Turkish Prospects

[Toruko2]

I was never ready to give up on Omer Yasir Kucuk and I am still high on him. He looks mentally ready to lead a team and he is very successful in terms of adjusting the tempo, he has a good touch around the rim too. He just needs to work on this push shot. He is a 10 times better defender than

 

[Camoka2]

I think it is overally a bad season for Turkish basketball. No world cup, no Euroleague final four. Adem started season slow, then he adjusted his game but unfortunately he got injured. UCLA had potential to win it all with Adem and Clark. In this scenario, Adem could be a first rounder. But now, there is a possibility to be undrafted next year. For Buyuktuncel, he had bigger role in the beginning of the season. Tofaş used him main defender against point guards like McFadden. He had a game with 4/4 3pt in Europe. But then he turned a guy just walked around the court. Both our biggest prospects from 03/04 generation finished the season negstively. Also we do not have real prospects from 05/06 generations. I hope we will win the Olympic tournament with Şeng

 

[Toruko2]

I think it is overally a bad season for Turkish basketball. No world cup, no Euroleague final four. Adem started season slow, then he adjusted his game but unfortunately he got injured. UCLA had potential to win it all with Adem and Clark. In this scenario, Adem could be a first rounder. But now, there is a possibility to be undrafted next year. For Buyuktuncel, he had bigger role in the beginning of the season. Tofaş used him main defender against point guards like McFadden. He had a game with 4/4 3pt in Europe. But then he turned a guy just walked around the court. Both our biggest prospects from 03/04 generation finished the season negstively. Also we do not have real prospects from 05/06 generations. I hope we will win the Olympic tournament with Şeng

In terms of team success you are right but in terms of lift players to the next level it was a good season. Sengun really improved his stats in every category. Adem Bonas offensive role was very limited but there is no comparison to his game of 2 years ago. Buyuktuncel could have a better year for sure but he also can be considered a serious BSL player.

And there were no major players in Turkish teams like Bitim or Kabaca in the last 10 years or useful role players like Yilmaz. You cant always have a successful year let alone EL success never depended on Turkish players

 

[Ibo2]

Has anyone watched 2008 born prospect Ahmet kerim andic? He's got an offer from baskonia and he's going to workout for Barcelona in the upcoming days. I've watched a few clips but it's really hard to tell if he's legit

 

[TurkfromGermany2]

Hi guys! Thank you for your articles about Turkish prospects. I also share T​urkish young players on Twitter, maybe you've seen it. What do you think about the U18 candidate squad, how do you think the 12-man squad will be?

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Im a fan of you https://twitter.com/canpekerpekcan?lang=de. You are on a good way. Your development in this season was great. You must seperate between important things and unimportant things. Important is if Ege Akcay had 2 positions as PnR facilitator in a game, but the 40 points in the same game of Mehmet Efe Teoman is not important.
https://twitter.com/Dorukaraca/status/1655954849568276486/video/1 this user for example thinks, Mete Pacaci is a serious prospect. Unfortunately that is the level of turkish scouting.

I would not expect too much in terms of good bb or promising performances of turkish players, these things almost never happen because of turkish coaches/system. Even our 96 generation never had really good tournaments, ugly bb + not very dominant performances of the big talents(Okben Ulubay, Egemen Guven), only Furkan Korkmaz had 2 great tournaments with the 96 generation(U18-2014 + U19-2015), thats it. Last year Berke Buyuktuncels performance at U18 for example was one/(the) of the best performances in the last years from a turkish prospect. The biggest reason for this was the clear cut leader role giving from coach.

Only talent matters therefore we must focus on individuel performances from the most important players of each team(U20-19-18-16). For the 05 generation its Melih Tunca and Mehmet Efe Demirel(ok we can say Melih Tunca and the other 2 PGs). Efe Demirel is a much more talented big as he showed in ANGT or general in this season, in the end of the season he showed better performances, he needs a physical transformation, especially for his lower body, its not easy to find such an offensive versatile turkish big, a real 210 player and he is ready to fight, not a softy. Most likely Coach will give Emir Arda Sivas the leader role. Berkay Donmez, Berk Can Akin, Arda Ozdogan are all solid talents too. It will be interesting what will show Demir Dogan. Lets see if coach will give Ege Akcay a role, Yagiz Aksu will be in team too but this is not good because he will play at U18 next year too and will steal minutes from Melih Tunca etc.

