.netease.com/sports/2011/9/25/20110925115022e36f1.jpg

macan77
09-25-2011, 08:51 AM
Both PRC and ROC have tried to recruit Jeremy Lin, but PRC doesn't offer dual-citizenship so playing for them seems to be out of the question for now.

Jeremy is already healed from his injury and played with his Warriors teammate in the Impact Basketball league. He's also now supposedly going to practice with the CBA team Dongguan Leopards.

He was there to watch China vs South Korea.

http://img2.cache.netease.com/sports/2011/9/25/20110925115022e36f1.jpg

Still, Jeremy was called for taiwan but refused

DarknessFalls
09-25-2011, 09:59 AM
Still, Jeremy was called for taiwan but refused

The point to my initial comment was that I thought it would be interesting to see if Chinese Taipei could get both Jeremy Lin and Joe Alexander to play for them in general and not only in this year's FIBA Asia Championship. And I already knew he refused, but that doesn't mean he will will not play in the future. It seems to be a year by year case which is understandable given the fact Jeremy has yet to secure a long term deal with a NBA team.

behzadir
09-25-2011, 01:46 PM
Funny thing Iran got the most players in the Championship first team.

Kawamura

Daghles

Nikkhah Bahrami

YI Jian Lian

Hamed Haddadi


Shame on the coaching staff who couldn't use these precious players the right way when it mattered the most.

JGX
09-25-2011, 01:46 PM
Jordan and Philippines fans can hit the "Heart Break City" button:
http://www.gusjohnsongetsbuckets.com/

Romia
09-25-2011, 01:47 PM
Hello ,everybody,my friends.
China NT win the Asian Basketball Champion of 2011 in WuHan
Thx to all ,the competitors,the fans of all Asian Country.
Whether Ur team Performed good or not so good ,keep going ,U Will definitely be successful at one day ,maybe the AC in 2013.:D
Thx to Jordanese and the Jordan NT.and the Skor NT,Iran NT ,Lebanon NT,Philipino NT as well as all the other participants who compose the wonderful and exiting Game in WuHan at this tournament to our Baseketball fan in Asia.

With sincere thx again to U all.

mavrick_h
09-25-2011, 02:12 PM
Congrats for China, hard luck Jordan

big game for the jordanian side, respect !

usausa
09-25-2011, 02:14 PM
How is Douthit not on the all-star team? He led the tourney in points and rebounds!

fadzki
09-25-2011, 02:23 PM
How is Douthit not on the all-star team? He led the tourney in points and rebounds!

rasheim wright was not in the mythical 5... must be because there naturalized but that is bull....

reamily
09-25-2011, 02:26 PM
To Mojado

Who says FIBA asia is not better than Fiba Africa overall..

:eek::D

You can bring Australia and New Zealand to asia if Fiba wants

behzadir
09-25-2011, 02:38 PM
To Mojado

Who says FIBA asia is not better than Fiba Africa overall..

:eek::D

You can bring Australia and New Zealand to asia if Fiba wants

No please!! They will beat the crap out of Asian teams for now! We won't have a chance against them for sure.

babdelkader
09-25-2011, 04:40 PM
How is Douthit not on the all-star team? He led the tourney in points and rebounds!

it's in China pal ;)

babdelkader
09-25-2011, 04:42 PM
No please!! They will beat the crap out of Asian teams for now! We won't have a chance against them for sure.

they will give 3 or 4 places for Asia in WC and Olympics man, that's for sure.
and that will bring up the level of the other teams.

Buran
09-25-2011, 08:44 PM
unfortunately I missed the final, and just watched the highlights, looked like a very exciting game! would have personally liked Jordan to win. had Daghlas scored the last shot they would have won.....
anyway wish China good luck in Olympic and hope Jordan and/or Korea make it too

zoman114
09-26-2011, 01:22 AM
JAPAN over TAIWAN, 81-72
JPN 81 - Takeuchi K 16, Amino 14, Matsui 13, Shonaka 13, Takeda 9, Kawamura 9, Ishizaki 5, Ota 2, Sakurai 0, Hirose 0, Takeuchi J 0
TPE 72 - Lin 18, Tseng 17, Chang 14, Chen HA 7, Ho 7, Chen SN 5, Lu 4, Wu 0,
QS: 28-9, 47-36, 66-53, 81-72
- Japan had a hot 13-2 start to the game and never really gave Taiwan a chance the rest of the way. KJ Matsui, Takuya Kawamura and Takeki Shonaka each hit 3 triples to spark the balanced Japanese attack that left the Taiwanese playing catch-up for all 40 minutes. Taiwan was severely beaten on the glass, too, as Japan won the rebound battle with plenty to spare, 48-37.
- Kosuke Takeuchi grabbed a tournament-high 22 rebounds to go along with his 16 points as Japan notched 7th place in the competition, which is 2 places higher than their 9th place finish in 2009. Tomoo Amino backstopped Takeuchi with 14 points on 6-of-8 shooting while young guns Matsui and Shonaka each contributed 13 markers.
- With this loss, Taiwan finishes 8th, its worst in the past few years, and goes home toting a 4-win, 5-loss slate. Lin Chih-Chieh led the Taiwanese with 18 points, but he shot just 6-of-16 from the floor. Tseng Wen-Ting finished with 17 markers, 7 boards, 3 dimes, 2 swipes and 2 rejections.


