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Victorious
11-03-2009, 02:00 PM
It would be interesting to have an overview of basketball trophies per country on all men's competitions of the highest level. So we can, to an extent, measure how much succes each country has had through the years.

The most significant are:

NTs
World Championships
Olympics
European Championships

Clubs
EC I (Champions cup, Euroleague)
EC II (Saporta, Uleb cup, EuroCup, European Cup winners cup)
EC III (Korac, Eurochallenge, Fiba Europe cup)

The rest are of no particular interest.

Victorious
11-03-2009, 02:10 PM
Here are the trophies of Greece:

Trophies: 17

2 EC (NT)
6 EC I
5 EC II
3 EC III
1 ICC

Aek Athens: 2
1968 Saporta
2000 Saporta

Aris: 3
1993 Cup winners Cup
1997 Korac Cup
2003 Fiba Europe Cup

Paok: 2
1991 Saporta
1994 Korac

Panathinaikos: 6
1996 Euroleague
2000 Euroleague
2002 Euroleague
2007 Euroleague
2009 Euroleague

1996 Intercontinental Cup

Olympiakos: 1
1997 Euroleague

Maroussi: 1
2001 Saporta

Greece NT: 2
1987 EC
2005 EC

Mindozas
11-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Žalgiris:

1986 W.Jones Cup (Intercontinental Cup)
1998 Saporta Cup
1999 Euroleague


Rytas:

2005 and 2009 Uleb Cup


Mens' NT:

1937, 1939 and 2003 European Champions


Women's NT:

1997 European Champions

pohani komarac
11-03-2009, 04:25 PM
Croatia 10 trophies

Cibona:

Euroleague 1985., 1986.
European Cup Winners Cup 1982., 1987.
Korač Cup: 1972.
HM: Euroleague opening tornament 2001.

Split (ex Jugoplastika, POP 84):

Euroleague 1989., 1990., 1991.
Korač Cup 1976., 1977.
.........................................
NT 0 trophies since becoming independet 1991.:D:(
HM: silver OG 92., bronze at EC 93. and 95., bronze at WC 94.

pablonis
11-03-2009, 05:44 PM
Rather unfair comparison considering some basketball-wise significant countries were occupied for half of last century. :rolleyes:

Take Soviet Unions Olympic gold in Seoul, where the team was lead by Sabonis, Marciulionis, Kurtinaitis and Chomicius and there were as many ukrainians on the team as russians.

Victorious
11-03-2009, 10:54 PM
Rather unfair comparison considering some basketball-wise significant countries were occupied for half of last century. :rolleyes:

Take Soviet Unions Olympic gold in Seoul, where the team was lead by Sabonis, Marciulionis, Kurtinaitis and Chomicius and there were as many ukrainians on the team as russians.

We are all aware of the USSR and Yugoslavia. And how do you suppose we solve it? Club basketball is easy, since we now where teams are located.

I'm very interested to see the Spanish, Italian and French trophy cases. Anyone?

Guard
11-03-2009, 11:59 PM
Spain NT

1 Eurobasket
1 WC

Real Madrid

8 Euroleague (Record)
1 EuroCup
1 Korac Cup
4 Saporta Cup
4 Inter Continental Cup

Barcelona
1 Euroleague
2 Korac Cup
2 Saporta Cup

Baskonia
1 Saporta Cup

Malaga
1 Korac Cup

Joventut
1 Euroleague
1 EuroCup
2 Korac Cup
1 EuroChallenge

Valencia
1 EuroCup

Girona
1 EuroCup

Guard
11-04-2009, 12:11 AM
Italy has the most succesfull club teams:
13 Euroleague
10 Korac Cup
15 Saporta Cup

And also 2 Eurobasket.

Victorious
11-04-2009, 12:35 AM
Israel: 6 trophies


Maccabi: 4 Euroleague titles, 1 Suproleague title
Hapoel: 1 Uleb 2004

Victorious
11-04-2009, 12:40 AM
France: 7 trophies

1 Euroleague
1 Saporta
5 Korac

Victorious
11-04-2009, 12:45 AM
Turkey: 1 trophy

1996 Korac, Efes Pilsen

rikhardur
11-04-2009, 01:10 AM
Latvia: 3 Euroleague titles (ASK Riga - 1958, 1959, 1960)
Georgia: 1 Euroleague title (Dynamo Tbilisi - 1962)

pablonis
11-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Latvia: 3 Euroleague titles (ASK Riga - 1958, 1959, 1960)
Georgia: 1 Euroleague title (Dynamo Tbilisi - 1962)

Barons Riga - Fiba Eurochallenge cup 2008

LuDux
11-04-2009, 03:20 PM
We are all aware of the USSR and Yugoslavia. And how do you suppose we solve it?

Start counting from 1990

LuDux
11-04-2009, 04:27 PM
You can not just reset time or draw lines whenever it fits you.

Oh yes I can

Luíz for 3
11-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Or EuroChallenge

You are right. Girona won in 2007 the FIBA EuroCup (actually FIBA EuroChallenge) and one year later they lost in the final of the ULEB Cup (now EuroCup) against DKV

Juan Carlos Nadal
11-04-2009, 09:11 PM
Israel: 6 trophies


Maccabi: 5 Euroleague titles
Hapoel: 1 Uleb 2004

To be totally correct, it should be 4 Euroleagues, 1 Suproleague and 1 ULEB Cup.

It has been an eternal debate over the worth of the Suproleague title and whether it should be at par with a Euroleague title (just as Kinder's title that year should also not be at par with a normal EL title, IMHO).

Victorious
11-05-2009, 02:44 PM
To be totally correct, it should be 4 Euroleagues, 1 Suproleague and 1 ULEB Cup.

It has been an eternal debate over the worth of the Suproleague title and whether it should be at par with a Euroleague title (just as Kinder's title that year should also not be at par with a normal EL title, IMHO).

No it's not on par with a Euroleague title. And I'm glad Pao lost that final to Maccabi, because one of the stars on Pao's shirt would always be debatable.

donmar
11-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Is Suproleague equivalent to Soccer's European SuperCup (CL champs vs. UEFA Cup champs)?

donmar
11-05-2009, 10:56 PM
No. In 2001 there was a split in European basketball and there were two competitions, Euroleague and Suproleague. Imagine something like UEFA organising Champions League and G14 organising their own seperate competition in one year. something like that.

Ah ok... thanks... I haven't heard of it until now... I still prefer Euroleague since they show it here in New Zealand..

donmar
11-05-2009, 11:09 PM
It was only in 2001. There is no Suproleague now. All teams play in Euroleague now.

Ah ok.. I see what you mean... thats would be bad if Suproleague is still alive... I start watching Euroleague in 2004 (not so often these days) so I guess I miss that one out...... thanks for the info...

Juan Carlos Nadal
11-05-2009, 11:24 PM
The two best teams played in that final, the question should be if Euroleague title of that year was on par with the Suproleague title.

Even if I disagree with that, it was a year that neither competition was of the difficulty of a unified EL and neither will worth as much as an EL to the majority of neutral fans from the looks of it, just like Victorious pointed out.

It was such a terrible year for European basketball.