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Turkish NT 2023

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What's the status on Larkin or Wilbekin for the World Cup, will they be available?
With one of them and Cedi and the resurgance of Sengun and Yurtseven I think this team could go really far.

Sengun look sso much more agile and quicker than last year. I think we can definitely roll out a twin tower lineup with him and Yurtseven

We couldnt qualify for the WC
 
Isn't there a second game against Poland tonight too?

On which channel we can watch it?
 
Sengun was outstanding. He was like a superstar. But it is really hard to find out which one is the best fit with him. There are pletty of good reasons for Sanli, Yurtseven, Kabaca, Osmani and even Saybir. For me, it is not clear and I trust Ataman.

Despite the rumors, Sengun looks shorter than last year to me. He maybe even shorter than Kabaca and Buyuktuncel. But he is a game changer and unmatchable. Poland is a good defensive team and he played really nice against them. I do not think there is a scary match up for him. Probably Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium, Ukraine and Bulgaria are too soft. Probably Alex Len will not be with Ukraine. I have not watched a lot Hlinason from Iceland but Iceland probably does not have tools as team. Only Crotia has a lot of sized front court guys. He played great against Zubac in NBA but it would be different in FIBA court.

He seems better as a shooter and it is good time to us and his new head coach. In a scenario which Alperen did not come, I think qualifying would be a hard task to complete.​
 
Isn't there a second game against Poland tonight too?

On which channel we can watch it?

The second game was played in the afternoon without media coverage and fans. We won 98-73, and I had the chance to watch the game. All players received significant playing time, and both teams gave opportunities to players who don't often get much room in rotation. Sengun played for about 7-8 minutes, scored 6 points, and I think he grabbed around 6 rebounds before exiting the game. Additionally, Ugurlu's injury seems to have healed as he also got considerable playing time. Although I didn't keep track precisely, Kabaca roughly produced 15 points in a short amount of time. Erkan Yilmaz contributed in a versatile manner, and Yurtseven scored 13 points. The team looks really impressive. There are at least 6 players who can each contribute +20 points in a single game. The ability for different players to share the scoring load is extremely positive fact.
 
The second game was played in the afternoon without media coverage and fans. We won 98-73, and I had the chance to watch the game. All players received significant playing time, and both teams gave opportunities to players who don't often get much room in rotation. Sengun played for about 7-8 minutes, scored 6 points, and I think he grabbed around 6 rebounds before exiting the game. Additionally, Ugurlu's injury seems to have healed as he also got considerable playing time. Although I didn't keep track precisely, Kabaca roughly produced 15 points in a short amount of time. Erkan Yilmaz contributed in a versatile manner, and Yurtseven scored 13 points. The team looks really impressive. There are at least 6 players who can each contribute +20 points in a single game. The ability for different players to share the scoring load is extremely positive fact.

From up close did sengun look like 211cm compared to the other players??
 
From up close did sengun look like 211cm compared to the other players??

I didn't pay much attention to that. He is still a bit shorter than Sanli, but I don't think there's a significant difference between them like last year. So, he seems to has grown a bit, yes.
 
I feel like we are a really balanced team with Kenan playing the pg. Wilbekin and larkin are amazing players but Kenan does a great job and complements this team with his amazing defense and playmaking. We shouldn't forget that we nearly won against France with hazer and tuncer as our point guards, larkin and willbekin don't deserve a spot on this roster and neither should they get one for next year
 
Assuming we have Cedi as well, I don’t want a player like Larkin on the roster.

I think at this point this is Alperens team. We need players that supports him which means good defense and 3 pointers. Instead of a high usage player I wouldnt mind finding a player with that attitude. I am also not sure even if we need one.

Bitim really grow and with Osman Hazer and Bitim we have a lot of ball handlers and play makers and Sipahi, Ugurlu or Ozdemiroglu as our classical point guards.

Right now our biggest problem seems to be PF but twin towers works and we have Bona and Buyuktuncel coming up.
 
Turkish bb needs a better Furkan Korkmaz, maybe even in this tournament against Croatia. His form in 2024 and 25 will be very important for us. If it counts then you need quality.

