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UAAP season 87

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cha34 said:
What about DLSU? Whether there's actual proof that they used that money to fund DLSU, I don't see La Salle fans acting like hypocrites.

UP fans are notorious for acting holier than thou and for their virtue signaling. When pressed, they always perform some mental gymnastics to justify their sh*t.
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La Salle fans are the biggest virtue-signalers and hypocrites in the UAAP:

1. Calling out UP for its alleged POGO-funded program yet forgetting that La Salle benefitted from Danding's Coco Levy fund money for decades. Half of La Salle's championships belong to the Filipino people. lol

2. Calling out other teams for talent hoarding yet forgetting that they basically stole Mason Amos from Ateneo.

3. Calling out other teams for dirty play when their own coach Topex built a career out of spitting at other players. And mind you, this thing is well documented. lol

La Salle fans should stop their good boy schtick. Your team is just as degenerate as everyone else.
 
Tuck said:
devils advocate question so the ncaa was right in banning fsa’s for development? Cause Stevens, Udodo and Alter have taken a step back heck 7 was cut
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If Udodo is supposed to be the problem, then how come he's included in the shortchanged players? The problem is over-recruitment. There is a shortage of 6'7+ players in the country, if they were in other teams they would play significant minutes.
 
If Mike Philipps going to spend all of his college years, would that be possible for him to be eligible as local right after graduating or before getting drafted in PBA? I think the timing will also be good as it will be right in time for the 2027 WC and hopefully 2028 Olympics.

I could really see him as the best stopper the Philippines could have right now.
 
Metta said:
If Udodo is supposed to be the problem, then how come he's included in the shortchanged players? The problem is over-recruitment. There is a shortage of 6'7+ players in the country, if they were in other teams they would play significant minutes.
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yup. look at pre. in an importless team, he'd probably be forced to play center. he's doing a great job as a face up 4 now. with tounkara, ust has at least tried to play crisostomo as a 4. he's shooting jumpers and has sometimes extended his range to 3. doubt that happens if ust played importless. DLSU, which hasn't overrecruited 5's for this season, have mike and raven playing well.

also, most imports in the uaap have been mid to terrible and are not impacting local's minutes anyway.
 
IPC said:
Gab Demisana was already there in UPIS before last year, and Malick was still in the team, but UP still went to get Pablo, Gagate, and Alter.

Over-recruitment will have a negative effect on player development.
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if you look at the sheer volume of recruits both teams have made, i think DLSU beats UP. it's just that i feel like DLSU has been more strategic in their (over)recruitment as they have recruited with the aim of addressing specific needs.

UP on the other hand just recruited bigs who all played similar styles. kinda feels like they recruited some of these guys just to prevent them from going to other teams.
 
dubidub said:
yup. look at pre. in an importless team, he'd probably be forced to play center. he's doing a great job as a face up 4 now. with tounkara, ust has at least tried to play crisostomo as a 4. he's shooting jumpers and has sometimes extended his range to 3. doubt that happens if ust played importless. DLSU, which hasn't overrecruited 5's for this season, have mike and raven playing well.

also, most imports in the uaap have been mid to terrible and are not impacting local's minutes anyway.
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Let's be honest. Calls favor guards in the UAAP just like in the previous NBA seasons. Guards can charge through defenders in the air and always get a foul call. There's no principle of verticality when it comes to driving guards. Centers have to literally jump backwards to avoid calls. This is a high level defensive skill that also needs high speed laterals that is above Fiba standards IMO. These guys need to be slimmed down in order to catch-up. The side effect is they become weaker on offense and rebounding. Case in point, Malick Diouf. To date only Kouame has been equally dominant on offense and defense. The moment they are strong and bulky enough to be dominant in the paint they usually are slower on laterals so they opt to just be slimmed down. Also, the physicality allowed on post-ups is more. Case in point was FEU's FSA during RJ Abarrientos' time. A strong offensive player but with the unequal physicality on defense allowed he was overall a negative because he could be defended with strong physicality but he could not apply physicality on guards on defense.

If calls were more like Fiba the FSA's would be eating our guards on defense by their sheer height and reach.
 
Nokura had another outstanding game: he had 30-9-8 blocks.

Also, Miguel Yniguez had back to back great games. He's a big guard that can score, rebound and pass. He reminds me of Dwight Ramos.
 
