[SemiFinals] Spain - Australia
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paspalj2
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Wow, the jealousy towards Spain is strong I see.
After a long time where they where admittedly losers, Spain produced an amazing generation of players that made it to the top3 in almost every competition for the past (almost) 20 years. This is an incredible achievement! You don’t get to that point by flopping or getting help from the refs.
As a Greek, I remember the game in 2007. That really hurts because I do believe that the refs were terrible but I also need to remember the game in 2006 where we lost by 20, in the biggest game of our time, against a team without their leader and best player.
Also, the comment about “naturalizing” players is not correct. Children of immigrants that grow up in Spain, have as much right to be in the Spanish national team as any Spaniard. I put the word “naturalizing” in quotes because I don’t believe it is the case with these kids. We also had a great kid born to immigrant parents and we only started to show some respect when the NBA called.
By the way, actually Mr. Chacho calls out the flopping of Real Madrid players. Just saying.
After a long time where they where admittedly losers, Spain produced an amazing generation of players that made it to the top3 in almost every competition for the past (almost) 20 years. This is an incredible achievement! You don’t get to that point by flopping or getting help from the refs.
As a Greek, I remember the game in 2007. That really hurts because I do believe that the refs were terrible but I also need to remember the game in 2006 where we lost by 20, in the biggest game of our time, against a team without their leader and best player.
Also, the comment about “naturalizing” players is not correct. Children of immigrants that grow up in Spain, have as much right to be in the Spanish national team as any Spaniard. I put the word “naturalizing” in quotes because I don’t believe it is the case with these kids. We also had a great kid born to immigrant parents and we only started to show some respect when the NBA called.
By the way, actually Mr. Chacho calls out the flopping of Real Madrid players. Just saying.
Deschain2
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Basically, your coach was disqualified in the first quarter, and there were many questionable calls for us. I remember Kutluay shooting like 5 FTs in a row. I think he scored 35 that game.
The EC was in Turkey and we would have been eliminated had we not won that game.
I found some footage in Turkish: https://youtu.be/wjZds6yuIJ0?t=617
Katastroika2
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If Spaniards are insulted for flopping I would like to know what people say about Scoa in this tournament...Oscar role.
Mr Chacho2
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Bogut asking ironically where are FIBA's headquarters. Man, there are in Switzerland.
Euroleague's headquarters are in Spain. And Andrew, FIBA and Euroleague are not the same (in fact, both have a very bad relationship).
Euroleague's headquarters are in Spain. And Andrew, FIBA and Euroleague are not the same (in fact, both have a very bad relationship).
Darrell Armstrong2
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Bogut's reaction is childish and he should stop being a sore loser. They would have won if they had knocked down their free throws. It's particularly petty to focus on a single bad call which wasn't his way when immediately after they got a phantom call. The fact that he should have received a technical foul for his gesture also escapes him. I'm pretty sure he'll be fined for this.
Straight forward2
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For the first time Marc truly dominated FIBA. What great story Gasols brothers are for the Spain.
eurorefsarecheats2
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bogut had every right to question here, was 100% not a foul and that ref was on the euro payroll. I liked the Lithuanian coach calling it out against the french as well he was right what he was saying
achinet2
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If this is your point. What have you to say about that 3 point by Marc that referes take as 2 points because they say that Claver touch the ball. You can see that he did not touch the ball, plus a Tecnical fault to Scariolo because the protest of that action. (2 points less because that, you will not reach first OT). Second, what about that call on Mills when he was between Mar and Rudy. They did not move and the call was taken. What about that fault on Mills when he impact with Claver who jump vertically. Come on, you only see what you want.
Well here you have one... I don't like any flooping, including when our players do it. I really don't like Rudy because of this.
On the other hand being almost 50 years old I consider the Greek and Yugoslavian teams of old to be the true masters of flopping. I really cry of joy when you do complain about it, this is Karma on my mind.
On the other hand being almost 50 years old I consider the Greek and Yugoslavian teams of old to be the true masters of flopping. I really cry of joy when you do complain about it, this is Karma on my mind.
maybe you haven't paid all three refs but just two
in all my years here, and I have been coming to interbasket for more then a decade, I have never seen a comment from a spanish user in which he would condemn a spanish player for flopping or bitching to refs on the floor.
whether it is an NT game or spanish club game.
just curious, do you really don't see all the flopping of your players or you see it but you are just fine with it?
you know, I'm a fan and I can bitch as much as I want and you will come here and say I'm not right about it. and that's fine.
but at the same time when your player bitches to the refs on the floor you don't say anything?
you are fine with that or you are simply not objective about it?
Everybody can argue on fouls. But as you said a 3 pointer is 3 points, not 2. This is undeniable that they gave one point less to Spain. But Bogut and the crying posters here will never admit it.