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The Final: Spain - France

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The Final: Spain - France

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Ridirkulous said:
Funny enough also your opinion on the other side disturbs me. They seem pretty greek to me when singing loudly the national anthem.
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There's something in between right? I'm just curious what's with their feelings towards Nigeria if they ever went explicit on it.
 
Straight forward said:
There's something in between right? I'm just curious what's with their feelings towards Nigeria if they ever went explicit on it.
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For fuck's sake. Can't they be both? I feel connected to all parts of my diverse heritage too, and so do a bunch of US Americans with Chinese, Italian, Irish, etc. parents... You should welcome more immigrants maybe in Lithuania, they sometimes teach people one thing or two, even how to play basketball every once in a while ;)
 
Despite my complaints and whining about the naturalised players here, I don't think we can single out Spain, who did as almost everyone else, just because theirs happened to be the MVP and a perfect fit. They did that part right, too.
 
Straight forward said:
Oh, never mind...

“I grew up in a Nigerian home,” Antetokounmpo said. “Obviously, I was born in Greece and went to school in Greece. But at the end of the day when I go home, there is no Greek culture. It’s straight-up Nigerian culture. It’s about discipline, it’s about respecting your elders, having morals.”

https://andscape.com/features/bucks...freak-wants-to-go-back-to-his-nigerian-roots/
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Again, so what. I also had one culture at home and another one at school, in the media, at the basketball training. It is clear to me again that your notion of national identity is a bit stale...
 
Straight forward said:
Oh, never mind...

“I grew up in a Nigerian home,” Antetokounmpo said. “Obviously, I was born in Greece and went to school in Greece. But at the end of the day when I go home, there is no Greek culture. It’s straight-up Nigerian culture. It’s about discipline, it’s about respecting your elders, having morals.”

You can also check his latest in

https://andscape.com/features/bucks...freak-wants-to-go-back-to-his-nigerian-roots/
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You can also check his latest instagram post.
 
Ridirkulous said:
For fuck's sake. Can't they be both? I feel connected to all parts of my diverse heritage too, and so do a bunch of US Americans with Chinese, Italian, Irish, etc. parents... You should welcome more immigrants maybe in Lithuania, they sometimes teach people one thing or two, even how to play basketball every once in a while ;)
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Lithuanians are so afraid of having a russian minority that they have made double citizenship impossible.
 
MikeMaccabiFan said:
Poor? Double double with 14 points and 11 assists is poor showing?
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When you take 13 shots and make only 4 the day your teammates are putting on a shooting clinic, yes, you're having a poor showing as a lead guard. He also messed up several plays that led to rushed shots and turnovers (magically, I see not a single one under his name) when France started pressuring him.

And worst of all, the guy is really terrible on defence. He forgot to switch several times, leading to easy dunks for France. Please, don't get me wrong, the guy is great with the ball on his hands, very safe, usually takes good decisions, can drive to the basket... but without the other guards taking in the toughest defensive assignments and knocking down the three-pointers we'd have lost today.
 
Ridirkulous said:
Again, so what. I also had one culture at home and another one at school, in the media, at the basketball training. It is clear to me again that your notion of national identity is a bit stale...
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My point is that when we talk about nationality, your roots, your true inner identity matters. You can't just switch location and pretend that nothing happened, or that you different person inside now. Ante Bros surely more authentic Nigerians than Greeks. Just as Brazdeikis is more authentic Lith, than Canadian, cause his pops both pure Lithuanians and he was watching LTU NT performances together with his father at home.
 
paspalj said:
Lithuanians are so afraid of having a russian minority that they have made double citizenship impossible.
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My post was more of a jab at the fact that Frank Lubin, born in California and serving the US army in WW2, basically is the reason they have basketball at all in Lithuania. But I guess he will bring up bloodlines for that too.
 
Straight forward said:
My point is that when we talk about nationality, your roots, your true inner identity matters. You can't just switch location and pretend that nothing happened, or that you different person inside now. Ante Bros surely more authentic Nigerians than Greeks. Just as Brazdeikis is more authentic Lith, than Canadian, cause his pops both pure Lithuanians and he was watching LTU NT performances together with his father at home.
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There are perfect example the inner identity does not need to be devoted to one country. One is at the keyboard right now.
 
Ridirkulous said:
There are perfect example the inner identity does not need to be devoted to one country. One is at the keyboard right now.
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It's theoretically possible, but very rare occasion in reality. Can't you prioritize one nationality, like the most authentic and close to you?
 
Straight forward said:
My point is that when we talk about nationality, your roots, your true inner identity matters. You can't just switch location and pretend that nothing happened, or that you different person inside now. Ante Bros surely more authentic Nigerians than Greeks. Just as Brazdeikis is more authentic Lith, than Canadian, cause his pops both pure Lithuanians and he was watching LTU NT performances together with his father at home.
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But they didn't switch place. What are you on about? I have been abroad more than the Antetkoumpos. Does that make me greek? :p

Edit: You conveniently left out the next paragraph:
“I can understand it a little bit. I can count. It’s not like I’m fluent,” Antetokounmpo said of Igbo. “It’s not like I can go back home to Nigeria and they can understand what I am saying. It’s kind of funny.

That doesn't fit your archaic notions though right?
 
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paspalj said:
But they didn't switch place. What are you on about? I have been abroad more than the Antetkoumpos. Does that make me greek? :p
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Both of their parents did. But he knows that he still grew up in Nigerian home, Nigerian family. That is a fact which he said by himself. I have no problem that Bros playing for Greece. But they are authentic Nigerians with certain relation with Greece. While Brazdeikis is authentic Lithuanian with certain relation with Canada. While I'm OK with both these cause, it doesn't mean we can't go to particulars and deeper take on these matters.
 
Straight forward said:
It's theoretically possible, but very rare occasion in reality. Can't you prioritize one nationality, like the most authentic and close to you?
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No I can't. You talk about food, I am something, you talk about sport, I am something else, etc...
 
Darrell Armstrong said:
Woa. He just outscored and outrebounded, by himself, the French trio of Gobert, Poirier and Fall. What a wimp!
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Woa. The trident of offensive basketball you mention there. You are reaching hard on this one. Very nitpicky on a 14+11ast double double with zero turnovers (magic or not...) with a better plus minus. And at the same time very nonchalant on the (my opinion) weakest MVP of the last 30 years of Eurobasket having a meh performance in the final.
 
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