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South Korea National Team 2013-2014

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But Ha has zero or below average post up skills compare to the Seo Jang Hoon's and Eric Sandrin's. They aren't your ordinary post players as they can play back to the basket as quick as a big guy who has face up skills. Thats why our Filipino big men cannot match up with Seo. And guys like Kim Min Soo did not blend well with the Korean scheme of offense because the ball takes a lot of time in him.

Not true on Ha Seung-Jin having zero post moves, more like average post moves and that is good enough in the KBL but not international competitions. I remember a young Ha Seung-Jin who was touted as the next big thing after Seo Jang-Hoon (the latter was a good post player) as an 18 year old Ha was the third best post player in the country.

Prior to the 2004 NBA draft, NBA scouts compared him to a young Jamal Maglorie in terms of potential and the late Marty Blake called it right: Ha Seung-Jin's post game resembled that of raw American prospects in the orientation of a power type post player, unlike Yao Ming who was pure finesse. Ha's similar American post game got him drafted. I remember those workouts with the Portland scouts that had Ha SJ showcase some post game repertoire involving:

1. Back down - Pivot - Finish
2. Back down - Drop step - Hook
3. Back down - Pivot - Glass

Ha used to dunk effortlessly until he got heavier and slower. With that came trouble on his knees and hamstring. In 2009, Ha lost his mobility and somewhat athletic grasp.

As for Lee Seung-Jun, he was never really a post player. His days globetrotting various leagues had him play PF and SF. When he came to Samsung, he never really played the post game and was more of a screen and roll bigman, relying on athleticism to finish as he moved. He also made a living on the mid-range game. It is Lee Dong-Jun who was a good post player and not Lee Seung-Jun.

As for Kim Min-Soo, he was not much of a post player, but played a pressure release bigman in the mold of a tweening cross between a PF and a SF. Yoo Jae-Hak apparently liked him in the 2009 FIBA Asia due to his presence on stretching the floor.

They forced to do that given the size disadvantage they had against Russians and how green the Chinese Big men to react to the rolls made by no. 14 and no. 15.

Not true. Lee Sang-Beom used D'Antoni's 7 seconds or less offense heading into the Olympic wildcards. During the build-up, Lee's national team run and gunned against KBL teams, College teams, Venezuela, Russia and the Dominican Republic. Lee Sang-Beom hoped that speed will make the team atleast competitive so he tapped bigmen like Lee Seung-Jun, Kim Jong-Kyu, Kim Dong-Uk and Lee Jong-Hyun who were mobile and prefer the rolling game. Lee Seung-Jun thrived in that role and couldn't be more happier.

As for the 2013 East Asian championship squad, Choi Bo-Young stressed discipline in the form of the high flex point that involves a double post game in the baseline. Screen - Duck - Roll was the main role of Lee Jong-Hyun and Kim Jong-Kyu. Even against smaller teams like Chinese Taipei and Macau, the team ran the flex all the way to the championship round against China.

So no truth on your claim that Korea was "forced" to utilize the screen and roll over the ad-hoc post isolation. There is a difference between forced and preaching continuity in a motion offense.
 
Thanks for the good read... but I believe that whenever Korea would match up against a middle eastern team or Philippines who uses grit and strength in defending the paint will have a difficult time in executing their motion offense compare when they up against east asian teams..
 
Thanks for the good read... but I believe that whenever Korea would match up against a middle eastern team or Philippines who uses grit and strength in defending the paint will have a difficult time in executing their motion offense compare when they up against east asian teams..

I don't see the connection of being physical in the paint equates to Korea struggling with a baseline flex. Action unfolds at the high top mind you in a screen and roll situation where the defending bigman happens to come up high and is forced to pedal back as he trails a diving forward in the offense.

Physicality in the paint negates post up scenarios for bigmen. Physicaliy in the paint does not spare you from wide open shooters off curls and flash cuts. Which is why Korea is moving away from just dumping the ball down low to a bigman as they do struggle against heftier post defenders.

