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Should Olympic basketball be for the U24 category ?

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SashKX said:
I talked with one Pinoy friend of mine earlier about the new format, apparently this qualifying schedule is really bad for their PBA and their basketball federation has already announced they'll be sending amateurs there, as they apparently did some time ago.
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well we can manage to send amateurs on the first 4 phases f the qualifying tournament..And we are just paranoid, we can send a club team to represent us if the competition is tough in the prelims..
 
SashKX said:
I talked with one Pinoy friend of mine earlier about the new format, apparently this qualifying schedule is really bad for their PBA and their basketball federation has already announced they'll be sending amateurs there, as they apparently did some time ago.
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Well I think that more or less we all expected the most important players to miss the qualifiers.And that affects us more,I tend to believe because we'll barely see some Euroleague players (not even mentioning the NBA) there.Of course sending amateurs sucks like hell,I thought that they'd have a respectable pool of players outside of the NT. Seems like they'll make too many steps behind.
 
R1ou said:
Well I think that more or less we all expected the most important players to miss the qualifiers.And that affects us more,I tend to believe because we'll barely see some Euroleague players (not even mentioning the NBA) there.Of course sending amateurs sucks like hell,I thought that they'd have a respectable pool of players outside of the NT. Seems like they'll make too many steps behind.
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We have a very competitive pool.. good for asia pachific teams outside top seven or even 6...As we do have very good club teams more cohesive than our national team
 
reamily said:
We have a very competitive pool.. good for asia pachific teams outside top seven or even 6...As we do have very good club teams more cohesive than our national team
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It depends on how you identify "competitive".If f.e you're aiming just to qualify from Asia region,then yes I can say that you have a respectable amount of talent pool to do so.But if you want to compete against the world's best,then sorry,to my eyes you are not competitive enough.
 
R1ou said:
It depends on how you identify "competitive".If f.e you're aiming just to qualify from Asia region,then yes I can say that you have a respectable amount of talent pool to do so.But if you want to compete against the world's best,then sorry,to my eyes you are not competitive enough.
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I believe that is part of the plan. Qualify using amateur players and bring a mix of pros and amateurs in the world cup. That way, the PBA is only interrupted once every four years.
 
interxavierxxx said:
I believe that is part of the plan. Qualify using amateur players and bring a mix of pros and amateurs in the world cup. That way, the PBA is only interrupted once every four years.
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FIBA will not make any changes for PBL. It is irrelevant to them.

I am sure that FIBA is aiming to make the World Cup the biggest international basketball event in the world. It would be a bad strategy to depend on the IOC in organizing the most prestigious basketball tournament. Perhaps, it can take another two Olympic cycles, but after that FIBA is going to take full control. Let's not forget that the next FIBA world cup would be in 2019. Just one year before the Olympics. It would be silly to have two consecutive World Cups. It is either the World Cup, or the Olympics. There is no middle way.
 
Victorious said:
Some people are of the opinion that basketball in the Olympics should be played by players U24.
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I will try heroin to see if I can have a more idiotic opinion than the one of "some people".
Olympics are biggest event in sports. Olympics have to be played by best athletes.

I read somewhere in the thread that "with under 24 it would be possible to have a tournament that shows young talent etc."
So, when would we be going to see developed talents?
 
Big Lebowski said:
I read somewhere in the thread that "with under 24 it would be possible to have a tournament that shows young talent etc."
So, when would we be going to see developed talents?
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Continental and World Championships, national team qualification tournaments and of course Euroleague, NBA and domestic leagues etc. etc.
 
No.

It has become the most prestigious and iconic international tournament of basketball.
 
Mindozas said:
To players. That's the thing
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Are you sure about that though? With so many young players deciding to skip the Olympics? Personally I think the tide is turning to allow a sea change to happen. But that's just me.
 
CHBB said:
Are you sure about that though? With so many young players deciding to skip the Olympics? Personally I think the tide is turning to allow a sea change to happen. But that's just me.
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considering how many of those players are rookies or have legit reasons to skip (like new babies or injuries) Nah.
 
