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  • Andrei Kirilenko: His Stats and Styles (recovered)

    This was one of my favorite threads, so I had to recover it - Stuart

    (originally posted by, mayteromanl, 12-03-2003, 03:04 PM)

    Andrei Kirilenko
    Hi! I was looking the ideal discussion for talking about Kirilenko. I love this player, hope he's going to be one of the really important all-times player.

    By the way, do you know that he says he likes very much playing with Raúl López?

    I've been checking his stats:

    #13 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage(0.505)
    #7 in the NBA in Free-Throw Percentage(0.892)
    #9 in the NBA in Steals Per Game(1.88)
    #8 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(2.31)
    #17 in the NBA in Free Throws(74.0)
    #17 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game(2.9)
    #10 in the NBA in Steals(30.0)
    #9 in the NBA in Blocks(37.0)
    #18 in the NBA in Double-doubles(5.0)
    #18 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(6.11)
    #6 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(374.0)
    #6 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking(23.38)
    #8 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes(30.9)

    .. I think they're impressionant... aren't they?

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  • #2
    (originally posted by, mvblair, 12-04-2003, 06:54 AM)

    I also love Kirilenko. I love to watch him play. He has such a mesmorizing game, I feel almost hypnotized when I watch him!

    Thanks for posting those statistics, Mayte. But I've got some impressive statistics for Kirilenko too. Last night, AK47 scored 19 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists and had 8 steals and 5 blocks!!! That's incredible!!

    I think that Kirilenko has to be a candidate for defensive player of the year, along with Ben Wallace and Ron Artest.

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    • #3
      (originally posted by, 11Aistis83, 12-04-2003, 01:27 PM)

      i recently subscribed to sports illustrated magazine, and there is an article about Utah Jazz. people are already comparing Andrei Kirilenko and Carlos Arroyo with Stockton and Malone
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      • #4
        (originally posted by, mvblair, 12-11-2003, 09:33 AM)

        New Hairstyle

        I'm not a person who gossips a lot or comments on a player's looks, but have any of you seen Andrei Kirilenko lately? Look at his new hair-do. I think I like his old look better .

        Anyhow, he had a great game against New York last night, with 10 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 steals, and 5 blocks! Those are really great numbers!
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        • #5
          (originally posted by, mayteromanl, 12-12-2003, 05:37 AM)

          He reminds me David Beckam in Korea Worldchamp. of Soccer 2002. But I also agree he looks better before.... but you said 12 rebounds... then he's allowed to do whatever he wants

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          • #6
            (originally posted 12-12-2003, 07:45 AM)

            Stuart says "Mo'Mo'Hawks!"
            Hey I think it looks great and refreshing to the mop-tops that Euros bring or the corn-rows/bald-heads that Americans normally have. I call for more mo-hawks and afros. Bring back the funk!

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            • #7
              (originally posted by, mvblair, 12-12-2003, 09:26 AM)

              Honestly, it's kind of fun that he changed his hair. I think he looks less intimidating now, and a little more fun. The reviews are in though, and everybody seems to like Kirilenko's hair. He's getting a lot of attention for it!

              From the Salt Lake Tribune Andrei's 'do
              Andrei Kirilenko has big plans for the Jazz's upcoming six-game homestand. Big, as in, big hair.

              The mohawk he grew briefly earlier this month, will return, "but it'll be a little bit different this time," Kirilenko said. "It was a mohawk before, but I didn't like the short sides, so I'm letting it grow now."

              Kirilenko, who spikes his hair with gel before every game but otherwise rarely uses the gel, said he is amused by all the attention his hairstyles attract, but he doesn't mind. "People ask me, so I try to do something that will interest them," he said. "Wait and see."
              From the Desert News
              NOTES: Kirilenko has modified his Mohawk hairdo again, cutting the sides shorter. "I'm just 22 years old. I need to try everything. I just like the haircut," he said, adding he might change it again in a few weeks and that he's had this hairdo while playing in Russia, too, so it's not really new to him — Kirilenko moved up to No. 1 on the CBS Sportsline.com positional power rankings of small forwards this week....
              From an Elie Seckbach Interview
              ...Back in the locker room I asked Kobe Bryant what he made of Utah's star Andri Kirilenko's hair, who showed up that night with a European looking mohawk: "Ha…" responded Bryant "that was cool, he looked liked Mr. T."...
              And I don't want to be a fashion critic, but maybe he shouldn't dye his hair. I tend not to like dyed hair, especially that yellow look, which Darko Milicic had at the beginning of the season. Maybe he could keep the mohawk hairdo, but lose the dye.
              I should be a Hollywood designer or something.