Physicality in the paint does not equate to hampering a motion offense that is very much dependent in cuts, screen and duck. Now physicality in the cover and quick switches / traps does help negate a motion offense.
 
A lot of emphasis in core training, flexible response and cardio (training like jogging in the morning for 2K, sprint and suicide drills) is what Yoo Jae-Hak is implementing for conditioning. He wants everyone to be much more fit and more stamina for August.
 
Atleast for South Korea, they can rely on Yang Dong-Geun to play a motivated game against China. He always seem to lead the motor for the team.

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Plus Lee Jong-Hyun (If he makes it) could meet Wang Zhelin again.
 
Head coach Yoo Jae-Hak added new press statements in regards with the draw and Korea's grouping. Yoo singled out that Iran and China are the two teams to beat in the tournament and stated that it will be advantageous for the team to get to know the two teams beforehand and Yoo added that if Korea aims to finish atleast as high as first, Iran and China will stand in the way.

Yoo stated that the team will get a first look of the other competition in the Jones Cup next month.
 
The team is wary of Kim Joo-Sung's health and in this case, the latter's knees. Kim is taking it light with leg strengthening and other body-conditioning exercises. Kim also shot some hoops and seems not to be bothered by landing.
 
With the way Moon Tae-Young and Lee Seung-Jun are working in the daily training, it will be difficult to choose between the two of them. Yet they seem to be very close, even helping one another in spot up weight-lifting.
 
With the way Moon Tae-Young and Lee Seung-Jun are working in the daily training, it will be difficult to choose between the two of them. Yet they seem to be very close, even helping one another in spot up weight-lifting.
Both of them will attend jones cup?
 
I'm not sure as Yoo Jae Hak still has not given a date to cut people. But I think Yoo will cut the roster before the Jones cup.
 
Today Yoo Jae-Hak requested footages of the recent games of Iran, Jordan, Qatar and Lebanon. Yoo admitted two weeks ago that he is not aware of the strength of the said teams.

Plus Yoo said that the team's motto should be: "40 minutes of full court press".
 
I really hope Ki Seung-Ho (Changwon LG Sakers) makes it to the national team. Benefit would be that they will get another pure shooter aside from Cho Sung-Min who thrives in the catch and shoot sets. I know that Ki shot below his average 3Pt% when he returned to the Sakers in the middle of February, but that could be attributed to him trying to regain his shooting touch and with him trying to adjust to the new situation based on the Sakers plays and player tendencies.

Still, based on roles, Cho Sung-Min has that pure shooter designation. Yoo would like a more versatile and dynamic winger.
 
What about Korea's former top U18 player Kim Jin-Soo? (I'm not sure about the spelling of his name but he was one of the key players in the Korean U18 squad in 2008 standing at 6'9)

Who are Korea's best wingmen at the moment? Sorry but I haven't watched them play for a while so I don't know how much their game has changed since 2007.
 
Kim Jin-Soo is now known as Choi Jin-Soo. He wasn't named into the player pool. Incidentally, it was Yoo Jae-Hak who cut him in two occassions. First is back in 2009 and in 2010. Back then Yoo said that Choi was not ready. In the 2012 London wildcard qualifiers, Choi was included in the team, but I guess Yoo is not impressed with his development. As per the wingmen of Korea, many would believe that Moon Tae Young and Yoon Ho-Young are currently the best. The likes of Yang Hee-Jong and Kim Yong-Hwan are not in the current 16 man list. All are aging by the way.
 
excluded players...

Choi Jin-Soo (injury)
Oh Se-Keun (injury)
Yang Hee-Jong (injury)
Ha Seung-Jin (military service)
 
What about Korea's former top U18 player Kim Jin-Soo? (I'm not sure about the spelling of his name but he was one of the key players in the Korean U18 squad in 2008 standing at 6'9)

Who are Korea's best wingmen at the moment? Sorry but I haven't watched them play for a while so I don't know how much their game has changed since 2007.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_Soo_Choi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Yoo-Taek


Choi jin soo = Kim jin soo

Choi jin soo changed last name due to family matter.