IRAN over LEBANON, 87-65
IRI 87 - Kamrani 18, Bahrami 18, Kazemi 17, Haddadi 13, Afagh 5, Davoudi 4, Davari 4, Sahakian 4, Davarpanah 2, Kardoust 2, Atashi 0, Sohrabnejad 0
LIB 65 - Hoskin 37, Ibrahim 11, Kanaan 6, Akl 4, Stephan 3, Reda 2, Tabet 2, Martinez 0, El Farkh 0, Bitar 0
QS: 15-17, 50-36, 69-55, 87-65
- The Lebanese held the fort for a quarter before a 14-0 run in the 2nd frame gave Iran a 10-point lead they wouldn't relinquish. Iran dominated in the paint and in transition, outscoring the Lebanese, 46-32, down low and on the break, 29-4. As expected, Iran also pumped in more rebounds and assists as they shot much better from the field, 49% to 36%.
- Mehdi Kamrani and Samad Nikkhah Bahrami led Iran with 18 points each. Kamrani quarterbacked pretty well, too, dishing out 6 assists with 2 steals. Arsalan Kazemi and Hamed Haddadi were pillars of strength inside for Iran, combining for 30 points and 24 rebounds. Kazemi also had 4 steals while shooting 7-of-10 from the floor. Iran finishes the competition with an 8-win, 1-loss card, but they fall to 5th place after two straight FIBA-Asia Championships. They have the Jordanians to thank for that.
- Sam Hoskin had his best game of the tournament, erupting for 37 points while grabbing 12 rebounds and getting 2 steals. He held his own against Haddadi, but hardly anyone else helped him in this fight. Mohamad Ibrahim was the only other Lebanese in double figures, finishing with 11 points, but he shot just 3-of-12 from the floor. Lebanon ends the tournament ranked 6th, its lowest in the past 10 years.


SOUTH KOREA over PHILIPPINES, 70-68
KOR 70 - Cho 20, Kim JS 14, Oh 9, Kang 8, Stevenson 8, Kim JK 7, Lee 2, Kim YH 1, Yang HJ 1, Park 0
PHL 68 - Douthit 27, Alapag 17, Williams 9, Lutz 5, De Ocampo 3, Casio 2, Tiu 2, Baracael 2, Lassiter 1, Taulava 0
QS: 7-14, 17-24, 36-47, 70-68
- The Philippines had the game under wraps until Korea unloaded 20 points in the final 5 minutes to break the hearts of the Filipinos yet again. The crucial endgame reminded Filipino fans of the heart-wrenching 2002 Busan Asian Games semifinals where Korean sniper Lee Sang-Min hit a buzzer-beating three to send the Pinoys packing. This time it was Cho Sung-Min, Oh Se-Keun and Jarod Stevenson who found their touches in the clutch, eating up at the Filipino lead until there was nothing left. It was a squandered chance for coach Rajko Toroman's crew, who led practically the whole game, dictated the tempo, and played without having to go against Yang Dong-Geun and Ha Seung-Jin, both of whom sat out due to injuries.
- Cho hit majority of his 4 treys in those pivotal five minutes, where he nailed 12 of his 20 markers. Kim Joo-Sung fouled out mid-4th frame, but not after scoring 14 points, grabbing 9 rebounds and blocking 2 shots. Stevenson was just 3-of-12 the whole game and hit only one three, but it was the dagger that gave Korea the lead for good. He also had two key blocks on Filipino big man Marcus Douthit that helped seal the bronze medal, and a longshot at the Olympics, for coach Hur Jae's wards.
- Marcus Douthit had another beastly outing with 27 points and 22 rebounds, but he was bottled up when the going got tough down the stretch. Jimmy Alapag hit 17 markers thanks to 5 triples, but, alas, it was not enough. Just like in Busan, it was free throws that did the Filipinos in, with Kelly Williams and Marcio Lassiter missing key freebies inside the final minute. Despite the loss, however, this Top 4 finish is the best that the Philippines has done in 27 years, and it should give credence to the success and promise of the Smart-Gilas program.


