UAAP season 87

[thebigdeal2]

Every great basketball program has to rebuild at some point. Did you actually expect Ateneo to win championships forever? lol

Heck, even La Salle had to wait for for someone like KQ to win another chip after Ben Mbala's departure.

La Salle never sucked this bad. Even in the seasons they didnt made the final four they were a 5-7 win team and always remain in contention until the last playing date of the elims

And honestly, La Salle’s roster every season is always good enough to reach the final four. It’s the coaching instability and offcourt drama that causes their downfall. Now wittu coach Topex there appears to be a change in culture that will set them up for sustained success

 

[Crustacean2]

La Salle never sucked this bad. Even in the seasons they didnt made the final four they were a 5-7 win team and always remain in contention until the last playing date of the elims

And honestly, La Salle’s roster every season is always good enough to reach the final four. It’s the coaching instability and offcourt drama that causes their downfall. Now wittu coach Topex there appears to be a change in culture that will set them up for sustained success

La Salle's "dark ages" is actually the years prior to Topex, but I agree that roster wasn't the problem. Imagine having what... 4 coaching changes in that span? It's difficult for players to have to adjust to a new system that often, it's a wonder there were not a lot of transfers out from the team in that period.

Worst record since they joined UAAP is 5-9 (good enough for 6th place in all those instances it happened).

 

[thebigdeal2]

La Salle's "dark ages" is actually the years prior to Topex, but I agree that roster wasn't the problem. Imagine having what... 4 coaching changes in that span? It's difficult for players to have to adjust to a new system that often, it's a wonder there were not a lot of transfers out from the team in that period.

Worst record since they joined UAAP is 5-9 (good enough for 6th place in all those instances it happened).

Include as well 2009-2011 seasons as the first dark age.

Yes, now you see player development as veteran players dont get cut after two seasons. Before you hardly see Archers play full five tears as they get replaced by rookies who will follow the same cycle if another bluchip recruit comes in.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

watch some of the games in pilipinas live app.. it’s also available? in varsity channel

sky jazul of ateneo and kallos should be invited for future BG teams..

daep is around 17-18

UE is still undefeated..

Good Day Sir SK,

thanks for the info.

very much appreciated.

in my own personal observation

sky and kallos are promising but need more ripening

as for that Daep kid he is already ripe for the picking

if he is now in the 17 to 18 yr. old bracket

well we do hope he is still cover for the next U18 batch

age category.

 

[greenarcher2]

La Salle's worst days in recent memory was the Bader Malabes era.

 

[OverratedTabBaldwin2]

La Salle never sucked this bad. Even in the seasons they didnt made the final four they were a 5-7 win team and always remain in contention until the last playing date of the elims

And honestly, La Salle’s roster every season is always good enough to reach the final four. It’s the coaching instability and offcourt drama that causes their downfall. Now wittu coach Topex there appears to be a change in culture that will set them up for sustained success
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Ateneo has won 10 chips since 2000. It's the most successful program in the past 24 years yet casuals claim La Salle's program is better. lol

How many chips did La Salle win since 2000? Six. Yeah, La Salle's program is really superior to Ateneo's. lol

 

[OverratedTabBaldwin2]

You can rebuild but schools like Dlsu and admu can’t get last place on the standings. Heck they should always be decent

Yet Ateneo has 10 chips since the 2000s. The most by any program this century. Season 87 for Ateneo is like having the top student in class who scored badly on one exam.

 

[Sikatrix2]

Yet Ateneo has 10 chips since the 2000s. The most by any program this century. Season 87 for Ateneo is like having the top student in class who scored badly on one exam.

The UAAP is not a random number generator. There are reasons why Ateneo is failing and those reasons are within there control.

 

[OverratedTabBaldwin2]

The UAAP is not a random number generator. There are reasons why Ateneo is failing and those reasons are within there control.

The UAAP is about winning chips. Ateneo has won the most number of chips this century by any UAAP team with 10. Numbers don't lie.

 

[gospursgo2]

Amos aint the only issue here. 5 rotation guys left with years remaining. Kai, Mason, Geo, Jared and Gab. Thats a lot of guys and I think if they just kept half of them theyll be in a better spot. Even final four favorites. Im not privy to what happened but thats just poor roster retention.

For those that turned pro, dont think its ateneo's fault. Those guys believed that they are ready and tab and ateneo wont stand in their way in chasing their pro dreams. What i do fault them is the poor succession plan. They couldve done 2 things that could have help them avoid this nightmare season. One is if they would have built up their jrs team, same way nu, feu and adamson did, i mean even ue and ust have also done so recently then even if they had a hard time getting solid prospects, atleast they would have their own they can call up. After kai and lopez's batch, only porter if im not mistaken has been a blue chip recruit. Another is they need to adapt to the times and start recruiting or getting transfers locally. Most of the filfors they recruited outside of the blue chippers have been non factors for the team. Some didnt even make team A. They have the funds so maybe its time to invest in recruiting locally.

