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Darrell Armstrong2
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I honestly look forward to Australia breaking the curse once and for all. They have gone 0-9 in the medal round. Totally cheering for them to get their first bronze this Sunday.
I honestly look forward to Australia breaking the curse once and for all. They have gone 0-9 in the medal round. Totally cheering for them to get their first bronze this Sunday.
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Sykes2
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Now i am 53, when i was younger and we has to face Yugoslavia ir USSR, we knew it was 90 percent of losing possibilities, and nobody talks about flopping or referees favour.
Please try to lose with dignity and sportmanlike as we did over the last century.
Please try to lose with dignity and sportmanlike as we did over the last century.
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soulis792
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What a game guys today!! Congratulations to both teams, a credit more to Spain!
Boomers was the best team of the World Cup and the only team that made the life really hard for Spain. Clever decision from coach Scariolo to change to a match-up zone in the finale. Great game from Marc, clutch play from Llull in overtime. Spain is a TEAM, with a rare mentality and leaders in FIBA basketball history. This final (or the title) could be the capping stone for this team, that almost for 20 years rules basketball.
On the other hand Boomers were excellent, they lost today in details ( a loose ball, a lay-up, a missed free throw). They deserve the credit. Their continuity as a team their desire to represent their country is unique. Maybe next year!
P.S. In Gasols' era(2001-20019) Spain has lost in brackets only in eight games. Excluding finals, USA beat them twice (2004, 2016), Germany twice (2002,2005), France twice (2013,2014) and once Slovenia (2017) and Serbia (2010). Besides 2014 quarterfinal and 2017 semifinal all the other games were close, some of them decided by buzzer beaters.
Boomers was the best team of the World Cup and the only team that made the life really hard for Spain. Clever decision from coach Scariolo to change to a match-up zone in the finale. Great game from Marc, clutch play from Llull in overtime. Spain is a TEAM, with a rare mentality and leaders in FIBA basketball history. This final (or the title) could be the capping stone for this team, that almost for 20 years rules basketball.
On the other hand Boomers were excellent, they lost today in details ( a loose ball, a lay-up, a missed free throw). They deserve the credit. Their continuity as a team their desire to represent their country is unique. Maybe next year!
P.S. In Gasols' era(2001-20019) Spain has lost in brackets only in eight games. Excluding finals, USA beat them twice (2004, 2016), Germany twice (2002,2005), France twice (2013,2014) and once Slovenia (2017) and Serbia (2010). Besides 2014 quarterfinal and 2017 semifinal all the other games were close, some of them decided by buzzer beaters.
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Levenspiel2
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Hi, I apologize for poking, seriously, but what did you think about after the Turkey - Spain game in 2001?
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GeKo_932
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Your tears are delicious.
I'm sorry for Greece if the new generations are as mediocre as you
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Bruno Díaz es Batman2
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usagre2
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Silver medals are great especially in past tournaments where a powerhouse USA team is almost guaranteed the Gold.
Different story here, if I am Spain it’s Gold Medal or bust since these opportunities are extremely rare.
The Silver Medal in this tournament unless it’s Argentina honestly shouldn’t really be celebrated by either France or Spain considering how things played out.
Different story here, if I am Spain it’s Gold Medal or bust since these opportunities are extremely rare.
The Silver Medal in this tournament unless it’s Argentina honestly shouldn’t really be celebrated by either France or Spain considering how things played out.
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Mr Chacho2
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We won a World Cup final with all spaniards, and without Pau Gasol. +23 on that game.
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Darrell Armstrong2
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I don't remember clearly since that was so long ago, but, maybe Greece was the other team on that final?
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Katastroika2
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I don't think that Teo would have made the difference but the veteran trainer surely would, so yes. Of course. Even that's not even close to the point that I was referring to. Maybe you should read it again and try to understand what I wrote before going nuts.
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HeinrichMohr2
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Just sit back and enjoy. Imagine their angry faces while bubbling white foam and messing up their keyboards.
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Deschain2
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That was a shameful game. They destroyed us in 2002 for that.
As far as I remember, in 2009 there were several "critical" no-calls against Spain.
They could've been eliminated due to the Slovenia game in the first phase. The game went to the OT with a basket by (I guess) Lorbek, which featured clear traveling.
In the game we defeated them, there was a clear foul on Llull by Erden in the final play.
There aren't many games in the last 20 years which saw Spain play a close one. Statistically, it could still be a coincidence to see more calls that might have favored Spain.
There's however a game which I'd call dirty, the Croatia-Spain game in 2005 which, in my opinion, should be attributed to the Serbs rather than the Spanish.
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About this flopping talk;
You definitely need to stay calm to flop. It's not like it's a choice. You should be able to think and be constantly vigilant to achieve that. Which requires you to have practiced not only your acting skills but your game.
Besides, we shouldn't forget that Spanoulis built a career on flopping. (Which shouldn't be a problem to anyone.)
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fasoulaki2
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Exactly flopping is an art. An art which Spain (and Spainoullis) has really elaborated to prefection. You have to give them credits for this. The victory is well deserved.
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madmax2
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Respect to Bogut for telling these FIBA morons how it really is Maybe if more influential players speak up loud and proud, FIBA will finally be forced to clean up it's act - shameful money grubbing expertise needs to be exposed!
Maybe if more influential players speak up loud and proud, FIBA will finally be forced to clean up it's act - shameful money grubbing expertise needs to be exposed!
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saras2
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[deleted.] - Levenspiel
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fasoulaki2
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There is an interesting comment from another greek looser former center Tsartsaris: "Spain must be the best team in the world the last 15 years. Two amazing generations of players which play fast and beautiful basketball."
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Kwijibo2
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WHat happened in 2001? I was rly young and didnt see that tournament
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achinet2
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"Cant produce their own". Wow man have you seen the U20, u18 and U16 theese years ago and this year? And in women too. In man this year two golds and one silver. Two mpv and 5 in all team.
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Sykes2
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As far as I remember, it was a close game till last minute, between us and a team that made its first appearance in international basketball, sorry i dont want to sound arrogant, but until that day, Turkey was completely unknown , and if Turkey lost that match it will be elimination to the organizers.
From that day to date, Turkey has become a headache for Spain with a lot of matches lost by our team.
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Levenspiel2
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it was a battle of shooters, between Herreros and Kutluay. You are right that we had no presence until then (but we were up & coming, lost to France in quarters in the last shot in 1999), but the point I was trying to make was different: The Spanish side protested heavily about the refereeing all game long, I still can vividly remember coach (J. Imbroda) running to the refs and shaking his pockets inside out
. He possibly had justified reasons to do so (I can't remember details to be honest, but there were some questionable decisions). I was just wondering if you may have felt differently about losing gracefully when you're on the other side of "the ref impact".cheers!