Okben is with Alperen the turkish player with the highest IQ in turkish bb. And he has immense IQ in offense too, not only in defense. You can use him as 11-12th man and he can give you in some games much more as the normal 11th or 12th man. A real talented player like this makes difference in the turkish NT because most of our players dont really know how to ball. He has the quality to surprise in the important minutes of an important game because he has real talent and exactly this is rare in turkish bb.

First time in our history we have a leader. His name is of course not Ahmet or Mehmet, his name is Alperen. If we should start winning in ko games in the next years, the reason will be Alperen.​
 
Turkish bb needs a better Furkan Korkmaz, maybe even in this tournament against Croatia. His form in 2024 and 25 will be very important for us. If it counts then you need quality.

Okben is with Alperen the turkish player with the highest IQ in turkish bb. And he has immense IQ in offense too, not only in defense. You can use him as 11-12th man and he can give you in some games much more as the normal 11th or 12th man. A real talented player like this makes difference in the turkish NT because most of our players dont really know how to ball. He has the quality to surprise in the important minutes of an important game because he has real talent and exactly this is rare in turkish bb.

First time in our history we have a leader. His name is of course not Ahmet or Mehmet, his name is Alperen. If we should start winning in ko games in the next years, the reason will be Alperen.​

Yes we have problem with basketball iq in the team and with shoot selection most of the time. Furkan can't make even open shoot
 
Right now our biggest problem seems to be PF but twin towers works and we have Bona and Buyuktuncel coming up.

Osmani and Kabaca are both more then decent players for that position. We are weak on SG spot
 
We need just Tunca and Ustun. No more naturalized player. We have a real star now for at least 10 years. Just build around him.
 
Playing with guys like Kenan, onuralp, okben instead of tuncer-melih makes a big difference huh? Even playing with a good okben instead of cedi makes a big difference as he is such a high IQ player
 
The quality of the opponents in the first two games was too low that making any meaningful conclusions based on these games is not on solid ground. As I mentioned before, this tournament was an unmissable opportunity for players like Bona and Buyuktuncel, whom we expected to have significant roles in the national team, to integrate into the team. However, both of them missed this opportunity due to injuries. The only serious game we will play will be against Croatia and I don't think we'll have any problems in that game either.

If we ignore the fact that Sengun and Yurtseven heavily outweigh at this level, the most noteworthy individual development, including the preparation games, is Bitim's ability to create significant productivity and efficiency in the offense with a minor role and less ball usage compared to his club team. It's extremely important for him to show that he can contribute in minimal roles to increase his chances of holding onto a spot in the NBA. The most unexpected development for me so far is Kabaca being placed at the end of the rotation by Ataman. Although Osmani has justified the minutes he's received in terms of performance, I was expecting Kabaca to be placed ahead of Osmani in the rotation.
 
The quality of the opponents in the first two games was too low that making any meaningful conclusions based on these games is not on solid ground. As I mentioned before, this tournament was an unmissable opportunity for players like Bona and Buyuktuncel, whom we expected to have significant roles in the national team, to integrate into the team. However, both of them missed this opportunity due to injuries. The only serious game we will play will be against Croatia and I don't think we'll have any problems in that game either.

If we ignore the fact that Sengun and Yurtseven heavily outweigh at this level, the most noteworthy individual development, including the preparation games, is Bitim's ability to create significant productivity and efficiency in the offense with a minor role and less ball usage compared to his club team. It's extremely important for him to show that he can contribute in minimal roles to increase his chances of holding onto a spot in the NBA. The most unexpected development for me so far is Kabaca being placed at the end of the rotation by Ataman. Although Osmani has justified the minutes he's received in terms of performance, I was expecting Kabaca to be placed ahead of Osmani in the rotation.

I am fan of both players, but in this moment Osmani is more formed package tbh. 2nd reason is that Ataman often plays with two centers, so their minutes are even more reduced
 
lol this is bullshit

I don't think he is wrong tbh. Atm we dont really have a 4 who we could fully trust and play serious minutes, ofc for the future buyuktuncel is going to be there but atm we only have osmani. Sengun-yurtseven isn't ideal they would struggle a lot against better opponents. We have to play them together because as of right now tere isnt really a 4 who we can trust blindly. I really hope buyuktuncel bas a monster Year and goes around the 20-30 range. We really need him
 
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