@ Ibo, yes i saw him too and he didnt impress me too. Hates contact on an unbelievable way, too slow and too big......Turkish bb had Bora Apak(99) as a similar comparison and now where is Bora Apak?​

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[peker2]

TurkfromGermany thanks for your kind words. This week, I watched 7 matches in the High School Turkish Championship. Faruk Biberovic played impressively. His offense isn't very diverse, but he has a reliable shot. Yağız Aksu was effective in both points and assists. He scored 19 points in the final game and provided 13 assists according to unofficial statistics. He will not be in Beşiktaş next season. Melih Tunca's team was bad, but he played well in the last moments of the match. Actually, I think that Efe Demirel has been out of shape lately, he has a lot of foul problems. Eren Erdoğan played great clutch moments in the tournament. Our U18 team does not seem to have NBA potential, but they have the potential to play in European leagues.

 

[slice me nice2]

I have watched a few training sessions of the U-19 NT, the team is not yet complete as they are training together with the U-20 NT. As I mentioned before, the most effective player in the camp so far is Mestoglu. I think he will impress many people in a positive way. However, it remains a question mark how his impact on the team will be once other players join and roles are more defined. But currently, he stands out with his physical qualities, especially with his strength. His natural strength is really top-notch, a bruiser. He has had a great season in Spain, which is very clear.

The team will fly to Slovenia and play two games against them on June 10-11. Then, in Istanbul, there are two games against the Austria U-20 team on June 16-17.

 

[Camoka2]

Do you know anything about Buyuktuncel. He was injured in the Fener series. Will he play in tournament. Also, did you have chance to watch Saran? If yes, how do you find him?

 

[slice me nice2]

Do you know anything about Buyuktuncel. He was injured in the Fener series. Will he play in tournament. Also, did you have chance to watch Saran? If yes, how do you find him?

Buyuktuncel will be in the upcoming tournament and he is also part of the team that will fly to Slovenia tomorrow. He has a minor injury, and I'm not sure if he will get playing time in the games against Slovenia. I haven't been able to watch Saran enough to form a judgment because he didn't play in the warm-up games; I think he trained in the gym instead. I wouldn't expect too much from Saran to be honest. I don't think he is good enough to be considered as an elite prospect unlike how people see him and praise him excessively. I hope he proves me wrong though.

 

[Toruko2]

Buyuktuncel will be in the upcoming tournament and he is also part of the team that will fly to Slovenia tomorrow. He has a minor injury, and I'm not sure if he will get playing time in the games against Slovenia. I haven't been able to watch Saran enough to form a judgment because he didn't play in the warm-up games; I think he trained in the gym instead. I wouldn't expect too much from Saran to be honest. I don't think he is good enough to be considered as an elite prospect unlike how people see him and praise him excessively. I hope he proves me wrong though.

Its really hard to evaluate his skills based on the level he was playing last season but he can definitely help the team in terms of stretching the floor a bit more. There are no guards who can make outside shots more reliably. He might be not the outstanding talent but his progress in time is promising

 

[peker2]

Buyuktuncel will be in the upcoming tournament and he is also part of the team that will fly to Slovenia tomorrow. He has a minor injury, and I'm not sure if he will get playing time in the games against Slovenia. I haven't been able to watch Saran enough to form a judgment because he didn't play in the warm-up games; I think he trained in the gym instead. I wouldn't expect too much from Saran to be honest. I don't think he is good enough to be considered as an elite prospect unlike how people see him and praise him excessively. I hope he proves me wrong though.