CHINA over JORDAN, 70-69
CHN 70 - Yi J 25, Liu 13, Wang 10, Yi L 10, Ding 5, Sun 4, Zhu 3, Zhang B 0, Zhang Z 0, Yu 0
JOR 69 - Wright 26, Abbas 13, Dahglas 10, Al-Sous 7, Zaghab 4, Abbaas 4, Al-Khas 3, Abu Quora 2, Abu Ruqayah 0, Soobzokov 0,
QS: 16-15, 31-36, 59-56, 70-69
- An Ali Zaghab foul at the end doomed Jordan's Cinderella story. Yi Jianlian was fouled after grabbing a defensive rebound and split his charities, which proved to be enough as China scraped past a determined and wily Jordan five to clinch the lone guaranteed Asian spot in the 2012 London Olympics. China didn't look as dominant as it did for most of the tourney as Jordan kept the pace slow and picked their shots while confusing the Chinese with perpetually switching defense. But the Chinese were able to hit their shots when they needed to and just barely made the grade.
- Yi Jianlian proved he was the tournament MVP by pouring in 25 points, grabbing 16 rebounds and blocking 6 shots for China. He was ably supported by Liu Wei, Yi Li and Wang Zhizhi, who finished with 13, 10 and 10 points respectively. Unlike their first meeting with this same Jordanian team, the Chinese failed to dominate, instead groping for form amidst a determined stand by the WABA powerhouse. China moves on and begins preparations for the 2012 Olympics, but, perhaps more importantly, they regain the FIBA-Asia title that has eluded them in the past 2 installments.
- Jordan clinches the silver medal and qualifies for the 2012 Olympics Wildcard Tournament together with bronze medalists South Korea. Rasheim Wright led Jordan with 26 points on 10-of-19 shooting while Zaid Abbas had 13 points and 10 rebounds. Abbas, however, fouled out in the fourth, leaving a gaping hole down low for coach Tab Baldwin's team. Sam Dahglas produced 10 points, 8 rebouds and 4 assists in the tight defeat.

crush
09-26-2011, 04:39 AM
in what could be the most controversial fiba asia from the start ended with a bang...

congrats to china!
respect to jordan!
respect to korea!


mad props to gilas!


until next fiba asia
(i'm going to hibernate again and become a forum sponge :D)

analyzed
09-26-2011, 05:39 AM
Funny thing Iran got the most players in the Championship first team.

Kawamura

Daghles

Nikkhah Bahrami

YI Jian Lian

Hamed Haddadi


Shame on the coaching staff who couldn't use these precious players the right way when it mattered the most.

This is just redicolous , obviously absent are all the naturalised players. How can the leading scorer and rebounder of the tournament Doulthit not be in in the team, How can the leading scorer of a finals team Wright be edged out by an 8th place Kawamura, How can the 3rd place team top scorer Moon also a naturalised player not make it ahead of Kawamura and Bahrami, this is a farce.
It is quite obvious that the organisers are anti naturalisation or I woul'nt be suprise anti- american. Remember these are middle eastern countries that run FIBA asia and we all know how they feel about americans. what a shame. Let me just note Natualised players are considered locals their is no deferintiation especially in terms of getting a vote. Lastly Marcus Doulthit was informed to by officials to come to the awarding ceremonies, why invite him unless the initial results was he was going to get an award. Obviously officials interfered and changed the line-up to reflect a "Asian" look this is racism at its worse

Batman
09-26-2011, 07:12 AM
SGP, let's make it to the 27th FIBA Asia Championships in 2013 where 3 slots are available for the 2014 FIBA World Cup plus 1 wild card for an FIBA World Qualifying Tournament.

Batman
09-26-2011, 07:53 AM
For those who support the Smart Gilas PIlipinas Program, you can visit to my blog @ http://sgp2fibaworld2014.blogspot.com/. I have just created it a few minutes ago as a sign for my undying support for our national team. We can exchange insights, thoughts, comments, reactions and everything revolving on our national team. Hoping that this will reach to MVP.

JAMSKIE
09-26-2011, 08:08 AM
4th place finish-not bad after all!
While we still feel the agony of that extremely bitter defeat vs. Korea, I think we must look at the brighter side of our overall performance in Wuhan.

Firstly, I believe, Smart Gilas didn't play badly 4 the whole tournament. Of the 3 loses that we inflicted in d tournament only that 60-75 loss to china could we consider a one-sided game. We have good wins over jordan & Japan in the elims, And a very convincing win over Taiwan in that crucial quarterfinals game.

Secondly, I think, making it 2 d semis was already a BIG achievement 4 the Philippines considering that it was the 1st time that d Philippines made it to d semis of this tournament since 1987. In my honest 2 goodness assessment prior 2 this tournament, I predicted a rough sailing 4 Gilas in making it 2 the semis. I figured out that even if Gilas beats UAE, Bharain, Jordan, Syria & Japan (Obcourse I predicted Gilas 2 loss 2 china), Gilas would be facing either Qatar, Lebanon or Taiwan in the quarters & it would still be a difficult game. I thought that if Gilas loses 2 either Japan or Jordan in d elims, Gilas would be facing Korea or Iran in d quarters & I believed our team would be d underdog. I honestly thought that Gilas would be good for a 5th or 6th place in this tournament.