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              • #8
                (originally posted by, hagakure, 12-13-2003, 08:04 AM)

                Originally posted by mayteromanl
                He reminds me David Beckam in Korea Worldchamp. of Soccer 2002. But I also agree he looks better before.... but you said 12 rebounds... then he's allowed to do whatever he wants

                Mayte
                hehe that's what I thought too. Jaric had the same haircut last summer as well and had dyed the hair in the middle.
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                • #9
                  (originally posted 12-13-2003, 08:43 AM)

                  change is good
                  Americans tend to lean a little conservative on change unless introduced through MTV or some other mass US medium. I think this is especially true for American athletes... so its nice to have a little influence from the Euros

                  Go AK

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                  • #10
                    (originally posted by, hagakure, 12-13-2003, 09:04 AM)

                    I have noticed that too. I have heard various of why americans seem to be so conservative on so many issues and I think religion has a lot to do with that.
                    The first white populations mostly from Britain who migrated to America and wiped all the native populations of the continent off the face of the earth were members of christian sects and tried to make their faith synonymous with the new country they were going to create.
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                    • #11
                      (originally posted by, mvblair, 12-13-2003, 09:07 AM)

                      Originally posted by stuart
                      Americans tend to lean a little conservative on change unless introduced through MTV...
                      Dude, you'd better not be calling me a conservative!

                      Seriously, I think it's cool for players to change their looks. It's fun to see their different styles and looks. But man, I can't change my looks...I'm gonna' stick with my part-on-the-side 'do. If I ever wore a mohawk, I'd never have a chance at a political career.

                      Matt

                      PS- Of course, I won't ever have a chance at a political career, because I used to have a subscription to the Worker's Party Bulletin. I think that generally rules out any chance at public office.
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                      • #12
                        (originally posted by, mvblair, 12-13-2003, 09:46 AM)

                        Originally posted by hagakure
                        I have noticed that too. I have heard various of why americans seem to be so conservative on so many issues and I think religion has a lot to do with that.
                        The first white populations mostly from Britain who migrated to America and wiped all the native populations of the continent off the face of the earth were members of christian sects and tried to make their faith synonymous with the new country they were going to create.
                        It's interesting that you mention this, Haga. I'm very interested in these subjects as a student and teacher of history.

                        First, I'll say that yes, I think that Americans on the whole are more conservative than Europeans. But I don't think the reasons why we are a conservative people are not because of the European settlers.

                        Many of the European settlers were, of course, strict Protestants who had recently seperated from the Catholic Church. Protestantism was a somewhat liberal force in Europe at the time (although it was also anti-modernist in that they tried to make church like the first, original Paulist churches before the rise of Catholicism). The Protestants who came to America didn't face the Native Americans as much as we think they did. Yes, there were wholesale massacres of Native Americans in isolated incidents, but for the most part, there was relative peace in the 1500s and 1600s (the peak times of Puritanism, the very conservative Protestant movement in North America and England).

                        In the 1700s, colonial immigrants changed from being religious "refugees" to mercantilists and capitalists. These people were, at the time, radically liberal, and they based the American Revolution on the ideas of John Locke (among others), especially the idea of Natural Laws of basic human rights. Many of these American thinkers did not even call themselves Christians. They called themselves Deists, which is a Protestant theory that recognizes the idea that there is a God and that God's will is seen through nature-something that humans cannot see. Contrary to popular belief, Deists included almost all of the Founding Fathers and Framers of the Constitution, including Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, John Adams, James Madison, and the revolutionary generals Ethan Allen and George Washington. In fact, Paine said "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all." This is why the US Constitution places such a huge emphasis on religious freedom. Thus, it is incorrect when people say that the Founding Fathers were strictly Christians. They weren't. In fact, the most professed Christian thinkers who attended the nation-founding conferences were Quakers, a Protestant religion that is today very liberal.

                        I think that the roots of American conservatism lie in the Westward expansion of the country. After the Revolution, America expanded West (this is when the real destruction of the Native Americans began). As the country expanded West, into the Ohio River Valley, and eventually the Mississippi River Valley, Protestantism became more popular with American politicians and public servents. Honestly, I'm not really sure why this happened. The question is: why did conservatism come from national expansion?. I've thought a lot about this, and I can't come up with a definative answer. Perhaps part of the answer is because Americans who went West depended almost exclusively on themselves for security and prosperity. Everybody who went West had a gun and a desire to get their own land. They wanted to have their life on their own terms. Is this the answer? I don't know.

                        ...Sorry to write so much. This is a fascinating topic for me. I'm really glad that you brought it up, Haga, but I hope that you didn't read all of what I wrote. I think I'm kind of rambling on and on and on and on.

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                        • #13
                          (originally posted by, hagakure, 12-13-2003, 03:40 PM)

                          haha no don't be sorry. I really enjoyed reading that.
                          I'd like to say a few things on that too, but it's too late right now and I'm tired
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                          • #14
                            (originally posted 12-14-2003, 07:14 PM)

                            ooooh essay
                            Ooooh, i am soo going to read that Matt.

                            Will have to wait until Monday when I am at work!



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                            • #15
                              (originally posted by Crazy Fan From Idaho, 12-14-2003, 07:32 PM)

                              Originally posted by mvblair
                              Everybody who went West had a gun and a desire to get their own land. They wanted to have their life on their own terms. Matt
                              Three cheers for the Idaho way of life!!!! We are still that way.

                              Idaho: Whose liberals are considered conservative by the rest of America.
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