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the wild card for an asian team

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So I've got a big issue with Oceania, who are getting two slots, and they are only sending two teams (Kiwis and Tall Blacks). Because of this they've set up two games, a home and away matchup between these two teams. The result not really that significant as both teams will make the trip to Turkey, so it's just about bragging rights.

What is the point of giving a section two bids when most of the time it can't field much more than the same two teams? Island countries like French Polynesia, Samoa, Guam are poor and don't have the funds to field a team. This is why combining Asia and Oceania into like the Asiania zone or whatever would be ideal because provided each section carries their number of spots into the World Championships, then the chance for a team in Western Asia like Lebanon increases, and we won't always just see either Australia or New Zealand every single time from that region.

The Kiwis or Tall Blacks of course will probably howl in outrage at this suggestion because it means one of their nations might be snuffed out by a country from the Asian continent. But the Oceanian section has simply gotten to the point of absurdity. If not merge then at least take away one of their bids and give it to Asia because as shown by this recent competition several teams were within a couple points of moving on, while the Oceanian section will always have the same two teams. Australia and New Zealand have been the only teams to be competition in their region since the 1999 Olympics when the Aussies didn't compete cause they hosted the Olympics and Guam managed to pull in a silver. It isn't fair to the rest of the world while they are guaranteed a spot in because they are the only teams competing while other countries who are worthier get snuffed out due to insufficient bids.
 
jxuusa said:
In one of the other treads (Jordan vs Lebanon probably) a guy posted the guidelines for wildcard, and it says no more than 3 teams from one FIBA zone, and Asia's already fulfilled those slots so no wildcard
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Is that what you understood?
They mean no more than 3 wild cards can be given to a Fiba zone(Europe or Asia or America, or Africa, or Oceania)
 
Guys, what if (and this is a big IF) Israel qualifies out of Eurobasket or even through the wildcard? Do you think the Iranian federation will boycott the World Championship?

I don't want that to happen really (I hate politics interfering with sports) but it's a possibility with consequences on Lebanon since they finished fourth in FIBA Asia.

This similar scenario happened to the Philippines in 1986 when we were Asian champs and had an automatic slot in Mundobasket '86 but we did not participate because of the people's revolution in our country then. This gave the 4th placer (Malaysia) a free ride to Spain.
 
until The FIBA AMERICAS CHAMPIONSHIP is over, we can't be sure of anything.

The only Team that I think has a secure spot for the upcoming FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP is Brazil, everyone else....well we'll see in 9 days.

Rememer that Puerto Rico didn't qualify last time.

so let's wait and see what happen
 
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Butata said:
Guys, what if (and this is a big IF) Israel qualifies out of Eurobasket or even through the wildcard? Do you think the Iranian federation will boycott the World Championship?
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What does Israel making it through have to do with Iran?
 
Lewis said:
until The FIBA AMERICAS CHAMPIONSHIP is over, we can't be sure of anything.

The only Team that I think has a secure for upcoming FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP is Brazil, everyone else....well we'll se in 9 days.

Rememer that Puerto Rico didn't qualify last time.

so let's wait and see what happen
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only Brazil? don't think Argentina should secure there qualification? I heard they will be missing some of their good players, anywa news about that?
 
Lewis said:
until The FIBA AMERICAS CHAMPIONSHIP is over, we can't be sure of anything.

The only Team that I think has a secure for upcoming FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP is Brazil, everyone else....well we'll se in 9 days.

Rememer that Puerto Rico didn't qualify last time.

so let's wait and see what happen
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Brazil? Argentina have finished in the top four of every world tournament since 2002. The only team in world outside the US that would get a guaranteed bid over them is probably Spain.
 
Speaking of wild card Lebanon should be on FIBA world they've been consistent on this decade and always been the bridesmaid in every FIBA Asia and Olympics qualifying they deserve it
 
kerdito said:
only Brazil? don't think Argentina should secure there qualification? I heard they will be missing some of their good players, anywa news about that?
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the problem is not that they're missing player. I think the real problem is that the other teams aren't (mostly). with it sC team Argentina would have a hard time playing against countries like, Brazil, The Dominican Repulic and Puerto Rico. Even Watson (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/earl_watson/) is playing for Mexico, so even they may bbe able to math up with that Argentinian team. The Dominicans are stacked, Uruguay is always hard to beat, and Panama is gonna play with a team almost complete. Canada just added Carl English and the NBA Joel Anthony to its final roster.

you that's the thing about The Americas, you can't never tell, it's not as obvious as in Asia where China and Iran are always on top.
 
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Dtown said:
Brazil? Argentina have finished in the top four of every world tournament since 2002. The only team in world outside the US that would get a guaranteed bid over them is probably Spain.
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Argentina(if they had a full squad) and Spain would secure their spots
 
Lewis said:
the problem is not that they're missing player. I think the real problem is that the other teams aren't (mostly). with it C team Argentina would have a hard time playing against countries like, Brazil, The Dominican Repulic and Puerto Rico. Even Watson (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/earl_watson/) is playing for Mexico, so even they can math up with that Argentinian team. The Dominicans are stacked, Uruguay is always hard to beat, and Panama is gonna play with a team almost complete. Canada just added Carl English and the NBA Joel Anthony to its final roster.

you that's the thing about The Americas, you can't never tell, it's not as obvious as in Asia where China and Iran are always on top.
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Iran is new to the Asia Basketball top, as for the Americas well Argentina are participating with team C????
Is Dominicans getting their NBA players?
 
rycorpz said:
Speaking of wild card Lebanon should be on FIBA world they've been consistent on this decade and always been the bridesmaid in every FIBA Asia and Olympics qualifying they deserve it
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10x you should send an email to Fiba to support us ;) we are all doing it
 
kerdito said:
Man what am asking for is: are they going to particiapte with team C?and why
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yes, they're sending their C team.

Why, I don't know I'm not Argentinian LOL

I do know Ginobilli (however you spell that) was injuried most of the season, so maybe he wants to rest a bit. I really don't know why Nocioni isn't gonna play, Delfino I think was injuried, Waltern Herman retired from the national team.Oberto rarely played last season because of injuries and other health issues. Other good players from Argentina playing overseas aren't playing in the tourney either.

LUIS SCOLA IS PLAYING THOUGH

and I think Prigioni too
 
Lewis said:
until The FIBA AMERICAS CHAMPIONSHIP is over, we can't be sure of anything.

The only Team that I think has a secure spot for the upcoming FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP is Brazil, everyone else....well we'll see in 9 days.

Rememer that Puerto Rico didn't qualify last time.

so let's wait and see what happen
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hey man....suppose puerto rico didnt qualify also....is it logic to give them a wild card for the second time in a row????????
suppose instead that dominican republic didnt qualify then definitely they wont get a card since they are new...i dont think they reached world cup before...
concerning argentina they will definitely be given wild card if they failed to qualify so i hope they qualify before that :)
 
Lewis said:
yes, they're sending their C team.

Why, I don't know I'm not Argentinian LOL

I do know Ginobilli (however you spell that) was injuried most of the season, so maybe he wants to rest a bit. I really don't know why Nocioni isn't gonna play, Delfino I think was injuried, Waltern Herman retired from the national team.Oberto rarely played last season because of injuries and other health issues. Other good players from Argentina playing overseas aren't playing in the torney either.

LUIS SCOLA IS PLAYING THOUGH

and I think Prigioni too
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Ah ok I think Oberto still has a small injury, anyway with their team C as your saying this might be almost impossible for them to qualify so 1 wild card is gone :( hopefully no othe big upsets would be present in Fiba Americas so no other wild cards would go to that Zone!!!! :(
 
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