How many playing years does EJ Gollena have left? If I'm not mistaken, he served a residency year before he is eligible to play for La Salle as he came from Lyceum.
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lem0nadi said:
If Mike Philipps going to spend all of his college years, would that be possible for him to be eligible as local right after graduating or before getting drafted in PBA? I think the timing will also be good as it will be right in time for the 2027 WC and hopefully 2028 Olympics.

I could really see him as the best stopper the Philippines could have right now.
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Take with a grain of salt, but there were rumors that early on, DLSU wasn't too keen in helping with Mike being declared as FIBA eligible as a local. Once he gets declared as local, he can then be considered as an Asian Import for the B-League/KBL, which meant that there was a chance he left early.
 
EvanNelle24 said:
How many playing years does EJ Gollena have left? If I'm not mistaken, he served a residency year before he is eligible to play for La Salle as he came from Lyceum.
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I believe he has his full 5 years intact. He never played for lpu and moved to dlsu before he was 20 y/o. So age wise he should be fine.
 
cha34 said:
Nokura had another outstanding game: he had 30-9-8 blocks.

Also, Miguel Yniguez had back to back great games. He's a big guard that can score, rebound and pass. He reminds me of Dwight Ramos.
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Are these games accessible online?
 
mrjumbo03 said:
Take with a grain of salt, but there were rumors that early on, DLSU wasn't too keen in helping with Mike being declared as FIBA eligible as a local. Once he gets declared as local, he can then be considered as an Asian Import for the B-League/KBL, which meant that there was a chance he left early.
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Good point, but I don’t think there is any chance of him getting localized while still playing college basketball here. According to FIBA rules, aside from spending years in college, one must also play in the domestic league of a certain country, which in this case is the PBA.

Even if La Salle is willing to help him become a local under FIBA, there is no way for him to achieve that unless he plays in the PBA.

However, if a miracle happens and he somehow becomes a local while still playing for La Salle, you are correct in saying that DLSU wouldn't assist him in the localization process. They can't afford to lose Mike, especially with UP having recruited strong big men whom he will need to match up against.​

Seeing Mike as an Asian import sounds so good though. Definitely would have a world import stopper role much like AJ Edu.
 
cha34 said:
What about DLSU? Whether there's actual proof that they used that money to fund DLSU, I don't see La Salle fans acting like hypocrites.

UP fans are notorious for acting holier than thou and for their virtue signaling. When pressed, they always perform some mental gymnastics to justify their sh*t.
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Proof? Hahaha Know your history. Study the history of the Coco Levy fund and Danding Cojuangco. Tiktok pa more. He was given the La Sallian Master award. haha DLSU gave a very positive characterization of Danding when he died.

https://www.dlsu.edu.ph/wp-content/uploads/pdf/stratcom/2401/2020/2401V51N14FN.pdf There's the link showing the hypocrisy of DLSU. Turning a blind eye to corruption when it benefits DLSU.
 
live_evil said:
Proof? Hahaha Know your history. Study the history of the Coco Levy fund and Danding Cojuangco. Tiktok pa more. He was given the La Sallian Master award. haha DLSU gave a very positive characterization of Danding when he died.

https://www.dlsu.edu.ph/wp-content/uploads/pdf/stratcom/2401/2020/2401V51N14FN.pdf There's the link showing the hypocrisy of DLSU. Turning a blind eye to corruption when it benefits DLSU.
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Alright, and? That circumstantial evidence doesn’t prove anything. Logically speaking, he has enough wealth to fund the school without needing that fund. But for the sake of argument, let’s assume it’s true that he used that money to support DLSU. Where are all these self-righteous individuals who act like victims, yet turn a blind eye when they benefit from it? Are they from DLSU or UP?

You presented evidence that doesn’t definitively support your claim, and you also failed to recognize the hypocrisy of UP fans.

It seems to me that you need to sharpen your critical thinking skills more than anyone here needs a history lesson from Google.
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live_evil said:
Proof? Hahaha Know your history. Study the history of the Coco Levy fund and Danding Cojuangco. Tiktok pa more. He was given the La Sallian Master award. haha DLSU gave a very positive characterization of Danding when he died.

https://www.dlsu.edu.ph/wp-content/uploads/pdf/stratcom/2401/2020/2401V51N14FN.pdf There's the link showing the hypocrisy of DLSU. Turning a blind eye to corruption when it benefits DLSU.
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This is true. Sportswashing is real, be it Jonvic or Danding or even MVP with that mining issue which Ateneo decided to let go when MVP withdrew support.
 
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