 

[OverratedTabBaldwin2]

To further drive home the point of the sheer dominance of the Ateneo program since the 2000s, they've had 1 5-peat and one three-peat during this period. So to the doomers on this board, just sit down. Ateneo will be fine.

 

[Crustacean2]

For those that turned pro, dont think its ateneo's fault. Those guys believed that they are ready and tab and ateneo wont stand in their way in chasing their pro dreams. What i do fault them is the poor succession plan. They couldve done 2 things that could have help them avoid this nightmare season. One is if they would have built up their jrs team, same way nu, feu and adamson did, i mean even ue and ust have also done so recently then even if they had a hard time getting solid prospects, atleast they would have their own they can call up. After kai and lopez's batch, only porter if im not mistaken has been a blue chip recruit. Another is they need to adapt to the times and start recruiting or getting transfers locally. Most of the filfors they recruited outside of the blue chippers have been non factors for the team. Some didnt even make team A. They have the funds so maybe its time to invest in recruiting locally.

AHS has not been a good pipeline for them for several years now. Who were the last impactful AHS players? Nieto and Ildefonso?

NU and Adamson are not really good examples for building up their Juniors teams, as most of their Juniors stars move to other colleges anyway. FEU is the only one in recent times whose HS stars stay for their college teams.

 

[Tuck2]

Teams will soon realize spending to keep players like KQ, Tamayo might actually be cheaper than trying to replace them and ending up with duds

 

[gospursgo2]

AHS has not been a good pipeline for them for several years now. Who were the last impactful AHS players? Nieto and Ildefonso?

NU and Adamson are not really good examples for building up their Juniors teams, as most of their Juniors stars move to other colleges anyway. FEU is the only one in recent times whose HS stars stay for their college teams.

Yes, the ahs pipeline has dried up. Which is unfortunate because the school has facilities, the funding and the population to produce a quality team.

Ill give you adamson on that but what im talking about is building up their hs program which they did. Just did a poor job of retaining their guys. And as for the Nu bullpups leaving, it has more to do with the goldwin exodus but once Napa stabilized the situation, most of their guys opted to stay. If you look at their lineup now, 6 came from the bullpups, that number rises even higher if you check their team b.

 

[thebigdeal2]

Ateneo has won 10 chips since 2000. It's the most successful program in the past 24 years yet casuals claim La Salle's program is better. lol

How many chips did La Salle win since 2000? Six. Yeah, La Salle's program is really superior to Ateneo's. lol

Lol why so defensive? No one is contesting that Ateneo was more succesfful in the past two decades .!I just pointed out La Salle never had this kind of season that Ateneo has now lol

 

[cha342]

Luis Pablo is soft. I just saw a 5'8 Kean Baclaan back him down in the post and get to the rim. I thought Hubilla was just older that's why he was able to abuse the LSGH tower back then but Pablo, despite his size and weight, doesn't use his body well. Now that he lost weight, it'll be that much harder for him to hold his own in the post.

 

[FilWelsh2]

Agusan (Butuan) is like a farm province of UP Maroons. First they had Jun Manzo on their 2021 champion team. Their current crew they have a pair of Agusanons, JD Cagulangan and Janjan Felicilda… fight, fight mga dodong…

 

[Crustacean2]

Agusan (Butuan) is like a farm province of UP Maroons. First they had Jun Manzo on their 2021 champion team. Their current crew they have a pair of Agusanons, JD Cagulangan and Janjan Felicilda… fight, fight mga dodong…

Two of those played for other college teams first so the “farm province” thing doesn’t check out LMAO

 

[live_evil2]

Make Sage Tolentino watch the UAAP finals and he will see what he is missing. One look at the fervor of the fans during the finals will surely make Sage love adobo hahaha

 

[EvanNelle242]

No, Amos committed to DLSU a long time ago before the FIBA experience, which is when the news broke. There's photo evidence that he spoke with Mayor Zamora to talk about DLSU before FIBA too.

There was an Ateneo insider who claimed that Mason left Ateneo because of the promised higher allowance and the chance to play the wing position, among other things, which never materialized.

Mason himself said he would have gone straight to DLSU because of his mom's ties with the school for college, but Tab's persistence won him over. He initially only committed to Ateneo High School, not college.

Mason Amos is only eligible to play for 2 years at La Salle under the new UAAP eligibility rules for transferees right?
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