USSR vs Yugoslavia in Eurobasket 2011.

[Test2]

Hello everybody, what do You think... if USSR and Yugoslavia would suddenly be restored, how their rosters would look? Perhaps there would be no naturalized players, so don't include them. Also who do You think would be a better team?

Successor states of USSR: Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

Successor states of Yugoslavia: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Kosovo.

To make imaginary USSR roster is easier than to make Yugoslavian, because there are less countries who have high level basketball players. Countries like Kyrgyzstan and all who has ending "stan" suck at basketball and I don't heard any good player who could be included in the roster. I personally watched only few games this Eurobasket, so I have no idea how rosters should look like.

 

[Adon2]

Yugoslavia has an advantage on guard position because of McCalebb.
Teo can eliminate this advantage if he stays enough time in the court though.

A problem for team USSR could be that Lithuanians would never pass the ball to the Russians and vice versa. I can also predict epic battles under the rim between Lithuanians and Russians for the defensive rebounds.

I don't know. The whole idea is kinky but interesting.

 

[pohani komarac2]

Hello everybody, what do You think... if USSR and Yugoslavia would suddenly be restored, how their rosters would look? Perhaps there would be no naturalized players, so don't include them. Also who do You think would be a better team?

Successor states of USSR: Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

Successor states of Yugoslavia: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Kosovo.

To make imaginary USSR roster is easier than to make Yugoslavian, because there are less countries who have high level basketball players. Countries like Kyrgyzstan and all who has ending "stan" suck at basketball and I don't heard any good player who could be included in the roster. I personally watched only few games this Eurobasket, so I have no idea how rosters should look like.

for me it's much easier to make ex yugo rooster because i know players better

anway, i don't think yugoslavia would be that good at moment. great depth would be there, but lack of superstars would be problem

it would be more like early 80is team when first golden generation aged and before 2nd golden genaration matured

 

[Gytaz2]

Yugoslavia has an advantage on guard position because of McCalebb.

The OP mentioned that there should be no naturalized players, so let's not mention McCaleb here.

A problem for team USSR could be that Lithuanians would never pass the ball to the Russians and vice versa. I can also predict epic battles under the rim between Lithuanians and Russians for the defensive rebounds.

Wouldn't Serbs and Croats have the same problem too?

 

[Adon2]

The OP mentioned that there should be no naturalized players, so let's not mention McCaleb here.

Fair enough. I didn't notice this point.

Wouldn't Serbs and Croats have the same problem too?

No, Croatian and Serbs wouldn't (couldn't) have epic battles under the rim
I agree that none would pass the ball to Croatians though. And when I say "Croatians", I mean Tomic Tomic himself will never touch the ball so he wouldn't pass it to anyone.

 

[EpicFail2]

Hello everybody, what do You think... if USSR and Yugoslavia would suddenly be restored, how their rosters would look? Perhaps there would be no naturalized players, so don't include them. Also who do You think would be a better team?

Successor states of USSR: Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

Successor states of Yugoslavia: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Kosovo.

To make imaginary USSR roster is easier than to make Yugoslavian, because there are less countries who have high level basketball players. Countries like Kyrgyzstan and all who has ending "stan" suck at basketball and I don't heard any good player who could be included in the roster. I personally watched only few games this Eurobasket, so I have no idea how rosters should look like.

Kosovo is not a state...please don't provocate...

 

[Mermeri_Disledim2]

Russia+Lithuania alone would beat yugoslavia.

But the question is can they win against spain?

 

[YellowGreenRed2]

i think macedonia plus some serbians (krstic, savanovic, keselj) would easily beat spain, russia, lithuania

 

[pohani komarac2]

The OP mentioned that there should be no naturalized players, so let's not mention McCaleb here.



Wouldn't Serbs and Croats have the same problem too?

once been said by one reporter before war: "basketball is not true face of us"

us=ex yugoslavians

if there is one thing that conect us, that we get along well it's basketball

here....things were already boilng. jugoplastika in belegrade. one man played so well he got standing ovation from partizan fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbJkJuF8ZQ

similar happend when bozidar maljkovic was in split back in 05.

on the other hand prosinecki might be hero of red star, but during that period something like that never would happen

and belive me in evrey other forum besides basketball ones we are not "so kind" to each other

 

[Test2]

Lets assume that there would be no problems on a team, players are friendly and don't care about politics. Kosovo is not a state? Whatever, it is a part of Yugoslavia.