CHBB said:
Are you sure about that though? With so many young players deciding to skip the Olympics? Personally I think the tide is turning to allow a sea change to happen. But that's just me.
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Sakkreth wrote that Olympics is the most prestigious tournament. You replied that to us, I added that to players too. I'm more than sure about that. That money takes over I wrote in my first long post here. More and more players are skipping pre-WC continental champs and WC itself. But so far I don't see smth like that happening with Olympics, there always were few players who chose money/career over playin' for their NT in Olympics. Actually I don't know many young players who withdrew this year, only Australian Simmons and Brazilian Nogueira comes to my mind. All other guys who aren't there are injured or coach choices
 
Steadysoul said:
considering how many of those players are rookies or have legit reasons to skip (like new babies or injuries) Nah.
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Except most of them weren't. Like Lillard, for starters.

Mindozas said:
Sakkreth wrote that Olympics is the most prestigious tournament. You replied that to us, I added that to players too. I'm more than sure about that. That money takes over I wrote in my first long post here. More and more players are skipping pre-WC continental champs and WC itself. But so far I don't see smth like that happening with Olympics, there always were few players who chose money/career over playin' for their NT in Olympics. Actually I don't know many young players who withdrew this year, only Australian Simmons and Brazilian Nogueira comes to my mind. All other guys who aren't there are injured or coach choices
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What I'm saying is the Olympics since the Dream Team days have been the exception to the rule of most great players not playing for their national teams. I can very easily foresee a future where that is not the case, and I think it is starting.
 
CHBB said:
Except most of them weren't. Like Lillard, for starters.

What I'm saying is the Olympics since the Dream Team days have been the exception to the rule of most great players not playing for their national teams. I can very easily foresee a future where that is not the case, and I think it is starting.
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Lillard said he had an injury and wasn't sure if he would heal in time. But nice try.
 
CHBB said:
Lol okay. Except he didn't. He felt disrespected at getting cut in 2014. Or Kevin Love who hasn't opted to play since 2012.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/3/29/11324816/team-usa-basketball-roster-updates-status
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did you miss this section in the link you just posted?

Damian Lillard: Lillard was upset about not making the World Cup team and initially wasn't part of the player pool for these Olympics, but he was added late when he performed too well to be ignored. He decided not to participate in order to recover from plantar fasciitis.
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CHBB said:
But now the way I see it, Africa has stepped up athletically and skill-wise even if thy haven't been able to field complete solid teams, and it's time for Asia to do the same.
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But how? I don't deny Africa has improved (though not record-wise) but previous African teams (namely Angola) have been real Africans, while in recent tournaments, Nigeria is fielding a team that's more than 50% American, like born and raised in America and probably have never set foot in Nigeria. That to me is the only improvement, and that's thanks to the fact there are like hundreds of 2nd/3rd generation Nigerian-Americans in the NBA/NCAA/pros that they can select talents from. Can you really find many Chinese-Americans (or Chinese-Westerners) in any competitive leagues worldwide? China has a much larger diaspora worldwide than Nigeria and probably the entire Africa, but unfortunately virtually all of them suck whether they are in China, Asia, Europe, America, or Australia. People criticize China for not allowing foreign-born players but even if China does, there will be no change to its basketball team, since Jeremy Lin won't ever play for any NTs and nobody else has any shot at making the Chinese NT.

Philippines has improved quite a lot from 10 years ago, but everyone knows their biggest improvement has been naturalizing an NBA player on their team (the other Asian team like Jordan, Lebanon, Qatar and Chinese Taipei are only able to naturalize NBDL talent). If Japan naturalizes someone like Blatche they might be able to field a similar team in 2020, but that's the extent of the Asian "improvement". Speaking of Japan, they are obviously trying to field a men's basketball team in 2020, they even have a national program for that. One of their players, Rui Hachimura, is being talked about as an NBA prospect, and there are few other young promising players, maybe in 2020 if they hire a big black mercenary center they can beat this year's China or Venezuela or maybe even Nigeria at home.
 
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