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Raze Lupin2
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USA vs Argentina will be a close match. I hope we can pull it out. This game will be a grind.
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Chopin2
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Isnt it 1:1 between USA and Argentina in the last two semifinals in the olympics? I agree that US are going to win this game, but your comment is not justified and a bit cocky. If the USA will become too confident and stop sending all the best players to the international championships they will start loosing again. Cockiness brings dissrespect from others and also bad results of your team and I huess you dont want any of those...
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usagre2
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But they have sent their best players this time , Richard Jefferson, Shawn Marion and stephon. Marbury are not playing so Argentina has no chance. Call it cockiness if you want but it is also reality
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usagre2
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Why will it be close?
Last game was a blow out, even the exhibition game was really over after the first quarter. The rest of the game was mostly garbage time, the dream team was up 15 with about 5 minutes to go when they shut it down. The 2008 semifinal was over in the first half. Even the 2006 bronze game was not that close with a far inferior USA team to this one. So what are we really talking about ? 2004 and 2002 was a million years ago with the two worst USA nba teams ever.
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HeinrichMohr2
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Argentina will need to be very aggressive in defense not letting the americans run, even if that costs them some fouls. They are capable of keeping a close game if the scoreboard is the lowest possible for them, but this Team USA is too good from the perimeter. Some teams are able to put some fight against them during half game but they have a great capacity of reaction: two straight three pointers and a couple of steals and the game is finished. They are simply one or two steps ahead from other teams.
Scola will be very important for Argentina, he's clever, but also one of the most tricky players i know.
Scola will be very important for Argentina, he's clever, but also one of the most tricky players i know.
Khalid802
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If Argentina is going to play their game in a way that seems they want to outscore the US like in the previous meeting then they are going to get screwed big time... I don't see that happening this time around for sure and I think they would want to try to slow the game down as much as possible... Defense is going to be a crucial factor as the US NT takes a lot of 3's in their games and if those 3's don't fall which isn't usually the case then they will be facing some problems...
Even will all this though the U.S is definitely the stronger team and should win this game with a 10-15 point margin imo...
Even will all this though the U.S is definitely the stronger team and should win this game with a 10-15 point margin imo...
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durden_tyler2
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You're only saying that so you can pad up your lead against us mere mortals in the Prediction Game! Well, you're wrong because US is going to win by exactly 18 points!
(Cheering for Argentina still though.)
Jokinen2
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I really don´t see Argentina winning tomorrow, this USA has to much talent they can outscore you in a blink of a eye. The only way would be if USA is subpar and if Argentina slows the pace of the game (Prigioni would be key there) and is totally intense and focused for 40 min. But USA is right there, so close to their goal, i think they are going to be very focused right from the start.
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durden_tyler2
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That goes without saying really. Play them physical to throw them off their game. Well try to anyway. Frustrate them. Maybe punch a nut or something, just (try to) do everything that will make it uncomfortable for the Americans.
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Federoy2
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So if you can't beat them, play dirty? Good to see you're supporting proper sportsmanship.
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durden_tyler2
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So if you can't beat them, play dirty? Good to see you're supporting proper sportsmanship.
Not Batum-dirty, i was half-kidding on the nut job suggestion. Not even Love-dirty-- like stepping on Scola's face or something.
But yes, i am serious to have a chance at the Americans you have to play real physical and to an extent dirty-- what's allowed and what doesn't get caught by the refs anyway.
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JGX2
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Ginobili says that Argentina has a 5 or 10% chance of winning, the same numbers he gave before the semi in Beijing. That's more optimistic than the last time a Julio Lamas-coached Argentina played the US in an important semifinal:
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/boston/...o+common+in+international+events&pqatl=google
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/boston/...o+common+in+international+events&pqatl=google
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Picek2
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just in order to see you humiliated. God i hope that "once in 20" is today..
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Wayne White2
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The thing is even if Argentina plays basicly a perfect games, great shot selection, timely passes, great defense, that all would just keep the game close until Lebron, or Kobe, KD, or Melo just takes over for the USA NT and closes the game out for them. One of the biggest reasons the US team is almost unbeatable is because they have so many options late in a game if it's close they can just turn on a switch and close it out for them Like Lebron did against Lith, or Kobe against Aussi's even though the game was over already. USA will win tomorrows game, I am hoping to see a competitive game but doubt it. You can try to grind it out on the inside but with the speed and athelticsim the US has they can wear down the other team's big man in a grind. I expect Argentina to put up the biggest challenge to the U.S. in todays game because they have already played twice, they know what the U.S. likes to do better than most teams because they have faced it and seen it twice.
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bobo812
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^^ Correct. In order to beat this US team everything literally needs to be perfect. Ppl here mentioning playing US aggresively on D has shown not to win games. US will get to the FT line, and convert. US always has more gas in the tank at the end of the game, while their opponents look done. I just wish this team would show us what they can do when they play to their potential and give us non-stop hustle. Wish it would happen today.
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madmax2
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worst lithuanian NT in years managed to go toe to toe with "untouchable" USA team...
So it would be only logical to assume that superior squads like Argentina can at least repeat it too, correct? USA are playing fool's gold offense in this tournament - basing all of their offense on long range jumpers and fastbreak points (which they are very good at creating, but still). I refuse to believe that such style can work every single day, especially against good defensive and disciplined teams like Argentina or Russia. I expect a close game today and I wouldn't bet my house on the winner in this matchup either...
So it would be only logical to assume that superior squads like Argentina can at least repeat it too, correct? USA are playing fool's gold offense in this tournament - basing all of their offense on long range jumpers and fastbreak points (which they are very good at creating, but still). I refuse to believe that such style can work every single day, especially against good defensive and disciplined teams like Argentina or Russia. I expect a close game today and I wouldn't bet my house on the winner in this matchup either...
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Jon_Koncak2
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Funny how group stages matches mean nothin for other teams but if team Usa struggles in a single quarter let alone in a whole game it's suddenly a sign of weakness.And why are you using the lithuania game since Argentina and Usa faced each other and it was a massacre(yes a massacre,i dont care if they were close for a half,a game lasts 40 minutes).Anyway Usa takes this comfortably and we all know it.No comments about a team scoring 118 ppg on 59% FG playing fools gold on offense.Just another pearl of wisdom of yours.
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Raze Lupin2
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Wayne White and bobo81: The weird thing is about this team is that USA's athletcism is not the deciding factor in the winning games. Sure there are athletic offensive plays from time to time. The defense is athletic but giving up 93 pts over the past 3 games. The USA is simply out shooting its opponents. Especially from 3pt range. Its crazy! Forget about high flying dunks. USA is just bombing on them. I don't see how a team will guard against that without giving up the drive.
worst lithuanian NT in years managed to go toe to toe with "untouchable" USA team...
Madmax you are not wrong. USA is very beatable. Lietuva showed this. I tend to agree with you. I expect a close grind out type of game...mostly. Much of what you say is true. 3pts and transition baskets alone "normally" should not win a tournament. Here is my question for you. Do you think its possible that Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook and Kobe Bryant will all have a bad shooting night?? That is not mentioning Chris paul and Deron Williams. Do you believe that all the players will play badly tonight against Argentina?
Kevin Durant is shooting 61% from 3pt during this tournament. Remeber world cup in Istanbul, Turkey? I would be surprised if USA shooting dried up this game.