Thirdly, I think our overall performance in Wuhan has earned the respect of d asian basketball community. Right now Asian basketball powerhouses consider the Philippines as a strong contender in any major tournament in asia. In the next asian championships w/c will happen 2 years from now, I hope we can send a more prepared, more motivated, more matured, & more courageous Nat'l. team, w/o experiencing any distraction or hitches be4 the tournament. The 4th place finish in Wuhan & the results of our games is an indication that Philippine basketball is in the right direction. We just need 2 be patient & gallant.

That loss 2 Korea yesterday was really very painful. I think it reminded most of us of the Busan disaster in 2002. I know just like me, most of our diehard basketball aficionados were really brokenhearted yesterday. But there's really nothing much 2 gain in reeling from that agonizing defeat. Let us not let d "ghost" of that loss 2 Korea haunt us 4ever. Let us put that defeat in stride & move on. Believe me, luck will be on our side d next time around. GOD is just & fair, he rewards those who work hard & persevere.

Lets not blame any of the players or coach Rajko Toroman. Those guys worked so hard 2 give us that semis finish. They deserved our praise & our recognition. Believe, things are looking good 4 Phi. basketball.
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mohsena2631
09-26-2011, 05:41 PM
Funny thing Iran got the most players in the Championship first team.

Kawamura

Daghles

Nikkhah Bahrami

YI Jian Lian

Hamed Haddadi


Shame on the coaching staff who couldn't use these precious players the right way when it mattered the most.

It's really funny, both Samad and Haddadi didn't play well here, Samad was better, and maybe because I can't see any SF better than him in this tournament. but Hamed ? he destroyed our team with his selfish play. Douthit or Hoskin deserves it more. Hamed is a better player than all of them by big margin but not in this tournament.
and well looks like FIBA Asia didn't want to pick mercenaries !

congrats to all medalists, China, Jordan and Korea
and also congrats to Rajko ! after 3 years or training, at least he ranked better than us ! :p I'm sure that means a lot for him.

budz17
09-26-2011, 06:31 PM
It's really funny, both Samad and Haddadi didn't play well here, Samad was better, and maybe because I can't see any SF better than him in this tournament. but Hamed ? he destroyed our team with his selfish play. Douthit or Hoskin deserves it more. Hamed is a better player than all of them by big margin but not in this tournament.
and well looks like FIBA Asia didn't want to pick mercenaries !

congrats to all medalists, China, Jordan and Korea
and also congrats to Rajko ! after 3 years or training, at least he ranked better than us ! :p I'm sure that means a lot for him.

of course, they would'nt pick them, it would have made the tournament look like an american tournament.

am sure coach rajko is not happy, I'm pretty sure he is smashed. for your information, he did'nt get the players that he wanted in the philippines.

what he got instead, were players fresh from college or still in college, and this team for the last three years have been making some noise in the middle east despite being undersized. he got some pba players for this tournament but they were on short notice.

while iran seems poised to be a power in asian basketball for years to come, don't think that all iran has to do is show up to the tournament and they will win already, just ask jordan:p. a lot of things can happen that will affect your team's performance. aside from hadadi and samad nikah, there are'nt really any new talent that can be considered to be in their same level coming out of iran. also, injuries can take a lot away from the player.

rocketstar47
11-10-2011, 10:18 AM
2011 FIBA ASIA

MYSTERIOUS FIVE

C-Haddadi-iran is elliminated why he is in the mythical selection since marcus douthit is leading the tournaments points and rebounds

PF-Yi Jianlian- for me he should be included bcoz he carried his team to the finals

SF-Samad Bahrami- why he is here i think the one we should put here is korea's moon tae jong

SG-Takuya Kawamura- ??? no comment

PG-Daghles-why its not wright

Khalid80
11-10-2011, 11:41 AM
2011 FIBA ASIA

MYSTERIOUS FIVE

C-Haddadi-iran is elliminated why he is in the mythical selection since marcus douthit is leading the tournaments points and rebounds

PF-Yi Jianlian- for me he should be included bcoz he carried his team to the finals

SF-Samad Bahrami- why he is here i think the one we should put here is korea's moon tae jong

SG-Takuya Kawamura- ??? no comment

PG-Daghles-why its not wright

They don't consider naturalized players in the list ;)

rocketstar47
11-10-2011, 12:31 PM
They don't consider naturalized players in the list ;)


I Agree:D

shere0901
01-09-2013, 06:48 AM
This is absolutely wrong decision of FIBA cause every independent country has right to become Host country. so I can not go to similar decision of FIBA.