Anyone want to present how rosters would look like? Please also include injured players.

 

[pohani komarac2]

udrih, teodosic, dragic, jaric, ukic, planinic, popovic, lakovic, ilijevski.......

becirevic, rakocevic, pavlovic, giricek, vujacic, djedovic tepic........

stojakovic, nahbar, keselj, bjelica, tomas, bogdanovic, dasic, radmanovic.....

lorbek, teletovic, mirotic, loncar, banic, savanovic, erceg, velickovic....

krstic, brezec, nesterovic, tomic, barac, kasun, perovic, milicic, antic, pekovic.....


here some potetial candidates, you pick

 

[euskadi2]

you add mirotic then you can add preldzic

 

[LuDux2]

Off to Wikipedia to compile list of succesor states of Ottoman Empire

 

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Yugoslavia:


1- Teodosic / Goran Dragic / Ilievski
2- Rakocevic / Vujacic / Tepic
3- Stojakovic / Nachbar / Bogdanovic
4- E. Lorbek / Velickovic / Teletovic
5- Pekovic / Krstic / Tomic

USSR:

1- Jasikevicius / Kalnietis / Bykov
2- Shved / Kaukenas / Pocius
3- Kirilenko / Siskauskas / Jasaitis
4- Khryapa / Kleiza / Jankunas
5- Pachulia / Mozgov / Valanciunas

Probably left quite some players out, but off top of my head

LuDux, please don't...

 

[wardjdim2]

Yugoslavia:
G- Teodosic, G. Dragic, Ukic
G- B. Udrih, Bogdanovic
F- Stojakovic, Nachbar
F- E. Lorbek, Teletovic
C- Pekovic, Krstic, Tomic

USSR:
G- Jasikevicius, Kalnietis, Shved
G- Kaukenas, Pocius
F- Kirilenko, Siskauskas
F- Kleiza, Khryapa
C- Valanciunas, Pachulia, Biedrins

 

[auris12]

Yugoslavia:
G- Teodosic, G. Dragic, Ukic
G- B. Udrih, Bogdanovic
F- Stojakovic, Nachbar
F- E. Lorbek, Teletovic
C- Pekovic, Krstic, Tomic

USSR:
G- Jasikevicius, Kalnietis, Shved
G- Kaukenas, Pocius
F- Kirilenko, Siskauskas
F- Kleiza, Khryapa
C- Valanciunas, Pachulia, Biedrins

Maybe we should include only the players who are in this eurobasket.
Or make it another,ideal,roster.
But i am very intrigued by this idea.
So in this tournament we had Latvia,Ukraine,Georgia,Russia and Lithuania from ex soviet block.
So,in no particular order
Blums,Kuksiks
Zaza ,Sanikidze
Lishchuk(maybe)
Kirilenko,Chriapa,Shved and probably Mozgov.
Kaukenas,Kalnietis,Jasaitis and/or Javtokas/Valanciunas

I just picked outstanding players for this tournament in my opinion,not necessarily who would make imaginary final 12 roster

 

[scream22072]

funny thing i think ussr side like it was during soviet union would be made of russian and lithuanian players.. well maybe we could add pachullia

 

[auris12]

funny thing i think ussr side like it was during soviet union would be made of russian and lithuanian players..

Not true.Valters was one heck of the player,maybe more talented then some of our players too.(especially Chomicius).Eiden was decent too.
Volkov was not Russian.So many others.
Please.do not bullshit here with your comments if you do not know the facts

 

[Hater2]

I thought Yugoslavia was part of the Otoman Empire !! oh Wait we are in the 21st century !! yeah i´ve just realized !! that´s the reason Ginobili and Scola doesn't play for Spain in this EC !

 

[JureEe2]

udrih, teodosic, dragic, jaric, ukic, planinic, popovic, lakovic, ilijevski.......

becirevic, rakocevic, pavlovic, giricek, vujacic, djedovic tepic........

stojakovic, nahbar, keselj, bjelica, tomas, bogdanovic, dasic, radmanovic.....

lorbek, teletovic, mirotic, loncar, banic, savanovic, erceg, velickovic....

krstic, brezec, nesterovic, tomic, barac, kasun, perovic, milicic, antic, pekovic.....


here some potetial candidates, you pick

maybe begic too? he is naturalized player for slovenija, but he wouldnt be for yugoslavia