Choi Jin-Soo is Kim Yoo-Taek's biological son (former basketball player & coach, currently Chung-Ang University coach).


He came to the United States as a high school freshman in 2004.

He played University of Maryland in the NCAA 1 Division.


University of Maryland - ACC(Atlantic Coast Conference)

08~09 : 21game, 1.6ppg(FG 28.6%, 3P 23.8%, FT 71.4%), 1.1rpg

09~10 : 9game, 4.9mpg, 0.8ppg(FG 22%, FT 75%), 1.1rpg, 0.2apg

Unable to balance the rigors of a university education and a basketball career, Choi Jin-soo, Korea's first NCAA basketball player has decided to leave the University of Maryland and return to Korea.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/sports/2010/01/136_58499.html

He played 2009 William Jones Cup vs lebanon

[video]http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/flash/convertIframeTag.nhn?vid=8817A1C82B91816E1A29FC00F 15DF45674A3&outKey=V128117e63d06023e6c6e343b1734c0a7d68a602297 b91c2557d0343b1734c0a7d68a&width=500&height=408[/video]


Jackson Vroman(USA-Lebanon naturalized, ex-NBA Player) - in your face

,but not 2009 FIBA Asia Championship roster.

He played 2012 London Olympic Qualifying Tournament - vs Russia, Dominican Republic.

For shoulder operations and rehabilitation, he was excluded from the pre-roster in 2013 FIBA Asia Championship.
 
It seems that the South Korean team for the 2013 East Asian games will be similar in composition to the East Asian Basketball tournament last month. Which means a core of Kim Jong-Kyu and others plus Sang-Moo players. It seems China will send their 2016 Olympic training team.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_Soo_Choi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Yoo-Taek


Choi jin soo = Kim jin soo

Choi jin soo changed last name due to family matter.

Choi Jin-Soo is Kim Yoo-Taek's biological son (former basketball player & coach, currently Chung-Ang University coach).


He came to the United States as a high school freshman in 2004.

He played University of Maryland in the NCAA 1 Division.


University of Maryland - ACC(Atlantic Coast Conference)

08~09 : 21game, 1.6ppg(FG 28.6%, 3P 23.8%, FT 71.4%), 1.1rpg

09~10 : 9game, 4.9mpg, 0.8ppg(FG 22%, FT 75%), 1.1rpg, 0.2apg

Unable to balance the rigors of a university education and a basketball career, Choi Jin-soo, Korea's first NCAA basketball player has decided to leave the University of Maryland and return to Korea.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/sports/2010/01/136_58499.html

He played 2009 William Jones Cup vs lebanon

[video]http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/flash/convertIframeTag.nhn?vid=8817A1C82B91816E1A29FC00F 15DF45674A3&outKey=V128117e63d06023e6c6e343b1734c0a7d68a602297 b91c2557d0343b1734c0a7d68a&width=500&height=408[/video]


Jackson Vroman(USA-Lebanon naturalized, ex-NBA Player) - in your face

,but not 2009 FIBA Asia Championship roster.

He played 2012 London Olympic Qualifying Tournament - vs Russia, Dominican Republic.

For shoulder operations and rehabilitation, he was excluded from the pre-roster in 2013 FIBA Asia Championship.

Thanks a lot. I wish him a fast and full recovery. :D
 
Yonhap news reported that Yoo Jae-Hak will bring in 12 players for the Jones Cup next month. Which means a decision will be made soon on who to choose between Lee Seung-Jun and Moon Tae-Young. Coach Yoo said that choosing one over the other has its strategic advantages and disadvantages:

Lee Seung-Jun - combo big man, able to play PF or C.

Moon Tae-Young - Dynamic scorer in the wings and has the range to stretch defenses.
 
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