The number of people in the U19 squad on TBF's website has decreased to 19. 3 names were born in 2003. If we remove those names, the 16 people in the roster are:

Ege Tan Yıldızoglu - Emre Melih Tunca - Emir Arda Sivas

Berk Can Akın - Eray Buyukcangaz - Ozgur Cengiz

Bugra Cal - Karahan Tuan Efeoglu - Yigit Hamza Mestoglu

Berke Buyuktuncel - Berke Ismailcebi - Efe Vatan - Kerem Kuthan Konan

Mehmet Efe Demirel - Samet Yiğitoglu - Yusuf Gunduz

What do you think about this roster?

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[slice me nice2]

Yes, as you mentioned, looks like Saran has been left out of the squad. As I said, this decision doesn't come as a surprise to me because the kid has been hyped up excessively throughout the season. I don't think he possesses the necessary skills to meet such high expectations. However, there must be an unusual reason for him to be excluded from the squad because he is still a player capable of making it to the final 12, even if he may not be able to carry the team on his shoulders. This doesn't seem like a coaching choice to me. I believe there must be a specific reason behind it.

There is a serious inflation in PG rotation in the team, and the SG position is quite weak. Some PGs will need to play in a combo role, and the best candidate for that seems to be Buyukcangaz. The remaining positions are in ideal condition.

Cengiz - Sivas - Tunca
Buyukcangaz - Yildizoglu
Efeoglu - Konan
Buyuktuncel - Mestoglu
Yigitoglu - Demirel - Gunduz

A highly flexible squad with the potential for transitions between positions. In this regard, it will be enjoyable to watch. I expect a medal from this team clearly. However, the performance of key players is crucial. The team should progress under the leadership of Buyuktuncel.

 

[Toruko2]

Its really sad cause I really wanted to see what the kid is capable of against better competition. I cant imagine that he is worse than Yildizoglu. Another dead end in terms of developing a play maker.

 

[Straight forward2]

Wow, didn't see that coming. Most likely physicality is the reason. Seemed to me he had very nice skillset and good court vision. At least when he has a lot of freedom. Maybe his team culture things also questionable. Anyway, Saran looked like a prospect to me.

 

[Levenspiel2]

Wow, didn't see that coming. Most likely physicality is the reason. Seemed to me he had very nice skillset and good court vision. At least when he has a lot of freedom. Maybe his team culture things also questionable. Anyway, Saran looked like a prospect to me.

or the dirty politics in Turkish basketball, especially at the youth level.

if he's good, he doesn't need the youth team.

 

[slice me nice2]

I have watched a few training sessions of the U-19 NT, the team is not yet complete as they are training together with the U-20 NT. As I mentioned before, the most effective player in the camp so far is Mestoglu. I think he will impress many people in a positive way. However, it remains a question mark how his impact on the team will be once other players join and roles are more defined. But currently, he stands out with his physical qualities, especially with his strength. His natural strength is really top-notch, a bruiser. He has had a great season in Spain, which is very clear.

The team will fly to Slovenia and play two games against them on June 10-11. Then, in Istanbul, there are two games against the Austria U-20 team on June 16-17.

I had a short conversation with a member of the Slovenian staff. He watched the preparation game that we won 73-72, and according to him, Sivas and Buyuktuncel are standout players from our team, while Klavzar is a standout player from the Slovenian team. Despite the lack of detailed statistics, he said that the duo of Sivas and Buyuktuncel contributed with 40 points in total. He also commented that Buyuktuncel has an aura on the court that sets him apart from all other players. Leadership mentality. This upcoming tournament is very significant for his career.

 

[gockun2]

Son of İbrahim Kutluay dropped 50 on Kosovo apparently, from limited videos I saw, he seem to have much better first step than his father. promising...

 

[Toruko2]

Son of İbrahim Kutluay dropped 50 on Kosovo apparently, from limited videos I saw, he seem to have much better first step than his father. promising...

It was against Kosovo but still impressive.

 

[peker2]

Body measurements of Ege Demir (04') were made at Adidas Eurocamp.

EGE DEMİR
Reach: 111
Height (ft): 6
Height (in): 10
Wingspan: 87
Weight (lbs): 272
Standing vertical: 141
Approach vertical: 144.5
SV Disp: 30
App Disp: 33.5
Height (in): 82

 

[Paecemaker612]

Why does Ege Demir not play for the Turkish youth national team?​